ÿþ»The Online Tatting Class« Visible contents as of 19 Aug 2011 13:49 UTC-05:00 (265 KB) Page 1 of 6 · Char 1 to 51266 · Newest posts at the bottom AKTATTER cleared the room 2 days ago AKTATTER joined the chat 2 days ago AKTATTER: Aug. 17 special event starts at the next hour. andru joined the chat 2 days ago andru: Hi! What's up? AKTATTER: helo there!!! AKTATTER: how nice to see you here Winkerbill joined the chat 2 days ago Winkerbill: Hi everyone! AKTATTER: our links for today AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... AKTATTER: welcome Steph Winkerbill: Did you get my e-mail this morning - only a little while ago.... Elnora joined the chat 2 days ago Elnora: hello everyone Winkerbill: I ...um...discovered I hadn't scanned those last Emmy Liebert medallions. Winkerbill: So I scanned Winkerbill: and sent them. Winkerbill: ;-) AKTATTER: oh ok I will get them downloaded AKTATTER: Elnora great to see you here! Winkerbill: There's a Maria from Mexico going to Tat Days. Is that "our" Maria from class? AKTATTER: yes yes!! it is Winkerbill: I am SO excited ....by September Gary will be glad to get rid of me for a couple days! Winkerbill: ;-) AKTATTER: and it is the same Maria who helped Carmin prepare this lesson AKTATTER: lol Winkerbill: This double-cluny rose is just gorgeous. AKTATTER: itsn' it though Winkerbill: ooh....BRB - I was so ecited about class I forgot my shuttles and thread AKTATTER sent out an invitation 2 days ago AKTATTER: lol Winkerbill: I'm back! Haven't even made tea yet, but I think I can manage to tat for an hour without tea....I hope. Winkerbill: I really missed "seeing' you all summer. The Bella Online stuff helps.... AKTATTER sent out an invitation 2 days ago AKTATTER: is that history stuff too dull and boring?? Winkerbill: I was fascinated.... Winkerbill: especially when I discovered Michael's was the most recent in the buyout of the thread company.... AKTATTER: great I did so enjoy it. I got a callback from the House of White Birches yesterday with some info but none of them knew anything about the series of tatting books from the '80's Winkerbill: felt bad, though - our local Michael's is 'legendary' in this area for terrible customer service. AKTATTER: welcome Rosemarie and Linda andru: I thought it was interesting, too. Linda joined the chat 2 days ago AKTATTER: wb andru Linda: Hi Winkerbill: Can't help but think the original guys would not have wanted it to end up that way....\ AKTATTER: true AKTATTER: they were all about making the customers happy enough to come back Winkerbill: Oh - Brainerd and Armstrong....and edging from 1889, I think.... Winkerbill: I can't make heads or tails of it. AKTATTER: yes? Winkerbill: Can't even draw it. AKTATTER: oh... Aurora joined the chat 2 days ago Winkerbill: Did anyone write it in 'modern' tattign notation? Aurora: Waoo so early Aurora: Hello ladies Winkerbill: Hi Aurora! Linda: hi Aurora mariaalcantara joined the chat 2 days ago Elnora: I missed some conversation. Just had a phone call from my grandson and now I have a great grandson Aurora: Hi Winker, Linda, Maria, Elnora, Andru and georgia mariaalcantara: Hi girls!!!! tjis morning... Aurora: Great to see you again. Winkerbill: Wow, how exciting! Babies are living, breathing miracles. That's wonderful! AKTATTER: oh congratulations I hope mom and babe are both healthy! AKTATTER: maria welcome AKTATTER: hi Aurora Winkerbill: Hi Maria! You are going to Tat Days? I am SO excited! Aurora: Congratulations Elnora. that´s happiness :D AKTATTER: I will look Steph Winkerbill: Thanks Georgia. Elnora: everyone is fine and thanks everyone. Winkerbill: Even a picture or drawing would help. ;-) mariaalcantara: winker....I miss the pattern you are talking about AKTATTER: the fairy queeen or the first one? Elnora: I really liked the cluny rose. it is beautiful. I want to try to make that one. Winkerbill: The first one - it's in small print. I tried the fairy queen and it's not hard (but someone wrote it in 'modern' tatting notation, which helped....and there was a picture. AKTATTER: no rewrite on the firs one, just the fairy queen. Winkerbill: oh well.... AKTATTER: so shall we get started? Winkerbill: brb....Gary needs the computer for a minute. AKTATTER: WElcome TO THEaUG. 17 TH SPECIAL EVENT AKTATTER: OK AKTATTER: TODAY WE ARE STUDYING THE DOUBLE CLUNY TECHNIQUE ARE AKTATTER: PRESENTED BY CARMIN BARRON WITH THE HELP OF MARIA ALCANTARA AKTATTER: FIRST LET US TAKE A QUICK REVIEW AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/patclun... AKTATTER: THAT IS A LOOM YOU CAN USE FOR REGULA CLUNY TATTING AKTATTER: IF YOU CUT A LOOM FOR THE DOUBLE CLUNY AKTATTER: YOU WILL NEED 6 SLOTS AT THE TOP AKTATTER: AND AT LEAST 2 SLOTS AT THE BOTTOM WHICH IS THE PINCHING POINT mariaalcantara: Maria Alcantara;famalcan@prodi gy.net.mx;Mexico City: both styles AKTATTER: REMEMBER YOU CAN DO THE CLUNY WITH EITHER NEEDLE OR SHUTTLE AKTATTER: http://needledreams.tripod.com/clunnylea... AKTATTER: AND FOR A QUICK REVIEW OF THE METHOD AKTATTER: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art3... AKTATTER: THOSE PHOTOS GIVE THE IDEA OF HOW TO WEAVE AKTATTER: ALSO REMEMBER A "PASS" MEANS A ROUND TRIP AKTATTER: FROM RIGHT TO LEFT AND BACK TO RIGHT = 1 PASS AKTATTER: SO NOW BRING OUT YOUR DIRECTIONS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... AKTATTER: WE BEGIN BY WRAPPING THE BALL/SH2 THREAD AROUND THE LEFT HAND TO FORM THE LOOM Elnora: I have been trying to bookmark these sites but cannot.don't know how to save them AKTATTER: MARIA PLEASE CORRECT ME IF I MISS A POINT :) AKTATTER: ELNORA WHEN YOU GO TO SITE IN THE TOP BROWSER BAR WHERE YOU PUT THE LINK mariaalcantara: ok.....but you are a great theacher AKTATTER: IS THERE A START OR A HEART? AKTATTER: :) AKTATTER: STAR AKTATTER: IF SO AKTATTER: THEN CLICK ON THE STAR/HEART, IT WIL ASK YOU TO PUT THIS LINK IN YOUR FAVORITES AKTATTER left the chat 2 days ago AKTATTER joined the chat 2 days ago AKTATTER: THEN YOU SAY YES OR SELECT A FOLDER IN WHICH TO SAVE IT Elnora: I had a page like a sheet 0f paper with folded corner AKTATTER: THAT IS IT THAT IS A BOOKMARK! AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE FIRST PHOTO #1 AKTATTER: YOU SEE THE PREVIOUS WORK (A CLUNY BUT IT COULD BE RING OR CHAIN ETC.) AKTATTER: IT IS THE START OF THE PINCH Elnora: Maybe can come back to class info. will try AKTATTER: GREAT! AKTATTER: NOW TAKE SH2/BALL THREAD AND WRAP IT AROUND THE MIDDLE FINGER AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: KEEP A GOOD GRIP ON THE PINCH AT ALL TIMES AKTATTER: NOW TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE PINKY (LITTLE FINGER) AKTATTER: AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: ON STEP 5 THERE IS A CORRECTION AKTATTER: PINKY (C) SHOULD BE RING FINGER (C) AKTATTER: PLEASE MARK THAT ON YOUR COPY, THE PHOTO SHOWS IT CORRECTLY AKTATTER: OK STEP 5 TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE RING FINGER Elnora: k AKTATTER: AND BACK TO THE PINCH Aurora: i printed it out, but doesnt look very wwell AKTATTER: THE PRINT OUT OR THE CLUNY?? DON'T GET FRUSTRATED! Aurora: the picts printed lolol Aurora: i´m not lolol AKTATTER: OK IF YOU NEED TO COPY THE PHOTOS AND PUT IN YOU GRAPHICS VIEWER TO ENLARGE OR LIGHT EN THEM AKTATTER: OK PHOTO 3 AND STEP 7 AKTATTER: TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE PINKY (2ND TIME) AKTATTER: AND BACK TO THE PINCH mariaalcantara: i will correct the pdf ...and resend it to you when we finish this class...sory AKTATTER: NOPROBLEM MARIA YOU DID A FANTASTIC JOB WITH THE ENGLISH AND EXPLANATONS AKTATTER: NOW WE AER ASKED TO STUDY PHOTO 4 AKTATTER: TO IDENTIFY THE SEPARATE THREADS AKTATTER: THE PINCHING POINT IS MARKED AKTATTER: AND THE THREADS ARE MARKED A C B AND D AKTATTER: NOTICE SOME THREADS WERE SKIPPED AKTATTER: OK SO FAR?? mariaalcantara: we only mark one of the 2 threads in each finger AKTATTER: WHAT? NO ONE BUT ME TANGLED UP ?? LOL Aurora: i need a loom or more fingers lolol AKTATTER: RIGHT MARIA AKTATTER: I CUT A LOOM AKTATTER: MARIA BTW I THINK MY DH HAS FIGURE OUT HOW TO CUT A WOODEN LOOM FOR YOU. MORE LATER Winkerbill: I'm going to have to cut a loom. AKTATTER: ON TO STEP 10 AND PHOTO 5 AKTATTER: MARIA mariaalcantara: great... but a laser cutter is doing the job for me!!! jajajaja AKTATTER: TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE MIDDLE FINGER AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: IS THIS CORRECT? Aurora: again? AKTATTER: OH! OK, DH IS WORKING WITH HIS LITTLE JIG SAW mariaalcantara: no....you have to dend the shuttle between the threads you already have AKTATTER: OR MARI DOES IT MEAN mariaalcantara: send AKTATTER: TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD IN BETWEEN THE MIDDLE AND RING FINGER AND THEN LET IT HANG OUT mariaalcantara: only put it the fingers, that will give you a usefull thread AKTATTER: SO IT DOES NOT COME BACK TO THE PINCH OK!! mariaalcantara: thats write G AKTATTER: THANKS AKTATTER: SO NOW WE BEGIN TO WEAVE THE CLUNY AKTATTER: PHOTO 6 STEP 11 AKTATTER: TO MAKE THE PASS WE NEED TO IDENTIFY THE THREADS AGAIN Elnora: a wooden loom would be great save one for me AKTATTER: A B C D AND E AKTATTER: OK ELNORA AKTATTER: SO WE TAKE SH1 UNDER E C AND A Winkerbill: A plastic canvas star shape woudl work, I think.... Aurora: how can you form ahand loom and write? Winkerbill: Funny...when I use my fingers as the loom (for a regular Cluny) the shape is longer and thinner than when I use a plastic canvas loom - then it's fatter and a little shorter. AKTATTER: WHILE PASSING OVER D AND B AKTATTER: I WORKED IT A HEAD OF TIME andru: sorry, i have to go AKTATTER: NOW THAT AKTATTER: COME AGAIN ANDRU AKTATTER: NOW THAT = ONLY 1/2 PASS AKTATTER: WE MUST RETURN BY PASSING SH1 UNDER B AND D AKTATTER: WHILE GOING OVER A C AND E AKTATTER: THAT COMPLETES ONE PASS AKTATTER: NOW AS YOU CONTINUE TO WEAVE AKTATTER: YOU NEED TO TIGHTEN THE POINT AKTATTER: BY USING THE POINT OF THE SHUTTLE Elnora: are you going to add which shuttle under etc on instructio photos? AKTATTER: OR A CROCHET HOOK TO PRESS THE THEAD DOWN Elnora: I can't keep up lol AKTATTER: I DON'TKNOW ELNORA, BUT THE LOOM IS ALWAYS SH2 OR THE BALL AND THE WEAVING SHUTTLE = SH1 AKTATTER: AS YOU REACH THE MIDDLE SECTION, YOU MAKE THE CLUNY FATTER AKTATTER: AS YOU REACH THE END YOU MAKE THE CLUNY SKINNY AGAIN AKTATTER: BUT THE CLUNY CAN BE ANY SHAPE YOU CHOOSE AKTATTER: FAT AND STUMPY, LONG AND THIN , OR ROUNDED Elnora: that helps thanks AKTATTER: THERE IS A NOTE IN STEP 17 AKTATTER: IT SAYS TO WATCH THE TENSION ON THREAD E AKTATTER: THREAD E IS THE LAST THREAD THAT WE TOOK BETWEEN THE MIDDLE AND RING FINGERS AKTATTER: AND THEN LET IT HANG LOOSE ON THE OTHER SIDE AKTATTER: IT IS FLOPPY SO IT MIGHT KINK OR KNOT UP AKTATTER: MARIA AKTATTER: STEP 20 PHOTO 12 mariaalcantara: ... AKTATTER: IF WE ARE MAKING A CLUNY WITH 40 PASSES AKTATTER: WE ACTUALLY SHOULD MAKE 39 OR 41, SO IT ENDS ON AN ODD NUMBER AKTATTER: CORRECT? mariaalcantara: the idea is that we call pass to a 172 of pass.... Marie Smith joined the chat 2 days ago Winkerbill: Hi Marie! AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIE mariaalcantara: for us a pass = to 1/2 pass of you so....we have to recalculate that AKTATTER: 172? Aurora: hello marie Marie Smith: Thank you. I have missed you all! mariaalcantara: 1/2 AKTATTER: AH OK AKTATTER: PLEASE MAKE A NOTE ON STEP 20 mariaalcantara: that means that you have to finish in a 1/2 pass... AKTATTER: WE MAKE ONLY A HALF PASS, I.E. WE TAKE THE SH1 FROM RIGHT TO LEFT AND STOP mariaalcantara: ok... AKTATTER: GOT IT! AKTATTER: AND THEN LET THE SH1 THREAD HANG FROM THE LEFT HAND ON THE BACK AKTATTER: SO GOOD TO SEE YOU MARIE WE ARE STUDYIG THE DOUBLE CLUNY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... AKTATTER: NOW THIS IS THE "SCARY" PART mariaalcantara: jejejeje Marie Smith: I printed it out and love it! AKTATTER: WE MUST KNOW EXACTLY WHICH THREAD IS WHICH AKTATTER: GO BACK TO PHOTO 5 IF NECESSARY AKTATTER: IT IS TERRIFIC ISN'T IT! AKTATTER: KEEP A GOOD GRIP ON THE FINISHED CLUNY mariaalcantara: and re check the thread you will move.... AKTATTER: OK GOOD AKTATTER: NOTE THE POSITION OF THREAD E THAT GOES THE BALL THREAD/SH2 mariaalcantara: is hard to go back in these steps.... AKTATTER: NOW TAKE THE B THREAD OVER THE D THREAD AND RELEASE IT AKTATTER: LOL IT IS JUST AS HARD TO GO FORWARD SOMETIMES MARIA LO AKTATTER: NEXT CONTINUE TO PULL ON B THREAD AND WATCH A THREAD DISAPPEAR AKTATTER: PULL FIRMLY AND DO NOT THE THREAD TANGLE mariaalcantara: with clunies this is the hard time... AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE THE C THREAD AND