march 15 2010
links used in class
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/emmyliebert/emmyliebert3640rpt.jpg
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/emmyliebert2corners.html
http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=87&subpageid=302674&ck=   martha ess
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/ingeregg.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/eggphotos.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/tmcgegg.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/egg/joanthomaseggpattern.pdf
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/EBsmall.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblocktategg.pdf
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/baileyegg.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/perry.html
http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2010/03/rad-12.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/rperrycelticangels.pdf
hhttp://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.com/2010/03/lucky-penny.html
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/books/manning/pg46right.jpg
http://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.com/2010/01/mignonette-fever.html

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AKTATTER: be right back
picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 7 hours ago
picotsnkeys: Hi Georgia!
AKTATTER: hi
picotsnkeys: how are you?
AKTATTER: doing great daffodils and crocus peeking out already
picotsnkeys: it's warm here today. I'm not wearing my heavy fleece! Whew!
AKTATTER: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2010/03/rad-12....
picotsnkeys: I have a needle tatting question.
picotsnkeys: Anne is so close! And looking wonderful!
AKTATTER: now she says it is too big to use o nher sofa!
Elipand from x.x.x.234 joined the chat 7 hours ago
AKTATTER: do you have any quesitons for me today?
Elipand: hi all
AKTATTER: welcome Elaine
picotsnkeys: Hi Elipand.
Elipand: thanks
picotsnkeys: Yes, I was wondering about a good resource for celtic style tatting with needles.
AKTATTER: hmmmm Mel I think you are looking at it sideways
AKTATTER: it doesn'ty matter whether you use the shuttle or the needle
AKTATTER: just tat the pattern using your methos
AKTATTER: now for patterns there are a couple of good books out there
AKTATTER: and several patterns posted online too
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/perry.htm...
picotsnkeys: good point. I'll keep that in mind. I have one book that discusses using needles, but was a bit confusing to me. I'll study it some more.
AKTATTER: also Ruth's Celtic Tatting - A Design Journey on an Ancient Theme
AKTATTER: which book is it?
Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Cynthia: Hi everyone...
picotsnkeys: Hi Cynthia!
picotsnkeys: Pretty picture on your blog! I also agree with your daughter on size. :)
AKTATTER: and here's an easy weaver celtic egg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/baile...
AKTATTER: welcome
AKTATTER: cynthia
Cynthia: Thanks my learning curve with blogs is still steep...lol Beth loves the earrings
picotsnkeys: The book I was looking at is Ruth Perry's Celtic Tatting. Knots & Patterns. The butterfly design
Cynthia: ooohhh will be nice...
picotsnkeys: brb
picotsnkeys: tea is made now!
picotsnkeys: What are you tatting now, Elaine?
Cynthia: Grorgia do you know a Patricia from Muskogee OK?
AKTATTER: here's another easy one Mel http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/rperryceltic...
AKTATTER: hmm let me look
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Cynthia: She is probably not on the list unless from long ago. She will be with Doug and I going to Hector
Clau: hi all girls! how are you?
picotsnkeys: Hi Claudia
picotsnkeys: oops Clau
Cynthia: Hi I'm doing fine...the crocuses have faded in central OK but the daffodil leaves are up
AKTATTER: hmm so many Patricias in 2009 and 2010 already but did listed as OK but some without states too
AKTATTER: claudia welcome
AKTATTER: ok great well get her signed up for class too!
AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions today?
Cynthia: We didn't tell her we were going to stop and see you. Her schedule doens't work for that...unfortunately...:(
Elipand: k
Clau: .
picotsnkeys: I love the earrings Georgia. I'm printing it out now to try it later!
GinaS from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 6 hours ago
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Cynthia: Hi Gina
Winkerbill: hi everyone~
AKTATTER: great
Cynthia: Hi Wink
GinaS: Hi everyone
picotsnkeys: Hi Gina and Steph
Clau: hi gina , steph
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: I can't find the Celtic Tatting KNot and Patterns book just the Celtic journey but if you want toscan the butterfly and send I will help you work it out mel
Cynthia: Will there be more patterns to print out,
AKTATTER: welcomeSteph and Gina
Winkerbill: brb - got to go get my tatting.
AKTATTER: did you get the liebert patterns?
Clau: yes
AKTATTER: and we need to look at Martha's page again
Cynthia: Georgia...I really don't like this keyboarde...want to go to my computer--no printer. Yes to the Liebert patterns
picotsnkeys: thank you. I'll try the butterfly again up to the problem point, then photo and send it to you.
Cynthia: I can look just not print from mine.
Elipand: k
Cynthia: I may get booted...switching computers
picotsnkeys: Martha's page???
Elipand: k
Clau: internet is slow today or nobody is writing?
Winkerbill: 'm back
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GinaS: .
mjb: Hello everybody
AKTATTER: seems slow as molasses ona winter day to be Claudia but I am spoiled now since I have wireless :)
AKTATTER: welcome Jenny Terri and MaryJane
BahmaTerri: Hi Everyone, Terri Loren aka BahmaTerri@yahoo.com, San Diego, California USA
Raelara from x.x.x.192 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Jenny: Hi everyone I remembered the time! we do not change our clocks for two more weeks
Clau: ah.. ok
AKTATTER: if you know a tatter who would like to be here but has forgotten the time please use the invite people button at the top left on this page and invite them
Winkerbill: i wish everybody would just leave the clocks alone!
Clau: hi terry, jenny
Raelara: hi all
Raelara: I hate daylight savings time too
Elipand: I have cable and I say it is very slow too
Winkerbill: Mom loves it and wishes they'd leave it that way all year.
Elipand: k
Raelara: I don't like one any better than the other, but the constant changing is frustrating.
picotsnkeys: back...computer wanted to scan....I said "no, it's my turn to use the processor!"
Winkerbill: Georgia the Liebert book is printed in Fraktur, isn't it?
GinaS: lol
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Raelara: lol mel!
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mjb: Hello Dorcas Ann
AKTATTER: welcome Dorcas, and tks to you and MJB also
Dorcas Ann: hello
Dorcas Ann: you are welcom
mjb: Hello Georgia.,
Dorcas Ann: e
AKTATTER: yes it is Steph
Dorcas Ann: hello, everyone
BahmaTerri: ..
Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: everyone should have the Liebert patterns printed off for today
GinaS: what are liebert poatterns>
mjb: I like the pattern., but can't read it.,
AKTATTER: hey Jenni
Winkerbill: That's what I thought....been too chicken to buy the book because I can't read it.... ;-)
Cynthia: me too Steph....
Clau: i get it just here
AKTATTER: The Emmy Liebert patterns are the ones for today
GinaS: are they on the web?
AKTATTER: the photos are so great
Dorcas Ann: Mary Jane, we did her twisted picot medallion in tatting club last year
AKTATTER: gina go to the class index http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/2010index.ht... and scroll down to March 15
AKTATTER: there are the links to todays pattern
mjb: Okay
Cynthia: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/emmyliebert2... is the page...
