ÿþMarch 22, 2010 links used in the class today http://www.janeeborall.freeservers.com/butterfly2009.pdf http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/PearlTatting.pdf lock stitch chain http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewis3.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbkmksqbuttons.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbkmksqbuttonsdtl.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewisbflytwo.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewislockchainornamentcover1.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/marlenelewislockchainornamentcover2.jpg http://marty-tatsall.blogspot.com/2008/09/design-challenge-2-revisited.html photo http://marty-tatsall.blogspot.com/2008/12/gift-ornaments-five-and-six.html " http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/splitring.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/pgminidoilyexercise.html http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SplitRings.pdf http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/Encapsulation.pdf www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/encap/encap.html - http://www.paradisetreasures.com/rietpicotchallenge.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/setstitch.html http://www.gr8shuttles.com/scmrinstr.html http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/lock-stitch-chain/ http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/downward_picot/downward_picot.html http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/DownPicot.pdf http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?pid=31048840&id=1481564331 JENNI http://www.hmh.org/ed_butterfly1.shtml http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi?action=display&board=shuttletoneedle&thread=327&page=1#1039 http://www.frontiernet.net/~tammyrodgers/rhtech.html#rmr #3 = scmr http://www.paradisetreasures.com/rietpicotchallenge.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/maltesesnowflake.html www.georgiaseitz.com/morales/riego.pdf http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/thrownring.html »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Mar 23 01:42:47 2010 GMT - Visible content (139 KB) Page 1 of 3 - Char 1 to 51255 - Newest entries at the bottom AKTATTER from x.x.x.138 cleared the room 3 days ago gardentat from x.x.x.243 joined the chat 30 hours ago JaneEb from x.x.x.204 joined the chat 10 hours ago becky from x.x.x.107 joined the chat 7 hours ago Kathi from x.x.x.43 joined the chat 7 hours ago becky: hi Rosemarie from x.x.x.60 joined the chat 7 hours ago Rosemarie: Hi All becky: hi Rosemarie: We are having a typical rainny spring day - how about you? becky: off and on its suppost to rain the rest of the week Rosemarie: Ours should clear up after tomorrow. I'll be out there inspecting the garden and pulling some weeds. Gretta from x.x.x.147 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER: hello all becky: we just pulled parsnips fri still to wet to do anything else Gretta: Hi becky: hi Rosemarie: Hi Georgia AKTATTER: March 22, 2010 AKTATTER: are there any needle tatting questions? Rosemarie: I did manage to transplant a sedum in between the bad weather. becky: are there patterns out there becky: sedum?? AKTATTER: what kind of patterns Becky becky: needle tatting doilies Rosemarie: I think it's called stonecrop Automn Joy - flowering perrenial Rosemarie: That shoudl read Stonecrop Autumn Joy Rosemarie: perennial was spelled wrong, too! AKTATTER: Becky are you a new tatter? just learning needle tatting or experienced? AKTATTER: watch out Rosemarie, my awful typoes seem to be contagious Elipand from x.x.x.208 joined the chat 7 hours ago becky: just learning Elipand: Hello all Gretta: Becky, as you learn you will be happy to know that any pattern written for shuttle can be done by needle. becky: ok AKTATTER: well Becky you will be pleased to know that all tatting patterns are also needle tatting patterns Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 7 hours ago Cynthia: Hi severyone... AKTATTER: you may need to interpret some shuttle tatting directions for the needle AKTATTER: but you tat the pattern just as it directs but using your method of tatting AKTATTER: you should join Rger AKTATTER: Roger's needle tatting group also becky: when do they get together Cynthia: brb getting todays patterns.... AKTATTER: go here to register http://needletatting.proboards.com/... AKTATTER: then go here http://needletatting.proboards.com/... AKTATTER: for Roger's explanation of shuttle vs needle tatting terms AKTATTER: Roger's group doe not have live meetings, for that stick with us but for tutorials and other info visit Roger's site often AKTATTER: becky anytime you encounter a direction that is just for a shuttle let us know and we will help you figure out the needle tatting method AKTATTER: Tammy Rogers also has some great tutorials for the needle tatter http://www.frontiernet.net/~tammyro... AKTATTER: bookmark her page for certain! becky: thanks AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions?? AKTATTER: does anyone know how to do the drop picot on the needle? Rosemarie: two first half of ds leave picot space and two second half of ds BahmaTerri from x.x.x.39 joined the chat 6 hours ago Elipand: k AKTATTER: great Rose, of course the number of half stitches done in repetition might change BahmaTerri: Hi everyone picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: hi everyone AKTATTER: now when the ring/chain with the drop picot slides off the needle and is anchored off AKTATTER: which way does the drop picot face? AKTATTER: hi there! Rosemarie: towards the inside curve of the chain/ring becky: thats neat AKTATTER: that is right on! BahmaTerri: thx. that's good to know. AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions? AnneB from x.x.x.57 joined the chat 6 hours ago Cynthia: hmmmm that may be my problem! glad to kno0w it was just backwards and I know what I did wrong....duh moment maria alcantara from x.x.x.235 joined the chat 6 hours ago maria alcantara: hi girla...iam on time? AnneB: Hi all! I'll be around in a moment, just have to finish something first Elipand: k Cynthia: hiAnne and Maria...I'm on hubbys computer and the keyboard feels funny! sup-0posed to be the same but it does more typos.... Claudia from x.x.x.180 joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: same here Cynthia: Hi claudia Claudia: hi all girls!! Claudia: hi cyn! Claudia: hola mariaa maria alcantara: Hola clau AKTATTER: Cynthia?? duh? oh my lol Claudia: hi g! AKTATTER: Maria how nice to see you and maryjane too and anne why how did all you slip into class so quietly? AKTATTER: hey Claudia mjb from x.x.x.188 joined the chat 6 hours ago Cynthia: yes I did the drop picot backwards---second half first then first half and couldn't figure out how to get it to go in...duh...some days.... mjb: hello everybody AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions? AKTATTER: ah ha! but Cynthia AKTATTER: it is ok to reverse the half stitch order AKTATTER: if you tat 1hs then 2 hs the drop drops to the "front" of the work Gretta: So it is correct that the 2nd half is first then picot space and then 1st half. That's the way I got the picot to drop Gina from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 6 hours ago Gina: hi y'all Claudia: hi mjb, greta, gina becky: hi AKTATTER: if you tat 1hs then 1 hs the drop picot drops to the "back" of the work beadntat from x.x.x.94 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: both are correct AKTATTER: but if the pattern says do it 1 hs then 2 hs stick with that there might be a particular reason Cynthia: just different sorry if I confused things... AKTATTER: otherwise please yourself see which way looks best to you AKTATTER: welcome gina AKTATTER: and Kristina Elipand: k Gina: I have my lesson work printed out this time picotsnkeys: k beadntat: Hi Gerogia and everyone Gina: :) BahmaTerri: .. Rosemarie: k becky: where is the lesson for tonight Kathi from x.x.x.43 joined the chat 6 hours ago Kathi: Hi Everyone! AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions? hi Kathi Gina: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/20... Raelara from x.x.x.192 joined the chat 6 hours ago Claudia: no mjb: k maria alcantara: no! thanks G... Winkerbill from x.x.x.218 joined the chat 6 hours ago Winkerbill: hi everyone! gardentat from x.x.x.243 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: ok 7 more minutes open chat Claudia: me encanto tu trabajo maria!! AKTATTER: all the lessons are posted at http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/20... AKTATTER: scroll down to the date March 22, there are three patterns to print AKTATTER: or to bring onscreen today Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago Jenny: Hi Everybody Gina: brb maria alcantara: cual???? Claudia: el de sherry pence y el otro colorido AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 sent out an invitation 6 hours ago AKTATTER: heu Jenny Rosemarie: Georgia, what should I do with my butterfly for the Butterfly Project? AKTATTER: I'm going to check if anyone needs help to get to class Elipand: k AKTATTER: I'll get the address Rose AKTATTER: http://www.hmh.org/ed_butterfly1.sh... mjb: what is the butterfly project Gina: back Winkerbill: hi Jenny maria alcantara: quedaron obscuros debi poner un color mas vivo, como amarillo..... Kathi: . AnneB: I'm back .