PULL IT UNTIL THE B THREAD IS GONE AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE THE D THREAD AND PULL UNTIL C IS GONE AKTATTER: NOW WE ARE ON THE HONME STRETCH JUST ONE MORE PULL TO GO AKTATTER: PULL ON E (SH1) UNTIL D THREAD IS ALL GONE AKTATTER: AND IF YOU HELD YOU TONGUE JUST SO AKTATTER: YOU WILL HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WIDE CLUNY mariaalcantara: yesssssss AKTATTER: TERRIFIC! THAT WASN'T SO SCARY AFTER ALL! Marie Smith: :-D Yeah! AKTATTER: BUT WHATEVER COULD WE DO WITH THIS FAT CLUNY?? AKTATTER: AH I KNOW MAKE A ROSE! AKTATTER: AND CARMIN HAS MADE THE INSTRUCTIONS FOR THAT ALSO! Elnora: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... AKTATTER: I FELL IN LOVE WITH THIS ROSE THIS FIRST TIME I SAW IT AKTATTER: WHETHER YOU MAKE ONE OR A DOZEN ROSES, YOU NEED A BASE TO WHICH TI ANCHOR THEM AKTATTER: THE BASE SHOWN IN THE PHOTO IS A SIMPLE RING AND CHAIN AKTATTER: GET THAT PREPARED AND THEN ATTACH YOUR ROSE COLORED THREAD TO IT mariaalcantara: Hola Carmin! bienvenida.... AKTATTER: WE FOLLOW ALL THE DIRECTIONS FOR MAKING THE FAT CLUNY S BEFORE AKTATTER: CARMIN! Carmín left this message 2 days ago: HI, hola Marie Smith: Carmin wonderful instructions and the rose is beautiful! AKTATTER: CARMIN YOUR WORK IS BEAUTIFUL Carmín joined the chat 2 days ago AKTATTER: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS METHOD AND PATTERN WITH US AKTATTER: MARY JANE!! HI Carmín: thank you mjb joined the chat 2 days ago AKTATTER: WE HAVE JUST STUDIED HOW TO MAKE THE DOUBLE CLUNY CARMIN mjb: good morning., I must be late AKTATTER: AND NOW WE BEGIN THE ROSE AKTATTER: ALWAYS WELCOME MJB mjb: thanks AKTATTER: CARMIN WOULD YOU LIKE TO SAY ANYTHING ABOUT THE PATTERN? Aurora: I´m stunned with the clunny, congrat Carmin and Maria Marie Smith: Marie I am so glad you are coming to Tat Days! Carmín: sorry I was in my job...thank you!!! it was my pleasure... AKTATTER: OK WE MAKE THE ROSE NOW Marie Smith: I mean Marie! AKTATTER: WE HAVE MADE THE BASE AND ATTACHED THE ROSE-COLORED THREAD TO IT Marie Smith: I keep doing that. I mean Maria!!! AKTATTER: WE MAKE THE CLUNY AND REMEMBER TO END WITH THE HALF PASS AKTATTER: LOL AND YOU THINK YOU HAVE TROUBLE TYPING I AM STILL SO BAD AT IT AKTATTER: WHEN THE ROSE PETAL CLUNY IS DONE THEN Carmín: I did these patterns because I love roses .... AKTATTER: WE FOLD IT TO THE RIGHT SIDE AKTATTER: SKIP 2 PICOTS ON THE BASE AKTATTER: AND ATTACH THE THREAD WITH A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN TO THE BASE AKTATTER: FOLLOWING THE GREAT DIAGRAM IN STEP 16 AKTATTER: CONTINUE MAKING PETALS AND ATTACH AS NOTED AKTATTER: YOU CAN ADD PETALS AND TO GIVE IT DIMENSION AKTATTER: MAKE SOME THAT ARE SMALLER ON THE OUTED EDGE AKTATTER: ATTACH THREAD AND FINISH OFF Carmín: I try to give an effect of real wint clunies AKTATTER: IT ALL LOOKS SO SIMPLE BUT IT MAY TAKE A LITTLE PRACTICE AKTATTER: IT LOOK SO REALISTIC CARMIN mariaalcantara: sorry I am a little lost....Thank you Marie...yes I will try to be there.... Winkerbill: Carmin this is beautiful. Marie Smith: I really need practice on this. I have fallen in love with clunies all over again! The rose is so beautiful! AKTATTER: mARIA IS THER A LINK TO SOME OF CARMIN'S PHOTOS ONLINE? Carmín: Thank you.....!!!!! AKTATTER: IF ANYTHING EVER TEMPTED ME, THIS CLUNY ROSE IS IT! AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR CARMIN? mariaalcantara: She is in the spanish group.... Carmín: I hope yours are beautiful mariaalcantara: but let me ask her... Carmín: I made this roses inspred in a creochet rose a lokk at Elnora: k Marie Smith: You did a great job! Elnora: Hope I can print this discussion. Carmín: http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... Marie Smith: Thank you for sharing it! mariaalcantara: only in the spanish group...and there are 3 filming demostratios, in sapnish Carmín: http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... Carmín: http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... claudia joined the chat 2 days ago Carmín: http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... claudia: hello girls!! hi georgia!! Elnora: the site is in spanish and has a sign up Carmín: http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... AKTATTER: OH MY GOOD NESS DID YOU SEE THE PUMPKINS???? mariaalcantara: Carmin los links de los videos...por favor! claudia: hola carmin , maria!! AKTATTER: WELCOME CLAUDIA claudia: how are you geogia? Carmín: hola Winkerbill: I can't see anytting mariaalcantara: hola clau...yo como...jhajajaj mjb: where are the pumpkins? AKTATTER: OH THE WHITE CLUNY ROSES ON THE GREENDOILY Winkerbill: and I don't know where to click and Spanish.... AKTATTER: AND A POINSETTIS AKTATTER: ANTERIOR/ PROXIMA MOVES THRU THE PHOTOS Winkerbill: Can Carmin send the pictures to you Georgiaa? So you can post them? mariaalcantara: winker...look only forget the language...jajajja AKTATTER: 2 GOLDERN HEARTS WITH ROSES AKTATTER: YES i WOULD BE HAPPY TO POST THEM Winkerbill: cool! Thanks. Winkerbill: Carmin can you send these pictures to Georgia? Carmín: yes, Winkerbill: Maria, there are no pictures just a sign in page. and I don't know how or where to sign in. AKTATTER: THE OTHER ITEMS ARE LOVELY TOO CARMIN ESP THE EDGING WITH THE BUGLE BEADS Carmín: Georgia I will send you all the pictures...so every body can see them... AKTATTER: AT THE TOP SORT OF TO THE RIGHT A BOX +AGREGAR AKTATTER: OH THANKS SO MUCH CARMIN AKTATTER: YOU HAVE MADE THIS A VERY SPECIAL EVENT FOR ALL OF US AKTATTER: AND MARIA IT WOULD =NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT YOU mariaalcantara: winker, theu block the group...I think....Georgia can you talk or write to Shwasarino...please Aurora: incredible, I dont know why but i was expeled from frivolite Marie Smith: All I get is a sign in page, too mariaalcantara: jejejejej...always neer you, Winkerbill: hmmm...no word 'agregar' on that whole page. AKTATTER: SEE IF YOU CAN SEE THE PUMPKINS AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/64eoq8Ki5CoPFZ... mariaalcantara: near Winkerbill: Wow! Yes! What great pumpkins! ;-) I can see them! AKTATTER: WOW AURORA IT MUST HAVE BEEN A TECHNICAL ERROR AKTATTER: THE HEARTS AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/-XUrNtVBvTHCEG... claudia: http://api.ning.com/files/nhCMzy*WjIj9KB... Aurora: Maybe, i dont think i´ve done something wrong or inapropiated mjb: Are the pumpkins with clunies? mariaalcantara: aurora...pagaste ya? claudia: hola aurora.. no te habia visto Carmín: yes, are clunnys mjb: cute AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/bgkV4Kqp2xV7dY... Winkerbill: those are amazing! AKTATTER: PINK ROSE ON GREEN DOILY Aurora: ahhh eo no lo sabia. lo ultimo que vi fue que habian suspendido las cotizaciones Aurora: hola claudia Winkerbill: so beautiful! mariaalcantara: great G!!!!! you know how to handlle the pictures in the group....jjejeje AKTATTER: THIS IS THE EDGING WITH BUGLE BEADS AKTATTER: http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... mjb: That would be very hard to do mariaalcantara: ya no! ahora Patty cerro el grupo solo para las que paguen.... Winkerbill: oops....that went back the the sign in page AKTATTER: THIS METHOD DOESN'T ALWAYS WORK MARIA BUT IF YOU RIGHT CLICK A PHOTO IT MIGHT GIVE YOU THE CHOICE TO OPEN IN A NEW TAB Elnora: what is 10x5 in spanish? cinquenta o? AKTATTER: A NEW TAB WILL GIVE YOU THE SEPARATE LINK TO THE PHOTO mariaalcantara: G bring the other way the pictures please... Aurora: entonces bien cerrado esta y bien esta la expulsion, aunque la palabra es como fea para usarla contra un forista AKTATTER: EARRINGS AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/6cnwTubFr-CYio... Winkerbill: the new tab just gives you the smae sign in page. claudia joined the chat 2 days ago AKTATTER: PUMPKINS TRIO Winkerbill: Those earrings are lovely! AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/FtYXIe9OAkmXmD... Elnora: question upon registration site multiple ---help Elnora: of five Carmín: I will work and send you the pumpking pattern AKTATTER: HEART COLLAR Elnora: 10x5=? Aurora: I have to try these fat clunnies, look pretty nice. Marie Smith: Did not get edging with bugle beads AKTATTER: WONDERFUL CARMIN JUST THE RIGHT TINME OF YEAR FOR IT TOO mariaalcantara: yes! claudia: http://api.ning.com/files/PMqPhy8OFECDPI... AKTATTER: TRY AGAIN MARIE http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... Winkerbill: That last one just gives you the sign in page again. AKTATTER: POINSETTIA AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/rbsNx-Q42zh7Jf... claudia: wonderful works carmin!!! must try them! Winkerbill: even if you right click. Winkerbill: Those are so pretty! Carmín: lol AKTATTER: WHITE ROSE AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/2Cg4o0KBx8k7i6... Marie Smith: These are amazing Carmin! Winkerbill: We should do the poinsettia before Christmas....so there's time to make MANY of them! Elnora: I am missing everything can't get onto site so don't see a thing sorry AKTATTER: EDGING WITH BUTTEFLIES Winkerbill: Elnora try using the right click button and say 'open in new window' when it gives you a choice. AKTATTER: I WILL GET THE PHOTOS POSTED ON THE CLASS SITE FOR EVERYONE TO ENJOY Winkerbill: The ones with numbers in them probabyl will open that way. Marie Smith: Please send pic of edging with butterflies mariaalcantara: MAKE YOUR WISHES...and we will work on them....jajajajaja claudia: muy risueña maria!! jajaj.. mariaalcantara: loca!!!! diria yo Elnora: o.k. will keep trying and thank you for help AKTATTER: OK THAT IS ALL FOR NOW Carmín: thanks you!!! AKTATTER: I AM DELIGHTED THAT YOU ALL STOPPED BY claudia: se nota que vas a palmetto chicaaaa. yo estaria superloca!! jejej mariaalcantara: aqui por mensaje con carmin y en dos idiomas a la vez...imaginate! mjb: thanks you., Winkerbill: wait, wait....edging with butterflies, where is that one? AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO CARMIN AND MARIA FOR THIE HARD WORK Carmín: jajaja Aurora: Carmin mis felicitaciones, excelente trabajo con las hojas, era frustrante hacerlas tan delgaditas AKTATTER: BUTTERFLY http://api.ning.com/files/XMzDpQYpR8WrcX... Winkerbill: Thanks. ;-) Carmín: pero en la tarde estaremos juntas:D mariaalcantara: with all aour love for this art;G AKTATTER: THIS INFO WILL REPEAT AT 3 AND 8 PM TODAY NEW YORK TIME0 Winkerbill: wow that is lovely! claudia: a que hora empezaron maria? claudia: llegue tarde parece Winkerbill: Thanks Georgia....and Maria and Carmin. mariaalcantara: and we will bw together for that time... AKTATTER: ARE ANY OF YOU GOING TO TAT DAYS? mariaalcantara: a las 10 NY AKTATTER: I KNOW MARIA AND STEPH AND I WIL BE THERE Aurora: I will do my best to be at 3 again, need to repeat this class as many times as i can :)) Winkerbill: I am! and I'm so excited!!! AKTATTER: MARIE? claudia: hace una hora? mjb: no., spent my money at the convention Marie Smith: Me, too!!! AKTATTER: SAVE UP FOR NEXT YEAR BECAUSE THAT IS THE 10TH ANNIVERSARY TAT DAYS AKTATTER: GREAT!! AKTATTER: IT LOOKS TO BE A GREAT EVENT AGAIN! Carmín: gracias aurora AKTATTER: OK THEN BYE FOR NOW Marie Smith: My granddaughter Violet will be there, too. She is 10! Carmín: por eso las hicee gordas AKTATTER: GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL AGAIN AKTATTER: HAPPY TATTING Carmín: Clunnys Gordos CG Aurora: No hay de que, gracias a ti por la dedicacion y la generosidad mariaalcantara: carmin te espero antes de las 2..por fa...Clau, que gusto! Aurora animo! Carmín: ok, Marie Smith: Enjoyed the class. See you are 3, I hope! mariaalcantara: G I sen d you pdf corrected in a few minutes... Carmín: nos quedamos toda la tarde juntas, hasta la clase de las 8 Marie Smith: at 3!! I better put my glasses on. mariaalcantara: BY Marie Carmín: bye Winkerbill: Have a lovely day/evening/whatever time it is where you are. Bye everyone. Winkerbill left the chat 2 days ago »The Online Tatting Class« Visible contents as of 19 Aug 2011 13:50 UTC-05:00 (265 KB) Page 2 of 6 · Char 51267 to 102427 · Newest posts at the bottom Marie Smith: Bye Maria! mariaalcantara: in Mexico we are ! hour back.... mariaalcantara: 1 hour Aurora: Bye Carmin cuidate y se feliz Marie Smith: Bye Steph! Carmín: gracias Aurora: Bya Maria Marie Smith: Bye Carmin and Aurora Aurora: Bye Winker mariaalcantara: chicas ...renuncio!... Aurora: Bye Marie Carmín: jajaja Aurora: renuncias? mariaalcantara: Bye Winker.. Aurora: A que? Carmín: no hasta las 10 Carmín: de la noche Elnora: glad I made it to class today. It has been great. Marie Smith: Bye Elnora and Claudia