The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Visible content as of Tue May 11 02:13:14 2010 GMT (174 KB) Page 1 of 4 - Char 1 to 51245 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 cleared the room 7 hours ago AKTATTER: Monday May 10, 2010 afternoon needle tatting session begins at the half hour Rosemarie: Hi Georgia AKTATTER: HI Rosemarie, I am going to go check if anyone needs hel tp get into the classroom brb AKTATTER: Rose, you there? Rosemarie: Yes AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 sent out an invitation 7 hours ago AKTATTER: you know it has been many months since I opened this classroom AKTATTER: back then I knew we would need a password AKTATTER: so I tried to select the easiest password for a tatting to remember, tatting AKTATTER: but you will never imagine how many requests for the password I get before every class AKTATTER: can't understand it lol Rosemarie: That's funny. When I found out the password was tatting I though, "Duh" AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 sent out an invitation 7 hours ago AKTATTER: thanks Rose, I thought it was the most obvious choice there could be too lol AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 sent out an invitation 7 hours ago AKTATTER: did you have a needle tatting question? Rosemarie: No, just waiting for class to begin. Rosemarie: I've been shuttle tatting a colonial lady. It's an old pattern. She has a flouncy skirt. Just medallions, but very pretty. Susan from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 sent out 6 invitations 7 hours ago Susan: hi everybody AKTATTER: is it the one from the Workbasket? AKTATTER: Welcome Susan! Susan: ty, Georgia AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions? Susan: no, not really Susan: just waiting for class Susan: I've been doing some more experimenting AKTATTER: that is good to hear Susan: working on some things for an exchange Rosemarie: I'm not sure. I bought it from www.shellbeestreasures.c​om. It's titled Tatted Colonial Lady. Susan: made an anemone, but want to work on it a bit more Winkerbill from x.x.x.68 joined the chat 7 hours ago Winkerbill: hi everyone! Susan: hi Wink AnneB from x.x.x.72 joined the chat 7 hours ago Winkerbill: hi Anne Susan: hi Anne Rosemarie: Hi all Susan: hi Rosemarie AnneB: Hi all! Winkerbill: before I forget, I have a general "split chain" question Winkerbill: (probably doesn't apply to needle tatting, though....) Susan: that's one thing I have trouble with on the needle Winkerbill: when you make the lock join to do the 2nd half of a split chain, do you count the lock join as the first DS? Winkerbill: Really Susan? Split rings and split chains are super easy with the needle, learned it in ....probably a couple minutes for both....but worked on teh split chain with the shuttle for about a year before I finally "got" it. AnneB: brb Winkerbill: and I'm a shuttle tatter, so it's not like needle tatting comes easy to me .... Susan: split rings are fine...I like them....just haven't got the hang of the split chain, yet Winkerbill: My biggest problem with a needle is that when I look at it, it just does NOT make 'sense' to my mental image....and I end up second-guessing myself a lot. Susan: oh Winkerbill: split chain ...you do the first half of the chain, pull the thread through, then use the 'wrong' end of the needle to wrap the 2nd half of the chain, stick the eye through where you want to join, THEN thread the needle and pull the thread through. Easy to explain, hard t9 picture mentally Winkerbill: ;-) Winkerbill: BRB - got to check on my teapot. Susan: I guess what you start out with first is the picture one sees Winkerbill: yeah, and my mind sees "shuttle" pictures. I can watch a needle tatter and wonder how in the WORLD she's going to get the same results as I'm getting....with everything stretched out straight like that on her needle. ;-) Susan: well the explanation I had was not that easy... Susan: sounds almost like doing a split ring, just with chains Susan: hanks, Wink, I'll have to give that a try Susan: *Thanks Winkerbill: it is very similar to a split ring, except you close the first half before you start the 2nd half. Susan: sounds easy the way you explain it Winkerbill: and if you tat mostly with a shuttle, you ...um...shut off the part of your mind that is screaming "it can't poss8ibly work!" Susan: never used a shuttle.... Susan: took a class for needle tatting and I was hooked Winkerbill: really? I tatted for 20+ years before I saw my first tatting needle....and deliberated for even longer before I tried it. Winkerbill: I really prefer shuttle tatting, though. Winkerbill: Decided it would be a good thing to know how to do either, but my needles don't get much use. Susan: I think it's what one first learns that has the AnneB: I'm back with a cup of tea and I prefere shuttle tatting too. Susan: most attraction Susan: I'm out-numbered..;) Winkerbill: I was sort of glad to discover I preferred my shuttles, because when we go somewhere, DH drives, and I tat. Can't picture me tatting while bouncing along at 65 miles an hour over a not-so-wonderful highway with a needle in my hands. Winkerbill: ;-) Susan: actually, I tat in the car or truck...as long as I'm the passenger AnneB: Allthough - while discussing floating rings on SRs with aneedle tatter I realized there is one thing you can do with a needle and not with shuttles; Susan: what's that? Winkerbill: Still....there are a few things you can do with a needle that either can't be done with a shutlte or are much harder to do.... AnneB: You can't have rings thrown off both parts of a SR - unless you are needle tatting... Susan: actually did my tatted tree pattern in the truck on International Tatting Day Rosemarie: You're not outnumbered Susan. I do a little of both, but I find the needle tatting faster and more relaxing than shuttle tatting. AKTATTER: sorry for the interruption Winkerbill: like if the pattern has thread spaces between rings, and the threads need to be woven as you come down the 2nd row, well....I've never figured out how to pull that one off with a shuttle. AKTATTER: had a call from Germany Susan: that's interesting that it's faster Winkerbill: I think I HAVE (once?) thrown rings off both sides of a SR with the shuttle, though. AnneB: How did you manage to close the ring, steph? claudia from x.x.x.239 joined the chat 7 hours ago claudia: hi girls! AnneB: Hi Claudia! Winkerbill: I think I used a 3rd shuttle to do it, though....carried the thread with the core thread till I needed it, I think....or something like that....I'd have to go find the pattern and figure it out again. Susan: hi Claudia AKTATTER: yes Steph did you do a reverse Riego ring in order to throw rings off both sides? Winkerbill: but that's one of those things that would be MUCH faster and easier with a needle AnneB: Yes - that would do the trick! AKTATTER: ah the third shuttle would make it easier claudia: hi georgia Winkerbill: I don't think so....I am pretty sure there was a 3rd shuttle involved for the 2 or 3 rings in that pattern that required it....then you fastened off the 3rd shuttle and hid the ends and kept going on the rest of the heart. Winkerbill: I know for sure it was a heart, though.... Rosemarie: Listen ladies, I have my hands full with just two shuttles. :-) Winkerbill: Anne had a good idea for when you use several shuttles - wear wrist warmers and tuck the "extra" shuttles in to keep them out of your way while you tat AKTATTER: Hey Rosemarie, that Tatted Colonial Lady the person sold you was from the Workbasket Aug 6 1954. Winkerbill: I ended up makking several pairs of wrist warmers just because it was such a great idea! AnneB: I once made a motif using 3 pairs of shuttles, would not recomend it though - and certainly not witout wrist warmers LOL - thanks Steph skfuller from x.x.x.162 joined the chat 7 hours ago skfuller: Hello Georgia and all Susan: maybe I should make some with magnets for my needles...lol AKTATTER: welcome Susan AnneB: Hi Sue! Susan: hi Susan AnneB: And hi Susan! skfuller: I like the idea of wrist warmers. Definitely going to try that. Rosemarie: I saw a photo of the finished piece, and really liked it. I never thought that I would actually find the pattern. It was only a couple of dollars and no S&H. Gina from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 7 hours ago Gina: hi everyone Susan: hi Gina AnneB: Hi Gina and Mary Jane Winkerbill: hi Gina and everyone who got here when I wasn't looking.... mjb from x.x.x.70 joined the chat 7 hours ago Winkerbill: brb...gonna check on my tea.... mjb: Hello everybody Rosemarie: I'll make a notation on the pattern that it came from Workbasket, Aug6, 1954. Thanks Georgia. Susan: hi MJ mjb: Hi Susan and AnneB AKTATTER: Lily Morales recreated an antique 1896 pattern using 12 shuttles http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/1896/1896.html AKTATTER: scroll down the page to rainbow sherbet AKTATTER: hello mary jane! mjb: Hello AK see you Saturday Susan: that is such a pretty pattern AKTATTER: wahoo! glad to know you are coming too, Dorcas says there will 6-7? claudia: hi g! AnneB: Hope she had wrist warmers or similar LOL that is awesome mjb: Hope it doesn't rain on us Mary Maynard from x.x.x.241 joined the chat 7 hours ago Susan: hi Mary claudia: hi mary Gina: how do you keep track of 12 shuttles??? Mary Maynard: Hi all Winkerbill: color? Susan: numbered? AKTATTER: Occhi 1 & 2 ------------------------------- Gisela Graff-Hofgen (German) Gisela's work with a hanky edging was the first time I saw more than two shuttles at work on the same edging, it was like the rainbow sherbet but only one side, three colors three shuttles three balls for the chains. Mary Maynard: 12 shuttles by color & color of thread Winkerbill: I have a friend who has tiny colored dots she sticks on her Aero shuttles to tell them apart when the pattern uses more than 1 shuttle/pair Mary Maynard: Betty Alderson used colored dots Cynthia from x.x.x.183 joined the chat 7 hours ago Mary Maynard: to mark pairs of shuttles Mary Maynard: Hi Cynthia Winkerbill: tiny stick on dots? yeah, that's what my friend uses. Gina: wow that is so far beyond me.... AKTATTER: right if not for the colors Gina it would be hard, but Betty Alberson once worked a four shuttle pattern that was monochrome and had such a hard time, she asked me to make her 4 large but narrow shuttles and instead of putting her name on this set, she had me to put shuttle 1, shuttle 2 etc. Winkerbill: and if you have to , you can use a pen to write "A" and "B" on the matching colors of dots....or number them or something Mary Maynard: If you watch the color of thread that comes next it is easier Cynthia: Hi I may have to leave quick we have a nasty supercell that may drop a tornado on central OK...IF I say bye and run I'll let someone know how it went asap picotsnkeys from x.x.x.5 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER: cynthia be careful! Susan: take care Winkerbill: wow, good luck Cynthia. Don't wait too long to get to shelter if anything happens AKTATTER: mary thanks for the note about the blocks Gina: good luck! Mary Maynard: Take care of you, Cynthis Cynthia: I will I don't take chances...I run for the basement of the AG bldg a designated shelter Rosemarie: Yes, stay safe! picotsnkeys: take care Cynthia. congrats to your daughter! AnneB: Keep an eye on the weather Cynthia - and take care! Mary Maynard: I am getting done with the blocks. Ak skfuller: Hope that bad cell goes away fast! Cynthia: They usually give us at least 5 minutes....I was listening to the weather radio...and didn't notice the time Mary Maynard: I keep pinning and repinning Winkerbill: hehehehe.....in GA I used to keep my tatting in a bag, thread, patterns, extra shuttles....so I could grab it in a hurry if I had to get out. Cynthia: I grab tatting, dog, meds, bagpipe... Cynthia: note the order...lol Winkerbill: and the more stressed out I was, the bigger the bag got. AnneB: if I'm quiet for a long while today it is because I'm stitching dragon flies to my adopted block Mary Maynard: AK do you have a link to the lesson for today? Susan: tatted dragonflies? Mary Maynard: I just got in AnneB: Yes - to early for live ones yet Winkerbill: and I used to go out with my pockets stuffed with tatting and shuttles, too....in case th car conked out, which it had a habit of doing on a semi-regular basis for a while. ;-) Susan: lol Mary Maynard: Did you all know that everything you need for tatting will fit in a cigarette case? Winkerbill: I FINALLY found a 5-pointed star that looked like it would be perfect for my block, so all I need to do is sew now.... Susan: needles are too long AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 sent out an invitation 7 hours ago Mary Maynard: Susan do you only needle tat? AnneB: Would a cigar case do for needles? Susan: yes, I'm afraid so,... Winkerbill: if you use tiny thread and Clover shuttles, plus have the pattern memorized, all you need will fit in ...um...your bra....or a jeans pocket.... