http://www.palmettotatters.org/patterns/StandardTattingNotationforPTGTatDays.pdf 

http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/downward_picot/downward_picot.html
http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/bead-on-downward_picot/bead-on-downward_picot.html

http://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.com/

http://www.be-stitched.com/files/1002flower.pdf

http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/jconnorsmignonette.html

http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/NeedlecraftMag1925Aprmignonettebonnetdir.jpg
http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/NeedlecraftMag1925Aprmignonettebonnet.jpg dtl

http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/fuller.html

http://needles-n-shuttles.com/ChenilleBookmark.aspx


http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/hansonbfly.html

http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/doxie-update-bead-on-downward-facing-picot/
http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/downward_picot/downward_picot.html
http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/bead-on-downward_picot/bead-on-downward_picot.html

http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/DownPicot.pdf
http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Doodles1.pdf
http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/Doodles2.pdf

In honor of my birthday I have posted the Needlecraft Handbook of Tatting. Now let's all celebrate!
See you in class Monday March 1, 2010 3PM or 8:30PM ET (New York time)

http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nchandbookoftatting/handbk1.jpg

for the other pages replace the number 1 with numbers 2 through 23.
23 pages in all


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AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 cleared the room 7 hours ago
AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 joined the chat 7 hours ago
AnneB: Hi Georgia! And happy birthday one day late!
picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 7 hours ago
AnneB: Hi Melanie!
picotsnkeys: I wish you a happy birthday also Georgia!
AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 joined the chat 7 hours ago
picotsnkeys: Hi Anne!
AKTATTER: hello there! and thanks!
picotsnkeys: I set my needles aside to try my hand at a pattern I gave up on last spring (a year ago)
AnneB: Knitting needles and tatting pattern?
picotsnkeys: if no one shows with needle tatting questions, may I ask one on this pattern?
picotsnkeys: tatting needles
picotsnkeys: I fail at knitting. My daughter power knits, so we have warm hats this winter
AnneB: LOL
AnneB: power knits?
picotsnkeys: yes. I've never seen someone knit this fast!
picotsnkeys: Even the actress that plays Miss Marple on BBC!
AnneB: Wow!
AKTATTER: sure mel go ahead
picotsnkeys: The question is on the Two HEarts as One design by Martha Ess
AKTATTER: link or book?
picotsnkeys: I got it from an old class on your site, from 2002, but that's all I have for where it came from. sorry
Elipand from x.x.x.165 joined the chat 7 hours ago
Elipand: Hello
picotsnkeys: Hi Elipand!
AnneB: Hi Elipand
Elipand: Hi
AKTATTER: ok let me look
AnneB: Two hearts in celtic style?
Elipand: Happy birthday Georgia
AKTATTER: www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/essceltic.htm
picotsnkeys: yes, do you remember it Anne?
AKTATTER: thanks Panda
AKTATTER: what a wondeful pattern that was
picotsnkeys: yes, that's it!
AKTATTER: ok I have it up on screen
AnneB: That's the one I was thinking of
Elipand: where is it?
picotsnkeys: when I'm working chains (the back side facing me), and it says that threads are to be in back, is that the side facing me, or just behind where I'm working?
AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 sent out an invitation 7 hours ago
AnneB: www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/essceltic.htm
AKTATTER: ok let me think
picotsnkeys: yeah, I did that and strained my brain....! lol
AnneB: I'd have to tat it to be able to reply LOL
Rosemarie from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 7 hours ago
Rosemarie: Hi All
picotsnkeys: Hi Rosemarie!
AnneB: Hi Rosemarie!
AKTATTER: welcome Rosemarie
picotsnkeys: If either you or Elipand have a needle question, I'll take a back seat, since this IS needle tatting question time
AKTATTER: lol ok I see what you mean
AKTATTER: for I what see
Elipand from x.x.x.165 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Elipand: No thanks
AKTATTER: the work in your hands should be on the back side of the piece
AKTATTER: it is a matter of checking
AKTATTER: if the dark threads go before or under the light threads in each case
picotsnkeys: that's what I thought.
picotsnkeys: Sigh
AKTATTER: or whether the shuttles pass through an element so that the proper color can be in the right position
AKTATTER: and you need to be aware
picotsnkeys: That means I made a mistake at the beginning of Round 2.
AKTATTER: that the direction os each pass through is important
picotsnkeys: Now to decide if I want to just start over, cut out, or what..... lol
AKTATTER: either front to back ftb or back to front btf
AKTATTER: as that manipulates the position in which the threads lay for the next segment
Elipand: k
picotsnkeys: I think this is one instance where front/back side tatting makes it easier
AKTATTER: mel did yu print off the pattern in color or black and white?
picotsnkeys: no, I spent the $$ and used the color ink
Rosemarie: k
AKTATTER: thank goodness htat is one pattern where it really counted
AKTATTER: ok Panda and Rosemaire any questions?
picotsnkeys: I think I'll start again. Thank you Georgia!
Rosemarie: no questions
Susan from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 sent out an invitation 6 hours ago
AnneB: Hi Susan
AKTATTER: welcome Susan
Susan: hi all. Happy Day after your Birthday Georgia!
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: mel type your email pls
AKTATTER: thanks so much Susan :)
picotsnkeys: picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com
Susan: hope it was a great B-day
Elipand: elipand,TN,elipand@gmail.com
skfuller from x.x.x.162 joined the chat 6 hours ago
skfuller: hi everyone
Elipand: hi
picotsnkeys: brb phone
Susan: hi
AKTATTER: Susan hello!
AnneB: Hi Sue!
AKTATTER: mel I just sent you a detail of the center of the celtic heart, try enlarging it and it might help you figure the light/dark better
AKTATTER: everything ok sue, are we still on for a lesson?
skfuller: well I'm not sure how pulled together I am
skfuller: Did you see my email fromo last night?
AKTATTER: just read it
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: shall we do the lesson next week? or the 15th?
Rosemarie: k
Susan: .
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: Anne I just got the paypal message. Many thanks for your help.
AnneB: YW :-)
AKTATTER: any questions on needle tatting, any general questions?
AKTATTER: did you all get the booklet downloaded?
skfuller: maybe we should start today- right now I can pull up the links I'm using
Elipand: No thanks
Elipand: Very precious book.Thanks
Susan: I could not get anything other than pg 1
AnneB: Booklet?
AKTATTER: the Needlecraft Handbook of Tatting
Rosemarie: I would have had to download each page seperately - would have taken forever
AKTATTER: ok this is the book cover: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nchandbook...
AKTATTER: after that copy and paste and change the page number.
AKTATTER: there are 23 pages http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nchandbook...
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nchandbook...
AKTATTER: got the idea ok?
AKTATTER: I hear one page is upside down, you can rotate that in your graphics viewer and save it
Susan: that's where I ran into trouble...said page could not be found
Elipand: Is there a bonnet pattern for an adult?
AnneB: There is no way I can resist old patterns...
AKTATTER: and I am told that one page is missin which I wil lcheck on
AKTATTER: try clicking on it now susan
AKTATTER: for an adult?
Susan: ok, will do
AKTATTER: the only info I have on making a mob cap for an adult was for a tatter doing reenacting
picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Susan: yes, your links are working
AKTATTER: she just took a wide doily and ran a ribbon around it about 2" in from the edge and gathered it
Susan: I'll try the next page
Rosemarie: The pages ares comming up a lot faster today, though.
AKTATTER: ok sue we can start today on that
Elipand: Thanks
picotsnkeys: I got the email Georgia. Thanks. That will help.
AKTATTER: great
Gina from x.x.x.74 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: welcome jane and gina
Gina: hi
AnneB: Hi Gina!
Gina: thank you
Susan from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: wb susan
Elipand: k
Gina: I am in the beginner class starting Thursday but it was suggested I "sit in" on this class too
AKTATTER: any needle tatting questions?
Susan: thanks
Susan: none, ta
picotsnkeys: Welcome Gina!
Elipand: none
Gretta from x.x.x.76 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: welcome gretta
AnneB: Hi Gretta!
Gina: thanks
Gretta: Hi, glad I could be here today.
AKTATTER: me too
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: you know it is only 20 days until spring begins?
picotsnkeys: k
Susan: .
picotsnkeys: spring has sprung here!
AKTATTER: or autumn for our tatters down under the equator
Rosemarie: k
Susan: I wish!
Gretta: I can hardly wait. Sure been colder than normal in central Alabama
Elipand: would there be spring break?
mjb from x.x.x.242 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: sure gina find a good seat and get comfy ask any questions you want
Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago
picotsnkeys: I still have about 10 hours of weeding after a weekend of work! ugh!
Cynthia: Hi
mjb: Hello everyone
Gina: okay thanks :)
picotsnkeys: Hi Cynthia and Mary Jane
AnneB: If you count the return of the sun as spring, I've had spring for a month :-)
mjb: Hi Picotsnkeys
Susan: all my weeds are under 2 feet of snow
AKTATTER: a break is not planned so far
AKTATTER: ooh way to go anne positive thinking
Elipand: ok,thanks
AKTATTER: hi ya Mjb
AnneB: Still a cuple of months befor the snow starts melting though...