mariaalcantara: aurora...a ser traductora de frivo Carmín: bye Winker claudia: volvi mariaalcantara: Thank Eleanora... Aurora: jajaaja yes, it´s hard to translate and explain mariaalcantara: que bueno clau!!! Carmín: thank Eleanora Elnora: Bye everyone, Really enjoyed this class. Now to try the clunies. mariaalcantara: take class and send massages... Aurora: maria, sabes que podria lucir mejor en las fotos? mariaalcantara: in 2 languages at the same time claudia: nos vemos en un rato.. estoy confundida en el horario.. jaja Aurora: usar hilo blanco y fondo negro, se podria distinguir mucho mejor los hilos mariaalcantara: carmin tomo las fotos....si....el fondo debe ser mas contrastante...mi marido me lo dijo Carmín: you stay beautuful mariaalcantara: pero la realidad es que no nos dio tiempo de cambiar fotos... Aurora: ya, se pierden los hilos y es dificil saber cual es cual Shanan joined the chat 2 days ago Carmín: bueno no sabía esos tecnicismos Aurora: aun asi es un gran trabajo, se lucieron mariaalcantara: eso espero.... claudia: estuvo muy bien carmin.. no es facil estar aca y dar la clase.. yo lo se.. Aurora: Carmin, como todo, se aprende y de eso trata la experiencia mariaalcantara: por experiencia!!!! jajajaja Carmín: :p jijiji Carmín: Ü mariaalcantara: pero ya salimos de la primer clase...nos falta 2 claudia: entonces.. es en 3 horas la proxima clase? Aurora: si, la experiencia es siempre lo que sacas en limpio cuando fallas Carmín: si Carmín: a las 2 mariaalcantara: 3 NY....no se como conviertes... Carmín: hora méxico Aurora: 9 pm hora de españa mariaalcantara: hoy abra 3 clases y ya estoy cansada... Carmín: bueno faltan 2 claudia: jajaj.. entrenamiento para palmeto maria.. claudia: jejej Aurora: bueno, niñas las dejo, las viejitas necesitamos descansar el esqueleto mariaalcantara: si....pero ahi voy de alumna! Carmín: ok mariaalcantara: cuidate Aurora! claudia: igual!!! Aurora: Bye, see you later, remember, dont worry and be happy mariaalcantara: y esta complicandose el asunto $$$$$ claudia: usas skype maria? mariaalcantara: deberia ir a pagar el boleto....asi que debo comenzar a correr"!!!!! mariaalcantara: creo que si.....deja checar Carmín: tienes tantas cosas en esa maquina claudia: chau aurora .. nos vemos mas tarde.. si san internet quiere! mariaalcantara: siiiiiii mariaalcantara: ya lo abri....ahora que? Carmín: jajaja Carmín: ahora ya se fue Carmín: jajajaja claudia: como figuras? claudia: yo cloandme.. agregame mariaalcantara: estoy aquiiiiii checando y cerrando paginas que mi maquina esta hecha paginitas!!! Carmín: voy a seguir trabajando mariaalcantara: mariaflamenca2 Carmín: te veo en un rato Mary, te caigo en tu casa claudia: te busco mariaalcantara: llamame tengo que ir a pagar mi boleto de avion...creo! mariaalcantara: ok..... Carmín: ok Carmín: te marco Carmín: bye claudia: esta lento esto claudia: chau carmin mariaalcantara: si mariaalcantara: no se deja abrir... claudia: tengo abierto el skype pero te esta buscando todavia.. estas escondida.. jaja mariaalcantara: como te busco.... mariaalcantara: necesito microfono? claudia: cloandme claudia: si claudia: o solo por chat claudia: cierro aca y te busco alla.. Aurora was timed out 2 days ago terryM left this message 2 days ago: but I can't speak or understand spanish. Oh well terryM joined the chat 2 days ago Riet de B-engel joined the chat 2 days ago Riet de B-engel: Hi Every body GinaS joined the chat 2 days ago GinaS: Riet are you still here? GinaS: or you Claudia? Cynthia joined the chat 2 days ago Cynthia: Hi is anyone still here? Cynthia: I see lily, Gina and claudia.... Cynthia: brb getting something to drink--tea...LOL claudia joined the chat 2 days ago claudia: hi there claudia: hi cynthia, lily, gina! GinaS: hi clauda and Cynthia Cynthia: Hi Claudia how are you ntoday? I'm doing fine...1 meadllion and 2 rows of edging to go and the hat will be done! GinaS: dang slow chatzy GinaS: I'm uploading my cluny! I made one! Cynthia: awesome...can hardly wait to see your work... Cynthia: the edging will be split rings...row 1 orange and raspberry and row 2 blue and purply lilac...Thinking about alternating sides with the colors...your thoughts? still 2 rows tho GinaS: its taking forever GinaS: well its not very good GinaS: but at least I made one! Cynthia: you are ahead of me! I haven't made one yet... claudia: i dont practice these clunies yet claudia: but they are awesome GinaS: supposedly it is uploading GinaS: you guys have never made a cluny? claudia: i have made clunnies and lately hanging clunies too but simple claudia: need much practice GinaS: the edging of the hat will be split rings? Cynthia: me either claudia...they are intimidating but I keep remembering the darling little old lady (I was 16 she was 80 something) who patted me on the shoulder and said "dear remember you are smarter than the yarn." I was having difficulty with adding a color in knitting... claudia: that is true ! northern robin joined the chat 2 days ago Cynthia: yes it shows just plain rings but I want to do the 4 colors not just 1 and the green that I would use is down to about 2 yards...I know it will take more than that!! Cynthia: Hi Robin northern robin: hi don't know if I weill stay but wanted to visit claudia: but sometimes we have troubles with the yarn!! lol northern robin: i have made one cuny claudia: hi robin northern robin: with an aid northern robin: canot imagine just using my hands GinaS: ho robin northern robin: pping them stiff that long GinaS: I am trying to upload the picture of my cluny Cynthia: how true...claudia...I learned the technique for adding a color and the sweaters came out nice... GinaS: I used the star plastic canvas thingie claudia: good!! Cynthia: I don't know how on chatzy but I know AK can add them.... claudia: at last we will win the fight!! Cynthia: Robin they only had a single when I went to get the star shapes...I keep looking and they have had them but they sell out fast... GinaS: a single what? GinaS: can't get the dang picture to upload Cynthia: packages of single star shapes not the packages of 10 or so they used to carry...and will get more when it gets closer to Christmas....right now they only get the single stars not the packages of 10 :( GinaS: it gets about halfway and quits GinaS: oh they only had single ones when I got mine too GinaS: I only got one northern robin: I used something els northern robin: a thing for making flowers with yarn northern robin: it worked..sort of Aurora joined the chat 2 days ago claudia: hola aurora Aurora: hello everybody Cynthia: glad you were able to find something else...that would work. I've seen them and wondered if it would work...didn't get the courage to try Aurora: HAPPYBIRTHDAY ROBIN Cynthia: Hola Aurora welcoma to the room northern robin: oh thanks Aurora: Hello Cyn :D Great to see you Aurora: and Gina :) northern robin: Aurora...you are the teacher today? Cynthia: I'm so glad Georgia is up to doing this class.... GinaS: hi Aurora Aurora: who me? nooo, it´s maria and carmin picotsnkeys joined the chat 47 hours ago picotsnkeys: Hi all! northern robin: oh GinaS: hi melanie Aurora: hello Mel :D claudia: hi mel northern robin: hi Mel picotsnkeys: happy birthday Robin! Cynthia: the beginners class will be doing a special event the 25th...bring your favorite heart pattern to share or one you need help with...links will be needed Aurora: hola claudia, ahora si que estas a tiempo claudia: it is your birthday robn? Aurora: the 25th is my birthday claudia: si.. ahora si llegue.. northern robin: I am 61! ugh northern robin: special even on your BD too picotsnkeys: let me go catch up to what's been said....brb Aurora: no robin, you´ve written it bad, You´re 16 yy GinaS: finally https://picasaweb.google.com/11233536610... northern robin: well I do have a habit of reversing numbers GinaS: there is my ugly cluny northern robin: t must have been what happened Aurora: hi gina, how are your puppies? GinaS: I didn't know it was your birthday robin! GinaS: happy birthday :) GinaS: oh they are fat and happy :) GinaS: they are starting to make little baby growling and barking noises GinaS: its so cute Aurora: :)) northern robin: thanks, I think...blueberry pie tonight from wild Maine blueberries picotsnkeys: back GinaS: wb melanie Aurora: yummy Aurora: wb mel northern robin: yeah picotsnkeys: nice cluny Gina GinaS: cleo is a good mom dog northern robin: my son is making it..his crust is excellent northern robin: Gina..that is a good cluny for a first try..looks about lime mine picotsnkeys: my kids prefer pie over birthday cake also!!!!! Cynthia: Fantastic GINA!!!!!!!!!! Cynthia: Hi Melanie you snuck in on me.... GinaS: its uneven and lumpy Aurora: I dont know what´s happening but cant see the pic northern robin: like everything else it gets better with practice Cynthia: clkick on the link Aurora... GinaS: its here Aurora https://picasaweb.google.com/11233536610... Aurora: anyway I´ve not been able to make the hand loom, need to practice a lot northern robin: I never got around to making another GinaS: I made the "loom" out of the plastic canvas star shape northern robin: me neither..with the finger loom picotsnkeys: I succeeded in making a rather tough one yesterday. I LOVE the rose pattern and really want to make it!!!!! Cynthia: Now I have to get going....and learn how to do them.... GinaS: but luckily enough I didn't get any knots when I was pulling the top and bottom threads Aurora: It´s a very good clunny Gina. GinaS: the thread slid along very nicely picotsnkeys: I used a plastic canvas star also AKTATTER joined the chat 47 hours ago AKTATTER: hello all! Cynthia: Hi AK Awesome to have you with us picotsnkeys: HI AK GinaS: hi Georgia, how are you?????? Aurora: G said that the loom would need to be modified picotsnkeys: glad to see you back!! claudia: hi g! now im on time! Aurora: Hello G mariaalcantara joined the chat 47 hours ago Cynthia: and Hi Maria.... GinaS: the star loom? claudia: hola mariaaaaaaaaaaaa Aurora: yes, gina GinaS: it worked okay for me the way it was in the diagram Aurora: Hi Maria, we were waiting for teachers :D GinaS: hi maria :) GinaS: I mean I cut it like the diagram showed GinaS: and it worked Aurora: which diagram? I have the old one for the normal clunny Cynthia: now I must get courageous.... GinaS: the only problem was the center thread was higher than the two side threads GinaS: they weren't all on the same level AKTATTER: I am doing just fine Aurora: Gina, which diagram? northern robin: that 3 d rose is awesome AKTATTER: Maria I see the revised pdf, I will go upload it now brb GinaS: I thought about snipping another row out of the V at the top, but I thought that might ruin it GinaS: this one Aurora http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/patclun... Aurora: ok, that´s the one i have claudia: ok Cynthia: brb Aurora: Georgia, can you repeat what you told us about the mod of the looms? GinaS: I cut my star following that and it came out okay picotsnkeys: I did modify my star and it worked well. The petal was nice and wide with the extra slits GinaS: the only problem was I had to push the center thread down on every other row GinaS: modify it how? picotsnkeys: with the extra slits Aurora: that´s it Mel picotsnkeys: I added another slit on the left side so that I had 5 threads for the "warp" Aurora: but i didnt understand where the others slits should go Aurora: be picotsnkeys: maybe I'm just confusing things though GinaS: extra slits for what? northern robin: plastic star loom picotsnkeys: you know.....makes sense when you say it to yourself, but doesn't look that clear when you type it ;( GinaS: I guess I'd need to see a picture or something Aurora: the fat clunny is done with 5 threads instead of three GinaS: what fat cluny? picotsnkeys: I'll try to get a pic after class northern robin: our special class is for a double cluny AKTATTER: ok give it a minute and the corrected version will be up AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... Aurora: :)) Sorry, long ordouble clunny northern robin: its fatter GinaS: okay thanks :) claudia: ok mariaalcantara joined the chat 47 hours ago picotsnkeys: lol my brain corrected the other one automatically lol GinaS: wb maria claudia: hola de nuevo maria mariaalcantara: Hi all girls...once more!!!! sorry a little trouble mariaalcantara: estas maquinas!!!! Aurora: Gina, today class is about an special clunny, it´s fatter than the one we use to do AKTATTER: WHEN I CUT MYM LOOM I HAS 6 SLOTS AT THE TOP mariaalcantara: have you sign? northern robin: maria..I wondered why you were so quiet! Aurora: usuarios, siempre