GinaS: thank you, sorry to interrupt
AKTATTER: the two Emmy Liebert books and the two revisions were reprinted by LACIS and are available for sale in one book with terrific photos
Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Cynthia: no problem Gina it takes awhile to get the hang of this...
Raelara: love lacis!
AKTATTER: your questions are most welcome Gina
AKTATTER: this is the cover of the reprint http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/emmylieber...
Elipand: k
Cynthia: pretty...
AKTATTER: the cover of the book has me frustrated a bit
AKTATTER: it shows an edging used to frame the cover content
AKTATTER: the edging is so ols it is pre-Civil War era for us.
AKTATTER: how do I know that it is so old?
Jenny: k
Raelara: interesting edging
AKTATTER: look at how the rings are joined what do you see?
Jenny: no chains!
Cynthia: picots are sewn together?
Winkerbill: looks like a picot on each ring, sewed down or maybe just tied together.
AKTATTER: hmm look at the sides and bottom Jenny, large ring with tiny ring on top chain with 3 picots on it
AKTATTER: cyn got it
AKTATTER: the joining picots are sewn together
Cynthia: Wink too
Raelara: interesting.
AKTATTER: and what else do you notice?
AKTATTER: the rings are not rings
AKTATTER: they are what we call today, self-closing mock ring
Winkerbill: scmrs, except they probably weren't called that back then....
AKTATTER: with a scmr thrown off at the top!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Clau: wow.
BahmaTerri: so interesting
Winkerbill: that's how they got the little ring on topd of the "big ring"
AKTATTER: nothing is NEW in Tatting. We just keep reinventing the wheel in ever more pleasing designs!!!!
Elipand: k
picotsnkeys: wow
Clau: what is the year of it georgia?
Winkerbill: it amazes me to see what kind of techniques they used so long ago....I used to think WE were teh ones with all the "advanced techniques." apparetnly not.... ;-)
AKTATTER: but
Cynthia: everything that goes around comes back again....in a new "shirt"
AKTATTER: look at the flower basket in the center
Raelara: just like with fashion
AKTATTER: real rings real chains real joins
Jean from x.x.x.203 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: welcome Jean
picotsnkeys: all this from 1920
Elipand: k
Jean: This is my first time on and I am a new, new tatter. Beginner.
picotsnkeys: or about that time frame
AKTATTER: Emmy Lieberts first book came out in 1916 and the second one in 1920
Cynthia: welcome Jean...
AKTATTER: is this Jean from Australia??
BahmaTerri: welcome Jean!
Jean: thanks, everyone
Clau: hi jean
picotsnkeys: Welcome Jean!
AKTATTER: we are just about to begin the lesson
AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN EVERYONE
Jean: I am not sure how this works
AKTATTER: MARCH 15, 2010 REGULAR TATTING CLASS AFTERNOON SESSION
Jenny: I think it is the self closing bit of SMCR that is new. I can remember joining chains back to the begiining to look like a ring when I first started tatting
Winkerbill: so the liebert book I've seen for sale actually is BOTH liebert books in one volume?
Cynthia: and the beginner class meets on Thursday---name location email addy
Clau: claudia meza, cloelo@gmail.com. argentina
Winkerbill: Stephanie W western North Carolina USA
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA aktatter@AOL.COM
Elipand: elipand,TN,elipand@gmail.com
picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA
AKTATTER: BUT SEE JENNY THE SCMR IS NOT NEW IT IS JUST A NEW NAME
Jenny: Jenny griffin northampton Uk jenny.griffin@o2.co.uk
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com
BahmaTerri: Terri Loren aka BahmaTerri@yahoo.com, San Diego, California USA
mjb: Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana USA
Raelara: Jenni Sherriff raelara at gmail dot com, San Lorenzo, CA
AKTATTER: JEAN JUST GET A COMFORTABLE SEAT AND FOLLOW ALONG
AKTATTER: ASK ANY QUESTIONS
Winkerbill: did they make scmrs the same way we do 'way back then?
Lilome from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Winkerbill: I mean with the loop and all....
GinaS: Gina Shillitani deastrega@yahoo.com Tampa, FL USA
Clau: how did they call in 1920 to the scmr?
AKTATTER: CYNTHIA IS THE VOLUNTEER FOR THE BEGINNERS CLASS ON THURSDAY
Lilome: Hi everyone
Jean: Jean AJkhalil@windstream.net, Lexington, SC
AKTATTER: EARLY TATTER SOMETIMES TATTED ONLY RINGS
Cynthia: hi Lilome
AKTATTER: OTHER TATTERS TATTEDONLY CHAINS
Dorcas Ann: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN USA
AKTATTER: THOSE WHO TATTED ONLY CHAINS COULD FOLD THE CHAINSBACK AND JOIN TO THEM
Jenny: but joining a chain back to it's begiining is not done in quite the same way as SMCR. You have to hunt around for a space to put the hook in!
AKTATTER: AS WE DO THE SCMR TODAY AND THUS FORMED RINGS
AKTATTER: THE CORE THREAD WAS PULLED OUT AND THE SHUTTLE SLIPPED THROUGH
Raelara: essentially, it is a drop picot that they are joining to
Clau: as an inward picot?
Winkerbill: so if you have an 'elderly' pattern that just says "mock ring" you do the SCMR....?
AKTATTER: OR THE CROCHET HOOK WAS SLIPPED INTO THE CORE AND A SHUTLE LOCK JOIN WAS MADE TPO ANCHOR THE RING
AKTATTER: INWARD FACING PICOT = DOWN PICOT
AKTATTER: INDEED YOU COULD STEPH
AKTATTER: OK YOU NEED THE LIEBERT PATTERNS UP ON THE SCREEN OR PRINTED OUT
Cynthia: I like the concept elderly pattern....better than old fashioned....
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/emmyliebert2...
BahmaTerri: ..
AKTATTER: CLICK THE LINK JEAN IT TAKES YOU TOT HE LESSON PAGE
Jean: I come back for the beginner class. Bye.
AKTATTER: THERE ARE 2 PAGES FROM EMMY'S BOOK
Cynthia: got it.
AKTATTER: A DETAIL OF ONE CORNER
AKTATTER: AND A DIAGRAM
Lilome: k
Cynthia: Jean you can stay...
AKTATTER: HANG IN HERE JEAN JUST GET COMFORTABLE WITH THE ROOM THERE IS NO TEST AFTER CLASS :)
GinaS: I'm a beginner too Jean, I learn stuff here too though
AKTATTER: OK PLEASE LOOK AT PATTERN 42 THE HANKERCHIEF CORNER IN THREE ROWS
BahmaTerri: Jean, you learn a lot just by being here. enjoy the class - stay.
Raelara: Yeah, Jean, just sit back and follow the conversationthe best you can
Cynthia: and it takes a bit to even understand what we are talking about...I was lost at first too...and I;d been tatting 20 years....
AKTATTER: WITH THE LINE OF MIGNONETTE TATTING IN TE MIDDLE
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: AND HEY JEAN EVEN i GET LOSWT WHEN I'M TEACHING !