AKTATTER: hi cyn
AnneB: Hi Mary Jane
mjb: Hello AnneB and Georgia
picotsnkeys: brb
AKTATTER: 6 minutes opne chat continues
Dorcas Ann from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Dorcas Ann: Good to see you, Mary Jane
AnneB: Hi Dorcas
JaneEb from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Dorcas Ann: Hi, AnneB
JaneEb: Hi folks
mjb: Hello Dorcas.,
AnneB: Hi Jane
picotsnkeys: Hi Dorcas and Jane
mjb: Hi Jane
Dorcas Ann: Hi, picotsnkeys
Dorcas Ann: and Jane
Raelara from x.x.x.178 joined the chat 6 hours ago
picotsnkeys: Georgia, I think I found the missing page: page 17 link actually shows page 18
picotsnkeys: Hi Jenni
AnneB: Hi Jenni
Raelara: hello
mjb: Hi Jenni
AKTATTER: oh! so we are misnumbered?
mjb: My company didn't come., so can go to class
AnneB: And 18 shows 19
AKTATTER: hi ya dorcas and jenni
picotsnkeys: from page 18 on
Dorcas Ann: Hi, AK
AKTATTER from x.x.x.128 sent out an invitation 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: ok i fyou know a tatter who would like to be her but may have forgotten the time
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: please use the invite people button on the top left of the screen and invite them to join us
picotsnkeys: k
Elipand: k
Cynthia: On mine it does not have a page 17 anywhere...page 16 is 16 page 17 is 18, 19 is 20,,,,,
Rosemarie: k
Raelara: G, would you like a pdf made of this handbook?
Gina: yes I noticed that too
AKTATTER: so we misnumbered
Raelara: I may be able to import the pages into SerifDraw and put them all in one file
Gina: me?
Cynthia: I think it may be a missed page too
AKTATTER: Jenni, I don't know, my website host is complaing about the large pdfs that I have and I have been copyinjg each page and reposting as a jpg s I go along. It says space she says
AKTATTER: But i know that it is possible to make pdfs that are compressed I just don't know how to do it. Can you do that?
AKTATTER: ok let's get started please sign in
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL. COM GREENUP ILLINIOS USA
mjb: Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana. USA
skfuller: hi JaneEb, Do you mind if we look at your down picot intructions today?
Gretta: Gretta Wilhite, Crane Hill, Alabama, USA
Dorcas Ann: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA Dntats4u@aol.com
Raelara: I can try. I will see what I can do
AKTATTER: OK THANKS JENNI
Susan: Susan Cuss, susancuss@yahoo.com, McArthurs Mills, Ontario
picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los Gatos, CA USA
Elipand: elipand,TN,elipand@gmail.com
Raelara: Jenni Sherriff, raelara at gmail.com San Lorenzo, CA, USA
skfuller: Sue Fuller Loveland CO rlskfuller@comcast.net
AKTATTER: OK THE FIRST THING TODAY IS A VISIT TO WALLY SOSA'S WEBSITE
Gina: Gina Shillitani deastrega@yahoo.com, Tampa, FL USA
AKTATTER: http://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.com/
AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway, solurab @ online.no
AKTATTER: WALLY HAS POSTED ABOUT A UNIQUE PICOT GAUGE
Rosemarie: Rosemarie Weber, Baltimore, MD, USA rweb53@verizon.net
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK brasthatfit@yahoo.com
AKTATTER: JUST VIEW THE LITTLE VIDEO
AKTATTER: AT THE TOP
AKTATTER: NO AUDIO
Mary_ND from x.x.x.54 joined the chat 6 hours ago
AKTATTER: IT IS A PIECE OF PLASTIC FOLDED IN HALF
AKTATTER: WELCOME MARY PLEASE SING
AKTATTER: IN
AKTATTER: USED NORMALLY AT FIRST
Mary_ND: Hi all, Sorry Late - Mary Baumler, Fargo North Dakota USA, MaryReneeEng@gmail.com
AKTATTER: BUT AS SHE CLOSED A HALF CLOSED RING SHE DROPPED THE FOLDED GAUGE OVER THE RING THREAD
AKTATTER: AND IT STAYS THERE WHILE THE RING IS CLOSED
AKTATTER: AND YOU CAN DO THE SAME THING WHEN MEASURING THE BLANK THREAD SPACE BETWEEN MIGNONETTE RINGS
skfuller: What a wonderful guage!
AKTATTER: GLAD YOU MADE IT MARY
Cynthia: interesting and useful
AKTATTER: ABSOLUTELY CLEVER!
Mary_ND: Thanks - I can't wait to look at the guage
AKTATTER: SUE ARE YOU READY? SHALL i INTRODUCE?
skfuller: yes
Raelara: brilliant!
AKTATTER: OK SUE FULLER HAS BEEN STUDYING TATTING NOTATION AND HAS SOME COMMENTS TO SHARE TODAY ESPECIALLY ABOUT
AKTATTER: THE DROP PICOT WHICH WE HAVE BEEN DISCUSSING ONLINE THIS WEEK
Rosemarie: Wow! That's really a great idea.
AKTATTER: COME SUE fULLER
picotsnkeys: k
skfuller: HERE i AM
skfuller: AFTER LOOKING AT THE sUE h'S BUTTERFLY
Susan: hi Sue
skfuller: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/hansonbfly.h...
skfuller: hI ALL
AKTATTER: WE ALL REMEMBER SUE FULL ER FROM HER BOOK " A POTPOURRI OF TATTING PATTERSN"
AKTATTER: AND HER LOVELY "HEART'S DESIRE" PATTERN
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/fuller.ht...
AKTATTER: K
Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago
skfuller: i USED WHAT I CONSIDERED VICTORIAN SETS
AKTATTER: WB CYN
Cynthia: sorry dropped a book on the computer....and zapped me off
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: VICTORIAN SETS ALSO CALLED NODE STITCH AND RICK RACK TATTING
skfuller: WITH A PICOT CENTERED BETWEEN THE 2 HALVES
AKTATTER: K
skfuller: IN MY BOOK BUT DIDN'T GIVE IT ANOTHER NAME
Raelara: Is there an advantage to doing it that way, versus just putting a marker in the spot?
AKTATTER: AH SUE MAY GET TO THAT ALSO BUT IT CHANGES WHERE AND HOW THE PICOTS STANDS UP/OUT
picotsnkeys: k
AKTATTER: K
skfuller: RIGHT, BUT ISN'T THIS WHAT SUE H CALLS A DROP PICOY?
mjb: j
AKTATTER: WELL LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT SUE'S PAGE AND JANE DIDN'T YOU DO A DIAGRAM FOR THIS PICOT ALSO?
skfuller: AND JANE EBORALL AS WELL AS THE PALMETTO GUILDCALLS A DOWN PICOT
skfuller: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Down... http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Dood...
JaneEb: Sorry, wandered off cat hunting
skfuller: http://www.palmettotatters.org/patterns/Stand...
JaneEb: Use whatever you like
Rosemarie from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 6 hours ago
skfuller: i DON'T HAVE MY PAGES SCANNED
Rosemarie: Oops - got lost for a second
Elipand: k
JaneEb: The only thing I can add is that Martha and I have discussed and shared about drop picots and decided that they only need 2 first half and 2 second half ds's to acheive a good result - not a full Victorian set!
picotsnkeys: light bulb just turned on! HAppy dance!!!!
AKTATTER: OK I RECOMMEND THAT EVERYONE GO TO THOSE 3 LINKS AND PRINT OFF THE PAGES AS WELL AS DOWNLOAD THEMTO YOUR COMPUTER
vingerhoedje from x.x.x.247 joined the chat 6 hours ago
Raelara: I see the difference now. Gonna have to adapt my manger pattern now
vingerhoedje: hello everione
AKTATTER: OK THE DROP PICOT TERM IS ALSO JUST FOR OTHER PICOT METHODS ISN'T IT SUE?
vingerhoedje: aktatter, a bit late, but HAPPY BIRTHDAY
AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH
AKTATTER: PLEAS SIGN IN
vingerhoedje: vingerhoedje from etten-leur the netherlands
vingerhoedje: marco
mjb: Oh My gosh., I forgot to wish you a Happy Birthday Georgia
skfuller: wHAT DO YOU MEAN BY OTHER PICOT METHODS?
AKTATTER: http://www.palmettotatters.org/patterns/Stand...
vingerhoedje: i cannot open pdf files now
AKTATTER: WELL MARK MYERS HAS ANOTHER WAY TO MAKE A DROP PICOT, HE MAKES THE PICOT, FOLDS IT DOWN AND TATS OVER IT
vingerhoedje: t are installing everithing new on the laptop
AKTATTER: LOOK HERE http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/d...
AKTATTER: AND FOR BEADING IT
AKTATTER: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/b...
skfuller: oH i SEE
vingerhoedje: thanks
AKTATTER: HIS PATTERN USING IT
skfuller: SINCE SUE'S BUTTERFLY ONLY HAS 2 FIRST HALVES
granny from x.x.x.201 left this message 6 hours ago:
hi, sorry to be late, hubbins is home sick today, really throws me off!