echandole la culpa a las pobrecitas maquinas, claudia: no todavia mariaalcantara: jajajaja sip Aurora: G do you have a pic of your loom with 6 slits? AKTATTER: NOT YET Aurora: ohh picotsnkeys: my double cluny loom has 6 slots also with an extra one off to the right side for the second pinky thread AKTATTER: BATTERY IS CHARGING AKTATTER: THAT IS GREAT MEL mariaalcantara: northen robin.......jajajajaja Aurora: Mel, pic? AKTATTER: OK SO LET'S REVIEW A BIT FIRST picotsnkeys: not yet....didn't think about it until after I loaded my second attempt GinaS: okay AKTATTER: SINCE THIS IS A 5 THREAD CLUNY LOOM AKTATTER: OUR LOOM NEEDS EXTRA SLOTS GinaS: why is the thread wrapped around the pinky twice? picotsnkeys: I'll try to take a pic after I finish, or abandon, my second attempt AKTATTER: REMEMBER THE PLASTIC START LOOM AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/patclun... Aurora: I´m lost, so long with out tatting has made me .... mariaalcantara: G Carmin just get in...sohere we are ready.. AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT PHOTO 2 STEP 5, PINKY SHOULD BE RING FINGER, THE CORRECTED PDF HAS JUST BEEN POSTED AKTATTER: COPRRECTED COPY = http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... Marie Smith joined the chat 47 hours ago AKTATTER: OK WELCOME CARMIN AND EVERYONE AKTATTER: WB MARIE AKTATTER: SO IF YOU ARE MAKING THE LOOM REMEMBER THE EXTRA SLOTS Marie Smith: Long time no see! AKTATTER: NOW THE DOUBLE CLUNY CAN BE MADE WITH AKTATTER: THE NEEDLE OR THE SHUTTLE AKTATTER: JUST LIKE NORMAL CLUNY AKTATTER: BASICS FOR NORMAL CLUNY AKTATTER: NEEDLE http://needledreams.tripod.com/clunnylea... GinaS: I don' t understand what I'm looking for in the pdf AKTATTER: SHUTTLE http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art3... AKTATTER: GINA LOOK AT THE PHOTOS THE SECOND PICTURE AKTATTER: PICTURE #2 TO THE RIGHT IS STEP 5 AKTATTER: CHANGE THE WORD PINKY (C) TO RING FINGER (C) AKTATTER: OK?? GinaS: I see the second picture claudia: - picotsnkeys: k GinaS: 3 pinky GinaS: 4 index AKTATTER: GREAT NOW SEE THE #5 ON THE RIGHT? GinaS: 5 ring AKTATTER: RIGHT AKTATTER: OK EVERYONE READY TO START?? AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE PRACTICING THIS YOU WILL WANT TO MAKE A RING/CHAIN OR SOMETHING TO WHICH TO HOLD Cynthia: I think I am....I think I am....lol AKTATTER: THE END OF THE LAST TATTED ELEMENT IS THE PINCHING POINT AKTATTER: GREAT! AKTATTER: LOOK NOW AT PHOTO 1 AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE THE PINCH AKTATTER: AND THE SH2/BALL THREAD IS USED TO MAKE THE LOOM ON THE LEFT HAND AKTATTER: BRING THE SH2 THREAD AROUND THE MIDDLE FINGER AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: PHOTO 2 AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE THE SH2 THREAD AROUND THE PINKY (LITTLE FINGER) AKTATTER: ANDBACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE THE SH2 THREAD AROUND THE RING FINGER AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: THAT IS #5 BE SURE TO MARK THE CORRECTION OR PRINT OUT THE NEW PDF AKTATTER: NEXT LOOK AT PHOTO #3 AKTATTER: TAKE THE SH2/BALLTHREAD AROUND THE PINKY AGAIN AKTATTER: AND BACK TO THE PINCHING POINT. AKTATTER: ,,,, EARLIER SOMEONE ASKED WHY WE WRAP THE PINKY TWICE?? claudia: - GinaS: yes AKTATTER: I DONT KNOW THIS IS TOO NEW TO ME TO HAVE A GOOD ANSWER, BUT REMEMBER THE LOOP WE LEAV HANGING DOWN IN THE REGULAR CLUNY? THIA MAY BE THAT EXTRA THREAD AKTATTER: MARIA/CARMIN DO YOU HAVE A QUICK ANSWER FOR US?? AKTATTER: IF NOT DON'T WORRY... mariaalcantara: to let the thread be tighten picotsnkeys: makes sense to me AKTATTER: OK GREAT Cynthia: or is it we need 5 pairs of threads to make it wider.... AKTATTER: AS WE DO THIS SOME MORE THE MECHANISM WILL BE CLEARER FOR US AKTATTER: NOW LOOK AT PHOTO 4 picotsnkeys: without the second pinky loop, it would be much more difficult to pull the correct thread to close up the loom AKTATTER: IF IT IS WRAPPED CORRECTLY YOUR LOOM SHOULD MATCH THE PHOTO AKTATTER: THERE IS ONE MORE STEP AKTATTER: YES \I THINK THAT IS IT MEL AKTATTER: WE MUST STUDY THE PHOTO 5 mariaalcantara: no Cyn...in this case we required 5 threads, but not one of these AKTATTER: THERE IS ONE MORE THREAD NEEDED AKTATTER: TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD AND PASS IT BETWEEN THE INDEX AND MIDDLE FINGER AKTATTER: AND LET IT HANG OUT ONTHE FAR SIDE Cynthia: I haven't conquered clunies so it was more a question than an answer GinaS: do you weave over both pinky threads? AKTATTER: JUST LIKE THE BALL THREAD SITS OUT AWAY FROM THE WORK IN NORMAL CLUNY AKTATTER: THE WEAVING REQUIRES A STRICT ORDER SO WE COME TO TI IN A MOMENT mariaalcantara: we use them to create a compleat loom, and close it easyly AKTATTER: BE SURE YOU KNOW WHERE THE THREADS ARE A , E, C, B, D picotsnkeys: when I use the plastic loom, I loop the final ball/shuttle thread around the top between a couple of slots to hold it more taut. This wouldn't be a problem using the hand loom, just with the plastic loom AKTATTER: BUT WHEN WE GO TO BEGIN THE WEAVE AKTATTER: LOOK AGAIN AT THE THREADS claudia: - AKTATTER: A B C D E AKTATTER: TAKE THE SH1/NEEDLE AND BEGIN A PASS mariaalcantara: picotsnkeys....you will required both pinky threads...after...wait a little please AKTATTER: A PASS MEANS A TRIP FROM THE RIGHT TO THE LEFT TO THE RIGHT = 1 PASS AKTATTER: BRING SH1 UNDER THREADS E, C , AND A AKTATTER: GOING OVER THREADS D AND B AKTATTER: COMPLETE THE PASS FROM LEFT TO RIGHT BY picotsnkeys: so between picture 5 and picture 6 the threads have been renamed? AKTATTER: BY GOING UNDER THREAD B AND D GinaS: ok i have 6 threads AKTATTER: AND OVER THREADS E C AND A AKTATTER: THAT COMPLETES A FULL PASS GinaS: middle=2 ring=2 pinky=2 AKTATTER: YES MEL IT LOOKED THAT WAY TO ME picotsnkeys: ty mariaalcantara: why you get 2 in the ring? GinaS: one on each side of my finger mariaalcantara: 1.- middle 2 pinky 3 ring 4 pinky GinaS: ok where it wraps ring there is 1 thread each side of finger mariaalcantara: haaaa...but we only count like one in each finger! GinaS: i don't understand AKTATTER: AH OK THAT MAKES SENSE SO TWO THREADS TREATED AS IF ONE THREAD AKTATTER: IT MAKES 5 PAIRS OF THREADS FOR THE LOOM THEN Cynthia: Gina the 2 halves equals 1 or in pairs AKTATTER: NOW WE CONTINUE TO WEAVE THE PASSES mariaalcantara: in that way of count : 2 in middle 2 ring and 4 in pinky AKTATTER: YOU CAN SHAPE THE CLUNY AS YOU WANT, SKINNY, FAT, ROUND, POINTED OT BLUNT AT THE ENDS AKTATTER: BUT GENRALLY SMALLER AT POINT LARGE IN MIDDLE AND SMALER AT POINT AGAIN AKTATTER: USE THE POINT OF THE SHUTTLE OR A CROCHET HOOK GinaS: i still don't get it mariaalcantara: Ginayou got it? AKTATTER: TO PRESS THE WEAVING THREADS DOWN TO THE POINT AKTATTER: GINA WHEN YOU TAKE THE SH1 AROUND THE MIDDLE FINGER THERE IS A THREAD ON BOTH SIDES OF THE FINGER mariaalcantara: firs put the thread thru the middle finget, that will give you 2 threads there... AKTATTER: BUT IN THE WEAVING OF THE CLUNY THOSE TWO THREADS = 1 THREAD Marie joined the chat 47 hours ago AKTATTER: NOW WHILE YOU ARE WEAVING THE SH2/BALL THREAD IS HANGING OUT BEYOND THE LEFT HAND AKTATTER: BE SURE TO WHAT THE TENSION ON THAT THREAD Marie: Wow! I had a time getting back mariaalcantara: Hi Marie! AKTATTER: IT MAY TANGLE OR KNOT UP AKTATTER: WB MARIE AKTATTER: HELLO NINA Marie: Chatsy said someone was already using my name. It was me! GinaS: hi Marie nstitcher joined the chat 47 hours ago GinaS: I must be doing something wrong as it iis not working AKTATTER: LOL IF THAT HAPPENS AGAIN, MARIE GO TO THE SIGN IN PAGE AND AT TOP RIGHT CLICK ONLOGOUT THEN COME BACK AND LOG IN AGAIN nstitcher: hello everyone Marie: Hi Gine and all! Shanan joined the chat 47 hours ago AKTATTER: GINA TI WIL L TAKE SOME TIME AKTATTER: WELCOME SHANAN mariaalcantara: Gina start the loom once more...please Shanan: wow look at all the tatters!! picotsnkeys: hang in there Gina...set it aside for a moment, pet a puppy and then come back to it :) Shanan: Hi G! AKTATTER: SO WHEN MAKING THE PASSES, THE DIRECTIONS ASK THAT WE END WITH THE SHUTTLE ON THE LEFT AKTATTER: THAT MEANS THE LAST PASS IS ONLY HALF A PASS, JUST RIGHT TO LEFT AND STOP GinaS: 1 says put the thread between the index and pinky... how do you do that? AKTATTER: WHAT STEP NUMBER GINA?? mariaalcantara: gina do you know haw to do a normal cluny?? Aurora: it´s between index and ring fingers GinaS: because it shows the index and middle finger in the picture GinaS: step 1 Aurora: sorry, middle :)) AKTATTER: OH OK, FORGET INDEX AND PINKY WORDS GinaS: so how to wrap step 1? mariaalcantara: the thread wraps each finger..... AKTATTER: GRASP SH2/BALL THREAD WRAP AROUND THE MIDDLE FINGER AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: STEP 3 TAKE SH2THREAD AROUND THE PINKY AND BACK TO THE PINCH mariaalcantara: and get bach to the pinch=base point dagmar joined the chat 47 hours ago AKTATTER: STEP 5 TAKE SH2 THREAD AROUND THE RING FINGER AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: WELCOME DAGMAR!! mariaalcantara: step 1 Gina is only to hold the thread... dagmar: hi to all dagmar: hi Georgia AKTATTER: STEP 7 TAKE SH2 THREAD AROUND PINKY (SECOND TIME) AND BACK TO THE PINCH Aurora: Hello Dagmar, nice to see you AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... mariaalcantara: Hi Dagmara! claudia: hi dagmar AKTATTER: SO YOU HAVE WRAPPED 4 TIMES AROUND THE SEPARATE FINGERS SO IT LOOKS LIKE 8 THREADS AKTATTER: THE FIFTH THREAD IS SH2/BALLTHREAD WHICH GOES BETWEEN INDEX ANDMIDDLE FINGER AND HANGS OUT BEYOND THE LEFT HAND GinaS: that makes 6 warp threads dagmar: Newbie. How are you mariaalcantara: Sorry Gina it has to say index and thumb... Shanan: I'm a bit late and trying to catch up with the class, lol AKTATTER: OK WE AER GOING TO HAVE TO CREATE A LOOM AND WRAP IT SO WE WILL NEED A PHOTO TO SHOW THIS claudia: - AKTATTER: BUT GINA YOU UNDERSTAND THAT THE PURPOSE IS TO CREATE EXTRA THREADS FOR THE LOOM AKTATTER: TO MAKE THE CLUNY BIGGER? Aurora: I need that loom, I cant manage so many threads AKTATTER: OK SO WE COMPLETE THE PASSES GinaS: but it has 6 threads AKTATTER: WE END WITH THE SH1 ON THE LEFT SO JUST 1/2 PASS AKTATTER: I HAVE 5 SETS OF THREADS ON MINE..... WE WILL WORK ONIT MORE GINA picotsnkeys: to understand correctly--we ignore the thread around the pinky finger when wrapping our passes? mariaalcantara: at the end you will have 9 threads,....gina that is not significan...you will realy will use 5 of them, the rest is to get a usefull loom. AKTATTER: NO THERE ARE ONLY 4 SETS OF THREAD ANDONE THREAD BY ITSELF AKTATTER: THAT'S RIGHT 9 THREADS GinaS: 9? mariaalcantara: the way you count them... AKTATTER: OK LET'S GO ON TO COMPLETE THE CLUNY AKTATTER: FOR ME THIS IS THE SCARY PART Aurora: pulling the threads AKTATTER: BE SURE TO RECOGNIE WHICH THREAD IS WHICH , A B C D E GinaS: here is mie - one on each side of middle, one on each side of ring, 2 on each side of pinky but as far as i can tell they are used togrther AKTATTER: HOLD THE FINISHED CLUNY FIRMLY AKTATTER: IDENTIFY THREAD E GinaS: it is not clear in the pictures AKTATTER: IDENTIFY THREAD D GinaS: i have a b c d e f AKTATTER: NEXT FINS THREAD B AND PULL IT OVER THREAD D AND LET IT DANGLE AKTATTER: NEXT PULL ON THREAD B UNTIL THE A THREAD IS GONE mariaalcantara: no...gina you need 4 in the pinky and the one show in picture#5 AKTATTER: NOW FIND THE C THREAD AND PULL ON IT UNTIL B IS GONE AKTATTER: NEXT FIND THE D THREAD AND PULL ON IT UNTIL C THREAD DISAPPEARS AKTATTER: THEN FIND THE E THREAD (SH2/BALL THREAD) AND PULL AKTATTER: ON IT UNTIL D THREAD IS GONE AKTATTER: AND IF ALL WORKED WELL YOU HVE A CLUNY GinaS: the lettering changes between pic 5 and 6 AKTATTER: RIGHT picotsnkeys: these letters are the ones used in pic 5? AKTATTER: SO THIS IS WHY WE STUDY OUR WAY THROUGH THE PATTERNS TO FIND THE AKTATTER: PLACES WHICH ARE NOT CLEAR AND IT MAKE IT BETTER AKTATTER: THIS IS REALLY A GREAT JOB ON EXPLAINING A NEW METHOD TO US picotsnkeys: I'm so excited.......I smell a rose in the making!!!!!! AKTATTER: AND MARIA DID A GREA T JOB WITH THEN ENGLISH TOO picotsnkeys: thank you Carmin and Maria!! GinaS: I give up, I must be really stupid AKTATTER: SHALL WE TALK THROUGH THE ROSE AND THEN COME BACK »The Online Tatting Class« Visible contents as of 19 Aug 2011 13:50 UTC-05:00 (265 KB) Page 3 of 6 · Char 102428 to 153610 · Newest posts at the bottom AKTATTER: NO PROBLEM GINA DON'T GET FRUSTRATED IT WAS HARD FOR ME TOO Aurora: Gina, dont say that, I cant do it either, but we will AKTATTER: I HAD TO ASK SO MANY QUESTIONS THIS MORNING picotsnkeys: I have a couple of questions on the rose that you may answer as we go