Clau: k
Raelara: Lovely
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: WELCOME LILOME i DIDN'T SEE YOU!
Lilome: Hi Georgi
AKTATTER: BE SURE TO TYPE K ONCE IN A WHILE OSO THE COMPUTER KNOWS YOU ARE STILL READING
Lilome: ok
AKTATTER: THE EDING 42 DOES NOT LOOK HARD
Cynthia: Lilome did you sign in and I mised it?
picotsnkeys: k
AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE DETAIL OF THE CORNER
Lilome: Should i sign in
Raelara: no, it doesn't
mjb: k
Cynthia: yes please...
AKTATTER: SURE PLEASE SO LIL
AKTATTER: NOTE THE TWO INNER RINGS RIGHT ON THE CORNER
AKTATTER: THEY ARE JOINED BY 2 PICOTS INSTEAD OF JUST ONE PICOT
AKTATTER: AND NOTE ALSO
Marie Smith from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Cynthia: hi Marie
AKTATTER: WHEN THE MIGNONETTE RING JOINS TO THE CORNER RINGS
Lilome: Omar Bentley omeb@internode.on.net
Marie Smith: Hi Cynthia
Raelara: that's an interesting way to do a corner
AKTATTER: IT JOINS TO BOTH PICOTS, ONE FROM EACH SIDE AT THE SAME TIME
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIE
Lilome: k
Marie Smith: MarieSmith Anderson SC USA tattingwithmarie at yahoo
AKTATTER: INTERESTING yES! AND IT IS ONE OF THE EASIEST WAYS TO TURN A CORNER THAT EXISTS
picotsnkeys: neat trick!
Winkerbill: hi Marie!
Clau: hi marie, hi omar
Marie Smith: Thanks Georgia. How are you?
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Cynthia: sneaky trick...
Lilome: Hi Clau
AKTATTER: OK QUESTION HOW MANY ROWS IN THIS PATTERN 3 OR 4?
Marie Smith: Hey, Steph!
BahmaTerri: cool
picotsnkeys: 3
Raelara: looks like 2
Cynthia: 3 I think
Raelara: err,3
AKTATTER: WELCOME NINA, DOING JUST FINE MARIE TKS GOT LOTS OF FUNDRAISER BLOCKS BACK
Winkerbill: 3, i think
Lilome: 3
Clau: 3?
mjb: 3
Raelara: finger hit the wrong key
nstitcher: hi sorry I'm late.. just realized the clock I was looking at hadn't been set ahead yet
Marie Smith: I need to finish mine, too!
AKTATTER: OK A LITTLE HESITATION, BUT i DECIDED IT HAD TO BE 3 ROWS
AKTATTER: OK LOOK NOW AT THE DIAGRAM
Lilome: k
nstitcher: Nina Richardson denver co nstitcher@gmail.com, myneedlenews@gmail.com shuttle mostly
AKTATTER: THE INNER ROW IS RED
AKTATTER: THE OUTER ROW IS BLUE
AKTATTER: AND THE MIGNONETTE ROW IS GREEN
Cynthia: red green blue= 3 I think
AKTATTER: WHICH ROW SHOULD BE TATTED FIRST?
Lilome: yep
mjb: red
Lilome: outer
Raelara: red
Marie Smith: I love mignonette. The little shuttle bags I did for Tat Days were mignonette.
Lilome: ?
AKTATTER: RIGHT!!!!!! THE RED INNER ROW
Winkerbill: I'd do it differently,k but if I did it the way the diagram shows, I'd do the outwer row first, I think....
Lilome: Oh
Cynthia: red so I could hook it to the cloth as I went with a sneaky little picot
Winkerbill: then again, i hate joining right to teh cloth....
Cynthia: or picot like thing...
Dorcas Ann: I would do the blue
AKTATTER: OK EXCEPTING THAT YOU CAN WORK IT AS YOU CHOOSE
Winkerbill: ;-)
Raelara: I think this is one you tat up and then sew on later
Jenny: where is the diagram
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: HOW LONG WOULD THE BLUE ROW HAVE TO BE IF IT WERE TATTED FIRST YOU WOULD BE GUESSING
picotsnkeys: k
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/emmyliebert2...
Raelara: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/emmylieber...
Cynthia: that would work I just hate doing them that way
AKTATTER: OK IF THE RED ROW IS FIRST THEN WHICH ROW IS SECOND?
Cynthia: green then blue?
Winkerbill: hmmm...yeah, you'd have to guess on teh outer row if you did it first....
mjb: green
Clau: i think green
Lilome: Would you attach it to the cloth before yoy do the 2nd and 3rd
Cynthia: tilt
AKTATTER: THE MIGNONETTE JOINS TO THE BARE THREAD OF THE BLUE RINGS SO IT CAN'T BE SECOND
Raelara: I probably would Lil
Winkerbill: hehehehe.... I think I'm gonna stick with blue here. ;-)
AKTATTER: YES LIL YOU ABSOLUTEL WILL HAVE TO ATTACH THE RED ROW FIRST
BahmaTerri: blue then green and attach as you go
Cynthia: the blue would haveto be n next...
Dorcas Ann: I was confused; I would tat the row next to the cloth and sew it on and then tat the rest
AKTATTER: OK SO 1. RED 2. IS BLUE 3. GREEN
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: RIGHT DORCAS
Winkerbill: that's what I'd probably do differently - I'd do ring/bare thread space for the middle row, then do the big ring/little ring for the outer row
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: THERE WILL BE SAME NUMBER OF RED RINGS AND BBLUE RINGS + 4 CORNER RINGS IN BLUE
AKTATTER: FOR JUST A SIMPLE PATTERN ISN'T IT?
Clau: maybe red could be 2nd if , instead of bare thread, we tat a chain
AKTATTER: OK THE GREEN MIGNONETTE RINGS JOIN TO THE CENTER PICOT OF THE RED RINGS
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Lilome: yes
Clau: sorry, green could be second..
AKTATTER: RW AND THEN THE GREEN RINGS JOIN TO THE BARE THREAD SPACE OF THE BLUE RINGS
Marie Smith: Green was tatted last in this one
AKTATTER: AWKWARD I THINK BUT SO IT IS
AKTATTER: NOW WE MENTIONED HOW TO THE TURN THE CORNER WITH THE RED RINGS
Lilome: k
Cynthia: lots of ways with variations...
AKTATTER: THE MIGNONETTE RING ENHANCES THE CORNER
BahmaTerri: I love that we have so many options and variations of tatting
AKTATTER: BY JOINING TTWO GREEN RINGS TOGETHER
AKTATTER: TWO TIMES AT THE CORNER
Raelara: you would almost have to tat the green and blue rings at the same time.