AKTATTER: WELCOME GRANNY GLAD YOU MADE IT
AKTATTER: SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM AND CLICK ON JOIN CHAT PLEASE
granny from x.x.x.201 left this message 6 hours ago:
Rene' from Alameda, CA
and Happy birthday again!
AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH IT IS VERY KIND OF EVERYONE TO REMEMBER
Raelara: Alameda! Wow, you are close to me!
granny from x.x.x.201 joined the chat 6 hours ago
skfuller: AND 2 SECOND HALVES ITS THE SAME AS JANES DOWN PICOT
skfuller: ISN'T IT?
AKTATTER: AH HA! THAT'S WHY WE ASK FOR HOMETOWNS IN THE SIGN I WHO KNOWS WHEN A TATTER MIGHT BE YOUR NEXT DOOR NEIGHBOR!
Raelara: pretty much ...
AKTATTER: 2X 1HS AND 2X 2HS MAKES PICOT IN FRONT
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: 2X 2HS AND 2X 1HS MAKES PICOT IN BACK
vingerhoedje: that would be fun, a tatting neigbour
Mary_ND: k
vingerhoedje: haha
skfuller: TOWARDS BODY RIGHT?
AKTATTER: BUT OTHERS TATTERS HAVE USED A MORE DIRECT METHOD LIKE pATSY:
granny: really? I don't know where you are?
AKTATTER: But isn't that where you make a picot the regular way, then take a crochet hook and bring the picot to the down position, so it is facing down instead of up
Raelara: San Lorenzo
Raelara: Right on the Hayward border
AKTATTER: AND OTHERS HAVE SAID THAT THE DROP PICOT AND INWARD FACING PICOT ARE THE SAME TOO
AKTATTER: THE INWARD FACING PICOT COULD JUST BE A LOOP HELD OUT
granny: can we connect after class?
AKTATTER: AS INMAKING A SELF CLOSING MOCK RING
picotsnkeys: when I tried the crochet hook method, the loop wasn't staying in place. Hints?
skfuller: A LOOP OF WHICH THREAD?
Raelara: sure, Granny!
AKTATTER: OR HELD OUT WITH A SPACE HOLDER TO MAKE A SPOT TO WHICH TO JOIN A FOLLOWING TATTED ELEMENT
AKTATTER: THE CORE THREAD
AKTATTER: HINT MEL? DON'T USE THAT METHOD, DO THE HALF STITCH THINGY
Raelara: When I used it for my manger I just used a paperclip to keep a space of core thread loose, then joined to that
picotsnkeys: like for the butterfly pattern we did last Thursday
Raelara: I like the victorian sets method better, gonna specify that in the pattern instead
granny: paper clips help me too
Susan: k
AKTATTER: AND SUE SENT THIS MESSAG
AKTATTER: That drop picot is as per described in the Elgiva Nicholls books :-) It is a great tech because it don't break the line of the heads/wasteband of the line of tatting and can be applied to both rings and chains. Plus it can be place in front or behind the work. Technically it is a version of Victorian sets using half stitches.
AKTATTER: AND REFERED US TO JANE'S DIAGRAMS AS WE SAW ABOVE
skfuller: OK SO COULDN'T WE JUST USE "DROP PICOT" FOR THE ONE USING THE CORE THREAD
Elipand: k
Raelara: have another name for each of the other two types?
picotsnkeys: gonna have to practise that.....
AKTATTER: AND SOME TATTERS CALL AN INWARD FACING PICOT, NOT MADE WITH THE CORE THREAD, A DROP PICOT ALSO AS IT IS ON ETHE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE LINE OF PROGRESSION. THIS PICOT IS MADE BY TATTING 1HS AND BY NOT FLIPPING THE 2HS, LOCKING UP THE THREAD
skfuller: AND CALL SUE'S AND JANES DOWN PICOTS (ALSO PALMETTOS)
granny: k
Raelara: both drop picots and victorian set styel down picots make a divot in the work ... they end up looking exactly the same
Rosemarie from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 5 hours ago
AKTATTER: SINCE THEY ALL INVOLVE THE CORE THREAD, I SAY YES!
skfuller: YESS THEY DO RAELARA
Raelara: nice to know a name for it though
vingerhoedje: .
AKTATTER: OK DID YOU HAVE MORE FOR US sUE?
skfuller: WAIT A MINUTE, VS (VICTORIAN SETS ACCORDING TO sHUTTLEBIRDS)
Elipand: k
Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 hours ago
AKTATTER: K
skfuller: DON'T INVOLVE THE CORE THREAD
picotsnkeys: k
granny: k
skfuller: ITS THE CHAIN THREAD ISN'T IT?
Cynthia: sorry my computer froze up on me
AKTATTER: HMMMMMM
Raelara: yeah, the VS style makes the picot out of the chain thread, not the core
Raelara: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Down...
AKTATTER: OH YOU ARE RIGHT
skfuller: AND SEEMS TO ME THAT SUE'S DROP PICOT IN BACK
AKTATTER: WELL THEN IF ONLY THE CORE THREAD IS USED, = INWARD FACING PICOT
granny: that last diagram really helped me see it
vingerhoedje: i will save all of this
AKTATTER: USING THE WORKING THREAD = DROP PICOT
AKTATTER: DOES THAT SUM IT UP?
skfuller: IS JUST A VICTORIAN SET DONE IN REVERSE ORDER (RDS OR RODS?)
picotsnkeys: is that like the dimpled chain in TAT?
AnneB: Yes - but now to remember...
vingerhoedje: aktatter, i just wanted to say , we have a grandson
skfuller: CORE THREAD INWARD FACING PICOT ok
vingerhoedje: or did i tell you that already
Cynthia: congrats to the new extended family
Elipand: k
JaneEb: Could I just point out that this home page is the best one to work from for my site. That other one (globalnet) is now never updated and I can't delete it - BUMMER
vingerhoedje: thanks
AKTATTER: OH MARCO CONGRATULATIONS! i HOPE MOM AN DBABE ARE DOING WELL!
skfuller: I THINK USUALLY A DIMPLE HAD A JOIN IN IT
vingerhoedje: yes the baby is great
AnneB: Congratulations vingerhoedje
AKTATTER: OK JANE PLS GIVE THE LINK
AKTATTER: THE GOOD ONE
vingerhoedje: m is coming there soon i hope
Raelara: My shuttle from Jane just got here!!!!!
granny: babies give us new perspective
JaneEb: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/
vingerhoedje: thank you, it is a lovely boy
vingerhoedje: an i LOVE HIM
skfuller: YES LOVE GRANDBABIES!
vingerhoedje: this is our first one
granny: Thank you Jane
skfuller: THOUGH THE YOUNGEST OF MY 7 WILL BE 5 NEXT MONTH
skfuller: AND THE OLDEST IS 14
vingerhoedje: ok
Mary_ND: Congratulations Vingerhoedje
AKTATTER: OK http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/Doodles1.pd...
skfuller: tHANKS JANE
Rosemarie: k
picotsnkeys: I see, the one method has a join, the other method didn't
AKTATTER: AND http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/Doodles2.pd...
vingerhoedje: i have to go, i am going to mij bed
Raelara: THANKS for the shuttle Jane, It's gorgeous!
AKTATTER: NIGHTERS MARCO
Raelara: I'm going to need another one now!
vingerhoedje: bye all
vingerhoedje: ee you next time
AnneB: Good night!
AKTATTER: OK WE SHOULD MAKE A LIST OF PATTERNS WHICH ILLUSTRATE THE DIFFERENT PICOTS AND STUDY THEM NEXT WEEK ALSO i THINK.
vingerhoedje: bye
Susan: bye
Cynthia: good night
AKTATTER: DID YOU HAVE MORE FOR US SUE?
Raelara: good idea, G
skfuller: SOUNDS GOOD AK
granny: yes
Mary_ND: Yes, I want to try the methods so I have some actual experience
Dorcas Ann: thank you, this was very helpful
skfuller: SEEMS LIKE ENOUGH FOR TODAY
Raelara: Granny, are you on facebook?
granny: no
AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH SUE FOR THIS IMPROMPTU LOOK AT THIS HOT TOPIC THIS WEEK.
picotsnkeys: thank you!!! I see the light!
granny: can I leave my email here?
skfuller: IF WE ALL LOOK AT PATTERNS
AnneB: Thanks Sue!
Susan: thank you, Sue
AKTATTER: WE DO HAVE A PATTERN FOR TODAY, IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO CONTINUE?
Cynthia: I'll be back tonight. and I copied this session...my computer really didn't like having the book dropped on the keyboard...it is doing okay but I get odd things happening...
skfuller: NEXT WEEK WE COULD TALD COULD WE ALL THINK ABOUT
Cynthia: bye
Mary_ND: yes
AKTATTER: GOOD IDEA SUE
AKTATTER: BYE CYN
skfuller: THE DIFFERENT WAYS TO WRITE THESE OUT IN PATTERN
AKTATTER: OK I FYOU WANT TO CONTINUE TODAY HERE IS THE LINK
AnneB: Bye Cynthia!
picotsnkeys: bye Cynthia
Raelara: what is the pattern for today G?
skfuller: AND WHAT MOST LIKE BEST?
picotsnkeys: Will that list be on the class site?
