»The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Mar 9 02:51:23 2010 GMT - Visible content (144 KB) Page 1 of 3 - Char 1 to 51427 - Newest entries at the bottom links used in today's class: http://bengelblog.blogspot.com http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2010/03/bare-vase.html http://www.hmh.org/ed_butterfly1.shtml http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/2010index.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypence3books.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypencebfly58eb0b4431.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabrummetnc1921jands.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabnc1921janinpicot.html http://wardmomandandy.blogspot.com/ http://www.gs.cornell.edu/dani/crafts/mock_picot.gif http://www.georgiaseitz.com/superbowl.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/myersdownwardpfan.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullerholly.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullericydelight.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullerinpinfo.pdf http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullerpicotchart.jpg AKTATTER from x.x.x.219 cleared the room 8 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.219 joined the chat 8 hours ago AKTATTER: March 8, 2010 AKTATTER from x.x.x.219 sent out an invitation 7 hours ago AKTATTER: I will return in a few minutes AnneB from x.x.x.10 joined the chat 7 hours ago AnneB: And I'll be around - unless I am attending to the making of a cup of tea... AKTATTER from x.x.x.219 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER: Hi Anne I AKTATTER: am checking for tatters needing help to get here brb AnneB: Hi Georgia! AKTATTER: Hi there. Sherry just sent in a corrected version of her pattern AKTATTER: just getting it posted brb AKTATTER: Mark just sent in a pattern too, if you can cover I will try to get it posted right now AnneB: No problem. I'm at the last motif of row 11 on my reconstruction project - um - one of them AnneB: I'll keep an eye on this place :-) Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 7 hours ago AnneB: Hi Cynthia! Cynthia: Hi Elipand from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 7 hours ago AnneB: Hi Elipand! Elipand: Hello all Cynthia: Hi Elipand skfuller from x.x.x.162 joined the chat 7 hours ago Cynthia: Hi Sue skfuller: hi Everyone Elipand: Hi AnneB: Hi Sue! skfuller: Thought I'd listen in to this first half hr skfuller: while I'm having lunch Cynthia: I'll need to check the other computer to get the patterns....so if I disappear don' Elipand: Am I late, it is stated that Georgia joined the chat 45 minutes ago! Cynthia: don't panic I'll be right back.... Cynthia: no Georgia just came a bit ago AnneB: Georgia was just early to clear the page. AnneB: And I was early just because... AKTATTER: got it done! whew Elipand: I just finished the wing of the butterfly for today, I did not have chance to do the split rings AKTATTER: last minutes changes threw off my schedule but it looks like it just us now Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 7 hours ago AKTATTER: Elaine hello ! Your tatting needles shipped today. I included two colors of the new Lizbeth thread for you to try out also. Let me know how you like them. Elipand: I have not got a reminder of the new homework from georgia this week. Elipand: Thank you.I appreciate it. Cynthia: Hi I'm going to switch to my computer from this one...I can print here but not on mine for awhile...but I have trouble reading this one. I can't get the enlarged print to work.... AKTATTER: oh well I will go send a reminder right now picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 7 hours ago AnneB: Hi Melanie! picotsnkeys: Hi Anne picotsnkeys: Hi Elipand, Cynthia, and Georgia Cynthia: be back iun a few minutes...print then go...if I can find the patterns... Elipand: Hi picotsnkeys: May I share some sad news? AnneB: sure Elipand: What happened picotsnkeys: One of the seniors at the High School took his own life this morning. Please keep all the kids and the community in prayer AKTATTER: ok got that sent and I see another message about today's lesson bbrb AnneB: Oh - no, that is too sad. picotsnkeys: We've lost kids in the too recent past. We have a network of help in place, but it still hurts Elipand: I will keep them in my prayers picotsnkeys: thank you AKTATTER: oh dera I am sorry to hear that AKTATTER: life in high school is so hard for kids any way without the loss of a friend picotsnkeys: on a better note, I'm looking forward to class today. I've been pondering drop picots. Tried Sherry's butterfly and have questions, which I'm sure will come up! AKTATTER: three more patterns have just arrived from Sue fuller brb skfuller: Sorry I was so late getting them yo you picotsnkeys: brb tea time Elipand: k AKTATTER: no problem uploading holly just now picotsnkeys: back AnneB: Anybody tatting something fun at the moment? picotsnkeys: trying Sherry picotsnkeys: Sherry's butterfly picotsnkeys: "Hopeh" picotsnkeys: sorry for the typos AnneB: it is a nice one picotsnkeys: what are you tatting, Anne? AnneB: I'm not in the butterfly mood though. Not with snow blowing aroud tha houses... picotsnkeys: Oh! brrrr AnneB: Im at the last motif of row 11 on the centre piece I'm reconstructing picotsnkeys: Oh! getting close! picotsnkeys: How big in diameter is it? AnneB: Yes :-) After row 11 it is only 3 rows left AnneB: Let me check Elipand: k skfuller: k AKTATTER: whew, ok were there any justneedle tatting questions today? I didn't mean to ignore anyone just got busy posting the new stuff just in AnneB: It is 48 when row 11 is done Elipand from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: No, nothing new here for needles Elipand: kikked out for a second picotsnkeys: Wow! 48 with three more rows to go!! picotsnkeys: That would fill a wall if you mounted it like a picture! AnneB: it should be around 56 cm (close to 23 inch) when the last 3 rows are completed. AnneB: Nice with a tape measurer telling both cm and inch. skfuller: Wow, I've never come close to making something that size skfuller: hope you show us AKTATTER: While we are enjoying the next 10 minutes of open chat, some of you might want to get started printing the new info just posted. AnneB: The way to do it is to just start and not think of the size AKTATTER: the links for today were: AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... AKTATTER: http://freepdfhosting.com/58eb0b4431.pdf AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabnc1921j... Marie Smith from x.x.x.189 joined the chat 6 hours ago AnneB: Latest photos are here: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2010/03/bare-va... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabrummetn... Gretta from x.x.x.111 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/myersdownwar... AnneB: Hi Marie and Gretta! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullerholly... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullericyde... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullerinpin... Gretta: hi picotsnkeys: k picotsnkeys: Hi Marie and Gretta. AKTATTER: Hello Marie, dear friend glad to see you back here LadyShuttleMaker from x.x.x.109 left this message 6 hours ago: hellooooooo AKTATTER: Gretta happy you made it today Angela from x.x.x.22 joined the chat 6 hours ago AnneB: Hi Angela! Gretta: me too Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago skfuller: so beautiful Anne Angela: Hi AnneB, Gretta, Jenny and Georgia. Jenny: Hi Everybody Elipand: what about the butterfly with one wing on the main page of the homework Marie Smith: Hello everyone! Marie Smith: God to be here! AnneB: Hi Jenny and Sherry! Marie Smith: I mean GOOD to be here AnneB: Thanks Sue - I'm starting to realize I might finish LOL AKTATTER: welcome Jenny AKTATTER: HI Angela LadyShuttleMaker from x.x.x.109 left this message 6 hours ago: Hi Anne! ....just printing all the wonderful info.... Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: HI sherry scroll down and click on join chat Dorcas Ann from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 6 hours ago Jenny: i@m back Dorcas Ann: Hello, everyone LadyShuttleMaker from x.x.x.109 joined the chat 6 hours ago Marie Smith: Anne, Melody, Angela, Gretta, Elipand Sue Georgia Jenny, Dorcas picotsnkeys: Hi Dorcas and Jenny Marie Smith: And Sherry! LadyShuttleMaker: Thanks Georgia!....I'm a newbie all over again! picotsnkeys: Hi Sherry! Dorcas Ann: Hi, picot and Marie and AK Jenny: Hi Sherry AnneB: Hi Hi Dorcas Elipand: k Dorcas Ann: Hi, Anne LadyShuttleMaker: Hi hi hi everybody Marie Smith: Glad you are here Sherry! AKTATTER: welcome sherry we sre just about to start AKTATTER: 2 more minutes of open chat AKTATTER: if you know tatter who may have forgotten the time, please use the invite people button at the top left of the screen and send them a message LadyShuttleMaker: Hi Marie and thank you, it is good to join in today! Marie Smith: It surely is quiet here today! Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago Marie Smith: Hi Cynthia! Cynthia: whew I made it.... picotsnkeys: Hi Cynthia....we're all looking at the links from above and/or tatting.... skfuller: Just finished the last bite of lunch AnneB: Sorry - I'm tatting on the last motif on a row of 20 motifs - and with the (row) finish line in sight... skfuller: Now I can type Cynthia: I'll go try to get the links to come up so it may show someone else in the room just me... Marie Smith: Have you made any new dragons lately, Anne? Angela: I am enjoying the sun shine and watching the snow melt. AKTATTER from x.x.x.219 sent out 5 invitations 6 hours ago AnneB: No - sorry. But one is lurking in the shadows. picotsnkeys: I'm recuperating from pulling weeds for 4 hours yesterday. skfuller: I can only see the very greay sky! AKTATTER: ok I got stuck in limbo a minute but I am back AKTATTER: does everyon have the page for Sherry Spence and the butterfly pattertn printed now? skfuller: Cold and gloomy, with a bit of snow still on the ground AnneB: If anyone want some snow I have some extra and still getting more... Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago Angela: yes, I do. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... http://freepdfhosting.com/58eb0b4431.pdf skfuller: Unusual for Colorado I miss the sunshine and it's heat picotsnkeys: Elipand sked a good question: the butterfly with one wing on the main lesson page??? AKTATTER: yes that is Sherry's pattern picotsnkeys: is that the one we're to have? AKTATTER: that is a pattern sheryy shared with the class earlier LadyShuttleMaker: The butterfly today should be HOPE...not the side profile bfly...we did that one already a few years ago AKTATTER: no it is below that Jenny: Is it in the book? AKTATTER: http://freepdfhosting.com/58eb0b4431.pdf this oe AKTATTER: one picotsnkeys: ah...must look in the archive later. Thank you! AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN LET'S GET STARTED AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Elipand: No, it is one wing, side view LadyShuttleMaker: No..this is not in the book but it is written in the same style as the ones in the book Gretta: Gretta Wilhite, Crane Hill Alabama, USA Angela: Angela Miracle, aanjel51@yahoo.com in Sunny Lupton, MI AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway, solurab @ online.no Elipand: elipand,TN,elipand@gmail.com Jenny: Jenny Griffin Northampton UK picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA AKTATTER: HEY DORCAS :) Dorcas Ann: Dorcas Newkirk Evansville, IN, USA Dntats4u@aol.com AKTATTER: WHERE'S MJB? Marie Smith: Sherry, Hope is beautiful! skfuller: Sue Fuller Loveland CO rlskfuller@comcast.net LadyShuttleMaker: Sherry, Boise ID,USA, ladyshuttlemaker@hotmail.com Dorcas Ann: At her daughters in Martinsville AKTATTER: AH Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com Dorcas Ann: I'm supposed to tell her what went on today AKTATTER: OK TODAY WE ARE ENJOYING A LOOK AT THE THREE BOOKS THAT SHERRY PENCE HAS IN PRINT AKTATTER: YOU SHOULD ALL KNOW THAT SHERRY IS ALSO KNOWN AS LADYSHUTTLEMAKER AKTATTER: AND SHE HAS WONDERFUL SHUTTLES AND HAND DYED THREADS AVAILAABLE AS WELL AS THE BOOKS AKTATTER: CHECK HER WEBSITE AKTATTER: AND THE ETSY SHOP FOR ALL KINDS OF GOODIES AKTATTER: THE THREE BOOKS ARE TWO COLLECTIONS OF DELIGHTFUL BUTTERFLIES Marie Smith: Amen to that! AKTATTER: AND A LARGE DOILY WHICH INCORPORATES NEGATIVE SPACE INTO ITS DESIGN AKTATTER: WELL DONE O NTHAT SHERRY! LadyShuttleMaker: ...blushing.... AnneB: k AKTATTER: :)CONGRATUALTIONS ON ALL THREE BOOKS SHERRY AKTATTER: AND THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR WORK WITH US TODAY. LadyShuttleMaker: thank you kindly! AKTATTER: YOU WILL PRINT OFF OR BRING UP ON SCREEN AKTATTER: http://freepdfhosting.com/58eb0b4431.pdf skfuller: I love all your works Sherry picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN THE STYLE OF THE PATTERNS IN HER BOOKS AKTATTER: SO YOU CAN SEE THAT THE DIAGRAMS ARE VERY CLEAR AKTATTER: AS WELL AS NUMBERED WITH THE DS COUNTS AND THE ORDER OF THE WORK, TOO AKTATTER: SHERRY DO YOU HAVE ANY TIPS FOR US BEFORE WE WORK THROUGH THE HOPE BUTTERFLY? Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: WB JENNY Marie Smith: threads, too! Jenny: Sorry i keep dropping out today LadyShuttleMaker: It is a fairly easy pattern...the only mentionable point would be that the two halves all join in the same spot AKTATTER: KEEP TYPING K SO THE COMPUTER KNOWS YOU ARE ACTIVELY LISTENING SO TO SPEAK AKTATTER: OK GOOD TO KNOW THAT LadyShuttleMaker: ...Also..it is good to tat in ends as you start AKTATTER: THE SAMPLE IS IN SIZE 20 THREAD? AKTATTER: ARE THESE YOUR OWN COLORS? AKTATTER: GOOD POINT THE BEST PLACE TO START THINKING A PATTERN THRU IS WITH THE ENDS picotsnkeys: Could I ask a "what if" about the start? LadyShuttleMaker: correct..it is in size 20 and apart from the black thread they would be my own colors yes!..tatted in silk LadyShuttleMaker: ask away AKTATTER: SURE MEL Marie Smith: Did you know that slik is my favorite. Sherry? LadyShuttleMaker: LOL Marie!!! AKTATTER: HTTP:// www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/ends.html picotsnkeys: Would it work well to begin with a long tail to tat the antennae and then add the second color before ring b? Cynthia: k AKTATTER: SHERRY PLEASE GO TO ALL CAPS SO WE CAN LOCATE YOUR COMMENTS EASIER IN THE LOG, THANKS picotsnkeys: No matter how well I tie that beginning knot, the second color shows through! :( Jenny: k LadyShuttleMaker: THAT WOULD WORK TOO! I PERSONALLY USE A SLIP KNOT TO JOIN THE TWO COLORS AND TAT ONE TAIL IN THE RING AND THE OTHER IN THE CHAIN. AnneB: . AKTATTER: MEL HAVE YOU EVER WORKED WITH A DOUBLE CORE THREAD IN A RING? LadyShuttleMaker: IF YOU ARE CAREFUL YOU CAN TAT OVER THE JOINING KNOT TO HIDE THE SPOT OF COLOR picotsnkeys: ah! both good suggestions! LadyShuttleMaker: YOU ALSO WANT TO MAKE SURE YOU SNUG UP THE CHAIN TO GET A NICE CURVE IN THE ANTENNAE AKTATTER: THE MORE YOU COMPRESS THE DS OF A CHAIN BACK TO THE STARTING POINT THE GREAT THE CURVE BECOMES AKTATTER: OK THEN WE HAVE GOT RING A DONE AND CHAIN THAT FOLLOWS AKTATTER: HIDING OUT ENDS AS WE TAT, AS IN TAT OVER TAILS AKTATTER: WHEN WE COME TO RING B WE ENCOUNTER A SPLIT RING picotsnkeys: brb phone Dorcas Ann: werwerwerwerwerwerwer AKTATTER: ELAINE DID YOU GET A CHANCE TO PRACTICE THE SPLIT RING Dorcas Ann from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: DORCAS ARE YOU Ok? LadyShuttleMaker: K AKTATTER: K Dorcas Ann: oops, sorry, I was about to go off and got excited AKTATTER: LOL Cynthia: the weather is doing odd things to my computer connection... AKTATTER: OK ANYONE NEED A REVIEW OF THE SPLIT RING? AKTATTER: BTW AKTATTER: DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN THE DEAD SPIDER HAND POSITION WAS FIRST TAUGHT? LadyShuttleMaker: K picotsnkeys: Am I understandng correctly that you use color 1 for the core thread of the split ring? AnneB: splitrings are fun! AnneB: no LadyShuttleMaker: DONT FORGET THE SS IN THE PATTERN AKTATTER: IOLI MONTREAL 1990 LadyShuttleMaker: SS = SWITCH SHUTTLES Gretta: I don't know what dead spider hand is AKTATTER: RIGHT ! THAT SWITCH SHUTTLE IS IMPORTANT AS IT MANIPULATES THE POSITION OF THE THREADS AnneB: A way of holding your hand while making a SR Gretta: aah Marie Smith: 20 years ago? Cynthia: Gretta do you know how to do the split ring? Marie Smith: I do a modified dead spider Gretta: yes but I'm a needle tatter AKTATTER: HERE IS THE BASIC INFO www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/ends.html AKTATTER: OPPS NO AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SplitRings.... Cynthia: okay I just wanted to make sure we didn't lose anyone.... AKTATTER: BUT THERE IS ALSO A DRAWING skfuller: mine's a modified version also Gretta: hoping to learn shuttle, though Cynthia: Sue will you show me at Hector how you do them? Cynthia: Gretta please come on Thursday to the beginner class it will be lesson 1... LadyShuttleMaker: K Gretta: i'll try, got lots going on. skfuller: Sure! Cynthia: great I can always use help Sue... and Gretta do you have the beginner lessons? AKTATTER: NOT TO WORRY GRETT DEAD SPIDER POSITION IS FOR SHUTTLE TATTING Cynthia: back to my corner now...lol Gretta: i saw them on Georgia's site just haven't printed them AKTATTER: OK WE HAVE DONE THE SS AND DONE THE SPLIT RING AKTATTER: ANOTHER SEGMENT OF CHAIN AKTATTER: NOW WE HAVE A SERIES OF SPLIT RINGS AKTATTER: THROWING REGULAR RINGS OFF THEM picotsnkeys: why do we RW after that chain? AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT THE FIRST PHOTO HERE picotsnkeys: chain between ring b and ring c? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/th... AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE A RING THROWN OFF A CHAIN, THIS IS USED FREQUENTLY IN TATTING AnneB: I'm lost. Which letter are we at? AKTATTER: C LadyShuttleMaker: SO THAT YOUR WORK IS FACING THE CORRECT DIRECTION IN A WAY WHICH MAKES IT EASIEST TO TAT LadyShuttleMaker: MY MOJO IS SCREAMING FOR MY ATTENTION IN THE BACKGROUND AKTATTER: AND WE ARE USED TO THE SELF CLOSING MOCK RING AKA A CHAIN FOLDED BACK TO MAKE A RING WITH A RING THROWN OFF ALSO AnneB: thanks AKTATTER: NOW WE HAVE A RING THROWN OFF THE SIDE OF A SPLIT RING AKTATTER: WELL GET YUOUR MOJO WORKING WE CAN ALL USE A LITTLE HELP Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 6 hours ago Riet de B-engel: Good evening all AnneB: Hi Riet! AKTATTER: WELCOME RIET LadyShuttleMaker: GEORGIA, MOJO IS MY PET PARROT Jenny: k Riet de B-engel: Did anny of you sse my blog AKTATTER: WE ARE ON RING C OF http://freepdfhosting.com/58eb0b4431.pdf Marie Smith: Is Mojo a parrot? AKTATTER: ROFL Marie Smith: Hi Riet!! AKTATTER: MOJO IS ALSO A COMMON COMPUTER TERM, MY CPU USED TO CALL ITSELF MOJO LOL skfuller: Duh? just what is Mojo? AKTATTER: NOW SHERRY MENTIONED THAT THE RW WAS NECESSARY Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE GOING TO THROW OFF A FLOATING RING FROM A SPLIT RING AKTATTER: NOT YET RIET PLEASE GIVE THE LINK LadyShuttleMaker: IF ANYONE IS INTERSTED, TATSKOOL HAS TATTED SEVERAL "hope" BUTTERFLIES AND BLOGGED ABOUT THEM TODAY Marie Smith: Mojo is Sherry's bird LadyShuttleMaker: http://tatsakoolchallenge.blogspot.com/ Riet de B-engel: I am fighting with my laptop AKTATTER: SUPER AKTATTER: MY MONEY IS ON YOU RIET LadyShuttleMaker: SHE USED SUCH BEAUTIFUL COLOR COMBOS AKTATTER: THE THREAD WHICH MAKES THE RING OF THE S PLIT RING AKTATTER: CANNOT BE THE ONE WHICH IS GOING TO THROW OFF THE FLOATING RING AKTATTER: SINCE WE ARE USING TWO COLORS ALSO Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: YOU MUST HAVE THE SHUTTLE IN THE RIGHT POSITION Marie Smith: Hey again Riet! AKTATTER: BUT WHEN YOU LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE PATTERN picotsnkeys: I'm confused...... AKTATTER: THOSE AREN'T RINGS AT ALL! AKTATTER: THEY ARE CHAINS!!! picotsnkeys: oh...then I'm not sonfused! whew! picotsnkeys: confused LadyShuttleMaker: LOL AKTATTER: AND THE ACTUAL FLOATING RIGNS ARE THE TINT r 3 + 3 THAT JOINS TO THE RING B! AKTATTER: IT IS DECEPTIVE WHEN YOU FIRST LOOK AT IT AKTATTER: SO WE HAVE ALL THESE TECHNIQUES TO THINK ABOUT AKTATTER: AND WHY WE HAVE TORW AT THAT CERTAIN POINT AKTATTER: SO MAKE THE FIRST PART OF THE SPLIT RING C AnneB: Could be SCMR too - but then - SCMR are chains pretending to be rings... Cynthia: the sneaky scmr's slipped in on us....I missed that when I was reading the diagram too! AKTATTER: USING SH2 THE LIGHT THREAD AKTATTER: WRAP 10 Riet de B-engel: I am back the URL is: http://bengelblog.blogspot.com skfuller: Yes, I say yours Riet! AKTATTER: USING THAT SMAE SHUTTLE THROW OFF A FLOATING RING, R 3 + (JOIN TO PICOT OF RING B) 3 CLR RING dnrw AKTATTER: SORRY ERROR picotsnkeys: is that join a lock join? skfuller: Whoops I saw it AKTATTER: WRAP 9 NOT 10 SORRY ABOVE AKTATTER: THEN REGULAR CHAIN 10 THEN THROW OFF THE FLOATING RING ABOVE Riet de B-engel: That was what I was thinking no lock join AKTATTER: THE JOIN TO THE RING B IS A REGULAR JOIN AKTATTER: REGULAR CHAIN, REGULAR TINY RING REGULAR CHAIN BRINGS YOU BACK DOWN LadyShuttleMaker: YES LOCK JOINS ARE USED IN THIS PATTERN AT THE BASE OF THE PREVIOUS SR's AKTATTER: TO WERE THE SPLIT RING CLOSED UP picotsnkeys: but a lock join at the base of the split ring c? AKTATTER: NOW THIS IS THE SPOT FOR THE LOCK JOIN AKTATTER: YES AKTATTER: YOU ARE ANCHORING THE CHAIIN BACK TO WHERE IS STARTED OUT AKTATTER: SO THEN SPLIT RING E FOLLOWS AKTATTER: 7 DS ON THE INSIDE AND 9 ON THE OUTSIDE AKTATTER: NOW WHY IS THAT NOW THE SAME DS COUNT ON BOTH SIDES? Riet de B-engel: n AKTATTER: BY DECREASING THE DS COUNT ON THE INSIDE YOU ARE INCREASING THE AMOUNT OF CURVE IN THE WING picotsnkeys: so that the side curves? AKTATTER: EAT TRICK AKTATTER: RIGHT MEL AKTATTER: THEN AGAIN REGULAR CHAIN 8 DS THEN THROW OFF THE TINY RING AKTATTER: R 3 + (JOIN TO THE PICOT OF RING B) 3 CLOSE RING DNRW AKTATTER: REGULAR CHAIN BACK DOWN 8 DS AND AGAIN ;LOCK JOIN AKTATTER: RIGHT AT THE PPLACE WHERE THE CHAIN STARTED AKTATTER: GOT THE IDEA? AnneB: k Gretta: yes LadyShuttleMaker: K AKTATTER: THE CHAIN AFTER RING 1 JOINS TO THE START OF SPLIT RING B Jenny: yes AKTATTER: THEN WORK THE OTHER SIDE AKTATTER: ANY QUESRIONS FOR SHERRY? AKTATTER: ANY PROBLEMS? Cynthia: no I followed it the right way this time I went over it...Thank you for sharing it Sherry AKTATTER: IF YOU TAKE INTO CONSIDERATION FRONT BACK SIDE WORK picotsnkeys: thank you Sherry! Gretta: yes Sherry, Thanks, it's a very nice butterfly Riet de B-engel: k AKTATTER: THEN WORKING PART OF THE ELEMENTS IN RODS IS NECESSARY AnneB: Nice butterfly Serry! Jenny: Thank you Sherry LadyShuttleMaker: YOU BET CYNTHIA! YOU ARE ALL SO VERY WELCOME! ENJOY Angela: Thank you Sherry AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH SHERRY THIS WAS A GREAT PATTERN TO CHALLENGE US AKTATTER: AND GOOD LUCK WITH YOUR BOOKS SHERRY I HOPE TO SEE ANOTHER ONE SOON LadyShuttleMaker: ...PLEASE DON'T FORGET THE HOLOCAUST BUTTERFLY PROJECT Dorcas Ann: Thank you, Sherry Riet de B-engel: Sherry, thank you the book arived save Marie Smith: I must go but will be back tonight. Bye all! Great pattern Sherry! LadyShuttleMaker: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR LETTING ME BE HERE GEORGIA! Cynthia: many of the beginners are tackeling in and getting some done... Riet de B-engel: by marie picotsnkeys: I'm hoping to add a "Hope" to my other butterflies before sending them off! LadyShuttleMaker: BYE MARIE! skfuller: Thanks Sherry Cynthia: you will Melanie AnneB: Bye Marie! Cynthia: bye Marie skfuller: Bye Marie AKTATTER: BYE MARIE SEE YOU TONIGHT picotsnkeys: bye Marie AKTATTER: THAT'S GREAT MEL IS ANYONE ELSE WORKING ONTHE BUTTERFLY PROJECT? Jenny: bye Marie Dorcas Ann: Good - by Cynthia: Melanie how many do you have? I have 2 1/2...lol have to redo 1 or it would be 3... AKTATTER: http://www.hmh.org/ed_butterfly1.shtml Jenny: Yes I have made some AKTATTER: GREAT Riet de B-engel: I am working on several butterflies Cynthia: several in the beginning class are also.... Riet de B-engel: Onre for the tatdays of the palmetto's picotsnkeys: just two. I took time out to do the celtic heart. Now, I'm doing this Hope pattern AnneB: I plan to send the one I test tatted a while ago. LadyShuttleMaker: I AM SENDING IN AROUND 50 ....(hopefully)!! AKTATTER: OKI NOW WE CONTINUE OUR DISCUSSION OF THE DOWN PICOT VS THE DROP PICOT VS THE INWARD FACING PICOT AKTATTER: WOW SHERRY THAT REALLY AMAZING AnneB: But I am a bit single minded in my tatting at the moment... Cynthia: !!!!!!!!!!!!!! wow Sherry! I was hoping to do 2 or 3 a month! just 24.... AnneB: Wow - 50! AKTATTER: YES YOUR BIG PROJECT IS GROWING, LINK US ANNE PLEASE Cynthia: I bet they will be surprised when all the butterflies start arriving from tatters.... AnneB: Latest Photos: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2010/03/bare-va... Jenny: Wow! LadyShuttleMaker: BEAUTIFUL ANNE Cynthia: Double WOW and look at the astronomy pic tooo--scroll down it is almost as awesome AKTATTER: SUPER ANNE WAS A TREASURE THAT WILL BE Cynthia: as the tatting....and what a neat treasure AKTATTER: RIET WHO IS BEN? IS THAT OUR BEN FIKKERT? AnneB: Thanks :-) Riet de B-engel: Ben Fikkert LadyShuttleMaker: I AM SO GLAD YOUR BOOK ARRIVED SAFELY RIET! picotsnkeys: I was wondering the same thing! Riet de B-engel: It is our Ben Fikkert AKTATTER: WOW THAT IS NEAT! Riet de B-engel: It was big Fun Jenny: Sorry I have to go now, see you all next week, Will it be earlier? Jenny: Sorry I have to go now, see you all next week, Will it be earlier? AKTATTER: BYE JENNY picotsnkeys: bye Jenny. Oh, that's right....spring ahead time? Riet de B-engel: The new member is not on the picture It was not allowed because her husband is the journalist Cynthia: bye Jenny AKTATTER: AFTER THE TIMNE CHANGE WE STILL MEET AT 3pm AND 8:30pm et Jenny: Sorry I have to go now, see you all next week, Will it be earlier? LadyShuttleMaker: THANK YOU FOR HAVING ME EVERYBODY! I MUST GET BACK TO WORK! GOODBYE! AnneB: Bye Jenny AKTATTER: THE EGGS ARE SO CUTE RIET BUT THE LADY BIRD IS THE CUTEST :) Riet de B-engel: By Sherry Cynthia: yes it will seem earlier and for those who don't do dst it will be earlier... AKTATTER: BYW HSERRY THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR WORK WITH US AnneB: When do you change to summer time? Cynthia: Bye sherry AKTATTER: MARCH 14 AnneB: Bye Sherry! Jenny: Don't know what my computer is doing at the moment. We don't change clocks till the end of March picotsnkeys: bye Sherry )and Mojo) AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE TROUBLE WITH THE TIME ZONES: http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/convert... AnneB: Ok have to remember that next monday - we don't change yet. Riet de B-engel: I am so proud of my daughter in law Alice She made severall things for norac AKTATTER: THAT IS WONDERFUL RIET Jenny from x.x.x.14 left the chat 5 hours ago Cynthia: awesome Riet AKTATTER: OK WE HAVE MORE TODAY IS ANYONE ABLE TO STAY? Cynthia: I can for awhile... AnneB: I can Angela: I have to go to. Gretta: for a little while AKTATTER: OK LETS LOOK AT THE PAGE BY GINA BRUMMET AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabnc1921j... Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Mar 9 02:51:57 2010 GMT - Visible content (145 KB) Page 2 of 3 - Char 51428 to 102483 - Newest entries at the bottom Riet de B-engel: The egg is a project for the guild In Spring we make a surprise packet and xhange it in the meeting no names on the packet Angela from x.x.x.22 left the chat 5 hours ago AKTATTER: I LOVE EXCHANGES LIKE THAT RIET AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabrummetn... picotsnkeys: bye Angela AKTATTER: IF YOU WILL LOOK AT THE SINGLE PHOTO IT IS EASIER TO FOLLOW LAONG AKTATTER: IF THE CENTER RING IS MADE OF THE SAME COLOR THREAD, THEN IT IS MADE LATER AKTATTER: AND LIKE THE TINY RINGS I NSHERRY'S BUTTERFLY AKTATTER: IT WOULD BE THROW OFF AS A FLOATING RING FROM A CHAIN AKTATTER: IF THE CENTER RING IS A DIFFERENT COLOR THREAD AKTATTER: THEN YOU WILL WANT TO MAKE IT SEPARATELY AKTATTER: TO MAKE IT EASY TO HIDE THE ENDS picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: PLEASE CONSIDER A DOUBLE CORE RING AKTATTER: THAT IS COMPLETELY WRAPPED NOT TATTED AKTATTER: THAT WAY YOU COVER THE ENDS AS YOU WRAP AKTATTER: BUT NORMALLY AKTATTER: WE WOULD MAKE THIS SEPARATE CENTER RING BY STARTING IT IN THE AKTATTER: MIDDLE OF A SET OF DS AKTATTER: HERE THERE ARE 2 DS BETWEEN EACH OF THE 8 PICOTS AKTATTER: SO TAT 1 DS PICOT 2 - 2- ETC. AKTATTER: THEN HIDE THE ENDS AKTATTER: WITH SH1 AND BALL OR SECOND SHUTTLE AKTATTER: BEGIN AT RING A AKTATTER: R 2 - 2 - 4 LARGE PICOT 4 - 2 - 2 CLOSE RING RW AKTATTER: CHAIN A HAS 3 DS BETWEEN 5 PICOTS RW AKTATTER: RING B R 2 - 2 - 4 + (JOIN TO THE LARGE PICOT) 4 - 2 - 2 CLOSE RING RW Gretta: sorry got to go AKTATTER: REPEAT CHAIN A AKTATTER: REPEAT RING B AKTATTER: CHAIN B HAS 3 DS BETWEEN 5 PICOTS AKTATTER: THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN CHAIN A ND B IS THAT CHAIN BE JOINS TO THE LARGE PICOT ALSO AKTATTER: CHAIN D HAS 5 DS - 5 + (JOIN TO PICOT OF THE CENTER RING) 5 - 5 AKTATTER: DONOT RW AKTATTER: PLACE A PAPER CLIP OR SAFETY PIN ONTHE CORE THREAD AKTATTER: THIS HOLDS OUT A LOOP OF THREAD = INWARD FACING PICOT AKTATTER: TO WHICH ALL THREE RINGS AND THE LAST CHAIN B WILL ATTACH Cynthia: is that the spot to throw off the center ring? or is that later AKTATTER: EASY PATTERN picotsnkeys: bye Gretta. AKTATTER: YES CHAIN D AT MID POINT YOU WOULD THROW OFF THE CENTER RING AKTATTER: BYE GRETTA picotsnkeys: This looks to me like a candidate for needle tatting. AKTATTER: SURE IS AKTATTER: NOW LETS LOOK AT MARKS PATERN Cynthia: but doable with shuttle as well... AnneB: (sigh) AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/myersdownwar... picotsnkeys: yes Anne? Cynthia: what's wrong anne? AKTATTER: ANNE? AKTATTER: OH OH ARE YOU DOING FROG STITCH? AnneB: I need to start the last motif ower again - that is what happens when you tat and chat LO AKTATTER: OH DEAR THAT IS WHAT I WAS AFRAID OF.. AnneB: L picotsnkeys: oh no!!!!!!! AKTATTER: OK THE SECOND PHOTO ON MARK'S PAGE Cynthia: grrrr that is always frustrating...sorry Anne AKTATTER: THAT SHOWS 2 PAPER CLIPS HUNG ON THE CORE THREAD AKTATTER: AS IN GINA'S PATTERN ABOVE AKTATTER: THIS KEEPS OUT THE LOOP OF THREAD SO YOU CAN JOIN TO IT LATER AnneB: At least I was consitant in the error -two p to many on every ring! AnneB: It is a lovely fan AKTATTER: THIS IS AN EXCELLENT PATTERN TO PRACTICE THE SELF CLOSING MOCK RING AKTATTER: WHICH IS THE MOST FREQUENT USE OF THE INWARD FACING PICOT Cynthia: can you use it elsewhere or is it already attached? AKTATTER: YOU ARE CREATING APOINT OF ATTACHMENT FOR LATER AKTATTER: OK SUE DID ONE OF THE PAGES YOU SENT USE AN INWARD FACING PICOT? AnneB: Hm - could it be made into round motif - with eigth "spikes" picotsnkeys: that's what I was thinking....rounding.... AKTATTER: ALSO GOOD PRIACTICE FOR FLOATING RINGS Cynthia: ah ha that is the down picot then? just a spot to attach to later and not a decorative picot... AKTATTER: YOU CAN JOIN TO THE LOOP HELD OUT U=MULTIPLE TIMES DEPENDING ONLY ON YOUR PATTERN AKTATTER: SUE? skfuller: WELL... I DON/T THINK SO AKTATTER: DOWN PICOT IS MADE WITH THE CORE THREAD SO IT HAS A CONSTRUCTION PURPOSE, NOT JUST ANOTHER PRETTY PICOT AKTATTER: OK skfuller: BECAUSE BOTH PATTERNS USE SETS NOT A PICOT OF THE CORE THREAD AKTATTER: WHAT ABOUT LATHY'S INVERSE PICOT? AnneB: Which was that one? skfuller: tHE LAMB I'M CUR5ENTLY MAKING HAS THE DOWN PICLT AKTATTER: NOPE I SEE THE PAGE BY KATHY NOW ANS THAT IS MADE WITH THE WORKING THREAD NOT THE CORE THREAD AKTATTER: OH ALITTLE LAMBFOR EASTER? skfuller: WHERE IS KATHY'S? AKTATTER: FROM YOUR NOTES http://home.pacbell.net/jlowe2/kathy/Pattern/... AKTATTER: OK WE WILL STUDY YOUR NOTES AND PATTERNS AND DO THEM IN CLASS LATER OK? AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS O NTHE INWARD FACING PICOT? skfuller: OH RIGHT AnneB: no skfuller: BOY DO I NEED TO MAKE THAT CHART picotsnkeys: still pohdering....no questions right now Cynthia: I think I understand how to do them. I'll try before tonight and see if it works AKTATTER: OK THEN THIS INFO REPEATS TONIGHT AT 8:30PM ET (NEW YORK TIME) AKTATTER: ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? skfuller: mY HOLLY AND SNOWFLAKE USE A SET OF HS'S AKTATTER: BEGINNERS CLASS ON THURSDAYS AKTATTER: SPANISH CLASS ON SATURDAYS skfuller: aM i RIGHT IN CALLING THAT AN INWARD FACING PICOT? AKTATTER: OK SUE THAT IS A GOO TOPIC HS AND SETS, AKA NODE STITCH picotsnkeys: not that any of you will come, but.....the Lace Museum in Sunnyvale is having a Tat and Chat the second Tuesday of each month AKTATTER: OOHHH I'LL BE THERE IS SPIRT SAY HI FROM ME! picotsnkeys: perhaps I'll take my laptop and see if I can sign in to Chatzy on their connection AKTATTER: SUE I WILL STUDY IT AGAIN BUT I DON'T SEE IT AS AN INWARD FACING PICOT RIGHT NOW picotsnkeys: That way if you know and are free, you could "be there" AKTATTER: OH THAT WOULD BE NEAT IF YOU COULD WE WOULD DO A SPECIAL CLASS! AKTATTER: OK THEN THANKS TO SHERRY, GINA, MARK AND SUE FOR SHARING THEIR WORK WITH US TODAY picotsnkeys: thank you (again) Sue! AKTATTER: THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS DEPENDS ON OUR VOLUNTEERS SO MUCH AKTATTER: BYE THE WAY AKTATTER: THE RECENET FUNDRAISER AnneB: Yes - and thanks to you Georgia! AKTATTER: REACHED $247 AnneB: Great! AKTATTER: AND WE ARE SECURE ON LINE UNTIL LATER JUNE. WOW Cynthia: yes thank you to all of them! without them we'd all be a bit lost....my first block is done and the second will be done before hector! AKTATTER: AND THANKS TO EVERYONE WHO PARTICIPATED AKTATTER: THANKS ANNE:) AKTATTER: BYE FOR NOW THANKS FOR STOPPIN GBY AKTATTER from x.x.x.219 left the chat 5 hours ago Cynthia: bye and peace Cynthia: see eveyone later AnneB: Bye all! see you on Thursday or Monday! picotsnkeys: bye all! AnneB: Now back to motif no 20... AnneB from x.x.x.10 left the chat 5 hours ago picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 left the chat 5 hours ago Cynthia: bye Sue Cynthia from x.x.x.14 left the chat 5 hours ago Susan from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 2 hours ago Greengal from x.x.x.15 joined the chat 2 hours ago Greengal from x.x.x.15 left the chat 2 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.144 joined the chat 112 minutes ago AKTATTER: March 8, 2010 evening session needle tatting AKTATTER: brb nstitcher from x.x.x.60 joined the chat 111 minutes ago nstitcher: uh oh.. do I have the time wrong? AKTATTER: hi there! Greengal from x.x.x.15 joined the chat 110 minutes ago AKTATTER: this is the half hour of needle tatting questions AKTATTER: regular class starts in 28 minutes nstitcher: oh am I early then for the shuttle? AKTATTER: do you have a question for tonight? nstitcher: not right now Greengal: Just going to follow tonight Georgia as I still have heaps to learn AKTATTER: yes a little early but any question is welcome AKTATTER: ok AKTATTER: that's just fine green, too nstitcher: I've been working on the neuespitzen snowflake AKTATTER: we add some pages to the class this afternoon here are the links you might want to print off nstitcher: ok AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... birch2u from x.x.x.161 joined the chat 108 minutes ago birch2u: hi AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... AKTATTER: welcome cheryl AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabrummetn... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabnc1921j... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/myersdownwar... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/superbowl.html birch2u: thanks just got word I will have 10 students at shuttlebirds work shop AKTATTER: I am checking to see if anyone needs help to get to the classroom brb AKTATTER: wow Cheryl that is great! birch2u: and still twoweeks left for registration Mary Maynard from x.x.x.30 joined the chat 105 minutes ago Mary Maynard: AK do you have a link for tonight's pattern? Mary Maynard: Hi Ak Mary Maynard: I sse them Thankx maria alcantara from x.x.x.67 joined the chat 102 minutes ago maria alcantara: hi all girls! AKTATTER: hey Maria AKTATTER: hi y aMary WardMom from x.x.x.243 joined the chat 101 minutes ago WardMom: I am checking in early Mary Maynard from x.x.x.30 joined the chat 100 minutes ago Mary Maynard: Ak, CHecking the patterns for tonight & logged off in error AKTATTER from x.x.x.144 sent out 3 invitations 100 minutes ago maria alcantara: i have all g. thanks...... AKTATTER: ok any needle tatting questions? maria alcantara: thank you for showing my tattworks in your main pagr g! AKTATTER: hello ward AKTATTER: maria do you have isa email address? maria alcantara: i request you a patter for a jacket for me G.......pleas! maria alcantara: isabel the sapnish or the dainish? Greengal from x.x.x.15 left the chat 98 minutes ago AKTATTER: Maria I have found several stoles and vests but not one that has sleeves but i will keep looking AKTATTER: spanish AKTATTER: you did great work maria alcantara: let me go to my mail... AKTATTER: Mary are you finding the links ok? Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 97 minutes ago AKTATTER: welcome gail Gail: Hi, all Gail: Hey, AK Mary Maynard: Yes, I am getting around in this better finally printed out the fan AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions? AKTATTER: ok good AKTATTER: this is open chat any questions are welcome AKTATTER: any announcements? Mary Maynard: I guess one could say that I am here & will try to be here more often Mary Maynard: am getting adjusted to having a 5 day a week job again AKTATTER: while waiting eye candy http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2010/03/bare-va... AKTATTER: you are most welcome Mary we are glad you made it back Mary Maynard: my #2 grandson is 13 months and walking. I get to spend mornings with him. AKTATTER: Anne bruvold's giant doily getting bigger maria alcantara: G: isabel serena mangas AKTATTER: time passes quickly at that age AKTATTER: gracias Maria Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 94 minutes ago Cynthia: Hi everyone.... Cynthia: Anne's doily is awesome... Mary Maynard: yes it is!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!s skfuller from x.x.x.162 joined the chat 93 minutes ago AKTATTER: isa's package arrived today and i wanted to thank her AKTATTER: wlcome sue skfuller: Hi everyone Just noticed the time! Mary Maynard: Yes AK it does and I feel so priviledged AKTATTER: maria this is the vest pattern i found http://hhtatting.com/detail.cfm?ID=946 Gail: k AKTATTER: wendy shu's block came in today and mary donahue's block arrived Sat. that makes 16 blocks turned in so far AKTATTER: open chat continues, any links to share? Mary Maynard: Are you posting them anywhere skfuller: I just sent the beginning of my chart Mary Maynard: Possibly for more ideas? maria alcantara: thank you g is nice!!!!! AKTATTER: no we decided not topost skfuller: The file name of chart is PicotChart but Mary Maynard: Okay good to know AKTATTER: too many of the tatters who adopted blocks are new to embroidery and crazy quilt blocks skfuller: it needs to be renamed since picot info starts on page 3 AKTATTER: so we don't want to offer a block and then everyone copy we wwant original not matter what the skill level Mary Maynard: That is fine by me AKTATTER: ok sue i will go fet the chart Mary Maynard: I have more ideas and tatting than the blocks I got Cynthia: Mary I understand what you mean...I have the same problem... Mary Maynard: Thanks SO I am not alone.. . . . AKTATTER: got it sue will go post it now brb Cynthia: My ideas overflow but the block won't take them all...lol or it would be an embroidered block not a cq! WardMom from x.x.x.243 joined the chat 85 minutes ago Mary_ND from x.x.x.158 joined the chat 85 minutes ago WardMom: Are you talking about crazy quilt blocks? AKTATTER: yes ward we are talking about the fundraiser scholarship blocks Cynthia: yes...for the fundraiser...more ideas than room to put everything...lol Mary Maynard: Yea WardMom we are Mary_ND: Hi all WardMom: with tatting and embroidery ? Sounds interesting. I love to do them AKTATTER: ok maria look at this http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/MrsRBHopeA... Mary Maynard: Hi Mary-ND Gina from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 83 minutes ago AKTATTER: I found several things similar to that but only tops Gina: hi Suz from x.x.x.89 joined the chat 83 minutes ago Mary Maynard: Hi Gina AKTATTER: and for the rest of us print off http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullerpicot... Suz: Hi everyone! Mary Maynard: Suz Hi! Cynthia: Hi Gina and WardMom and Mary and everyone else.... Gail: k AKTATTER: Gina how nice to see you we are working your pattern tonight Cynthia: will we need that tonight? I have to go to the other computer to print.... WardMom: I need to edit my profile ... my name is actually Sharon skfuller: this chart is barely started!!! AKTATTER: reference chart to be worked on AKTATTER: right skfuller: Needs lots of work and research AKTATTER: hi Sharon Cynthia: okay I'll just save it to this computer...and look as needed. Suz: . AKTATTER: ok March 8, 2010 regular online tatting class WardMom: . Gina: my pattern? Cynthia: I appreciate having something like that....good for conversation starters,,, AKTATTER: oh... which gina is this? nstitcher: . Gina: newbie Gina Cynthia: are we ready to sign in? maria alcantara: G the apploication is great! but i feel the first is easier.... the second is a great work... WardMom: newbie Sharon also Suz: (-: AKTATTER: ah welcome as ever gina, one day we may be doing a pattern of yours :) AKTATTER: yes it is but the first one has no sleeves just a vest so you think it will do? AKTATTER: open chat continues any questios? Marie Smith from x.x.x.180 joined the chat 78 minutes ago AKTATTER: Mary Fitch has a bolero type jacket WardMom: . maria alcantara: where G????? Mary Maynard: Am I getting this? someone is looking for a tatted vest pattern? Cynthia: that's right MaryM AKTATTER: yes mary we are looking for jacket not just a vest tho maria alcantara: yes!!!!! meeee Mary Maynard: Would you like me to do some research among my basement publications? AKTATTER: Maria look here too big file http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/maryfitch/... maria alcantara: great! I will realy apreciatte that!!!!!! Mary Maynard: Maria, email me direct - tattnmary@bresnan.net Cynthia: oh...I love vests and have thought about how to do one...not tackeled it yet.... WardMom: . Mary Maynard: I have this whole basement full of patterns and stuff AKTATTER: that would be wonderful Mary so far I am only finding stoles shawlsand vests Mary Maynard: Okay, I will let you know what & if I find whatever AKTATTER: thanks so much Suz: . WardMom: . AKTATTER: ok everyone have the sherry pence and gina brummet pages printed? Marie Smith: I want a shawl pattern, not done in motifs. I want it more or less continuous tatting. maria alcantara: G the last link can+t be open...... Suz: Yes I have both. AKTATTER: ah ok I will send it to you then maria Sandy from x.x.x.19 joined the chat 74 minutes ago AKTATTER: Marie we have such a shawl posted online AKTATTER: welcome sandy Sandy: Hello Everyone Marie Smith: Where would I find it? Cynthia: It won't open for me either...says an error has occured and can't be fixed... AKTATTER: a continuous pattern I believe and it is a very old pattern too Mary Maynard: Hi Sandy AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/younkin/younkin.h... Cynthia: Hi Sandy and MarieS WardMom: what are we dupposed to print? AKTATTER: it takes split chain and split ring to make it continuous Marie Smith: Thank you Georgia. I remember this shawl! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabrummetn... http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabnc1921j... Cynthia: That is awesome.... AKTATTER: get those printed brb tel Mary Maynard: AK what pattern of Sherry's are we looking at? Wally from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 70 minutes ago Mary Maynard: or are we reviewing her books? I have not heard of her Wally: G' night all! I almost forget the class again! Ugh! Mary Maynard: Hi Mary Maynard: ally Cynthia: I printed those off earlier so no problem...my computer and printer are not communicating so I have to get it from Doug's computer...start it up, log on.,,,etc then get to print Mary Maynard: Wally Wally: Wally Sosa needledreams@yahoo.com Mary Maynard: : ) Mary Maynard: Hi Wally Cynthia: Hi wally we aren't there yet. it is the butterfly pic that georgia listed above... maria alcantara: llegaste corriendo aun no inicia oficialmente la clase.....aaaaa Marie Smith: I did not sign in. Wally: Uf! What a relief! lol maria alcantara: no jajaja ...solo aaaaa Marie Smith: Marie Smith Anderson SC tattingwithmarie@yahoo.com AKTATTER: welcome wally Cynthia: we haven't yet...will when Georgia gets back I think AKTATTER: that ws my sis she is applying for a passport Suz: Suzan Crites scrites@charter.net Jackson, Missouri USA Mary Maynard: Signing in Mary Maynard Laramie, WY WardMom: Marie ... I my brother lives in Anderson Wally: I don't know why I keep fprgeting that is only 1 hr of difference. AKTATTER: and doesn't know when or where her parents were born!! AKTATTER: oh the the younger generation Mary Maynard: Tattnmary@bresnan.net AKTATTER: LETS SIGN IN Marie Smith: What is his name?!! WardMom: My parents lived in Anderson also and I had many nice visits there AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Mary_ND: Mary Baumler, MaryReneeEng@gmail.com, Fargo North Dakota USA - Shuttle nstitcher: Nina Richardson denver co nstitcher@gmail.com, myneedlenews@gmail.com shuttle mostly skfuller: Sue Fuller Loveland CO rlskfuller@comcast.net Gail: Gail Hayes, llawen1@yahoo.com, maylene, Al Wally: NOw! lol Wally Sosa needledreams@yahoo.com Puerto Rico Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK USA, brasthatfit@yahoo.com WardMom: Sharon Ward - Canandaigua, NY Gina: Gina Shillitani deastrega@yahoo.com Tampa, FL USA Suz: Suzan Crites scrites@charter.net Jackson, Missouri USA Sandy: Sandy Cofer, Bremerton, WA USA dscofer2@comcast.net Mary Maynard: Mary Maynard tattnmary@bresnan.net Laramie WY USA birch2u: Cheryl Birch Springfield, Oregon USA birch2u@yahoo.com nata 289 AKTATTER: OK SHERRY PENCE JOINED US THIS AFTERNOON AND TALKED