Elipand: k
Raelara: Do a few blue, then join with green
Raelara: it would make counting how many you need easier
AKTATTER: THE PATTERN CALLS FOR THE GREEN RINGS TO BE 1 DS JOIN 1 DS
Lilome: k
picotsnkeys: k
AKTATTER: BUT I WOULD MAKE IT r 2 + 2
mjb: k
Raelara: even 2+2 is tough to close
AKTATTER: YES IT IS
AKTATTER: OK QUESITONS ON THIS PATTERN?
Cynthia: could you do a mignonette instead? with 2+2?
Clau: too small
Marie Smith: You could use 3 shuttles and do them all as you go around the handkerchief. Then no counting
Lilome: Yes Marie
Lilome: I think I would do that
Cynthia: ooohhh Marie you are sneaky....I have enough trouble with 2 getting tangled!
Raelara: you would still have to figure out how to space and join the red rings to the handkerchief
BahmaTerri: hmmm, I'm probably get lost with 3 shuttles ;)
nstitcher: .
AKTATTER: RIGHT IT IS ALL RINGS THO jENNI SO JUST ONE SHUTTLE WILL DO THE JOB LOL
Lilome: I think I would Do the redall the way and then the Blue and then join all with the green
AKTATTER: MARIE MARIE NOW YOU ARE SHOWING OFF WITH 3 SHUTTLES CONFESS!!! Lol
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE SECOND PATTERN
AKTATTER: IT IS HANKY ENDGING 26
Raelara: My thought with 2 shuttles for the 2nd and 3rd rows was just that I fearI would get lost in the counting
Cynthia: just not tie off the blue incase you need a couple more? Omar...
Lilome: yes
AKTATTER: OK DOES THIS LOOK HARD?
Elipand: k
GinaS: .
AKTATTER: JUST RINGS AGAIN
Lilome: Doesn't look too hard
Clau: the corner looks hard for me
AKTATTER: BUT LOOK AT THE TWO CORNERS
Lilome: but probably is
AKTATTER: SAME PATTERN FOR BOTH CORNER
Cynthia: good I now follow your idea better. My brain is a bit slow today...
AKTATTER: YOU WOULD MAKE THIS INTO A SEPARATE MEDALLION BY PUTTING IT IN ALL 4 CORNERS TOO
Cynthia: just refersed....
Cynthia: reversed...typing bad and forget to hit send
AKTATTER: THE CORNER HAS 3 RINGS JOINED TOGETHER AT THE SIDES
Lilome: k
Raelara: it reminds me of Mark's half closed rings ... only not half closed
AKTATTER: THE PATTERN IS ON THE PAGE
AKTATTER: LARGE r 4 JOIN 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 4 CLOSE RING RW
AKTATTER: REPEAT RING
AKTATTER: AND REPEAT THAT TO THE CORNER
AKTATTER: AT THE CORNER
AKTATTER: TAT THE OUTER LARGE RING
picotsnkeys: is the round medallion used on the hankerchief?
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: DNRW S NOT REVERSE WORK
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AKTATTER: NO IT WAS ON THE PAGE ABOVE AND I COULDN'T CUT IT OUT EASILY
AKTATTER: I HAVE THE PATTERN FOR IT TOO IF YOU WANT IT
picotsnkeys: ah.... thanks
Cynthia: yes please....
AKTATTER: ONE TAT OUTER RING DNRW TAT CORNER RINGS WITH THE EXTRA JOIN
picotsnkeys: Hi Andrea
Elipand: k
Clau: i want it too g!
Andrea: Hi all :)
AKTATTER: RW TAT INNER RING JOINING IT TO THE PREVIOUS INNRE RING
Lilome: k
BahmaTerri: on hankie. do you tat entire outside edge then add the inner corner piece?
AKTATTER: RW TAT NEXT LARGE RING JOINING IT TO THE CORNER OUTER RING
AKTATTER: THEN BEGIN THE PATTERN GAIN
Clau: hi andrea
Cynthia: Georgia I think you need to just post that...
Marie Smith: I love the motif. It has a tiny cluny leaf
AKTATTER: I WOULD TAT INNER FIRST AND JOIN THE OUTER EDGING TO IT PERSOANNLY
AKTATTER: POST WHICH CYN?
Lilome: k
BahmaTerri: are mignonettes done last?
Cynthia: the round pattern with the clunys upper right --no 26 I think
AKTATTER: AND THE CENTER OF THE SQUARE IS FILLED WITH MIGNONETTE
AKTATTER: OK SURE IT IS #25 WILL SO IT WHEN FINISHED THIS ONE
Raelara: not a cluny Marie, it's a half-closed ring
Clau: is it done at last?
Marie Smith: No it is not a cluny, is it? It is a half closed ring
Raelara: looks like a josephine ring, in fact
Cynthia: duh we all assumed the wrong thing on that one...silly us...lol
AKTATTER: THE MIGNONETTE COULD BE DONE FIRAT BUT IT WOULD BE FLOPPY AND HARD TO HANDLE
Marie Smith: Thanks, Jenni!
mjb: k
AKTATTER: THERE IS ONE IMPORTANT ASPECT OF THS ALL RING PATTERN
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: TEH BARE THREAD SPACE BETWEEN THE LARGE RINGS NEEDS TO BE VERY EVEN
Cynthia: they didn't use RODS did they?
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THE SQUARE?
Cynthia: oops I was looking at 25...sorry
Clau: what is rods?
Raelara: picot gauge time
AKTATTER: LET ME OOK WITH THE MAGNIFIER CYN
Cynthia: rods=reverse order double stitches
AKTATTER: FROM WHAT I CAN MAKE OUT, NO
Lilome: k
Clau: where can we start the mignonette in the square g?
AKTATTER: THE INNER RINGS WOULD BE "BACKSIDE UP" AND THE OUTER RINGS
AKTATTER: "FRONTSIDE" UP
Clau: ok cynthia
AKTATTER: BUT WORKING THE INNER RINGS USING THE RODS
Winkerbill: did they do reverse order stitches back then?
AKTATTER: REVERSE OR DER OF HALF STITCHES WOUL DMAKE IT LOOK BETTER NO DOUBT
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: STEPH BACK THEN THEY DIDN'T EVEN AGREE ON WHICH HALF STITCH CAM FIRST
AKTATTER: REMEMBER MLLE RIEGOS EARLY WORKS HAVE THE PICOT BETWEEN
Cynthia: we still don't...lol
AKTATTER: FIRST AND SECOND HALF STITCH LIKE JANS DOES TODAY
Lilome: k
Winkerbill: hehehehe....yeah, I discovered that....when I was taught, it was by somebody who learned from her mother....and I learned the DS 'reverse" order....
AKTATTER: INSTEAD OF BETWEEN SECOND ND FIRST HALF STITFH AS MAOS OF US DO TODAY
Winkerbill: took me a LONG time to get used to doing it the 'other' way.
Clau: where can we start the mignonette in the square g?
picotsnkeys: when we remember which side is up....lol
AKTATTER: OK PATTERN #25 ROUND "STAR" WHICH REALLTY IS NOW A STAR BECCAUSE IT DOESN'T HAVE 5 POINTS BUT WHO IS COUNTING?
