April 5, 2010 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflyfivev1.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflyfivev2.jpg the winner of the afternoon drawing was Kathi from Toledo Ohio http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasics.html NINA'S BUTTERFFLY http://beanile.com/Free_Patterns.html http://beanile.com/BNL-050.jpg »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Apr 6 01:38:43 2010 GMT - Visible content (115 KB) Page 1 of 3 - Char 1 to 51232 - Newest entries at the bottom AKTATTER from x.x.x.147 cleared the room 3 days ago maria from x.x.x.146 left this message 2 days ago: hola maria from x.x.x.146 joined the chat 2 days ago maria: hay alguien ahi claudia from x.x.x.44 joined the chat 2 days ago claudia: hola maria claudia: hoy no hay clases por semana santa.. besitos vingerhoedje from x.x.x.247 joined the chat 33 hours ago IsDihara from x.x.x.42 joined the chat 8 hours ago IsDihara: Hi to anyone who happens to be here. I am testing my login and password. Want to be prepared for class later today. IsDihara: A bientot! AKTATTER from x.x.x.113 joined the chat 7 hours ago maria alcantara from x.x.x.205 joined the chat 7 hours ago maria alcantara: see you latter...with time adjustemnts i am getting mad..... AKTATTER from x.x.x.113 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER: April 5, 2010 afternoon needle tatting session AnneB from x.x.x.254 joined the chat 7 hours ago AnneB: No one here to learn to needle tat? AKTATTER: hello Anne nope just me so far AnneB: Hi Georgia! Winkerbill from x.x.x.235 joined the chat 7 hours ago Winkerbill: hi everyone AnneB: Hi Steph! Winkerbill: Just the three of us today? AnneB: I'll be a bit to and from as I plan to make a photo of Venus and Mercury AnneB: I was not able to do it from my parent's plase, not the right view Winkerbill: oh, I forget ....it's much later where you are. AKTATTER: okkkkkkk Winkerbill: It's early afternoon here. ;-) AKTATTER: hey steph Winkerbill: Hi Georgia! AKTATTER: just finished lunch here AnneB: But now I'm back home and the view is perfect and the sky is clear! AnneB: It is 2040 here :-) Winkerbill: you have more daylight now than we do ....soon you will have sunlight day and night! Winkerbill: I think I would enjoy the 24-hour a day sunlight. Don't think I could handle the winter darkness, though AKTATTER: if you tat you would never notice the dark! AnneB: We don't have 24 hours darkness, there is a bit of twilight at midday (10-14) Winkerbill: mmmm....I notice it, just make sure I have every light on in the room I'm in AND in the adjoining room....I often tat late at night....and I just don't like "dark" AKTATTER: I got 11 more patterns today for the drawing! Winkerbill: Twilight ....that's my favorite time of day....when the sky is a dark blue and you can see the stars, but it's not completely dark yet. AKTATTER: still making the list Winkerbill: Wow! We'll have the whole book if this keeps up. I was bored this morning, almost pulled that book up to see if I could figure out another photo. Ended up tatting instead. Winkerbill: ;-) Winkerbill: Still....the whole idea of ME being able to look at a photograph and figure it out ...it still amazes me! AnneB: We never see stars at midday - too bright twilight ;-) AnneB: wow - a lot of tatting patterns - and me getting more and more projects Winkerbill: And in the summer do you get twilight in the middle of the night for a few hours, too? AnneB: No - sunshine day and night - unless it is overcast Winkerbill: Wow! Yeah, I'd LOVE that....I think! AKTATTER: as they say Steph you've come a long way baby! AnneB: I find it nice when the stars return inthe Autumn Winkerbill: I've learned a lot in your class, Georgia! Winkerbill: Hmm...I guess I WOULD miss the stars.... AnneB: I do, but not the entire summer - it is not supposed to bee stars during Summer;-) Winkerbill: I guess I'd better go make a pot of tea. Can't tat without tea.... Chocolate I've mostly learned to do without, but not tea. Winkerbill: brb... AKTATTER: what I missed in Alaska was the four season AKTATTER: we had winter and 90 day break from winter AnneB: Sometimes we have a white and a green winter :-) AnneB: brb AKTATTER: ok AKTATTER: just fyi it sounds like thunder off to the north of us Angela from x.x.x.25 joined the chat 6 hours ago Angela: Hi Georgia Angela: and everyone else. AKTATTER: hello anmgela Winkerbill: are you serious, just a 3-month break and 'winter' the rest of the year? Whew! AKTATTER: any needle tattign questions? Winkerbill: Hi Angela. Angela: Hi Steph AnneB: Still not dark enough for Mercury Angela: No needle tatting questions. AKTATTER: and there were only 35 days a year of warm weather in Anchorage, that is over 65 degrees Winkerbill: We're supposed to get "scattered" t-storms, so if I sign off suddenly, that's why. Sun's still out, though. claudia from x.x.x.225 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: i'm still listing the tatters who sent in patterns AKTATTER: welcome claudia Angela: we are haivng lots of wind today in northern michigan Winkerbill: ooh, I'd be miserable with so much cold. Makes me ache, and I get cranky when it's that cold out. Winkerbill: I was thrilled almost beyond words when I saw the first dandelion here, just knowing "warm" was ...mostly...here to stay for a while Angela: they had a warm winter in Anderson AK this year. Not as much snow as I had here in MI. claudia from x.x.x.225 joined the chat 6 hours ago claudia: im here now claudia: hi!! Winkerbill: I have friends in Canada who said they had an unusually warm winter - their grown kids had to go to Colorado to be able to ski.... Angela: Hi Claudia claudia: hi angela claudia: hi georgia.. do you receive my pattern ? Angela: I was in AK in February and my daughter was wearing flip flops outdoors! claudia: hi anne, winkerbill Winkerbill: Hi Claudia\ AnneB: Hi all! AnneB: I am keeping an eye to the skies tonight as I want a photo of Mercury Winkerbill: There were a couple days that I was cold and looking to make myself feel ....well, if not 'warmer,' at last not quite so chilly.... Winkerbill: looked up Anchorage AK and it was warmer THERE than it was here...looked up Tromso, Norway, and ANNE had warmer weather than here. AnneB: Merkury is hard to spot this far north but now it is high enough AnneB: LOL Winkerbill: FINALLY found someplace - Stockholm, Sweden....that was colder than it was whereI am. Angela: I know most of my wainter was colder than my daughters in AK. Isn't is strange sometimes how the weather goes. AnneB: Weather is a strange thing :-) Winkerbill: i'd better check on my tea....brb claudia: anyones can see bonie butterflies? it is for today class.. Angela: I worked out in my flower garden for a while today as we are suppose to have rain the rest of the week. Winkerbill: one more trip to the kitchen and I'll have my pot of tea....it's steeping now. AKTATTER: doesn't it show?? maria alcantara from x.x.x.205 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: oh I see the type I will fix it now Winkerbill: I get a "diagnose connection problems" error maria alcantara: hi tatters!!!!!! Winkerbill: hi Maria Raelara from x.x.x.184 joined the chat 6 hours ago Raelara: Hi all!! maria alcantara: no links are wrong...please G could you check them... Angela: Hi Maria Winkerbill: Hi Rae maria alcantara: calu.....hola AKTATTER: ok try now claudia: hola maria Winkerbill: Did everyone see Maria's tatting? The fish and the ornament cover are lovely. maria alcantara: hi anne,realara,wink,angela?... AKTATTER: hi y aJenni welcome