ABOUT HER WORK AND HELPED US WITH A PATTERN AKTATTER: SHERRY IS ALSO KNOWN AS LADY SHUTTLE MAKER AKTATTER: YOU KNOW THAT SHE MAKES COLORFUL SHUTTLES AND HAND DYES THREAD AKTATTER: YOU ARE SEE THE WIDE RANGE OF COLORS ON HER ETSY SHOP Wally: I had a shuttle from her and hubby broke it. ;'( Sandy: Sherry is teaching a beautiful angel at the Shuttlebirds Workshop in Spokane, WA. using the folded ring. maria alcantara: Maria Alcantara: famalcan@prodigy.net.mx ...Mexico City Cynthia: I don;t even want to know how....I am sorry Wally AKTATTER: OH THAT IS GREAT! AKTATTER: AW WALLY THAT IS TOO BAD AKTATTER: ALSO CHECK OUT HER BLOG FOR DETAILS ON THE THREES BOOKS AKTATTER: http://ladyshuttlemaker.blogspot.com/ Mary Maynard: Wish I could make it to Spokanne. this year I am guying a house mine WardMom: . Mary Maynard: Sorry about the shuttel Wally, It hurst Wally: I got the last butterfly book and I love it! Sandy: Sorry you won't be there, Mary. AKTATTER: SHE HAS 2 BOOKS OF BUTTERFLIUES AND A THIRD BOOK OF A LARGE DOILY THAT USES NEGATIVE SPACE AS PART OF THE OVERALL DESIGN Mary Maynard: NEXT YEAR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE SAMPLES OF HER WORK Gail: K birch2u: Im teaching also at shuttlebirds WardMom: . AKTATTER: TEH LEAF THE CLUNY HEART AND THE BUTTERFLY INPROFILE Suz: . Sandy: Are you?? AKTATTER: SHE HAS SHARED THOSE PATTERNS WITH THECLASSBEFORE AKTATTER: TONIGHT SHE SHARES AN NEW BUTTERFLY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... AKTATTER: THIS ALSO GIVE YOU A LOOK AT HER STYLE OF PATTERNS AKTATTER: CLEAR PHOTOS AND NUMBERED DIAGRAM skfuller: which class are you teaching AKTATTER: DIAGRAMS ALSO SHOW THE ORDER OF WORK WardMom: . AKTATTER: THIS HOPE BUTTERFLY IS A LOVELY SAMPLE THAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO SEND ON TO THE BUTTERFLY PROJECT AKTATTER: http://www.hmh.org/ed_butterfly1.shtml birch2u: water/pop bottle skirt Cynthia: my idea exactly... Sandy: What class? Mary Maynard: I have been out what butterfly project AKTATTER: SO WE HAVE 2 TATTERS TEACHING AT SPOKANE THIS YEAR AKTATTER: THAT IS A GREAT EVENT WardMom: . birch2u: will share with this dlass if ak wants another pattern AKTATTER: FOR MORE DETAILS ABOUT SPOKANE http://www.shuttlebirds.com/index.shtml AKTATTER: OH WE SURE DO CHERYL Sandy: Mary taucht me the self-closing mock ring!! AKTATTER: RIGHT AFTER THE SPOKANE EVENT ! AKTATTER: GREAT! birch2u: adding beads with out stringing first AKTATTER: OK SHERRY'S PATTERN USES THE SPLIT RING Sandy: Wonderful. I wanted to take everything! Wally: I would love to go. BUt I don't know why the lotto doesn't want to get out my numbers. lol AKTATTER: IS SPLIT RING NEW TO ANYONE TONIGHT/ WardMom: Me birch2u: no birch2u: good one wally WardMom: but I will learn that in a week or so Gina: I've tried it but I am a beginner at it Mary_ND: no WardMom: at class Gail: Nope AKTATTER: GREAT AKTATTER: OK LET ME GET THE LINKS TO THE REF FILES FOR SPLIT RING WardMom: cool Cynthia: Lesson 4 in the beginners class.... maria alcantara: no... Suz: . Wally: . Marie Smith: Sharon, what is your brother's name? AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Spli... Cynthia: k hope G from x.x.x.27 joined the chat 57 minutes ago WardMom: His name is Scott Schoedel. I believe he is moving to the coast or has already moved. He's been there for quite a while AKTATTER: ANY KNOW THE LINK TO THE DEAD SPIDER PAGE? AKTATTER: WELCOM HOPE Mary Maynard: Hi HOpe Sandy: Hi Hope! hope G: loo.. was napping... hi all- hugs Wally nstitcher: the you tube video? Cynthia: Hi Hope AKTATTER from x.x.x.144 joined the chat 56 minutes ago Marie Smith: Hi Hope! Gail: Hi, Hope hope G: Hey Mary... Sandy!! good class AKTATTER: OK! THAT WAS THE PAGE JUST GO TO THE BOTTOM Wally: Hi Hopie! How are you doing? WardMom: Marie .. I used to visit there and stop in at YES Yarns hope G: Saw our visit photos Wally- that was too long ago!! AKTATTER: PRATICALLY SPEAKING, THE RING GOES FROM A TO A IN A CIRCLE FROM THE STARTING POINT ENDING WHERE IT STARTED Marie Smith: Yes Yarns just closed. I miss it. AKTATTER: BUT A SPLIT RING BEGINS AS A REGULAR RING AND THEN YOU BRING INTO PLAY A SECOND SHUTTLE AKTATTER: THE SECOND SIDE OR THE BOTTOM OF A SPLIT RING IS NOT TATTED AKTATTER: NO INDEED, THAT FLIP THAT YOU PRACTICED SO HARD T OMASTER IS NOT USED! WardMom: . AKTATTER: IN FACT YOU DELIBERATELY DO NOT FLIP THS HALF STITCH AS YOU MAKE IT AKTATTER: THIS IS CALLED WRAPPING Cynthia: and it can be almost that hard to not flip it.... AKTATTER: SO TAT HALF THE RING THEN WRAP HALF THE RING AKTATTER: IT HELPS TO WRAP THE DS ON THE BOTTOM SIDE IFYOU URN YOUR HAND SO THE FINGRS STICK UP birch2u: sotrue AKTATTER: LIKE THE LEGS OF A DEAD SPIDER AKTATTER: KEEPING YOUR FINGERS TAUT YOU WRAP EACH HS Sandy: k Gail: k AKTATTER: AND SLIDE IT TO THE LEFT AKTATTER: REMEMBER NO FLIPPING WHILE WRAPPING WardMom: . maria alcantara: . Suz: . AKTATTER: IT TAKES PRACATICE BUT YOU WILL GET IT Mary Maynard: Also remember to reverse the order of the half stitches Mary Maynard: in the wrap part Wally: way too long. i would try to go to palmetto this year as a teacher. will send next week hopefully my application CelticDreamWeaver from x.x.x.244 joined the chat 53 minutes ago Mary Maynard: and it dones not have to be split half and half AKTATTER: GOOD POINT MARY TO MAKE BOTH SIDES LOOK "RIGHT SIDE" OR FRONT SIDE UP Cynthia: and once you get it you'll find all kinds of uses for it CelticDreamWeaver: Hiya everybody AKTATTER: YOU REVERSE THE ORDER OF THE STITCHS = RODS AKTATTER: WELCOME SHERRY Cynthia: Hi Sherry WardMom: Hi Sherry hope G: k CelticDreamWeaver: Is WardMom Sharon? AKTATTER: SECOND HALF STITCH FIRST AKTATTER: FIRST HALF STITCH SECOND WardMom: yepper Mary Maynard: Hi Sherry LOng time no see CelticDreamWeaver: hey you made it AKTATTER: OK SHERRY' BUTTERFLY BEGINS WITH RING 1 USING SHUTTLE 1 = SH1 Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Mar 9 02:52:24 2010 GMT - Visible content (145 KB) Page 3 of 3 - Char 102484 to 148733 - Newest entries at the bottom CelticDreamWeaver: WardMom is one of my tatting students Marie Smith: Hi Sherry WardMom: yes Gail: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... CelticDreamWeaver: Hiya Mary AKTATTER: THEN CHAIN 20 AKTATTER: RING B IS THE FIRS SPLIT RING birch2u: hi sherry Clau from x.x.x.10 joined the chat 51 minutes ago hope G: lucky you Ward Mom!!! wish I had been that lucky for a teacher to start!! Wally: Hola Clau! CelticDreamWeaver: Who is birch2u? Clau: hi all girls!! im late? Mary Maynard: SO DO I AKTATTER: THE SPLIT RING HAS A BLUE TATTED SIDE Mary Maynard: am mostly self taught from old workbaskets AKTATTER: WELCOME CLAUDIA WardMom: I am very fortunate Clau: hi georgi! AKTATTER: AND THE BOTTOM HALF IS THE WRAPPED HALF OF THE RING IN THE LIGHT COLORS birch2u: CherylBrch WardMom: . Suz: . AKTATTER: THE PATTERN READS SR = SPLIT RING 12 / 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 CLOSERING RW SS maria alcantara: CLau hola! nstitcher: . AKTATTER: THAT MEANS USING THE BLUE THREAD SHUTTLE WRAP LEFT HAND AND BEGIN RING WITH 12 DS Clau: hola maria.. ya empezaron? AKTATTER: TURN HAND FOR THE DEAD SPIDER POSITION WardMom: . maria alcantara: ya registrate... AKTATTER: USING LIGHT COLOR SHUTTLE SH2 WRAP AKTATTER: 3 DS PICOT 3 DS PICOT 3 DS PICOT 3 Clau: claudia meza, cloelo@gmail.com. argentina AKTATTER: RETURN TO SH1 (BLUE) AND CLOSE THE RING AKTATTER: RW REVERSE THE WORK AKTATTER: SS SWITCH SHUTTLE maria alcantara: abre el link que se va! AKTATTER: NOW TAT THE BLUE CHAIN 16 DS AKTATTER: THE NEXT SPLIT RING IS RING C Wally: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/sherrypen... Estan hablando de esta mariposa Clau: ok, gracias maria alcantara: si... Clau: hola wally, gracias AKTATTER: OKSO FAR??? Suz: k Wally: yup WardMom: . maria alcantara: yes... CelticDreamWeaver: Sharon if you are having any problems with what you are reading here...write it down and we will discuss it on March 3rd birch2u: yup AKTATTER: BEGIN SPLIT RING C WITH THE LIGHT THREAD SH2 Gail: k Sandy: k WardMom: I was planning on that .... Mary Maynard: AK with the long chains, remember to use consistent tension on the chians I am still working on that AKTATTER: TAT 7 / WITH THE BLUE THREAD SH1 WRAP 9 AKTATTER: NOW WHY ARE THERE 7 DS ON THE INSIDE AKTATTER: AND 9 DS ON THE OUTSIDE birch2u: me too with long chains Mary Maynard: to turn the corner AKTATTER: WHY ISN'T IT HE SAME NUMBER OF DS? maria alcantara: a curve Suz: The curve on the outside is wider than the inside...like speed skating! AKTATTER: YES MARY AND THE EXPERIENCED TATTER MIGHT WANT TO USE TEH BALANCED DOUBLES STITCH FOR THE LONG CHAINS birch2u: outside curve Mary Maynard: and make the curve right Maria Cynthia: I like the bds=balanced double stitch for the long chains...it helps the beginners too.... Mary Maynard: is there a link for balanced chains? Cynthia: I'll get it AKTATTER: IT IS ON JANE'S SITE Mary Maynard: thankx AKTATTER: THANKS CYN AKTATTER: RIGHT MARIA CHERYL WardMom: did you post the link for the split rings reference? Wally: But if the BDS is used, would it change the overall size of the chain if we use the same amount of stitches? AKTATTER: IT MAKES THE CURVE MORE INTENSE AKTATTER: SO WE CLOSE THIS SPLIT RING AKTATTER: NOW USING SH2 THE LIGHT THREAD AKTATTER: CHAIN 10 AKTATTER: DO NOT RW Mary Maynard: will be educational to try both AKTATTER: USING SH2 STILL MAKE A TINY RING Gail: I really like the balanced chain. Makes the chain so much neater. AKTATTER: THIS IS CALLED THROWING OFF A RING AKTATTER: AND THE RING ITSELF IS CALLED A FLOATING RING Mary Maynard: So goo to know the terms AKTATTER: R 3 + (JOIN TO THE PICOTS ON RING B) 3 CLOSE RING DO NOR RW AKTATTER: CONTINUE TO CHAIN 10 AKTATTER: NOW MAKE A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN TO THE BASE OF THE CHAIN AKTATTER: RIGTH WHERE IT EXITED THE SPLIT RING AKTATTER: QUESTIONS? Suz: . Wally: . maria alcantara: no. Mary Maynard: no ???? But I will try this one. I like butterflies Clau: - CelticDreamWeaver: AK you should check out WardMom's blog nstitcher: . WardMom: This will be fun when I get it .... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthplongrin... BALANCED DOUBLE STITCH Clau: nice pattern,, like them! AKTATTER: SHARON PLEASE GIVE THE URL Gina: we're talking about butterfly #19 by Pence? Sandy: k CelticDreamWeaver: http://wardmomandandy.blogspot.com/ WardMom: I am blushing hope G: k AKTATTER: SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtlj... AKTATTER: OH HOW SWEET WardMom: my teacher made me do it AKTATTER: sHERRY YOU DID A GOOD JOB TEACHING ! AKTATTER: OK ON THE BUTTERFLY YOU CONTINUE THE PATTERN THROUGH RING 1 AKTATTER: CHAIN UP 12 CelticDreamWeaver: I think Sharon has a picture of me and my students on her blog also AKTATTER: LOCK JOIN TOTHE BASE OF RING B skfuller: What a beautiful christening Dress Wardmon! Wally: I'll follow your blog. It looks so neat! The baby is so cute! Bless her! AKTATTER: AND THEN DO THE OPPOSITE SIDE? AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BUTTERFLY? Cynthia: my computer froze up... hope G: it is a precious namesake... WardMom: thank you Gail: k Mary Maynard: I think it will be fun CelticDreamWeaver: sounds like your computer needs a spanking CelticDreamWeaver: OL AKTATTER: OH I SEE IT TOO SHERRY Mary Maynard: or a cleaning? Clau: not now..have to read alll, but it an original pattern Sandy: I love this butterfly! Clau: like it AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO SHERRY PENCE FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US maria alcantara: . Mary Maynard: isn't it called defragging AKTATTER: AND CONGRATULATIONS ON HER THREE BOOKS Cynthia: definately it doesn't play well with others...it goes to the shop in a week printer too AKTATTER: WE HOPE TO SEE ANOTHER ONE SOON Clau: thanks sherry! AKTATTER: DEFRAGGIN LOL Mary_ND: The butterfly is Beautiful - can't wait to get to it! Suz: So this is done with one side....the attach again to do the next? WardMom: I can't wait to find all the techn iques to do this Cynthia: did that already...tech thinks it needs to be upgraded... CelticDreamWeaver: Is Sherry here in the class room? Mary_ND: Never spank a computer - just gently tap - it holds grudges Mary Maynard: more power to you WardMom AKTATTER: OK IN OUR DISCUSSION OF THE DOWN PICOT VS THE DROP PICOT VS THE INWARD FACING PICOT AKTATTER: SUE FULLER HAS STARTED A CHART FOR US hope G: I'm listening Mary_ND: The gown is worthy of the "Best WardMom: . Mary Maynard: were we looking at it earlier? I printed that one Mary_ND: Dress List" AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/sfullerpicot... AKTATTER: BEST DRESSED INDEED! CelticDreamWeaver: I love Sue Fuller's heart Cynthia: I agree Mary.... CelticDreamWeaver: it has to be one of my favorite heart patterns Wally: That's a cool chart! WardMom: She is a sweetheart skfuller: THANK YOU AKTATTER: IN YOUR TATTING IF YOU FIND PATTERNS OR PAGES THAT WILL HELP IDENTIFY WHICH TYPE OF PICOT IS BEING USED CelticDreamWeaver: Oh Sue is that YOU?? AKTATTER: LET US KNOW AND SUE WILL KEEP BUILDING THE CHART maria alcantara: . skfuller: YES ITS ME CelticDreamWeaver: I am talking about Heart's Desire pattern CelticDreamWeaver: Hiya Sue Sandy: Great chart! Thanks! hope G: k AKTATTER: NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE VINTAGE PATTERN BY GINE BRUMMER Gail: k AKTATTER: GINA BRUMMET Mary_ND: The chart looks like a great start to a great resource - I will be happy to help supply info hope G: lol AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabnc1921j... Suz: . CelticDreamWeaver: It looks like Gina is here AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/fuller.ht... CelticDreamWeaver: Hi Gina AKTATTER: THIS IS NEW GINA JUST LEARNING ALONG WITH US Gina: no, different Gina skfuller: I WANT TO MAKE SURE NOT TO OFFEND ANYONE BUT Paule from x.x.x.147 joined the chat 32 minutes ago CelticDreamWeaver: oh AKTATTER: GINA IS ENDING HER BLOG AND TAKING A SABBATICAL AKTATTER: WELCOME PAULE CelticDreamWeaver: which Gina are you? Paule: Allo everyone sorry i'mlate skfuller: COULD NOT COME UP WITH A BETTER LAST COLUMN AKTATTER: ALSO LOOK AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabrummetn... Gina: I'm a newbie AKTATTER: THAT GIVES THE DS COUNT FOR THE PATTERN Tat Pat 1 from x.x.x.95 joined the chat 31 minutes ago CelticDreamWeaver: HIya Newbie AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE MAKING THIS PATTERN ON IN ONE COLOR THREAD skfuller: NAME THAN INCONSISTENCIES TO SHOW NAMING DIFFERENCES CelticDreamWeaver: YOu can have a party with Sharon AKTATTER: YOU CAN WAIT AND THROW OFF THE CENTER RING LATER Gina: hi :) Wally: Oh no! No more Tatting Goddess? :-( Tat Pat 1: Hello, Patsy A. Goodman, Chula Vista, CA, USA karpap@cox.net AKTATTER: IF YOU WANT THE CENTER RING TO BE A SEPARATE COLOR THEN YOU WILL NEED TO DO IT FIRST AKTATTER: PATSY HOW NICE TO SEE YOU HERE WardMom: where CelticDreamWeaver: I know Wally...doesn't that seem too sad AKTATTER: YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME PAULE birch2u: hi patsy Paule: What?! AKTATTER: WELL WE DON'T WANT GINA TO BURN OUT SO I REST IS GOOD I EVEN TAKE OFF THE SUMMER TOO Paule: Throw of the center ring later?... Tat Pat 1: Sorry, as usual, I'm late AKTATTER: YES GINA BRUMMET IS ENDING HER BLOG Wally: I was thinking in doing the same, but I don't have the courage to do it. I'm too fond of the pc and the online friends AKTATTER: YES PAULE IF IT IS ALL ONE COLOR AS IN THE RIGHT HAND SAMPLE Paule: I could not get the gingerbread pattern AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/ginabnc1921j... AKTATTER: OH IT WAS MY FAVORITE ONE PLEASE TRY AGAIN OR EMAIL AND I WILL FORWARD MY COPY AKTATTER: OK MAKING THE SEPARATE CENTER RING CelticDreamWeaver: Why couldn't you get the Gingerbread pattern WardMom: . AKTATTER: BEGIN IN THE MIDDLE OF A SET OF STITCHES birch2u: Imhaving a hard time with the ginger bread pattern also CelticDreamWeaver: I think the pattern is on Tattinggoddess's list file AKTATTER: SO THERE ARE 2 DS BETWEEN EACH PICOT INTHIS CENTER RING Tat Pat 1: I found that all I got was a blank screen. Then I hit print and it printed out. Paule: It was in PDF and I couldn't open it or download it skfuller: I'm going to miss reading your blog Gina AKTATTER: TAT 1 DS ON THE RING THEN A PICOT AKTATTER: AFTER THAT 2 - FOR A TOTAL OF 8 PICOTS AKTATTER: ENDING WITH 1 DS Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 27 minutes ago WardMom: . AKTATTER: IT IS SUGGESTED THAT YOU USE THE METHOD OF TAT OVER THE TAILS TO HIDE THE END Clau: - Gail: k maria alcantara: tie & cut????? AKTATTER: FOR MORE INFO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/ends.html AKTATTER: YES MARIA IF DOING JUST ONE RING IN A SEPARATE COLOR WE END UP CUTTING ADN TYPING WardMom: k Suz: . maria alcantara: grrrrrr.... birch2u: once you learntotat overtails and find you have fewer tails to hide you wont goback AKTATTER: I AGRRRRRRRREE AKTATTER: OK THE PATTERN BEGINS ARE RING A Wally: I have ben doing that too. Save a lot of time hope G: k AKTATTER: R 2 - 2 - 4 - (VERY LONG PICOT) 4 - 2 - 2 CLOSE RING RW maria alcantara: i will use the same color or a variantage threat.....???? Wally: Hmm... Instead of the center ring I could use a pretty sequin. :-D AKTATTER: CHAIN A CH 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 RW Paule: or a big pearl AKTATTER: YES! WALLY EXCELLENT IDEA,, OR BUTTON OR A SEW ON JEWEL Sandy: k Wally: yep, or a baby button. Have tons of them Mary Maynard: I call tatting over tails encapsalation (sp) AKTATTER: RING B 2 - 2 - 4 + (JOIN TO THE LONG PICOT) 4 - 2 - 2 CLOSE RING RW WardMom: . Tat Pat 1: OK Cynthia: or antique button AKTATTER: YES THAT IS THE TRUE TERM AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/encap/encap.... Mary Maynard: button in the center sounds great AKTATTER: CHAIN A REPEATS AKTATTER: RING B REPEATS CelticDreamWeaver: Hey I just had a thought....wouldn't be great to see AK in action typing in this online class AKTATTER: CHAIN B IS THE SAME AS CHAIN A BUT Mary Maynard: can we get a cideo AKTATTER: AS IT ENDS RW AND MAKE A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN TO THE LONG PICOT ALSO CelticDreamWeaver: I am trying to picture it Mary Maynard: Video of AK AKTATTER: SO AL LTHREE RINGS AND ONE CHAIN JOIN INTO THAT SAME LONG PICOT Clau: me too celtic... Wally: :-) AKTATTER: VIDEO OF ME WITH MY TONGUE HANGING OUT CelticDreamWeaver: LOL AKTATTER: CUSSIN EVERY TIME I HAVE TO BACK SPACE TO CORREDT A TYPO Clau: jajajja CelticDreamWeaver: that is too funny!!! birch2u: lol Mary Maynard: YEAH AK !