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/jconnorsmign...
AKTATTER: REMIND ME AND i WILL ADD IT TO THE LINKS FOR NEXT WEEK
mjb: j
AKTATTER: WE HVAE ONE MORE STEP IN OUR STUDY OF MIGNONETTE TATTING
Raelara: ooh, pretty
AKTATTER: THERE ARE TWO PAGES TO PRINT OUT
granny: k
Rosemarie: k
AKTATTER: THESE TWO PAGES ARE FROM JUDTIH CONNROS BOOK TATTING ADVENTURES WITH BEADS, SHUTTLES AND NEEDLES
AKTATTER: AND IS USED WITH HER PERMISSION
AKTATTER: NOW WHEN YOU GO TO TRY THIS ONE
AKTATTER: BE SURE TO MAKE THAT NEAT GAUGE WE SAW ON WALLY'S PAGE TODAY
AKTATTER: THAT IDEA IS A KEEPER http://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.com/
AKTATTER: PG 65 SHOWS THE FINISHED MIGNONETTE STRIP
Raelara: yes, it is
AKTATTER: AND PG 66 SHOWS THE DIAGRAM
Raelara: I just need to find a good piece of plastic to make it out of
AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK CLOSELY AT THE DIAGRAM
granny: k
AKTATTER: LAST ROW AT BOTTOM LAST RING AT LEFT
AKTATTER: jUDITH'S NOTE ABOVE TELLS THAT WE CAN INCREASE THE SIZE
AKTATTER: BY INCREASING THE LENGTH OF BARE THREAD SPACE BETWEEN RINGS
AKTATTER: BY INCREASING THE NUMBER OF RINGS
AKTATTER: AND SHE GOES FURTHER AND MENTIONS
AKTATTER: HOW TO CLIMB FROM ROW TO ROW USING THE TAIL
AKTATTER: AND MAKING SPLIT RINGS
AKTATTER: IN HER DIAGRAM THAT BOTTOM RING AT LEFT HAS A LINE THROUGH IT
Raelara: Interesting that she mentions putting it on a shuttle instead of just finger tatting it
AKTATTER: THAT IS THE SPLIT RING
AKTATTER: I THINK IT WOULD BE HANDY BUT FINGER TATTING IS OK TOO
AKTATTER: FOLLOW THE SPLIT RINGS UP TO THE RIGHT
AKTATTER: SEE HOWTHE CLIMB OUT WAS DONE?
Raelara: yeah
AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO JUDITH FOR SHARING THESE TIPS
AKTATTER: SO
AKTATTER: WE KNOW TO MAKE MIGNONETTE IT IS BEST TO USE FINE THREAD
AKTATTER: TINY RINGS
AKTATTER: AND TEH BARE THREAD SPACE NEEDS TO BE REGULAR IN LENGTH
AKTATTER: AND TEH RING SHOULD MORE ON THE BARE THREAD SPACE
Mary_ND: Yes
Mary_ND: Yes
Raelara: yeah
AKTATTER: ONE LAST POINT TO PONDER
granny: k
Raelara: what thread size do you advise, G?
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Elipand: k
AKTATTER: MAKING THE TINY RINGS ALSO FORM A PATTERN
Mary_ND: what's considered fine - thread size?
AKTATTER: 40 OR FINER JENNI
Raelara: ah
picotsnkeys: ?
AKTATTER: FINEST = 60-100
Raelara: I have 40, that's good
Rosemarie: k
Raelara: I have some 80 in yellow
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/NeedlecraftM...
Raelara: wow
mjb: I figured 80
AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE ANTIQUE CAP FROM NEEDLE CRAFT MAMAGAZINE 1925 APRL
AKTATTER: DID YOU SPOT IT?
picotsnkeys: k
mjb: Neat.,
AKTATTER: THE TINY RINGS TOWARD THE OUTER EDGE
Raelara: in the tree shape?
AKTATTER: AER BUNCHED TO FORM A PATTERN
AKTATTER: FIRST SET = 4, NEXT ROW = 3
Raelara: I like it
Susan: looks like grapes
granny: so delicate
AKTATTER: NEXT LINE 2 RINGS AND LOST LINE 1 RING AGAIN
AKTATTER: YES IT DOES!
Elipand: k
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/NeedlecraftM...
AKTATTER: NOW CHECK OUT THE DIRECTIONS PAGE
AKTATTER: ANOTHER CAP AT THE BOTTOM
AKTATTER: THERE IT IS ALTERNATING TRIANGLES FORMED BY THE TINS
AKTATTER: OK I ADMIT, I WAS IMPRESSED
Raelara: definitely impressive
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON IT?
skfuller: can't even imagine how long these took to design!
Susan: is this sized for a child or adult, do you know?
AKTATTER: BABY SIZES
Susan: neat
Gina: I have questions but I'll wait till I have some idea what I'm doing to ask LOL
Raelara: lol
granny: my mother in law had one made for her as a baby by the nearby convent
AKTATTER: SURE GINA BUT i AM GLAD YOU CAME AND GOT A FEEL FOR THE LESSONS THE BEGINNERS CLASS MOVES MORE SLOWLY ALSO
Gina: I did do the drop picot on my shuttle using the 2 half stitches, picot, 2 half stitches
Gina: while y'all were talking about it
AKTATTER: HOW DID IT LOOK GINA?
AKTATTER: WHILE WE WERE STUDYING PICOTS TODAY A PATTERN FROM NANCY A BESTITCHED CAME IN
AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/files/1002flower.p...
Elipand: k
skfuller: did you do it with 2 first halves p then 2 secoind halves?
Gina: well the picot is under the row so I guess I did it right>
Gina: yes
AKTATTER: BE SURE TO SIGN UP FOR HER NEWSLETTER WHILE YOU ARE AT THE SITE
AKTATTER: WAY TO GO!!
Raelara: I was impressed with that flower
Raelara: ite ingenious
granny: thanks
AKTATTER: THE RINGS HAVE THE PICOTS AND ONE OF THEM IS SMALL
Gina: I'm glad I came :)
skfuller: the way I remember which halves twist which direction
AKTATTER: THAT IS WHERE THE CHAINS ATTACH AS YOU GO AROUND
AKTATTER: IT IS THE LONG PICOTS ON THE FLOWER THAT ARE SNIPPED
AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE BRAVE
AKTATTER: PUT A PIECE OF PAPPER
AKTATTER: UNDER THE CUT PICOTS
AKTATTER: AND USE A TOOTHBRUSH
AKTATTER: PREFERABLY AND UNUSED ONE :)
AKTATTER: AND BRUSH THE PICOTS UNTIL FLUFFY
Gina: LOL
skfuller: is tat 2 first halves then 2 second halves makes a V pointed towards the body
Susan: lol
AKTATTER: THIS IS A GOOD TECHNIQUE TO USE ON THE BEARD OF A TATTED IRIS ALSO
AKTATTER: FIRST HS FIRST MAKES PICOT DROP TO THE FRONT
picotsnkeys: or the wings of a bird?
AKTATTER: SECOND HS FIRST MAKES PICOT DROP TO THE BACK? RIGHT?
AKTATTER: GOOD IDEA MEL
Susan: yes
AKTATTER: OK QUESTINOS?
AKTATTER: THIS INFO REPEATS TONIGHT AT 8:30pm et
AKTATTER: NEEDLE TATTING AT 8PM ET
skfuller: yes I picture a capital V pointing t me to remember which
picotsnkeys: anybody have more hours in a day I could borrow?
Gina: what do you use drop picots for?
skfuller: half twists which way!
AKTATTER: SUE CAN YOU JOIN NUS TONIGHT?
Susan: none, thanks
skfuller: yes
AKTATTER: MOSTLY FOR DECORATIVE WORK, JOINING, AND BEADING
AKTATTER: GREAT!
AnneB: Sorry Melanie, I'm a few short myself LOL
Gina: thanks :)
AKTATTER: OK LST CALL FOR QUESTIONS?
skfuller: which I had come to share but I don't have enough for myself
granny: when is the beginner class? this is inspiring but still way over my head.
picotsnkeys: ah shucks....lol
Gina: Thursday at the same time granny
AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH TO JUDITH, SUE, JANE, AND SUE H FOR THEIR HELP WITH THE DROP PICOTS
picotsnkeys: come join us on Thursday
granny: thank you
AKTATTER: THURSDAYS 3PM AND 9PM ET RIGHT HERE
Susan: thanks for the great class Georgia and Sue
skfuller: bye all, gotta get ack to work on my lamb instructions
Raelara: Where in Alameda are you Granny?
Raelara: Maybe I could give you private lessons
Gretta: Enjoyed the class, Thanks
granny: Bay Farm, phone book says Rene Wells
AKTATTER: THANKS FOR STOPPING BYE ALL
picotsnkeys: thanks Sue
Gina: thank you for the class! and thanks for putting up with a beginner!