Maria claudia: g, do you receive my pattern and the picture? maria alcantara: thank you!!!! maria alcantara: G thanks for my A++ AKTATTER: yes and several more this morning too I was just working on the list! AKTATTER: :) claudia: ok claudia: estan relindos maria!! claudia: hi jenni Raelara: brb Raelara: just found a stinky bottom AKTATTER: I will try to finish the list during th 10 min open chat maria alcantara: jejejeje maria alcantara: thank G now they open.... Dorcas Ann from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 6 hours ago Winkerbill: Got both butterflies now, thanks1 claudia: yes, they are ok now! thanks g Gina from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 6 hours ago claudia: que hilo usaste maria? no creo que consiga de esos por aca! Winkerbill from x.x.x.235 joined the chat 6 hours ago Winkerbill: just fell out of my chair! ;-) claudia: hi dorcas mjb from x.x.x.139 joined the chat 6 hours ago Dorcas Ann: Hi, Claudia Winkerbill: brb - getting my tea! Dorcas Ann: Are you back, MBJ? Gina: hi y'all mjb: hello everybody AnneB: Back. Spotted Mercury but not sure if the cemera caught it mjb: just arrivied claudia: im preparing the mate... its a little cold here..not so much maria alcantara: gracias clau....fui por un poco de mamey...tengo hambre....el cambio de horarios!!!! AnneB: camera claudia: hi mjb mjb: Hi Claudia claudia: que es mamey? maria alcantara: una fruta! claudia: ah. ok maria alcantara: no traduction! maria alcantara: anne...camera???? AKTATTER: still counting AnneB: I'm trying to get a photo of Venus and Mercury - they are close in the sky these days mjb: Dorcas., did you have a nice Easter? I sure did ., claudia: que hilos usaste maria en tu mariposa? AnneB: And Mercury is usually hard to spot this far north Winkerbill: somebody poke me when we start....I'm tatting and might forget to look at the computer screen.... mjb: What are we doing today? maria alcantara: i use p&p coats 2 different tones....clau maria alcantara: buterflies..... mjb: oh., that neat claudia: more bonies S butterflies mjb maria alcantara: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/20... claudia: they look beautiful maria.. i like the colours AKTATTER: ok I need advice AKTATTER: one tatter sent in a note saying she had completed the pattern for the contest but forgot to attach the file. AKTATTER: Does she get a chance in the drawing or not? Winkerbill: hehehehe....that sounds like something I would do....forget to attach the file Winkerbill: When were you planning on doing the drawing? in class? Raelara: was that me, by chance? Winkerbill: or later? Angela: why not, she attended the special tatting class claudia: if she is a regular tatter here, i think she could have a chance.. AKTATTER: yes here in class and again tonight Winkerbill: I would include her in the drawing. Elipand from x.x.x.124 joined the chat 6 hours ago maria alcantara: yess...... Elipand: hello all AnneB: send her an e-mail Raelara: never mind ... I attached mine Angela: so would I Winkerbill: After all, she did the pattern, just made an absent-minded mistake and forgot to attach it. nstitcher from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: ok i won't say who... lol... but she is a new tatter to the class and I agree we give her a chance then! AnneB: Let's all check if we did atatch our files AKTATTER: yes and that is a mistkae i have done myself so manytime not to count all my wonderful typoes AKTATTER: welcome nina AnneB: brb Angela: what was the final count of attendees to class AKTATTER: hi ya Panda nstitcher: hello nstitcher: was that me that forgot to send a file? AKTATTER: mary jane good to see you, hope you and dorcas and the gang can make the May gig for demonstrating Raelara: wish I could have attended that special session ... nstitcher: or is it something you can't mention? AKTATTER: I won't say here cause I don't want to embarass anyone AKTATTER: but I will email the tatter Elipand: hi nstitcher: sounds like soemthing i would do lol AKTATTER: we di have fun onthe treasure hunt AKTATTER: ok let's get started claudia: was a special day.. AKTATTER: please sign in Angela: Angela Miracle, aanjel51@yahoo.com Lupton, MI USA Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM maria alcantara: Maria Alcantara; famalcan@prodigy.net.mx.?..Mexico City Elipand: Elipand,TN,elipand@gmail?.com Raelara: Jenni Sherriff raelara at gmail.com San Lorenzo, CA USA claudia: claudia meza, cloelo@gmail.com, Argentina Winkerbill: Stephanie W in western North Carolina USA Gina: Gina Shillitani deastrega@yahoo.com, Tampa, FL USA Dorcas Ann: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA Dntats4ui@aol.com Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK brasthatfit@yahoo.com (made it!) nstitcher: Nina Richardson Denver co myneedlenews@gmail.com mostly shuttle maria alcantara: Hi cyn......i need help from you!!!!! claudia: raelara, there was an earthquake in california? Cynthia: what Maria? beadntat from x.x.x.173 joined the chat 6 hours ago Raelara: ummm, supposedly Raelara: I didn't feel it though AKTATTER: YES THERE WAS A LITTLE ONE IN THE SOUTHERN CA BUT MORE INTO MEXICO I THINK ON TEH COAST claudia: i say it at the news beadntat: Hi all! Kristina Plaas beadntat@yahoo.com knoxville tn usa Cynthia: my computer was down over the weekend. I just got it back about2 hours ago...and had a lunch appointment AKTATTER: I AM SO GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL HERE TODAY claudia: i saw.. AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway, and currently planet hunting Raelara: I'm pretty far up in CA Cynthia: can we all go to Anne? Sounds fun AKTATTER: I HOPE ALL OF YOU HAD A PLEASANT HOLIDAY OR AT LEAST GOOD WEATHER mjb: Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana usa AKTATTER: ANNE IS LOOKING FOR VENUS AND MERCURY?? AnneB: All you have to do is to gooutside just after sunset maria alcantara: could you delete a message from the yahoo mail? AKTATTER: HMMMMMM AnneB: Venus and Mercury are close AKTATTER: MAYBE WE SHOULD DO A STUDY ON THE CATHERINE WHEEL JOIN AND TAT UP COILS TO REPRESENT THE PLANETS AnneB: Venus is the brightes you see in the west after sunset Dorcas Ann: where do you live? AKTATTER: HMMMM WOULDN'T SATURN'S RINGS BE A HOOT TO WORK OUT? Raelara: that would be interesting claudia: uhhhhhhh,,, what a challenge g!! AKTATTER: BRIGHT ORANGE TO MERCURY SINCE IT IS SO CLOSE TO THE SUN claudia: interlaced ringsssss!!! maria alcantara: Rosemarie Weber attachement is infected...and my antivirus don“t let me open my mail AKTATTER: SILVER GRAY FOR CLOUD COVERED VENUS Raelara: that would be cool claudia! AKTATTER: BLUE GREEN BROWN AN DWHITE FOR GOOD OL EARTH AnneB: Hm a tatted solar system - have to think abour that :-) AKTATTER: MAYBE SOME JOSEPHINE RINGS FOR SCATTERED ASTEROIDS IN THE BELT AKTATTER: DEEP RED FOR ANGRY MARS claudia: (dont give more ideas to g... lol) Raelara: lol AKTATTER: LOL WELL WE CAN'T TAT JUST FLOWERS ALL THE TIME CLAUDIA Winkerbill: you could do ornament covers in varying sizes and either put them on glass ornaments or starch them with a small balloon inside (take the balloon out after they're dry).... claudia: its true g!! Raelara: I don't need any more ideas myself ... I have far too many concept sketches to work out as it is AKTATTER: OK TODAY WE... AnneB: LAter in the night you can see both Mars and Saturn AKTATTER: HMM GOOD IDEA STEPH Raelara: oooh, I like Wink's suggestion! Winkerbill: well, no, sometimes we tat fish.... Winkerbill: block tatting for Saturn's rings? AKTATTER: LOL YEST WE DO AND FLYING