Cynthia: we are creatures of habit aren't we...
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: START AT AN INNER COURNER
Winkerbill: heehe...that's partly why front/back tatting blew my mind at first....kept confusing myself....
AKTATTER: START #25
BahmaTerri: ..
Cynthia: Clau I'd start along the outer part but that is open for other ideas....I'd probably try a couple different starts and see which one I leded best
AKTATTER: 6 LARGE PICOT 6 CLR RW
AKTATTER: LEAVE BARE THREAD SPACE (BTS)
Clau: thanks g, cynthia
Lilome: k
Cynthia: Georgia Clau wants to know where to start the mignonettes in the corner...
Cynthia: oops I missed your answer AK sorry
AKTATTER: LARGER RING 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 CLOSE RING
nstitcher: .
Lilome: k
Clau: thnks cyn
Elipand: k
Raelara: i think I would do the ring edging on the inset first, then do the mignionettes, then the outer edging
Jenny: k
Winkerbill: k
Dorcas Ann: in the corner, what is that thread that is going between the two rows?
AKTATTER: RW JOSEPHINE RING 1 (SECOND HALF STITCH) X 8 CLR RING GENTLY
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: RW REPEAT LARGE RING RW
Cynthia: just a bare threadspace I think
Lilome: Are the josephines only half closed?
AKTATTER: R 6 + (JOIN TO THE LARGE PICOT) 6 CLR RING RW
AKTATTER: YES JUST HALF CLOSED JOSEPHINE KNOT
AKTATTER: REPEAT FROM LARGER RING AROUND FOR 6 INNER RINGS TOTAL
AKTATTER: OK DORCAS? THREAD IN THE SQUARE HANKY CORNER?
Lilome: This would probably be an easier one
Dorcas Ann: is that two seperate rows instead of reversing?
AKTATTER: YES IT IS AN EASY ONE AND OWRKS UP FAST
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Susanne/Dantatter from x.x.x.161 joined the chat 5 hours ago
Lilome: I Susanne
Winkerbill: hi Susanne
Lilome: Hi
Susanne/Dantatter: Good evening everyone
Cynthia: no 1 row with the reverse rings and a simple bare thread between...I think
picotsnkeys: k
AKTATTER: THE MIGNONETTE MOVES FROM THE JOIN AT THE CENTER PICOT OF AN INNER RING TO THE NEXT ACROSS ONE SIDE TURNS AND GOE BACK THE OPPPOSITE DIRECTION I BELIEVE
Marie Smith: I have found that depending on the twist of the thread, your thread will get tighter or more loose in a JR
Winkerbill: that's what it looks like to me, too, Cynthia
Jenny: Hi Susanne
Raelara: I may just have to find a nice square of linen and try this. It would look best with a handkerchief with a buttonhole stitch hem
Susanne/Dantatter: I guess I am late because the clocks have changed, sorry
AKTATTER: WELCOME SUSANNE GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE
Lilome: k
Susanne/Dantatter: thank you
AKTATTER: i THINK IT WORKS OUT IN A SERPENTINE FASHION DORCAS WHAT DO YOU THINK?
Marie Smith: So sometimes I do the 1st half in a JR so it will not untwist the thread
Clau: k
AKTATTER: YES I BEGIN MY JK ALSO WITH 1 DS FOLLOWED BY THE NUMBER OF 2ND HALF STITCHES NEED
Cynthia: good idea Marie...and then it stays crisper...
AKTATTER: I USE TO END WITH A FULL DS BUT HAVE SINCE STOPPED JUST END WITH THE HALF STITCH
BahmaTerri: ..
Winkerbill: good idea. i don't do many JRs, so that'll help.
Lilome: I use Janes versoin of JR
Cynthia: I start and end with a ds so it is easier to close
AKTATTER: JK ARE VERY DECORATIVE
Dorcas Ann: I'm not that far along in my thinking yet
picotsnkeys: k
AKTATTER: OK QUESTIONS ON THESE 3 PATTERNS BY EMMY LIEBERT?
Raelara: I'm having a hard time following the thread track on that mignionette
Elipand: what JK and JR!
Winkerbill: if you start (and end) the JR with a DS instead of a half stitch, do you reduce the number of half stitches in the JR?
AKTATTER: I UNDERSTAND THAT JENNI
Clau: me too jenny
Lilome: lol
Lilome: JK
AKTATTER: JK = JR = JOSEPHINE KNOT OR RING
Cynthia: I don't but it is a matter of personal preference
Raelara: just got it
Dorcas Ann: it looks like it starts at that left hand picot on the ring
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk.html
Winkerbill: starting/endign with a DS WOULD make it a lot easier to close!
Elipand: thanks, too many abbreviations
Raelara: starts in the very center of the inset edging
Raelara: goes out to the edge of the inset, joins to the last ring there and the center p of the nearest outside ring
AKTATTER: OK
Raelara: and then serpentines back
AKTATTER: LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT MARTHA ESS PAGE NEXT
Dorcas Ann: where is the starting place?
Winkerbill: i'm wondering if that "star" (#25) and edging/corner could be "engineered" so the star fits inside the corner instead of usign the mignonette....
AKTATTER: IN OUR DISCUSSION OF THE DROP, DOWN INWARD FACING PICOT
Winkerbill: guess that's a no-no, since we're studying mignonette, huh?
Marie Smith: Please give me link GA
Raelara: that would be interesting winker
Cynthia: probably Wink...
Winkerbill: <wicked grin>
AKTATTER: CORRECTION ON #25 THERE ARE A TOTAL OF 5 INNER RINGS JOINED TO 1 PICOT
Lilome: k
picotsnkeys: k
Susanne/Dantatter: k
AKTATTER: http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=87&...
AKTATTER: AT THIS TIE PLEASE SCROLL DOWN TO THE GREEN SHAMROCK
maria alcantara from x.x.x.168 joined the chat 5 hours ago
maria alcantara: hi alll...sorru I am late today
AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIA!
maria alcantara: maria alcantara famalcan@prodigy.net.mx Mexico
AKTATTER: WE ARE LLOKING http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=87&...
AKTATTER: AT THE GREEN SHAMROCK
Clau: hola maria
AKTATTER: TEH DIMPLE OF THE SHAMROCK IS FORMED BY DOING WHAT MARTHA CALLS A SET
Clau: cambio elhorario
AKTATTER: SET A OR SET B
maria alcantara: cuando?
Jenny: k
Raelara: you know, I think our homework should be for each of us to design at least one pattern with a downward picot
Clau: se adelanto una hora ayer
AKTATTER: SET A = 2X FIRS HALF STITCH
Lilome: k
AKTATTER: SET B = 2 X SECOND HALF STITCH
AKTATTER: JENNI THAT IS A GREAT IDEA!
maria alcantara: aqui todavia no
Raelara: I have been distressed with how few there are
AKTATTER: THIS SEA/SETB CONSTRUCTION ALLOWS WHAT EVER IS PLACED BETWEEN THEM
Raelara: I know my manger qualifies, if I ever get the patten figured out
AKTATTER: TO "DROP" DOWN
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: WE ARE WAITING ON THAT JENNI :)
AKTATTER: IN THIS CASE
Raelara: I know
Raelara: I did send you a prototype to look through
AKTATTER: BOTH A PORTION OF A RING AS WELL AS THE PICOT "ROLL" TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE , OR DROP DOWN
AKTATTER: YEP i GOT IT OO
Raelara: but I want to make some changes now that I have learned there are names for some of the techniques I used
AKTATTER: TOO
AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS CONCEPT OF THE DROP PICOT?