through the pattern GinaS: if I don' tunderstand it how can I do it? mariaalcantara: yes picture 4 shows all the threads and picture 5 only the ones you will use to creat the cluny Cynthia: Gina YOU are NOT stupid..... claudia: - AKTATTER: WE JUST HAVE TO GO THROUGH TI AGAIN picotsnkeys: I agree!! Gina in NOT stupid!!! mariaalcantara: Cyn????? what happend Cynthia: we will cross paths with someone at Tat Days and they will show us and the lights will go on!!!! mariaalcantara: Gina is only trying to understand...so why this word? Aurora: Gina, we dont understand it now. but we need to try and try till understand that´s all GinaS: the letters on the pictures are not the same from one picture to another Cynthia: sorry Maria I hit the caps...also I don't like the word "stupid" either we are all smarter than the thread...we can do this....even me....I keep trying...and the pictures with the changes in the lettering don't help...at least it seems to me the lettering changes too GinaS: and I feel stupid because obviously I'm the only one that doesn't get it picotsnkeys: yes, that's a good way to show we don't create the loom and wrap the passes using the same order of threads mariaalcantara: here are some videos links.....if you don´t speack spanish dont worry .,,,,look AKTATTER GINA LOOK AT THIS PHOTO PLEASE mariaalcantara: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBVRM0VzSs Cynthia: Gina can do a single cluny and I haven't mastered it yet....or even conquered it//// Aurora: Gina I dont get it either. And this is my second class mariaalcantara: that one is to meke roses#1 terryM joined the chat 46 hours ago GinaS: that is a 3 thread waerp for a cluny GinaS: I can do that mariaalcantara: and a little after it will show how to do the cluny AKTATTER: OK WHAT YOU HAVE TO THINK ABOUT IS THAT WE NEED MORE THREADS mariaalcantara: clase frivolite rosas 1.AVI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBVRM0VzSs AKTATTER: WE WANT 5 THREADS FOR THIS LOOM terryM: A single cluny is about all I plan to attempt. AKTATTER: SO LET'S THINKN IT THROUGH AKTATTER: THE FIRST PIN = MIDDLE FINGER AKTATTER: GO AROUND THE PIN AND STRAIGHT BACK TO THE PINCH claudia: - mariaalcantara: clase rosas frivolite 2.AVI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfX9AS2Qc8I AKTATTER: NOW WE NEED A PIN ON THE FAR RIGHT TO BE THE PINKY FINGER AKTATTER: SO TAKE THE THREAD ARONUD THE PINKY PIN AND AKTATTER: BACK DOWN TO THE PINCH mariaalcantara: clase rosas frivolite 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_p9i86L9CQ AKTATTER: WE NEED A PIN TO BE THE RING FINGER BETWEN THESE FIRST TWO PINS AKTATTER: SO TAKE THE THREAD AROUND THE RING FINGER PIN AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: NEXT WE NEED AN ADDITIONAL THREAD TO GO AROUND THE PINKY PIN AKTATTER: FOR A SECOND TIME, DO THAT AND BACK TO TH EPINCH AKTATTER: SO IF YOU COUNT THE THREADS WRAPPED AROUND OUT FINGER PINS AKTATTER: WE HAVE 8 THREADS AKTATTER: WE NEED ONEMORE THREAD ncmomftbragg joined the chat 46 hours ago ncmomftbragg: hello strangers terryM: I ran out of fingers nstitcher: have to leave now later ncmomftbragg: annette_mclaurin@yahoo.c om/USA-NC/Shuttle GinaS: she is not using the pinky threads at all Cynthia: bye nina picotsnkeys: Hi Annette! AKTATTER: SO PUT A PIN TO THE LEFT OF THE MIDDLE FINGER/PIN ncmomftbragg: I'm back!! ncmomftbragg: and late, lol GinaS: in the video AKTATTER: WRAP THE SH2 THREAD AROUND IT AND LEFT IT LAY TO THE FAR SIDE Aurora: wb ncmomftbragg ncmomftbragg: thx AKTATTER: LIKE THE SHUTTLE THAT EDWIGE HAS PROPPED OUT OF THE WAY ON THE CUSHION mariaalcantara joined the chat 46 hours ago AKTATTER: LOL TERRY AKTATTER: OK GINA DID ANY OF THAT HELP?? GinaS: she does not wrap the thread around the pinky threads GinaS: that is not clear in the photos at all, to me terryM: do you wrap from left to right or does it not matter? AKTATTER: EDWIGE OR CARMIN? AKTATTER: I DID LEFT TO RIGHT TO WRAP THE LOOM mariaalcantara: we don´t use the pinky threads GinaS: you should explain that in the directions dagmar: k AKTATTER: GINA DO YOU REMEMBER THAT THE REGULAR CLUNY HAS A LOOP THAT DANGLES DONW BELOW THE PINCH?? mariaalcantara: to creat the the cluny, we use them to creat the loom AKTATTER: ANY WAY THAT GIES YOU THE SLACK TO PULL THE LOOPS OUT LATER TO CLOSE THE CLUNY terryM: Ah, the moment of truth Shanan: I'mgoing to have to try this later. I can do a reg cluny without my hand cramping, but I think Ineed a loom for this, lol. AKTATTER: WE WILL WORK TO REFINE THE DIRECTIONS AND MAKE SOME MORE PHOTOS picotsnkeys: me too Shanan AKTATTER: ME TOO SHANAN I HAD TO HAVE A LOOM I MARVEL THAT CARMIN COULD DO TI O N HER HAND AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE ROSE mariaalcantara: there are the 3 videos adresses AKTATTER: OH PLEASE SHARE THEM MARIA mariaalcantara: once more here I go... mariaalcantara: clase frivolite rosas 1.AVI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBVRM0VzSs mariaalcantara: clase rosas frivolite 2.AVI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfX9AS2Qc8I mariaalcantara: clase rosas frivolite 3 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_p9i86L9CQ Shanan: G if your hubby can come up with a wooden loom, I would drive down and buy it! That way I could visit too, lol mariaalcantara: she explain the roses, but includes the cluny tooo AKTATTER: OK BOOKMARK THOSE LINKS mariaalcantara: there are in spanish, but you can look at them and will help... AKTATTER: HE IS WORKING ON IT BUT HAD A HARD TIME WITH THE WOOD SPLITTING AKTATTER: THE ROSE PATTERN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... Shanan: hmmm picotsnkeys: I like the thought of holding wood :) Shanan: lol Shanan: hahahahaha picotsnkeys: much nicer than plastic canvas :)) terryM: I just got 2 new David Reed Smith shuttles. I LOVE the sound of those shuttles. AKTATTER: OK WE WILL STUDY THOSE VIDEOS TOO THANKS SO MUCH Cynthia joined the chat 46 hours ago AKTATTER: HIS WORK IS WONDERFUL AKTATTER: OK THE ROSE picotsnkeys: all is clear to me in the rose pattern until step 15 on page 3 AKTATTER: ONCE WE CONQUER THE DOUBLE CLUNY WE MUST USE IT! Shanan: I would think a wooden loom would be more sturdy and last longer too Cynthia: When your DH gets the problems solved let us know...I bet there will be a lot of requests.... AKTATTER: WE NEED A BASE TO WHICH TO ATTACH OUR CLUNY ROSE AKTATTER: OK WILL DO! AKTATTER: A PATTERN IS GIVEN WHICH IS A SIMPLE RING AND CHAIN AKTATTER: BUT AS YOU CAN SEE HERE AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/bgkV4Kqp2xV7dY... GinaS: if I make more slits in the top off the star, do I need to make more slits in the bottom? AKTATTER: THE ROSES CAN ATTACH TO ANYTHING!!!! AKTATTER: ONLY ONE SLIT NEED IN BOTTOM IF BIG ENOUGH TO HOLD SEVERAL THREADS AKTATTER: ONCE THE BASE IS DONE AKTATTER: THEN ATTACH THE ROSE-COLORED THREAD TO THE BASE AKTATTER: USING A PICOT ON THE INNER ROW AKTATTER: FROM HERE YOU CREATE THE ROSE PETAL FOLLOWING THE DIRECTIONS WE JUST STUDIED AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... AKTATTER: WHEN THE PETAL IS COMPLETED GinaS: there are 3 slots now, as per the diagram AKTATTER: FOLD GENTLY TO THE RIGHT AKTATTER: SKIP 2 PICOTS ON THE BASE AKTATTER: AND JOIN TO THE NEXT PICOT WITH AKTATTER: A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN GinaS: in the bottom of the star AKTATTER: CONTINE TO ADD PETALS TO CREAT THE FULLNESS YOU DESIRE AKTATTER: AT THE END YOU MIGHT ADD TEXTURE BY CREATING SOME SMALLER PETALS TO TUCK INTO NEXT TO THE BASE OF THE ROSE picotsnkeys: is this the yellow line in the diagram under step 16? AKTATTER: THE DIAGRAM IN #16 SHOWS THE SPOTS TO MAKE THE JOINS AKTATTER: THE BLUE SPOT IN THE CENTER IS THE STARTED RING I THINK picotsnkeys: so the red line is the final cluny for the center? AKTATTER: AND THE YELLOW LINE GOES ONVER THE OUT STRETCHED PICOTS AKTATTER: THE RED LINE I THINK SHOWS THE DIRECTION OF WORK mariaalcantara: the yellow line shows you the direccion of jints... mariaalcantara: joints AKTATTER: SMALLER PETALS ON OUTSIDE ARE OIPTIONAL LOOK AT AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/2Cg4o0KBx8k7i6... mariaalcantara: the red lines tell you to jump 2 picots and then joint the next cjuny AKTATTER: LOOK AT THESE TWO COLOR ROSES AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/-XUrNtVBvTHCEG... Susan joined the chat 46 hours ago AKTATTER: WELCOME SUSAN AKTATTER: THIS EARRING SHOWS THE SMALL PETALS ON THE OUTSIDE AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/1GufYL4QMjuqwk... Cynthia: Hi Susan....we are being challenged by clunies...large and small ones...at least for some of us it is a challenge mariaalcantara: picot..is a way to show the space between clunies once they are finished picotsnkeys: oooo.....I can tell I'm not going to get any housework or garden work done until I finish one of these roses :) mariaalcantara: Cyn for all...I am still learnoing how to do them! Susan: hahah my favorite Susan: hi all\ AKTATTER: OK I KNOW THERE ARE STILL QUESTIOINS Cynthia: I still have to conquer clunies before I can think of doing a pattern with them...LOL AKTATTER: BUT WE NEED TO PRACTICE THIS SOMEMORE TO BE ABLE TO EXPLAIN IT BETTER AKTATTER: IF ANYTHING WOULD MAKE YOU LEARN THE CLUNY THIS IS IT CYN Cynthia: and to ask questions that make sense.... picotsnkeys: how about earrings in the colors on your hat, Cyn? AKTATTER: SO ONCE AGAIN MANY THANKS FOR SHARING THIS METHOD WITH US CARMIN AKTATTER: AND THANKS SO MUCH MARIA FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK mariaalcantara: Cyn I am always in the position of answare you, if a can... dagmar: k AKTATTER: THIS LESSON WILL REPEAT AT 8PM ET (NEW YORK TIME) mariaalcantara: I am lerning too AKTATTER: ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS?? mariaalcantara: learning Cynthia: I'll just cry for now....I will conquer clunies...I will conquer clunies, I will I will Iwill AKTATTER: SAY, WHO ALL IS GOING TO PALMETTO TAT DAYS THIS YEAR picotsnkeys: thank you so much for the lesson, G, Maria etc AKTATTER: I AM!! mariaalcantara: we will Cyn... AKTATTER: SUSAN CUSS?? Cynthia: I know I can, I know I can.....but right now I still haven't!!!!!!!!!! AKTATTER: GET THAT ENGINE GOID CYN AKTATTER: GOING Cynthia: Me, Gina, Patricia and ??????????????? mariaalcantara: me...if all goes on AKTATTER: MARIA, MARIE SMITH I KNOW TOO Cynthia: we'll see if I get it conqured before TAT days.... AKTATTER: ANY WAY IF ANYONE IS INTERESTEDIN GOING AKTATTER: THERE IS STILL TIME TO REGISTER http://palmettotatters.org/events/TatDay... GinaS: I am going AKTATTER: YOU MAY HAVE A FRIEND ON THELIST ALREADY http://palmettotatters.org/Forms/TatDayN... Cynthia: and if flying to Atlanta.. think arranging rides with tatters going thru mariaalcantara: G...I get Omega thread ...100 balls mariaalcantara: different colors and numbers AKTATTER: OH STUPENDOUS!! MARIA HOW VERY GENEROUS OF YOUR FRIEND mariaalcantara: 20 and 30 I think AKTATTER: MARIA NEEDS A RIDE FROM ATLANTA TO TOCCA AKTATTER: THAT IS VERY KIND OF HER AND YOU TOO mariaalcantara: tell me if what to do with them, GinaS: Lynne is going AKTATTER: HAVE YOU SEEN THE SNEALK PEEK AT THE SNOWFLAKE QUILT? AKTATTER: http://www.tatdaysscholarship.info/index... AKTATTER: BRING TO REGISTRATION WHEN YOU ARRIVE THEY WILL TAKE THEM AND DISTRIBUTE THEM IN THE BAGS GinaS: Lynne and I are driving up together AKTATTER: IT IS NOT FINISHED YET BUT WE WILL HAEV QUILT PHOTOS SOON mariaalcantara: great!!!!!! AKTATTER: GREAT GIA AKTATTER: GINA GinaS: Georgia, what kids of motifs and sizes of motifs and edgings do we need for the embellishing class? AKTATTER: LET ME GET A PHOTO FOR YOU picotsnkeys: bring pictures of the puppies Gina!!!! GinaS: okay melanie :) they should have their eyes open soon AKTATTER AKTATTER: that was my test model GinaS: they make little baby bark and growl sounds AKTATTER: if you change the postcard01.jpg to 02 etc. through 16 you can see some of the others AKTATTER: the sizes are AKTATTER: Fabric postcards: 1. postcard shows a sample of the reverse of the postcard. 