-) Gina: wb Rosemarie: When I send it, should I designate it as from The Online Tatting Class? Cynthia: butterfly project is thru holocaust museum Houston... Cynthia: they are trying to gather 1.5 million representations of butterflys--flat non perishable materials Cynthia: yes please indicate it is from the class... Raelara: I should make some for the project mjb: so they are made with material ? JaneEb from x.x.x.204 joined the chat 6 hours ago Raelara: I have been doing butterflies, but for my quilt block Rosemarie: Thank you Cynthia: they would like a scan/pic as well beadntat: Is there a link with details about the bfly project? mjb: not tatting ? AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 sent out 2 invitations 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: just finished uploading my latest butterfly to the NSAN album. Whew! Raelara: http://www.hmh.org/ed_butterfly1.sh... AKTATTER: http://www.hmh.org/ed_butterfly1.sh... Cynthia: any medium even tatting and lace. crayon....just flat and non perishable please AKTATTER: Rose please label it as your work, I think it would be best, but you might add that you are a member of the otc JaneEb: When WILL you Americans stop messing with time at different times to when WE Brits mess with it?!?!?!? becky: ' AKTATTER: lol ok jane JaneEb: Hi folks - I've arrived but you know what I'm like - I'll soon forget!!! Cynthia: they want the artist as well as the group....it says all the details in the link... Jennifer from x.x.x.51 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: LET'S GET STARTED THERE IS A LOT TO COVER TODAY gardentat: :>) beadntat: aw Jane, that would be too logical!!! AnneB: I completely agree with Jane! Rosemarie: Thanks Georgia AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN mjb: wish we could mess with the time., I don't like it., JaneEb: AND you Amr AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Cynthia: the link is also on nsan....(newshuttlesandn eedles) maria alcantara: Maria alcantara; famalcan@prodigy.net.mx: Mexico Claudia: claudia meza, cloelo@gmail.com, ARGENTINA JaneEb: AND you Americans have got too many times - zones you call 'em picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA AKTATTER: MARCH 22, 2010 AFTERNOON REGULAR SESSION Elipand: elipand,TN,elipand@gmail .com mjb: Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana USA Jennifer: Hello everyone I'm joining for the first time. Raelara: Jenni Sherriff raelara at gmail.com San Lorenzo, CA, USA Gretta: Gretta Wilhite, Crane Hill, Alabama, USA beadntat: Kristina Plaas, Knoxville, TN an oldie who hasn't been to otc for 7 or 8 years! JaneEb: Jane in downtown UK lovetotat@gmail.com AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsø, Norway, solurab @ online.no Winkerbill: Stephanie W in western North Carolina USA Gina: Gina Shillitani deastrega@yahoo.com Tampa, FL USA becky: becky thesportsmanswife@hotmai l.com temple me usa Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK, USA, brasthatfit@yahoo.com Kathi: Kathi, kmmkmmk at gmail.com, Toledo, OH USA AKTATTER: JANE DID YOU KNOW THAT ALASKA HAS 4 TIMES ZONES? JaneEb: Well, that's darn greedy, Georgia!! Jenny: Jenny Griffin Northampton UK jenny.griffin@o2.co.uk AKTATTER: AND DID YOU KNOW THAT ALASKA IS BOTH THE EASTERN MOST AND THE WESTERN MOST STATE IN THE US? Winkerbill: FOUR????? Wow! I didn't realize it covered such a big area! Dorcas Ann from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 6 hours ago Rosemarie: Rosemarie Weber, Baltimore, MD, rweb53@verizon.net USA gardentat: Holly Mawby, Churchs Ferry ND, USA, mawby@dishmail.net AKTATTER: NOW HOW WOULD YOU LIKE TO DEAL WITH THAT MANY TIMES ZONES Dorcas Ann: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA JaneEb: NEVER!!!! Interesting. AnneB: Norway could have three, but we use only one... beadntat: oops, didn't know about adding email addys.... Kristina, TN beadntat@yahoo.com BahmaTerri: Terri Loren aka BahmaTerri@yahoo.com, San Diego, CA, USA mjb: Hello Dorcas Ann JaneEb: I can't deal with the one I've got!!! maria alcantara: nor crossing the street!!! jajajaja Dorcas Ann: hello JaneEb: True, Maria AKTATTER: ALL INFO IS OPTIONALBECKY BUT IT HELPS YOU TO FIND TATTING BUDDIES IF YOU ADD THE HOMETOWN AND EMAIL AnneB: The distances between the longitudes are shorter the further north you get Winkerbill: Jane, NEXT year we're going to move the clock ahead 10 minutes every day Sunday night through Friday night, then on Saturday night we'll move it back 1 hour....that way every week we'll get an extra hour of sleep. AKTATTER: WELCOME DORCAS AKTATTER: AND JENNIFER TOO Dorcas Ann: hello Winkerbill: that should keep all the clock-movers happy. AKTATTER: OK OUR LESSON FOR TODAY JaneEb: Gee, now that sounds a cool idea - more tatting time, eh? Andrea from x.x.x.102 joined the chat 6 hours ago Winkerbill: ;-) beadntat: never enough time to tat...or do other creative stuff AKTATTER: WOW A NEAT IDEA STEPH! Kathi: . AKTATTER: WB ANDREA AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... AKTATTER: JANE I AM PARTICULAR GLAD THAT YOU HAVE JOINED US TODAY Andrea: hi everybody! Andrea Marcolini, Moodus CT USA, amarcolini@sbcglobal.net , shuttle JaneEb: Oh, why's that, Georgia? What have I done wrong NOW!!!! Claudia: hi andrea Winkerbill: uh-oh, Jane, I'll make some room in my corner for you. Cynthia: all good Jane not wrong! Winkerbill: ;-) AKTATTER: TODAY OUR STUDIES REQUIRE THE USE OF THE SPLIT RING, JOSEPHINE KNOTS, LOCK STITCH CHAIN AND MORE Cynthia: you too wink.... AKTATTER: AND I WANT THE CLASS TO KNOW Raelara: time zones are confusing and unnecessary Raelara: IMO AKTATTER: HOW GRATEFUL I AM THAT YOU HAVE SUCH A WONDERFUL TALENT FOR TATTING Raelara: at least daylight savings time is AKTATTER: AND PUTTING UP SUCH REMARKABLE PATTERNS AND EXPLANATIONS OF TECHNIQUES AKTATTER: WE'LL BE VISITIN GYOUR SITE MORE THAN ONCE TODAY! Claudia: i agree, and her drawings and explanation are great! Cynthia: ditto what Georgia said Jan..... mjb: She is great., Jane EB that is., love her notes., each day beadntat: I went visitng to Jane's site last night. It's a goldmine!!! Cynthia: JaneEB.... JaneEb: Geee, thanks, Georgia but you know a lot of credit goes to you for 'careful hints'!!!!! Winkerbill: and Jane is patient and doesn't mind answering multiple e-mails to explain things ....until you finally GET it. maria alcantara: yipiiiiii you!!!! Jane AKTATTER: TEL BRB Cynthia: now that the mutual admiration society has met....for all opf us! Rosemarie: k gardentat: k Cynthia: sorry for the typos...this computer hates me....mine is in the shop.... JaneEb: Oh, geee, folks SHUT UP I'm blushing all over my keyboard. becky: ' Gina: . Kathi: . Elipand: k Gina: I'm a beginner, Jane, and I've learned a lot from your site Jenny: k Cynthia: we are being honest and you are being modest....we all love you and AK... AnneB: Just keep blushing Jane :-) Gina: and downloaded a bunch of patterns for someday when I get better :) Andrea: . Raelara: but she's right Jane! JaneEb: Georgia - PLEASE start the lesson!!!! AKTATTER: OH! AND JANE ADDED A SEARCH BOX TO HER PAGE TODAY TOO Raelara: we've all learned from you! gardentat: ok, I' m new - give me the site address so I can visit it too AKTATTER: OK OK AKTATTER: LET'S LOOK AT THE BUTTERFLY PATTERN FIRST PLEAS Cynthia: gina it will be here sooner than you think!.... BahmaTerri: Humble thanks to both Georgia & Jane for your contributions to tatting community!! JaneEb: Ah, but only cause you suggested it, Georgia!!! beadntat: Jane, I went looking for inspiration since I got roped into teaching tatting at my lys (yarn store). Your clear descriptions of techniques helped me in knowing how to teach my students. Thanks bunches!!! AKTATTER: :) AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... AKTATTER: MARLENE, MARTY, LEWIS IS A MEMBER OF HERE BE TATTERS AND THESE PATTERNS ARE POSTED nstitcher from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: IN THE HBT FILES HBT IS A GREAT GROUP TO JOIN I SURE RECOMMEND IT beadntat: my shuttles are a bit rusty...this pattern made me look cross-eyed trying to decipher things ;-P AKTATTER: WELCOME NINA maria alcantara: ... nstitcher: heloo small crisis after another today.. sorry I'm late picotsnkeys: Janes site: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/ picotsnkeys: right??? AKTATTER: GLAD U MADE IT ANYTIME gardentat: tanx Kathi: . AKTATTER: THIS BUTTERFLY, GEORGETTE'S BUTTERFLY Claudia from x.x.x.180 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: YEP mjb: k mjb: k AKTATTER: HAS A GRET DIAGRAM TO GO WITH IT Andrea: . AKTATTER: IT HAS THREE TECHINQUES THAT MAKE IT UNIQUE mjb: I love the antennaes AKTATTER: SPIRALING CHAINS gardentat: k AKTATTER: JOSEPHINE KNOTS/RINGS AKTATTER: AND OUR BY NOW FAMILAR DROP PICOT AKTATTER: THE DROP PICOT IN THIS PATTERN GIVE THE RING IN WHICH IT OCCERS AKTATTER: OCCURS THE LOOK OF A HEART AKTATTER: THIS IS A TECHNIQUE WE SHOULD ALL REMEMBER AND KEEP IN OUR