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/potpourri.html AKTATTER: don't forget the main class page www.georgiaseitz.com AKTATTER: has the link to the lesson by year Susan: hmm, maybe Anne AKTATTER: this year http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/2010index.html AKTATTER: I once used a plastic toothbursh holder to store my tatting needles Cynthia: true Mary but not all my other stuff....lol I keep it in a diaper bag...ready to grab and run..it is roomy and sturdy... AKTATTER: butI soondiscovered that there was a drainage hole in the bottom AnneB: Um - seems like the patterns goes with the shuttle in the bra AKTATTER: and needle kept falling out! AKTATTER: ok let's get started AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Winkerbill: the problem with the Clovers is if you move around too much and forget theyr'e in there, they poke you and it hurts.... Winkerbill: ;-) Susan: Susan Cuss, susancuss@yahoo.com, McArthurs Mills, Ontario Gina: gina shillitani deastrega@yahoo.com tampa, fl usa shuttle claudia: claudia meza, cloelo@gmail.com, argentina Winkerbill: Stephanie W. in western North Carolina USA Cynthia: duct tape on the bottom AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway, solurab @ online.no AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ aktatter@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA skfuller: Sue Fuller, Loveland CO, rlskfuller@ comcast.net picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA Mary Maynard: Mary Maynard Laramie WY USA tattnmary@bresnan.net AKTATTER: WELCOME MEL AND KRIS Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK brasthatfit @ yahoo.com beadntat from x.x.x.33 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER: OUR LESSON TODAY IS A STRANGE MIXTURE Rosemarie: Rosemarie Weber, rweb53@verizon.net, Baltimore, Maryland, USA Cynthia: but fun AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/potpourri.html beadntat: Kristina Plaas, Knoxville,TN beadntat@yahoo.com AKTATTER: WHAT DID YOU ALL THINK OF THE RED PANTIES??? WAHOO mjb: Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana USA Cynthia: cute but not practical...lol Susan: hot stuff AKTATTER: http://www.instructables.com/id/Tatted-Lace-Panties-even-if-you-dont-tat/ Susan: too hot for this mama beadntat: ummm, strange indeed! the red dodad certainly doesn't meet my defintion of "panties" Mary Maynard: For someone a little smaller? Winkerbill: i thought with a little adaptation it might be just the thing to tuck in a too-deep V neckline.... mjb: Are you making some AK Mary Maynard: Wink you might have something AKTATTER: MAYBE IF THEY WERE LINED WITH SATIN OR SATEEN LIKE A BAG IT MIGHT BE A CUTE THING FOR BRIDES? beadntat: play thing is a better word for them ;-P Cynthia: good idea Steph!!!!!! I like it.... Susan: yes AKTATTER: ME MARY JANE? GOSH IT WOULD TAKE 100 OF THE MOTIFS TO COVER MY BACKSIDE ALONE LOL Mary Maynard: AK the 'panties' are the only thing I doulc get up? Is there more? lucette from x.x.x.207 left this message 6 hours ago: I am in the online class but I dont write because my name in not indicated !! beadntat: could applique the triangle motif on the front of something a little more substantive if you want more function than form AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN AND CLICK ON JOIN CHAT LUCETTE Winkerbill: ummmmm.....Georgia....I'​m not sure there WAS a 'backside' to thos panties. I think it was a narrow ribbon up the back.... beadntat: ROFLOL AK!!! Susan: hi Lucette AKTATTER: YOU ARE SHOWING ON MY SCREEN lucette from x.x.x.207 joined the chat 6 hours ago Winkerbill: hi Lucette AKTATTER: OH MY WAS IT A THONG?? EEK Winkerbill: glad you were able to join us! Cynthia: I don't think the panties are meant to wear for long!!!!!!!!!!! Mary Maynard: EEK is right AK Cynthia: Hi Lucette AKTATTER: ONTHE PANTY PAGE MARY THERE ARE OTHER LINKS YOU CAN CHECK OUT LATER AKTATTER: BIENVENUE LUCETTE GLAD YOU MADE IT nstitcher from x.x.x.215 joined the chat 6 hours ago beadntat: righto cyn...that's why I said play thing! Winkerbill: I think I'll stick with filing up a too-low neckline with them.... AKTATTER: WE JUST CHECKED OUT SOME LINGERIE THAT WAS TATTER, http://www.instructables.com/id/Tatted-Lace-Panties-even-if-you-dont-tat/ AKTATTER: WELCOME NIN Cynthia: me too Wink nstitcher: hi everyone sorry I'm late AKTATTER: THERE WERE OTHER WEARABLES ON THE LIST TODAY AKTATTER: http://www.artedeldettaglio.com/eng/clothing-articles-and-accessories.php nstitcher: Nina Richardson denver, co myneedlenews@gmail.com shuttle mostly beadntat: I think I am either too old for such, shall we say frivolity? or I will never be old enough for such things Susan: nice, classic lucette: Hello all the tatters : today it is very difficult to enter I dont know for wat !! Cynthia: those are a lot better! and no you aren't too old just too practical! AKTATTER: SOMETIMES THE COMPUTERS ARE CONTRARY LUCETTE beadntat: ummm, too modest! AKTATTER: CLICK ON FOR THE CEREMONY ALSO AKTATTER: i WOULD SWEAR THAT BUTTERFLY ONT HE BRIDAL GOWN IS FROM ONE OF THE PRISCILLA TATTING BOOKS! beadntat: The Wedding ensemble on the French site was mind-blowing!!! Talk about applique... Yowser! Cynthia: those panties are hung out inside the pillow cases in my grama's view but she did that will ALL panties and bras... picotsnkeys: I can think of 100's of uses for a triangle motif that doesn't have to be hidden from the public! lol lucette: Yes georgia the computers is very difficult sometime Cynthia: me too mel AKTATTER: THE LITTLE DOLL AND THE LITTLE BASKET WERE MY FAVORITES lucette: No I not made the string !!! beadntat: Thats what I thought too AK...the netting, the b'fly, the whole thing screams Priscilla Book (or Julia Sanders book reprint) AKTATTER: CHECK OUT THE 2ND PHOTO THE TOP OF THE BRIDAL GOWN, THERE IS A HOLE NEAR THE BELLY BUTTON??? picotsnkeys: I thought so too....great minds??? Mary Maynard: Yeah Cynthia: I loved the tiny parasol lucette: Where is the tiny parasol cynthia ? AKTATTER: THE BUTTERFLY TO HOLD THE CANDIED ALMONDS WAS CUTE BUT IT WOULD HAVE TO BE REALLY TINY THREAD TO KEEP THEM FROM FALLING OUT beadntat: Yeah, I could've lived without the navel exposure....really distracted from teh whole lovely esthetic IMHO. Cynthia: I'll check the page AKTATTER: HERE LUCETTE http://www.artedeldettaglio.com/eng/items-for-the-ceremony.php AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN MIDWAY ONTHE RIGHT IS THE UMBRELLA picotsnkeys: I thought it was a skirt and blouse. beadntat: I think the b'fly was attached to netting or some sort of crinoline for shaping Cynthia: For the ceremony has the umbrella AKTATTER: MAYBE YOU ARE RIGHT MEL BUT i COULDN'T APPRECIATE THE HOLE THERE lucette: This site is very beautifull thank you picotsnkeys: It would need a serious bling in the navel lol AKTATTER: BUT LOOK AT THE WEDDING RING HOLDER http://www.artedeldettaglio.com/eng/items-for-the-ceremony.php Winkerbill: i was thinking the 'hole' was some sort of beige colored 'top' for the underneath part of the dress.... and I was wishing she'd used white instead....but maybe it WAS a hole AKTATTER: DELICATE WORK SIZE 40 OR FINER CERTAINLY beadntat: you're probably right...they designer wanted to show off a navel piercing I'll bet. (yuck!) lucette: The weddy ring is very nice AKTATTER: THIS APPLIQUE ONTO NETTING OR TULLE IS SOMETHING WE SHOULD EXPERIMENT WITH I THINK AKTATTER: OK ON TO THE PATTERNS Mary Maynard: That might be fun to do AK picotsnkeys: I do like that butterfly shaped pillow. Much more imaginative than a square pillow. AKTATTER: GINA BUTLER DISCOVERED A SECTION OF HER CROSS DIAGRAM WAS MISSING AND IT HAS BEEN RESTORED AKTATTER: i AGREE MEL beadntat: I've thought about it before, esp since I have tatted some of the motifs from the Priscilla book before AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/ginabcross5.html beadntat: the ring bearer's pillow was to die for! Love it...can see people making that one AKTATTER: THE CROSS IS A VERY BASIC RING AND CHAIN REPEAT VERY SIMILAR TO OUR FAMILAR BOO BOO CROSS Cynthia: definitely...storm buzzer brb lucette: this cross is very good to do AKTATTER: WITH THE EXCEPTION OF THE 4 RINGS JOINED IN THE CENTER Cynthia: north of us...I can stay a bit longer... AKTATTER: I AGREE WITH YOU KRIS IT WAS A KNOCKOUT beadntat: there are several holes where the photos once were in the oldest class archives (pinkpig days) AKTATTER: GOOD CYN BUT GET THAT FEATHER BED READY TO COWER ON THAT'S WHAT iI DO Susan: take care, Cynthia lucette: I have made in tatting a cross for a communion girl I hope you understant AKTATTER: KRIS YOU KEEP FINDING THE HOLES AND I'LL KEEP PLUGGING THEM UP AND RESTORING THEM ONLINE Winkerbill: Cynthia, don't wait too long.... Gina: yes I understand lucette AKTATTER: OH YES CROSSES ARE GREAT GIFTS WITH A NEW BIBLE FOR CONFIRMATION AND WEDDINGS TOO LUCETTE Cynthia: I'll be here a bit longer..and I don't take chances....the one right now will be about 40 miles north Winkerbill: Lucette that sounds like a very good gift for a child making her first communion. Mary Maynard: Also nice to include in sympathy cards beadntat: nasty weather your way cyn....hope it doesn't come to East TN when it gets through in OK/ARK lucette: Yes it is nice to include in a communion card AKTATTER: JUST BEAR IN MIND THAT RING 9 ON THE DIAGRAMM WILL HAVE A PICOT INTO WHICH THE OTHER 3 RINGS ARE JOINED picotsnkeys: I've tatted crosses to sew on knitted baby blankets for the Hospital to give out to folks that need something Winkerbill: hehehe....I can see it now, you're sitting at the computer with your tatting bag and dog on your lap, bagpipes in one hand ready to run out the door.... ;-) AKTATTER: HEY THE DOG CAN WALK! AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CROSS PATTERN? Winkerbill: I SURE don't miss the tornado watches/warnings we used to get in GA.... Winkerbill: the cross pattern reminds me of one of my favorite cross bookmark patterns....it's a little different, but very similar in many ways Cynthia: The dog runs by my side I just hold the leash... AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE DIANNA STEVENS PATTERN http://web.archive.org/web/20041101063404/www.domesticarts.com/Patterns/needlecollar.html Winkerbill: makes me want to make one.... AKTATTER: A DOG STEPH? AKTATTER: i ONLY ASK BECAUSE mARK mYERS HAS BEEN WORKING ON A DACHSHUND LATELY :) lucette: The collar is very beautifull georgia Winkerbill: no, I like big dogs, it would take too long to tat a 100-pound monster.... AKTATTER: DIANNA'S COLLAR WAS MADE USING LARGE SPORT WEIGHT YARN SO IF TATTING IT IN FINE THREAD THERE WILL BE MORE REPEATS TO FIT AROUND THE NCEK AKTATTER: DIANNA ALSO NEEDLE TATTED THIS COLLAR WHICH IS WHY IT WAS BROUGHT TO MY ATTENTION beadntat: a dachsy tatting pattern???? no way! I want one!!! I have a little wiener doggie :-) Winkerbill: any