Susan: bye eveybody
skfuller: Your welcome, you all are helping me too
AKTATTER: SEE YOU TONIGHT UNTIL THEN HAPPY TATTING ALL
AnneB: Your lamb is lovely Sue!
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skfuller: as I'm writing patterns!
Raelara: How long have you lived there? My husband grew up in Alameda
skfuller: thanks. bye
granny: can I leave my email here for you?
Elipand: BYE NOW.tHANKS
granny: we've been here almost 4 yrs
Raelara: sure
Mary_ND: Thanks everyone
granny: grannyanme@comcast.net
picotsnkeys: Do you get to south bay area granny?
AnneB: Now I'll be off to bed
granny: Thank you for the class
Raelara: mine is raelara at gmail.com
AnneB: Good night all!
picotsnkeys: night Anne
granny: I can't drive anymore, I have MS but my hands work well!
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Raelara: MS is no fun
picotsnkeys: MS is no fun
picotsnkeys: wow....thinking alike!
granny: right but we find a way to keep going.
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picotsnkeys: holler if either of you find yourself coming to San Jose. We can meet
granny: or if you come up this way?
Raelara: that would be cool
picotsnkeys: rarely do I find myself going to Oakland. It's usually to the airport and that's at the last minute
picotsnkeys: Perhaps I'll just have to venture up that way anyway!
granny: I'm almost at the end of the runway! only 8 minutes from the airport but it's still pretty here
Raelara: We don't get to Alameda or San Jose often either, but we should
granny: just let me know and I'll put on the tea
picotsnkeys: The ocean calls much louder than the mountains to me lol
picotsnkeys: hhmmmmmm shall I bring chocolate?....or Girl Scout cookies?
granny: oh me too! used to live near the Strait of Juan de Fuca in WA
Raelara: You would like Alameda then ... 3 square miles surrounded by water
granny: definitly chocolate, it's a learning tool, helps the brain
picotsnkeys: :)
picotsnkeys: my brain needs all the help I can get it....or maybe I just need to start being more reasonable!
granny: truly! it's a scientific fact, one that I am particularly fond of.
Raelara: I want some girl scout cookies, need to keep an eye out for booths
picotsnkeys: first year I don't have cases stacked in the living room. Now I see the dust!
granny: don't buy the lemon ones, heard on the news they are rancid
Raelara: I usually buy samoas, thin mints, and trefoils
granny: I'm going to go look at the sites now, the class moves so quickly for me that I can't take it all in
picotsnkeys: The GS office sent out info on the Lemon Cremes. We didn't get any in our council
picotsnkeys: me too granny
picotsnkeys: or do you prefer Rene?
granny: ok, don't want anyone sick
granny: Rene' is fine, I didn't know if I was to use my name in a chat, my first time and all
picotsnkeys: the "bad" ones won't make you sick, but don't taste quite right. Much like when I bake...lol
Raelara: usually rancid oils just taste bad
Raelara: so, Mel, are they just not sending out the lemon cremes?
picotsnkeys: the've "recalled" the bad batch, and have upped the good ones to cover any sales
Raelara: ah
picotsnkeys: The baker is good to work with
granny: I hope it doesn't hurt the sales
picotsnkeys: It may, but the girls are cute enough to counter!
granny: the repair man is here, thanks for chatting!
Raelara: people are too addicted to the cookies
picotsnkeys: Time to pick up my girl (age 16). Thanks for coming Rene
Raelara: later Rene!
Raelara: talk to you all later!
granny: bye
Raelara: see you Mel!
picotsnkeys: bye Jenni
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maria alcantara from x.x.x.67 joined the chat 110 minutes ago
Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 110 minutes ago
Cynthia: Hi Maria
Cynthia: is it just me or did someone else come in?
bquilter from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 105 minutes ago
Cynthia: hi
bquilter: Hello everyone
Cynthia: I'm in central OK where are you?
Cynthia: right now it is just you and me...
bquilter: I am new to the chat room, Im in eastern CO
Cynthia: I moved OK from Longmont, CO
bquilter: I am trying out the link for the class
bquilter: I tat a little with the shuttle and want to learn to use the needles and beading
Cynthia: good idea. any questions? I teach the beginners and had to figure out how to tell them
Cynthia: I mostly shuttle tat but do some needle tatting too.
Cynthia: Where in eastern CO?
bquilter: Only one question, when do we start?
bquilter: I live outside of Larkspur
Cynthia: in about 8 minutes things will begin to pick up
Cynthia: You're in the mountains then if my memors isn't too bad...but close to the plains...right?
Cynthia: my spelling is bad...good memory just bad speller...lol
bquilter: I will need a tatting needle, thread, any thing wlse? I am in the foothills
bquilter: Lots of snow still on the ground
Cynthia: that is what you will need. The beginner class has some good info on needle tatting too...and there is more on proboards...let me get the link
Cynthia: here in OK we don't have any snow--good thing as few here know how to drive on it...
Cynthia: Larkspur is't that near the Rennasainse faire?
Cynthia: My daughter used to go every year...I didn't make it...
maria alcantara from x.x.x.67 joined the chat 98 minutes ago
bquilter: Yes, it is. I live four miles east of Larkspur, and Drive past it on the way to I-25. I haven't been either
Cynthia: Hi Maria...
maria alcantara: Hi girls!
Cynthia: I thought I had the spot right...lol
bquilter: Hi, Maria
AKTATTER from x.x.x.80 joined the chat 96 minutes ago
Cynthia: Did you find page 17 in the Handbook of Tatting jpg's. I want to do the garders/sleeve holders that start on page 16..
AKTATTER: hello all
bquilter: Hello
maria alcantara: Cun do you have a needle pattern fos short jacket?
Cynthia: Hi Georgia we figured out what was wrong with my computer--other than dropping the book on the keyboard...lthe plug was half out
Cynthia: no I don't Maria I've only got a few needle specific patterns...
AKTATTER: March 1, 2010 needle tatting evening session
AKTATTER: oh great at least it was easy to fix
AKTATTER: hello bquilter i think you arenew here?
AKTATTER: hello maria, I see email from you
bquilter: yes, Hello everyone
Cynthia: Hi Georgia....yes at least that was easy to fix...I was blaming myself and thinking we had to get a new keyboard...Doug discovered the plug...
maria alcantara: at last I finish row#9...
Cynthia: I'd love to know which pattern you are using Maria
maria alcantara: G i would like to needletatt a short jacket....do you know where i can find an easy pattern?
maria alcantara: for what Cyn?...
AKTATTER: for an adult maria?
Cynthia: the pattern you are working on and finished row 9 of
Cynthia: Hi Rosemarie
Paule from x.x.x.147 joined the chat 90 minutes ago
AKTATTER: welcome Paule
maria alcantara: iis y homwork from Coat's & Clark booklet #317 Tatted Doily A-1084 pattern...
Paule: allo averyone
maria alcantara: for me please G...
Rosemarie from x.x.x.213 joined the chat 90 minutes ago
AKTATTER: ok brb
Rosemarie: Hi, All
Paule: allo Rosemarie
maria alcantara: G show the dloily incompleat...but today i send her the new finish picture.....a tatt all week...
Cynthia: got it that is a very pretty one.
Cynthia: I tat too slow to have it done in a week...lol
Rosemarie: Georgia - Sorry for the remark this afternoon about downloading the Needlecraft Magazine taking too long. I appreciate this class and everything that you do for me.
maria alcantara: i think i have a good rythm to tatt...and i try to tatt all the time i can!!!!
Cynthia: I'm sure you do. I had to reorganize my office and work all week too so only evenings are tat time unless I sneak a bit of tat time in when I should be working...LOL Only I can't be fired I'm the boss...lol
Cynthia: downloading them can seem like it takes for ever...I understand. and when we put the patterns in it feels like it takes forever too...
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/mariaaa1084d...
AKTATTER: that is the doily all done by Maria
Cynthia: Paule I didn't see you sneak in...LOL I need to look someplace other than the keyboard...LOL
Cynthia: AWESOME....Beautiful and incredible maria....Thank you for sharing and inspiring us all
maria alcantara: g i send you a smaller file......sorry...i click before i can check it....
bquilter: wow, Maria, what a beautiful doily
AKTATTER: is there a needle tatting question tonight?
skfuller from x.x.x.162 joined the chat 81 minutes ago
AKTATTER: hello sue and Rosemarie too
Rosemarie: Wow, that is really beautiful!
bquilter: How do I start?
Cynthia: Hi Sue
maria alcantara: i did mine....
skfuller: Hi all
skfuller: That's beautiful Maria!
Cynthia: bquilter...one stitch at a time...lol I know you want to learn to needle tat...
AKTATTER: oh Rosemarie, don't apologize, the reason there are not more antique booklets posted was because I had old fashioned dialup and it took forever to load and downlaod stuff for class
skfuller: Where are you in Eastern CO bquilter?