4.25 x 6.5" 2. postcard4 x 6" 3. postcard 4.25 x 6.5" 4. postcard 4.5 x 6.25" 5. postcard 5 x 7 " 6. postcard 4.25 x 7 " 7. postcard 5 x 7.25" 8. postcard 4.75 x 7" 9. postcard 4.25 x 6.25" 10. postcard 4.5 x 6.25" 11. postcard 4.75 x 6.25" 12. postcard 4.75 x 7.25" 13. postcard 5 x 7.25" 14. postcard 4.5 x 5.5" 15. postcard 5 x 7.25" 16. postcard 5 x 6.5" GinaS: we're supposed to bring fabric postcards? AKTATTER: i made the postcards and will haev other things to decorate you brnig the tatting Susan: nice GinaS: for the embellishing found objects? GinaS: right, that's what I was asking... how long should the edging pieces be and how big should the motifs be? AKTATTER AKTATTER: that is a postcard I received while I was ill it is beautiful which gave me the idea AKTATTER: other items i will measure and post as they are done Aurora: it´s a beautiful postcard GinaS: oh okay... do we need to bring embroidery thread and needles? mariaalcantara joined the chat 46 hours ago GinaS: yes it sure is AKTATTER the tatting for the hair bands AKTATTER: 1.5" - 3,5" Cynthia: They are all beautiful! such tallent in this group! Aurora: Those are pretty nice for girls AKTATTER pinwheels and pin holders mariaalcantara: G: where I can find the materials I will need for each class Susan: xmas is comming nice idea GinaS: gosh I'll need a steamer trunk for everything I want to bring Aurora: :)) AKTATTER: sachet bags are about 3.5" wide et the bottom Cynthia: Everything is so beautiful... AKTATTER: you will receive a list from the teacher and everything that is needed specially will be in a kit for you are registration GinaS: as long as all the suitcases are on wheels I should be okay LOL AKTATTER: yes! sets of snowflake for the fundraiser would be beautiful and a good seller i think GinaS: I will empty out a rolling toolbox I use for art supplies and put tatting supplies in it mariaalcantara: ok..... Cynthia: I am limiting what I bring to my tatting bag (old diaper bag is sturdy and big), suitcase and 1 box that I can carry!!!! I must not get more than I cna carry.... AKTATTER: the covered baskets are all small but I will need to measure the diameter and circumferenes etc. GinaS: I got the idea from a picture from last year's tat days AKTATTER: good picotsnkeys: good rule of thumb Cynthia! AKTATTER: ok any other questions?? mariaalcantara: ???? what i need to bring???? Cynthia: $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ for the vendors....LOL AKTATTER: too early to worry maria, you wil get a list before classes picotsnkeys: lol mariaalcantara: thanks G... the $$$$ is prepared Aurora: :)) dagmar: Georgia, you saw the snowflake pattern that I sent for you? Cynthia: don't worry be happy....it will work out.... GinaS: I think I have some rolling suitcases GinaS: a small one and a medium one Susan: good idea AKTATTER: not yet but I will look today, thanks dagmar mariaalcantara: rolling suitcases????? GinaS: and the toolbox Aurora: creo que son maletitas con ruedas Cynthia: some suitcases have wheels on them mariaalcantara: cuanto cargan??? AKTATTER: rollingbags http://www.bing.com/shopping/pull-throug... Aurora: se ven mucho en los aeropuertos GinaS: yes, maria, they are suitcases with wheels and a long handle so you can pull them mariaalcantara: what for???? GinaS: instead of carrying them AKTATTER: ok my time online is up so I must go AKTATTER: i hope to see you again later! Cynthia: so it is easier than carrying them mariaalcantara: how much I will carry??? AKTATTER: thanks for stopping by AKTATTER: bye for now Susan: tatting supplies you may need Aurora: Bye G and thaniks again mariaalcantara: see you G in the next class picotsnkeys: thank you G GinaS: for people like me who can't carry heavy things Susan: thanky you Aurora: I wont be later :( Cynthia: I have to get dinner...I will try to make the evening class but I have a commitment for part of it....Peace and Namaste and bye mariaalcantara: cuidate Aurora dagmar: bye Geórgia. Aurora: Bye Cyn, be happy picotsnkeys: I'm off to look at the videos for tips and clues Cynthia: sleep well Aurora and print out the log.... Aurora: No maria no me estoy despidiendo todavia picotsnkeys: bye all dagmar: thank you GinaS: its like a regular suitcase, only it has wheels on one short end GinaS: and a handle that pulls out picotsnkeys left the chat 46 hours ago dagmar: bye to all Aurora: I will Cyn and practice, but I would better use a loom mariaalcantara: bye all..... Aurora: Bye dagmar GinaS: me too GinaS: I think I'll alter the star loom Susan: bye all will try to make evening class Aurora: Yes, there are to many threads to take care of Aurora: Bye susan GinaS: I agree, Aurora, I was having a hard time Aurora: I have to make the loom from scratch GinaS: take care susan GinaS: do they sell plastic canvas in spain? Aurora: I make clunnies with my hands, but just have three threads Aurora: not really Gina GinaS: you could make your own star shape from a square piece Aurora: But I this I have something that can be modified to use it as a loom GinaS: or maybe template plastic? Aurora: exactly GinaS: like quilters use to make templates? GinaS: that would work Aurora: sure, and I have that too GinaS: you might want to glue a couple of layers together to make it stiffer Aurora: that´s another idea :)) Gina you´re plenty of them !!!! GinaS: :) Aurora: I would like going to tatdays, unfortunatly it´s far away Aurora: So, please, you must take as many pics as you can, I would like looking at them GinaS: okay Aurora, I will have to remember to bring my camera GinaS: and extra batteries GinaS: I have so much stuff I want to take LOL GinaS: and I still have some beads I need to buy for two of my classes Aurora: lolol well, maybe you can use your cellular phone GinaS: I got the kit for Snow Queen, but I had her change the colors for me Aurora: Mine takes good pics GinaS: she was so nice to do that!!!! Nina Libin GinaS: yes mine does too Aurora: really she was. GinaS: and my memory card is a decent size Aurora: So you dont need an extra cammera GinaS: Cynthia suggested I email her and ask if I could have the other colors GinaS: the colors for the other class she is teaching... I like those colors better than the ones in the kit for the class I am taking LOL Aurora: :)) Aurora: Well, I do like working with the colours I like instead others GinaS: yes me too Aurora: always the same, fucsia, yellow, white, violet, bright blue and green GinaS: I have to practice clunies some more because one of my classes uses them Aurora: I have received a letter from swcharino, explaining why i was expel from their page GinaS: mine are usually blue/green, green, yellow, and earth tones (browns, beiges, gold, copper) and purple GinaS: who is that and what do you mean? Aurora: ahhh i like purple too Aurora: ahh really, you werent this morning in class GinaS: this morning? Aurora: yes, this morning at 10 there was the first special event class :)) Aurora: I was surprised too when i got the email from G, GinaS: oh I didn't know, I thought it was at the regular times GinaS: I see the email now GinaS: I don't read my email enough Aurora: Neither i do, but this morning was one of those "special" days. GinaS: I have email from her go to a special folder and I didn't look in it today Aurora: that´s way i dont have more folders, just the inbox. I´ve lost several emails because i dont use to check them Aurora: well Gina. It always is a pleasure to speak with you, but is 11 pm here and i would like getting a shower before going to bed GinaS: okay, good night! GinaS: take care and hope to see you soon! Aurora: So, I say goodnight. And remember, dont worry so much and be happy Aurora: You too, take care and enjoy tatdays GinaS: I'll try :) GinaS left the chat 45 hours ago tatpat1 joined the chat 45 hours ago tatpat1: I 'm really late. Hi, and bye. ncmomftbragg: hi Marie Smith left the chat 45 hours ago Aurora was timed out 43 hours ago picotsnkeys joined the chat 42 hours ago Sherong joined the chat 42 hours ago Sherong: Hi there, wonder if we are going to start now or the usual 8:30 time? Highplainsgal joined the chat 42 hours ago Highplainsgal: I'm new to all of this but the email said 8:00 ET. picotsnkeys: Hi Sherong ad Maria and Highplainsgal Sherong: I know but it's not the first time Georgia has said 8 and meant 8:30. Usually there is a needle tatting session 8 - 8:30 Sherong: Ah well, we'll find out soon. picotsnkeys: I'm not sure what time we'll start. I usually cannot make the later class picotsnkeys: I sat in earlier today, completed one double cluny and have a ton of questions. lol AKTATTER joined the chat 42 hours ago AKTATTER: hello all Sherong: Hi AK picotsnkeys: Hi G Highplainsgal: Hi AK Sherong: Was wondering if email meant 8:30, usual class time? mariaalcantara joined the chat 42 hours ago mariaalcantara: Hi all girls!!! here we are, ready G! AKTATTER: great! AKTATTER: 8 but we can wait a few minutes picotsnkeys: Maria...I have to complement you again on your directions. I can really follow them! Sherong: Has everyone registered for Tat Days? AKTATTER: me!!! picotsnkeys: I really wish I could...I've used up all my plane fare money for this year :( Sherong: Well, your teaching Sandy joined the chat 42 hours ago picotsnkeys: the workshops look so good! Sandy: Hi Sherong: Well, you can always get the pattern CD, not as much fun but lots of patterns to work on AKTATTER: don't forget there are scholarships available Sherong: And start saving now for next year AKTATTER sent out an invitation 42 hours ago AKTATTER sent out an invitation 42 hours ago picotsnkeys: I'm saving for next year and have the CD in this year's budget! lol AKTATTER: next year is the 10th anniversary AKTATTER: before we start, Maria, I tried to make a loom that showed the threads more clearly Sherong: Seems like just a couple of years ago that you came down from Alaska and I met you at the workshop in Atlanta mariaalcantara: thanks picot.. AKTATTER: please see if this is correct AKTATTER AKTATTER: seems like yesterday CelticDreamWeaver joined the chat 42 hours ago Sherong: Well that's one use for a bobbin lace pillow mariaalcantara: great G! AKTATTER: lol it is actually a pinroll with emery berry AKTATTER: it is ok?? AKTATTER: good AKTATTER: hello Sherry AKTATTER: if you know a tatter who would enjoy being here, please use the button on the left to invite them to join us. AKTATTER: if you printed the how to pdf early, then you will need to mark some changes on it AKTATTER: or you can go and print off the corrected copy AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... AKTATTER: ok LET'S GET STARTED AKTATTER: WE BEGIN WITH A SHORT REVIEW AKTATTER: AS YOU KNOW THE CLUNY CAN BE MADE ON THE HAND OR ON A PLASTIC LOOM Sherong: Sign in??? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/patclun... AKTATTER: SURE AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA mariaalcantara: Maria Alcantara;famalcan@prodi gy.net.mx;Mexico City: both styles Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC, USA picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi aka picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA (shuttle and needle) AKTATTER sent out an invitation 42 hours ago AKTATTER: AND WE CAN WORK THE CLUNYN WITH THE NEEDLE OR THE SHUTTLE mariaalcantara: Carmín Haydee Barrón; haydenangy@hotmail.com, México, City AKTATTER: NEEDLE http://needledreams.tripod.com/clunnylea... Sandy: Sandy Cofer, dscofer2@comcast.net, Bremerton, WA, USA Sherong: Mystery solved I think. Maria: are you the Maria from Mexico coming to Palmetto's? AKTATTER: SHUTTLE http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art3... AKTATTER: YES SHE IS!!!!!! Sherong: Will be great to meet her AKTATTER: SHE ALSO NEEDS A RIDE FROM ATLANTA TO TOCCOA AKTATTER: OK WE NEED TO GO THRU THE STEPS CAREFULY AKTATTER: YOU MAY WANT TO HAVE THIS PHOTO ON SCREEN IN ANOTHER WINDOW AKTATTER Sherong: Might do good to post to PalTatters yahoo group. I think a couple are going from there AKTATTER: GOOD IDEA AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... AKTATTER: TO PRACTICE OR WHEN WORKING, THERE SHOULD BE A RING/CHAIN OR SOME TATTED ELEMENT TO WHICH TO HOLD AKTATTER: IN THE PINCHING POINT mariaalcantara: yes sHERONG AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE THE PINCH MARKED IN THE PHOTO mariaalcantara: NO ggggg...i AM GOING TO DRIVE!!!!! AKTATTER: THE LOOM IS MADE BY USING SH2/BALL THREAD TO WRAP THE LEFT HAND Sherong: AK: that brings up a blank page for me AKTATTER: WHAT??????? Sherong: What which? Sherong: Drive or blank page AKTATTER: PLEASE TRY AGAIN THE HOW 2 PAGE IS SHOWING FOR ME AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... mariaalcantara: G I will drive to toccoa...hopfully I will get there...google maps! AKTATTER: DRIVING!!!! WELL WONDERFUL i THOUGHT YOU NEEDED A RIDE!! AKTATTER: THAT IS GREAT Sherong: Came up now, guess it's just very slow to load AKTATTER: OK TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD AKTATTER: AND BEGIN TO WRAP THE LOOM »The Online Tatting Class« Visible contents as of 19 Aug 2011 13:50 UTC-05:00 (265 KB) Page 4 of 6 · Char 153611 to 204917 · Newest posts at the bottom