idea how sport weight yarn 'measures up' compared to thread sizes? size 3, maybe? AKTATTER: A SHUTTLE TATTER WANTED TO KNOW HOW TO DO IT IN SHUTTLE TATTING nstitcher: . AKTATTER: I BET HE HAS IT POSTED VERY SOON KRIS AKTATTER: CHECK MARK'S SITE LATER http://www.tat-man.net AKTATTER: LUCKILY FOR HER, THERE IS NO DIFFERENCE IN TATTING HTE PATTERN beadntat: A #3 pearl cotton would be close, but more like a fingering wt yarn really AKTATTER: JUST TAT THE RING OR CHAIN IN YOUR PREFERRED METHOD JUST AS THE PATTERNS READS Susan: . Rosemarie: I'ts hard to believe that sport weight yarn could work up to look so elegant. Winkerbill: using yarn, you'd have to close rings more gently, I guess? AKTATTER: I USED SPORT WEIGHT YARN ON THE NEEDLES WHEN WORKING UP SOME BABY CLOTHES FOR NEWBORNS IN NEED TYPE PROJECT beadntat: THX AK I'll check w/ Mark. He usu. announces his new patterns on the Yahoo groups so I know what he is up to Winkerbill: such a pretty collar - makes me want to make one of THOSE, too! mjb: k AKTATTER: OH YES THE SPORT WEIGHT IS "FUZZY" SO YOU NEED TO CLOSE CAREFULLY picotsnkeys: or use a crochet cotton as the core yarn and wrap with just the sport yarn Linda from x.x.x.7 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: THE WRITTEN INSTRUCTIONS FOR THE COLLAR ARE GIVEN INTHE LESSON. Mary Maynard: it also has some 'give AKTATTER: WELCOME LINDA AnneB: There is a Norwegian designer who uses everything that kan be made into a knot for tatting Winkerbill: hmm...and tat a bit looser than usual if you're using the shuttle.... Winkerbill: hi Linda Linda: Hi, Sorry I'm late! Mary Maynard: and must be done carefully] AKTATTER: IS THAT YOU ANNE? beadntat: Ther are so many yummy yarns now that would tat much better than wools or acrylics. The bamboo and soy based yarns (all a form of rayon) would needle tat splendidly Winkerbill: i've tatted with anything I could get onto a shuttle but prefer cotton threads. AnneB: LOL, no - his name is Gunnar Fon - I'll look for a page AKTATTER: FOR SHUTTLE TATTERS YOU WOULD NEED BEADS ON BOTH SHUTTLES OR SHUTTLE AND ON THE BALL FOR NEEDLE TATTERSS ALL THE BEAD GO ON THE BALL THREAD Lorna from x.x.x.136 joined the chat 6 hours ago Mary Maynard: Yeah, check the yarn shops AKTATTER: OH GREAT Susan: I love the bamboo...silky Winkerbill: oh, the bamboo yarns feel so nice in your hands, too! AKTATTER: WELCOME LORNA Linda: Linda Harrington, Largo, MD, l_m_harrington@yahoo.com​ AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON DIANNA'S COLLAR? Lorna: so sorry. I completely forgot about class. Winkerbill: hi Lorna Mary Maynard: there is a seasilk made with seaweed and silk that is dreany to tat AnneB: http://www.mamut.net/galleriramfjord/subdet166.htm AKTATTER: GLAD YOU MADE IT ANYTIME LORNA beadntat: I've seen some of that way out stuff in tatting as well as knitting and crochet..crazy materials! Lorna: Hi everyone Mary Maynard: Daina 's patterns are so good AnneB: http://am.uis.no/category.php?categoryID=6093 Lorna: could I have the link please beadntat: YUM seasilk!!! AKTATTER: THOSE RINGS ARE HUGE!! Mary Maynard: Yeah seasilk AKTATTER: HERE LORNA http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/potpourri.html Mary Maynard: it is so yummy Lorna: thanks georgia AKTATTER: WE ARE MIVING NOW FROM DIANNA'S COLLAR TO THE BUTTERFLIES SHARED BY MARLENE LEWIS Mary Maynard: There is a weaver locally who gets in in & does have some for sale Mary Maynard: colors are great also AKTATTER: HAUTE COUTURE! Rosemarie: k Cynthia: I love the butterflies AKTATTER: i WAS GLAD TO SEE THOSE PAGES aNNE THANKS lucette: oui georgia ! in french !!! Mary Maynard: I like these better beadntat: I know lots of lace knitters that use seasilk for shawls, but my budget has yet to allow me to try it...and no one selss it locally so I would have to order sight unseen not great for the dear stuff Mary Maynard: If you will email me direct, I will be glad to share a few samples with you Beadntat beadntat: Couture indeed! Stunning designs :-) AKTATTER: MARIA FROM mEXICO JUST SENT IN ONE OF MARLENE'S EARLIER BUTTERFLIES IT;S IN THE HOMEWORK LISTINGS Winkerbill: i've never seen seasilk locally, but there IS a yarn shop in town (here) that has the bamboo yarn. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/mariaabfly.jpg beadntat: Thx Mary! Mary Maynard: Look forward to sharing Winkerbill: what a lovely butterfly Maria! Linda: Very nice butterfly AKTATTER: TODAY WE HAVE THE LAST TWO OF MARLENE'S 6 BUTTERFLIES lucette: Very beautifll maria Lorna: Love the tatted panties..lol.... would have to triple the number of flowers to fit.. ROFL AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ marlenelewisbflyonev1.jp​g Susan: lovely, Maria! beadntat: pretty bfly Maria! I love teh solid color...really adds to the look :-) AKTATTER: triple? you're lucky lorna I WOULD HAVE TO DO AT LEAST 100! skfuller: couldn't get into that last link AK - just me or not? beadntat: I started tatting Donna's bfly last night...on the 2nd wing l Susan: no, I couldn't either Cynthia: me neither... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflyonev1.jp%u200Bg mjb: skfuller., I couldn't either Rosemarie: me neiither AKTATTER: TRY AGAIN I SEE IT MaryM from x.x.x.241 joined the chat 6 hours ago skfuller from x.x.x.162 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: DONNA'S BUTTERFLY IS DONE IN THE STYLE OF MARLENE'S EARLY BUTTERFLIES MaryM: Sorry hit the wrong button ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Visible content as of Tue May 11 02:13:35 2010 GMT (174 KB) Page 2 of 4 - Char 51246 to 102471 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ mjb: I found it., thanks Rosemarie: k AKTATTER: BEGINNING WITH THE ANTENNAE, HEAD AND THORAX mjb: very pretty in green beadntat: But Donna's bfly isn't as husky-looking as some of teh others AKTATTER: NOTE RING C IS AN OFF-CENER SPLIT RING AKTATTER: FROM THERE WE DO THE WINGS, INNER RING, OUTER RING AND THE CHAINS AROUND IT AND MOVE DOWN INTO THE LOWER RING beadntat: I was not well last night...couldn't wrap my head around teh JK starts...I starte with the SR head and will add teh antennae later skfuller: Still couldn't BUT in the address window saw that the end of the link instead of just .jpg AKTATTER: THE ANTENNAE ARE JOSEPHINE KNOTS lucette: I like very much Josephine knots AKTATTER: I TYPE IT AGAIN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflyonev1.jpg Lorna: the butterfly looks like something I can actually do with you all skfuller: said .jp%u200Bg so if you still don't get photo take out the %u200B skfuller: That on works great!!! Cynthia: for me too... Susan: finally got it AKTATTER: YOU WILL REMEMBER THIS LESSON http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk.html WHERE THE JK IS MADE USING JUST ONE HALF STITCH REPEATS SEVERAL TIMES Rosemarie: I'm in, too AKTATTER: THE CHAIN IS DONE THE SAME WAY Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: OK GOOD AKTATTER: WELCOME RIET MaryM: Hi Riet AKTATTER: WE AER LOOKING AR MARLENE'S BUTERFLY http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk.html Cynthia: second half on 1 and first half on the second....that way they mirror image each other AKTATTER: OPPS Riet de B-engel: Hi All Winkerbill: hi Riet! Cynthia: Hi Riet AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflyonev1.jpg beadntat: For me the thing was having 2 shuttles with JK and hs chain on each one, then trying to get them to come together for a SR beadntat: I am a still a bit rusty on my fancy tatting techniques though nstitcher: . AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 sent out an invitation 6 hours ago Cynthia: it is challenging when you don;'t do 1 part at a time and look at it all together...flummoxed me too beadntat: Too mcu lace knitting, not enough tatting I guess :-) nstitcher: wish I could be rusty on ripping out AKTATTER: SO IF YOU LOOK AT THE DONNA'S BFLY YOU CAN FOLLOW THE PATTERN OK? AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? mjb: no Cynthia: rippit frog tatting or untatting maybe I should say.... Winkerbill: i generally use big thread and don't pay too much attention to how "nice" (or symmetrical) it is the first time through something like this, then I can 'refine' what I did after I kind of tough my way through it once. beadntat: the rest of Donna's is straightforward, only the start is tricky AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE SECOND BUTTERFLY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflythree.jpg Lorna from x.x.x.136 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: THIS ONE IS A LITTLE SIMPLER nstitcher: rippit tatting, sewing, embroidering, crocheting..... sigh Winkerbill: or i practice the tricky spot (the start of the b-fly) a few times with 'scrap' thread before I do the 'real thing' sometimes, too. lucette: very nice butterfly AKTATTER: A LITTLE CROCHETED ANTENNAE BUT YOU COULD JUST TAT A CHAIN TOO AKTATTER: AGAIN THE SPLIT RING FOR THE HEAD AKTATTER: WB LORNA AKTATTER: BUT THE STRANGE PAR TIS Winkerbill: a lock stitch chain would be nice for the antenna instead of crocheting, too. picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: THE HEAD RING AND ANTENNAE ARE DONE LAST THIS TIME! AKTATTER: INSTEAD WE BEGIN WITH THE BODY RING THE THORAX AKTATTER: THIS CAN BE A RING OR A SELF CLOSING MOCK RING Cynthia: or a double balanced stitch or a double double stitch or what every you want to call it Lorna: thanks, my mouse is out of controll MaryM: I see 1 & 3 but where is R2? AKTATTER: RIGHT THAT WOULD WORK WELL TOO CYN Winkerbill: balanced DS? That would work, but they're a bit too thick for my taste ....in b-fly antennas, at least. ;-) They work GREAT on doilies and motifs when a ring or chain is really huge ....gives it some added 'texture.' AKTATTER: NOTE ELEMENTS 2, 5, 29 AND 32 ARE NOT RINGS! AKTATTER: THEY ARE CHAINS AKTATTER: AND EACH OF THEM THROWS OFF FLOATING RINGS MaryM: Okay found it MaryM: Noticed that too AK AKTATTER: AND THAT IS THE REASON THAT THE PATTERN CALLS FOR 2 SHUTTLES WOUND CTM Rosemarie: k AKTATTER: NOW THE NEXT TRICKY PART AKTATTER: WHERE BEFORE WE WENT AROUND THE BOTTOM AND UP THE OTHER SIDE AKTATTER: NOT THIS TIME AKTATTER: AFTER THE LAST RING , #11 AKTATTER: CHAIN 12 BEGINS THE CLIMB BACK UP THE RIGHT HAND SIDE! AKTATTER: ALL CHAINS UP TO POINT 22 WHICH IS A FLOATING RING AKTATTER: AND THE NEXT LINE OF CHAINS EACH HAS A FLOATING RING ON THEM AKTATTER: WHIC BRINGS US BACK TO THE BOTTOM OF RING 1 AKTATTER: THEN DO THE SAME ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE AKTATTER: ANY QUESITONS ON THE METHOD HERE? AKTATTER: OK GREAT! MaryM: How many ds in the floating rings on that chain Susan: not yet MaryM: can't see them on the pattern MaryM: rings 233 - 28 MaryM: 23 - 28 AKTATTER: CH 23 = 10 AKTATTER: SO I FIGURE CH 5 TOR CH5 Susan: 23=10, 24-27=5, 28=3 MaryM: you saind there were floating rings? AKTATTER: OR WAIT MaryM: or is it just a plain chain Cynthia: Rputting the numbers in circles can look like rings--floating chains.... MaryM: joining at picots AKTATTER: SORRY ONLY THE CHAIN 21 HAS THE FLOATING RING skfuller: I'm not seeing them either, just looks like chain scallops on top of wings to me MaryM: on the pattern but ont on the butterfly shown? beadntat: CH 12 & 29 don't have st counts that I can see, but I presume 5 or 6 would do AKTATTER: CHAINS 23 - 28 HAVE NOT FLOATING RINGS JUST CHAINS AKTATTER: I GOT CARRIED AWAY WITH THE TOR AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESITONS? mjb: no AKTATTER: OK THEN ON TO THE ZAHRA'S WORK AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/bruges/brugesjm.html skfuller: that's easy to do AK AKTATTER: THERE IS A SAMPLE OF ZAHRA;S WORK USING TATTING WIRH BRUGES CROCHET AKTATTER: SHE REFERED TO AN OLDER LESSON BY JANE MOODY skfuller: I'm still having trouble concentrating on any of these after Cynthia: 12 has 11 and 29 repeats 2 I think;;; skfuller: seeing that 1st butterfly on the wedding gown! AKTATTER: I KNOW WHAT YOU MEAN SUE, I FEEL HUMBLED BY THAT TATTER'S WORK beadntat: ethereal down to more ordinary tatting, HUH SK? lucette: I am look at the site of Zahra this morning and it is very nice tatting with Bruges crochet AKTATTER: THE DIRECTIONS FOR THE BRUGES CROCHETED STRIPS ARE GIVEN THERE AASO skfuller: Love that 3rd sample AKTATTER: ZAHRA SEEMS TO BE USING A METALLIC THREAD ALSO skfuller: I can see that forming part of a large butterfly AKTATTER: SURE SUE IT HAS LOTS OF POSSIBLITES beadntat: never done Bruges before, but Lacis in CA is doing a big workshop this summer on Bruges...big-name teacher from Europe (sorry, forgot name)...just in case anyone is interested AKTATTER: I KNOW IN DECADES PAST AKTATTER: THE STANDARD WAS NOT TO MIX MEDIUMS MaryM: third sample uses mile a minute right? AKTATTER: BUT TODAY I THINK THE MIXING OF MEDIUMS LEADS TO GREATER ARTISTRY MaryM: agree with you AK skfuller: Wow, would I love to go to that workshp Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 6 hours ago beadntat: I saw quite a bit of mixing in the 50's and 60s Workbasket magazines, mostly braid and tatting or crochet & tatting though AKTATTER: ME TOO! AKTATTER: WB RITE Susan: I agree AKTATTER: OK NOW LOOK AT DAGMAR'S WORK AKTATTER: DAGMAR HAS BEEN VERY BUSY RECENTLY. AKTATTER: WE HAVE SEEN HER HOMWORK ON THE INDEX PAGE SEVERAL TIMES MaryM: I got the brog but not Dagmar MaryM: link? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/2010index.html AKTATTER: this time DAGMAR ASKED FOR A CRITIQUE AKTATTER: THAT WAS VERY BRAVE OF HER AKTATTER: HER WORK IS LOVELY beadntat: oops! I lied, workshop is Irish crochet http://lacismuseum.org/classes/registration/ClonesLace.pdf AKTATTER: SHE NEEDS NO CRITIWUE FROM ME nstitcher: . AKTATTER: ONLY A NOTE ABOUT SPLIT RINGS USED FOR CLIMBING OUT CAME TO MIND skfuller: Irish Crochet is even better! Cynthia: I'd be happy doing that well.... AKTATTER: THERE ARE SOME LNKS TO REVIEW LATER IF YOU HAVE TIME AKTATTER: THE NEWBIE'S ROUND ROBIN CENTER PIECE CLIMB OUT RING WAS AWKWARDLY MADE AND IS OBVIOUS AKTATTER: WE SHOULD STRIVE TO TAT IT SO IT APPEARS NO DIFFERENT FROM THE OTHRES AKTATTER: OK SOME OF YOU ARE ON TATLIST??? skfuller: I love the clunies around the top though I think they would show better Cearbhael from x.x.x.82 joined the chat 6 hours ago MaryM: What do I click on to bring up Dagmar's work? AKTATTER: CLICK ONT HE PHOTO skfuller: without the glittery beads to overshadow them! AKTATTER: WE ARE SHOWING HER CLUNY BAG AND ROSARY Cearbhael: Oh my I really got here at the right time or am I late?? I get so confused AKTATTER: OK THIS WEEK MARK MYERS SHARED A DIAGRM AND PATTERN AKTATTER: WELCOME CEAR Cynthia: That is always the case wanting to make the climb out look like all the others Susan: wonderful work AKTATTER: YOU ARE EXACLTY ONE HOUR LATE BUT THAT IS OK YOUARE ALWAYS WELCOME MAKE NOTE OF THE TIME AT YOUR HOUSE FOR NEXT LESSON Cearbhael: so 2 my time AKTATTER: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatpatterns/scallop_edging2.jpg AKTATTER: THAT IS THE DIAGRAM beadntat: nifty edging! AKTATTER: ARE YOU CENTRAL TIME ZONE CEAR? AKTATTER: HERE IS THE PATTERN Riet de B-engel: the diagram is ok the written pattern has mistakes AKTATTER: Scallop: RA: 8-8, CLR, RW RB: 3-3-3-3-6-6, CLR, RW CH: 4, RW *RC: 3+(to last p of RB)3-6-6-6-6, CLR, RW CH: 6, RW RD: 6+(to last p of RC)6-6-6-6-6-6-6, CLR, RW CH: 6, RW RE: 6+(to last p of RD)6-6-6-3-3, CLR, RW CH: 4, RW RF: 6+(to last p of RE)6-3-3-3-3, CLR, DO NOT RW This completes one scallop. AKTATTER: Split Ring arch: SRG: 6/8+(to p of RA)2, CLR SRH: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRI: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRJ: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRK: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRL: 6/2-8, CLR, DO NOT RW AKTATTER: Start of next Scallop: RM: 3-3-3+(to middle p of RF)3-6-6, CLR, RW* Repeat from * to * as many times as you need for length. AKTATTER: AND HERE IS RIET'S VERSION OF THE PATTERN JUST POSTED: AKTATTER: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Here-Be-Tatters/photos/album/1213274435/pic/1555214383/view? prop=eupdate Riet de B-engel: The * has to be in front of the cjhain above ring AKTATTER: AND ANOTHER VERSION OF IT http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Here-Be-Tatters/photos/album/176892467/pic/473303345/view?prop=eupdate AKTATTER: YOU MIGHT NEED TO JOIN THE GROUP TO SEE THE POHTOS BUT IT IS A GREAT GROUP Cynthia: Cearbhael it repeats tonight at 8 central time.... picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: OK CORRECTION: AKTATTER: Scallop: RA: 8-8, CLR, RW RB: 3-3-3-3-6-6, CLR, RW *CH: 4, RW RC: 3+(to last p of RB)3-6-6-6-6, CLR, RW AKTATTER: iS IT CORRECT NOW RIET? Winkerbill: class repeats at 7:30 central time, doesn't it? We're at 8:30 here....on Mondays....right? Riet de B-engel: Yes thank you skfuller: beautiful edging - would look great on the front edge of a top Cearbhael: ok beadntat: you know, Mark's scallop motif would be amazing tatted in segments, then applied to fabric or net, say around the edge of a neckline on a top or something? AKTATTER: YES CLASS IS 8:30pm ET (NEW YORK TIME) SO 7:30PM ET CENTRAL TIME beadntat: great minds think alike! Ruth_Perry from x.x.x.164 joined the chat 6 hours ago skfuller: they sure do Cearbhael: the afternoon classes are much more convenient for me if I can get it right Winkerbill: hi Ruth! AKTATTER: I REALLY ENJOYED THE ADDED GOLD THREAD RIET skfuller: Hi Ruth! Ruth_Perry: Hi all, sorry I'm late AKTATTER: OR EVEN ON A QUILT BLOCK? Cynthia: oops thining of Thursday....thanks Wink....Cearbhael I have it wrong and Wink has it right....so does AK...lol MaryM: Ak I have to go get my grandson from school. Today has been great thank you AKTATTER: WELCOME rUTH beadntat: very pretty Riet! MaryM: TTFN Rosemarie: k Cynthia: Hi Ruth... AKTATTER: BYE MARY AKTATTER: SPEAKING OF QUILT BLOCKS mjb: Hello Ruth will you be in Illinois Saturday too? AKTATTER: DONNA McDADE HAS PREPARED SOME GUIDES FOR EMBROIDERING OUR BLOCKS FOR THE PROJECT picotsnkeys: must go also. Thanks for all the great patterns and ideas. I'll check the log for the evening class also! picotsnkeys from x.x.x.5 left the chat 5 hours ago Ruth_Perry: No I'll be in Knoxville at grandson'd HS graduation AKTATTER: THE LINKS ARE ON THE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/2010index.html Riet de B-engel: Georgia the threads I used is metalic madeira no 20 color 2070 and I put 4 threads in gold to gether also mjb: We will miss you Winkerbill: i need to go, too. Thanks for class, Georgia. Bye everyone! Winkerbill from x.x.x.68 left the chat 5 hours ago beadntat: Knoxville!!! That's me! which HS is is graduating from??? AKTATTER: scroll down to may 3 please AKTATTER: bye septh AnneB: Need to concentrate on the lona all chain wings of the dragonfly AKTATTER: IT IS VERY PRETTY RIET AnneB: Now I konw to avoid those for later AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/buttonattachmentsampler2.jpg AKTATTER: THIS PHOTO SHOWS BUTTON ATTACHEMTN AND A FEATHERY STITCH Riet de B-engel: It is going on 1 of my quilt blogs AKTATTER: I THINK IT WILL BE NEAT ANNE AKTATTER: GREAT RIET mjb: Georgia., are you putting all the blocks together and making a quilt AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/buttonattachmentsampler1.jpg AnneB: Thanks- but they are not fun stitching to the block AKTATTER: THE NEXT ONE SHOWS THE Y STITCH IN MANY VARIATIONS AnneB: See you all next week! Ruth_Perry: beadntat, the HS is actually Lenoire City... greater Knoxville? AnneB from x.x.x.72 left the chat 5 hours ago AKTATTER: YES BUT I AM NOT DOIND IT ALONE MARY JANE, A PROFESSION QUILTER IS DOING MOST OF IT AKTATTER: BYE ANNE Rosemarie: Can't stay any longer. Thanks for another great class, Georgia. mjb: It will be lovely., do take pictures and show us Cearbhael: so I will try to make tonite's class...not sure about tonite's schedule but should be ok beadntat: Very close to me...Im in west knox...get my car serviced in Lenior City AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/blanketstitch.jpg Cearbhael: nice to meet everyone at least AKTATTER: THIS PHOTO SHOWS TEH USE OF THE BLANKET STITCH FAMILAR TO AL OF US I BELIEVE Susan: I have to go, too. Great class, Georgia. Thanks and bye all. AKTATTER: BYE ROSE AKTATTER: BYE SUSAN Cearbhael: thanks bye Cynthia: Cearbhael it is 8:30 eastern, 7:30 Central 6:30 Mountain Ruth_Perry: beadntat, email me privately and maybe we can get together sometime. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/herringbonestitch.jpg beadntat: will do....leave me your addy as I don't have it AKTATTER: AND LAST IT IS THE USE OF THE HERRING BONE STITCH WHICH SURPRISED ME WITH ALL THE COMBINATIONS AKTATTER: BYE CEAR mjb: Next time I will have to make one., I do quilt blocks. lucette: Bye every one and at next monday Cynthia: Those are so neat.... Ruth_Perry: my email is rjpoms on yahoo dot com Ruth_Perry: Georgia, did you get my block? skfuller: makes me want to pick up some fabric and embroidery needles Gina: I have to go for now AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS TO DONNA, ZAHRA, DAGMAR, MARLENE, DIANNA, MARK, GINA, AGASUNSET AND THE UNKNOWN ITALIAN TATTER FOR SHARING THEIR WORK WITH US TODAY Cynthia: Hope to make tonight...but the storms are expected to go until 10 or later...we'll see Gina: see y'all next week and Cynthia see you Thursday AKTATTER: MANTY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR STOPPING BY Cynthia: I'd not thought to use the herringbone that way. skfuller: Thank you Georgia and all who contributed today AKTATTER: THIS INFO REPEATS AT 8:30 PM ET TONIGHT Riet de B-engel: an american lady wrote a verry good book with hundreds of stitches for crazy quilting AKTATTER: NEITHER HAD I CYN Cynthia: Thursday as long as a storm doesn't get me tonight...lol AKTATTER: WAS THAT JUDITH RIET? Gina from x.x.x.74 left the chat 5 hours ago skfuller: Montano? beadntat: will do Ruth! Have a safe trip in ...hopefully the weatehr will warm up just a little.too cold today Linda from x.x.x.7 left the chat 5 hours ago Riet de B-engel: i don''t know i have the book can't find it AKTATTER: YES, RUTH I JUST CHECKED THE LIST AND I GOT YOUR BLOCK THANKS AGAIN Riet de B-engel: will search for it Cynthia: Take care everyone. Peace...I need to watch the storms and reports AKTATTER: ANY LAST QUESTIONS? skfuller: Best Wishes Cynthia Cynthia: don't worry I duck fast when they get close... Ruth_Perry: Be safe... storms are not fun Cynthia: Thanks Sue and Ruth and everyone Riet de B-engel: i will think on you and burn a candle AKTATTER: OK THEN SEE YOU AL NEXT TIME Ruth_Perry: Bye all skfuller: BYE AKTATTER: I LOOK FORWARD TO SAT MARY J AKTATTER: I LOOK FORWARD TO SAT MARY J beadntat: gotta run...thx AK, bye all! AKTATTER: BYE FOR NOW Riet de B-engel: bi bi AKTATTER from x.x.x.202 left the chat 5 hours ago elsif from x.x.x.26 joined the chat 5 hours ago elsif: Hi! I'm very new. elsif: Is the class over? Did I miss it? ginabea from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 3 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.220 joined the chat 2 hours ago AKTATTER: HI Gina ginabea from x.x.x.98 left this message 2 hours ago: hi! AKTATTER from x.x.x.220 sent out an invitation 2 hours ago AKTATTER: scroll down and click join chat gina FLTATTER from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 2 hours ago AKTATTER: welcome Jeremy FLTATTER: I FINALLY made it AKTATTER: glad to see you here FLTATTER: i just hope i dont lose signal AKTATTER: you got storms too? FLTATTER: no just weak wifi signal i pick up in the area AKTATTER: I'm going to go upload your tatting square to share tonight since you are here be right back FLTATTER: ok AKTATTER: got it FLTATTER: i have a few more i need to work on, i need to do improvements ginabea from x.x.x.98 left this message 2 hours ago: yes, I came through hail to get home - broke my windshield : ( ginabea from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 2 hours ago FLTATTER: i'm making name tags for my brothers band, i used jennis clef pattern so far its coming out great AKTATTER: oh rats that is awful, I am always wary of hail AKTATTER: good news Jeremy AKTATTER: not hhurt Gina? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/Granny_tatting_1_001.jpg FLTATTER: ahhhh you found it AKTATTER: yep ginabea: got stuck under an underpass for a bit - way too much traffic AKTATTER from x.x.x.220 sent out an invitation 2 hours ago AKTATTER: May 3, evening needle tatting session AKTATTER: are there any needle tatting questions? Lorna from x.x.x.136 joined the chat 2 hours ago AKTATTER: welcome back Lorna FLTATTER: i just have a tatting question but that can come later Lorna: thanks.... Lorna: Jeremy, that is gorgeous AKTATTER: anytime is ok Jeremy AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/Granny_tatting_2_001.jpg FLTATTER: thank you Lorna Mary_ND from x.x.x.75 joined the chat 2 hours ago AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/Granny_tatting_3.jpg AKTATTER: ok now all three are posted AKTATTER: welcome Mary Mary_ND: Hi all FLTATTER: i'll have more to come in the future which will also be posted on facebook Glenda from x.x.x.238 joined the chat 2 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.220 sent out an invitation 2 hours ago Glenda: Hi AKTATTER: welcome Glenda Lorna: I have been trying to decide how to do a baby blanket with tatting, I hadn't thought of joining grannies AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions for this half hour? AKTATTER: well Jeremy has a lot of experience tatting with larger threads Lorna FLTATTER: I came up with that idea just out of the blue, next 2 will be 2 shades of blues and 2 shades of purple FLTATTER: i was boredly insane lol AKTATTER: Ed and Selma Morin's Jiffy Needle Tatting books have lots of baby suitable tatting patterns Lorna: thats cool, I was toying with the idea of a mile-a-minute type of blanket Mary_ND: They are beautiful I like the contrast between the Red and White Katie V from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 2 hours ago FLTATTER: yeah i had a lot of leftovers i wanted to use up so i came up with that idea the next 2 i wont ad the border Katie V: Hi, AK and fellowtatters! Glenda: Hi Katie V Katie V: Hi, Glenda AKTATTER: welcome Katie AKTATTER: misty are you there? Katie V: Thank you, AK! so good to be here! AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions tonight anyone? Lorna: Jeremy, I would love to see your tatting on facebook if you want to add me FLTATTER: ok Lorna will do Lorna: I have a question AKTATTER: sure Lorna AKTATTER: here's the cover of the JNT big book, the others are smaller Lorna but for gosh sakes nver pay that kinde of price they show up on ebay for less than $10 usually http://www.amazon.com/Complete-Needle-Tatting-Classic-Collection/dp/0866753389 Lorna: when finishing a ring I usually just put the needle thru the loop and snug and then go on.... I recently seen someones website that said to tie a knot before going on to the chain. ... what is the method most people do? AKTATTER: are you using a double carrying cord or a single carrying cord Lorna? stitchingsharon from x.x.x.22 joined the chat 115 minutes ago Lorna: single stitchingsharon: Hello everyone. I am early for a change AKTATTER: compare these methods for a ring http://www.frontiernet.net/~tammyrodgers/rhtech.html#rrb AKTATTER: welcome sharon AKTATTER: most instructions sasy to close the ring AKTATTER: i.e., slip the needle between to threads MariaH from x.x.x.144 joined the chat 113 minutes ago AKTATTER: and then to th tie AKTATTER: welcome Maria MariaH: Hi Georgia! MariaH: If it wasn't for your, most welcomed reminder, I would miss this! Lorna: ok, thanks Lilome from x.x.x.55 joined the chat 111 minutes ago Mary_ND: Hi Sharon, MariaH, & Stitchingsharon Lilome: Morning All Mary_ND: Hi lilome, AKTATTER: I'm so glad you wre online to join us AKTATTER: Lorna be sure to join Roger's group also, his tutorials are great for needle tatting http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=workingofftheball&action=display&thread=3 MariaH: me, too! AKTATTER: there you can also see that the ring is closed, needle thru the loop again then the tie Lilome: Just back from Tai chi and making coffee brb AKTATTER: welcome omar AKTATTER: hi ya Paula Mary_ND: Hi paula MariaH: Hi Mary and everyone, glad to be here.....so now I'll read and learn paulaw from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 109 minutes ago paulaw: hello Georgia and all MariaH: hi paulaw AKTATTER: any needle tatting quesitons? paulaw: hello maria AKTATTER: any one tatted anything today? AKTATTER: the regular class starts in about 10 minutes Lorna: I worked on a border but it was with shuttle Glenda: No questions from me this week, thanks Mary_ND: I haven't tatted anything today - but did promise to make my 2nd cousin a hot pink cross when we discussed tatting Katie V: I've been tatting some Mary Konior edgings, esp. rings only or chains only, and some flower bts--for the CQ squares. paulaw: I have started a doily of Lyn Morton in her book Tatting Patterns -it's called Alexandra. MariaH: tatting lots of Mary Konior's patterns, too. Katie V: Getting close to pulling the together. :) AKTATTER: I'm working on my cq block today too, added sequins beads and a spider to one section AKTATTER: now I am starting hte tatting for the long seam in the block AKTATTER: the one which has the spider web pattern Lilome: k Katie V: I love MK's little motif called Posy. Fun to tat. Mary_ND: Does anyone have a tatted spider pattern? mistyknits from x.x.x.75 joined the chat 104 minutes ago mistyknits: Hello everybody Lilome: haven't tatted this week ..been knitting AKTATTER: welcome misty Glenda: Bye everyone AKTATTER: i don't remember that one Katie must look it up Mary_ND: I also have the spider web pattern - don't want to use same spide you used Georgia - want some variation MariaH: hi misty, by glenda AKTATTER: bye glenda Lilome: bye glenda Mary_ND: bye glenda mistyknits: Hi Georgia and Maria Katie V: AK, p. 93, Tatting with Visual Patterns AKTATTER: mine was black 3 rings 4 picots cut into 8 legs two black beads for eyes and a purple bead inside the head ring AKTATTER: ok thanks Katie AKTATTER: I am having second thoughts about it MariaH: oh, the Alexandra pattern is beautiful by Lyn Morton. AKTATTER: i putin on the section which was mottled purple pink blue AKTATTER: and then tacked down a strip of irridescnet blue green purple sequins MariaH: I've been working on Mark's pattern on here-be-tatters AKTATTER: byt sewing on a purple bead every few sequins Katie V: Woooo, AK, sounds great! AKTATTER: curved aorund the string for interest Mary_ND: Sounds classy AKTATTER: then at the end of it I finished off, took a couple of single sequins and purple bead and tacked them donw Lilome: I downloaded marks pattern I'd like to give it a try AKTATTER: then a couple of just purple beads AKTATTER: then the black spider with th purple bead in the head MariaH: Georgia, it sounds so beautiful! AKTATTER: now all I can see is a spider leaving a trail purple doo doo AKTATTER: good omar we are discussing mark's pattern tonight too MariaH: a trail of purple doo doo!!!! lol stitchingsharon from x.x.x.22 joined the chat 99 minutes ago AKTATTER: lol AKTATTER: wb sharon Lilome: lol stitchingsharon: for some reason, Chatzy would not let me post.... stitchingsharon: logging out and back in seems to have helped. erin in tenn from x.x.x.100 joined the chat 98 minutes ago erin in tenn: Hellloooooo! MariaH: hello erin AKTATTER: wa hoo!!! Erin stitchingsharon: Last night I worked on Mary Konior's large cross. Mary_ND: Hi erin Katie V: Hey, Ms. Erin stitchingsharon: Hi Erin erin in tenn: Hello, all! Lilome: k AKTATTER: glad erin wasn't here for the purple doo doo part she would be laughing at me!! MariaH: I have a question about which shuttle to use on MariaH: Mark's pattern when it comes to the split rings. erin in tenn: I've been creating some purple doo doo myself. MariaH: lolol stitchingsharon: do tell AKTATTER: oh ohit's contagious! MariaH: yup AKTATTER: sure maria erin in tenn: Georgia, you almost did it again! AKTATTER: well let's start with Mark's pattern firs tonight then AKTATTER: close call ! AKTATTER: if you know a tatter who may have forgotten the time. please use your invite people button to ask themto join us now. erin in tenn: I've been working on the pink and purple square. erin in tenn: Think "Cinderella" mistyknits: still learning this chat thing and how the classes go, please point me to "Mark's Pattern" ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Visible content as of Tue May 11 02:13:52 2010 GMT (174 KB) Page 3 of 4 - Char 102472 to 153603 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ MariaH: I had tatted A-F and started on G and had a brain burp. I realized the dead spider would do better on the top half. AKTATTER: ok hang on misty Lilome: k FLTATTER: yes i want to know as well Sandyc from x.x.x.214 joined the chat 94 minutes ago AKTATTER: OK LET'S GET STARTED PLEASE SIGN IN AKTATTER: WELCOME SANDY Sandyc: Sandy Cofer Bremerton, WA ginabea: gina Butler in OKC AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Sandyc: Hi! Sorry I'm late! erin in tenn: erin holloway, tataconic@bellsouth.net,​ knoxville, tn usa mistyknits: Misty Banks, PA, USA, mistybanks@gmail.com, shuttle Katie V: Katie Verna, Creedmoor NC, katie@r-v-r.com MariaH: maria hart, chehalis, WA FLTATTER: Jeremy Earrnest ft walton beach fl Lilome: omeb@internode.on.net Omar Bentley NSW Australia stitchingsharon: Sharon Fawns Kentucky USA stitchingsharon@hughes.n​et Lorna: Lorna Burgess , Lehi, Utah, lorna.burgess08@yahoo.co​m AKTATTER: OUR ACTUAL LESSON PAGE FOR TONIGHT IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/potpourri.html Gail from x.x.x.153 joined the chat 92 minutes ago jon from x.x.x.167 joined the chat 92 minutes ago AKTATTER: BUT THIS WEEK MARK MYERS SHARED A PATTERN ONLINE Mary_ND: Mary Baumler, MaryReneeEng@gmail.com, Fargo ND USA AKTATTER: WELCOME JON AND GAIL erin in tenn: It's not the panties, either. AKTATTER: LOL MariaH: lol AKTATTER: HERE IS MARK'S DIAGRAM Gail: Gail Hayes, Alabama, llawen1@yahoo.com, shuttle AKTATTER: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatpatterns/scallop_edging2.jpg jon: Jon Yusoff, Malaysia jonyusoff @ gmail.com FLTATTER: FLTATTER@AOL.COM MariaH: i have my copy in front of me AKTATTER: HERE IS THE SCALLOPED EDGING PATTERN: AKTATTER: Scallop: RA: 8-8, CLR, RW RB: 3-3-3-3-6-6, CLR, RW *CH: 4, RW RC: 3+(to last p of RB)3-6-6-6-6, CLR, RW CH: 6, RW RD: 6+(to last p of RC)6-6-6-6-6-6-6, CLR, RW CH: 6, RW RE: 6+(to last p of RD)6-6-6-3-3, CLR, RW CH: 4, RW RF: 6+(to last p of RE)6-3-3-3-3, CLR, DO NOT RW This completes one scallop. AKTATTER: Split Ring arch: SRG: 6/8+(to p of RA)2, CLR SRH: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRI: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRJ: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRK: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRL: 6/2-8, CLR, DO NOT RW MariaH: it seems pretty self explanatory until you get to G [split ring] AKTATTER: Start of next Scallop: RM: 3-3-3+(to middle p of RF)3-6-6, CLR, RW* Repeat from * to * as many times as you need for length. AKTATTER: nOW HERE IS RIET'S VERSION OF THE PATTERN AKTATTER: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Here-Be-Tatters/photos/album/1213274435/pic/1555214383/view? prop=eupdate AKTATTER: RIET BELNDED GOLD THREAD WITH THE OTHER METALLIC TO CHANGE THE LOOK ON THE SPLIT RINGS AKTATTER: AND ANOTHER TATTER'S VERSION MariaH: beautiful AKTATTER: SORRY I FORGET HER NAME http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Here-Be-Tatters/photos/album/176892467/pic/473303345/view?prop=eupdate Lilome: wahh can't access MariaH: that was Jeff Lilome: have to join AKTATTER: YOU MIGHT HAVE TO JOIN THE GROUP TO ACCESS BUT ITIS A GOOD GROUP AKTATTER: THANKS MARIA mistyknits: I cannot access either. Tried to join, but was denied. Maybe I'm too new of a tatter? MariaH: you must join lilome! AKTATTER: PROBABLY THE MANAGER IS JUST BEHIND THE TIMES MISTY AKTATTER: NOW MARIA YOU HAD A QUESTION ON THE SPLIT RINGS? MariaH: I'm very new so it must be they are behind MariaH: yes, I started the split ring G, via the red part and turned my hand to look like the dead spider and thought it was too hard to do a picot that way. MariaH: so I'm guessing to do the blue part regular and the red part dead spider? Cynthia from x.x.x.183 joined the chat 87 minutes ago AKTATTER: OK THEN YOU CAN USE ANOTHER HAND POSITION MARIA AKTATTER: ENCAPSULATION http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/encap/encap.html AKTATTER: AND PLEASE LOOK AT JANE'S ILLUSTRATIONS MariaH: ok AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/Encapsulation.pdf Cynthia: Hi I made it! cearbhael says it won't let her in...and doesn't recognize her. Georgia should I try an invite? Lilome: Ok Joined AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PICOTS TO DO THE CHANGE OF HAND POSITION IS HELPFUL AKTATTER: PLEASE DO CYN Cynthia from x.x.x.183 sent out an invitation 85 minutes ago AKTATTER: BUT MARIA, IF YOU EXTEND YOUR HAND IN THE DEAD SPIDER POSITION AKTATTER: AND SET THE FIRST HALF STITCH AKTATTER: AND DRAW IT UP SLOWLY AND STOP AKTATTER: SET THE SECOND HALF STITHC AND PULL IT UP AKTATTER: THEN YOU CAN MAKE THE PICOT WITHOUT TOO MUCH TROUBLE MariaH: that makes sense AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU CAN'T KEEP THE SPACE THEN TRY THE SPACER LIKE A PICOT GAUGE OR EVEN BETTER Lorna: I have to leave but I will read when posted. Cearbhael from x.x.x.82 joined the chat 84 minutes ago AKTATTER: THE DOUBLE PICOT GAUGE THAT WLLY SHARED WITH US Cearbhael: dang why does it accept it if I get an invite and not when I just click the link as I have it saved? AKTATTER: WELCOME CEAR MariaH: hi cear AKTATTER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY_1QuD-P4A Cynthia: nasty tornadoes south of oklahoma city but not up here...we had a small one to the north earlier...I just am hearing 1 death and some injuries... AKTATTER: THIS IS A SPUERB IDEA FOR PICOTS DOING THE DEAD SPIDER HAND POSITION AKTATTER: STAY SAFE CYN AKTATTER: IT MUST BE THE WAY YOU HIT THE ENTER BUTTON CEAR AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON MARK'S PATTERN? shannon_in_love from x.x.x.167 joined the chat 83 minutes ago MariaH: I'll check that out! I have the picot gauges I got from you, Georgia. Cynthia: Cear did you sign in the first time? and do everything? otherwsie it may not recognize you AKTATTER: OH I HOPE THAT THEY HELP YOU MARIA THANKS Cearbhael: well I asked to have the password resent to me maybe I will get it to reset Lilome: k AKTATTER: SHANNON WELCOME MariaH: I will work on that tonight. shannon_in_love: hello AKTATTER: THYME DIDN;T SEE YOU POP UP THERE AKTATTER: THE PASSWORD IS TATTING AKTATTER: OK THEN HERE IS SOME EYE CANDY FROM JEREMY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/Granny_tatting_1_001.jpg MariaH: k Cearbhael: no the login password for my email address (the chatzy acct pass word) AKTATTER: HERE;S BEEN NEEDLE TATTING WITH LRAGER THREAEDS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/Granny_tatting_2_001.jpg FLTATTER: actually shuttle tatting not needle MariaH: Jeremy's work is very nice! FLTATTER: :) AKTATTER: OH THAT ONE WELL BE SURE TO REGISER YOUR EMAIL ADDRESS AND CLICK THE BOX TO REMEMBER YOUR PASSWORD AND NEVER SIGN OUT AKTATTER: OH SORRY JEREMY Lilome: lovely Jeremy Cearbhael: The other tells me that Cearbhael is a reserved slot...and I can't use it cause I can't prove I am her FLTATTER: no prob Cynthia: The storms are actually calming down but some are still moving east--look out Arkansas..Mississippi and east paulaw: n AKTATTER: USING A TATSY? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/Granny_tatting_3.jpg FLTATTER: thanks lil AKTATTER: THE RED AND WHITE ONE IS GREAT COLOR COMBO FLTATTER: actually i used 2 clovers and a gloria AKTATTER: OH GREAT YOU MEAN LOOK OUT AK?? DUCK AND COVER AGAIN?? FLTATTER: the big gloria MariaH: what's a gloria? FLTATTER: gloria shuttle AKTATTER: YOU MUST HAVE A COLLECTIO JEREMY FLTATTER: brand name FLTATTER: i do more then i need lol MariaH: oh, it sounds like I need to look that up! MariaH: it's such a clever way to connect the squares! FLTATTER: bought it at a antique show been my favorite ever since Cynthia: No I think it will be south of you by a good bit this time...it is going east from the southern part of the state.... Lilome: k AKTATTER: WHEW AKTATTER: OK BACK TO THE LESSON PAGE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/potpourri.html AKTATTER: AND THOSE RED HOT PANTIES!! MariaH: ahem... AKTATTER: OPPS JEREMY YOU MAY WANT TO PASS ON LOOKING AT THE LAST LINK FLTATTER: lol too late AKTATTER: SOMEONE EARLIER ASKED IF I WAS GOING TO TAT THEM MariaH: lol, it's not that bad..... Cynthia: guys remember you are gentlemen and we will remember we are ladies.... AKTATTER: GEEZ, IT WOULD TAKE 100 MOTIFS JUST FOR MY BACKSIDE! Sandyc: Do you think a picture of the RHPs will inspire my new beginning students? AKTATTER: I THINK IT WAS A CUTE IDEA MariaH: LOL AKTATTER: I BET IT WILL! nstitcher from x.x.x.215 joined the chat 76 minutes ago AKTATTER: AND THE PATTERN IS GIVEN TOO, IT IS BY AGASUNSET WHOSE REAL NAME I DONOT KNOW AKTATTER: WELCOME NINA Lilome: I think I'll pass on these AKTATTER: MORE WEARBLE ART stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: LOL OK OMAR AKTATTER: http://www.artedeldettaglio.com/eng/clothing-articles-and-accessories.php Sandyc: Love the shoes!!! AKTATTER: WHOA IS THIS TATTER GOOD nstitcher: hi Gail from x.x.x.153 joined the chat 75 minutes ago AKTATTER: BUT CLICK ON http://www.artedeldettaglio.com/eng/items-for-the-ceremony.php Barb from x.x.x.68 joined the chat 75 minutes ago AKTATTER: WB GAIL Gail: Sorry AKTATTER: HI YA BARB CelticDreamWeaver from x.x.x.244 joined the chat 75 minutes ago MariaH: I agree, that tatter is good! AKTATTER: ERIN DON'T YOU THINK THAT BUTTERFLYU LOOKS LIKE IT CAME FROM ONE OF THE PRISCILLA BOOKS? CelticDreamWeaver: Hi Everybody AKTATTER: WELCOME SHERRY erin in tenn: Sure looks like it, but wow - that made me want to throw in the shuttles. erin in tenn: Sherryberry! AKTATTER: I HAD TO SAY THAT THE BELY BUTTON CUTOUT IS A BIT TOO MUCH FOR THIS OLD LADY CelticDreamWeaver: So Erin how many quilt blocks are you doing now since not everybody has done their blocks Lilome: Oh WOW!!! I love that wedding dress AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN THE PAGE TOO stitchingsharon: it would take me 10 years to do that much tatting erin in tenn: I'm only working on one right now. MariaH: no cut outs for me, either erin in tenn: But then there are two more. Cynthia: for many of us...but a pretty navel piercing....not on my tummy! AKTATTER: CLICK ON THE WEDDING RING PILLOW FOR A CLOSE UP Lilome: I love the belly button cut out....Not for me of course but it's really beautiful:) AKTATTER: THAT IS SIMPLY BEAUTIFUL TATTING AKTATTER: AND APPLIQUES TO TULLE OR NET AND LINED Cynthia: the combination is beautiful but it would take a perfect body to wear it CelticDreamWeaver: I am working on mine CelticDreamWeaver: it will definately be a one of a kind block AKTATTER: THE BASKET AND THE DOLL AT THE BOTTOM ARE SO PRETTY TOO erin in tenn: Yay, Sherry! I'm assuming you mean your quilt square and not your belly piercing. AKTATTER: ON YOUR WEDDIGN RING PILLOW SHERRY? CelticDreamWeaver: yeah nstitcher: are the clothes actually for sale? AKTATTER: OH BLOCK GREAT! MariaH: k Barb from x.x.x.68 joined the chat 72 minutes ago CelticDreamWeaver: I can't have it said that I didn't do mine AKTATTER: SO IT SAYS Barb: oops got kicked out.. CelticDreamWeaver: got to get it done...or I will have so much guilt erin in tenn: Georgia, I think these items are a good example of how tulle can create magic. Barb: before I could even say hi. LOL erin in tenn: That's right, Sherry! AKTATTER: I THINK WE SHOULD DO A LESSON ON IT MAYBE THIS SUMMER Gail: k AKTATTER: VELCRO FOR BARB stitchingsharon: how many blocks do you have now G? MariaH: Hi Barb MariaH: lol on the velcro erin in tenn: I've been summoned by Raymond and must step away...... erin in tenn: Good night all! Lilome: yes a lesson would be great AKTATTER: 38 BONNIE GEIGER'S 2 ARRIVED TODAY CelticDreamWeaver: NIght Erin AKTATTER: GINA ARE YOU STILL HERE? CelticDreamWeaver: gee...now she is gone AKTATTER: NIGHTERS ERIN mistyknits: Sorry, I have to go. See you next Monday AKTATTER: BYE MISTY MariaH: , AKTATTER: GINA?? Lilome: I have a question about Marks Pattern MariaH: k Gail: velcro here too AKTATTER: GO AHEAD OMAR Barb: Hi everyone :) Cynthia: mine will be a bit longer--sorry the storm messed with my mind and the blocks now need some work--they got stuffed in the emergency tatting bag... Lilome: The written instructions for ring C don't match the visual Barb: Cynthia..what storm? AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT IT AKTATTER: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/tatpatterns/scallop_edging2.jpg Lilome: The visual 6+ The written say 3+ AKTATTER: RIGHT THAT IS CORRECT. EVERYONE MARK YOUR PATTERN AKTATTER: GO WITH THE DIAGRAM Cearbhael: Oh Mark aka tatman...he is on my lace list (Arachne) Lilome: Yes I was going to do that CelticDreamWeaver: Is this the one that Mark sent a response about stating that Riet found a mistake? Lilome: I'm having a tat as we chat FLTATTER: where is the written directions i only see diagrams AKTATTER: I WILL REPEAT THE WRITTEN DIRECTIONS AGAIN Cynthia: short answer--tornadoes north and south of us...some nasty damage and injuries but no deaths that we know of...but about 75 miles south of us AKTATTER: Scallop: RA: 8-8, CLR, RW RB: 3-3-3-3-6-6, CLR, RW *CH: 4, RW RC: 6+(to last p of RB)6-6-6-6-6, CLR, RW CH: 6, RW RD: 6+(to last p of RC)6-6-6-6-6-6-6, CLR, RW CH: 6, RW RE: 6+(to last p of RD)6-6-6-3-3, CLR, RW CH: 4, RW RF: 6+(to last p of RE)6-3-3-3-3, CLR, DO NOT RW This completes one scallop. AKTATTER: Split Ring arch: SRG: 6/8+(to p of RA)2, CLR SRH: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRI: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRJ: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRK: 8/2-2-2-2, CLR SRL: 6/2-8, CLR, DO NOT RW AKTATTER: Start of next Scallop: RM: 3-3-3+(to middle p of RF)3-6-6, CLR, RW* Repeat from * to * as many times as you need for length. Cearbhael: I saved those to notepad earlier LOL Barb: Oh my gosh. I'm so glad you are safe jon from x.x.x.167 left the chat 67 minutes ago AKTATTER: GINA ARE YOU HERE! MariaH: do you have to do the fold to join the split ring [G] to A? tatknot from x.x.x.191 left this message 67 minutes ago: Sorry I'm late. Eliz Davis in Arkansas. nstitcher: . Cynthia: my emergency kit--tatting bag, dog, meds, hubby's bagpipe and run for the designated tornado shelter if it gets too close...yes that's the order...lol AKTATTER: YES RIET'S NOTE i HAVE IT HERE IT AGREES WITH OMAR Lilome: k AKTATTER: "Riet Surtel-Smeulders" <Surtel-Smeulde@kpnplanet.nl> wrote: > Mark, > I have a problem, in the diagram of the edging RC is 6 + 6 - 6 - 6 - 6 - 6 > in the pattern it is > RC:3 + (to last p of RB)3 - 6 - 6 - 6 - 6 CLR RW > I think the diagram is the right one special when you look at RB > greetings > Riet the B-engel AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN AND CLICK JOIN CHAT ELIZ AND WELCOME! AKTATTER: NO MARIA MariaH: oh, good! AKTATTER: THE JOIN IS MADE WHILE THE DEAD SPIDER IS EXTENDED MariaH: good ole dead spider! AKTATTER: IF YOU DO THE CHANGE OF HAND POSITIOIN THEN IT HELPS TO FOLD TE RINGS BACK TO BACK stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: GINA???? AKTATTER: OK GINA IS NOT ANSWERING SO I WILL WAIT ON HER CROSS A FEW MORE MINUTES Gail from x.x.x.153 