AKTATTER: but luckily I got wireless connection for Christmas and things are going so much faster now.
bquilter: I am in Larkspur
maria alcantara: thanks
all you!!!!!
bquilter: I guess that is more central than eastern
skfuller: I'll have to look at a map, I'm in Loveland
AKTATTER: and rosemarie don't forget, you can right click on links and then select save target as which downloads faster, then you can wait to open it on your computer instead on opening it while you are actually online which takes longer
Rosemarie: Thanks for understanding
bquilter: I am between Denver and Colorado Srpings
AKTATTER: Loveland is the hometown of PIECEWORK magazine
skfuller: yes it is and I work at the community college campus right across from it in our downtown area
skfuller: bquilter maybe we can get together this summer
AKTATTER: I must tell you all that Jane Eborall has completely redone the diagrams for the A-1084 doily and I will replace the old ones this week.
Cynthia: ooohhh lucky you Sue. When we left Longmont (CO) I didn't know anyother tatters at all. Had to move to OK and get online to find them...LOL
bquilter: That would be nice skfuller
maria alcantara: great!!!! it has been a hard work foa jane
AKTATTER: yes it was but she is so kind t ohelp us all out with diagrams and tutorials
skfuller: oh that's too bad Cynthia and I lived in longmont too until moving here to Loveland 4 yrs ago
Rosemarie: k
Cynthia: WE moved in 2001 October...
maria alcantara: .
Cynthia: Jane and Georgia do an an incredible job of sharing the tatting patterns and books. I thank them for that
AKTATTER: we have so much help too from those who share the original books and those who scan them and those who make them info pdfs also
AKTATTER: it is always a team effort here inthe class
maria alcantara: g what about donations? how much you need?
Cynthia: all the helpers do an incredible job...
Cynthia: I think bquilter has some questions about needle tatting AK....I wasn't much help...
AKTATTER: yes bquilter?
Cynthia: here is the link bquilter if you don't have it already...http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/mimi/html/inde... the beginner class
maria alcantara: g ....it looks different of what i want to ask...with how much we can help?
bquilter: thank you.
AKTATTER: oh Maria it is kind of you to mention it, for the new tatters, there is never a charge for these lessons but once in a while I ask for help to keep them posted.
AKTATTER: This year one day online costs $2.10. So anything you can donate will help.
AKTATTER: But no donation is ever required.
bquilter: where do you donate?
AKTATTER: now bquilter is there a question on needle tatting are you a newbie at this?
Cynthia: and Georgia gets after me when I promo her site...
Cynthia: brb
bquilter: I know how to use a shuttle, but I also want to learn how to needle tat
AKTATTER: there is a little button on the class page http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/2010index.ht...
AKTATTER: oh ok then let's take a moment and look at the beginning pages of needle tatting
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingb...
AKTATTER: and then http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingb...
AKTATTER: and the best diagrams http://www.frontiernet.net/~tammyrodgers/inde...
AKTATTER: bq do you have a tatting needle and thread already at hand?
bquilter: yesd
Sandy from x.x.x.19 joined the chat 66 minutes ago
AKTATTER: oh oh cyn'c computer is acting up again
Wally from x.x.x.78 joined the chat 66 minutes ago
AKTATTER: welcome sandy
Wally: Hi gals!
AKTATTER: ok take the thread, about one yard
Sandy: Hello!!
Cynthia: Hi Sandy and Wally
AKTATTER: fold it in half
AKTATTER: and put a luggage tag loop over the tatting needle about the midpoint of it
Sandy: Hope you had a fabulous birthday, Georgia!
Suz from x.x.x.89 joined the chat 65 minutes ago
AKTATTER: hi ya wally we were talking about you today inclass
AKTATTER: \thanks so much Sandy :)
Wally: what i did? :-)
Suz: Hi, everyone...hope you all had a good week!
AKTATTER: bq look at photos 1 2 and 3 on page http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingb...
AKTATTER: tell me when you got it ready
AKTATTER: open chat continues for 10 minutes
maria alcantara: holla wally...
Wally: Hola Maria!
AKTATTER: wally i showed them the plastic gauge video that is a wonderful gadget and just right for our mignonette study
Cynthia: it sure is....
Gail from x.x.x.157 joined the chat 63 minutes ago
Gail: Hi, all
Cynthia: what kind of plastic did you use? I want to get me some...and make several
AKTATTER: hi gail
AKTATTER: how are you doing bq?
Cynthia: Hi Garil
Wally: Ah yes! It's a neat trick. Made by Kika, one of the Chilean tatters
Cynthia: gail my typos are exposed...
AKTATTER: oh kika my thoughts have been with our fellow tatters in chile today
maria alcantara: and works...i use it ......
Wally: Nopt sure which one she used but I cut a piece of plastic like the ones that comes in electronic boxes
Cynthia: yes all of us have been thinking of them
bquilter: ok, aktatter, I am finished
Wally: We are all worry about them. Until now there are 2 that are missing
Cynthia: got it...the plastic used on lots of stuff that just gets tossed....now we can repurpose it...
AKTATTER: bq if you need help then take the loop of thread where it is folded and lay it down on the table
AKTATTER: ok great
Sandy: I'm sorry but what is the plastic guage video?
AKTATTER: now you see there are two loops on the needle
bquilter: yes
AKTATTER: and a bar across the top
maria alcantara: we haven“t been able to get in touch with all...from Mexico the lephone lines are congested
Paule: Where is the wonderful video and the wonderful gadget for mignonnette ? Had to answer the door...
AKTATTER: http://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.com/
AKTATTER: please go view the great video on Wally's site
Gail: Hi, ak, cynthia , wally,
bquilter: will do
AKTATTER: ok each loop faces the opposite direction
Wally: There is a group on FB that is for looking Chilean people and Pilar, another Chilean tatter placed their info.
AKTATTER: looking at photo 5 on the page, fold the thread to make a loop
AKTATTER: which faces to the left
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AKTATTER: then slide the needle through the middle of the loop
AKTATTER: make another loop that faces the right
AKTATTER: and slide the needle through that loop
AKTATTER: now pull down on the thread tail until all the slack is gone
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Wally: Wow! I didn't notice I haven't blog in amonth!
AKTATTER: it should look like photo 7
AKTATTER: hey we miss your posts wally
bquilter: ok
AKTATTER: at this point practice these two half stitches
Cynthia: and we missed you too wally
AKTATTER: which form a double stitch
AKTATTER: untili iyou rtail runs out of thread
Paule: Wally, do I have to register to see the video?
AKTATTER: then we do the next step
bquilter: got it
Wally: I have been with depression because of a problem with my health insurance and I ran out of "happy pills". SO i tried to keep relax until I could get them
maria alcantara: no.....
Wally: may be you need to register to ning
Wally: some people can see it without registering
maria alcantara: no......the blog is not at ning site...
AKTATTER: oh depression can be so overpowerin at times thank goodness for tatting it keeps me focused too
AKTATTER: http://needles-n-shuttles.blogspot.com/ this is the site
Paule: ning site?
AKTATTER: the video is just below the mignonette sample wally posted
AKTATTER: ok it is time to get started
maria alcantara: paule:only click in the link.....
paulaw from x.x.x.109 joined the chat 55 minutes ago
AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN
Wally: Ning is the site where the video is originally posted but I posted a copy on my blog
AKTATTER: WELCOME PAULA
paulaw: hello
Suz: .
bquilter: thank you aktatter
Wally: Wally Sosa, needledreams@yahoo.com, Puerto Rico
maria alcantara: maria Alcantara famalcan@prodigy.net.mx Mexico City
paulaw: paula wiebers, Denison, IA dpwiebers@frontiernet.net
Paule: learn something every day... keeps your mind young
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK, brasthatfit@yahoo.com
AKTATTER: CAN YOU DO IT SMOOTHLY NOW BQ?
Suz: Suzan Crites scrites@charter.net Jackson, Missouri USA
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA
Sandy: Sandy Cofer, Bremerton, WA USA dscofer2@comcast.net
AKTATTER: YES IT DOES PAULE
Cynthia: and nimble too
AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE THE RYTHYM BQ THEN PRACTICE DOING THE PICOT BETWEEN THE DOUBLE STITCHES
Sandy: Wally, I'm so impressed with your video and love the technique/tool!!!! Thanks for sharing!
AKTATTER: AS IN PHOTO 7 AND 8
Wally: Thanks to Kika. :-) She made the video
Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotron.ca
Rosemarie: Rosemarie Weber, Baltimore, Maryland, USA rweb53@verizon.net
AKTATTER: ISN'T THAT PICOT GAUGE IDEA TERRIFIC?
AKTATTER: IF YOU WILL SEND ME KIKA' EMAIL I WILL SEND HER ANOTE TOO
Cynthia: it is fantastic...
AKTATTER: OK THIS WEEK WE HAVE HAD AN ONLINE DISCUSSION ABOUT THE DROP PICOT
Sandy: Love it! I'm starting round 7 on the Coates and Clark doiley and will give it a try.
skfuller: Sue Fuller Loveland CO rlskfuller@comcast.net
AKTATTER: AND WE HAVE GATHERED A LOT OF INFO ABOUT IT
Gail from x.x.x.157 joined the chat 52 minutes ago
AKTATTER: HEY SANDY, MARIA JUST FINISHED HERS LOOK http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/mariaaa1084d...
maria alcantara: sandy go!!!!!!!! soon you will finish it...
