The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Visible contents as of 20 Feb 2012 20:33 UTC-06:00 (148 KB) Page 1 of 3 - From 0 to 51253 - Newest posts at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER cleared the room 7 hours ago AKTATTER: Feb.20, 2012 afternoon session regular class AKTATTER: welcome all Char joined the chat 7 hours ago picotsnkeys: Hi Char Char: Hi Georgia and every one picotsnkeys: brb still gathering myself joana joined the chat 7 hours ago Judy joined the chat 6 hours ago joana: ola Aktatter Judy: hello, now to make some tea AKTATTER: ola Joana joana: ola picotsnkeys AKTATTER: hey Char, JUdy, Gina GinaS joined the chat 6 hours ago joana: ola Judy e GinaS Aurora joined the chat 6 hours ago Patricia joined the chat 6 hours ago GinaS: hi georgia, char, judy, ola joana :) Aurora: hello ladies. Finally I have my pc back and working Aurora: Hello Georgia, Gina, Mel, AKTATTER: that is great news Aurora I know how frustrating it is AKTATTER: welcome Patricia Patricia: hi GinaS: hola aurora :) muy bueno :) Aurora: Patricia, Judy, Joanna Aurora: yeap. computers happen :)) GinaS: melanie GinaS: hi :) you're our teacher today huh? GinaS: well guest teacher GinaS: or whatever you call it GinaS: oh hi patricia too Aurora: waooo Mel as teacher that´s great Patricia: hello GinaS: aurora, I sure have my share of comPUTER ISSUES! GinaS: my keyboard does not keep up with my typing AKTATTER: have you all seen row 5 of nancy Tracy's doily from the newsletter? AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/files/2012_02_doily5.pdf Aurora: I know Gina :) I was worried of the apps i was developing but everything is ok GinaS: backup often and to multiple places! joana: k Patricia: nancy's is an unusual doily GinaS: oh that is beautiful Aurora: exactly. Now I have to mentally recover from a gasp of 10 days Aurora: It´s an incredible pattern. Nancy is a wonderful designer GinaS: como você está hoje joana? AKTATTER: anyone have a question today? Aurora: I have one: How are you? :D GinaS: como você está hoje joana? GinaS: como sempre, é bom vê-lo :) picotsnkeys: back AKTATTER: Well, I got a shot i nmy knee this morning but I did not cry which is a great improvement for me. :) GinaS: wb melanie GinaS: awwwww georgia :( Aurora: ohhh Poor little Georgia AKTATTER: otherwise all is well I felt so good this weekend I went shopping and came home with blouses off the clearnace rack , 4 of them for less than $20 whew! AKTATTER: no no, I am happy to get the shot, it takes away much of the pain picotsnkeys: I like things that take away pain Aurora: ohhh AKTATTER: it is rather like a lube and oil change for your car, it makes it better :) joana: Ola Char, Aurora, Patricia,Namorada picotsnkeys: especially if there's no side effects :D Aurora: :)) GinaS: ok georgia AKTATTER: i have a question.. does anyone have a copy or a link to that tatting pattern that used 45 shuttles??? Aurora: Hola Joanna, gusto que estes aqui GinaS: retail therapy is always helpful too Winkerbill joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: 45???? Winkerbill: hi everyone! joana: Tudo bem e voces AKTATTER: yes 45!! GinaS: hi stephanie :) picotsnkeys: or 4 to 5? AKTATTER: welcome Steph glad you are better picotsnkeys: Hi Steph GinaS: what? AKTATTER: forty-five Aurora: uhmmm nope, but it´s a good reasson to buy some shuttles Cynthia joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: I think is it a Karen Brovard pattern picotsnkeys: I'm glad you're checking in today, Steph. joana: Yo tambien, gracias Aurora AKTATTER: no can find in the files Cynthia: Hi gang I made it Winkerbill: 45 shuttles??? Wow! Aurora: Hello Cynthia and Steph :) GinaS: omg GinaS: 45 picotsnkeys: Hi Cyn Patricia: wow!! GinaS: hi cynthia picotsnkeys: and anyone else I missed Aurora: Joana, portugues o castellano? AKTATTER: you can just use the ball with a rubber band for some of the threads I remember Aurora: español AKTATTER: welcome Cynthia Winkerbill: I'd like to have a look at THAT project....not sure I have enough shuttles to even think about STARTING it, but I'd like to see it, for sure! GinaS: what could possibly use 45 shuttles for? Judy: k joana: yo entendo los dos picotsnkeys: a very big....doily picotsnkeys: ?? Cynthia: good question Gina but I don't know at all Patricia: brb GinaS: joana speaks portuguese aurora Aurora: perfecto, si necesitas ayuda con el ingles, solo pregunta Winkerbill: a bedspread with 45 different colors Winkerbill: ;-) Cynthia: a bedspread?? blanket?? or???? joana: k Aurora: I see, thanks Gina Cynthia: I thought I was doing good to get 4 different colors on 4 shuttles! Aurora: :)) AKTATTER: I am trying to remember, I never got to work the pattern, wasn't in the class but I saw the set up of 45 shuttles Winkerbill: hmm....I can't remember if I've used 4 at a time or not. GinaS: como você está hoje joana? Winkerbill: I know I've used 3 at one time.... AKTATTER: Row 5 of nancy TRacy's doily just came in AKTATTER http://www.be-stitched.com/files/2012_02_doily5.pdf row 5 http://www.be-stitched.com/images/2012_02_doily5_full_visual.gif Patricia: b Aurora: That is one of those increible things that need to be linked GinaS: como sempre, é bom vê-lo :) picotsnkeys: I used 4 with Martha Ess heart...the two in one heart Winkerbill: That's a very pretty doily. picotsnkeys: I like the open spaces Winkerbill: I like the effect of the 2 colors plus open spaces on it. Aurora: I liked the mistery doily pattern that Georgia gave us Dagmar joined the chat 6 hours ago Dagmar: Hi to all Winkerbill: hi Dagmar Aurora: Holla Dagmar, gusto en verte Aurora: Hello Sharren. It´s a pleasure to meet you :) GinaS: ola dagmar Winkerbill: hi SHarren AKTATTER Well it is easy enough to use 12 colors / 12 shuttles Remember http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/1896/1896.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/1896/rainbow.jpg picotsnkeys: Hi Dagmar! picotsnkeys: and Sharren joana joined the chat 6 hours ago Dagmar: Joana, Aurora fala espanhol. Se precisar fale com ela também joana: k GinaS: como você está hoje? SharrenM joined the chat 6 hours ago joana: ok GinaS: hi sharren SharrenM: Hi everybody! joana: ola Dagmar e C ynthia SharrenM: Hi everybody! Gotta love these Monday holidays!! Winkerbill: And here I have a hard time finding TWO empty shuttles when I want to start something new. picotsnkeys: I had lots of fun making a bookmark in the school colors while "babysitting" in band camp Aurora: Hello Sharren :) Dagmar: tudo bem Gina. Alegre por estar aqui de novo GinaS: no kidding stephanie joana: Ola Sharren picotsnkeys: Yes, Sharren....Monday holidays are grand! AKTATTER Kateryna Levchenko's work in copper http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430633_190458444393310_100002874689237_263801_507846762_n.jpg Aurora: That remembers me I dont have free shuttles Winkerbill: Can't help thinking about 45 shuttles, though....that would add a lot of weight to whatever you are tatting, just the weight of the shuttles....plus the thread on them.... SharrenM: WOW...who's working with 45 shuttles at once?? Aurora: I think I thave 20, moreless, 45 is a big number AKTATTER: http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=190458261059995&set=oa.10150584331036305&type=1&ref=nf Winkerbill: ooh, isn't THAT pretty! Cynthia: not me Sharren! GinaS: Estou feliz que você está aqui também! AKTATTER: Hello Sharren AKTATTER: and Patty smark69106 joined the chat 6 hours ago Cynthia: Tatting with wire can be fun but exasperating too Aurora: Evrybody is happy today. I´m happy too after recovering from a huge crash AKTATTER: I am looking for a pattern that used 45 shuttles, I keep thinking it was Karen Bovard, and they were laid out on a pillow I think joana: k Winkerbill: I know I SHOULD have at least 20....I keep buying more....but I have no idea where they go.... Winkerbill: Never can find one when I need an empty one. Dagmar: Acidente Aurora? GinaS: I have not tried tatting with wire picotsnkeys: lol me too Steph Winkerbill: I think maybe I forget and give them to new tatters when i teach them.... Aurora: Si, Dagmar, un accidente de computador :)) AKTATTER: sampels from class in copper wire http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html picotsnkeys: tatting with wire is on my "to-learn" list for this year Dagmar: Ainda bem. Você me assustou Patricia: I have over 40 bobbins for my boye shuttles....and as of this morning no empty ones....been emptying bobbins this morning with flowers and butterflies Aurora: :)) Asi estaba yo, ASUSTADA, tenia mucho trabajo pendiento por desarrollar joana: ja vi que não é so comigo que acontece esses acidentes... picotsnkeys: question for those using bobbin shuttles: How to keep the bobbins from unwinding when they are not in the shuttles? Dagmar: Acidentes de computador são frequentes Joana Aurora: I have those bobins shuttles, but dont like them very much, rather use the others AKTATTER: there is a gadget you put on it AKTATTER: bobbin buddy??? Winkerbill: Melanie there are little plastic clips you can put on the bobbins to keep them from unwinding picotsnkeys: ah... thank you Aurora: No, Joana, no solo a ti, a todos nos pasa AKTATTER: http://www.clotilde.com/detail.html?prod_id=236 picotsnkeys: found in the sewing notions aisle? joana: o meu está até hoje tenta do ser recuperado Aurora: Good question Mel, I have the same trouble Winkerbill: Or - I have a friend who keeps them in a little sewing bobbin box. Winkerbill: hmmm...I've never seen the clips anywhere for sale, just saw someone who used them.... Dagmar: Melanie, I put in a plastic bag with a piece of tape on the wire picotsnkeys: my Mom won't give up her sewing box and I haven't seen another like it at the store Patricia: Mine fit into something called a bobbinsaver....soft