joined the chat 64 minutes ago Gail: oops:-( Lilome: k AKTATTER: THERE WAS ALSO A NOTE FROM BINA AKTATTER: Bina Madden" <tattingbina@gmail.com> wrote: > HI Mark... > > I think this post didn't make it over to etatting with the correction. > > I worked up two segments of the pattern so far and I am getting a box rather > than a straight edging as diagramed. I think Ring F and M needs to be joined > at the free picot, leaving 3 picots decorative on the inside opposite > the SR's. > > 1 - 2 more SR's would give it enough room to arch properly but I say that > because of my experience with Patty Duffs tatting vs mine, she tats really > tight in comparison to myself, so that might just be me needing to add more > SR's to compensate. > > For added stability one could join the picots Ring E to Ring N as well as F > and M. > > So unless my tension is really off this edging won't lay flat but would give a > nice box motif by the 4th repeat. > > Thanks for sharing the pattern:) > > Smiles... > > Bina AKTATTER: HEY SOMEONW PASS THE VELCRO AROUND! stitchingsharon: question. I'm having trouble getting a tight join (chain -chain) after doing a clover leaf. Hints? Cynthia: some of us haven't signed in (me...lol) Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK, brasthatfit@yahoo... AKTATTER: LET'S LOOK NEXT AT DIANNA STEVENS PATTERN Sandyc: Would you please post the picture of the edging again? AKTATTER: OH YES SHARON AKTATTER: AFTER YOU REVERSE WORK Cynthia: I usually do a slt if working with 2 shuttles...and that helps AKTATTER: FOLD THE LAST RING MADE IN THE CLOVERLEAF BACK OVER THE OTHER TWO RINGS AND HOLD IT TIGHT IN THE PINCH AKTATTER: PULL UP THE FIRST HS EXTRA TIGHT AKTATTER: FINSIH THE SECOND HS AND DI 1-2 DS MORE Cynthia: I like your way better AK AKTATTER: AT THAT POINT UNFOLD THE CLOVERLEAF AKTATTER: THERE SHOULD BE NO GAPSOSIS! stitchingsharon: does it matter which way you fold? AKTATTER: SLT IF OK CYN IF IT DOENST MESS UP THE COLOR AKTATTER: RIGHT TO LEFET AKTATTER: http://web.archive.org/web/20041101063404/www.domesticarts.com/Patterns/needlecollar.html MariaH: k stitchingsharon: SLR would not work -- using ball and chain... Cynthia: true I was thinking when I do with 1 color and ctm...to start Lilome: k stitchingsharon from x.x.x.22 left the chat 61 minutes ago AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN CAME TO OUR ATTENTION BECAUSE A SHUTTLE TATTER ASKED HOW TO TAT THIS NEEDLE TATTED COLLAR Gail: k stitchingsharon from x.x.x.22 joined the chat 61 minutes ago AKTATTER: SHE WAS GLAD TO LEARN THAT THERE IS NO CHANGE Mary_ND: k AKTATTER: JUST AT THE PATTERN, RING OR CHAIN, USING YOUR METHOD Cynthia: we may need glue not just velcro...news saying 12-14 tornadoes today so far... stitchingsharon: too many screens open AKTATTER: THE COLLAR IS A SIMPLE RING AND CHAIN REPEAT Cynthia: wb sharon... AKTATTER: BUT CHECK THE BOTTOM OF THE POINT AKTATTER: THE ONE PICOT IS USED FOR THREE JOINS AKTATTER: DON'T MAKE THAT PICOT VERY BIG AKTATTER: YOU WANT IT SHORT ENOUGHT THAT THE BOTTOM RING WILL SNUG UP TO THE OTHER TWO SIDE RINGS AKTATTER: SHUTTLE TATTERS NEED BEDS ON BOTH SHUTTLES OR SHUTTLE AND BALL AKTATTER: NEEDLE TATTER PUT ALL THE BEADS ON THE BALL AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE COLLAR?? Lilome: k AKTATTER: GINA ARE YOU BACK?? Gail: We did the tornado thing two weekends in a row , Cyn. No fun! MariaH: just haven't figured how to do bring up the beads, or when. AKTATTER: NEEDLE OR SHUTTLE MARIA? MariaH: shuttel AKTATTER: IF THE BEAD IS ON THE RING CelticDreamWeaver: We have a few snow flurries yesterday here in New York AKTATTER: IF IT DANGLES FROM A PICOT CelticDreamWeaver: but we at least hardly ever get tornados thank the Lord AKTATTER: THEN COUNT THE NUIMBER OF BEADS NEEDED FOR THE RING AKTATTER: SLIDE THEM UP MariaH: k AKTATTER: AND PUT THEM INOT POSTION AT THE BACK OF THE HAND BEFORE YOU WRAP THE RING AKTATTER: IF IT IS ON THE CHAIN stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: TAT UP TOT HE BEAD AKTATTER: THEN SLIDE THE BEAD INTO POSITION AND CONTINUE THE CHAIN nstitcher: what size are the beads, and any idea how many? AKTATTER: YOU ARE LUCKY SHERY, I WAS COWERIN ON MY BEAD LAST WEKK MariaH: that sounds doable. Lilome: lol AKTATTER: YOU MUST MATCH THE SIZE OF THE BEADS TO THE SIZE OF THE THREAD YOU DECIDE TO USE Lilome: I hope you mean ded Sandyc: k Cynthia: it says 120 beads in the directions size4mm but it useswool yarn... Lilome: bed stitchingsharon: the trick is to keep the bead (on ring thread) out of your way till you are ready for it AKTATTER from x.x.x.220 joined the chat 55 minutes ago Cynthia: put it to the back of your hand until you need the bead... AKTATTER: RIGHT 120 BUT IF YO UUSE FINER THREAD THEN IT MEANS MORE REPEATS AND MORE BEADS Cynthia: wb AK... AKTATTER: YEP BED! Gail: k Lilome: k AKTATTER: I POSTION THE BEADS JUST ABOVE MY LEFT PINK WHEN THE RING IS EXTENDED AKTATTER: GINA?? Barb: .. MariaH: so the beads are IN the ring? AKTATTER: RIGHT MARIA Cynthia: I tuck them between the index and middle finger if not too many...t MariaH: OH! the number of beads for that ring are in the ring! got it! MariaH: boy do I feel silly stitchingsharon: yes! Bead needs to be ready to slide up for the picot AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasics.htm Lilome: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/beads.htm Cynthia: we allhave those moments MariaH AKTATTER: those two pages will help you understand more about beaded tatting MariaH: lol, I have been trying to figure how to bring up a bead when the ring was around my fingers! duh! AKTATTER: ok let's look at ZAHRA'S WORK stitchingsharon: no question is silly -- MariaH: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/bruges/brugesjm.html AKTATTER: THIS IS HOW WE ALL LEARN AKTATTER: I LOVE STUMP THE TEACHER TOO IT MAKES ME STUDY HARDER Cynthia: but we all need to learn new tricks... Gail: k MariaH: I have taught myself to do Bruges lace and will definitely work on this one! AKTATTER: AN EARLIER LESSON COMBINED BRUGES CROCHET WITH TATTING AKTATTER: THESE SAMPLES WERE DONE BY JANE MOODY FLTATTER: and you answered my question as well thanks for reposting those AKTATTER: AND ZAHRA HAS WORKED THEM UP INTO A RUNNER Lilome: k AKTATTER: GLAD TO HEAR IT JEREMY MariaH: so nice AKTATTER: I GOT THE NAME WRONG ON THIS PART OF HTE LESSON FLTATTER: my question was about beads AKTATTER: DAGMAR PEZZUTO HAS THE CLUNY BAG Lilome: k AKTATTER: AND ZAHRA HAD THE QUESTIONS ABOUT THE CLIMBING OUT AKTATTER: SHE SENT HER WORK IN FOR CRITIQUE, A BRAVE SOLE AKTATTER: HER WORK IS GREAT BUT I DID SUGGEST MORE MORE STUDY ON THE SPLIT RING USED TO CLIMB OUT Cynthia: but we know you love us and won't slaughter our work.... AKTATTER: SEE THE LINKS AKTATTER: WELL I AM BRUTALLY FRANK, I KNOW YOU WANT TO IMPROVE AND i WILL HELP AL LI CAN OR FIND SOMEONE WHO CAN AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/roundrobin/newbiesroundrobin.html AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT THE NEWBIES ROUND ROBIN MOTIF THE FIRST PHOTO shannon_in_love: i totally did this and it is so fun! AKTATTER: IT SHOWS THE SAME FLAW AS ZAHRA'S WORK IN THE GOLD THREAD AKTATTER: THE SPLIT RING USED TO CLIMB OUT IS CLEARLY VISIBLE AKTATTER: GLAD TO HEAR IT SHANNON Lilome: k AKTATTER: AND THE SPLIT RING SHOULD LOOK JUST LIKE THE OTHERS Cynthia: but the way you tell us--something good-something that needs improvement-somethinggood FLTATTER: i saw that motif on facebook MariaH: k Gail: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/pgminidoilyexercise.html AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT CHAR'S MODEL Cynthia: and then a gentle how to improve it! stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: IT IS A LOT HARDER TO FIND THE CLIMB OUT SPOT Sandyc: k AKTATTER: THE OTHER TWO LINKS ARE PRACTICE LESSON FOR CLIMBING OUT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/av3/valeiresquare.html AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/splitring.html AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT CLIMBING OUT? shannon_in_love: yeah. so a mock picot is just a loop tied from the top of a split ring? Gail: nope AKTATTER: BASICALLY IT IS JUST A LENGTH OF THREAD LEFT FROM BOTH SHUTTLES OR FROM SHUTTLE AND BAL LTHREAD shannon_in_love: ok. thanks, AKTATTER: WHICH IS THE SAME LENGTH AS THE OTHER PICOTS ON THE RING shannon_in_love: i got that. AKTATTER: IT CAN BE TIED, ESPECIALLY IF CLIMBING INTO A RING AKTATTER: BUT IT DOES NOT HAVE TO BE TIED IS CLIMBING OUT TO A SPLIT RING Lilome: k AKTATTER: OK LOOK AT DAGMAR'S BAG AND ROSARY Barb: ... shannon_in_love: should the pattern say to tie or is it just how you personally feel about it AKTATTER: CLICK ONTHE PHOTOS FOR CLOSEUPS MariaH: k AKTATTER: IT IS EXPERIENCE WHICH WILL TEAH YO SHANNON, IF YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN MAKE THE NEXT SPLIT RING shannon_in_love: ok AKTATTER: WITHOUT DISTORTING THEMOCK PICOT THEN THERE IS NO NEED TO TIE AKTATTER: BUT IF THE CHAIN IS TIGHTENED TOO MUCH AKTATTER: IT WILL DEFINITELY DISTORT THEMOCK PICOT nstitcher: where is the bag and rosary? AKTATTER: BY DISTORT I MEAN THAT ONE LEG OF THE PICOT IS LOST AKTATTER: SO BE SURE TO TIE BEFORE THE CHAINS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/dagmarpbagdtlcluny.jpg AKTATTER: FROM THE MAIN LESSON PAGE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/potpourri.html AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT THE CLOSE UP AKTATTER: COMPARE THE SIZE OF THOSE BEADS TO THE SIZE OF THE CLUNY, AND THE WIDTH OF THE RIBBON AKTATTER: IT IS VERY TINY ACTUALLY Barb: Dagmar's bag is amazing. AKTATTER: OK WE ARE RUNNING LATE, IS NYONE GAME FOR MORE TONIGHT? MariaH: k MariaH: I'm here AKTATTER: I AGREE BARB stitchingsharon: a little more Mary_ND: ok Barb: sure AKTATTER: OK I WISH GINA WERE HERE BUT MAYBE THE BAD STORMS IN OK CITY GOT TO HER HOPE ALL IS WELL Lilome: k Gail: k Cearbhael: a little more Cynthia: a bit longer would be nice.... AKTATTER: GINA NOTICED THAT PART OF HER DIAGRAM FROM AN OLDER PATTERN WAS MISSING AKTATTER: IT HAS BEEN RESOTRED http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/ginabcross5.html AKTATTER: IT IS A BASIC RING AND CHAIN REPEAT Cynthia: If she was south of OKCity she would be without power---35,000+ without power at last report AKTATTER: JUST NOTE THAT RING 9 'S MIDDLE PICOT WILL BE USED FOR THREE JOINS ginabea: I was looking at the tv to see how close the storms are CelticDreamWeaver: that is a cute bag AKTATTER: AS ALL FOUR OF THE CENTE ARE RINGS ARE JOINED TOGETHER CelticDreamWeaver: Did I miss the instructions for it? Cynthia: Hi Gina.... AKTATTER: WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT YOU GINA ginabea: sorry AKTATTER: NO INSTRUCTIONS SHERRY EYE CANDY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/ginabcross5.html CelticDreamWeaver: oh CelticDreamWeaver: got to love "Eye Candy" AKTATTER: GINA DID YOU HAVE ANY TIPS YOU WOULD LIKE TO SHARE ABOUT THE CROSS PATTERN? ginabea: did get some hail damage : ( to my car MariaH: k CelticDreamWeaver: at least that kind of candy doesn't stick to your hips and stay there Barb: Oh no Gina, that was really close then. Was it a tornado? or just very bad weather? Cearbhael: ROFL ginabea: one tip is to print it on clear acetate that can be turned over for a new tatter ginabea: to see the back as well as the front of the tatting for help in following AKTATTER: THANK GOODNESS FOR THAT ginabea: tornadoeS Cearbhael: good tip AKTATTER: WHAT A GREAT IDEA I NEVER THOUGHT OF THAT! ginabea: quite a bit of damage slightly south of where I was driving Cynthia: cars can be repaired....4 deaths just confirmed... :( ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Visible content as of Tue May 11 02:14:08 2010 GMT (174 KB) Page 4 of 4 - Char 153604 to 178596 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ Barb: I never would have though of doing that Gina. That's a brilliant idea. ginabea: and directly to the