Gail: Hi, again
Wally: i used it a lot before learning the scmr
AKTATTER: SUE FULLER HAS PUT TOGETHER SOME INFO ABOUT IT FOR US
Gail: Great idea
Sandy: I did!! It's so perfect that I don't know if I can share mine!!!!!
bquilter: It is getting easier
AKTATTER: YOU WILL REMEMBER SUE FULLER AS THE AUTHOR OF a POTPURRI OF TATTING PATTERNS
AKTATTER: GREAT BQ
AKTATTER: HAVE YOU GOT THE PICOT NOW BQ?
Cynthia: k
Suz: .
Sandy: Sue, Are you the one teaching a tatted angel class in April?
AKTATTER: AND SUE ALSO DESIGNED THAT GREAT HEART PATTERN "HEART'S DESIRE"
maria alcantara: come on Sandy!!!!!
Gail: Gail Hayes, llawen1@yahoo.com, alabama
skfuller: Thanks Georgia!
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/fuller.ht...
AKTATTER: OK SUE GET US STARTED
Sandy: Oh, Maria, your's is so perfect!
skfuller: Well I'm writing and diagramming some new patterns and
Rosemarie: k
AKTATTER: BQ TYPE K OFTEN TO LET THE COMPUTER KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL IN THE ROOM
AKTATTER: AND LET ME KNOW WHEN YOU ARE READY FOR A LITTEL PRACTICE PATTERN
skfuller: USING A VARIATION OF vICTORIAN SETS BUT WITH P IN THE MIDDLE
maria alcantara: only practice...and practice and G and Wally oppiinions....and more practice Thank you!
Wally: que hilo usastes y que ten grande quedo Maria? How big and what thread is it?
AKTATTER: VICTORIAN SETS = NODE STITCH= RICK RACK TATTING
skfuller: DIDN'T HAVE A NAME FOR IT THEN BUT
skfuller: NOW I SEE 2 NAMES THAT SEEM TO APPLY TO THE SAME THING
maria alcantara: i use omega#10 and has a diameter of37 cms aprox
AKTATTER: YES IT SHOWS HOW MUCH WE NEED TO STANDARDIZE OUR TATTING TERMS
Gail: k
skfuller: SUE H'S BUTTERFLY http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/hansonbfly.h...
Wally: almost 15 inches. cool! Mom is asking for a big doily for the round dinner table
Suz: .
skfuller: DESCRIBES A DROP PICOT
stitchingsharon from x.x.x.94 joined the chat 47 minutes ago
skfuller: "Drop picot in front (when working from the back) Two 1st half stitches, leave a space then two 2nd half ds"
AKTATTER: BTW MARIA INCREASED THE SIZE OF THE RINGS IN THE LAST ROW?? FROM 3 TO 4 BETWEEN EACH PICOT OR JOIN
AKTATTER: WELCOME SHARON
AKTATTER: WE ARE DISCUSSIN THE DROP PICOT CONCEPT
maria alcantara: yes i did that...but wally needs more rounds.....i think...
skfuller: AND JANE E SHOW US http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/
stitchingsharon: hello everyone. sorry I'm late
AKTATTER: http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/Doodles1.pd...
Suz: .
skfuller: A DOWN PICOT WHICH LOOKS THE SAME
Gail: k
Rosemarie: k
Wally: I forgot I have an online pattern http://needles-n-shuttles.com/ChenilleBookmar...
AKTATTER: THIS IS AN OLD PAGE OF JANE'S BUT IT HAS THE BEST DIGRAM http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Down...
Sandy: k
skfuller: AND PALMETTO TATTERS GUILD DEFINES A "DP" DOWN PICOT THE SAME AS JANES
AKTATTER: AH THAT IS NICE WALLY
skfuller: LOVE IT WALLY
Sandy: Very nice, Wally.
AKTATTER: SO FAR, TWO TERMS, DROP PICOT AND DOWN PICOT
skfuller: AND NOW WE CAN ADD ANOTHER TERM "INVERTED PICOT"
Wally: I gave a class in PR about it
AKTATTER: WHICH MEAN THE SAME METHOD OF MAKING A PICOT
stitchingsharon: k
skfuller: SO WHAT DO I USE?!?!#
Wally: .
AKTATTER: OK DOES THAT MEAN THE SAME AS DROP PICOT AND DOWN PICOT? INVERTED PICOT?
Gail: sounds like
Sandy: Then what is the method called where you pull the core thread down to be in position for joining below?
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AKTATTER: BQ READY FOR MORE?
skfuller: AT LEAST AS FAR AS FISRT HALF STITCHES FOLLOWED BY SECOND HALF STITCHES
maria alcantara: .
Cynthia: just put your choice in the abbreviations on the patterns...
Wally: for me down picot was the picot made using the core thread, placing a paper clip to save the picot until use. Down and inverted are the same for me
Suz: .
Wally: oops, I meant drop picot is the one made with the core thread
skfuller: IS PULLING THE CORE THREAD DOWN WHAT MARK M DOES?
Sandy: That's the one I'm talking about too Wally.
AKTATTER: WELL WE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THIS TODAY AND THERE IS AN ESSENTIAL DIFFERENCE IN THE PICOTS
AKTATTER: THE PICOT WHICH IS MADE BY THE WORKING THREAD, AS IN, 2X 1HS THEN 2X 2HS
Paule: I am confused...
stitchingsharon: k
AKTATTER: INDICATES THE DROP/DOWN/INVERTED PICOT
Cynthia: k
AKTATTER: THOSE PICOTS WHICH ARE MADE BY PULLING OUT THE CORE THREAD,
AKTATTER: AS IN MAKING AN INWARD FACING PICOT OR THE LOOP TO FORM A SELF CLOSING MOCK RING
skfuller: I LIKE DOWN FOR THAT THE WORKING THREAD AND
skfuller: FOR THE CORE THREAD ONE.
AKTATTER: ARE DIFFERENT.
skfuller: OOPS, DROP FOR THE ONE WITH CORE THREAD
AKTATTER: WHAT DOES PALMETTOS STANDARD NOTATION GUIDE ADVISE?
AKTATTER: SEE PAULE WE ARE ALL CONFUSED
Wally: lol
Suz: .
Cynthia: k
skfuller: DOWN PICOT FOR ONES USING THE WORKING THREAD
Gail: k
maria alcantara: '''
maria alcantara: ?????
AKTATTER: http://www.palmettotatters.org/patterns/Stand...
stitchingsharon: doesn't take much to confuse me
skfuller: PALMETTOS, DP DOWN PICOT WITH 2 FIRST HALVES, P, 2 SECOND HALVES
skfuller: WITH THE WORKING THREAD
Suz: ahhhh...got it!
AKTATTER: BUT THEY DO NOT DESCRIBE THE INWARD FACING PICOT MADE WITH THE COIRE THREAD LOOP?
skfuller: MAKES A V SHAPE POINTING TOWARDS THE TATTER
skfuller: NOT ON THE LISST I DOWNLOADED
Cynthia: k
Wally: So we need to find a name for that one?
Sandy: Is that the Inverted picot?
skfuller: WAS MARK M USING THE CORE THREAD?
Rosemarie: k
skfuller: FOR HIS DROP PICOT
Gail: k
AKTATTER: NO MARK WAS USING THE WORKING THEAD
AKTATTER: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/2010/02/12/do...
AKTATTER: AND GOOD DIAGRAM
AKTATTER: http://www.tat-man.net/tatterville/howtotat/d...
Wally: He makes it in another way
AKTATTER: HE MADE A REGULAR PICOT
AKTATTER: THEN FOLDED IT DOWN
AKTATTER: AND PLACED A DS OVER IT
Suz: .
AKTATTER: AND THEN THERE IS ANOTHER TYPE OF INWARD FACING PICOT
maria alcantara: .....
AKTATTER: WHERE YOU AN ANCHOR POINT
AKTATTER: ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE OF THE WORK
skfuller: OH, I SEE NO HALF STITCHES INVOLVED
AKTATTER: 1ST HALF STITCH
AKTATTER: FOLLOWED BY 2ND HALF STITCH NOT FLIPPED
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AKTATTER: THIS LOCK UP THE THREAD ADN ALLOWS THE PICOT TO BE "BENT" DOWNWARD
AKTATTER: WELCOME KATIE
Katie V: Hi, tatters. Sorry I'm late. Can you believe that I almost forgot!?!
Suz: .
Wally: didn't understand that last one
Paule: We are not outt of the woods yet...
AKTATTER: RIGHT SO DOWN PICOT IS CREATED USING HALF STITCHES
AKTATTER: AND DROP/INWARD FACING PICOTS USES THE CORE THREAD
skfuller: 2ND HALF NOT FLIPPED - AN LS (LOCK STITCH)?
AKTATTER: DO WE HAVE IT RIGHT NOW?
Cynthia: k
AKTATTER: WALLY IT IS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY WHERE TATTERS JUST PLAIN TWISTED A PICOT DOWN WITH A CROCHET HOOK INTO THE RIGHT POSITION FOR A JOIN
stitchingsharon: wouln't that keep your ring from closing?