PIGS TOO Angela: and butterflies maria alcantara: hahahahahaha..... AnneB: And dragons Raelara: I did a spider for my quilt block! AKTATTER: RIGHT ANGELA WHICH BRINGS US TO TODAYS PATTERNS Winkerbill: and geckos claudia: an little flip flop!! maria alcantara: great ones !!! anee nstitcher: . AKTATTER: SORRY I DIDN'T CATCH THE TYPE UNTIL A LITTLE WHILE AGAO AKTATTER: http://www.georgiseitz.com/2010/mar... beadntat: I prefer flowers adn bflys to planets I'm afraid...good thing for tody's class though AKTATTER: AND http://www.georgiseitz.com/2010/mar... AKTATTER: THESE ARE THE 3RD AND 4TH BUTTERFLIES FROM THE 6 PATTERNS AKTATTER: WHICH MARTY LEWIS IS SHARING WITH US AKTATTER: BTW claudia: what does it mean btw? beadntat: very innovative AKTATTER: IF YOU KNOW A TATTER WHOSE WORK HAS NOT BEEN VIEWED IN CLASS, PLEASE SEND ME A SUGGESTON maria alcantara: btw????? Elipand: the link does not work AKTATTER: I WELCOME ALL TATTERS AND PATTERNS claudia: las dos mariaa! AKTATTER: BY THE WAY BTW claudia: ahhhhhhhhh. thanks g maria alcantara: contracciones........rar?as....jejjej AKTATTER: http://www.georgiAseitz.com/2010/ma... claudia: still learning english abreviations!! maria alcantara: ahhhhh AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... AKTATTER: GEEZ GOT A TYPO IN MY OWN NAME Raelara: lol maria alcantara: the 6 are beautifull...} Cynthia: Maria let me know which one....and I can Winkerbill: hehehe...you type like I do. AnneB: Lovely butterflies! AKTATTER: WE WILL LOOK AT BONNIES' BUTTE4RFLY #2 FIRST PLEASE Cynthia: We all have days like that Georgia.... AKTATTER: THIS IS A STUDY IN THE SELF CLOSING MOCK RING AKTATTER: AND IN FLOATING RINGS Raelara: typing is getting difficult Raelara: I have a 2 year old on my arm maria alcantara: this one.......Rosemarie Peel's Valentine Heart 2007.mht...the extention is the one Ruth_Perry from x.x.x.164 joined the chat 6 hours ago Elipand: k Ruth_Perry: Hi all! AKTATTER: LUCKY YOU I HAVE A CAT ON MY KEYBOARD Raelara: hi ruth Winkerbill: hi Ruth Cynthia: I sure will Maria AnneB: Hi Ruth! Raelara: that would not be any easier mjb: Hello Ruth Cynthia: Hi Ruth AKTATTER: WELCOME RUTH SO GLAD TO SEE YOU claudia: hi ruth!! Dorcas Ann: Hi, Ruth beadntat: lucky me!!! no cats...no kids :-D maria alcantara: hi ruth..... Angela: Hhi Ruth nstitcher: I have a dog on the chair behind me and it gets tight when she turns around! maria alcantara: thanks cyn...i realy need that..... AKTATTER: TURH WE ARE LOOKING AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... Ruth_Perry: Sorry I'm late. Just got home from the grocery store and saw it was that time. picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 6 hours ago beadntat: my doxie never touches the keyboard...too high for a fat doggie Raelara: not so lucky ... I would take the "inconvenience" of the kids any day AnneB: Hi Melanie! picotsnkeys: hello, sorry I'm late Winkerbill: hi Melanie AKTATTER: WELCOME MEL Angela: hi Melanie claudia: hi melanie,, just beggining picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com Elipand: k picotsnkeys: in Los Gatos, CA USA where it's rainy :( AKTATTER: OK THE DIAGRAM IS NUMBERED FOR US AKTATTER: AND THE ORDER OF WORK IS GIVEN ALSO beadntat: you are right Rae....I just never got the chance for kids....old maid :-J Ruth_Perry: Pretty!!! AKTATTER: RMEMBER THE LEFT SIDE IS A MIRROR IMAGE OF THE RIGHT SIDE Raelara: ah Winkerbill: ooh, rain.....much as I dislike rainy days, I'd LOVE some rain to settle some of this pollen! Raelara: move here Bead, and you can share mine beadntat: need rain here...too hot and dry....80 deg in April! yikes!!! Winkerbill: yeah, it hit 90 here....so far today..... AKTATTER: OK USING YOUR FINGER, PENCIL OR THE POINT AKTATTER: OF YOUR TATTING SHUTTLE/ NEEDLE Angela: we are suppose to have rain the rest of the week in MI AKTATTER: PLEASE TRACE THE PATH OF THE WORK maria alcantara: they look easy...laborious....gut nice! Cynthia: k AKTATTER: RING 1 CH 2 JOIN AKTATTER: CH 3 UP AND THROW OFF FLOATING RING 4 CH DOWN JOIN beadntat: you're just across the mtns from me wink AKTATTER: RING 5 CH 6 THROW OFF FLOATING RING 7 CH THEN FLOATING RING 8 THEN CONTINUE CHAIN DOWN AND JOIN AKTATTER: CH 9 THROW OFF FLOATING RING 10 CONT CH DOWN AND JOIN Cynthia: easier done than followed I think Maria AKTATTER: CHAIN 11, RING 12 CHAIN 13 AND JOIN AKTATTER: NOW AKTATTER: SOMEONE TELL ME HOW TO GET TO PASSED THIS SPOT Cynthia: Maria it doesn't show the extension in nsan so after class let me know what one you need removed...please Elipand: k Gina: ring maria alcantara: ok cyn..... Gina: R 3 P 3 AKTATTER: CHAIN 13 JOINS BACK TO PICOT ON CHAIN 11 Cynthia: sneaky.... AKTATTER: BE SURE YOU ARE LOOKING AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... AKTATTER: OK IF THERE IS A JOIN BY CHAIN 13 AT THAT SPOT beadntat: but it also need a down picot left for future join, right? maria alcantara: G... you change instruccions....we are in #1 AKTATTER: WHY IS THERE A NOTE TO ADD ON A SPACE HOLDER? A PAPERCLIP? Raelara: keep the picot open? beadntat: down or is it inward picot? terminology??? claudia: no maria .. el 2 maria alcantara: after 14 Raelara: or maybe an old-fashioned drop picot AnneB: Or a join marker to be able to join ring 16 between chain 13 and 14 AKTATTER: WELL THE PROBLEM AREA I AM EXAMINING IS ON BETTERFLY 2 beadntat: that's it...drop! thx maria AnneB: join marker = thread or paper clip maria alcantara: sorry!!!!! AKTATTER: OK THEN AFTER THAT JOIN CH UP 14 THROW OFF RING 15 CH DOWN 14 Elipand: k AKTATTER: RW TO MAKE R 16 WHICH JOINS BACK TO THE SPOT WITH THE PAPERCLIP AnneB: brb AKTATTER: AGAIN I AM NOT UNDERSTANDING WHY THE SPACE HOLDER SINCE THERE WAS A PREVIOUS JOIN ON CH 13 Raelara: because it needs a place to join onto ring 16 AKTATTER: OK THEN ON TO CH 17 WHICH COULD BE AN SCMR ALSO WITH A FLOATING RING 18 (WHICH MAY BE AN SCMR ALSO) Cynthia: on the other side of the chain/ring...the joins are on opposite sides? beadntat: you proabably could make that join without the space holder, but some tight tatters might benefit from leaving an extra space there Winkerbill: I think maybe ththat spaceholder could be a vsp, except a spaceholder would "reserve" more space to make the join? Or maybe it's to make the mirror image easier to do? mjb: what happen., I don't get a ny thing new AKTATTER: OK ON TO CHAIN 19 UP TO RING 20 AND DOWN CH 19 TOJOIN TO RING 16 AT THE SIDE AKTATTER: JOINS ARE OPPOSITE EACH OTHER YES maria alcantara: we don“t requare another clip? AKTATTER: DID YOU FREEZE UP MJB? Ruth_Perry: . claudia: we need the chain make a curve there,, Susan from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: A SHUTTLE LOCK JOI IS ADVISED THERE ON THE DIAGRAM Winkerbill: hi Susan AKTATTER: WELCOME SUSAN beadntat: yup one on each side btw ch13 & 14 mjb: I must have., I get them now Susan: sorry I am late. hi all. Susan Cuss , susancuss@yahoo.com, Ontario AKTATTER: AFTER THAT JOIN CH 21 GOES INTOTHE CENTER TO JOIN TO THE FIRST RING Winkerbill: so you'd probably make a vsp where the lock join will go on ring 16? AKTATTER: AND THE OPPOSITE SIDE THEN BEGINS IN REVERSE ORDER maria alcantara: does ch 21 has to SS AKTATTER: YES ONLY THE TINIEST OF PICOT FOR THAT LOCK JOIN SPOT beadntat: i don't think so wink...at teh lock join you don't need a p...just do teh join and keep on chaining beadntat: oh doh...yes..on the ring (I was only thinking abt the chains) AKTATTER: I DON'T SEE A NEED TO SS AT THAT SPOT UNLESS FOR COLOR OR RUNNIN OUT OF THREAD AKTATTER: THIS IS AN INTRIGUING PATTERN Elipand: k AKTATTER: I JUST LOVE A PATTERN WHICH MAKES