AKTATTER: TAKE THE THREAD AROUND THE MIDDLE FINGER AND BACK TO THE PINCH mariaalcantara: Thank you!!!! i will go to the Acuarium so I will fly the 20..... picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: THAT MEANS AROUND PIN A AND BACK TO THE PINCH mariaalcantara: and will use the 2 days to walk a little thru the area... AKTATTER: WE ARE GOING TO THE AQUARIUM AFTERWARDS TOO!!!! AKTATTER: LOVELY AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE THE SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE PINKIY AKTATTER: AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: OOPS mariaalcantara: my daughter, marin biologist, need some info from them so.....mama will go to get it! AKTATTER: THAT IS NOT PIN A SORRY AKTATTER: WTG MARIA AKTATTER: I START AGAIN AKTATTER: TAKE SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE LEFT PIN = MIDDLE FINGER AKTATTER: ANDBACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE PIN ON THE FAR RIGHT = PINKY Katie Verna/occhitat joined the chat 42 hours ago Katie Verna/occhitat: Hello, tatters! CelticDreamWeaver: Hi everybody...I am eating as I am playing here in the classroom AKTATTER: NEXT TAKE TH SH2/BALL THREAD AROUND THE PIN = RING FINGER AKTATTER: AND BACK TO THE PINCH AKTATTER: KATIE WELCOME!!! CelticDreamWeaver: So who will I see at the Palmetto event? mariaalcantara: me..... AKTATTER: AND TO END TAKE THE SH2/BALL TTHREAD BETWEEN THE MIDDLE AND RING FRINGER PINS AND TO THE BACK AKTATTER: I WRAPPED THE THREAD AROUND ANOTHER PIN ONTHE FAR SIDE TO KEEP IT FROM WIGGLING AROUND CelticDreamWeaver: I am eating nasty high carb macoroni and cheese and texas hots CelticDreamWeaver: no bun though AKTATTER: 52 SO FAR REGISTERED AKTATTER: http://palmettotatters.org/Forms/TatDayN... AKTATTER: SO THE THREADS ARE MARKED A, B, C, D , E AKTATTER: TO DISTINGUISH THEM FOR THE WEAVING PROCESS AKTATTER: IS EVERYONE OK ON WINDING THE LOOMNOW?? mariaalcantara: y picotsnkeys: y AKTATTER: OK TO BEGINTHE WEAVING REMEMBER THAT A PASS = GOING FROM RIGHT TO LEFT TO RIGHT = ONE PASS AKTATTER: WELCOME HOPE AKTATTER: SO TAKE THE SH1 UNDER THREADS E C AND A AKTATTER: THEN GO BACK TAKING THE SHUTTLE OVER THREADS B AND D AKTATTER: CONTINUE WITH THE NUMBR OF PASSES NEEDED AKTATTER: YOU CAN MAKE THE CLUNY SKINNY, FAT, OR ROUNDED BUT ADJUSTING THE TENSION ON THE SH1 THREAD AKTATTER: USE THE POINT OF THE SH1 TO PUSH DOWN THE THREAD TO THE POINT AKTATTER SEE HOW LOOSE THE RED SH1 THREAD IS INT HE PHOTO? AKTATTER: PULL TIGHTER AND PUSH DOWN TO MAKE TH POINT AKTATTER: AND THE NORMAL CLUNY GETS WIDER IN THE MIDDLE AND AGAIN NARROW AT THE POINT AKTATTER: INTHIS CASE YOU ARE WOKRING ABOUT 40 PASSES AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: IT IS IMPORTANT THAT YOU COMPLETE THE WEAVING WITH A HALF PASS AKTATTER: THE LAST PASS GOES FROMRIGHT TO LEFT AND STOPS AKTATTER: OK SO FAR? AKTATTER: DROP SH1 OVER THE BACK OF THE LEFT H AND AND LEFT IT DANGLE mariaalcantara: y AKTATTER: THIS IS THE IMPORTANT PART NEXT AKTATTER: YOU MUST DO THE THREADS IN THE RIGHT ORDER GinaS joined the chat 42 hours ago picotsnkeys: y AKTATTER: IDENTIFY THREAD E (GOES TO THE SH2/BALL THREAD) AKTATTER: AND IDENTIFY THREAD D AKTATTER GINA WELCOME AKTATTER: SEE IF THAT HELPS picotsnkeys: wb Gina! I'd hooe we'd see you AKTATTER: NOW YOU KNOW WHICH THREAD IS WHICH mariaalcantara: Hi Gina! AKTATTER: TAKE THREAD B OVER THREAD D AND LET IT DANGLE GinaS: hi everyone AKTATTER: PULLON THREAD B UNTIL THREAD A IS ALL GONE AKTATTER: NEXT PULL ON THREAD C UNTIL THREAD B IS ALL GONE AKTATTER: PULL ON THREAD D UNTIL THREAD C DISAPEARS AKTATTER: AND LAST AKTATTER: PULL ON THREAD E (SH2/BALL THREAD) UNTIL THREAD D IS GONE TOO AKTATTER: IF ALL WENT WELL YOU HAVE A DOUBLE CLUNY! AKTATTER: QUESTIONS FOR CARMIN OR MARIA? AKTATTER: WELCOME GREEN Katie Verna/occhitat: lordy, lordy! How many of you tatters have tried this? Greengal joined the chat 42 hours ago GinaS: gosh I guess I am late GinaS: I thought class was at regular time picotsnkeys: using size 20 thread, I only had enough room for 30 passes with my small hand and small loom :( Greengal: Hi guys just popped in to say HI as my Ckluny phobia is still in full swing Elnora joined the chat 42 hours ago mariaalcantara: G you have to pull the first thread a/b with a thread in the pinky pin Elnora: Hi everyone AKTATTER: OK MAKE THAT NOTE PLEASE Katie Verna/occhitat: I understand it much better now, AK. thanks. I looked at the photos for some time and was sort of confused. AKTATTER: TO GET THREAD B TO MOVE WE NEED THE SLACK FROM THE TWO LOOPS AROUND THE PINKY picotsnkeys: I've completed two cluny for my first rose....and think I finally get it :)) AKTATTER: WHEN WE DO A NORMAL CLUNY WE HAVE A LOOP HANGING DOWN BELOW THE PINCH mariaalcantara: congrats picot.. AKTATTER: THE TWO PINKY LOOPS SERVE TO GIVE US THAT SAME SLACK IN ORDER TO MANIPULATE THE THREADS WHEN CLOSING AKTATTER: GREAT KATIE AKTATTER: THAT IS WONDERFUL MEL!!! AKTATTER: WB ELNORA AKTATTER: ARE YOU READY TO STUDY THE ROSE PATTERN NEXT?? GinaS: the photos are confusing to me too Katie picotsnkeys: need to charge up the camera battery before I can take a picture (oops...ain't that the way it is?) GinaS: did they give the links to the videos yet? Katie Verna/occhitat: Let er rip, AK. We'll tryt to follow! picotsnkeys: yes....the videos helped too AKTATTER: DID YOU STUDY THE NEW PHOTO GINA? Katie Verna/occhitat: which video? AKTATTER AKTATTER: THE VIDEOS ARE VERY HELPFUL GinaS: yes I did Georgia, thank you! AKTATTER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBVRM0VzSs http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfX9AS2Qc8I http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_p9i86L9CQ mariaalcantara: clase frivolite rosas 1.AVI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBVRM0VzSs mariaalcantara: clase frivolite rosas 1.AVI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBVRM0VzSs AKTATTER: ONCE WE HAVE MASTERD THE DOUBLE CLUNY METHOD AKTATTER: THEN WE WILL WANT TO MAKE THIS ROSE FOR CERTAIN AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... GinaS: the rose is so neat :) AKTATTER: NO MATTER WHAT WE ARE MAKING THE ROSE MUST BE ATTACHED TO A BASE OF SOMEKING AKTATTER: KIND pysankylover@yahoo.com joined the chat 42 hours ago AKTATTER: THE PATTERN GIVES US A SIMPLE RING AND CHAIN MOTIF TO BEGIN WITH AKTATTER: WELCOME EGG pysankylover@yahoo.com: hi AKTATTER: YOU CAN ATTACH THE ROSE TO MANY KINDS OF BASES AKTATTER: LOOK HERE AT THESE EARRINGS GinaS: brb picotsnkeys: Hi picotsnkeys: nancy! AKTATTER: http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... Elnora: Is that a bobbin lace pillow AKTATTER: NO IT IS JUST A LITTLE PIN ROLL WITH AN EMERY BERRY Elnora: I looks like it might work out ok AKTATTER: AND SEE THSE TWO COLOR ROSES ON HEARTS http://api.ning.com/files/-XUrNtVBvTHCEG... AKTATTER: GOOD ! AKTATTER: A CLASSIC WHITE ROSE http://frivolite.info/photo/aretes-rosas... AKTATTER: AND BEAUTIFUL PINK ROSES ON A GREEN DOILY AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/bgkV4Kqp2xV7dY... AKTATTER: BUT MY FAVORITE HAS TO BE THE PUMPKINS mariaalcantara: http://api.ning.com/files/6cnwTubFr-CYio... AKTATTER: http://api.ning.com/files/FtYXIe9OAkmXmD... Paule joined the chat 42 hours ago AKTATTER: AND http://api.ning.com/files/64eoq8Ki5CoPFZ... Paule: Allo everyone AKTATTER: THE PUMPKINS COULD AS EASILY BE APPLES AKTATTER: ORANGES, CHERRIES, A PERSON'S HEAD AKTATTER: WELCOME PAULE SO GOOD TO SEE YOU mariaalcantara: http://api.ning.com/files/2Cg4o0KBx8k7i6... pysankylover@yahoo.com: k GinaS: back AKTATTER: SO LETS US WORK THROUGH THE ROSE AKTATTER: TAT THE BASE AND THEN ATTACH THE ROSE COLORED THREAD TO A PICOT ON THE INNER ROW OF THE BASE GinaS: how do you make pumpkins? AKTATTER: AS SHOWN IN PICTURE 3 AKTATTER: CARMIN IS GOING TO WRITE THE PATTERN FOR US AKTATTER: CREATE THE DOUBLE CLUNY FOR A ROSE PETAL AKTATTER: WHEN DONE GENTLY FOLD THE CLUNY OVER TO THE RIGHT AKTATTER: AND SKIP 2 PICOTS ON THE BASE ANDATTACH AKTATTER: WITH A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN AKTATTER: CREATE ANOTHER ROSE PETAL AND AGAIN ANCHOR TO THE BASE AKTATTER: THE DIAGRAM SHOWS THE DIRECTION OF TH WORK mariaalcantara: I have this earings in my hand...http://api.ning.com/files/2Cg4o0KBx8k7i6... AKTATTER: NEAT picotsnkeys: those would be beautiful for a wedding AKTATTER: YOU CAN VARY THE EFFECT OF THE ROSE WITH DIFFERENT SIZE PETALS AE YOU GO AROUND AKTATTER: AND CHANGE THE COLOR TOO BY USING AN OMBRE THREAD pysankylover@yahoo.com: k AKTATTER: I THINK THIS A GREAT REFRESHING METHOD GinaS: I saw some ombré red lizbeth which would look nice AKTATTER: THAT MAKES ME WANT TO DO THE ROSE SO BAD AKTATTER: AND GUESS WHAT AKTATTER: I AM ABLE TO DO THE ROSE AKTATTER: SO BADLY GinaS: on the HH flyer AKTATTER: THAT I WILL KEEP TRYING UNTIL THEY LOOK BETTER AKTATTER: LOL GinaS: LOL pysankylover@yahoo.com: LOL AKTATTER: I MUST WORK ON THE TENSION AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO CARMIN FOR SHARING HER METHOD AND PATTERN WITH USS pysankylover@yahoo.com: I havent gotten a good single cluny leaf yet, but Im working on it AKTATTER: AND TO MARIA FOR MAKING ALL THIS HAPPEN pysankylover@yahoo.com: Thanks Carmen AKTATTER: WE AER DELIGHTED THT CARMIN COULD JOIN US TODAY GinaS: I've only done one single cluny leaf :) picotsnkeys: thank you Carmin! AKTATTER: WE ALL START WITH JUST ONE AKTATTER: KEEP IT UP pysankylover@yahoo.com joined the chat 42 hours ago pysankylover@yahoo.com: thanks Maria GinaS: I just couldn't this afternoon... had some nerve block injections in my back this morning and it took a lot out of me pysankylover@yahoo.com: Thanks to you too Georgia Katie Verna/occhitat: Thanks, Maria and Carmin! Paule: I have a question AKTATTER: I HOPE TO HAVE THE PUMPKIN TO SHARE IN THE FALL TOO AKTATTER: YES PAULE pysankylover@yahoo.com: Hopeyou are feeling better mariaalcantara: youall are welcome..Carmin and Maria mariaalcantara: jajajajaja....soon G Sherong: Maria: You need to work up some patterns for this to teach at Tat Days next year. It's never too early to start planing AKTATTER: OK GREAT :) Paule: What is the difference between Carmin's method and others' method of doing the cluny? mariaalcantara: we will work on that... Highplainsgal: Will save all this info until I'm far enough along to use it. Beautiful pictures and instructions really helped. AKTATTER: MORE THREADS ON THE LOOM GinaS: it will be pretty painful for the next 3 to 5 days, unfortunately AKTATTER: NORMAL CLUNY HAS 3 THREADS ,THIS HAS 5 AKTATTER: I HOPE YOU GET BETTER WUICKL Paule: Ah! picotsnkeys: my first petal was too big....but it kind of looks like a double center rose LOL AKTATTER: BTW OUR FRIEND BETSY EVANS IS DOING CHEMO mariaalcantara: great picot... AKTATTER: IF YOU WANT TO SEND HER A NOTE OF ENCOURAGEMENT AKTATTER: GO TO BOTTOM OF PAGE: AKTATTER: http://betsy-sclinicaltrial.blogspot.com... Raelara joined the chat 41 hours ago AKTATTER: WELCOME JENNY GinaS: hi Raelara Raelara: sorry I didn't make it earlier ... life has been insane AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAT DAYS THIS YEAR, YOU CAN STILL HELP WITH THE FUNDRAISER picotsnkeys: must go and fix dinner now. Thanks again. picotsnkeys left the chat 41 hours ago AKTATTER: WE ARE GONIG TO DECORATE FABRIC POSTCARDS TO SELL AKTATTER AKTATTER: THAT IS A SAMPLE AKTATTER: THIS IS THE FIRST ONE I SAW SENT OT ME WHEN I WAS ILL AKTATTER AKTATTER: if you change postcard01.jpg to 02 through 16 you can see some of the others GinaS: I am going to tat days :) AKTATTER and we are going to decorate hairbands GinaS: should be so fun AKTATTER: you can mail in tatted edgings or motif for us to use anytime Raelara: with the tat days scholarships ... is the aid just for the registration, or does it include hotel as well? GinaS: it includes the hotel pysankylover@yahoo.com: how large should hte motifs be Raelara: so the biggest hurdle would be travel ... and childcare. AKTATTER: go to http://palmettotatters.org/events/TatDay... AKTATTER: scroll down a bit and there is a link to the info for the sholarships deadlin is aug 22 Raelara: That is the trick for me ... I have nothing to do with my two kids. Cynthia joined the chat 41 hours ago AKTATTER: share a room to save expenses, and car pool too Cynthia: You're still here.... Raelara: I don't think there are any of our tatters near me. I would have to drive all the way across the country. GinaS: the scholarship includes the room (they assign you a roommate) meals except for the banquet, and classes but you have to pay for kits, any other retail items, and part of the banquet I believe Cynthia: where are you