TATTING KIT AKTATTER: EARLIER WE MENTIONED THAT TO MAKE THE DROP PICOT Rosemarie: k AKTATTER: WE TAT THE 1HS THEN THE 2HS IN REPETITION AS NOTED IN THE PATTERN AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN CALLS FOR 5 X 1HS PICOT 5 X 2HS Jenny: k Claudia: k AKTATTER: AND IT NOTES THE PICOT SHOULD BE A LONG ONE. Elipand: k AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE EXACTLY WHAT IS MEANT HERE http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/D... gardentat: k maria alcantara: . Gina: . AKTATTER: THAT JUST HAPPENS TO BE ONE OF JANE'S TUTORIALS :) AKTATTER: BUT OUR STUDIES HAVE TAUGHT US RECENTLY AKTATTER: THAT THERE IS ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE A DROP PICOT AKTATTER: THE TATMAN WAY! AKTATTER: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/... AKTATTER: HERE MARK MAKES THE PICOT AKTATTER: FOLDS IT DOWN AKTATTER: AND PLACES A DS OVER IT AKTATTER: NOW WITH THESE TWO TECHNIQUES IN MIND becky: ' AKTATTER: WHY DO YOU THINK THE HALF STITCH METHOD WAS CHOSEN FOR THIS PATTERN? AKTATTER: IT MIGHT HAVE BEEN PURE CHANCE Gretta: to make the heart Gina: becauwe of th edimple Gina: because AnneB: To make it curve dovn then up AKTATTER: BUT MARLENE USED THE HALF STITCH METHOD TO ENHANCE THE LOOK OF THE HEART, TO MAKE THE CLEAVAGE REALLY DEEP AKTATTER: RIGHT GINA AND GRETTA AND ANNE AKTATTER: WTG MARLENE! picotsnkeys: k beadntat: like this idea for an easy heart better than dimpled ring Kathi: . AKTATTER: NOW WHAT ABOUT THE JOSEPHINE KNOT/RING BahmaTerri: .. AKTATTER: IT MAKES A DISTINCT HEART SHAPE DOESN'T IT KRISTINA beadntat: gotta love that cleavage :-) Rosemarie: Me. too AKTATTER: WE USE THE TERM KNOT BECAUSE THAT WAS THE ORIGINAL NAME FOR IT WAY BACK WHEN Cynthia: k AKTATTER: BUT IT IS A RING IN THIS CASE AKTATTER: YOU BEGIN A JOSEPHINE RING WITH 1DS THEN REPEAT THE 1HS OR 2HS THE NUMBE ROF REPETITIONS CALLED FOR IN THE PATTERN AKTATTER: NOW WHICH TO USE 1HS OR 2HS? WHO HAS A PREFERENCE? maria alcantara: i prefer 2th part AKTATTER: ME TOO!!! AKTATTER: I DO THE 2HS, I LIKE THE LOOK BETTER Raelara: I generally use the 1st hs, but not for any particular reason AKTATTER: BUT IT IS PERSONALLY PREFERENCE Cynthia: depends on which way you want the turn to go doesn't it? Jenny: me too BahmaTerri: I like the 2HS too AKTATTER: THE MANNER IN LIES THE RING LIES WHEN FINISHED DIFFERS maria alcantara: it turns back......is more easy to put it rigt AnneB: I'm not that fond of josephine knots or chains, so I have no preference. but for the antennae I would us 1hs for one or 2hs for the other AKTATTER: YOU MUST CHOOSE THE LOOK YOU LIKE AKTATTER: RIGHT CYNTHIA IT DOES MAKE A DIFFERENCE JaneEb: Don't forget the other type of JR - where you throw the second half of the ds round the underside of the thread round the hand. I used this for one of the TIAS's. Makes a very pretty JK Cynthia: me too Anne AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk... Winkerbill: i usually use the 2nd half, but it depends (especially with a chain) on which direction you want it to spiral....and whether you'd be untwisting or enhancing the twist in your thread JaneEb: JR JK whatever - I know what I mean!! beadntat: you could do a mirror image in this pattern, one side the 1st hs, the other the 2nd AKTATTER: JANE IS THERE APAGE FOR THAT? AKTATTER: YES MIRROR ANTENNAE! JaneEb: Not sure!! It's on one of the TIAS's - I'll go and look Cynthia: that is what I thought it would do--opposite directions... Kathi: . AKTATTER: OK Winkerbill: we had a bird "attacking" my bathroom window, so we tried hanging a mirror in "his" tree, and he sits and flaps his wings at the mirror bird now instead of pecking and flapping at my window. ;-) oh...wrong mirror.... maria alcantara: . AKTATTER: LOL MY CAT TRIED TO ATTACK THE CAT HE SAW ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE DOOR beadntat: too funny, but a good idea...I bird issues too AKTATTER: SPECNT AGES POKING HIS HEAD INSIDE AND THEN OUTSIDE TO FIND THAT DARN CAT! Lilome from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 6 hours ago Lilome: Hi all Winkerbill: we laugh at the bird - he flaps a while, then goes around to sneak up on that other bird, and ...it's not there! Comes back to the mirror and starts all over again.... maria alcantara: i will try thar effect....thanks! Kathi: my antenna didn't spiral...what did I miss? becky: lol AnneB: Hi Lilome! Cynthia: hi please sign in--name location email please JaneEb: Can't find it but it's on a page somewhere. I'll do that as a page one day!! gardentat: :>) Lilome: I'm a biy late AKTATTER: OK JANE THANKS FOR LOOKING Lilome: just woke up Winkerbill: are you needle tatting Kathi? Kathi: shuttle AKTATTER: COULD YOU FIND THE LINK FOR THAT PEARL LOCK CHAIN? Winkerbill: sometimes my spirals aren't too good when I use the needle.... Winkerbill: are you doing only half the stitch (same half every time)? Kathi: yes Cynthia: sometimes I have to encourage them to go around AKTATTER: YOU HAVE TO TWIRL THE DS/HS WHEN THEY ARE TATTED ON THE NEEDLE SOMETIMES UNLESS IT IS A LONGER/LARGER PIECE Cynthia: twist a bit with my fingers nstitcher: . AKTATTER: OK THE ANTENNAE ARE ON STALKS Lilome: Omar ...Australia.... omeb@internode.on.net AKTATTER: SPIRAL CHAINS beadntat: so help my rusty shuttles....do i need 4 shuttles to work the bfly, or 2 shuttles/balls? Winkerbill: hmm....a ring doesn't always spiral, but you can kind of give it a twist if it's a chain.... AKTATTER: WELCOME OMAR AKTATTER: AND LILO Rosemarie: k AKTATTER: 2 SHUTTLES Andrea: . becky: ' BahmaTerri: .. AKTATTER: NOW SPIRAL CHAINS FALL UNDER THE TOPIC OF SETS OR NODE STITCHES Winkerbill: another "help" for the spiral is to pass the shuttle in the same direction WITHOUT making an actual half stitch every....oh, say ...every 5 half stitches. Took me a bit of practice to do this without accidentally making anothe HS, though. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/setstit... picotsnkeys: k Lilome: k AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE PHOTO ON THE LEFT AKTATTER: NEEDLE OR SHUTTLE THESE ARE THE EFFECTS YOU CREATE gardentat: very helpful, thanx maria alcantara: .. AKTATTER: MARLENE CREATED THE SPIRAL CHAINS USING THE SECOND HALF STITCH 2HS REPOEATED 45 TIMES beadntat: that sounds like roll tatting wink AKTATTER: WELCOME GARDEN IS THAT YOU ROSE? Cynthia: sprials can be a challenge...until you get one to work....very similar Cynthia: to roll I think... maria alcantara: you start and finish with a compleate dn? Claudia: the stiches can be flipped or unflipped? Winkerbill: yeah, I guess it's the same idea, but you don't pass the shuttle around the thread more than once every so often....seems to encourage the spiral to twirl. Lilome: k gardentat: it's Holly Rose - not sure that's the Rose you were looking for AKTATTER: NOW THE REST OF THE PATTERN IS ALL PLAIN TATTING EXCEPT THE 2 SPLIT RINGS AKTATTER: ALL ROSES WELCOME HERE :) Gina: . Jenny: k gardentat: :>) mjb: k AKTATTER: i ALWAYS START WITH FULL DS MARIA BUT DO NOT ALWAYS FINSIH WITH FULL DS maria alcantara: why? Lilome: k AKTATTER: THE HS CAN BE TATTED OR WRAPPED (NOT FLIPPED) YOUR CHOICE Elipand: k Claudia: ok, thanks AKTATTER: IF THE JK IS SMALL YOU WANT THE PATTERN TO CONTINUE TO THE END AKTATTER: OK SPLIT RINGS Lilome: k AnneB: are fun maria alcantara: ok Lilome: agree AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE A NEW TATTER THEN YO U MIGHT WANT TO READ THIS PAGE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes... becky: know that i can do them they are fun picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS TO MAKE A SPLIT RING IS ON THE TATTING NEEDLE BahmaTerri: .. AKTATTER: WRAP THE FIRST PART OF THE RING UNTHREAD THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE AND USE IT TO WRAPP THE REST OF THE RING mjb: I like split rings AKTATTER: RETHREAD AND SLIDE OFF AND ANCHOR INTO A RING AKTATTER: NOW FOR THE SHUTTLE TATTERS AKTATTER: IF THE SPLIT RING IS AN EASY ONE, I LIKE THE DEAD SPIDER METHOD Andrea: . AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/S... Lilome: k Gina: that's all I've tried is the dead spider method Claudia: araña muerta in spanish! lol BahmaTerri: me too - dead spider method AKTATTER: BUT I TELL YOU A SECRET beadntat: ewwww spiders! AKTATTER: LOL Lilome: all ears AKTATTER: IF THE BOTTOM HALF OF THE SPLIT RING IS FILLED WITH LOST OF PICOTS gardentat: me too AKTATTER: ONE OR MORE JOINS Raelara: dead spider is easiest for me too AKTATTER: OR IF IT THROWS OFF AN ELEMENT OF SOME KIND Winkerbill: as far as i'm concerned the on "good" spider is a DEAD spider. ;-) AKTATTER: I SWITCH TO THE ENCAPSULATON METHOD OF HOLDING MY HANDS Kathi: . Lilome: ? AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/E... Jenny: . Winkerbill: is that what the older books call "reverse tatting?" AKTATTER: JANE KINDLY PREPARED A DRAWING USING MY VERY OWN HANDS TO ILLUSTRATE THIS beadntat: I let em live outdoors, but if the spiders come into my parlor? poof! gone! Winkerbill: turn the ring upside down and wrap? AKTATTER: YES I BELIEVE SO STEPH Winkerbill: i let spiders live outdoors, too ,but if they come into MY parlor (or anywhere else, for that matter, it's more like "blood curdling