Lilome: I 've tried this pattern
Lilome: But sisn't quite understand what the two sets were
AKTATTER: THE TWO SETS ARE A PAIR OF HALF STITCHES
BahmaTerri: great instructions for drop picot. thanks
Clau: not now
Lilome: Just enough time to get one done before tomorrow
AKTATTER: SET A = TWO FIRST HALF STITCHES
AKTATTER: SET B= TWO SECOND HALF STITCHES
Lilome: That is great
AKTATTER: THIS IS ALSO A DESIGN AND CONSTRUCIOTN TOOL
Lilome: yes
AKTATTER: AS YOU CAN CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF A LINE OR CURVE THS THIS
AKTATTER: YES MANY THANKS TO MARTHA AND EMMY FOR SHARING THEIR WORK
nstitcher from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 5 hours ago
Winkerbill: i'd like to go back and find that old collar pattern....they didn't use drop picots or make a picot out of the core thread, you just twisted the picot around to where you wanted it and joined that way....I think it would look neater if I used a drop picot instead of just manhandling the chain.
AKTATTER: YES WE DID A LOT OF AWKWARD THINGS BACK THEN
Raelara: probably would
AKTATTER: ONE MORE THING
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/books/manning/pg4...
maria alcantara: gwhat time you hsve now, please?
AKTATTER: 4:10 et (NEW YORK TIME)
AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE BOTTOM HANKY CORNER
mjb: I have 4:11
AKTATTER: THAT IS ALL RINGS
Lilome: 7:10 Tuesday am
Raelara: lots of cut and tie there
Winkerbill: Where ARE you Lilome?
Raelara: or a whole lot of split rings
AKTATTER: WELL NOT NECESSAILY JENNI
Lilome: Australia!!!
Clau: 17 hs here maria
AKTATTER: A LINE OF RINGS WITH BARE THREAD SPACE BETWEEN THEM
Winkerbill: is this one of those patterns where they carried the thread behind the rings and kept tatting?
maria alcantara: sorry in Mexico we have not change time untill april 
4,.......
AKTATTER: ARE CURVED INTO A CIRCLE
Winkerbill: Wow....I'm impressed! You're AWAKE at 7 in the morning!!!
AKTATTER: BY USING ONE RING TO JOIN TO THE BARE THREAD SPACE BETWEEN THE LINE OF RINGS
Lilome: I put the alarm on
AKTATTER: WOW MARIA! EARLY BIRD
Raelara: ah, Isee it now
Cynthia: and able to follow the conversation! Congrats Omar....
Lilome: lol
AKTATTER: NOW THE NEXT TO LAST RING WHICH WOULOD BE IN THE CIRCLE
AKTATTER: YOU COULD MEASURE OUT THE BARE THRAD SPACE THROW OFF THE INNER RING JOINING TO AL LTHE PREIVOUS RINGS
Jenny: Bye everybody thanks for the class Georgia
AKTATTER: BACK TO THE BRAE THREAD SPACE AND SET A DS AND MOVE ON TO THE NEXT RING IN THE LINE OF RING
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AKTATTER: JOIN TO THE FIRST RIN G IN THE LINE OF RINGS
AKTATTER: BYE JENNY
Cynthia: I'll try to print off the others before tonight...
AKTATTER: MOVE THE NEXT RING ONTO THE CLOTH, ETC AND CONTINUE WITH THE "U" LINE OF RINGS NO CUT AND TIE
AKTATTER: JUST FOOD FOR THOUGHT
AKTATTER: WELCOME JANE
AKTATTER: OK THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS?
BahmaTerri: these rings are great on crazy quilts because you can make them circular or meander along a seam for pretty flower edge, etc.
Winkerbill: this is a pretty border, but something in my mind is screaming "pain in the derriere to press this!!!"
Raelara: I am afraid I would have to see it diagrammed
Winkerbill: Guess that would be one of those things I'd make, carry around for "show," but never use....
AKTATTER: THIS INFO REPEATS AT 8:30pm ET (NEW yORK TIME) WITH NEEDLE TATING 1/2 HOUR PRIOR
AKTATTER: IMAGINE IT IN MUJLTICOLOR THREAD
Elipand: it is time for me to say bye
Winkerbill: ooh, that's a good idea Terri! Wouldn't that be pretty on a quilt block!!!
BahmaTerri: with so many rings joined together in a circle, they look like they would be floppy
picotsnkeys: I'd like to see a diagram also....lol
Clau: thanks georgia for the class
maria alcantara: i will be back tonight G.....
AKTATTER: BTW EVERY ORDER THIS MONTH GETS 10 YDS EACH OF 2 COLORS OF LIZBETH THREAD
Susanne/Dantatter: Thanks AK
AKTATTER: I HOPE YOU AL LREAD TEH NOTICE ABOUT THE FUNDRAISER FOR THE CLASS
Winkerbill: you'd have to press and starch the edging....to keep it from being floppy
Raelara: still have picot gauges G?
GinaS: I got my order today, thankis Georgia!!!
Lilome: Thanks Georgia
Lilome: wa great'
Raelara: might still be floppy, even with starch,
AKTATTER: WE RECEIVED ENOUGH DONATIONS TO KEEP THE CLASS O NTHE AIR FOR THE ENTIR YEAR!
BahmaTerri: Thanks Georgia! Bye everyone.
AKTATTER: GREA gINA
Lilome: I can't come back tonight going out for the day
maria alcantara: clau nos vemos! estoy fuera de todo...
AKTATTER: THERE ARE ONLY 2 SETS OF GAUGES LEFT THEY SOLD OUT QUICLY AGAIN
Lilome: Next week I hope to be here
Clau: chau maria.. nos vemos
Raelara: how much?
AKTATTER: I WANT TO THANK EVERYONE WHO MADE THIS POSSIBLE!!
Cynthia: Thanks Georgia. I plan to be here tonight too
mjb: that great about the money for the class
AKTATTER: GAUGES $6 PLUS POSAGE $2.3 = $8.35
AKTATTER: YES IT IS HEARTWARMNG MJB :)
Raelara: I'll have to talk to my hubby, I would love to have some
AKTATTER: OK THEN SEE YOU ALL NEXT TIME
Dorcas Ann: thank you for the lesson
Lilome: I've got the gauges and they are wonderful
Raelara: thanks G
AKTATTER: HAPPY TATTING ALL
Clau: bye all girls!!! thanks for the lesson
AKTATTER: :)
mjb: thanks Georgia
GinaS: thanks for the lesson
Susanne/Dantatter: yes next time AK
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Lilome: Thanks Bye
GinaS: bye y'all
Cynthia: defininitely the gauges are wonderful
Winkerbill: not to change the subject, but the quilt blocks....did we decide we were going to send in the $1 for sewing the blocks together when we sent in the quilt block?