plastic, it is round but made of a "u" shape that holds the bobbin Phyllis joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: Hi Phyllis Winkerbill: oh, that web site Georgia just gave us - that is what they look like - "bobbin buddies' they are called. Phyllis: Hello all. Work simmered down so I am now able to attend again! Aurora: that clip is expensive Dagmar: hi Phyllis Cynthia: http://www.sewunique.com/bb.htm is a link for them. I have some Winkerbill: The little funny pink thing is what they look like. Yeah, they are expensive. picotsnkeys: mmmm I think I would rather just buy shuttles :) Aurora: :)) I thought the same Winkerbill: If you use prescription nasal sprays, there is often a little clip-shaped thing on the top of the bottle that snaps off when you open it....keeps it from spraying until someone buys it. Cynthia: I got mine at Tat Days and not that bad a price as I remember it...no shipping tho,,,, Dagmar: Joana elas estão falando sobre um clip para prender a linha quando se usa navete com bobina Patricia: an example of mine--holds more than 30 bobbins http://www.allthreads.com/BobbinSaver.aspx Judy: k Aurora: Mejor comprar navetas sin bobinas Winkerbill: I've been told that litlte clip thingie off the prescription nasal sprays works just as well. picotsnkeys: I made a New Years resolution this year to decrease the number of perscriptions I fill lol Winkerbill: I prefer a post shuttle, so never bought anything like that.... AKTATTER: welcome Phyllis Cynthia: a pony tail elastic might work too.... picotsnkeys: I'd rather fill shuttles lol Cynthia: LOL I prefer to unfill them by tatting than to sit and fill them picotsnkeys: lol SharrenM: the little clip thingie off the nasal spray DOES work just as well as a Bobbin Buddy - I have one and it's just as good! Aurora: Mel, we always have to wind shuttles or bobins Winkerbill: I try to use natural, nutritional 'cures' whenever possible. joana: Ah! eu enho uma navetta assim com bobina e agulha de croche na ponta é otima Winkerbill: ;-) Judy: I'm having trouble imagining how this would work. Would you have the work on a pillow like bobbn lace, with the shuttles around the edge? Cynthia: Wink some of them have the thingy too...especially the sprays rather than the drops...I got a couple from zinc spray if I remember correctly picotsnkeys: very fiddly Dagmar: Sim Joana, essas navetes são boas. é imprtante ter bobinas extras, porque cabe pouca linha nelas Aurora: Anyway, I always lose those little things. Cynthia: so do I... AKTATTER: I think it looked just like that Judy picotsnkeys: I try to only have one very fiddly project going at a time.....cuts down on the frustration and the family loves me more :) joana: mas aqui ainda não vi dessas bobinas para comprar Winkerbill: I love tiny tins and stuff like that....I stick my little bitty tatting goodies into a tiny tin....and they're all together....then I can't remember where I put the tin. Winkerbill: ;-) Aurora: Gratefully my head is fit to my body, I can not lose it :)) Dagmar: não tem. Só importando GinaS: oh I got almost all of my paper books cataloged as of yesterday! picotsnkeys: lolol Aurora....I'm glad my head is attached to me today also Judy: New tin shape! Altoids valentines day tin heart shaped Aurora: I do love them too, and crytals but wahat can i say, I use to lose them picotsnkeys: wow gina! Winkerbill: ooh, I might have to buy one of those, just for the heart-shape tin! Patricia: where did you see the heart shape at? Dagmar: Nosso Brasil está a mil anos luz atrasado em termo de frivolite GinaS: over 400 of them Esther joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: There is also a page I am looking for that that shows 3 - 4 line of pearl that in progress,with middle shuttles working ds on both left and right hand thread so tatting as well as wrapping, image stuck in my mind but not the pattern Esther: Hello joana: k AKTATTER: welcome Esther Judy: drug store candy section day after V day, on sale! picotsnkeys: Hi Esther Dagmar: Hi Esther Cynthia: some stores carried them but not all I think it was a intro item to see if it would sell in some markets... joana: ola esther Winkerbill: Wow, Georgia, that sounds challenging! picotsnkeys: Ak - from Mark's site? Cynthia: share the link?? Judy: 400 bo0ks! of tatting? picotsnkeys: mmmmmmmmm GinaS: this is just the tatting books http://www.librarything.com/catalog/gshillitani&tag=tatting Aurora: Dios! 400 bokks? GinaS: no 400 books on all kinds of things :) AKTATTER: I can't remember mel that is the problem, you know how you see something and remark hmm or oh and then after it sinks in you want to look again and absorb but you can't remeber wher it was.... old age I guess GinaS: 45 tatting books ;) picotsnkeys: lololol all the time AK picotsnkeys: and it extends to "hearing" a tune and not remembering where it's from lol SharrenM: Can't be old age,, I joana: Oh! tradutor SharrenM: I've been doing that since I was a kid! picotsnkeys: was this it? http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/pearltatting.html Judy: Gina, is Library Thing a cloud file? Cynthia: LOL sure it can't be old age...I've been doing that for 40 years.... Aurora: Mel :)) Dagmar: problemas om o tradutor Joana? picotsnkeys: me too Sharren Winkerbill: oh, yeah, and the tune plays over and over in your head and you haven't a CLUE what it is! picotsnkeys: and then you discover it's the violin part from a symphone that was playing in the grocery store lol Aurora: It´s always solved when you buy a new one AKTATTER: it is easy to accumulate 400 books on tattig if you collect the vintage ones as well as new one picotsnkeys: or the middle of a 4 seasons Winkerbill: right! Your mind must work the same way mine does Melanie AKTATTER: speaking on new books picotsnkeys: yep Judy: k Cynthia: yyyyyyeeeeeessssss......? picotsnkeys: new books......oh oh AKTATTER: Martha Ess just spotted the sale of an original copy of a Mlle Riego for over $500 USD picotsnkeys: *gasp* joana: Para variar... Winkerbill: I think I've had a violin concerto - just a few phrases of it - stuck in my head for a month or two. Can't figure out when I heard it, where I heard it, or what, exactly, it is. Judy: serious collector !! Aurora: OMG Cynthia: too rich for me.... Patricia: $499 over my budget:( AKTATTER: please please, befoer you buy a vintage book, pleas check the class archive and the antique pattern library for free copies. Aurora: :)) Char: k GinaS: well i only have 45 georgia AKTATTER: that is exactly the problem Steph!! picotsnkeys: unless this copy has provenance....that's too much! Cynthia: make that $499.99 over mine....LOL AKTATTER: welcome Jane GinaS: and that's not counting all the pdf's and ebooks I have, that's paper books picotsnkeys: Hi Jane! Winkerbill: hi Jane! Judy: yes, a collector, not a tatter. $499 that could go to my thread stash AKTATTER: ok let's get started lplease sign in JaneEb joined the chat 6 hours ago GinaS: Gina Shillitani gshillitani@yahoo.com Tampa, FL USA, shuttle JaneEb: Whooops, I've been spotted!!!! picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi aka picotsnkeys @yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA mostly shuttle Dagmar: Eu também não estou acompanhando muito , mas estão falando sobre preço de livro e trabalho com muitas navetes GinaS: hi jane Patricia: Patricia Lyn Cobb patricialyn@sbcglobal.ne?t Muskogee OK USA shuttle AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM Winkerbill: Stephanie W in western North Carolina, USA JaneEb: Hi folks SharrenM: Sharren Morgan, greenwoodtatter@yahoo.co?m, Greenwood SC, mostly shuttle Phyllis: Phyllis Schmidt, temp20003 at yahoo.com, Dallas, GA, USA, shuttle tatting Char: Char,chamb74@hotmail.com? Post Falls ID USA Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com or tattingaway@gmail.com shuttle tatter joana: ok,Dagmar, gracias Judy: Judy Anderson, anderson-judith@att.net,? Los Angeles CA area, mostly needle smark69106: Pat Markley, Medical Lake WA USA shuttle tatting Esther: fliglman@bezeqint.net, Israel, Shuttle Dagmar: Dagmar d4pezzuto@gmail.com Campinas Brasil shutlle and needle JaneEb: Jane Eborall Stratford upon Avon, UK. lovetotat@gmail.com OR shout loudly!!! AKTATTER: CAN'T MISS YOU JANE NO MATTER HOW QUIET YOU ARE JaneEb: Cheeky moo, Georgia!! joana: jcelissancho30@hotmail.c?om--Bauru Brasil, shuttle AKTATTER: OK BEFORE WE START Cynthia: hugs to everyone GinaS: towns in england have such poetic names AKTATTER: http://umintsuru.blogspot.com/ Aurora: Aurora, arigamor at hotmail.com, shuttle Valencia-Spain AKTATTER: PLEASE ENJOY THE WONDERFUL SCHARF STYLE LEAVES Aurora: Hello Jane : I´ve not seen you before joana: k AKTATTER: AND THE CLASSIC ROSETTES JaneEb: I pop in, Aurora and then wander off to another tab and forget what I'm doing - old age, you know!!! picotsnkeys: pretty! tattnmary joined the chat 6 hours ago tattnmary: Hi all AKTATTER: ON THE ROSETTES PLEASE LOOK CLOSELY AT TEH JOINS Cynthia: or just a braincell with wanderlust.... AKTATTER: WELCOME mARY Aurora: :)) Judy: Gina, you put the palmetto days disks in there? Winkerbill: I discovered that 'tat along' thing a few days ago - sort of by accident. tattnmary: AK the snow last night closed roads out of Laramie joana: Aurora, tu és de Valencia? Aurora: Hello MAry Winkerbill: Made my first Scharf style leaf over the weekend. tattnmary: so just got back from lunch with daughter AKTATTER: THE SHUTTLE LOCK JOINS WERE SO GOOD , 90DE GREE ANGLES Dagmar: hi Mary AKTATTER: THAT IS GREAT STEPH THEYARE SO ATTARCTIVE Aurora: No, Joanna, soy de Caracas, pero vivo en Valencia-España picotsnkeys: great skill on shuttle lock join! AKTATTER: AND PLEASE SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE TO SEE THE DIAGRAM OF HOW TO DO THAT LEAF AKTATTER: VERY NICELY PRESENTED