screech!," gone. AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE PHOTOS HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/en... gardentat: ... picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: NOW WHO CAN TELL US WHERE THIS PATTERN STARTS? Cynthia: I spin the ring so the second half is on top and do the wrap method there...much like the encapsulation method you dod Lilome: k maria alcantara: A:A beadntat: at the jk Cynthia: an antenna Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Mar 23 01:43:15 2010 GMT - Visible content (139 KB) Page 2 of 3 - Char 51256 to 102467 - Newest entries at the bottom AnneB: At the antennae Claudia: josephine rings Cynthia: long tail for the antenna tho... beadntat: i needed a magnifying glass to figure it out! aging! Lilome: I do that too Cynthia Jenny: antenna then the split rings Lilome: antennae Cynthia: print it out on 1 page by clicking on the pic and copy to a page that is horizontal AKTATTER: OK HOW MANY SHUTTLES ARE IN USE FOR EACH ANTENNAE? Gina: oh is that why mine is squished> Raelara: Antenna A beadntat: good idea...i didn't think to do that late last night Cynthia: 1 with a long tail... Andrea: 2? AKTATTER: AH HA!!! AKTATTER: CYNTHIA GOT IT! Claudia: one? Jenny: 1 AKTATTER: THE TAIL IS LEFT LONG maria alcantara: one and ball( another shuttle) AKTATTER: MAKE THE JK USING ONE SHUTTLE Andrea: cool! Raelara: ah ... becuase you are doing two antennae nstitcher: nina richardson denver co nstitcher@gmail.com shuttle mostly AKTATTER: THEN COVER THE TAIL THREAD AND TEH CORE THREAD AS IN MAKING A SINGLE SHUTTLE CHAIN Lilome: one each Gina: I don't understand picotsnkeys: brb AKTATTER: LOOK HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/ss... beadntat: aha...the extra long tail then becomes 2nd antennae, ending with jk??? AKTATTER: nope AKTATTER: do each antennae Lilome: ???? Cynthia: I did it different--used the long tail to tat with to make the antenna maria alcantara: great idea.... AKTATTER: the bring the two shuttles together to tat the split ring B beadntat: ok...i didn't think so, but the rusty brain is trying to "think before tatting" AKTATTER: either way fine just cover the bare thread as in the photo and away you go! beadntat: someone taught me that a looong time ago :-D Rosemarie: k Cynthia: kind of finger tat the chain...does that help Omar? Claudia: caps g! Andrea from x.x.x.102 joined the chat 5 hours ago Elipand: k Andrea: SO cool! AKTATTER: OK THEN BEGIN ANTENNAE A SPLIT RING B SPLIT RING C gardentat: . maria alcantara: how long we need the thread???? do you have an idea G' Winkerbill: sort of like doing the 2nd part of a split chain, then? Lilome: I'kk have to think about it AKTATTER: THEN SLIP INTO SPLIT CHAIN D Gina: I'll have to study that more AKTATTER: RIGHT STEPH, WRAPPING LIKE A SPLIT CHAIN ONLY EASIER beadntat: ok, gotcha ak...that's the way I thought initially AKTATTER: FOR THE ANTENNAE AnneB: Argh a split chain! Still don't like those! AKTATTER: MAKE A SAMPLE CHAIN, SAY 50 DS, THE PLACE NEXT TO A RULER SO YOU CAN SEE HOW MANY DS TO THE INCH OR CM Gina: so you use the long tail as the "ball" thread? AKTATTER: AH BUT ITS A TINY ONE Winkerbill: ok. I was originally thinking that the antenna part was added on after the b-fly was finished....and thought I might use much thinner thread for the antenna section.... Winkerbill: but I can't do that, I see it more clearly now. Cynthia: but not really a split chain as yuou dend where you want not where you have to AKTATTER: ONLY 5 DS Jenny: why is d asplit chain and not a chain with a lj at the end? picotsnkeys: back maria alcantara: . AKTATTER: BECAUSE CHAIN D IS NORMAL UNTIL THE 5DS Elipand: k becky: ' picotsnkeys: I'm with you Wink. May still try it that way! AKTATTER: THEN YOU REACH OVER AND ANCHOR CHAIN D TO THE RING C AKTATTER: OR AKTATTER: MAY BE NOT AKTATTER: MAYBE THAT RED LINE INDICATES A PICOT ON RING C Lilome: k AKTATTER: IN WHICH CASE NO SPLIT CHAIN SI NEEDED HOORAY!!!! Cynthia: definitely hooooooray!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!! AKTATTER: WAS THAT A SIGH OF RELIEF I HEARD! Gina: do you use the long thread tail as the "ball" thread? AKTATTER: LOL AnneB: Yey! beadntat: my head is swimming! picotsnkeys: that's what I thought. I couldn't see the split chain. Whew! I'm not crazy!!!! gardentat: k maria alcantara: and then??? Cynthia: gina for the antenna--yes Jenny: That is how I did it Georgia beadntat: oh I hope no split ch is needed...don't like them AKTATTER: THE LONG TAIL DISAPPERS GINA AFTER THE ANTENNAE IS DONE Gina: thank you Cynthia Rosemarie: I don't have enough bread crumbs to get home. Raelara: lol picotsnkeys: lol Cynthia: they get in the keyborad Rosemarie... AKTATTER: YOU SEE THE THREAD TAIL IS COVERED UP INSIDE THE CORE Lilome: lol AKTATTER: YOU WILL JUST SNIP IT OFF WHEN ANTENNAE DONE mjb: k AKTATTER: THAT LEAVES JUST 2 THREADS ONE FOR EACH SHUTTLE Cynthia: or hide it in the split ring.... Gina: I think I understand... beadntat: lots of techniques to master in this one pattern maria alcantara: ... BahmaTerri: cool way of doing it! Claudia: i think so cynthia AKTATTER: MY GOODNESS THE HOUR HAS SL;IPPED AWAY AKTATTER: ANYONE WANT TO CONTINUE? Lilome: hmmmm Kathi: . Cynthia: it is a sampler of technmiques....I can Gina: yes BahmaTerri: sure maria alcantara: I can.... Claudia: yes AnneB: If the tail is the core of the antennae I'd hide them inside the SR just to make sure mjb: sure picotsnkeys: yes. I'd like to look at the ornament Lilome: I think I'm starting to understand beadntat: save teh other two patterns for another lesson Andrea: yes Raelara: sure becky: love to but need to leave see ya and thanks AnneB: I'm at the normal time for the start of class, so I have no problem continuing :-) Jenny: Sorry I will have to go gardentat: save the other two patterns for later picotsnkeys: actually, I only have one question: any pictures available? Jenny: see you all next week bye Gretta: i'll have to leave also. Elipand: I have to leave now.Thanks.Bye Cynthia: join us for the beginner class on Thursday at 3 or 9 Eastern time...and we can do a bit on that as welll...the sneaky chain AKTATTER: BYE ELAINE AKTATTER: FOR WHICH MEL? Jenny from x.x.x.14 left the chat 5 hours ago AKTATTER: BYE GERTTA picotsnkeys: the ornament AKTATTER: YE JENNY Rosemarie: k Lilome: k Gina: I started on the heart for the beginner class yesterday, Cynthia AKTATTER: THE LOCK STITCH ORNAMENT HAS ONLY A DIAGRAM RIGHT NOW BUT I HAVE ASKED MARTY FOR A PHOTO TOO Cynthia: great Gina becky from x.x.x.107 left the chat 5 hours ago AnneB: It will be when you have tatted one Melanie :-) picotsnkeys: ah! I'm having trouble visuallizing how a lock chain looks in real thread AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE LOCK STITHC METHOD Winkerbill: brb.... AKTATTER: http://www.janeeborall.freeservers.... maria alcantara: that one is not complicated G Jennifer: I'm leaving now, thanks for the lesson. AKTATTER: HERE IS A SAMPLE SEE THE CHAIN BELOW THE BUTTERFLY AKTATTER: BYE JENNIDER AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/P... Claudia: it makes a good effect Winkerbill: k Raelara: My treble clef has a lock chain too ... let me pull up the pic, it should be set for common viewing Winkerbill: heart? Is that the ...um...heart with the lock joins? AKTATTER: AND JANE'S EASY METHOD http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/P... Winkerbill: That's such a pretty one AKTATTER: AND A CLOSE UP OF A LOCK STITCH IN PROGRESS BY MARK http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/loc... AKTATTER: MARK'S CLOSEUP DETAIL SHOWS HOW EFFEECTIVE AND DECORATIVE THE LSC CAN BE WITH 2 COLORS Lilome: k AKTATTER: OH GREAT JENNI LET'S SEE IT Claudia: if you use three threads its called pearl tatting? AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON TODAY'S MATERIAL? Raelara: having trouble pulling it up Lilome: Oh Yes I've done that Lilome: Long time ago though AnneB: no Gina: oh that helps a lot AKTATTER: YES CLAUDIA IT IS A TYPE OF PEARL TATTING BUT PEARL TATTING IMPLIES A LITTLE MORE TO IT THAN THE LOCK STITCH DESCRIPTION BahmaTerri: no questions picotsnkeys: k Claudia: ok Lilome: k Raelara: http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.ph... Raelara: It's a facebook album, but I have it set to open viewing maria alcantara: i need to know how manu 3-3-3-3 ringa wi have in the bookmarK? Raelara: or I should have it that way Kathi: . AKTATTER: ALSO PEARL TATTING IS CALL MALTESE TATTING Raelara: the eighth note in the middle also has a lock stitch stem maria alcantara: . Raelara: can you pull it up? Claudia: they look nice jenni! beadntat: sorry, I'm not a facebook person...can't view it picotsnkeys: unfortunately, I've not been able to sign in to Facebook due to computer problems. Lilome: Yes I've looked Raelara Rosemarie: Have to go - thanks for the class Georgia and Cynthia - Bye All. AKTATTER: THAT IS CUTE! Lilome: They look great BahmaTerri: oh, I didn't know they were the same thing (pearl & maltese) Raelara: you don't have to sign in picots ... just click the link maria alcantara: sorry i don´t use facebook... AKTATTER: HOW MANY RINGS 1 IN THE BOOKMARK LET ME COUNT Raelara: I have it so you can see it w/out a facebook