Marie Smith: Fantastic class. I love you Georgia!
Winkerbill: And they need to be sent in by June 1, right?
Susanne/Dantatter: bye
picotsnkeys: thanks for the class. I'm learning lots!!! bye
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Cynthia: Yes to the date...I don't know about the fee for sewing the blocksmtogether...
nstitcher from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 5 hours ago
BahmaTerri: I didn't know about the $1 for the blocks. Thanks winkerbill.
Cynthia: Just figured out why this computer keyboard is a pain--only 1 leg is extended so it WAS wiggly
Winkerbill: wasn't sure if we decided that or not.
Cynthia: hubby
Lilome: Hi Jane
Lilome: Its Omar
BahmaTerri: will include anyway. it's worth it, I think.
Cynthia: has the new one and I get the standby that hates it printer...
Cynthia: Hi Jane E...
BahmaTerri: Winkerbill. I used this last technique on my quilt block. I'ts pretty.
Andrea: Hi Jane! The shuttle arrived on Saturday - it's beautiful! I started using it right away - thank you so much, and thank your BIL too.
Winkerbill: Did you go along all the seams with it? I was thinking that would look nice!
BahmaTerri: I used it on the seams and also wove it over/under rick-rack using long bts. make sense?
Winkerbill: ooh, that sounds lovely! I can hardly wait to see all the blocks!
Cynthia: Jane I'll email a question to you aobut the shuttles your BIL makes...I still want one
Winkerbill: Got to run - just noticed the time!
Winkerbill: Bye everyone!
BahmaTerri: it completely changes the way rick-rack loos and super easy and fast!
Winkerbill from x.x.x.218 left the chat 5 hours ago
Lilome: time to go bye everyone
Cynthia: I need to run too. Bye and nice to meet you Omar.
Cynthia: bye and Peace everyone
nstitcher: bye
Andrea from x.x.x.83 joined the chat 5 hours ago
AKTATTER from x.x.x.58 joined the chat 99 minutes ago
AKTATTER: March 15 evening session be right back
AKTATTER: k
Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 85 minutes ago
Cynthia: Hi. I'm back...lol
AKTATTER: hi
AKTATTER: got your note wil save a set of gauges foryou
Cynthia: Thank you. I have 1 block done and the other about half done. Is there a "cost" for them to be put together? Steph was asking earlier right after you left.
alanirwin from x.x.x.244 joined the chat 82 minutes ago
AKTATTER: yes Pinky is going to charge $100 to put it together forus plus some thread and maybe binding fabric
AKTATTER: welcome alan
alanirwin: hi
Cynthia: okay I'll include some put it together money in to help defray that cost
Cynthia: Hi Alan
alanirwin: Looks quiet right now
AKTATTER: yes this first half hout is devoted to needle tatting questions
Cynthia: so far it is...
alanirwin: did I get the time right for the needle class?
AKTATTER: are you a needle tatter?
AKTATTER: yes this is it
alanirwin: yes, but very new
AKTATTER: Cynthia is the volunteer for the beginners class on Thursdays
AKTATTER: what have you learned to do so far?
alanirwin: and I learned a LOT from here on Thursday!
Cynthia: I'm facinated by the reverse Riego method. No "flip" needed but it does filp for you...
alanirwin: I've been making the dove & butterfly
Cynthia: I try...to help
AKTATTER: good, so you can do the ring and chain
AKTATTER: make picots
AKTATTER: that is super news Alan
alanirwin: yes, and as I find I'm much more comfortable with the needs than the shuttle
Wally from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 78 minutes ago
Wally: Hi!
Cynthia: Hi Wally
AKTATTER: you can do lots of good work with a needle and it is easier to do beading and use fat fluffy textured and metallixc fibers that are not good onthe shuttle
alanirwin: Hi Wally
AKTATTER: wally so good to see you
AKTATTER: any good news on the package?
AKTATTER: alan did you have a question for us tonight?
Wally: They couldn't find it on the office. He said that may be they placed on a wrong bin. I have to wait for the second form to reclaim it
AKTATTER: ok
alanirwin: night right now, I was just planning on lurking
AKTATTER: that's ok
alanirwin: excuse me .. not right now
AKTATTER: have you joined Roger's needle tatting group too?
alanirwin: No, what's that?
AKTATTER: excellent group
Wally: I love Roger's group! Very nice group and they help a lot
AKTATTER: Roger is master needle tatter and has many tutorials posted no charge to join

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paule: Still cannot get a picture...BAAAAAH!
Cynthia: lots of repurposers out in tat land...lol
Cynthia: which one paule?
paule: Double picot gauge
Wally: aw... I forgot to move the video to you tube. I'll tell Kika to do it
Cynthia: let me try...brb
AKTATTER: YOU CAN'T SEE THE VIDEO?
paule: no!
Wally: I think is Ning. they don't work with all the countries. a member from my group from germany couldn't see a video in t group from a member in Sweden
Suz: did you scroll down a little?
paule: Right after Wally's explanation there is a blank space!
Suz: )-:
Cynthia: give it a minute...then the pic will come up. to see the video I thinkwe have to register
paule: BIG white void!
AKTATTER: OH MAY SO REGISTER!
AKTATTER: OK ONE MORE POINT TO TALK ABOUT TONIGHT
Cynthia: I get the pic after about a minute but not the video
AKTATTER: IN OUR STUDY OF THE DROP DOWN INWARDFACING PICOT
paule: Itried! It is in spanish! I don't speak spanish!
Wally: will transfer it to youtube in a few minutes
AKTATTER: i DON'T HAVE SOUND PAULE BUT THE PHOTOS REALLY SAY IT AL
alanirwin: I see it ... nice video
AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT MARTHA'S PAGE
AKTATTER: http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=87&...
Cynthia: neither do I... and a big THANK You to Wally....
Wally: Kika made the video without sound
AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN TO THE SHAMROCK
AKTATTER: THIS "DROP" PICOT CONSTRUCTION IS MADE WITH SETS OF HALF STITCHES
AKTATTER: SET A = 2 FIRST HALF STITCHES
CelticDreamWeaver: Are you here Stephanie?
AKTATTER: SET B = 2 SECOND HALF STITCHES
AKTATTER: STEPH IS GONE
AKTATTER: WHAT COMES INBETWEEN THE TWO SETS
CelticDreamWeaver: oh
Cynthia: just a picot?
CelticDreamWeaver: why is her name to the right of the screen?