ME WRINKLE MY BROW BEFORE I START THE FIRST DS! maria alcantara: no.....it goes in the same line.... AKTATTER: NOTE ALSO AKTATTER: THAT RINGS 5 AND 39 ARE UNATTACHED beadntat: very complex indeed...i need to do a wider printout--hard to see in portrait mode AKTATTER: JUST LOOSE AND FLOPPING IN THE SPRING BREEZE Cynthia: does the SS occur to switch the side you are working on? AKTATTER: YES I PRINTED IT OUT LANDSCAPE TO SEE BETTER TOO Cynthia: I printed it landscape it it works well beadntat: thx cyn...will do for sure! picotsnkeys: k beadntat: I hate that I need bigger print these days :-( AKTATTER: SINCE NO RW IS REQUIRED BEFORE OR AFTER CH I STILL CAN'T SEE A NEED TO SS mjb: me too., beadntat: doesn't stop me from using super skinny yarns and thread though..i just ditch teh glasses and squint LOL Cynthia: many of us do but get used to it...makes it easier to see... AKTATTER: BEAD I HAVE LEARNED TO USE A NEW BUTTON ONTHE BROWSER PAGE Cynthia: share.... maria alcantara: ok... AKTATTER: IT IS A LITLE PAGE AT TOP LEFT IN GOOGLE CHROME AND YOU CAN MAKE THE TYPE ON THE PAGE GO BIGGER OR SMALLER AKTATTER: HAVEN'T TRIED THE SMALLER YET BUT THE BIGGER WORKS FINE :) beadntat: rings 16 & 26 are RW rings, right? Winkerbill: i got reading glasses.....I'm back to using tiny threads and loving it instead of squinting and getting "eye-aches" nstitcher: . AKTATTER: YES 16 AND 26 RW BEFORE.AFTER Raelara: On firefox, just hold down the control key and push + or - repeatedly till it gets the right size Cynthia: I know Wink... Susan: . beadntat: I have bifocals...but they are best a 16 in distance...not always so good for fine lacemaking AKTATTER: THE OTHER COMMENT I HAD ABOUT THIS PATTERN AKTATTER: MEANING NO DISRESPECT TO MARTY claudia: i used picasa viewer and have the pictures on screen , I can enlarge them .. i love it!! AKTATTER: AND OFFERING NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE PRESENT AKTATTER: I THINK IT MIGHT BE IMPROVED IF THE BUTTERFLY WERE LESS MASCULINE Raelara: lol Raelara: you mean, more picots? AKTATTER: :) Susan: ha ha ha beadntat: Hmmmm lemme guess????? Haven't to use a bit of imagination to "see" a bfly at times??? AKTATTER: OR LEAVE OUT THAT PICOT ALTOGETHER Winkerbill: um....no, I see it.... nstitcher: kind of does resemble a body builder doesn't it? AKTATTER: LOL AnneB: LOL nstitcher: especially when it is so small AKTATTER: ROFLLLLLLL Susan: that #22 ring Winkerbill: snort! giggle beadntat: artistic license I guess....but i tend to be more of a realist... AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT BUTTERFLY #1 claudia: jajajja AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... Cynthia: giggle giggle giggle Raelara: lol ... Raelara: I missed that picot beadntat: like my bflys to look sorta like the real ones I see Raelara: same here bead ... AKTATTER: OK HERE TOO, IF SOME OF THESE BUTTERFLIES ARE NOT FEMALE THERE WILL BE FEWER BUTTERFLIES NEXT CROP ROFL AnneB: maskuline this one too Winkerbill: brb....need to get another cup of tea. I knew using that tiny "pretty" cup was a mistake this afternoon. AKTATTER: THIS IS BASICALLY THE SAME PATTERN AnneB: brb beadntat: color choice really affects this too Raelara: lol AKTATTER: YES IT DOES Cynthia: I like the softer colors on cersion 1 .... nstitcher: ahh this one I casn read!! thank you for the landscape print hint! AKTATTER: THIS IS A TIGHER PATTERN ABD BOLDER COLORS MAKE IT LOOK DENSER picotsnkeys: brb AKTATTER: THE PASTELS FOOL OUR EYES INTO THINKING IT IS LIGHTER MORE FRAGILE Angela: . Cynthia: true Georgia.... Raelara: Is the only difference that the top and bottom wings are joined with that large R? AKTATTER: SERIOUSLY THO, MANY THANKS TO MARTY FOR SHARING HER PATTERNS WITH US Raelara: they're pretty cool AKTATTER: YES TWO LESS CHAINS I THINK Cynthia: definitely thanks to Marty for sharing her patterns... Raelara: G, did we ever decide when I would do mine? claudia: thanks...i like her butterflies maria alcantara: .... mjb: Is Marty with us today ? Susan: yes, I've been wanting more b'flies. Thanks AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONSOH rICH IS HERE FOR THE DRAWING AKTATTER: HE HAS JUST DRAWN #48 IN THE LIST Elipand: k Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Apr 6 01:39:16 2010 GMT - Visible content (115 KB) Page 2 of 3 - Char 51233 to 102461 - Newest entries at the bottom AKTATTER: THERE WERE 77 CHANCES IN THE DRAWING FOR TRHIS AFTERNOON maria alcantara: yes, lets thank her...and for the rest of his butterflies.... AKTATTER: AND IT IS KATHI AnneB: 77 that's a lot! Susan: woohoo AKTATTER: FROM tOLEDO OHIO mjb: super Angela: Yeah claudia: congratulations to kathi!! nstitcher: congratulations! AKTATTER: CONGRATULATIONS beadntat: how awesome 77 folks! congrats Kathi!!! AKTATTER: AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO SENT IN PATTERNS Dorcas Ann: congratulatios, Kathi Winkerbill: congrats, Kathi beadntat: and thx Marty for the awesome bfly designs! AnneB: Congratulations to Kathi! AKTATTER: AND NOW I MUST LEAVE THE TORNADO WATCH T-STROM WARNING HAS JUST SOUNDED AKTATTER: THANKS FOR STOPPING BY Raelara: were there any duplicates G? AKTATTER: REPEATS TONIGHT Winkerbill: ooh, stay safe Georgia! Angela: stay safe AKTATTER from x.x.x.113 left the chat 5 hours ago Susan: take care all Raelara: stay safe ... AnneB: Take care Georgia and be safe! beadntat: bye all! claudia: bye girlsssss maria alcantara: stay safe G.. claudia: chau mariaaa Cynthia: stay safe and see you Thursday Winkerbill: I need to go, too, but fortunately we're not having t-storms....yet. Winkerbill: bye everyone Susan: bye-bye Winkerbill from x.x.x.235 left the chat 5 hours ago claudia: sigo con mis matecitos calientes Dorcas Ann: bye, everyone maria alcantara: chau clau... Gina: bye y'all AnneB: All clears skies here Angela from x.x.x.25 left the chat 5 hours ago Raelara: bye all Cynthia: Bye everyone see you this evening...no class on Thursday for the beginner class maria alcantara: cyn......????? message/rfc822 does this help???? AnneB: Bye all! See you next week! Cynthia: yes Maria it does...Peace AnneB from x.x.x.254 left the chat 5 hours ago Elipand: bye all maria alcantara: is what my antivirus show me when the massage was detected in my personal mail... maria alcantara: thank you Cyn...i hope i can check out my yahoo mail ... nstitcher: bye AKTATTER from x.x.x.73 joined the chat 101 minutes ago Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 96 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: Good evening you all AKTATTER: hello riet AKTATTER: no needle tattters here yet Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 94 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: Hi Georgia Riet de B-engel: We are the only one AKTATTER: so far AKTATTER: I will go check if anyone needs help brb AKTATTER: oh a new tatter is joining AKTATTER: I will register her and comeback stitchingsharon from x.x.x.99 joined the chat 86 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: Hi Sharon stitchingsharon: Hello Reit and Georgia. AKTATTER: hello Sharon stitchingsharon: I'm looking for a rosette pattern to put on my quilt block paulaw from x.x.x.109 joined the chat 85 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: How is the weather over there here it is really very cold paulaw: good evening Riet de B-engel: Rosette pattern try to google AKTATTER: hello paula stitchingsharon: Warm -- we've had the windows open all afternoon. thunder storm moving in though AKTATTER: had tornado watch this afternoon here has to leave class early beautiful lightning storm