account AKTATTER: BYE ROSE gardentat: Have to go too - thanks so much Claudia: jenni, i have to sign in to see them Lilome: I had to sign in picotsnkeys: won't open the link for me Cynthia: I had to sign in to see it.... AnneB: Lovely Jenni! Raelara: odd ... you shouldn't picotsnkeys: asks me to sign in beadntat: gotta go...family issue Thx AK!!! Raelara: I will have to check the settings Gina: I saw it picotsnkeys: computer problems! probably me not you! picotsnkeys: sigh....the fun of having a teen in the house! lol Winkerbill: it wouldn't let me see it without signing in or signing up for an account. Cynthia: Raelara you can email it to them I think... Raelara: I will have to check on that. maria alcantara: G: 4 or 6??? picotsnkeys: if you could email a pic, I'd love to see it! Andrea: I had to sign in - they're so cute! Cynthia: Raelara can you send the pic to Georgia so she can post it Raelara: eventually I want to start a blog for these patterns, but I want to get more to blog about firest Raelara: first Winkerbill: i'd love to see it, too. AKTATTER: MARIA I CAN'T FIND A RING THAT IS 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 Claudia: son solo dos me parece maria Raelara: I'll send G the pic ... that's a good idea AKTATTER: GREAT JENNI! maria alcantara: they are between the bottons... Claudia: it says in the base of scmr Cynthia: it is the small ones betweeen the buttons...I had to look hard to discover it too Lilome: small split rings maria alcantara: split rings 3-3/3-3... Claudia: ahhh Winkerbill: sorry, I've got to leave. Have a beautiful week everybody! Winkerbill from x.x.x.218 left the chat 5 hours ago Raelara: You know G, my lesson may end up being more than one week too ... I can't imagine getting through it all in one hour maria alcantara: but in the top.....in grey I think there are two more.... AKTATTER: WELL i MUST ENLARGE THE DIAGRAM BECAUSE I CANNOT MAKE OUT THE NUMBERS SORRY AKTATTER: YOU ARE RIGHT! Lilome: yes Cynthia: looks like and yes I agree Maria at the top too.... Raelara: I better go ... see you all next week Cynthia: Maria has better eyes than some of us AKTATTER: AT THE BOTTOM OF THE TOP FOUR RINGS THAT MIGHT BE TWO MORE TINY RINGS Lilome: bye maria alcantara: but those are simply rings...... the diagram shows the sime size rings...so ??? AKTATTER: i WILL ENLARGE THE DIAGRAM AND PUT SOME BIG NUMBERS ON IT BahmaTerri: must get back to work. have a great week everyone! Gina: that would be great, Georgia AKTATTER: AT THE TOP THE LARGE RING IS AN SCMR Gina: I'm having a hard time reading it too Claudia: there four between buttons maria alcantara: thank you G!!!!!! because I pass a long time imagining what i have to do... Claudia: split rings Gina: and I have relatively young eyes LOL AKTATTER: http://www.gr8shuttles.com/scmrinst... Raelara from x.x.x.184 joined the chat 5 hours ago Kathi: Time to go. Good lesson! Thanks Everyone!!! AKTATTER: WITH THE THREE RINGS THROWN OFF AS FLOATING RINGS Raelara: kids are being entertained ... guess I will stick around more Lilome: tes maria alcantara: yes claudia, but at the top in grey there are 2 more...i think... AKTATTER: OK THEN I WILL WORK ON THAT THIS AFTERNOON. Lilome: 'm a fan of the gr8 Claudia: si, dos mas ,,, comunes,, mismo conteo AKTATTER: AND THIS LESSON REPEATS TONIGHT AT 8:30PM ET NEW YORK TIME AKTATTER: UNTIL THEN THANKS SO MUCH FOR STOPPING BY mjb: thanks Georgia., good class AKTATTER: BYE FOR NOW AND HAPPY TATTING ALL AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO MARTY FOR SHARING HER WORK AnneB: Me too. I'm working on a SCMR motif right now :-) maria alcantara: pero el patron no lo indica...jajajjaja...hay que adivinar...jajaja} AKTATTER: IT SURE GAVE US A WORKOUT! Claudia: thanks g and marlene lewis Lilome: I'm going to try and be back for that AnneB: Bye and thanks Georgia! picotsnkeys: thank you Georgia AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 left the chat 5 hours ago Claudia: and jane maria alcantara: thank you G!!!!!!!! Lilome: It will be mid 11;30 am here Gina: see y'all later picotsnkeys: must go also. picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 left the chat 5 hours ago maria alcantara: see you later girla... maria alcantara: au te veo en la otra pagina..... Claudia: si puedo te veo mas tarde maria Claudia: okis Dorcas Ann: thank you Claudia: bye girlsssss maria alcantara: vendras a la otra clase??? maria alcantara: BYE maria alcantara: . Cynthia: bye everyone remember beginner class on Thursday... Claudia: no se si pueda maria alcantara: entonces espero verte pronto...por el ciberespacio...jajajja Claudia: en ning, voy un ratito Claudia: chauuuu Lilome: I'd better get going too I'm still in brd woth my laptop only 7:30 am her AnneB: LOL maria, all your jajaja-s are yes-yes-yes in Norwegian :-) Lilome: bye all and thanks AnneB: Bye Lilome maria alcantara: i knoe anne but i lagh in sapnish i dont know how you laugh in norwegian....hehehhe???? AnneB: hahaha LOL maria alcantara: next time i will remember it....hahahahaha Cynthia: any way we want to....laughter is universal....lol jajaja, hahaha.... AnneB: but youo could do a hehehe or a hohoho also maria alcantara: i don´t know why my computer is spelling so bad...... Cynthia: good point Anne....my grasp of languages is a lot less than yours!!! but computers think spelling must be perfect AnneB: hihi works to Cynthia: as long as we communicate who cares about the typos... maria alcantara: next class i will do it hahahahhehehihihihohohoh .... AnneB: could you laugh using jojojo? maria alcantara: because in sapnish we can make a difference between useinh a e o or i.... maria alcantara: hohohoho i sSants .... Cynthia: bye the language lesson is losing me....Peace maria alcantara: BYE cIN,... AnneB: By Cynthia! hehe AnneB: I'll be leaving too AnneB: Bye Maria and every one who is left! AnneB: See you around! maria alcantara: Anne a pleasure talk to you...i admire your tattinggg...always... AnneB from x.x.x.57 left the chat 5 hours ago maria alcantara from x.x.x.235 joined the chat 2 hours ago ginabea from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 2 hours ago ginabea from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 2 hours ago ginabea from x.x.x.98 joined the chat 2 hours ago ginabea: ginabea in OKC Greengal from x.x.x.15 joined the chat 2 hours ago Greengal: Hi gina I have no idea if Im late or early with these time changes picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 102 minutes ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.125 joined the chat 102 minutes ago AKTATTER: hello all picotsnkeys: Hi AK AKTATTER from x.x.x.125 sent out an invitation 101 minutes ago AKTATTER: did you get the diagram? picotsnkeys: yes. I'm just so exhausted, I'm having trouble learning today. Sigh picotsnkeys: I'll have more of everything (time, energy) tomorrow. If I have questions, I'll email picotsnkeys: I did finish the shamrock wreath up to the last joins. I'm too tired to try to finish tonight. AKTATTER: ok that's fine anytime remember this is supposed tobe FUN picotsnkeys: It is.....so was the weekend...it's a good tired! picotsnkeys: could be an interesting rehearsal later. :) AKTATTER: well I am glad it was worth while for you. and something to look forward to also picotsnkeys: I received the Artisan binder from TAT and was pleasantly surprised to be familiar with all of the techniques, and several of the designers alanirwin from x.x.x.186 joined the chat 96 minutes ago alanirwin: hello all Greengal from x.x.x.15 joined the chat 95 minutes ago AKTATTER: hello alan picotsnkeys: kudoos to you and the rest of the online folk! AKTATTER: welcome back green AKTATTER: wow that is promising Mel you have it done in no time Greengal: Hi all AKTATTER: an extra diagram was posted after class today AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... AKTATTER: we were having trouble reading the ds count picotsnkeys: hello Alan. Are you ever in the Bay Area? AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions tonight? picotsnkeys: Hi Greengal AKTATTER: or is it early am for you alan> alanirwin: yes, my family is in the bay area Greengal: I had one but as soon as I logged on it fell out of my brain grrr alanirwin: I'm looking in my notes for questions Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 92 minutes ago picotsnkeys: Ah! I'm in South bay AKTATTER: hi gail picotsnkeys: Hi Gail Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 91 minutes ago AKTATTER: I used to live in Alameda and in Hayward :) Cynthia: Hi I made it back.... AKTATTER: long years ago AKTATTER: wb cyn alanirwin: hi cynthia picotsnkeys: Hi Cynthia Gail: Evening all Gail: Sorry I missed last week, g. AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions? alanirwin: hello gail AKTATTER: glad you can make it anytime gail Gail: Hello alan Gail: Home invasion of the grandson type. alanirwin: Cynthia, do you remember the question we had from Thurs. class? alanirwin: I can't find it in my notes Cynthia: hmmmmmmmmmmmmm it is on my computer in the shop....lset me think..... alanirwin: oh right ... you're computer went down that day alanirwin: does it look repairable? Cynthia: and today it went to the shop