joana: Pues tengo una prima desde ahí. Aurora: En Valencia? GinaS: no judy joana: Sí AKTATTER: hERE A HUNGARIAN TATTER USED GINA'S INTERLOCKING RINGS FOR A PATTERN http://csipke-csoda.blogspot.com/2012/02/21-motivum.html GinaS: those are just books, paper books Aurora: Ahh que bien, mira lo que es el mundo, chiquito AKTATTER: AND CHECK THE LAST PHOTO HERE http://csipke-csoda.blogspot.com/2012_01_01_archive.html joana: muy, muy pequeño Aurora: Gina what´s a paperbook? AKTATTER: AN eMMY lIEBERT PATTERNS BEING USED! Aurora: AK really? never mind AKTATTER: FOR THOSE WHO CAME IN LATER NANCY TRACY'S ROW 5 OF THE DOILY HAS BEEN POSTED AKTATTER http://www.be-stitched.com/files/2012_02_doily5.pdf row 5 http://www.be-stitched.com/images/2012_02_doily5_full_visual.gif Phyllis: k Judy: k Patricia: k AKTATTER: AND eLISDUSUD HAS A NEW PAGE http://www.pureloisirs.com/rubrique/broderie_r4/frivolites_a101/1 GinaS: a book you can pick up in your hand and read AKTATTER: CLICK THE PINK BOXES TO GE TO THE PATTENRS GinaS: the words are printed on paper Dagmar: d Aurora: ?? Gina, but you have them in a web site :) tattnmary joined the chat 6 hours ago Dagmar: d AKTATTER AND IF YOU KMISSED IT EARLIER THE COPPER WIRE JEWELRY http://a6.sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430633_190458444393310_100002874689237_263801_507846762_n.jpg Aurora: It´s really hard to work with wire AKTATTER: BUT THIS MAY KNOCK YOUR SOCKS OFF WO HOLD ON TIGHT AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/7m2tJ2ws0KuAD9yice0yp1kruubCsA55MuLDIizgaCvbfCKNBayAqdHQfUsrjOqH5sF1peUIdizYWkwsxBowr-mLZaq2zux4/HyperRingB.JPG?width=655&height=600 GinaS: why I say paper books is to distinguish them from electronic books or pdf's of books or kindle books, things like that Margaret joined the chat 6 hours ago Aurora: what a work! picotsnkeys: I love the look of 3D tatting! joana: k Aurora: ok, I understand you Gina tattnmary: tatted ruffles are awesome but not too hard to work picotsnkeys: just can't wrap my brain around it yet Margaret: Georgia sorry to interrupt but I have one question -- is this not a holiday in the United States? All our calendars say it is Presidents' Day GinaS: hi margaret AKTATTER: THAT IS BY PATTY DOWDON AND IS BASED ON HER HYPERBOLIC TATTING WHICH CLASS SHE IS TEACHING AT IOLI THIS YEAR Dagmar: hi Margaret Aurora: No, they´re not, but the plastic ring is AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/pattydhow2hyperbolictat.pdf tattnmary: Margaret yes today is president's day Margaret: hi, all Cynthia: it would be a fun class...but I can't go... joana: oi Margaret picotsnkeys: where is the IOLI this year? tattnmary: due to the birth of Lincoln and Washington in this month Margaret: really in a lot of work so can't stay just wondered about the holiday AKTATTER: YES THIS IS A HOLIDAY MARGARET (WELCOME Btw) AND WHAT BETTER WAY TO CELEBRATE THAT TO TAT? tattnmary: one on the12 and one of the 22 and I always get them miced up picotsnkeys: take care Margaret...stay warm and dry and healthy AKTATTER: http://www.internationaloldlacers.org/2012-conv.html mINNESOTA tattnmary: bye Margaret Winkerbill: hmm....wasn't it Lincoln on the 12th and Washington on the 22nd? Aurora: Bye Margaret be happy picotsnkeys: mmmmm Minnesota in the summer...... AKTATTER: WE HAVE ALL VOLUNTEERED TO TAT STARS FOR THE CONVENTION Margaret: Ontario is having a holiday too -- FAMILY DAY but I need to be cleaning -- haven't started yet and company is coming picotsnkeys: brb phone AKTATTER Hand-made lace stars for the 2012 IOLI Convention The convention committee is asking for hand-made lace stars for the convention. Specifications: Stars: 5 points Size: 2-3 inches in diameter Color: either white or silver Thread: size 20 thread or finer Lace technique: Any tattnmary: like I said, I always get them mixed up AKTATTER: OK LET'S START THE PATTERNS AKTATTER: FIRST UP IS AN EASY REVIEW Margaret: bye Winkerbill: bye Margaret Margaret left the chat 6 hours ago Phyllis: k GinaS joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: YOU RECALL I ALWASY ASK IF ANYONE HAS SENT IN A PATTERN THAT I HAVE NOT USED TO REMIND ME AND JUDITH FROM ZIMBABWE THOUGHT I HAS MISSED ONE. beckyS joined the chat 6 hours ago Judy: 12 is Lincoln. They choose a Monday between them, so it moves each year. GinaS joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: BUT WE HAD WORKED IT EARLIER, ANYWAY I PUT ALL THE INOF ON ONE PAGE AND REPOSTED IT AKTATTER: SO THIS IS FOR JUDITH tattnmary: Good Judy tattnmary: do you have the link AK? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/judithsmithcorner.pdf Aurora: good for Judith beckyS: k AKTATTER: AND NOTE THAT KATHY CLARK USED JUDITH'S PATTERN TO MAKE A NECKLACE PENDANY AKTATTER: PENDANY AKTATTER: PENDANT Dagmar: Joana, vai entrando nos links que a Georgia dá, que você acompanha mais ou menos o assunto joana: k AKTATTER: NEXT WE HAVE A PATTERN FROM lESLIE baILEY, JUST IN Winkerbill: Oh, good, I must have missed this one somehow. That would make a good pendant OR a good edging for a v-neck t-shirt tattnmary: so right Wink AKTATTER: IT IS THE EDGING AT THE TOP POSETD ON RUTH PERRY'S WEBSITE AKTATTER: LESLIE WANTED TO SHARE WITH US joana: é o que estou fazendo Cynthia: or to draw the eye up add the V,,,, AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE THERE AER STAR PATTERNS GinaS: the big picture and the little pictures don't look alike tattnmary: that page AK? AKTATTER: REMEMBER THAT STARS HAVE 5 POINT AND SNOWFLAKES HAVE 6 POINTS Judy: link? Patricia: k GinaS: how are the 3 small ones that are V shaped made? AKTATTER: http://tatting.files.wordpress.com/2012/02/camisole-edging1.pdf tattnmary: are we talking about the cormer for AK edging? Winkerbill: Gina it looks like they added another chain that joined to the middle picot Char: k Winkerbill: so instead of a dip, there is a chain that looks like a ring. AKTATTER: WHERE GINA? Aurora: . AKTATTER: YES MARY JUST SCROLL DOWN joana: k GinaS: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/judithsmithcorner.pdf tattnmary: thanks for Leslie's edging It is cool GinaS: yes the judith smith corner AKTATTER: AT THE POINT OF THE NECKLACE PIECE THERE IS AN ADDTIONAL RING Winkerbill: Wow, I can see all sorts of places to use Leslie's edging! AKTATTER: I BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Visible contents as of 20 Feb 2012 20:33 UTC-06:00 (148 KB) Page 2 of 3 - From 51223 to 102424 - Newest posts at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER: I BELIEVE EVERYTHING ELSE IS THE SAME picotsnkeys: I can see the corner piece as an inset to a linen top I have that ahem too low ;) AKTATTER: YES LESLIE' beckyS: k AKTATTER: EDING IS VERY NICE AND WITH THE 3 SPLIT RINGS IN A ROW IT HAS A LOT OF"GIVE" TO IT AKTATTER: WELCOME BECKY Dagmar: d GinaS: ok beckyS: thanks AKTATTER: OK NEXT IS A REVIEW OF THE gINA hEARRT BY mARY mAYNARD AKTATTER: HERE ARE THE HEART LINKS AND COME CARD'S TOO AKTATTER http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginaheartdiagram.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardcard1.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardcard2.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginabraid.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginaheart.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginaheart.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardarrows.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardcelticheartgina.jpg AKTATTER: MARY HAS ADDED AN ARROW YOU CAN ADD TO THE HEART TOO AKTATTER http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginaheartpattern.jpg picotsnkeys: the card links do not open for me tattnmary: I haven't had time to write the arrow pattern but if you want it, I can AKTATTER: MARY WANT US TO NOTE THAT THERE ARE THREE RINGS THAT POKE UP AKTATTER: THROUGH 3 UPPER RINGS TO GET THAT CELTIC LOOK TO IT GinaS: the three links after the pink heart do not work georgia AKTATTER: LET ME CHECK FOR A TYPO MEL Char: Card links don't open for me either Phyllis: nor I joana: k Cynthia: please do Mary I'd apprieciat it tattnmary: the 3 rings are TOR from a large SCMR tattnmary: okay watch for next week Cynthia: thank you AKTATTER: TRY NOW tattnmary: When I write that pattern you all get the story with it AKTATTER http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardcard1.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardcard2.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginabraid.jpg picotsnkeys: darn typos...can't be trained for love of money tattnmary: : ) or : ( Depending LOL Char: thanks that did it tattnmary: the cards come up nowAK picotsnkeys: ah! That works!!! Pretty and personalized!! AKTATTER THIS DIAGRAM DOES NOT MATCH THE REVISED HEART http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginaheartdiagram.jpg tattnmary: then there is a second smaller SCMR which is worked right next to the first one Patricia: k beckyS: k Judy: k tattnmary: the large SCMR TORs get folded up and pushed through the first 2 large R AKTATTER: IS THE SCMR NEW TO ANYONE? joana: k tattnmary: but it is a good diagram for the first part of the heart beckyS: i have to review it everytime i need it tattnmary: and is just right for the pink sample which is not Celtic AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SCMR.pdf Judy: really nice cards AKTATTER: ALSO STUDY JANE'S HINTS ON STARTING THE SCMR http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/StartSCMRNoKnot.pdf beckyS: thankds tattnmary: Becky, I remember what Randy Houck told me - hook the shuttle thread around your pinky and tat a chain AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE HEART? picotsnkeys: my pinky isn't that talented, I need a paperclip lol tattnmary: when you come to a ring, switch shuttles and make the ring, close and SS and resume the chain tattnmary: it is really not as complicated as we may try to make it beckyS: thanks Winkerbill: When I was learning to do the SCMR I had better success putting a large paper clip on the thread instead of hooking it around a finger. AKTATTER: OK THEN ON TO THE BUN HOLDER tattnmary: I wonder if any of you has considered front/back tatting here? Winkerbill: Now I just need to double-check to make sure everything still slides after every couple DSs. AKTATTER: FRONT/BACK TATTING SHOULD BE NATURAL TO ALL OF US BY NOW picotsnkeys: consider it often...use it on occassion tattnmary: bun holder RIGTH AKK Winkerbill: I use it all the time. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/melbunholder.pdf AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN IS SHARED WITH US BYOUR OWHN MELANIE CERVI! AKTATTER: MELANIE TAKE A BOW! tattnmary: Just remember this, when tatting the first SCMR front side tat because it is reversed and then the front side shows where it should AKTATTER: GOOD JOB ON THE PATTERN MEL picotsnkeys: *curtsy, curtsy* picotsnkeys: ty tattnmary: Yes Melanie would or could you call that a snood? picotsnkeys: good tip Mary picotsnkeys: I could, except fewer people know what I mean lol tattnmary: I crocheted on once AKTATTER: NJOW LONG AGO I HAD A MILD COMPLAINT THAT WORKING SO MANY VINTAGE PATTERNS JUST WASNT EXCITING ENOUGH! Dagmar: d tattnmary: it turned into quite a story picotsnkeys: and I've been told a snood isn't tight on the hair, more like a small scarf pinned in AKTATTER: BUT WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT MEL HAS DONE I THINK YOU WOULD CHANGE YOUR MIND tattnmary: WHO HAD THE NERVE AK? tattnmary: I agree beckyS: k AKTATTER: THE ORIGINAL PATTERN IS BY ANNE ORR 1940-ISH REPRINTED IN A DOVER PUBS BOOK "TATTING DOILIES AND EDGINGS" PG 7-8 AKTATTER: EDITED BY RITA WEISS AKTATTER: I BET NEARLY ALL OF US HAVE THIS INEXPENSVIE BOOK ON OUR SHELVES Winkerbill: I'll have to go look up the original pattern....I've got that book. ;-) picotsnkeys: Gina drew a diagram...which started my brain....which........;)? AKTATTER: A PORTION OF THE ORIGINAL PATTERN IS REPRODUCED ON THE LAST PAGE OF THE LESSON AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/melbunholder.pdf Dagmar: Joana, está acompanhando? AKTATTER: AND FOLLOWING THAT BLOACK AND WHITE PHOTO IS A COLOR PHOTO OD THE FIRST 4 ROWS DONE MY MEL EARLIER AKTATTER: THE DIAGRAM ON PG 7 OF THE LESSON IS WONDERFUL joana: só os sites, q vou abrindo Cynthia: I suspect some people think "doily" and you don't use that many of them anymore...not snood/bun cover... AKTATTER: I PARTICULARLY LIKED THA FACT THAT THE PATH TOCLIMB OUT WAS MARKED IN RED picotsnkeys: that started as a project for Sue's Design class AKTATTER: I HAVE ONE SUGGESTION, THOUGHT, TO MAKE THE DS COUNT NUMBERS A DIFFERENT COLOR TO SHOW UP MORE EASILY picotsnkeys: good thought AKTATTER: OK THE PATTERN HS 10 ROWS Dagmar: Georgia está falando agora sobre o tema de hoje. É um releitura de um trabalho muito antigo AKTATTER: LET'S LOOK AT PAGE 1 AND THE ABBREVIATIONS LIST FIRST joana: ok picotsnkeys: which didn't reproduce well..sorry AKTATTER: THAT IS A GREAT SHOT OF THE SNOOD IN COLOR Dagmar: Tem o diagrama na utima pagina do link que ela deu joana: ok, vou ver AKTATTER: THE LIST OF TATTING TERMS IS LONGER THAN MOST BUT THAT MAKES IT VERY HELPFUL TO THE NEW TATTER beckyS: k AKTATTER: BUT NOTE THAT THE SPACING IN THE BOX WAS OFF WHEN IT PRINTED FOR ME, PERHAPS FOR YOU ALSO? AKTATTER: EVERY PRINTER IS DIFFERENT Cynthia: or the rest of us too....I need a refresher on Larks Head Picot.... picotsnkeys: pesky margin errors.... AKTATTER: SO MP = MOCK PICOT AKTATTER: R = RING AKTATTER: s/cH SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: S/R SPIT RING AKTATTER: SH = SHUTTLE AKTATTER: SLT = SHOW L;ACE TRICK AKTATTER: SS = SWITCH SHUTTLES AKTATTER: TOR = THROWN OFF RING AKA FLOATING RING Dagmar: Joana vou traduzir mais ou menos para você as abreviatura - PICO FALSO Dagmar: ANEL Dagmar: ANEL DIVIDIDO picotsnkeys: I always have to drag out my directions for Lark's Head Picot Join picotsnkeys: brb for link AKTATTER: LHPJ = LARK'S HEAD PICOT JOIN Dagmar: CORDÃO INVERSO Dagmar: NAVETE AKTATTER: OK LOOK AT PHOT 2 HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/lhpj/lhpj.html tattnmary: I do to Picot and then I think why don't I remember that Dagmar: TOR - ANEL FLUTUANTE Dagmar: OLHE AGORA A FIGURA 2 AKTATTER: YOU BRING THE JOINGING THREAD THROUG THE PICOT AND BEND IT OVER SO IT LOOKS LIKE A LUGGAGE TAG LOOP AKTATTER: THE THE JOB IS TO GET THE SHUTTLE THROUGH EACH OF THOSE LOOPS AKTATTER: AND YOU REMOVE THE SLACK ONE SIDE AT A TIME joana: desse ultimo site? AKTATTER: SO THE PATTERN STARTS WITH A TRADTIONAL CENTER RING picotsnkeys: rather fiddly....and not something I'd use a lot :) Judy: Beads question AKTATTER: IN THE OLD DAYS WE WOULD TAT ONE RIG AND CUR AND TIE AND HIDE ENDS, Oh THE TEDIOSNESS OF IT ALL picotsnkeys: yes? beads? beckyS: k AKTATTER: BUT TO DAY WE KNOW SO MANY TRICKS TO PREVENT THAT Dagmar: entre nesse ultimo link. Ensina dar o no Phyllis: k Judy: It says ctm, but then row two, load beads? picotsnkeys: well....that's a good question picotsnkeys: I loaded beads as I did the CTM to start. Then realized I needed more and on the other shuttle, so I *gasp* cut and tie AKTATTER: IF TH EBEAD IS PLACE "OVER" THE PICOT AND NOT "ON" THE PICOT YOU DO NOT NEED TO WIND THEM WITH THE SHUTTLE THREAD picotsnkeys: true AKTATTER COMPARE HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasic.jpg picotsnkeys: all beads until row 5 are added at the join AKTATTER: JUST DECIDE WHERE THE BEADS AND GOING TO DETERMINE IF THEY SHOUL DBE WOUND UP WITH THE THREAD Judy: Linda Davies has a vid showing how to put the beads "over" the picot AKTATTER: GREAT JUDY LET'S FIND THAT LINK tattnmary: k Char: k joana: k Patricia: k beckyS: k Dagmar: nesse trabalho foi colocado contas. no original não havia AKTATTER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ELbqfybMqVU joana: ok tattnmary: Over the picot is when the bead is threaded on a crochet hook and pulled off onto the Picot right? AKTATTER: SO CENTER RING CLIMB OUT WITH MOCK PICOT INTO ROW 2 Dagmar: esse video mostra como colocar contas. marque e depois você assiste AKTATTER: ALTERNATING RING AND CHAIN AROUND AGAIN CLIMBIN OUT WITH SPLIT RING AND MOCK PICOT picotsnkeys: right Mary Judy: The key is making the picot the right size in the first step using the bead , then use a striver temporarily to hold it until a couple more stitches are made tattnmary: thanx P AKTATTER: ROW 2 IS REPEATING CLOVERLEAF, CHAIN WITH FLOATING RINGS Char: what is a striver? AKTATTER: BUT NO PATH TO CLIMB OUT IS MARKED picotsnkeys: for that Judy, I cheat by putting a paperclip to hold the bead on the first picot I make GinaS: so melanie do you know how many beads have to be loaded and on which shuttle total before we wind them? Judy: striver = fancy paper clip AKTATTER: ONE OCULD WORK UP TOTHE FIRST RING OF THE LAST CLOVER Char: Thank you AKTATTER: DO THE SPLIT CHAIN BACK TO THE FLOATING RING WHERE YOU ENTER ED THE ROW picotsnkeys: I didn't load beads until I cut and tie after row 4 AKTATTER: SPLIT CHAIN WRAPPING BACK AND THROWIN GOFF FLOATING RING joana: k AKTATTER: THEN TATTING THE RIGHT HAND RING OF THE CLOVER GinaS: striver is a long pin usually with a decorative top used to separate groups of bobbins on a bobbin lace pillow GinaS: think hat pin AKTATTER: AND MAKING THE CENTER LEAF OF THE CLOVER A SPLIT RING IWTH MOCK PICOT picotsnkeys: that works well AK tattnmary: sounds workable AK Char: prettier than a paperclip AKTATTER: OK ROW 3 IS LARGE RING CHAIN AND FLOATING RING AKTATTER: AND YOU CAN CLIMB OUT INTO ROW 4 Cynthia: more apt to stab you tho...LOL guess who did that...... SharrenM: Gotta go - hope to be back for the later class! Dagmar: Joana olhe a 2 fileira do diagrama, tem um trevo de aneis e dois aneis flutuantes GinaS: take care sharren joana: ok Cynthia: bye Sharren AKTATTER: ROW 4 IS AGAIN CLOVER AND CHAIN REPOEAT WITH CHAIN AND LFOATING RING AKTATTER: BUT NOTE THE BEAD PLACED ON THE BASE OF THE FLOATING RING picotsnkeys: the number of beads you use depends on how many repeats of the doily motif you want in each row. I used 12, so I had 24 beads in row 5 GinaS: what else could this pattern be used for? I don't have enough hair for a bun ;) Dagmar: a carreira 3 e com aneis grandes e pequenos flutuante. AKTATTER: ROW 5 AND 6 AND JUST RING AND CHAIN REPEATS tattnmary: you and me Gina picotsnkeys: a covering for an ornament ball Winkerbill: You could make a pretty little bag, Gina. Cynthia: how about a pretty purse or bag to hold your tatting thread picotsnkeys: or an egg for Easter tattnmary: but mine is pretty long there is just not much of it any more GinaS: mine is short AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE A LOOK AT TEH BACK OF THE SNOOD ON PG 4 Judy: Cyn, only needed for a couple of ds's, then removed. tattnmary: could the pattern be worked with larger thread and used maybe for a cap? joana: k Winkerbill: hmmm....that's a thought.... picotsnkeys: definately mary Winkerbill: I've seen books that showed tatting with knitting yarn.... AKTATTER: MIGNONETTE VERY TIGHT AND SMALL RINGS Cynthia: I know but I sure stuck myself using a pin...now I use a paperclip or safety pin...more fiddly to close/open but no stabs... beckyS: k Judy: Shades of my mom's hairnet joana: ok AKTATTER: ROW 9 IS A DECREASE ROW tattnmary: I was thinking to call it a beret sound more sophisticated AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR MEL? picotsnkeys: the photo coesn't show it well, but up until you tat around the elastic, there is not much descrease tattnmary: did I spell that right GinaS: it would make a pretty bag picotsnkeys: that allows more ease so you can get it around