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AKTATTER: ONLY TO SEE ON THE SCREEN THAT FOR EVERY TYPO I CORRECTED I MISSED ANOTHER ONE LO WardMom: ok on the diagram, where is the long picot? Wally: I have the palmetto's tatting hand video and it's nice to see all the tatting hands. AKTATTER: OK CHAIN D Wally: *giggles* CelticDreamWeaver: Laughing here Suz: . AKTATTER: LOOK AT RING A AKTATTER: UP AND TO THE LEFT IS A GREEN PLUS SIGN hope G: k AKTATTER: THAT IS THE LONG PICOT AKTATTER: IT IS ONLY USED I NTHE FIRST SET TATTED WardMom: thks CelticDreamWeaver: I bet she looks like someone sitting in front of a grand piano...just a striking those computer keys AKTATTER: LOOK TO THE RIGHT HAND SIDE I NTHE SAME SPOT AKTATTER: THERE THE PLUS SIGN WardMom: k AKTATTER: IS MARKED AS AN INWARD FACING PICOT AKTATTER: MURDERING THE KEYS OS A MORE APT DESCRIPTION :) AKTATTER: CHAIN D Gail: k AKTATTER: 5 - 5 +(JOIN TO PICOT O NTHE CENTER RING) 5 - 5 DO NOT RW WardMom: she's encapsulated AKTATTER: AT THIS POINT YOU ADD A SPACE HOLDER ONTO THE CORE THREAD Mary Maynard: thanks for the sp " ) Wally: they are no typos. the problem is that you got a defective keyboard. AKTATTER: A PAPER CLIP OR SAFETY PIN AKTATTER: THIS HOLDS OUT A LOOP OF THE CORE THREAD AKTATTER: TO WHICH YOU WILL JOIN RING C, B AND B AND CHAIN B AL OF WHICH FOLLOW CelticDreamWeaver: Remember me telling you about having a paper clip or safty pin in your tatting bag Sharon AKTATTER: HOWEVER AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE TATTING THIS ALL IN ONE COLOR skfuller: doesn't the pattern say to hang it on the working thread? maria alcantara: . Mary Maynard: Two safety pins also work well ti undo stubbonr knots WardMom: I'll put one in in a few months when I understnd this AKTATTER: CHAIN D = CH 5 - 5 USING SH2 THROW OFF RING 2, 7 PICOTS, 2 CLOSE RING RETURN TO CHAIN 5 - 5 AKTATTER: NOW THE DIRECTION SAY 7 PICOTS Suz: . AKTATTER: BUT WE NEED 8 PICOTS ON THE CENTER RING skfuller: Wait a minute!!! AKTATTER: THE THREAD FROM SH2 IS LEFT SHOWING JUST LONG ENOUGH skfuller: doesn't the pattern say to hang it on the working thread? AKTATTER: TO MATCH THE LENGTH OF PICOTS NORMALLY ON THAT THREAD MAKING A MOC KPICOT WardMom: . AKTATTER: WORKING SHUTTLE THREAD AKTATTER: THAT MEANS IN THIS PATTERN THE CORE THREAD Gail: k CelticDreamWeaver: I am visualizing AK sractching her forhead right now AKTATTER: NOT THE WORKING THREAD ON THE LEFT HAND AKTATTER: IN THIS INSTANCE WORKING SHUTTLE THREAD WAS NOTTHE BEST CHOICE OF WORDS skfuller: Thank you Now I understand better! AKTATTER: HOPEFULLY THE WORK WE ARE DOING INTHE STUDY OF THE DOWN, DRO PINWARD FACING PICOT Cynthia: k hope G: k Wally: core thread would be better. CelticDreamWeaver: Oh look I did an AK....look at that glaring typo there in the word scratching AKTATTER: WILL HELP TO MAKE IT EASIER TO UNDERSTAND THESE TERMS AND HOW TO USE THEM Wally: lol sherry AKTATTER: YES THE CORE THREAD IS BEST TERM I AGREE skfuller: OK great - inward picot = core thread maria alcantara: G, I have to go..........sorry and thanks for the information....... Sandy: k AKTATTER: IF THE MOCK PICOT IS NEW TERM PLEASE LOOK HERE AKTATTER: http://www.gs.cornell.edu/dani/crafts/mock_pi... birch2u: . maria alcantara: see you next class..By girls, all... Clau: chau maria! Tat Pat 1: OOK birch2u: bye skfuller: Bye Maria WardMom: bye AKTATTER: THE ARROW POITNS TO IT Wally: Buenas noches Maria! Nos vemos luegito. chao Sandy: bye Mary Maynard: BYE AKTATTER: MARIA GOOD NIGHT Paule: Congratulations on your hearts Maria WardMom: I am glad we can save these links .... AKTATTER: MOCK PICOT IS JUST A SPACE OF SHUTTLE THREAD LEFT FROM BOTH SHUTTLES THAT EQUALS THE LENGTH OF A PICOT AKTATTER: YE AND THE LOG WILL BE POSTED AFTER CLASS TOO AKTATTER: OK QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERN? Gail: nope, good one Mary Maynard: Right now I think I can do both will give it a try hope G: Sharp in the white & pink CelticDreamWeaver: You might want to tell WardMom and Gina how to get the class log in case they want to either look at it or print it off AKTATTER: MARK MYERS AHS SENT IN A PATTERN WHICH SHOWS THE SPACE HOLDER ON THE CORE THREAD VERY WELL AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/myersdownwar... AKTATTER: AND YOU WILL REMEMBER THAT ALSO FROM THE SPUERBOAL SUNDAY SNOWFLAKE Mary Maynard: I have to go - have not eaten not that I need to much Wally: nice!!! Mary Maynard: TTFN AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/superbowl.html AKTATTER: NIGHT MARY GET BETTER WardMom: bye AKTATTER: SO AGAIN THIS INWARD FACING PICOT Cynthia: Nite Mary AKTATTER: IS A LOOP OF THE CORE THREAD AKTATTER: HELD OUT SO THAT IT CAN BE USED FOR JOINS LATER AKTATTER: IT IS NOT A DECORATIVE PICOT Tat Pat 1: k birch2u: bye AKTATTER: TEST WardMom: how do you get these links up there so fast? they are all open on the top of my browser ... Clau: wally, esto seria picot inverso? Sandy: k Paule: That's very clear AK AKTATTER: IF YOU CLICK O NTHEM THEY OPEN A NEW PAGE IN THIS CLASSROOM Suz: . Gail: k birch2u: what a test not ready... Wally: si clau, el ultimo que discutimos AKTATTER: TEST CAN YOU BEAD AN INWARD FACING PICOT? Clau: gracias Sandy: yes skfuller: yes birch2u: yes WardMom: no Clau: yes Paule: I think you could... Tat Pat 1: anything is possible. Mary_ND: yes AKTATTER: YES WE CAN INDEED Wally: yup skfuller: A bead prethreaded on the shuttle thread? AKTATTER: USING THE CROCHET HOOK PUT THE BEAD ON IT Gail from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 8 minutes ago AKTATTER: PULL THE THREQAD LOOP UP THRU THE BEAD AKTATTER: PULLING UP EXTRA THREAD AND THEN AKTATTER: PUT THE SPACE HOLDER ON IT Gail: yes, another of Jane's pages hope G: k AKTATTER: IT KEEPS THE LOOP THERE FOR JOINING LATER birch2u: hence adding a bead with out prethreading AKTATTER: AND THE BEAD IS IN PLACE AKTATTER: RIGHT ON! Sandy: Also, you can feed a bead on with a floss threader that has been split skfuller: of hope G: and picot measured skfuller: OK Gail: cool WardMom: hmmmmm Clau: when we add a bead on a split ring.. we also use this picot, right? i see it in jane eborall site Paule: would be nice on that sbowflake AKTATTER: SHAROH LOOK AT MARK'S PAGE hope G: lol I always loose the split floss threader AKTATTER: SEE THE PAPER CLIP WITH THE THREAD AROUND IT AKTATTER: IF YOU PULLED OUT MORE THREAD AKTATTER: YOU SIMPLY SLIDE THE BEAD ON Wally: floss threaders are wonderful lil tatting helpers! AKTATTER: THEN PUT ON THE PAPERCLIP Sandy: I also like to use coiless safety pins but they are hard to find. AKTATTER: OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? Suz: . AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO SHERRY PENCE GINA BRUMMET SUE FULLER MARK MYERS FOR SHARING THEIR WORK WITH US TONGIHT hope G: Great Class !!! Wally: I used tha method with a pendant I made today http://picasaweb.google.es/wallysosa/NeedlesN... birch2u: thankx Sandy: Totally off topic. Anyone know of a tatter near Pocatello Idaho? skfuller: I've been trying to find some of those coiless pins Wally: putting a paper clip to hold the picot with the beads AKTATTER: THANKS IT WAS INTERESTING DISCDUSSION OF THE PICOT WardMom: thank you all. AKTATTER: LOOK IN THE QUILTERS RACK OF GOODIES Gina: you can sometimes get them from knitting supppy stores onlinue Clau: thanks for the class AKTATTER: BTW WE SURPASSED OUR FUNDRAISING GOAL FOR THE ONLINE TATING CLASS Gail: always learn something new :-) Cynthia: checkin the jewelery and quilt areas for the coilless pins Sandy: I found some pins at Joanns that are used to put buttons on so they are shaped funny but work. Wally: Georgia... OT I think the book sna d quilt block was sent back to you. I didn't got them. AKTATTER: THE CLASS I SECURE ONLINE UNTIL JUNE 25! AKTATTER: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR HJELPING Gail: Sue check knitting sites for pins Sandy: Also, the bead section has them but they are not the small ones. hope G: Yes!! Way to go!! birch2u: you can also use knitting stitch markers AKTATTER: AH WALL THAT IS TOO BAD skfuller: I'll try the stitch markers Thanks Sandy: I had some knit stitch markers but mine were too fat. Tat Pat 1: ok AKTATTER: IF IT COMES BACK I WILL TRY AGAIN Suz: Nite all....I am off to try some new patterns of homework! birch2u: yea gotta becareful bout that Cynthia: alan click the join room...or join chat Clau: have to go.. thanks g! nite all!!! AKTATTER: ALSO I AM OFFICIALLY OUT OF PATTERNS AFTER NEXT WEEK SO IF YOU HAVE IDEAS OR PATTERNS TO SHARE AKTATTER: WE ALWAYS ARE GRATEFUL FOR THEM WardMom: bye AKTATTER: NIGHT CLAUDIA AKTATTER: NIGHT SUZ Wally: yes, let me know. I was itching to get those new books on my hands. :-( Sandy: Thank you! Night all. hope G: night all AKTATTER: OK THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TONIGHT Clau: chau wally.. Gina: thanks for the class AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING ALL :) Cynthia: nite everyone.... Gail: Night, all birch2u: thankx WardMom: So after this, where is this posted? AKTATTER: YOU ARE MOST WELCOME ALL Wally: chaito clau. g' night y'all! Gina: see you thurs cynthia AKTATTER from x.x.x.144 left the chat 74 seconds ago skfuller: Good night to you all birch2u: bye... Cynthia: Alan I can stay Gina: night y'all Gail: Sharon it will be on ak's site "lesson log" Cynthia: nite gina Mary_ND: thanks! Created at Chatzy.com