so not only do I have to use hubbys but I don't have any notes or anything! the darn computer suddenly couldn't identify itself.....but the good news is the tech thinks it is a reasonably easy repair---just will take awhile alanirwin: Good! and I think I remember the question alanirwin: forward vs. tradiaional tatting, and whether it made a difference when using a needle AKTATTER: wow a computer that can't remember... Cynthia: My daughter was able to get most of the info off of it when it had a moment of recognizing its own files--not to get it all off the thumb drive without adding it to hubby's machine..... AKTATTER: ok is that front side vs back side as opposed to traditional rings up and chains down? AKTATTER: or something else? Cynthia: no if I remember right it was how to do the difference in needle.... alanirwin: oh my, you're question went right over my head...probably the former Cynthia: let me try again... AKTATTER: ok Gail: k Cynthia: how do you do front sidde vs traditional with needle or does the needle do front side automatically...is that right Alan? alanirwin: yes, sounds right AKTATTER: no the needle does not automatically make the work have the front side up AKTATTER: every time you rw for chain etc you need to reverse the half stitch order AKTATTER: Ok? alanirwin: is that instead of flipping the piece over, or in addition to? AKTATTER: in addition to alanirwin: hmm, that might explain my wobbly practice pieces AKTATTER: any other needle tatting questions? picotsnkeys: For me on needles, it wasn't until I pulled everything tight that the chains arced correctly. Therefore, it didn't seem to matter until I used better technique picotsnkeys: I remember there being something about magic thread also, but can't remember what AKTATTER: compressing ghe chains to the starting point is a great way to enhance the curve of a chain alanirwin: thanks! AKTATTER: ok question for you AKTATTER: how to you create the drop picot on the tatting needle Cynthia: and tensioning/compressing makes it look crisper too so it isn't so wobbly AKTATTER: making sure the needle size corresponds to the thread also helps to firm up the work AKTATTER: any guesses??? AKTATTER: the method is the same Lilome from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 78 minutes ago Lilome: Hi Cynthia: Hi Omar Lilome: m back AKTATTER: 1hs so many times picot 2hs so many times Lilome: Hi Cynthia AKTATTER: welcome back AKTATTER: now when the ring or chain comes off the needle Lilome: I've done and antenna ... Wally from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 77 minutes ago AKTATTER: which way will the drop picot point or face? Cynthia: how did it work? Wally: Hi everyone! Greengal: what will any increase or decrease inthe no of hs do? AKTATTER: welcome wwally!!!! Lilome: Hi Wally AKTATTER: it will actually change the look of the pattern green Cynthia: Hi Wally been awhile hasn't it? AKTATTER: for instance Cynthia: deepens the curve or cleavage right? AKTATTER: if the pattern 2 x 1hs picot 2 x 2 hs the will be only a short opening showing above the drop picot AKTATTER: but if the pattern is 5 x 1hs picot 5 s 2hs as in Marty's butterfly picotsnkeys: Hi Wally and Omar Lilome: k Lilome: Hi AKTATTER: there is more space in the opening and it adds to the design here creatring deep cleavage for a heart look to the ring AKTATTER: right cyn AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions? Lilome: makes a beautiful heart shape Gail: k AKTATTER from x.x.x.125 sent out an invitation 73 minutes ago Greengal: will it work if you start the ch or r with ordinary ds and then change to hs Lilome: k Lilome: I think it would work picotsnkeys: it should AKTATTER: yes it will Lilome: k Greengal: so i can have all the p on a r facing out except for one. cool Suz from x.x.x.89 joined the chat 71 minutes ago AKTATTER: hey Suz and sharon come on inand join us Cynthia: Hi Suz AKTATTER: that is right Suz: Ready to play! AKTATTER: and there are ways to get lots of picots and even a ring inside a ring too omar AKTATTER: that is called pearl or maltese tatting Lilome: Is that by using the hs Lilome: Oh Lilome: yes Sherong from x.x.x.48 joined the chat 69 minutes ago AKTATTER: just look at this http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes... AKTATTER: welcome Sheron Sherong: Hi all AKTATTER: pearl tatting we add a third thread Cynthia: Suz did I get you added to the nsan group? my computer was doing odd things and did not do everything I ntold it to.... AKTATTER: open chat continues 6 more minutes Sherong: Oops, brb Lilome: Ooo wow Lilome: hat looks good AKTATTER: does anyone know madwoman in the attic? Gail: ? picotsnkeys: doesn't sound familiar name to me Lilome: I'm sure I did a workshop on pearl tatting about 8 years ago Suz: Opps off checking out the link. I tried to get on that night, but I think I need an invatation now. AKTATTER: here is another example of maltese tatting http://www.georgiaseitz.com/morales... Lilome: Shesounds like a fun girl Wally: http://needles-n-shuttles.com/Thank... this is my maltese heart Gail: Pretty Lilome: brb turning the printer on AKTATTER: here is the classic explanation http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes... Gail: Pretty,Wally Paule from x.x.x.109 joined the chat 65 minutes ago Paule: Allo everyone Paule: Am I late? Wally: Allo Paule! AKTATTER: oh I remember the night you first made that Wally, it was so stunning! AKTATTER: welcome paule no just about to get started open chat still Greengal: so can we do that with the needle stead of shuttles Katie V from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 64 minutes ago Katie V: hi, tatters! Lilome: k Wally: i think it's easier with the needles than with the shuttle Lilome: Thats lovely Wally Tat Pat 1 from x.x.x.95 joined the chat 63 minutes ago Wally: thanks lilome Greengal: truly looks so complex Tat Pat 1: Hi everyone. AKTATTER: yes that particular style is easier with the needle AKTATTER: welcome pat AKTATTER: just one ds at a tinem omar AKTATTER: er time Lilome: I only shuttle tat but i'm sure I'l be able to manage AKTATTER: you can do the pearl tatting or maltese tatting with the needle Katie V: beautiful heart, Wally--with the maltese flowers. Suz: . AKTATTER: i use both hands to wrap the ds and the needle carries the core thread AKTATTER: or warp one with left hand AKTATTER: wrap one with right hand etc Lilome: Ok Gail: k Paule: Wally you mean it is easier to do maltese with needles? Lilome: I'll study the method and have a go AKTATTER: you can use a second needle to make a ring using either the left or right hand threads too AKTATTER: cut threadds of course Wally: . Wally: yep, at least for me. you just alternate the threads on the needles AKTATTER: here is how i do it with 2 hands Wally: don't need to take the ring out of the hand AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/pear... Paule: ...have tp try that AKTATTER: LETS GET STARTED AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Tat Pat 1: Patsy A. Goodman, Chula Vista, CA, USA, karpap@cox.net AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA Wally: wally sosa, needledreams@yahoo.com Puerto Rico Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com Katie V: Katie Verna, Creedmoor NC katie@r-v-r.com Lilome: Omar Bentley omeb@internode.on.net Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 59 minutes ago AKTATTER: MARCH 22, 2010 EVENING SESSION Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Mar 23 01:43:45 2010 GMT - Visible content (139 KB) Page 3 of 3 - Char 102468 to 143337 - Newest entries at the bottom alanirwin: Alan Irwin, santa barbara, ca, USA, alanirwin@cox.net AKTATTER: TONIGHT OUR LESSON IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC Suz: Suz Crites scrites@charter.net Jackson, MO Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotro n.ca Gail: Gail Hayes, Alabama, llawen1@yahoo.com AKTATTER: THERE ARE 3 PATTERNS TO PRINT OFF AKTATTER: AND A NEW DIAGRAM WAS ADDED THIS AFTERNOON AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... picotsnkeys: brb phone AKTATTER: OK EVERYONE READY? Suz: yes Tat Pat 1: ready. Paule: yes! AKTATTER: WE WILL START WITH THE BOOKMARK PATTERN TONIGHT Sandy from x.x.x.19 joined the chat 57 minutes ago Sandy: Hi! Sorry I'm late. Cynthia: Suz my other computer went down and I may have to re send the invite...I lost everything I had tried to do that evening,,,,arrrgggghhhhh AKTATTER: A VERY NICE PATTERN WHICH USES BUTTONS IN THE DESGING Sandy: Sandy Cofer, Bremerton, WA AKTATTER: SANDY Suz: Thanks...I will be looking for something soon. Wally: Buttons! My favs. :-) AKTATTER: WELCOME Lilome: k AKTATTER: THE HOLES IN THE BUTTONS ARE USED FOR JOINS AKTATTER: AND YOU TREAT THEM JUST AS IF THEY WERE A PICOT AKTATTER: WE HAD A HARD TIME READING THE NUMBERS I NTHE PATTERN EARLIER AKTATTER: BUT I BELIEVE THAT THE DS COUNT IS 5 DS BETWEEN EACH PICOT OR JOIN AKTATTER: EXCEPT FOR RING A WHICH IS MIDPOINT ON EACH SIDE picotsnkeys: the family needs my full attention. I'll catch the log later. Thank you for the class, though! AKTATTER: AND AT THE BOTTOM picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 left the chat 54 minutes ago AKTATTER: NIGHTERS