east of where I was AKTATTER: FOR THE NEWERE TATTERS THE CHAIN AT THE BOTTOM IS A SPIRAL WHICH IS MADE BY TATTED JUST ONE HALF STITCH OVER AND OVER FOR THE LENGTH NEEDED Sandyc: great idea! CelticDreamWeaver: where do you live Gina? AKTATTER: I AM SORRY TO HEAR THA CYN ginabea: for most of the threads we use the over stitch will make a prettier spiral Barb: Oh my gosh Gina. I watch the Storm Chasers show and when they get hail, that tornado is really close. Thank God you are ok. MariaH: i have lots of clear acetate....great idea! Cynthia: we all are.... AKTATTER: SHALL WE GO ON? OR SAVE THE BUTTERFLIES FOR ANOTHER NIGHT? Cynthia: where do you get the clear acetate? MariaH: glad you are okay, cyn AKTATTER: I USE THE OVER FOR MOST JK WORK TOO Barb: Oh Cynthia, I'm sorry to hear that. So many have died in tornados already this year. ginabea: or even cheap copy paper that you can see through : ) AKTATTER: OFFICE SUPPLY LIKE THE OPAQUE PROJECTER OR TRANSPARENCY FILM DEPT. Lilome: k Barb: Go on.. CelticDreamWeaver: well...I have to get up tomorrow morning to be up and about when Kiara gets here...I like to read a bit before going to bed so I guess I better get going AKTATTER: OK MARLENE LEWIS HAS TWO MORE BUTTERFLIES TO SHARE WITH US Gail: k stitchingsharon: Another thing to add to shopping list when I go to the bitg city CelticDreamWeaver: stay safe and keep right on a tatting Cynthia: me too....oh that makes sense...duh...my brain is still on storm watch.,,, ginabea: the little tiny post it tabs are great for beginners as well to keep their place Mary_ND: Glad everyone is ok - I would love to cover the butterflies MariaH: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/mariaabfly.jpg Lilome: I really like her butterfies Cynthia: or more experienced too I love the post it tabs... AKTATTER: MARIA FROM MEXICO JUST SENT IN ONE OF THE EARLIER ONES Lilome: I'm half way through one at the moment Sandyc: k AKTATTER: FOR TONIGHT WE HAVE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflyonev1.jpg AKTATTER: and http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflythree.jpg Gail: Post its are good for any pattern you need to track rows on. Cynthia: we need some dinner...so I'll say good night and hope to see everyone next week! Thursday they predict more storms.... Cynthia: bye and Peace Barb: Be safe Cynthia AKTATTER: llet's look at donna's butterfly first http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflyonev1.jpg Gail: Keep your head down Cynthia, niter stitchingsharon: I too need to fix dinner - thanks for the information! Stay safe and keep tatting! goodnight AKTATTER: bye cyn AKTATTER: BYE SHARON Mary_ND: bye Cynthia - will pray for you about the storms stitchingsharon from x.x.x.22 left the chat 30 minutes ago MariaH: bye cyn and sharon AKTATTER: THIS BUTTERFLY IS QUITE SIMLAR TO THE PREVIOUS ONES AKTATTER: IT BEGINS WITH THE JOSEPHINE KNOTS FOR THE ANTENNAE AKTATTER: AND SPIRLA CHAINS USING JUST ONE HALF STITCH TO MAKE THEM AKTATTER: THOSE THREADS ARE BROUGHT TOGETHER THEN TO MAKE THE SPLIT RING HEAD AKTATTER: AND ONTO THE THORAX OR BODY OF THE BUTTERLFY AKTATTER: THAT RING WHCIH IS RING C IS AN OFF CENTER SPLIT RING AKTATTER: YOU CLIMB OUT INTO RING D AKTATTER: WHICH YOU THEN SURROUND WITH CHAIN E AND CONTINUE ONTO CHAIN F nstitcher: . AKTATTER: AND THAT BRINGS YO BACK TO THE THORAZ AKTATTER: TAT RING G ANDTHEN SURROUND IT WITH CHAIN H AKTATTER: NOTE THAT CHAINS J AND L AKTATTER: THROW OFF TWO FLOATING RINGS, K AND M AKTATTER: OR THEY CAN BE SCMR Lilome: k AKTATTER: AFTER CHAIN P THROW OFF RING Q THE TU-TU AKTATTER: AND REPEAT THE PROCESS IN REVERSE ON THE OTHER SIDE AKTATTER: NOW THAT WE HAVE WORKED SEVERAL OF HER BUTTERFLIES THAT METHOD IS PRETTY CLER AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? Gail: k Barb: ... MariaH: yes, the tu-tu? MariaH: sorry, I'm laughing at myself Katie V: Wish I could tat as fast as you've taken us around that butterfly, AK! AKTATTER: THE OPPOSITE END TO THE HEAD, ER... AKTATTER: BUTT AKTATTER: LOL TOO FAST KAITE?? MariaH: lolol AKTATTER: OK WE ARE LAUGHING NOW BUT TAKE A LOOK AT THE NEXT BUITTERFLY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflythree.jpg AKTATTER: MARLENE WAS OUT TO TRIP US UP THIS TIME! MariaH: It really made so much sense as I looked at the diagram while you typed how to tat it! AKTATTER: IT LOOKS SO SIMILAR DOESN'T IT? AKTATTER: I AM GLAD THAT IT HELPED MARIA Lilome: k AKTATTER: MARIA YOU KNOW THAT IF YOU CAN DRAW THE PATTERN OR TRACE THE DIAGRAM IT HELPS SO MUCH TO BEGIN TO TAT IT AKTATTER: SO WHAT IS THE STARTING POINT ON THE NRE BUTTERLFY? MariaH: I will try that next time!! AKTATTER: IT IS NOT THE ANTENNAE MariaH: it's neck? AKTATTER: IT IS NOT THE HEAD RING shannon_in_love: the tummy area Barb: Thebody AKTATTER: RIGHT-O THE TOP OF THE THORAX RING Mary_ND: Where it says start here between head and body Katie V: the thorax? AKTATTER: AH MARY YOU PEEKED! AKTATTER: OK RING 1 THE BODY AKTATTER: AND THEN ONTO TO RING 2 Barb: .. rofl.. AKTATTER: OR IS IT?? AKTATTER: AH HA MARLENE STAYED UP LATE TRYING TO TRICK US INTO DOING MORE RINGS LIKE THE OTHER BUTTERFLIES AKTATTER: BUT NO WAY Sandyc: Ring 2? --Chain? Barb: if it says ring 2 you'd think that is where we go next. AKTATTER: THIS IS CHAIN 2 AKTATTER: RIGHT SANDY AKTATTER: AND YOU ARE THROWING FLOATING RINGS 3 AND 4 AS YOU GO Sandyc: Chain with rings thrown off. AKTATTER: 3 AND 4 COULD BE SCMR TOO AKTATTER: ON TO CHAIN 5 TOR 6 AND 7 MariaH: Okay, here's where I would need it color coded. AKTATTER: CHAIN 8 LEDS US DOWN TO THE LOWER WING AKTATTER: USE MARKERS MARIA AND DRAW OVER THE PATTERN AKTATTER: 9, 10 AND 11 ARE ACTUALLY RINGS AKTATTER: ADN THE COMES CHAIN 12 AKTATTER: ADN THE COMES CHAIN 12 AKTATTER: NEXT WE DO THE OPPOSITE SIDE IN REVERSE ORDER LIKE BEFORE AKTATTER: OR DO WE?? AKTATTER: NO WAY JOSE! Lilome: k AKTATTER: TRICKY MARLENE LETS CHAIN 12 LEAD TO CHAIN 13 Cearbhael: hmmm AKTATTER: AND THE COMES THE ALLIGATOR JOIN AKTATTER: WHY IS A JOIN NEEDED AKTATTER: AH HA Gail: k AKTATTER: LOOK BACK AT RING 11 AKTATTER: I LIED AKTATTER: RING 9 AND 10 ARE REAL RINGS AKTATTER: RING 11 IS AN SCMR MariaH: k AKTATTER: HOW CAN YOU TELL? AKTATTER: BECAUSE THERE IS A LITTLE RING THROWN OFF AKTATTER: THAT IS WHY THE RED CIRCLE IS CONNECTED BY RED LINE TO SCMR 11 AKTATTER: SEE I TOLD YOU THIS WAS TRICKY AKTATTER: DOES EVERYONE KNOW THE ALLIGATOR JOIN? MariaH: no AKTATTER: ALSO CALLED THE BURDA, OR CAPTURE JOIN Mary_ND: yes Cearbhael: no...and what is a scmr? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/alligatorjoin.html AKTATTER: THE ALLIGATOR JOIN IS NOT A JOIN AT ALL shannon_in_love: self closing mock ring shannon_in_love: i believe AKTATTER: BUT IT CAPTURES THE BASE OF THE TATTED ELEMENT RIG OR CHAIN BY TAKING ONE THREAD OVER AND ONE THREAD UNDER Cearbhael: ty AKTATTER: AND FOLLOWING THAT WITH A VERY TIGHT NEXT DS AKTATTER: YES SCMR DOES MEAN SELF-CLOSING MOCK RING AKTATTER: http://www.gr8shuttles.com/index.shtml MariaH: verryy interesting.........I have learned SO much tonight! AKTATTER: THE SCMR IS SIMPLY A CHAIN THAT IS JOINED BACK TO ITSELF TO FORM A RING AKTATTER: SO HAPPY TO HEAR THAT MARIA IT MAKES IT ALL SO WORTHWHILE Lilome: t think that I have ever used an aligator join! Cearbhael: O am too Cearbhael: I Lilome: Don't think AKTATTER: AFTER THE CAPTURE JOIN OF THE TOR ARKED IN RED CIRCLE AKTATTER: THERE ARE CHAINS ALL UP THESIDE OF THE WING AKTATTER: OK OMAR YOU CAN CALL IT THE CROCODILE JOIN :) AKTATTER: NOTICE THAT CHAIN 21 HAS ANOTHER FLOATING RING Lilome: lol Gail: k AKTATTER: THOSE CHAINS BRING US BACK TO THE THORAZ, ACROSS THE NECK WE GOE AND ON TO CHAIN 29 AKTATTER: AND NOW YOU HAVE THE MIRROR IMAGE REPEAT AKTATTER: WHEW Sandyc: I would never have known to do the alligator join. AKTATTER: NOW THERE ARE SEVERAL PLAECS WHER YOU CAN USE THE SCMR INSTEAD OF A RING AKTATTER: AND YOU CAN THROW OFF RINGS ON THE RETURN PASS IF YOU WANT AKTATTER: FEEL FREE TO EXPERIMENT AKTATTER: IS IT OK NOW SANDY?? Sandyc: Makes sense now. AKTATTER: I THOUGHT MY LITTLE DRAWING WAS PRETTY CLEVER BACK INTHE DAY BUT I'M NO ARTIST LIKE MARK MYERS AKTATTER: GOOD AKTATTER: QUESTIONS??? Cearbhael: I must go...thanks been VERY informative... MariaH: no, all is good! Cearbhael: Great to meet you all MariaH: here, too! AKTATTER: NIGHT CEAR COME AGAIN Katie V: Nice work, AK! Cearbhael: Will do AKTATTER: REMEMBER THIS IS THE REGULAR CLASS AKTATTER: THE BEGINNERS MEET ONTHURSDAY MariaH: This was SO great! Cearbhael: but have to straighten out that Chatzy snaffu yet AKTATTER: BUT AL LTATTERS ARE WELCOME AT ALL CLASSES shannon_in_love: i have a question but not about the butterfly. Sandyc: Once again, a great class! Thanks. Night all. AKTATTER: SPANISH CLASS WITH WALLY ON SATURDAYS AKTATTER: GO AHEAD SHANNON AKTATTER: NIGHT SANDY shannon_in_love: is this what they mean about "woven picots"? shannon_in_love: http://web.archive.org/web/20080607092554/http://celticdreamweaver.com/bookmark.htm Mary_ND: AK - Wonderful class - lots of eye candy & great patterns. Thank you shannon_in_love: or do they mean cluny leaves AKTATTER: YES THAT IS ONE METHOD OF WOVEN PICOTS AKTATTER: NO CLUNY LEAAVE ARE LIKE THE BAG BY DAGMAR shannon_in_love: ok. cause i was confused MariaH: I have to go, too. My brain has absorbed so much wonderful information...and I'm a beginner! AKTATTER: THE CLUNY LEAF OR TALLIE MAY BE SUBSITUTED FOR A CHAIN MariaH from x.x.x.144 left the chat 6 minutes ago AKTATTER: WOVEN PICOTS ARE PICOTS JOINED ACROSS AN OPEN AREA AKTATTER: NIGHT MARIA YOU DI D GOOD AKTATTER: BYE AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?? shannon_in_love: nope Lilome: k Katie V: Excellent class, Georgia. Lots of good stuff! Now back to the CQs. ;) AKTATTER: OK KATIE! COME AGAIN SOON Katie V: You bet! AKTATTER: OH SPEAKING OF THE CQ AKTATTER: THERE ARE 4 NEW LINKS POSTED ON THE INDEX PAGE AKTATTER: DONNA MCDADE HAS SHARED SOME EMBROIDERING INFO WITH US Barb: dang pictures dont want to work on that link Gail: Nope, Thanks Georgia. Great class as always. Puppy has her legs crossed. nite all Lilome: Oh Shannon That looks like one i tatted years ago it was lovely and the picots were woven AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/buttonattachmentsampler2.jpg Barb: Thanks Georgia nstitcher: night AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/buttonattachmentsampler2.jpg AKTATTER: THOSE ARE BUTTON ATTACHMENTS AND Y STITCH AKTATTER: NGITH GAIL Barb: I'm working on my square Barb: I just haven't sewed anything down yet. shannon_in_love: i had a heart attack when i saw it AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/blanketstitch.jpg Barb: LOL AKTATTER: BLANKET STITCH VARIATIONS Barb: cool AKTATTER: THIS ONE I REALLY LIKE HERRIGBONE STITCH http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/herringbonestitch.jpg AKTATTER: YOU MEANT HE BOOKMARK WITH THE WOVEN PICOTS SHANNON? shannon_in_love: yeah AKTATTER: KEEP AT IT BARB Katie V: Pretty as the embroidery is, guess I'd rather just tat! AKTATTER: ME TOO BUT I GUESSS WE NEED ALL STYLES AKTATTER: OK THE THAT IS ALLFOR TONIGHT Katie V: Sure enough! AKTATTER: THANKS FOR HANGING IN HERE TO THE END Katie V: Good night, Georgia! Till next time. Thanks again. AKTATTER: KEEP A GOOD THOUGHT FOR ALL OUR TATTING FRIENDS IN HARM;S WAY TONIGHT AKTATTER: YOU AREMOST WELCOME Barb: Thank you Georgia : AKTATTER: THANKS FOR STOPPING BYE ALL AKTATTER: THE LOG WILL POST IN A FEW MINUTES Barb: ... Lilome: Ok Bye all I love that block with the herringbone AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT ALL AND HAPPY TATTING Mary_ND: Night all!!! AKTATTER from x.x.x.220 left the chat 93 seconds ago Barb: I'm working on it Going to work on it more tonight too. :) Katie V: Night all! Mary_ND from x.x.x.75 left the chat 81 seconds ago Barb: night everyone Barb: bye/ Barb from x.x.x.68 left the chat 58 seconds ago ginabea from x.x.x.98 left this message 49 seconds ago: thanks! Georgia! ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com