AKTATTER: ROTATES FORWARD
AKTATTER: SHE IS IN GRAY ON MY SCREEN TO SHOW THAT SHE GOT BUMPED OUT
AKTATTER: OR DOWNWARD
CelticDreamWeaver: oh
AKTATTER: AND THIS SEGMENT ON THE SHAMROCK
AKTATTER: HAS BOTH DS AND A PICOT
AKTATTER: FACING THE OPPOSITE DIRCTION THAT THE REST OF THE RING/CHAIN
AKTATTER: THIS USE OF SET A AND SET B ALSO ALLOWS YOU TO CHANGE THE DIRCTION OF
AKTATTER: A TATTED ELEMENT, RING OR CHAIN
AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN TO THE DAISY
AKTATTER: OR LOOK AT THE INSTEP OF THE FOOT
AKTATTER: THIS IS A GREAT CONSTRUCTION AND DESIGN TOOL
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS?
AKTATTER: ONE LAST PAGE TO LOOK AT
Suz: nope
alanirwin: k
Cynthia: interesting...
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/books/manning/pg4...
AKTATTER: NOW THIS HANKY EDGE AT THE BOTTOM
AKTATTER: IS ALSO ALL TINGS
Cynthia: k
AKTATTER: RINGS
Sandy: Georgia, Mimi taught a class and we learned to use the sets like you would a shoe lace trick too.
AKTATTER: A STRING OF RINGS IS MADE
AKTATTER: THAT IS AN EXCELLENT TIP SANDY, WE SHOULD FIND A PATTERN TO ILLUSTRATE THAT!
AKTATTER: THEN ANOTHER RING IS MADE WHICH JOINS TO THE LINE OF RINGS BENDING THEM INTO A CURVE/CIRCLE
AKTATTER: THE RING LINE PROCEEDS UP TO LAY ON THE CLOTH
AKTATTER: OVER TO THE RIGHT ONE RING
Sandy: I'll look. I believe that she used a little motif from Patty Duff's book.
AKTATTER: THROWS A RING OFFCENTER TO JOIN TO THECIRCLE JUST MADE
AKTATTER: BACK ONTO THE CLOTH FOR ANOTHER RING
AKTATTER: THEN THE LINE OF RINGS STARTS OVER AGAI
paule: top or bottom picture?
AKTATTER: AN EASY PATTERN ALL RINGS BUT LOOK HOW WIDE AND FLUFFY IT LOOKS
AKTATTER: BOTTOM PAULE
AKTATTER: OK SANDY THANKS
Cynthia: are those really big picots or ??
AKTATTER: REALLLY BIIIGGGG
Cynthia: are the picots joined in a normal manner just long?
AKTATTER: NOT MEASURED DONE BY EYEBALL AND JOINED HAPHAZARDLY
AKTATTER: JOINED AS NORMAL
AKTATTER: THE CENTER RING JOINING TO THE BARE THREAD SPACE BETWEEN THE RINGS TOO
AKTATTER: JUST THOUGHT IT LOOKED NEAT
Cynthia: hmmmm I have diffiuclty joinging really long/big picots...they are so floppy
AKTATTER: EASTER COMING UP
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/baile...
jess.S: i don't understand that one at all...
AKTATTER: THE EGG?
Cynthia: is is neat...but it is a puzzler how to make it really work well...I agree Jess
jess.S: yes is it neat. i'm always interested in a "freestyle" way to do something.
jess.S: but i don't get the progression of that piece
AKTATTER: OHH WELL IT IS A U SHAPE
AKTATTER: WITH THE RING IN THE CENTER JOINING TO ALL THE OTHER OUTER RINGS
AKTATTER: HR THREE RINGS ON THE CLOTH
AKTATTER: TWO ON AND THE ONE BETWEEN THEM IS OFF THE CLOTH
AKTATTER: ANS IT EVENTUALLY JOINED TO TWO CIRCLES OF RINGS
Suz: .
AKTATTER: ITHINK THIS WOULD BE NEAT TO TRY OUT
AKTATTER: I'LL TRY TO DIAGRAM IT
Wally: .
paule: Good idea G. I'm lost too...
jess.S: ok. that's kind of what i thought. it's hard to tell from the picture
Cynthia: I think many of us may be paule
AKTATTER: EYE CANDY http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/eggphotos.ht...
Sandy: So it's all done it one pass?
AKTATTER: TRY TRACING IT WITH YOUR FINGER THAT MIGHT HELP
AKTATTER: MORE EASTER
jess.S: WOOWW!! nice eggs!
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/ingeregg.htm...
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/tmcgegg.html
Cynthia: The pics are broken on Terri's page :( but I bet we can follow her directions ;)
Suz: I don't have a picture for Terry's egg anyone else?
paule: I don't either...
AKTATTER: hmm i look at it
Sandy: None here
Sandy: Maybe it's a TIAS
Cynthia: lol
AKTATTER: try now i reloaded it
Wally: .
Sandy: Got it
Suz: It showed up when I went to print preview this time.
Cynthia: TA Da it's back....:)
Suz: It is really pretty!
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/egg/joanthom...
AKTATTER: good !
paule: Yes! That,s jus the one I began years ago!
paule: Now I'll finish it!!!
AKTATTER: and what is easter without a basket!
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/EBsmall.html
Wally: how you empty an egg to use for decoration? I have never done one before
alanirwin: I must leave - thank you very much
alanirwin: night all
AKTATTER: this is pretty in mutli color thread
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblockta...
AKTATTER: good night alan
Cynthia: Wally it is kind of easy....poke a hole in 1 end of a raw egg then a bigger hole in the other end
paule: and BLOW
Wally: got the video on youtube may be will be ready in a few minutes http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SY_1QuD-P4A
Cynthia: from the tiny hole is easiest...
AKTATTER: but we mustn't forget St Pat's DAy Wed. http://my.att.net/p/s/community.dll?ep=87&...
AKTATTER: lol
paule: TY Wally!
Cynthia: Wally thank you!
Wally: okis, will try to make it next time I make scramble eggs for breakfast. :-)
AKTATTER: ok that's all I have for tonight
paule: Or break eggs for a cake or cookies
AKTATTER: any last questions?
AKTATTER: remember beginners clas with cynthia on thursday
AKTATTER: and spanish class on the weekend with wally
Wally: saturdays at 3 pm
Cynthia: you have to cup your hands around the egg or it may break. My mom then put salt in it and let it sit a bit then shook the salt out,,,she said it would preserve it,,,,
AKTATTER: thanks all for stopping by
Cynthia: ours never smelled so I don't know if that is necessary or not,
Wally: that's cool
AKTATTER: good night and happy tatting all
Sandy: Thanks so much!
Cynthia: Thank you Georgia! and everyone else too
Wally: do i need to rinse it too?
AKTATTER: ps thanks again to all the generous tatters who helped make it possible for the online tatting class to remain onthe web for the entire year of 2010
Suz: Thanks as always for your wisdom!
AKTATTER: nighters
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Cynthia: the beginners can always use more "helpers" and I won't dump it on you...promise
Cynthia: I enjoy the beginner class it is fun and I learn something every time too!
Cynthia: bye everyone,,,,
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