your ponytail/bun GinaS: I just don't have good luck lining things Winkerbill: I was thinking put a circle cut from a plastic lid in it....and use a ribbon to tie it around your wrist (loosely, please) and you could make a neat thread holder.... picotsnkeys: oooo I like that Wink GinaS: what is the circle from the plastic lid for? picotsnkeys: caution for those wanting to try with the quilting thread: rayon isn't fun Judy: Rubber bands and elastic have a short life span in polluted cities (NOX attacks the rubber) good to have the ribbon alternative. Cynthia: to give a base.... Winkerbill: (I'd probably just use it for my hair, though....one reason I've been so stubborn about not cutting it....) tattnmary: thank you Mel for all the work It sounds so workable AKTATTER: IF YOU LIKE SNOODS HERE'S MORE AKTATTER: http://chamstatting.blogspot.com/2006/07/blue-snood.html Winkerbill: Gina the circle would just give it more ....something 'firm' for your ball of thread to sit on. tattnmary: ooh I like the blue one too AK Dagmar: Joana, estão falando sobre modificar o trabalho e fazr uma bolsa ou até um chapeu GinaS: put the thread *in* it like a bag, or string the thread onto the ribbon and the thread sits *on* it like those wrist ball holders? AKTATTER http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v633/KatrinaStonoff/snood.jpg picotsnkeys: exactly Gina Cynthia: right Gina GinaS: which one? LOL picotsnkeys: That's pretty too joana: ok, ou também uma touca para nene Cynthia: Both Gina.... AKTATTER: http://www.couturecostume.com/item577.html GinaS: oh.... AKTATTER: http://www.couturecostume.com/item291.html tattnmary: AK Have to run see you all tonight I plan to be here then too Winkerbill: Whatever worked best Gina. I've thought about making a bag, but never got around to it....yet. tattnmary: TTFN picotsnkeys: either way, you have to figure out which feels more natural to your wrist :-S picotsnkeys: bye mary GinaS: I have one of those wrist ball holders ....somewhere picotsnkeys: thanks for your tips GinaS: but its meant for yarn, not thread AKTATTER: AND sTEPH'S SNOOD http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/emmyliebertsnood.html AKTATTER: BYE MARY GinaS: the holder part is too big for thread balls Dagmar: bye Mary Judy: OOh the burgundy is wonderful AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS TO MELAINE FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US AS WELL AS ALL THE OTHER TATTERS WHOSE PATTERH=NS OR WORK WE HAVE ADMIRED TODAY AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? OR ANNOUNCEMENTS? Cynthia: =D>? awesome pattern Mel! picotsnkeys: ty joana: tchau Mary beckyS: thanks for everything Winkerbill: Thanks for the patterns, everyone. Thanks for all you do, Georgia. AKTATTER: THIS INFO REPEATS TONIGHT 8:30PM ET (NEW YORK TIME) Winkerbill: guess I'd better run. Winkerbill: bye all picotsnkeys: bye Steph Winkerbill left the chat 5 hours ago beckyS: bye AKTATTER: THERE WILL BE A SPECIAL EVENT ON FEB. 29TH GinaS: hugs stephanie GinaS: too slow :( joana: k Cynthia: Hi Midori I didn't see you come in.... AKTATTER: WELCOME MIDOR DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS? picotsnkeys: thank you for your gentle & firm leadership Georgia! We are a special group! Dagmar: BYE TO ALL. THANKS GEORGIA Char: Thank you Melanie see everyone again picotsnkeys: bye Dagmar Judy: Whatps on the 29th? picotsnkeys: leap day??? Cynthia: Sadie Hawkins day.... Dagmar: Joana me esvreva quando puder AKTATTER: YOU ARE ALL MOST WELCOME AKTATTER: YES LEAP DAY Midori joined the chat 5 hours ago AKTATTER: SPECIAL EVENT joana: ok, vou sim, obrigado por enquanto. Judy: are we leaping someplace? AKTATTER: WELCOME MIDORI DID YOU HAVE A QUESTION? Patricia: I enjoyed class, thank y'all Midori: hello all i'm new to the group and new to tatting Patricia left the chat 5 hours ago GinaS: brb picotsnkeys: leap day = extra day in February to keep the calendars picotsnkeys: welcome Midori! Judy: Welcome Midori Phyllis: Buy all. see you next week. picotsnkeys: bye patricia picotsnkeys: bye Phyllis Cynthia: Welcome to the gang Midori....I hope you can join us on Thursdays for the beginning class Midori: no questions at this time maybe later picotsnkeys: yes! Come Thursday!! Midori: i will be joining you thursday Cynthia: the class starts at 3 eastern joana: Tchau a todas, tenham uma boa semana, Aktatter, obrigado por mais esta aula. Cynthia: This week we are doing open questions.... AKTATTER: GREAT, OK THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY, HOPEYOU SEE SOME OF YOU TONIGHT ALSO Judy: I'll look for the 29th announcement. Thanks, bye now. GinaS: back AKTATTER: THANKS FOR STOPPING BY AKTATTER: BYE FOR NOW AND HAPPY TATTING ALL AKTATTER left the chat 5 hours ago picotsnkeys: bye Joana...glad you stopped by picotsnkeys: will we be looking at the Gina pattern for the lanyard Thursday? GinaS: melanie, was the thread you made this with regular thread or size 12 Cynthia: I plan to do that and do a intro/you can do it for the split rings GinaS: oh the one with the beads? Cynthia: yes Gina Cynthia: anyone who can do a ring can do this.....really with a bit a coaching... Midori left the chat 5 hours ago picotsnkeys: I was foolish ahem and did these samples in quilting thread. picotsnkeys: it's about size 50 Cynthia: LOL we all do that occasionally! picotsnkeys: way too small for me normally picotsnkeys: but I loved the colors too much GinaS: regular quilting thread, not size 12 right? picotsnkeys: and beads are from an old neckalce......don't know the size for sure...probably size 15 or so Cynthia: you could make multi plys and use them as 1 and make it a bit easier to use picotsnkeys: regular quilting thread GinaS: I have some variegated sewing thread Cynthia: well maybe easier to see...LOL picotsnkeys: I tried the multi ply idea, but it being rayon, that was frustrating also GinaS: I think I have some 15-0 beads too GinaS: oh some of the quilting thread might be rayon I guess picotsnkeys: I do like the way it turned out...but rayon will not be something I pick up again without really thinking about it GinaS: not sure GinaS: I know a lot of my machine embroidery thread is rayon Cynthia: ah that would be a challenge that I would decline. I did 1 item with a thick rayon thread and never again...it was just too slippery and I think I had to redo about 3 times the ds... GinaS: I have some sulky blendables, I wonder if those are cotton? picotsnkeys: the final sample of rwo 1 - 4 is cotton quilting thread marked size 20 on the spool. It's about size 30 tatting thread Cynthia: they kept flipping and locking..... picotsnkeys: the saving grace with this rayon thread: it's so small, you didn't see the mistakes lol GinaS: I have some rayon embroidery thread GinaS: have not tried tatting with rayon yet GinaS: just cotton picotsnkeys: my advice is to tat a bag or something in larger tatting cotton, and then tackle the small size rayon GinaS: have not tried silk either Cynthia: LOL about it being too small to see the mistakes...I've been there too picotsnkeys: is Patty still here? Cynthia: Dryer just buzzed I better go and get them folded so I don't have to get the iron out...LOL picotsnkeys: well. I guess it's time for me to go see who called during the class time. I will be back for the evening class. Dinner will just be later :) GinaS: ok GinaS: hugs cynthia and melanie Cynthia: Peace and Hugs to everyone. I'll be back later picotsnkeys: hugs back picotsnkeys left the chat 5 hours ago GinaS: and anyone else that's still here :) GinaS left the chat 5 hours ago Aurora was timed out 3 hours ago Shanan joined the chat 2 hours ago Shanan: I will not be able to join tonight, but I read through the log from the afternoon class. Some very fun things shared that I am going to put in my "must try" pile of patterns!! Shanan: G- I'm glad your knee is feeling better and that you got to do a little shopping. Sounds like you had fun!! Shanan: Have a great night of tatting everyone. I miss not being able to get in on these classes more often! GinaS joined the chat 103 minutes ago tattnmary joined the chat 95 minutes ago GinaS: hi mary AKTATTER joined the chat 93 minutes ago AKTATTER: hello all tattnmary: Hi AK SharrenM joined the chat 92 minutes ago tattnmary: THought class started at 6 not on the half hour SharrenM: Hi everyone! tattnmary: but I am here : ) tattnmary: Hi Gina tattnmary: and all GinaS: it starts at half past but people come early to chat picotsnkeys joined the chat 91 minutes ago GinaS: hi melanie picotsnkeys: Hi AK, Mary, Gina and Sharren tattnmary: AK I do have that Dover book you mentioned earlier tattnmary: are the patterns still under copyright? Do you know? picotsnkeys: have you done anythgin out of it you really like? tattnmary: Hi Mel AKTATTER: class starts at the next half hour tattnmary: Mel are you talking about thread or patterns? AKTATTER: this is the open question and answer session GinaS: which dover book? picotsnkeys: my copyright date is 1980, which makes it still under Dover copyright. tattnmary: oh, the book AKTATTER: the Anne Orr reprint?? picotsnkeys: the book edited by Rita Weiss with the doily pattern from Anne Orr AKTATTER: yes I have it picotsnkeys: I meant patterns you like mary tattnmary: yes there is a pattern ther for a tray only I used large thread and stitched it to a sweatshirt. AKTATTER: you can't copy the pattern from the Dover book,but you can if you havean original to copy AKTATTER: or you can prepare a new moderl, diagram and new written directions of an old pattern too picotsnkeys: which page for the tray? GinaS: I think I have that book tattnmary: Oh, I was somewhat disapointed when I got that book and others edited by Rita tattnmary: I have many of the original publications tattnmary: thanx AK AKTATTER: well that is dover's