MEL Lilome: night mel AKTATTER: THE LINE THRU THE RINGS IN THE TAIL = SPLIT RINGS stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 54 minutes ago AKTATTER: EACH INNER MOTIF OR SQUARE Cynthia: Suz I just sent the invite....hopefully this computer likes me.... Gail: k stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 53 minutes ago AKTATTER: HAS 4 SMALL RINGS WHICH ARE R 3 DS Lilome: k Suz: tnkx Wally: . AKTATTER: AND THESE SMALL RINGS ARE USED AS SPLIT RINGS TO CLIMB FROM MOTIF TO MOTIF stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 53 minutes ago AKTATTER: FIRST MOTIF IN THE ROW AFTER THE TAIL AKTATTER: ONLY HAD 2 SMALL RINGS TO CLIMB OUT stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 52 minutes ago AKTATTER: SO THE WAY TO WORK THE PATTERN IS FROM TAIL UP AKTATTER: OR POINT DOWN Sandy: k stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 52 minutes ago Tat Pat 1: ok AKTATTER: YOU WORK ONE SIDE AT A TIME Paule: You mean start from SCMR? stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 51 minutes ago AKTATTER: IF YOU START AT THE TAIL AND WORK UP IT IS ALL ONE PASS Lilome: Oh i'm glad you mentioned that AKTATTER: THE LARGE RING AT THE VERY TOP AKTATTER: IS NOT A RING Gail: brb Wally: Ok. so we start at the tail then? AKTATTER: IT IS AN SCMR Lilome: I couldn't find ring A AKTATTER: SELF-CLOSING MOCK RING stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 51 minutes ago AKTATTER: START AT THE TAIL AND IT IS EASY paulaw from x.x.x.109 joined the chat 50 minutes ago AKTATTER: START AT THE TOP AND IT IS HARDED AKTATTER: HARDED BECASUE OF THE SPLIT RINGS IN THE TAI; Lilome: Wouldn't ring A be an ordinary ring? AKTATTER: WELCOME SHARON AKTATTER: kATIE!! GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO Sandy: Is there s stitch count for the SCMR? Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 50 minutes ago Lilome: and then all the others be SRs stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 49 minutes ago AKTATTER: RING A IS THE ONLY RING THAT HAS BUNCHES OF PICOT Katie V from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 49 minutes ago Katie V: Good to see you too, AK! stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 49 minutes ago Suz: . Wally: . Lilome: k AKTATTER: MY GUESS WHEN I ENLARGED IT WAS CH 5 DS THROW OFF RING 5 DS THROW OFF RING 5 DS THROW OFF RING END WITH 5 DS stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 left this message 48 minutes ago: I'm having compuiter issues, every time I "join chat" I get an error screen. AKTATTER: OK THE TECHNIQUES TO KNOW ARE THE SPLIT RING stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 48 minutes ago Paule: wait wait wait AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/S... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes... AKTATTER: YES PAULE? AKTATTER: IS IT OK NOW SHARON? Suz: cynthia...my invite came in ... thanks! Sandy: Thanks! Paule: split rings from the tail Greengal: working in bigger thread i does the button size go up accordingly Paule: then little ring 3ds AKTATTER: YES 6 SPLIT RING THROWING OFF A SIDE RING ON EACH SIDE UP TO THE FIRST MOTIF Paule: 3ds p 3dsp 3ds Cynthia: yes Greengal Gail: k Paule: then chain 5 joion to button AKTATTER: THE FIRST MOTIF HAS TWO LARGER RINGS R 5 + 5 - 5 - ON EACH SIDE Paule: ah! AKTATTER: RIGHT CH R TO THE BUTTON AND JOIN CH 5 OVER AND DO ANOTHER RING r 5 + 5 - 5 Sandy: k Lilome: k AKTATTER: THE OTHER SIDE OF THE FIRST MOTIF HAS THE TWO TINY RINGS WHICH ARE SPLIT RINGS USED TO CLIMB OUT AKTATTER: OK? Lilome: k AKTATTER: AND YOU NEED TO KNOW THE SCMR AKTATTER: http://www.gr8shuttles.com/scmrinst... AKTATTER: TEH SCMR IS A SELF-CLOSING MOCK RING , A CHAIN THAT TURNS BACK AND JOINS TO ITSELF TO MAKE A RING Greengal: for the p join onto the button I just pull a loop through and pass needle through? AKTATTER: EXCEPT FOR THE RING A PATTERN AKTATTER: AND THE MIDDLE PICOT ONTHE RINGS IN THE FOUR CORNER AKTATTER: AND ON THE TAIL AKTATTER: ALL THE PICOTS SHOULD BE SMALL AND THE JOINS SHOUJLD BE TIGHT Tat Pat 1: ok Suz: . AKTATTER: YES GAIL OR DOWN AND DIRTY JUST DROP THE NEEDLE THRU THE HOLE Lilome: ok AKTATTER: BUT LEAVES ONLY 4 THREADS SHOWING ON THE BUTTON INSTEAD OF 8 PERSONAL CHOICE AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS??? Wally: nop Lilome: Im good AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT MARLENE, MARTY, LEWIS' BUTTERFLY PATTERN Sandy: Has anyone tried this in thread bigger than 80? paulaw: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... Lilome: I'm going to Gail: k Wally: I'm planing in using #20 Sandy: Hmmm. Maybe 40 AKTATTER: NO THIS IS A BRAND NEW PATTERN TO ME BUT I LOOK FORWARD TO TRYING IT SNDY Cynthia: bigger buttons might be a challenge for a bookm ark tho... AKTATTER: LARGER SQUARES FEWER REPEATS Lilome: i'll be using 20 too Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 40 minutes ago AKTATTER: OK GEORGETTE'S BUTTERFLY Lilome: Hi Riet Wally: or instead of bookmark can be use as a motif like to make a cellphone bag or something like that AKTATTER: RIET WELCOME IT IS SO GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE, MY IT IS THE MIDDLE OF THE NIGHT FOR YOU! Riet de B-engel: Good evening all Am I to late Wally: Hi Riet! AKTATTER: NEVER TOO LATE RIET WE ARE ABOUT TO START THE BUTTERFLY PATTENR Riet de B-engel: Hi Wally AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ma... Sandy: Wally, a cellophane bag? Paule: Allo Riet! Welcome! AKTATTER: THIS IS SUCH A CLEVER LITTLE BUTTERFLY Sandy: Oh! Cell phone Lilome: k AKTATTER: IT MAKES US DIP DEEP INTO OUR TATTING KIT FOR SEVERAL TECHNIQUES Wally: cell phone. lol AKTATTER: THE FIRST IS THE MOST OBVIOUS stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 39 minutes ago AKTATTER: THE DROP PICOTS AKTATTER: MARTY MADE THESE DROP PICOTS Suz: . AKTATTER: 5 X 1HS PICOT 5 X 2HS AKTATTER: AND IT WAS A LONG PICOT TOO AKTATTER: THIS REALLY ENHANCE THE LOOK OF A HEART FOR THIS RING AKTATTER: HERE IS ONE WAY TO DO THE DROP PICOT http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/D... AKTATTER: THESE USES THE HALF STITCHES AS MARTY DID AKTATTER: BUT YOU CAN ALSO DOA DROPICOT AKTATTER: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/... Lilome: k AKTATTER: HERE MARK TATS THE DS PICOT DS THEN FOLDS THE PICOT DOWN AND TATS OVER IT AKTATTER: AGAIN YOU CHOOSE WHAT LOOK YOU WANT AKTATTER: OUR BUTTERFLY HAS 2 SPLIT RINGS AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/S... Cynthia: I want to try Mark's method I know Jane's works... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes... AKTATTER: AND THERE ARE 4 PICOTS ON THE LARGER RING Riet de B-engel: There is another way for a drop picot Greengal: i dont see the 5 X 1HS PICOT 5 X 2HS on ring F AKTATTER: YOU MAY NEED TO USE A PICOT GAUGE AKTATTER: YSE RIET TELL US Lilome: Will you get the nice heart shape with Marks method?? Wally: I have a question about the antennas. Do we start on them using 2 shuttles for each one? Wally: oh yes, Riet has one Riet de B-engel: It is a verry small picot a blong picot and than pullthe long one through the small as far as I remember Cynthia: it is hard to see Greengal...look at the diagram and see the teal color at the top of the "heart" and you can see it a bit better than in the pic AKTATTER: ONE SHUTTLE FOR EACH RING WALLY AND I HAVE PHOTOS TO SHOW YOU HOW Riet de B-engel: I did it in a small project that I mailed you Georgia it is on AKTATTER: THERE IS A TYPED NOTE NEXT TO THE DIAGRAM GREEN Lilome: k Gail: k Tat Pat 1: ok AKTATTER: IT SAYS THAT THE TURQUOISE AREA OF THE RING = THE DROP PICOT = 5X1HS PICOT 5X2HS paulaw: k stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 32 minutes ago Suz: . AKTATTER: CAN YOU REMEMBER THE NAME OF THE PATTERN?? AKTATTER: OK GREEN? Riet de B-engel: For the antenna's I left a long end and fingertatted the chain and worked the end away in the Split ring Wally: here is the link on Bina's site http://www.paradisetreasures.com/ri... stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 32 minutes ago Greengal: SO the so from the join there is 5ds the 5ist hs the 52nd hs then 10 ds then join Sherong: With Mark's tech you would end up with the picot hanging down one stitch from where it was made. Might need to adjust stitch count so 1 less before leaving the picot AKTATTER: OK GOOD THANKS FOR THAT LINK Wally: ah, ok, the antennas can be make like when encapsulating threads AKTATTER: LEFT AND RIGHT RINGS HEART ARE MIRROR IMAGES AKTATTER: RIGHT SHERON GOOD POINT TO TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION AKTATTER: RIGHT WALLY Lilome: k CelticDreamWeaver from x.x.x.244 joined the chat 29 minutes ago AKTATTER: OK GREEN THE HEART O NTHE RIGHT SIDE Riet de B-engel: Hi Sherry CelticDreamWeaver: Oh my gosh the time has gotten away with me but at least I can say HI to everybody in class CelticDreamWeaver: HOwdy Riet Cynthia: Hi Skherry Wally: So many techs to practice with these little butterfly! The Spanish class will be thrill! Sherong: Re antenna: with ball thread leave bare thread space, make ring, tat back over the bare thread, on thread used, then do other antenna and finish ring. CelticDreamWeaver: How is the sweet tatter from Netherlands stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 28 minutes ago AKTATTER: R 10 JOIN 10 5X1HS PICOT 5X2HS 5 PICOT 10 PICOT 5 CLOSE RING AKTATTER: HI YA SHERRY CelticDreamWeaver: HIYA AK stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 28 minutes ago AKTATTER: OK LETS LOOK AT THOSE ANTENNAE Riet de B-engel: The same with me Sherry but we don't have changed the time, so don't know what the time is overthere Greengal: k CelticDreamWeaver: Hi Cynthia AKTATTER: THE ANTENNAE USE ONE SHUTTLE EACH Sherong: if starting some where else AKTATTER: TAT THE TINY RING, THE SPIRAL CHAIN AND THEN JOIN SHUTTLES TOGETHER TO MAKE THE SPLIT RING B AKTATTER: NOW TO MAKE THE TINY RINGS Suz: k CelticDreamWeaver: so is it 2Am over where you are Riet? AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN CALLS FOR THE JOSPEHINE RING/KNOT AKTATTER: http://www.paradisetreasures.com/ri... Riet de B-engel: Yes a qarter past 2 CelticDreamWeaver: good guess huh? AKTATTER: START RING WITH 1 DS THEN USE ONLY A HALF STITCH FOR THE REST OF THE RING AKTATTER: FIRST OR SECOND HALF YOUR CHOICE BUT THEY DO LOOK DIFFERENT WHEN CLOSED Greengal: so with needle I do what AKTATTER: I MOSTLY USE 2HS FOR MY JKS Riet de B-engel: The rings like for me on the picture normal rings AKTATTER: NOW HOW TO GET THIS RING AT THE END AND THEN GET BACK TO THE SPLIT RING Cynthia: Riet I'd be cross eyed and unable to type....my typos are bad enough when I'm awake! I'm impressed AKTATTER: ENCAPSULATION!! AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/E... Tat Pat 1: I'm lost, where are we at now? AKTATTER: JANE MADE AN ILLUSTRATION USING MY VERY OWN HANDS AS A MODEL Riet de B-engel: the antenna's AKTATTER: THE TINY RINGS ARE JK AND THAT IS WHAT WE THINK IS THE START Lilome: k Cynthia: trying to get to ring B... AKTATTER: AND HERE IS THE FULL LAYOUT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/en... - CelticDreamWeaver: You should have seen the shamrock my new tatting student made CelticDreamWeaver: sent me a picture and it was beautifully done CelticDreamWeaver: I was impressed AKTATTER: YOU ARE WRAPPING OVER THE TAILS AND THE CORE THREAD AKTATTER: AND FOR THIS I CALL IT A SINGLE SHUTTLE CHAIN CelticDreamWeaver: she isn't in class here tonight I see Tat Pat 1: Thanks. Riet de B-engel: You tat over the corethread and the tails where do you find the core thread Paule: 2 HD? AKTATTER: RIGHT Riet de B-engel: I tatted the antenne with the long left tail Paule: 2HS? Lilome: So did I Sherong: Why?? Start with the head ring, work to where first antenna is, leave bare thread length, do small ring, tat antenna back, repeat to/for second antenna, finish ring and go from there. Suz: . AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/ss... AKTATTER: THE PHOTOS EXPLAIN TI ALL Wally: Sorry gals. Will have to go. The Lupus has been very active this last 2 weeks and the heat is not helping either. Need a cold shower. Will read the log later! Enjoy the class! CelticDreamWeaver: nite Wally Lilome: k Cynthia: peace wally.... Riet de B-engel: by wally AKTATTER: NIGHT WALLY Paule: gn Wally CelticDreamWeaver: loved your bookmark btw Lilome: nite wally AKTATTER: TAKE CARE Sandy: night Suz: evening Wally AKTATTER: AND THE SPIRAL CHAIN IS MADE BY USING ONE HALF STITCH ONLY AKTATTER: WHICH WAY THE SPIRAL TURNS IS DETERMINED BY EITHER THE FIRS OR SECOND HALF STITCH Tat Pat 1 from x.x.x.95 joined the chat 19 minutes ago AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/setstit... SEE PHOTO ON THE LEFT stitchingsharon from x.x.x.81 joined the chat 19 minutes ago Gail: k AKTATTER: TO MAKE "S" SPIRAL FROM TOP RIGHT TO BOTTOM LEFT USE FIRST HALF STITHC ONLY Riet de B-engel: k Tat Pat 1: ok AKTATTER: TO MAKE "Z" SPIRAL FROM TOP LEFT TO BOTTOM RIGHT USE SECOND HALF STITCH ONLY Lilome: k AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BUTTERFLY? Lilome: Nope Tat Pat 1: Not until I try it. paulaw: Yes Paule: yes AKTATTER: SHALL WE SAVE THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN ORNAMENT COVER FOR NEXT WEEK? Cynthia: I think I can do it.... AKTATTER: OR SHALL WE GO ON? Paule: after anteena and small split ring Tat Pat 1: Next week. Paule: then what? CelticDreamWeaver: It looks like it is time for class to end paulaw: has anyone made this yet? J looks different in the diagram than in the picture of the finished butterfly AKTATTER: THEN THE LARGE SPLIT RING C PAULE AKTATTER: YOU EXIT THAT RING TO CHAIN D ON THE BOTTOM RIGHT Paule: and then? Lilome: next weeks fine with me AKTATTER: THAT JOINS TO A PICOT ON RING C THEN CHAIN CONTINUES IN THE BIG LOOP AROUND Greengal: Off to work will read log and have heaps of questions next week Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 16 minutes ago AKTATTER: THE LONG CHAIN JOINS TO THE UPPER PICOT ON THE SPLIT RING C Tat Pat 1: Have to go. Goodnight all. Suz: . AKTATTER: THEN THROW OFF THE HEART RING Gail: Next week is good AKTATTER: CLOSE UP THE RING AND CHAIN UP THE SIDE OF THE HEART RING WITH THE LONG CHAIN CelticDreamWeaver: How come I don't see Greengal on the list of class participates? Cynthia: J and U are missing their picots? CelticDreamWeaver: and who is she? AKTATTER: NOTE THE DECORATIVE PICOTS ON THE CHAIN ARE DIFFERENT SIZES Cynthia: it only shows 12 and there are a few more of us than that AKTATTER: CLICK THE LITTLE BOX ON THE TOP RIGHT paulaw: J and U look larger in the finished project J AKTATTER: OR CLICK VISITOR LIST CelticDreamWeaver: thanks for telling me Cynthia AKTATTER: YES THEY ARE!! BE SUJRE TO MARK THE DIAGRAM Cynthia: I wondered where I went for awhile.... AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? Cynthia: after my computer did odd things it scared me that this was doing them too..... AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE LOOKING FORWARD TO THE ORNAMENT COVER WE GOT PHOTOS TODAY Paule: You were all there Cynthia! Lilome: Thanks Georgia for a great class AKTATTER: http://marty-tatsall.blogspot.com/2... photo AKTATTER: http://marty-tatsall.blogspot.com/2... Lilome: I'm off to have lunch and start the butterfly AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE HOW STUNNING THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN CAN BE IN TWO COLORS AKTATTER: NIGHT OMAR Cynthia: thanks Paule....the other computer is now in the shop... AKTATTER: OTHER PAGES TO REVIEW FOR NEXT WEEK AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/P... Riet de B-engel: i like the lock stitch chains CelticDreamWeaver: Is Liome from Australia? AKTATTER: http://www.janeeborall.freeservers.... Sandy from x.x.x.19 joined the chat 12 minutes ago AKTATTER: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/loc... Katie V: Thanks, AK! Beautiful patterns from Marlene! AKTATTER: WB BACK SANDY Lilome: yes i am CelticDreamWeaver: I guess I will go and finish the dishes Lilome: en't gone yet just looking at Marty's work AKTATTER: YES THEY ARE GREAT Riet de B-engel: I have some patterns with the lock stitch chain Sandy: don' CelticDreamWeaver: dinner is late these days since my husband now works 12 hour shifts...makes for late dinners Lilome: bye now all Sandy: Don't know what happened! AKTATTER: THAT ORNAMENT #5 REALLY SHOWS OFF THE LOCK STITHC CHAIN Sandy: Love the patterns! Great lesson. AKTATTER: CAN YOU SHARE SOME WITH US RIET? AKTATTER: BYE OMAR Cynthia: if you don't key in occasionally you can get bounced Suz: . Cynthia: Bye Omar AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS TO MARTY FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US Sandy: Thank you! Can't wait to give these a try! Riet de B-engel: Yes I think I can do It is the pattern of the tatdays last year Do you have the CD AKTATTER: THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO HAS HELPED WITH THE CLASSES TOO Paule: That ornament should a splendid Christmas ball... Suz: It is always nice with others share to help us learn! AKTATTER: YES I THINK SO RIET BUT IS IT OK TO USE THE ONES FROM THE CD? Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 8 minutes ago AKTATTER: YES YOU ARE RIGHT Cynthia: I think the Lock Chain ornament cover would look good in black and variagated...kind of stained glass look... AKTATTER: LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? AKTATTER: THE LOG WILL POST IN A FEW MINUTES Riet de B-engel: I think so Just a chain or 1 ornament AKTATTER: OH YES CYN STUNNING IDEA Cynthia: thank you Georgia. Riet de B-engel: Look whitch one you like Katie V: Thanks again, everyone! AKTATTER: OK I WILL LOOK RIET AKTATTER: THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR STOPPING BY Sandy: Thank you! Off to finish dinner. AKTATTER: THIS WAS A REALLY GOOD WORK OUT TONIGHT Cynthia: bye and peace everyone Suz: Thanks for the lesson! AKTATTER: TAKE CARE ALL GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING alanirwin: thanks! Gail: nite all Riet de B-engel: Thanks for the lesson maybe see you next week Gail: Thanks georgia alanirwin: and goodnight paulaw: Thank you -hope to be off Tatting Disability soon! (Rotator Cuff Surgery) Paule: My head is buzzing... good night everyone AKTATTER from x.x.x.125 left the chat 6 minutes ago Paule: I'll go print out all the windows I have opened... Sherong: Nite all Created at Chatzy.com