Riet de B-engel: You can find a lot of patterns in that way The windows ope!!!! paulaw: hello Georgia Riet de B-engel: Hi Paula paulaw: Hi Reit Riet de B-engel: Is it a Sunday to day over there stitchingsharon from x.x.x.99 left the chat 82 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: Here it is Sunday AKTATTER: it is Monday already Riet, you slept thru a day I fear Riet de B-engel: No I know it is monday, but here it is a sunday , it is the second easter day AKTATTER: Easter Monday is a holiday for you? AKTATTER: that's neat Riet de B-engel: We always have that Xmas has 2 days free easter has 2 days free and when I was a youngster you had to go to church paulaw: I need an opinion AKTATTER: oh well the more holidays the merrier AKTATTER: yes Paula? Riet de B-engel: And also I don't know the english name the day the holy ghost came it is always on a sunday but the monday after is also a sunday paulaw: I've been needle tatting but it seems like everyone shuttle tats -should I learn that instead? AKTATTER: we all laern both Paule paulaw: really? Ok AKTATTER: so sooner or later you can learn it too AKTATTER: oh the shuttle has some aspects different from the needle Riet de B-engel: Yes I can needle tat also after you can do both you can make a choice if you want AKTATTER: and needle tatting allows us to use fat fluffy textured and metallic fibers which do not work well with a shuttle AKTATTER: and beading is easy with the needle too paulaw: I did get a DVD of shuttle tatting AKTATTER: pentecost Monday we call it Riet Riet de B-engel: Who is it on the dvd AKTATTER: oh that's great was it from Palmettos? paulaw: Janette Baker Gail from x.x.x.234 joined the chat 75 minutes ago AKTATTER: did you have any needle tatting questions tonight Paula? Riet de B-engel: Hi Gail AKTATTER: oh yes that is a recent one stitchingsharon from x.x.x.99 joined the chat 75 minutes ago Gail: Evening all AKTATTER: welcome Gail AKTATTER: wb Sharon Riet de B-engel: WB Sharon stitchingsharon: I managed to boot myself out, paulaw: No -I'm recovering from Rotator Cuff surgery so everything is a little slower these days Lilome from x.x.x.209 joined the chat 74 minutes ago paulaw: Love to listen and get all info I can though. Riet de B-engel: I do that several times every class Gail: Hi,Reit, AK Lilome: Hi all AKTATTER: welcome omar Riet de B-engel: Hi Lilome Paule from x.x.x.109 joined the chat 73 minutes ago AKTATTER: that's nasty Paula AKTATTER: welcome Paule Paule: Allo evryone Suz from x.x.x.89 joined the chat 73 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: O is it Omar good evening Omar Suz: hi all! Lilome: We have finished daylight saving so I don't think I will be able to get up early enouh to get to the early class Riet de B-engel: Hi Suz Lilome: Yesiet it's Omar how are you stitchingsharon: hello everyone. While I was trying to get back into chatzy, I did find a nice rosette pattern stitchingsharon: http://tatsaway-patterns.blogspot.c... Riet de B-engel: o that is nice where did you find it birch2u from x.x.x.221 joined the chat 72 minutes ago birch2u: hi all stitchingsharon: Georgia, is there a definite top/bottom of the quilt blocks? Lilome: Thats nice Riet de B-engel: Hi ?? tattnmary from x.x.x.30 joined the chat 71 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: Hi Mary tattnmary: Hi all tattnmary: I made it!!!! Riet de B-engel: You made what AKTATTER: they will be trimmed to 10" x 10" so no top/bottom AKTATTER: welcome Mary tattnmary: here AKTATTER: hiya Cheryl AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes... tattnmary: I have been trying to join class again for some weeks Riet de B-engel: O so sit down and rest for the running tattnmary: thanx tattnmary: Georgia Gail: k stitchingsharon: I have a couple of hearts on mine-- will they be upright on the finished quilt? AKTATTER: Denise uses the rosette center for all the patterns i nher book http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews... tattnmary: thanx Riet Lilome: k Riet de B-engel: What is the name of the book Georgia stitchingsharon: I have that book -- just wasn't sure I wanted another snowflake on my block. tattnmary: AK I am almost finished with the baby blanket so I can start on my squares YEAH stitchingsharon from x.x.x.99 joined the chat 68 minutes ago Wally from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 67 minutes ago Wally: Hi everyone! Suz: . Lilome: k Riet de B-engel: Hi Wally, Iam anxious to see the new technique Lilome: Hi stitchingsharon: My hook pen, and book and thread from Lady Shuttle maker arrived today. At least one of those butterflies will be on my quilt block AKTATTER: welcome Wally AKTATTER: can't wait to see the block Sharon AKTATTER: inutes Wally: Still working on the patterns. My hands are hurting a little since yesterday so no tatting today AKTATTER: open chat 7 more minutes stitchingsharon: New technique? I did find clunies in my library of tatting books, but no time to try Gail: k Riet de B-engel: Yes Wally has a new technique AKTATTER: it was called snowflake roses Riet Gail: Spent all last week learning cluny's. What fun AKTATTER: Wally I am still trying to study the new technique Riet de B-engel: Thank you Georgia Lilome: k AKTATTER: that's ios great news mary we are looking forward to it Wally: It's like a creoss between daisy picots and working with a double bobbin or pelc shuttle tattnmary: clunys are fun Suz: . tattnmary: Daisy picots? pelc shuttle? Gail: Almost got them. Alittle more tension work and... AKTATTER: yes something new Wally is working on hush hush!! Wally: http://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.... if you want to read about it. stitchingsharon: Tatting is fun. Learning is fun. Riet de B-engel: There is a French site with awesome cluny tatting AKTATTER: lol Gail after 31 years I am still working on the tension and shape of my clunies Gail: That's what got me started. AKTATTER: mimi says I am cluny-handicapped Wally: there's a video on Ning about how to make the Schwarino Flying Ring but you need to be on Ning and the audio is in Spanish. But working on getting one in English stitchingsharon: that's what got me wanting to learn clunies --- awesome eye candy on that French site tattnmary: thanx Wally Lilome: k Gail: I end up with a pimple on the right when i start to decrece AKTATTER: Mimi has such perfect clunies and Elisa has out of this world designs in cluny Riet de B-engel: Where is that illnes in your body Georgia AKTATTER: lol mine looked more like a hernia Sherong from x.x.x.103 joined the chat 61 minutes ago Riet de B-engel: Hi Sherong Suz: . AKTATTER: on the face Riet it is when a spot occurs on the face mostly for teenagers AKTATTER: welcome Sheron Gail: I'm sorry, dows it hurt much, Gerogia? stitchingsharon: Hi Sherong Gail: does Wally: My clunies look like fuzzy leaves Lilome: k Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 60 minutes ago Sherong from x.x.x.103 joined the chat 60 minutes ago Paule: My clunies are non- existant Paule: Never tried one... Cynthia: Hi everyone stitchingsharon: Hey Cynthia - how's tre travel going? Gail: It was elisa's that made me want to try. Sherong: Hi all Lilome: mine are nonexistant as well Paule: Got discouraged just looking at them! Riet de B-engel: I can do them a little bit nice but I don't like to do them the same with the cluny in bobbin lace AKTATTER: paule this should be the year for you to try it AKTATTER: let's get started AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Sherong: Hi all Suz: suzan crites scrites@charter.net jackson MO Wally: Wally Sosa, Carolina, PR needledreams@yahoo.com stitchingsharon: Sharon Fawns Kentucky USA stitchingsharon@hughes.n?et Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotro?n.ca Gail: Gail Hayes, Maylene, AL llawen1@yahoo.com Cynthia: Getting ready and getting excited... Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC USA tattnmary: Mary Maynard tattnmary@bresnan.net Laramie, WY birch2u: Cheryl Birch Springfield Oregon USA birch2u@efn.org AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Lilome: Omar Bentley omeb@internode.on.net NSW Australia paulaw: paula wiebers, dpwiebers@frontiernet.ne?t, Denison, IA AKTATTER: april 5, 2010 evening session Riet de B-engel: Riet Surtel-Smeulders from Tilburg in the Netherlands Surtel-Smeulde@kpnplanet.nl Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com AKTATTER: recently we looked at thE WORK OF MARTY LEWIS stitchingsharon: yippee -- weather call...severe thunderstorm and tornado warnings -- if I disappear, the power has gone out AKTATTER: TONIGHT WE WILL EXAMINE ANOTHER SET OF HER PATTERNS AKTATTER: ME TOO EVERYONE Lilome: I love the first one Paule: tornado in April? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... AKTATTER: AND tattnmary: beginning of that season AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... Suz: . Lilome: I've already copied them Gail: We did that two weeks ago Sharon. Not fun. Only lost a dying dogwood though. AKTATTER: YES PAULE LAST NIGHT UNTIL ABOUT MIDNIGHT TORNADO WARNING stitchingsharon: Lovely patterns AKTATTER: AND THIS AFTERNOON I AHD TO LEAS EARLY BECASUE THE TORNADO WARNING ALARM WENT OFF Gail: yep! AKTATTER: IT WAS A BEAUTIFUL LEGHTNING STORM THO tattnmary: Challenging ? ? ? but if you follow the sequence they look bery doable stitchingsharon: we get a weather warning phone call AKTATTER: I WOULD LIKE TO START WITH THE BUTTERFLY #2 PLEASE AKTATTER: I GOT A SPECIAL MACHINE SHARON IT IS GREAT Riet de B-engel: I have printed them , but where are they now???? did someone of you hsave them Lilome: ok Paule: tornado warning alarm? tattnmary: I have that one up tattnmary: I liked it a little better Wally: they went flying to the garden Riet. :-) Suz: . AKTATTER: YES APULE THE NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE TRACKS THE TORNADOES AND SETS UP ALERTS AND ALARMS AS THE TRAVEL ACROSS THE US AKTATTER: OK BUTTERFLY #2 AKTATTER: MARTY HAS A GREAT DIAGRAM AKTATTER: WHICH IS NUMBERED Riet de B-engel: It is to cold to do that and it is in the middle of the night Lilome: yes great diagram AKTATTER: AND THE ORDER OFWORKING IS GIVEN TOO AKTATTER: PLEASE USE YOUR FINGER A PENCIL OR THE POINT OF AKTATTER: YOUR TATTING SHUTTLE/NEEDLE AMD FOLLOW THE PATH PLEASE Riet de B-engel: I found them sleeping undrneath my desk Wally: Aw... tattnmary: great! Riet AKTATTER: THE CENTER RING 1 IS FOLLOWED BY CHAIN 2 stitchingsharon: Reit do you have a kitty helper? Lilome: k Riet de B-engel: A what ? Wally: I like the overall construction without the TORs. AKTATTER: JOIN THEN CONTINUE TO CHAIN 3 AND UP TO THROW OFF FLOATING RING #4 tattnmary: & join to last p of the ring? Paule: tor? stitchingsharon: my cat steals my shuttles and hooks and pens Wally: Thrown off rings tattnmary: tor tattnmary: ? AKTATTER: PLEASE BE AWARE THAT #4 AS WELL AS SEVERAL OTHER RINGS IN THIS PATTERN tattnmary: aah AKTATTER: COULD JUST AS WELL BE SELF CLOSING MOCK RINGS Riet de B-engel: No I no longer have animals tattnmary: Thanx AK Wally: Mine "discovered" today a fantastic new toy called turquoise blue Sew Mate shuttle. I have no idea where he left it! Lilome: k AKTATTER: FROM RING 4 CONTINUE TO FINISH CHAIN 3 RW TO TAT RING 5 RW Gail: wally, just the two at the bottom would make a pretty swallowtail tattnmary: Is there a reference of do we just RW as we think needed AKTATTER: N 6 UP TO FLAOTING RING 7 CHAIN DOWN AND RW Cynthia: Wally look in your cat/dog favorite sleeping spot. Sobie (dog) takes mine to her bed and guards them AKTATTER: RING 8 RW CHAIN 9 UP TO FLOATING RING 10 CHAIN DOWN AND JOIN AGAIN Gail: The cats help me type AKTATTER: AS NEEDED OR AS EXPERIENCE TELLS YOU BUT NORMALLY NEEDED Lilome: reverse for chain 9?? tattnmary: OK AKTATTER: AT RINGS 5 AND 8 AND 13 AND 17 AKTATTER: RW BEFORE CHAIN 9 Wally: his fav spot to sleep are every corner in the house. he loves to sleep sticking his back toward the wall floor railing AKTATTER: BUT NOT AFTER CHAIN 9 NO NEED AS IT IS JUST A JOIN AKTATTER: OK CHAIN 11 UP TO TOR #12 AND CHAIN DOWN RW AKTATTER: RING 13 JOINS TO THE BIG CENTER RING Cynthia: k Lilome: k Suz: . Riet de B-engel: Before Ch 9?? AKTATTER: CHAIN 14 HANG ON A PAPERCLIP FOR A LATER JOIN Riet de B-engel: Is that not a Lj? AKTATTER: YES RIET YOU NEED TO DO A RW BEFORE RING 8 AND AFTER RING 8 AS YOU START CHAIN 9 AKTATTER: I DON'T SEE A LOCK JOIN YET Riet de B-engel: Ring * is on Ch 6 Lilome: why cant you throw the ring off Riet de B-engel: R8 Lilome: ring 8 AKTATTER: CHAIN 15 AND THROW OFF RING 16 CONTINUE CHAIN 15 DOWN RW RING 17 AKTATTER: RING 17 IS THE ONE THAT JOIN TO THE SPOT HELD OPEN BY THE PAPER CLIP Wally: I don't see the reversal of ring 8 either. AKTATTER: IT IS THE LINE OF PROGRESSION THAT NORMALLY DECIDES AKTATTER: RING 7 FOR EXAMPLE IS ABOBVE THE LINE OF THE CHAIN stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: RING 8 IS BELOW THE LINE OF THE CHAIN Gail: k AKTATTER: RING 17 AMD 18 AND MANY OTHERS YOU CAN CHANGE TO SELF CLOSING MOCK RINGS TO MAKE IT EASIER AKTATTER: NO RINGS AT ALL IF YOU PREFER tattnmary: AK are you looking at Ring 5? Wally: i think i'm confusing butterflies... which one are we talking about? Riet de B-engel: Chain 6 has two R of chain an than Ch 6 goes over in Ch 9 by a lock join AKTATTER: JUST CHAINS JOINING BACK ONTO THEMSELVES TO MAKE THE SCMR AKTATTER: #2 Cynthia: k tattnmary: I get much less confused with SCMR AKTATTER: OOOPS AKTATTER: I AM SORRY Lilome: confused here AKTATTER: YOU ARE ALL RIGHT AND I AM WRONG Lilome: isn't 15 a ring paulaw: Are there any dp between ring 7&8? AKTATTER: I AMLOOKING AT #1 Lilome: lol AKTATTER: IT IS THE PASTEL BUTTEFLY Lilome: naughty Suz: whew1 Wally: Ah.... ;-) AKTATTER: SHALL I GO SIT I NTHE CORNER? tattnmary: If you look closely at the tatting I would say no tattnmary: ds between 7&8 Wally: No candies for the teacher! Riet de B-engel: Ok Now I know I am not the only one Who sais 2 and does 1 Lilome: or apples tattnmary: NO AK just pay more aattinetion : ) Gail: She needs CHOCOLATE Riet de B-engel: No Georgia you are forgiven paulaw: thanks tattnmary AKTATTER: OH FOR A CHOCOLATE BAR BUT AT LEAST I GOT AN EASTER BUNNY OF SOLID WHITE CHOCOLATE!!! Suz: take the chocolate and run with it! tattnmary: you got an Easter bunny!