specialty reprinting oldies tattnmary: the new terminology is great tattnmary: I hope it gets more universal tattnmary: but Since I have quite a collection of the really old ten cent books picotsnkeys: I've wanted to do Lavender & Lace on p. 43 picotsnkeys: it just looks cool GinaS: I don't have the book right here next to me tattnmary: that is a pretty motif tattnmary: haven't treid it squareknot joined the chat 85 minutes ago tattnmary: want to do a current rendition of the motif? AKTATTER: welcome knot GinaS: hi squareknot tattnmary: I do have the book tattnmary: AK was right many of us do have it on the shelf squareknot: Hi Gina tattnmary: Hi Squareknot lamazona joined the chat 84 minutes ago picotsnkeys: Hi squareknot and lamazona lamazona: hi everyone picotsnkeys: brb need more tea AKTATTER: hi Li AKTATTER: lim Cynthia joined the chat 83 minutes ago Susan joined the chat 83 minutes ago Cynthia: Hi everyone.... Susan: hi all tattnmary: Hi CY & Susan AKTATTER: welcome susan and Cyn Cynthia: glad I made it back. I may have to zip in and out...we have 2 gallons of milk becoming fresh goat cheese. Cynthia: Jan may need help GinaS: hmmm its not where its supposed to be tattnmary: ani't that what happens GIna picotsnkeys: Hi Cyn and Susan tattnmary: just when you think you know Patricia joined the chat 80 minutes ago picotsnkeys: I'm a lazy librarian Patricia: hello... picotsnkeys: There's always stacks of books and music laying around instead of where they should be lol picotsnkeys: Hi Patricia GinaS: I have most of my books arranged by subject GinaS: but a lot of them recently came off the shelves to get cataloged GinaS: so they may have gotten put back in the wrong place Cynthia: lol sounds like my filing system Gina... Cynthia: Hi Patricia tattnmary: that is my project getting all these publications listed and catalogued ugh! Katie Verna/occhitat joined the chat 78 minutes ago AKTATTER: Hi patricia and Medina Katie Verna/occhitat: Hi, tatters@ AKTATTER: welcome katie Katie Verna/occhitat: Hi, AK! picotsnkeys: Hi Katie picotsnkeys: and Medina AKTATTER: is there a question tonight?? GinaS: that's going to bug me now till I find it bmedina joined the chat 76 minutes ago bmedina: Hi. AKTATTER: HI there! tattnmary: I know the feeling Gina tattnmary: Speaking of which I will soon have a list of those old needlework magazines out of Augusta Maine AK nstitcher joined the chat 75 minutes ago picotsnkeys: Hi Nina GinaS: hi nina GinaS: still can't find it nstitcher: hi everyone tattnmary: sosmeone gave me pages from some that had been rolled tightly for storage They are finally flattened again GinaS: dang it Susan: i am looking for some teardrop crystal to make a Tiara any one have a good website tattnmary: I saw a couple really neat tatting things in them. GinaS: ummm ebeads.com tattnmary: 't wait to copy them so that they can be studied ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Visible contents as of 20 Feb 2012 20:33 UTC-06:00 (149 KB) Page 3 of 3 - From 102439 to 152666 - Newest posts at the bottom ============================================================ picotsnkeys: oooo a tatted Tiara with crystal. That will be pretty! GinaS: artbeads.com GinaS: firemountaingems.com tattnmary: teardrop crystals? with the hole in the pointed end? AKTATTER: HI NINA yumatatter joined the chat 73 minutes ago yumatatter: Hello Everyone! Susan: yes if possible GinaS: hi anita tattnmary: right on Gina picotsnkeys: Hi Anita! AKTATTER: HI ANITA tattnmary: great sources tattnmary: Hi Anita Susan: i need two the same size and one larger one picotsnkeys: another place I'm lazy....I go downtown to the bead shop and browse.......leaving my credit card at home! GinaS: the bead store near me just closed picotsnkeys: how sad GinaS: there is one in brandon Susan: I am from a small town and the big city is 3 1/2 hours away picotsnkeys: what size Susan? GinaS: which is kind of far picotsnkeys: size beads Patricia: there is no bead store near me eiter Patricia: eithere AKTATTER: THANK goodness for online mail order bead stores GinaS: thank goodness for online mail order everything GinaS: there's tons of stuff I can't get locally picotsnkeys: here! here!! Susan: small ones 1/4 inch larger one 1/2 to 3/4 inch .... something that would look good together picotsnkeys: living here has definately spoiled me :) picotsnkeys: mmmmmmm will you share pictures when you're finished? Susan: I use it live in vancouver bc and had great access to all sorts of things ... but not here in alberta tattnmary: Gina we lost our bead store here about 2 years ago tattnmary: fortunately I have a nice stash GinaS: are you going to tat over wire to keep the shape with the weight of the beads? tattnmary: then Purple Mountain Beads in Ft Collins closed picotsnkeys: the company or the store? GinaS: I have a couple of tubes of 11/0, 8/0, 15/0... not very many Susan: yes i have finished the one of the small hearts but have to work on the larger one Patricia: k picotsnkeys: are you blogging your progress? GinaS: I have made lampwork beads before squareknot: k yumatatter: do any of you order from Fire Mountain Gems? GinaS: I used to a long time ago Susan: no I have some special hardener I have tried and it will hold it self GinaS: years ago tattnmary: I have but not for some time GinaS: what is the hardener? tattnmary: but I just got a new catalog from them AKTATTER: free patterns from Nina Libin http://www.beanile.com/FreePatterns.html tattnmary: I do really like tatting Nina's patterns yumatatter: Ive had a hard time in the past figuring out Nina's patterns, but I think I had a light bulb moment today. nstitcher: there is a huge store in Boulder CO for beads picotsnkeys: I love Nina's Beanile patterns GinaS: I haven't had a catalog from them in a really long time picotsnkeys: really?? That's wonderful Anita GinaS: I used to order from rings 'n things also but you have to have a business license to order from them picotsnkeys: the light bulb hasn't gone on for me, but I keep thinking about them GinaS: they have good prices though tattnmary: Yes the Boulder store is NICE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! tattnmary: there are also stores called Beadniks in some of the larger cities yumatatter: I was starting earrings by Gale Marshall, and she mentioned adding beads the beanile method...let me see how she worded it brb AKTATTER: ankars tatting lots with beads http://www.beadsky.com/patterns_t.php?ln=en tattnmary: I have been to the one in Chicage and Denver Cynthia: brb yumatatter: *Adding beads using the Beanile method, which has beads on the core thread. just hit me...what I was missing was where Nina puts the beads yumatatter: http://www.tatsall.ca/patterns/pointpetals.htm AKTATTER: this link is R rated please consider before clicking http://www.beadsky.com/make_gallery_tatting.php?ln=en yumatatter: it's works up very pretty with varigated thread Susan: its called fabric stiffy from PLAID its water based until it is dry .. it workes very well AKTATTER: that Nina is tricky with the beads Susan: thank you i will check all the bead places out picotsnkeys: will she be teaching this summer anywhere? yumatatter: cute black bikinis tattnmary: Susan where did you find the stiffener? What store picotsnkeys: The large Jo-Ann's had some...but not the smaller store picotsnkeys: Maybe if there's one close to you, they could order it tattnmary: THank you I like Jo-Anns AKTATTER: Nina is preparing for 3 classes right now, I think i at Hector and 2 at Palmettos but Susan: walmart and craft store tattnmary: was planning to be there today but snow closed the roads AKTATTER: she is not teaching them herself, she is having other teachers present the material but she is making the kits yumatatter: any plans to have here for an online class again? she's not been here since I started the classes I don't think AKTATTER: and nina is preparing 3 patterns for us to use!!! AKTATTER: welcome sandy and andru yumatatter: all right!!! nstitcher: there is a new beads store in Northglenn co I haven't been there yet, but I've seen it tattnmary: where is North Glenn? tattnmary: what direction from Denver tattnmary: Great news from Nina nstitcher: North of Denver, Soputh of Erie andru left this message 58 minutes ago: hi--this is the first time in a long time that I have been able to get on line to get in to this site. We are in a motor home and in a campground that has poor wifi. AKTATTER: this page has useful references for tatting Nina' patterns: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/libin/nlibinstudy.html andru joined the chat 58 minutes ago Paule joined the chat 58 minutes ago nstitcher: It's on Washington street, Near 120th Ave... near Thornton co Paule: Allo everyone! tattnmary: thanx NST picotsnkeys: great to have you Andru, Paule and Sandy AKTATTER: glad you made it, please scroll down and clickjoi chat yumatatter: where are you located andru? AKTATTER: howdy Paule Patricia: hi tattnmary: Thornton I know andru: kpache Junction, AZ yumatatter: almost neighbors! We're in an RV in Yuma Sandyc joined the chat 56 minutes ago picotsnkeys: that is out in the middle of nowhere, Andru Sandyc: Hi Everyone! andru: Doesn't seem so with all the traffic. Everyone from Canada on down is here! picotsnkeys: lolol GinaS: hi all the new people that just came in!!!! tattnmary: Hi Sandy picotsnkeys: lived south of Tucson for awhile....along with everyone from Minnesota 5 months of the year! Sandyc: Hi! yumatatter: Thanks for the Nina links, Georgia, I'm downloading them now! picotsnkeys: and did a lot of mail ordering there tattnmary: I got the email Nst, but when I clicked on reply it went away Sandyc: Great links! tattnmary: can I get it to print out? yumatatter: We usually stay in Benson for a night on the way ease, Picot yumatatter: east nstitcher: www.alleycatbeads.com squareknot joined the chat 54 minutes ago AKTATTER: I broke a rear spring in Benson in 1973 on my old VW bug andru: we are from MN AKTATTER: HI bernice yumatatter: we're originally from Indiana picotsnkeys: oh my....and probably had to stay awhile for the part to arrive! AKTATTER: ok LET'S GET STARTED PLEASE SIGN IN Bernice joined the chat 53 minutes ago yumatatter: Bernice, you made it!! AKTATTER: PLEASE TAKE A MOMENT AND INVITE A TATTER YOU KNOW TO JOIN US TONIGHT Bernice: Hi all AKTATTER: USE THE BUTTON ON THE LEFT AND THEN TYPE IN THEIR EMAIL ADDRESS nstitcher: nina richardsoin denver co myneedlenews@gmail.com, or nstitcher@gmail.com GinaS: Gina Shillitani gshillitani@yahoo.com Tampa, FL USA, shuttle picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi aka picotsnkeys @yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA mostly shuttle yumatatter: yuma tatter, aka Anita, Yuma, AZ, USA, travelingdancers at inbox.com, shuttle Bernice: Yes I made it but I haven't done any packing yet. SharrenM: Sharren Morgan, greenwoodtatter@yahoo.co?m, Greenwood SC, mostly shuttle? lamazona: Lim JiHyun, lamazona@naver.com, Seoul, Korea, shuttle andru: andru, Ann Koester, andru@hickorytech.net, MN now in AZ GinaS: I wish I could get all of nina's books Susan: Susan hamel Taber alberta canada, albertadeers@hotmail.com? shuttle, needle and some finger tatting Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com or tattingaway@gmail.com shuttle Katie Verna/occhitat: Katie Verna, Creedmoor NC, katie@r-v-r.com, shuttle squareknot: gailarmstrong@bellsouth.?net Vicksburg,MS US needle, shuttle tattnmary: Mary Maynard, aka tattnmary Laramie, WY USA Sandyc: Sandy Cofer, Bremerton, WA, shuttle Bernice: Bernice O bmo1941@gmail.net Bernice: Yuma, AZ USA needle bmedina: Beatriz Medina, mabelistas@gmail.com, Campinas, São Paulo, Brasil andru: shuttle Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotro?n.ca bmedina: shuttle Susan: thank you for the alley cat beads.com I will look at it after class Patricia: Patricia Lyn Cobb patricialyn@sbcglobal.ne?t Muskogee OK USA shuttle GinaS: what is the differencer between beanile and ankars? AKTATTER: THIS NEXT LINK IS ALSO ONE TO THIN ABOUT BEFORE CLICKING. iT IS IN REALITY A SITE FOR MAIL ORDER RUSSIAN BRIDES BUT IT HAS A HORRIBLE INTRODUCTION CONCERNING LACE AND TATTING MISINFORMATION BEWARE http://www.rbrides.com/info/russian-vologda-lace.htm AKTATTER: bENAILE IS JUST NINA LIBIN AKTATTER: ANKARS IS A RUSSIAN SCHOOL OF TATTERS AND BEADERS Paule: Hey Beatriz! How is the weather in Sao Paolo? AKTATTER: BEANILE IS BEADED TATTING BY NINA LIBIN BEANILE AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS TO START?? bmedina: Hot, LOL CarolynG joined the chat 48 minutes ago AKTATTER: OK THEN LET'S GO RIGHT TO MELANIE'C BUN HOLDER http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/melbunholder.pdf AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN IS BROUGHT TO US BY OUR OWN MELANIE CERVIE AKTATTER: WELCOME CAROLYN CarolynG: sorry I'm late! AKTATTER: MEL WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE US THROUGH IT TONIGHT? AKTATTER: ALWAYS WELCOME NO MATTER WHEN picotsnkeys: I can try.... picotsnkeys: iT ALL STARTED WHEN WINKERBILL DESCRIBED HER CREATION SHE USES IN HER HAIR AKTATTER: OK GREAT! Cynthia: go for it Mel.... picotsnkeys: I TRIED AN ALL MOGNONETTE WITH BEADS AND LIKED IT A LOT AKTATTER: THIS IS MEL'S FIRST TIME DOING A PATTERN SO LISTEN AND FOLLOW ALONG PLEASE picotsnkeys: THEN I FOUND THE QUILTING THREAD WITH THESE SCRUMPTIOUS COLORS....BUT IT'S RAYON AND REALLY SMALL picotsnkeys: SO IT WENT INTO THE "SOMETIME" PILE AKTATTER: sTEPH'S SNOOD http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/emmyliebertsnood.html Sunela T joined the chat 45 minutes ago picotsnkeys: THEN WE LOOKED AT aNNE ORR'S DOILY REPUBLISHED BY DOVER picotsnkeys: hI SUNELA AKTATTER: WELCOME SUNELA Sunela T: Hi everyone! picotsnkeys: I WORKED THE FIRST 4 ROWS IN A COTTON THREAD (SEE PHOTO ON THE LAST PAGE) Sunela T: Hi Mel and Georgia AKTATTER DOVER PUB REPRINT http://www.hhtatting.com/ahpimages/t26.jpg picotsnkeys: I COULD SEE GREAT POSSIBILITIES....SO I STARTED OUT. picotsnkeys: ED NOTE: THE FORMATTING ON THE FIRST PAGE DIDN'T WORK WELL....THE ABBREVIATIONS TABLE GOT A LITTLE SKEWED. AKTATTER: K picotsnkeys: YOU'LL HAVE TO PLAY MATCH THE TERM UP WITH THE DEFINITION BY GOING DOWN A LINE OR TWO ....SORRY AKTATTER: PATTERN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/melbunholder.pdf picotsnkeys: YOU WON'T NEED ANY BEADS ON YOUR SHUTTLE UNTIL ROW 4, SO IF YOU CUT AND TIE, JUMP IN! Katie Verna/occhitat: I'm so embarrassed but I'm falling alseep---not the company, but my little grands who gave me a work out today. Niters! AKTATTER: JUST ASK IF THERE IS A QUESTION ONT HE TATTING ABBREVIATIONS AKTATTER: NIGHT KATIE TAKE CARE picotsnkeys: iF YOU WISH TO CLIMB OUT, LOAD THEM ON AT THE BEGINNING yumatatter: bye katie...enjoy those youngstes while you can! tattnmary: bye Katie I do the thing with grandsons too and I hear you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! yumatatter: youngsters picotsnkeys: NIGHT kATIE...REST WELL picotsnkeys: SO....CENTER RING WITH MOCK PICOT TO CLIMB OUT TO ROW 1 bmedina: Me also... Almost midnight here and I'm very sleepy. AKTATTER: CLIMB OUT = USING MOCK PICOT SPLIT RING OR SPLIT CHAIN TO ADVANCE FROM ROW TO ROW WITHOUT CUTTING AND TYING. THE CLIMB OUT PATH IS MARKED IN MEL'S DIAGRAM AKTATTER: NIGHT MEDINA bmedina: Good night everybody, I'll look at the class afterwards. Cynthia: goodnight Beatriz AKTATTER: LOG WILL POST AFTER CLASS TONIGHT picotsnkeys: I NOTATED WHETHER I WAS USING SHUTTLE 1 OR SHUTTLE 2 BECAUSE i WAS GETTING TOO CONFUSED WITHOUT MY NOTES yumatatter: nite medina picotsnkeys: NIGHT MEDINA AKTATTER: THAT IS ALWAYS A GOO DHELP MEL THANKS tattnmary: good idea Mel picotsnkeys: BASICALLY, IT'S A RING THROWN OFF OF RING/CHAIN DESIGN tattnmary: which row are we on squareknot: k AKTATTER: ROW 1 IS ABOUT TO START tattnmary: k picotsnkeys: SO, FOR ROW 1, MOCK PICOT FROM CENTER RING. SPLIT RING AND THEN CHAIN AWAY AKTATTER: K picotsnkeys: CLIMBING OUT TO ROW 2 IS A BIT TRICKY AS YOU HAVE JOINS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FINAL SPLIT RING. FOR THOSE THAT ARE DARING, YOU CAN USE THE LARK'S HEAD PICOT JOIN. picotsnkeys: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/lhpj/lhpj.html Paule: How large are the picots in the center ring? AKTATTER: THROW OFF RING OR FLOATING RING http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/FloatingRings.pdf AKTATTER: THOSE PICOTS ON THE CENTER RING ARE JUST FOR JOINS SO THEY NEED NOT BE VERY LARGE picotsnkeys: BOTH ROW 1 AND ROW 2 USE BEADS ON PICOT JOINS . SO, ALL YOU HAVE TO DO IS KEEP TRACK ALL THOSE BEADS.....HARD TO DO IN A CAR LOL picotsnkeys: ARE WE READY FOR ROW 2? AKTATTER: OK HERE :) Susan joined the chat 34 minutes ago Sunela T: ok Susan: yup row 2 AKTATTER: WELCOME CAROLINE Patricia: k SharrenM: Gotta say goodnight, all - gotta be up at the crack of dark tomorrow! Cynthia: k Caroline Omaha NE joined the chat 34 minutes ago AKTATTER: NIGHT SHARREN PLEASE JOIN US ON LEADP DAY TOO picotsnkeys: NIGHT SHARREN...SLEEP WELL picotsnkeys: HI CAROLINE AKTATTER: WELCOME TATS52 tats*52 joined the chat 33 minutes ago Caroline Omaha NE: I don't have long hair any more but I wonder if this could be a cover for a pincushion line in the Tatting for Today book has some. Sandyc: k AKTATTER: IS ANYONE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT? AKTATTER: WE ARE BEGINNING ROW 2 OF THE PATTERN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/melbunholder.pdf tats*52: Gail Baumgardner Spring Grove, PA USA, shuttle picotsnkeys: ROW 2 IS MUCH THE SAME AS ROW 1, THERE ARE TWO SMALL RINGS JOINING TO PREVIOUS ROUND, AND A CLOVERLEAF THROWN OFF Susan: that would be a great idea AKTATTER: SURE I THINK IT WOULD WORK NICELY picotsnkeys: SURE......THIS WOULD MAKE A GOOD PINCUSHION COVER AKTATTER: GLAD YOU MADE IT GAIL picotsnkeys: BEAD JOINS BETWEEN THE CLOVERLEAF SETS ALSO Bernice joined the chat 31 minutes ago AKTATTER: WHEN I JOINED THE ARMY MY HAIR WAS SO LONG I COULD SIT ON IT, THOSE WERE THE DAYS! AKTATTER: NOW IT BARELY COVERS MY EARS, THAT'S WHAT HOT FLASHES DO TO US! tattnmary: I was once able to sit on my hair too AK AKTATTER: ;0 squareknot: Me, too tats*52: first time in months. had long hair in my collerge days picotsnkeys: IF YOU WISHED TO CLIMB OUT, I WOULD RECOMMEND USING THE FINAL RING OF THE FINAL CLOVERLEAF, BUT YOU COULD ALSO EXIT THROUGH THE CENTER RING OF THE FINAL CLOVERLEAF picotsnkeys: I STILL HAVE LONG HAIR BECAUSE I HATE GETTING IT CUT IN "SALONS" tattnmary: thanks Mel still looking at that : ) picotsnkeys: LAZY, LAZY, LAZY picotsnkeys: READY FOR ROW 3? tattnmary: know what you mean tats*52: would this make a suncatcher - attach to a metal ring? AKTATTER: becasue of the beaded join ON THE CLOVELEAF I WOULD RECOMMEND THE CENTER RING TOO picotsnkeys: OF COURSE....ESPECIALLY WITH CRYSTALS! tattnmary: climbing out of or through that cloverleaf Bernice: I like the idea of the pincushion cover tattnmary: should beinteresting tats*52: oh my AKTATTER: THE FIRST OR SECOND HALF WOULD WORK OUT I THINK picotsnkeys: HERE'S WHERE I GOT STUCK THE FIRST TIME AROUND Bernice: When we started full time RVing I cut mine off....like a butch cut I love it...so easy AKTATTER http://www.interweave.com/images/imagesneedle/pwk_mag/pin3rd.jpg picotsnkeys: I DIDN'T MUCH CARE FOR HOW ROW 4 LOOKED, I KNEW I SHOULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT, BUT COULDN'T SEE WHAT yumatatter: wouldn't recognize you with hair long enough to comb, Bernice LOL yumatatter: that's pretty Georgia picotsnkeys: SO, I SENT OUT A PLEA FOR IDEAS FROM ALL SORTS OF GROUPS, HERE, INTATTERS, ETC tattnmary: can see the