Raelara? AKTATTER: it is a lovely spot for kids and activities but you would need to find a baby sitter if you brought them withyou also Raelara: California, San Francisco area Cynthia: hmmma bit far from Oklahoma.... AKTATTER: if you can't go to palmettos GinaS: oh gosh that is far Raelara: yeah AKTATTER: that are many ioli guilds o nthe west coast AKTATTER: lacemakers of puget sound, shuttle birds of spokane AKTATTER: portalnd lace guild GinaS: I live in FL, and I am lucky to be able to carpool with someone here AKTATTER: freeway lacers Raelara: Still pretty far from me. Raelara: I've kinda looked and the guilds are few and far between here in CA AKTATTER: contact some of the guils http://www.georgiaseitz.com/guilds/ca_li... GinaS: in FL too Raelara GinaS: FL is the anti-craft state I think ;) Cynthia: just one of 50 Gina LOL AKTATTER: and the lace museum in sunnyvale Raelara: Floridians are too interested in beach life ... probably the same here. AKTATTER: ok last call for questions? GinaS: seems like the northeast is the place to live if you enjoy fiber arts Sherong: Atlanta, GA has a lace workshop once a year with a tatting class Raelara: I'll check with those guilds though, some are closer than I thought. AKTATTER: right and hector ny and london ont canada too Cynthia: also if you are on any groups put out the word...that you need a ride... AKTATTER: thank you all for stopping by tonight i sure have missed you all Raelara: Thanks for the idea Cynthia, but I don't have much time to spend frequenting groups Katie Verna/occhitat: We've missed you too AK and are pleased that you're feeling better! AKTATTER: our next event will be the back to school in mid sept. AKTATTER: i'll send details later pysankylover@yahoo.com: we sure have missed you Georgia glad you were up to it tonight GinaS: we've missed you too Georgia!!!! AKTATTER: thanks katie and thank everyone forhte kind notes and enotes they were much appreciated AKTATTER: ok let's practice practice and send in rose photos!! Cynthia: The beginner classes start Sept 1 so we can get 3 in before I leave...for Tat Dauys mariaalcantara: Georgia, agradezco el foro que me otorgaste el día de hoy para los clunys dobles y rosas, estos clunys que amorosamente les decimos los gorditos AKTATTER: thanks to eveyrone for helping out mariaalcantara: Carmín Katie Verna/occhitat: You're the best, AK! mariaalcantara: thats true111 GinaS: Maria, your name is Carmin? Katie Verna/occhitat: See you all again soon. Gonna try those 5-thread clunies! Elnora: Georgia is known for French Hand sewing and AKTATTER: carmin and amria are together for class tonight mariaalcantara: NO Gina she is neer me!!! GinaS: oh LOL I was confused! AKTATTER: maria please translate the google translater said cluny's are chubby balls Paule01 joined the chat 41 hours ago AKTATTER: wb paule mariaalcantara: she call the cluny Chubby clunies.... Elnora: can't remember the othe stitching that goes with french hand sewing AKTATTER: ah ok!! Elnora: smocking Paule01: I was there all the time! Just stepped out to Save and aPrint! Elnora: there I finally remembered AKTATTER: yes the double cluny is much larger or fatter and makes an interesting contrast to the skinny cluny Cynthia: I like the concept of chubby clunies or balls... AKTATTER: ah ye smocking and tatting go well to gether also AKTATTER: chubby balls rofl AKTATTER: ok i must go my time online is over drat GinaS: I'm looking forward to the pumpkin pattern AKTATTER: thanks for coming AKTATTER: bye for now Cynthia: Peace AK GinaS: take care Georgia!!!! hugs mariaalcantara: she will send you a surprise!!!! with me to Pallmeto Cynthia: ooohhh I can hardly wait to see it Maria after Georgia sees it tho.... Elnora: Thank you Georgia for the classes. I missed some of this one-phone call mariaalcantara: By all girls, this is our 3 class today so...we will go to rest! Elnora: Bye all goodnite and God Bless pysankylover@yahoo.com: thanks agaom carmen and maria Cynthia: I will tackle the smaller clunies first until I get them so they will work...so far no luck....I'm sure I can, I'm sure I can......LOL GinaS: well my first and only one doesn't look so great, Cynthia pysankylover@yahoo.com: You make me feel better about mine cynthia pysankylover@yahoo.com: i can weave it, no problem, but how do you get the ends skinnier than the middle pysankylover@yahoo.com: mine look square somehow Sherong: Practice Cynthia: Beginner special event on the 25th bring your favorite pattern (links please) or one you have a problem with and we will work on it...regular times 3 and 9 ET.... Sherong: Pull the end weaves tighter, and looser in the center Cynthia: pull tighter at start and end than in the middle should make them more ovals GinaS: 25th this month? Elnora: it may be the way the threads are pulled to finish? I really don/t know Sherong: Practice, practice, and more practice Cynthia: yes the 25th of this month....Class starts up again the 1st of Sept so we can get 3 classes before Palmettos.... pysankylover@yahoo.com: I have asked hubby for a piece of wood and some nails so that may work better for me than plastic canvas pysankylover@yahoo.com: Like you Cynthia, I will try and try again Sherong: Not when done, pull tighter as you work, then looser for the center, then tighter again pysankylover@yahoo.com: Thanks Sherong: Hold woven section in the pinch to prevent it from loosenig as you do the next weave Cynthia: this will not stymie me....I know I can conquer it.... pysankylover@yahoo.com: when you pull the core thread through do you just pull it from the end Sherong: Check out Mimi Dillman's pages, lots of help there pysankylover@yahoo.com: ok thanks Sherong: You have to pull the 'loom threads' as they go, if you pull the wrong one first how do you pull the ones before that one? Cynthia: My hand won't hold for the cluny but I will try with a star and see if that helps....I know I can master it.... Sherong: I remember a class I had with Mimi and she just put pins in something and wove around the pins. Take the pins out to tighten. Sherong: And it leaves both hands free. GinaS: the star helped me with the regular one Sherong: Got to go now. See you all next time. Sherong left the chat 41 hours ago GinaS: I'm thinking I will just modify it to hold the extra threads GinaS: because I'm not good holding the threads Cynthia: I will figure it out...I think the pins one is still on angelfire but not sure...worth a look tho pysankylover@yahoo.com: I asked hubby for a 2 to 3 inch square of wood, about 3/4 thick pysankylover@yahoo.com: Then I can put paneling nails in it to work around pysankylover@yahoo.com: I could set that up to do 3 thread or 5 thread while Im pounding nails LOL Cynthia: that might work...just make sure you can get the threads off the loom.... GinaS: just make sure you have enough room to put the shuttles under the threads when it is threaded erin in tenn. joined the chat 41 hours ago Cynthia: that too... GinaS: hi erin\ pysankylover@yahoo.com: I use a needle to weave Cynthia: Hi Erin erin in tenn.: Better late than never! Hi, all! Cynthia: me too Erin but I was here earlier... GinaS: they have nails with teeny heads pysankylover@yahoo.com: not necessarily a tatting needle either LOL pysankylover@yahoo.com: panelling nails have little rings on the stem and a very tiny head Cynthia: a nice blunt tapestry needle would work too pysankylover@yahoo.com: cross stitch needle works well for me GinaS: that might be the kind I'm thinking of then :) pysankylover@yahoo.com: Easier to weave the small cluny Cynthia: that would work too...not so pointy/sharp pysankylover@yahoo.com: I just hope he brings me a piece of S pysankylover@yahoo.com: SOFT wood LOL GinaS: gosh wouldn't it be neat to have a C-shaped piece of wood to make a cluny loom out of? erin in tenn.: Nighters, all - I'm off to read the class log! And I guess try one of these out! erin in tenn.: ;-) Cynthia: Update on the hat....1 medalion to go and 2 rows of rings to finish it off. I plan to do split rings and alternate 2 colors on each row...orange and raspberry, blue and purple.,,,, GinaS: night erin :) GinaS: wow, almost done Cynthia Cynthia: nitght and peace erin... Cynthia: Pictures after Palmettos as I have promises of pictures from a couple people.... pysankylover@yahoo.com: cant wait to see the finished hat Cynthia pysankylover@yahoo.com: want to see it with your face under it LOL pysankylover@yahoo.com: so we can see you too I mean pysankylover@yahoo.com: Not with the hat hiding your face Cynthia: LOL if the cameras don't break...at 61 I'm not a model....but we'll see how it goes.... pysankylover@yahoo.com: Im a little older than you then Cynthia pysankylover@yahoo.com: I had best get heading pysankylover@yahoo.com: have a great night and pleasant dreams everyone Cynthia: Doug wants his promised haircut so I need to go and get it done. He paid for a bad haircut in 1978 and I've done it since and gotten pretty good...besides when I cut it it grows out faster as I don't cut off so much pysankylover@yahoo.com left the chat 41 hours ago Cynthia: Peace everyone...and bye GinaS: take care Cynthia GinaS: dang I missed melanie GinaS: hugs Cynthia: I will you too and hugs to everyone.... GinaS: well if any of y'all are still here, I'm off to bed I reckon GinaS: g'night :) GinaS left the chat 41 hours ago GinaS joined the chat 24 hours ago Brenda Evans joined the chat 24 hours ago Brenda Evans: Hi Gina Brenda Evans: How are you? GinaS: hi Brenda :) GinaS: I'm good, how are you? Brenda Evans: I am good too. GinaS: I'm practicing yesterday's lesson Brenda Evans: what was it? GinaS: it's a double cluny that you use to make a rose Brenda Evans: sounds nice. is there a pattern? was yesterdays lesson in place of the usual Thursday class? GinaS: no, not in place of it GinaS: it was a special class I guess Brenda Evans: i see. GinaS: there are a bunch of links to the patterns, the techniques, the videos... Brenda Evans: have you got them? Brenda Evans joined the chat 24 hours ago GinaS: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... GinaS: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2011/carminb... GinaS: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/patclun... GinaS: http://www.bellaonline.com/articles/art3... GinaS: http://www.sandbenders.demon.co.uk/tatti... GinaS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gGBVRM0VzSs GinaS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zfX9AS2Qc8I GinaS: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_p9i86L9CQ GinaS GinaS: http://api.ning.com/files/FtYXIe9OAkmXmD... GinaS GinaS: I think that's it Brenda Evans: Thanks Gina. i will look at it later. looks good. GinaS: it makes much more sense if you watch the videos Brenda Evans: is that the one you have done. I like that. GinaS: they are in spanish but seeing it makes all the difference even though I don't speak spanish GinaS: no I have not done any yet, I just modified my star loom to take the extra threads GinaS: I'm doing my first double cluny now GinaS: I'll work on making a rose after I master the double cluny GinaS: I've only made one regular cluny before LOL Brenda Evans: it looks complicated GinaS: and of course if you want to see the conversation you can download the log from yesterday Brenda Evans: i have a cluny project on going. I can only do a couple at a time. then leave it and so another project. GinaS: I don't think Georgia has erased it Brenda Evans: i will have a go at it first. GinaS: so if you do a save/print right now you will have the class from yesterday in there Brenda Evans: yes done that. GinaS: oh okay :) GinaS: it is a neat technique GinaS: it is kind of complicated at first but once you get the idea (again, watch the videos), it is not hard Brenda Evans: so you have to have two clunys going at the same time. Brenda Evans: two cluny looms GinaS: no, it is one cluny but it uses 5 warp threads instead of 3 GinaS: not sure why they call it double GinaS: I guess because it is bigger than a regular cluny, wider I mean Brenda Evans: oh i see. can it still be done on the hand? GinaS: I was totally not understanding it until I watched the video GinaS: yes GinaS: the pictures in the instructions and in the videos it shows it on the hand Brenda Evans: mind you it will hurt more. still. no pain no gain so the saying goes. GinaS: my hand would not cooperate so I added 2 more slits to my plastic canvas star "loom" and I'm doing it that way Brenda Evans: i am going through all the snowflakes in Jon Yusoffs book. GinaS: oh really? I have the first of her snowflake books but have not made any out of it yet