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!111 Lucky Riet de B-engel: I have a painted egg it is painted by Nora Lilome: They say it's best to eat the chocolate all at once AKTATTER: LOL OK LOOK AT THE PASTEL BUTTERFLY Lilome: better for you AKTATTER: IS THERE A PHOTO RIET? Wally: I have been eating lil easter eggs since thursday. Ugh! no more for me. lol AKTATTER: NOTE THAT RINGS 5 AND 41 Riet de B-engel: Yes but don't have it AKTATTER: ARE NOT JOINED ANYWHERE Lilome: I've still got half one left AKTATTER: THAT WOULD DO IT WALLT AKTATTER: THOSE TWO RINGS JUST FLOP IN THE BREEZE Lilome: yes AKTATTER: And speaking of things flopping in the breeze tattnmary: 5 & 38? AKTATTER: this afternoon i made a comment about the butterfly AKTATTER: 5 and 41 onthe pastel butterfly Wally: caps G AKTATTER: no disrepect to mARTY LEWIS AKTATTER: AND NO OFFENSE TO ANYONE HERE Cynthia: or the gentlemen in the group! tattnmary: on #2 it is 5 & 38 AKTATTER: BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE BUTTERFLY WOULD LOOK BETTER IF IT LOOKED LESS MASCULINE Riet de B-engel: Masculine? Lilome: less masculine?? Cynthia: look close\ Wally: *snickering* AKTATTER: YES ON THE BUTTERFLY IN PRIMARY COLORS IT IS 5 AND 39 Gail: oh, my, blushing here tattnmary: it is so small yes 39 AKTATTER: LOOK AT CHAIN 23 AT THE BOTTOM OF BFLY #1 Cynthia: giggling and AKTATTER: THERE IS A PICOT THERE THAT REALLY ISN'TY NECESSARY AKTATTER: LESS LIKE A MAN RTIET Paule: I'm a little confused.. are we looking at #1 or #2? tattnmary: which picot AK Riet de B-engel: it is a kind of a tail AKTATTER: SO I WOULS NEUTER BOTH OF THE BUTTERFLIES LOL AKTATTER: #1 stitchingsharon: are butterflies like birds? The male being more colorful? tattnmary: Finally got it AK! !: !? !? !? : ) AKTATTER: BOTH THE CHAIN 23 IS ON BUTTERFLY #1 AND CHAIN 22 IS ON BUTTERF;Y #2 Wally: I will make them Miss Butterflies. ;-) Gail: definatly AKTATTER: ROFL Suz: . AKTATTER: IT IS JUST ONCE I SAW THAT PICOT paulaw: agree here Lilome: I will probably reduce the amount of outer rings AKTATTER: IT IS THE ONLY THING I SAW LOL IT JUST HAS TO GO birch2u: I got it no picot no dangly thing in the wind Gail: Just not so obveous AKTATTER: OR MAYBE ADD MOR RINGS Paule: I think butter fly #1 should have more of a "waist"... AKTATTER: RIGHT CHERYL Lilome: and i'll be careful about the long picot Wally: Unless you place beads in all the decorative picots then a bead there would look nice tattnmary: so glad I made it to class tonight! AKTATTER: OK WHO HAS A QUESTION ON HOW TH BUTTERFLY IS TATTED? AKTATTER: BEADS WOULD BE BEAUTIFUL Paule: Yes! Isn't a riot?! Cynthia: didn't know tatters talked about the "birds and bees..." tattnmary: I thought about beads, but that would just draw more attention AKTATTER: AND IF YOU PUT THE BEADS ON THE CORE THREAD IT WOULD CERTAINLY CREATE A N OUTLINE Lilome: lol tattnmary: I think I will do it just to know that i can Riet de B-engel: I don't understand "birds and bees" Suz: . stitchingsharon: broken into small bits, its not so complicated Paule: Well Riet, there boys birds and girls birds tattnmary: simple introduction to SEX ed Cynthia: a euphanisim about sex and body parts Paule: ...and sometimes they get togerther... Riet de B-engel: oooo I don't know anything about that birch2u: facts of life riet before a girl gets married and what she can expect froma man Paule: ... and have some fun... AKTATTER: BIRDS AND BEES = CODE WORD FOR SEX Cynthia: I'll go blush in the corner,,,, Lilome: roflol boy birds and girl birds Wally: I'll join you Cyn! Gail: k tattnmary: are we looking at #1 or #2? AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/be... Lilome: not me Riet de B-engel: We don't use that we say small flowers and small bees Lilome: I'm sitting here laughing AKTATTER: IT DOESN'TMATTER ANYMORE MARY WE ARE WAY OFF TOPIC birch2u: ll me too AKTATTER: THAT BUTTERFLY AT THE BOTTOM WAS DONE BY MAUS tattnmary: that's what I thought scroll down for what? AKTATTER: ALL THE BEADS ARE ON THE CORE THREAD Paule: me too! Suz: . AKTATTER: IF YOU ARRANGED THE BEADS IN THE RIGHT ORDER Wally: Isn't it a butterfly from Nina? AKTATTER: YOU COULD GIVE ALL KINDS OF COLOR TO MARTY'S BUTTERFLY Lilome: hmmm tattnmary: can we get that pattern? AKTATTER: MAUS TATTED IT FROM NINA LIBIN'S [PATTERN RIGHT Paule: yes! very interesting idea! AKTATTER: IT IS ONLINE Paule: But would have to be planned carefully... Lilome: yes Wally: the pattern is her http://beanile.com/Free_Patterns.ht... AKTATTER: REMEMBER HOW WE DO IN BEADED KNITTING ADD THE BEADS TO THE THREAD IN REVERSE ORDE tattnmary: yeah beads have to be threaded in reverse order for use AKTATTER: IN JUST THE RIGHT PATTERN AND IT CREATES DESIGNS Wally: can we say that a bead= 1ds? Lilome: I'm going to use different coloured thread Wally: i mean, if the bead is on the core thread AKTATTER: I THINK THAT IS RIGHT WALLY AKTATTER: AND IMAGINE WHAT YOU CAN DO IF YOU ARE BLOCK TATTING AKTATTER: OR TRYING FILET TATTING TO CREATE A PICTURE AKTATTER: YES Lilome: k Gail: k Suz: k Cynthia: some of Nina's patterns look almost like they were block tatted but with beads instead of ds Gail: Idea overload Margaret from x.x.x.250 joined the chat 27 minutes ago Margaret: hello to all Riet de B-engel: Idea overload?? Wally: Cynthia, one of Nina's booklets is exactly that theme. Making blocks with beads AKTATTER: HERE IS ANOTHER VERSION OF NINA'S BUTTERFLY http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes... Paule: suppose you were to put beads in ring #1 of either butterfly... AKTATTER: WELCOME MARGARET Margaret: sorry that I am so late -- was visiting my mother for Easter 110 miles away Paule: how would you go about it? Margaret: thanks Georgia Wally: I just love so much Beanile tatting AKTATTER: BEADS ON A VARIEGATED THREAD Margaret: I am beginning to likek beads too Gail: Riet, too many ways to do things with the pattern stitchingsharon: welcome Margaret Paule: 1 ds, 1 bead? Riet de B-engel: Thanks Gail AKTATTER: GLAD YOU MADE IT MARGAET Margaret: that butterfly looks like it has a bead on every picot every stitch AKTATTER: OK RICH'S IS HERE IT IS TIME TO HAVE THE DRAWING Wally: oh, goody, goody! AKTATTER: FOR THE AFTERNOON DRAWING COUNTING AL LTHE PATTERNS EMAILED IN AND THE WINNERS OF CHANCES Paule: but I thought we were putting the beads on the core thread? Riet de B-engel: Which drawing Georgia' stitchingsharon: drawing? for what? AKTATTER: IN THE TREASURE HUNT ON INTERNATIONAL TATTING DAY APRIL 1 Suz: ! Margaret: what did you have to do to enter? Lilome: k AKTATTER: 100 YDS OF THREAD 10 YDS OF 10 COLORS AKTATTER: THE AFTERNOON DRAWING HAD 71 CHANCES IN IT Wally: for beanile you need one bead on the hand thread and one on the core thread Wally: wow! stitchingsharon: nice prize, but I had to work on 4/1 AKTATTER: COUNTING THE EMAILED PATTERNS AGAIN AND THE NIGHT PARTICIPANTS THERE ARE 41 CHANCES AKTATTER: AND THE WINNER OF THE AFTERNOON DRAWING WAS KATHI FOM TOLEDO OHIO Gail: Me too sharon AKTATTER: AND TONIGHT THE WINNER IS..... Riet de B-engel: r Wally: *drum roll* Lilome: k Margaret: I was busy -- it was Maundy Thursday and we had a big service at church and I am in the choir AKTATTER: #26 MISTY BANKS tattnmary: >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> AKTATTER: MISTY IS FROM PITTSBURGH PA Cynthia: Congrats to both winners!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?! Lilome: good for her!!! tattnmary: I slept it away after upchucking wed pm Wally: congrats! Paule: Yeah! Riet de B-engel: congratulations tattnmary: but congrats to both winners Margaret: hi, Cynthia, any time afterwards? Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Apr 6 01:40:08 2010 GMT - Visible content (115 KB) Page 3 of 3 - Char 102462 to 117938 - Newest entries at the bottom paulaw: Fun fun fun! Margaret: hope you feel better, tattnmary stitchingsharon: lucky tatters! tattnmary: FINALLY Lilome: yes good on both winners tattnmary: yes Cynthia: not for a bit...Jan needs my computer...our internet is only working on mine Margaret: Georgia, I have a couple of basic questions AKTATTER: WRITE A PATTERN FROM THE NEWLY POSTED ANTIQUE BOOKLET MARGARET Cynthia: tattnmary get well quick AKTATTER: WELL I HAD FUN WITH THE TREASURE HUNT I HOPE YOU ALLDID TOO AKTATTER: SHOULD WE DO IT AGAIN SOMETIME? AKTATTER: RE MARGARET GO AHEAD Wally: yes! Gail: k paulaw: yes tattnmary: Cynthia, I was back with the grandson today birch2u: yes Margaret: yes I would like to try it, whatever it was -- treasure is always lovely AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PATTERNS TONIGHT? Riet de B-engel: I think so yes Gail: yes Cynthia: I did and YES maybe my computer will cooperate! Suz: will we compile everyones? tattnmary: soI guess I am as good as it gets : ) Wally: it's always fun! I shuld try to do one with the Spanish class AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO MARTY FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US THERE ARE 2 MORE BUTTERFLIES TO STUDY ALSO Margaret: Georgia, my questions are general one is needle Lilome: k AKTATTER: OK WE WILL DO IT AGAIN Cynthia: anyone who can keep up with a little one definitely is better.... tattnmary: AK link for the new posted antique booklet? AKTATTER: I WILL START ADDING THE WRITTEN PATERNS TO THE ORIGINAL PAGES AND REPOST THEM SUZ tattnmary: he is 14 months now Wally: How the patterns of the book will be presented? Can I post mines on my web site? Suz: thanks...it was fun! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/... AKTATTER: die Schiffchenarbeit Cynthia: Jan needs my computer for a bit. Georgia I'll resend mine...My computer internet quit on me... Lilome: How many are left to be written up Georgia?? AKTATTER: these patterns may be freely copied shared and posted AKTATTER: I got in 18 this morning so I need to count Lilome: ok Suz: cynthia you did get my pattern I sent to you? Margaret: Georgia, in the shuttle pattern it states R 2 (-2) 7 times clr. make a mock picot by using a lock stitch. When I tried mine with needle, I put a double knot AKTATTER: i will send A MESSAGE AROUND IF WE NEED MORE DONE Lilome: ok Riet de B-engel: r tattnmary: include me? please AKTATTER: IT WOULD BE LIKE A DS MARGARET BUT THE FIRST HALF IS WRAPPED ONTO THE NEEDLE Margaret: do you need my addy, Georgia? Margaret: but I have two threads AKTATTER: AND THEN THE SECOND HAVE WOULD BE A TIE SO THE DS COULD NOT MOVE AKTATTER: OR AKTATTER: YOU CAN SKIP THE DS WRAPPING ALTOGETHER AND JUST MAKE A SHOELACE TIE Riet de B-engel: Georgia thanks a lot for the class I go to my bed it is half past three in the night AKTATTER: SURE MARY Margaret: thanks for coming Riet Cynthia: Suz when did you send it? My computer has been iffy for awhile stitchingsharon: Goodnight all. Thanks for another great class Lilome: good night Riet Margaret: what province ar eyou in, in the Netherlands? stitchingsharon from x.x.x.99 left the chat 16 minutes ago AKTATTER: YES EASIEST FOR YOU IS TO JUST TIE THE TWO THREADS TOGETHER LIKE A SHOELACE TIE Paule: Good night Riet AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT SHARN birch2u: nite riet tattnmary: good to have you here reit Suz: opps my mistake...i send tattnmary: spelled it wrong riet Lilome: I think i'd better go too AKTATTER: OK LSAT CALL FOR QUESTONS Suz: sent it to AK Margaret: to get the same side, do I need to tie the knot twice, there is no reverse in this work AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT? Riet de B-engel: In the very good province Noord Brabant AKTATTER: BEGINNERS CLASS THURSDAY Lilome: ks for a gtreat class and the laughs Cynthia: No problem Suz AKTATTER: SPANISH TATTING CLASS SATURDAY AKTATTER: YOU BET OMAR Cynthia: NO BEGINNER CLASS THIS WEEK Margaret: Georgia, will you stay for a few minutes, I have some general questions AKTATTER: NIGHTERS RIET Riet de B-engel: night all Lilome: bye all Cynthia: We will have a week off in the middle of the sessions as none of the teachers are available... AKTATTER: OH RIGHT CYN IS HAVING LUNCH AT MY HOUSE THIS THURSDAY! paulaw: I'm needle so I will stay and listen too Wally: night night ya'll! AKTATTER: NO EGGS :) AKTATTER: BYE ALL Cynthia: yup and thank you for remembering Suz: ak did you get the pattern I sent to you aol account? Margaret: when one is tatting with metallic thread, and making upteem lock joins, how do you keep the metallic part from bunching up into knots and breaking AKTATTER: GCRITES? Suz: yes Sherong: Nite all AKTATTER: USE A NON METALLIC THREAD AS THE CARRYING CORD MARGARET IF POSSIBLE tattnmary: Margaret, working with metallic is very challenging Cynthia: I need to run...sorry Jan needs my internet...I'll be back in awhile... AKTATTER: HMM ABOUT THAT Gail: nite Riet AKTATTER: THERE WAS NO ATTACHMENT :( AKTATTER: BUT THE CLASS VOTED ON IT THIS AFTERNOON Suz: i haven't been able to send out mail on my account Margaret: how do you make the carrying cord different from the cord that is making the stitches on needle tattnmary: I have found that I have to be sure that I don't pull the metallic any extra at all. AKTATTER: AND YOU RECEIVED A CHANCE I NTHE DRAWING ANYWAY AKTATTER: YOU USE A SEPARATE CUT THREAD ON THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE Margaret: I wish my scanner was working the blossom came out beautifully Suz: the attachments I sent before worked on that account.....any suggestions to get you the translation? AKTATTER: AND IT MAKES A LOT OF DIFFERENCE WHAT TYPE OF METALLIC YOU USE tattnmary: yes you are right AK AKTATTER: METALLIC WRAPPED ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE THREAD BUNCHES UP A LOT Paule: what is the best type? AKTATTER: METALLIC MADE AS PART OF THE THREAD IS BETTER AKTATTER: TYR THE AKTATTER@GMAIL.COM Margaret: I am using the ALtin Basak 50 from Rita Cochrane and it is metallic wrapped on the outside AKTATTER: I HAVE HAD GOOD LUCK WITH KREINIK AND THAT NEWER ONE HMM WHAT WAS THE NAME OF IT? tattnmary: Kreinik threads are so good Margaret: Georgia, is your addy all capitals? tattnmary: Ak I am saying good night. did so enjoy class tonight. : ) Margaret: evem the gmail part? AKTATTER: IN MY EMAIL IT DOESN'T MATTER all caps or not AKTATTER: night mary so glad you finally made it stay well AKTATTER: ok last call?? Margaret: I am tatting another one of Gina Brummett's "Beginner's Beaded Brooch" AKTATTER: thanks to everyone for helping Suz: Will give it a try AK and will try sending it from school as well. something needs to work! Margaret: what about the needle question AKTATTER: o hope you make photos for us margaret AKTATTER: did you have another questions margaret? Suz: nite everyone! til next week! Margaret: I have a wonderful tube, handmade from cherry wood for my needles, but how do I tell which size is which easily AKTATTER: nighters suz Margaret: I have to lay them all out and compare them every time I try to select one AKTATTER: which size the needles are? Margaret: the wool needles are easy paulaw: Margaret-I purchased a Tatting Needle and Picot Gauge from Handy Hands Margaret: I have only one set of wool needles AKTATTER: oh i do that also, you must try to match the size of the thread as closely as possible and so I putt hem al lout and one by one compare them to the thread paulaw: It has holes that you slide you needles through with the marked size on each hole. AKTATTER: I don't know of any guide for tatting needles AKTATTER: ok i will go and get the log ready and post it in a few minutes AKTATTER: thanks everyone fore stopping by Margaret: Georgia, I have some of your mahongany picot gauges but I have lost the two smallest (and most used ) sizes AKTATTER: good night and stay safe Paule: good night AK we had fun! AKTATTER: happy tatting AKTATTER: they come in a handy tin container now Margaret to keep them from being lost AKTATTER: thanks paule AKTATTER from x.x.x.171 left the chat 4 minutes ago Margaret: how much for another set? Margaret: hi, Paule, you are in Quebec, right? Margaret from x.x.x.250 left the chat 3 minutes ago Gail: Thanks, AK, good one Gail: nite all Created at Chatzy.com