difference from Anne's picotsnkeys: AFTER THINKING THROUGH SUGGESTIONS, AND TRYING OUT DIFFERENT IDEAS IN MY STASH OF TRIAL THREADS, I CAME UP WITH ROW 3....JUST A SIMPLE RING AND CHAIN TO FILL IN THE SPACE AND MAKE IT MORE STURDY AKTATTER: PIECEWORK MAGAZINE , INTERWEAVE PRESS IS HAVING PINCUSHION CONTEST NOT TOO LATE ENTER WITH MEL'S SNOOD PATTERN AKTATTER: http://www.interweave.com/needle/NWOY/pastwinners/winners_2011.asp picotsnkeys: OH....PLEASE DO!!!!!!! AKTATTER: GOOD CHOICE MEL picotsnkeys: CLIMBOING OUT TO ROW 4 WAS A BIT EASIER..... picotsnkeys: AND ROW 4 IS PRETTY MUCH THE SAME AS ROW 2 Susan: k tats*52: k tattnmary: k squareknot: k AKTATTER: BE SURE TO NOTE THE BEAD AT THE BASE OF THE FLOATING RING ON THE CHAIN Patricia: k picotsnkeys: THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS WHERE I CHOSE TO PUT THE BEADS. I PLACED THEM AT THE BASE OF THE RING, NOT ON A JOIN. THAT MEANT THE BEADS NEEDED TO BE ON THE SHUTTLE picotsnkeys: YOU GUESSED IT, I UNWOUND MY SHUTTLE, LOADED THE BEAADS AND THEN STARTED BACK IN picotsnkeys: SIGH Bernice: k AKTATTER: LOL BTDT tattnmary: takes time but the best way to do it I think Paule: Climbing out of row 3: with a split chain...? AKTATTER: YES A SHORT 6 DS CHAIN I BELIEVE tats*52: i find it awkward to tat with beads - not enough practice yet i guess AKTATTER: THE SPLIT RING INTO THE NEXT ROW picotsnkeys: YES tattnmary: tats try some earring patterns picotsnkeys: TATTING WITH BEADS CAN BE AWKWARD....BUT REWARDING :) nstitcher: . Sandyc: k tattnmary: they finsih quickly and are small AKTATTER: HERE'S A PATTERN YOU CAN WORK WITH OR WITHOUT A SHUTTLE AND WITH OR WITHOUT BEADS TO LEAN ON tats*52: tattnmary - thanks for the suggestion AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/libinear.html tattnmary: so errors are not so devastating Sunela T: My biggest problem with beads is getting them all on a shuttle and having them ready when I need it instead of unwinding thread until I find one in the shuttle and winding the thread back. I wish there was an easier way! Paule: So the bead is on the ring; not on the chain? picotsnkeys: GOOD PATTERN TO LEARN ON picotsnkeys: AT THE BASE OF THE RING tattnmary: need some patterns or suggestions? tattnmary: Paule yes AKTATTER: ROW 4 BEAD IN ON SHUTTLE 1 tattnmary: all the DS are made and the bead rests on the core thread between first and lasst DS picotsnkeys: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/AddBeadBaseRing.pdf IS jANE'S TUTORIAL yumatatter: I agree Sunela...spend half my time winding and rewinding because of the beads tats*52: k tattnmary: Sunela about the only way I have found is practice and more pracitce AKTATTER: DON'T FORGET ABOUT http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/AddBeadsNew.pdf AKTATTER: LOL GMTA tattnmary: then you kindof learn a little better how to 'space beads on the thread picotsnkeys: ROW 5 IS BASICALLY ROW 3. THE BEADS HERE ARE ADDED IN ROW 6 AS A BEAD JOIN, SO AGAIN.....THEY ARE NOT ON THE SHUTTLE, JUST ROLLING AROUND YOUR BEAD TRAY...JUST BEFORE YOUR CAT JUMPS UP TO SEE WHAT YOU'RE WORKING ON LOL tattnmary: Mel!? !? surely you have better trained your cat? : ) picotsnkeys: HAH AKTATTER: LOL yumatatter: as I wind the shuttle every few rounds I add a few more beads to the wind, but never comes out right LOL Sunela T: OK...will keep practicing :) picotsnkeys: THEY'RE WORKING ON TRAINING ME picotsnkeys: hALFWAY DONE tattnmary: I know Dogs have masters cats have staff picotsnkeys: READY FOR ROW 6? AKTATTER: NO ROLL BEAD MATS http://www.brightlingsbeads.com/bead-work-mat.html tattnmary: yes AKTATTER: READY HERE picotsnkeys: ROW 6 BEGINS MIGNONETTE....NOTHING FANCY PAST THE BEAD JOIN yumatatter: that second tutorial by jane is interesting, georgia..can see how it would work AKTATTER: GOOD Sunela T: I read it once in Jane's blog....may be I should try that. picotsnkeys: THE FIRST BEAD JOIN CAN BE TRICKY, YOU NEED TO THREAD BOTH THREADS THROUGH. yumatatter: Our Joanns Fabrics has the beading mats...they're great! picotsnkeys: I MADE THE BARE THREAD SPACE LONG ENOUGH TO WORK 3 RINGS INTO EACH ONE IN ROW 7. Patricia: k Caroline Omaha NE: My cats also steal things. Tatting, paperclips I have clipped patterns together with. :) picotsnkeys: YOUR CHOICE picotsnkeys: JUST HOPE THEY DON'T SWALLOW STRING....THAT CAN BE DEADLY FOR THEM tattnmary joined the chat 13 minutes ago picotsnkeys: WB mARY squareknot: k tattnmary: just hit the wrong button :( tats*52: Good night all! Will have to work on tatting with beads! AKTATTER: K AKTATTER: NIGHT GAIL tattnmary: nite tats*52 picotsnkeys: THE REST IS PRETTY SELF EXPLANATORY, WORKING AN ELASTIC IN FOR PUTTING IT ALL AROUND MY PONYTAIL Sandyc joined the chat 12 minutes ago Cynthia: phone sorry tattnmary: Mel I am so glad I was able to get to both classes today picotsnkeys: ANY QUESTION, PLEASE EMAIL...... tattnmary: am much more confortable with the snood now tattnmary: thank you yumatatter: with size 20, would it work up large enough for a small drawstring bag? picotsnkeys: your welcome tattnmary: I think so yuma picotsnkeys: definately, Anita AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH MEL YOU DID A GREAT JOB picotsnkeys: ty Caroline Omaha NE: Thanks so much!! Sandyc: Thank you! Cynthia: should work yumatatter: It's such a pretty pattern, and I have such short hair LOL tattnmary: you really did YEAH MEL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!!! yumatatter: Thanks mel! You did a great job designing and explaining!! AKTATTER: AND THANKS FOR TAKING US THROUGH THE PATTERN, JUST HAVING SOMEONE TELL US WHERE TO START IS A GREAT HELP AT TIMES picotsnkeys: *curtsy curtsy* Caroline Omaha NE left the chat 10 minutes ago Paule: My grandaughter has long hair and is studying ballet; maybe... she would enjoy one of those... Bernice: Good job...thanks and goodnight all AKTATTER AND QUESTION ON THE REVISED GINA' HEART PATTERN BY MARY MAYNARD? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2012/maynardginaheartpattern.jpg AKTATTER: NIGHT BERNICE yumatatter: now that's a thought! for the granddaughters! AKTATTER: OH HOW SWEET BALLET? tattnmary: I am signing off Mel THankx again but I also have an early start in the dark am Swimming at 5:30 tattnmary: TTFN Patricia: I enjoyed class, thank you...goodnight AKTATTER: PAULE HAVE YOU SEEN http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/Ballerina.pdf AKTATTER: NIGHT MARY lamazona: sorry, I should go. I have a lunch date. See you next week. AKTATTER: NIGHT LIM Sandyc: I made one for my granddaughter and just did an enlarged snowflake and ran the elastic bracelet thread aroung the last row. Worked great! lamazona: bye everyone picotsnkeys: bye Lim...glad you made it Patricia left the chat 9 minutes ago yumatatter: Georgia, YOu said NIna is developing patterns for the class...any idea when we'll have those? picotsnkeys: that works! ribbon is what Winkerbill likes to use....my hair is too fine and slippery AKTATTER MORE PONY TAIL HOLDERS http://www.palmettotatters.org/events/TatDays2011/Teachers/Georgia_GinaB_HairCsrunchies.jpg AKTATTER: ONE FOR LEAP DAY AND 2 MORE IN MARCH AND APRIL AKTATTER: ANY GENEARL QUESTIONS?? AKTATTER: DON'T FORGET BEGINNERS CLASS ON THURSDAY 3 AND 8:30PM ET picotsnkeys: just answered what's up for leap day Sandyc: Yes! What yumatatter: when we'll have Nina's patterns? AKTATTER: YES Sandyc: What is the two color ring that you are teaching at LPS in April? picotsnkeys: going to eat dinner now. See you all soon AKTATTER: DID YOU READ THE CRO-TAT BOOKBY HELEN FREE?? AKTATTER: I FIGURE OUT HOW TO DO IT WITH THE SHUTTLE Sandyc: I couldn't access it at all. Not sure why. I'll try again. AKTATTER: BTW IS THE TATTER WHO WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO THE SQUARE RING ON TATTING NEEDLE HERE TO NIGHT?? AKTATTER: IT IS FREE DOWNLOAD picotsnkeys left the chat 5 minutes ago AKTATTER: NIGHT JMEL squareknot joined the chat 5 minutes ago Sandyc: I found it but have no idea where it landed???? I tried several things. AKTATTER: WB KNOT squareknot: I would like to know who to do the square ring on needle. Sandyc: So looking foreward to it! AKTATTER: http://www.4shared.com/document/6HeRMah7/How_to_Crotat.html AKTATTER: KNOT IT IS VERY TEDIOUS ON THE NEEDLE BUT CAN BE DONE Sandyc: Thanks! I'll go now and see if I am successfull. Thanks so much for another great class! AKTATTER: THREAD 2 THREADS IN THE YE OF NEEDLE, ONE A SHORT CUT THREAD AND ONEN GOING TO THE ALL THREAD AKTATTER: BEGIN RING AS NORMAL, WRAP DS UP TO THE FIRST CHANGE OVER SPOT AKTATTER: SLIDE DS OFF THE NEEDLE AKTATTER: REMOCE THE SHORT THREA FROM THE EYE AKTATTER: TAT 1 DS- 1 DS AND SLIDE DS OFF THE NEEDLE AKTATTER: THREAD THE CUT THREAD AKTATTER: RETHREAD THE CUT THREAD AKTATTER: AND REPEAT FOR THE EACH CORNER AKTATTER: NIGHT SANDY AKTATTER: OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS?? squareknot: I will give that try. Thanks. AKTATTER: THANK YOU ALL FOR STOPPING BY TONIGHT yumatatter: did we get an answer on when we'll have Nina's patterns AKTATTER: THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HELPED MAKE THIS LESSON POSSIBLE AKTATTER: NINA LEAP DAY FOLLOWED BY A PATTERN INMARCH AND ONE IN APRIL yumatatter: Thanks for another great class, Georgia... AKTATTER: OK THE LOG WILL POST IN A FEW MINUTES yumatatter: ok...so is her patterns the pony tail patterns Cynthia: Fantastic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?!!! Thanks AKTATTER: GOOD TO SE YOU ALL TONIGHT TAKE CARE AND HAPPY TATTING ALL AKTATTER left the chat 72 seconds ago Sunela T: good night squareknot left the chat 63 seconds ago Sunela T left the chat 62 seconds ago yumatatter: guess I'll find out later LOL nstitcher: night yumatatter: good night...gonna make the class tomorrow night, Gina? ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com