AKTATTER: IT WASN'T A PRETTY SIGHT
AKTATTER: YES IF ON A RING BUT DOESN NOT MATTER ON A CHAIN
AKTATTER: WHY NO KATIE! BUT i AM SO GLAD YOU JOINED US
Suz: .
Wally: ah, was only for chains.
AKTATTER: RIGHT SUE
stitchingsharon: ok
skfuller: ALTHOUGH AS LOND AS JUST THE WORKING THREAD IS MAKING THE DOWN PICOT
AKTATTER: YES I THINK IT WAS USED THAT WAY BACK IN THE DAY
Gail: k
skfuller: THE CORE THREAD STAYS STRAIGHT FOR CLOSING
AKTATTER: OK SUE ANYMORE ON THE DROP/DOWN PICOT?
Cynthia: k
Wally: never saw an old pattern usign that kind of picot
Sandy: So drop is the same as inward?
skfuller: I THINK I'LL START A CHART TO SHOW DIFFERENCES
maria alcantara: i have to go back...but the last 2 lines are the correct way....
Suz: .
maria alcantara: great g!!!!!!
AKTATTER: THE OLD I REMEMBER BEST IS THE OLD GERMAN 5-7 RING FLOWER THAT SLANTS TO THE SIDE AND THE CHAIN FORMS THE STEM WITH ONE OR TWO LEAFS ON IT AND THE INWARD FACING PICOT IS THE ANCHOR POINT FOR THE FOLLOWING FLOWER/RING
AKTATTER: GOO DSUE
AKTATTER: AND WE ARE GOING TO MAKE A LIST OF PATTERNS USING THESE PICOTS
Cynthia: we all will need to study this to get the hang of it...
Paule: Good idea that chart
AKTATTER: AND POST THEM NEXT WEEK
Gail: k
skfuller: SOUNDS GOOD
Sandy: Great!
AKTATTER: DOWN USES THE WORKING THREAD
Wally: cool! I'll prepare a class like this in Spanish
AKTATTER: DROP/INWARD USES THE CORE THREAD
AKTATTER: SUPER WALLT
maria alcantara: it will be easyer for us, thanks in advance!
AKTATTER: MANY THANKS SUE FOR THIS INFO
Wally: you can use my pattern if you want
stitchingsharon: k
AKTATTER: AND MANY THANSK TO JENNI FOR SUGGESTING SUCH A TOPIC THIS WEEK
AKTATTER: THANKS WALLY
skfuller: AS SOMEONE SAID EARLIER, WE ARE A GGREAT TEAM
AKTATTER: OK READY FOR MORE?
Suz: .
Wally: really interesting the studies of picots.
Cynthia: sure and we are a great team
Sandy: Got it! Thanks!
AKTATTER: OK THE MIGNONETTE STUDY CONTINUES
AKTATTER: WE HAVE ONE STEP, ER TWO STEPS LEFT TO CONSIDER
maria alcantara: wally the link please.....
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/jconnorsmign...
AKTATTER: THESE TWO PAGES ARE FROM JUDTIH CONNORS
AKTATTER: TATTING ADVENTUNRES WITH BEADS SHUTTLES AND NEEDLE
AKTATTER: USED WITH HER PERMISSION
AKTATTER: PAGE 65 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/jconnorsmign...
AKTATTER: SHOWS THE FINISHED MIGNONETTE STRIP
AKTATTER: WITH A LITTLE HISTORY ABOVE IT
AKTATTER: PAGE 66 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/jconnorsmign...
Suz: .
AKTATTER: SHOWS THE DIAGRAM
Gail: k
AKTATTER: AND ABOVE JUDITH MENTIONS HOW WE CAN USE THE LONG TAIL TO CLIMB FROM ROW TO ROW
AKTATTER: AND HOW TO INCREASE THE SIZE
AKTATTER: BY INCREASING THE LENGTH OF THE BARETHRED SPACE
Cynthia: k
AKTATTER: AND BY INCREASING THE SIZE OF THE TINY RINGS
stitchingsharon: k
AKTATTER: YOU COULD PUT THE TAIL ON A SHUTTLE
AKTATTER: OR JUST FINGER TAT THE SPLIT RINGS TO CLIMB OUT
AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE LSAT ROW THE FIRST RING ON THE LEFT
Sandy: k
AKTATTER: THERE IS A LINE THROUGH THAT RING
AKTATTER: WHICH INDICATES THAT IT IS A SP[LIT RING
skfuller: Bare Thread Space (BTS)
AKTATTER: FOLLOW THE LINE OF SPLIT RINGS UP TO THE RIGHT
AKTATTER: AND YOU CAN SEE HOW THE PATTERN CLIMBED OUT TO THE EDGE
Suz: .
AKTATTER: AND IF YOU HAVE THE TAIL ON A SHUTTLE
maria alcantara: ..
AKTATTER: YOU COULD MOVE RIGHT INTO THE RING AND CHAIN PATTERN OF THE FINAL ROW
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT PART?
Wally: .
AKTATTER: OK THE LAST POINT TO CONSIDER WITH OUT STUDY OF MIGNONETTE TATTING
AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/NeedlecraftM...
Wally: that pattern could make a pretty easy and lacy collar
AKTATTER: LOOKING TOWARD THE EDGE
AKTATTER: IT CERTAINLY WOULD WORK UP NICELY
Wally: oh!!!
AKTATTER: THIS BABY BONNET HAS A MIGNONETTE GROUND
AKTATTER: BUTTOWARD THE EDGE
AKTATTER: THE TINY RINGS ARE USED TO FORM A PATTERN
Wally: that's so cool!
AKTATTER: SEE THE TRIANGLES?
AKTATTER: KINDA LOOKS LIKE A BUNCH OF GRAPES
Gail: k
AKTATTER: YES IT IS WALLY
Suz: .
Wally: is tehre a pattern?
AKTATTER: THAT FIRST ROW HAS 4 TINY RINGS IN THE BTS
Paule: yes
AKTATTER: THE SECOND ROW HAS 3
AKTATTER: THE THIRD ROW HAS ONLY 2
AKTATTER: AND THE LAST ROW RETURNS TO JUST ONE RING
stitchingsharon: k
AKTATTER: YES WALLY http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/NeedlecraftM...
Wally: looks like the crocheted pineapples
AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE BONNET AT THE BOTTOM TOO
Wally: that one is prettier.
AKTATTER: HERE IS THERE IS SIMILAR "GRAPE BUNCH" PATTERN ALTERNATING WITH RINGS JOINED TO THE RING AND NOT TO THE BTS
AKTATTER: COOL
Sandy: k
Cynthia: k
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON MIGNONETTE?
Gail: k
Wally: Nop
Suz: .
AKTATTER: OK NANCY AT BESTITCHED HAD A GOOD PATTERN THIS MONTH
AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/files/1002flower.p...
stitchingsharon: BTS????
Paule: If I could only get a glimpse of the wonderful gadget...sniff
AKTATTER: BE SURE TO SIGN UP FOR HER NEWSLETTER WHEN YOU ARE AT THE SITE
AKTATTER: CAN'T YOU SEE THE VIDEO PAULE?
Paule: no
AKTATTER: ON THIS PATTERN THERE ARE FOUR SHORT PICOTS AND 5 SET OF LONG PICOTS
Suz: .
Paule: I had to register or something and the directions were in Spanish
AKTATTER: TEH 5TH PICOT IS USED TO CLIMB OUT IN THE CHAI ROW
Wally: i will try to see if can put it on youtube or if kika have it on youtube
AKTATTER: THE CHAIN ROW JOINS TO THE SHORT PICOTS
AKTATTER: WHEN THE CHAINS ARE DONE ADN THE STEM FINISHED OFF
Paule: Maybe you could help me Wally
AKTATTER: YOU CUT THE LONG PICOTS
AKTATTER: AND FRAY THEM
AKTATTER: A GOOD WAY TO DO THIS
AKTATTER: IS TO PUT A PICE OF PAPER UNDER THE CUT PICOTS
AKTATTER: TAKE A TOOTHBRUSH
AKTATTER: HOPEFULLY NOT A USED ONE lol
AKTATTER: AND BRUSH THE PICOT UNTIL THEY ARE FLUFFY
Cynthia: good idea...bet it would work
Gail: k
AKTATTER: A VERY INTERESTING TECHNIQUE I THNK
Wally: an eyebrow brush/comb is neat too
Paule: I di it using a needle... took forever
AKTATTER: OR MUSTACHE BRUSH
Suz: .
Wally: I have a couple of patterns on my site using this technique too
Cynthia: me too Paule but on a Thistle-Do Pin....
stitchingsharon: k
AKTATTER: NOW I HOPE THAT EVERYONE HAS DOWNLOADED THE NEEDLECRAFT HANDBOOKS OF TATTING OK
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nchandbook...
AKTATTER: NOW REPLACE THE 1 WITH NUMBERS 2 THROUGH 23 TO SEE THE OTHER 23 PAGES
Wally: I couldn't save pages 9 and 13
AKTATTER: WE HAVE FOUND THAT PAGE 17 IS MISSING
AKTATTER: AND THE PAGES FOR 18-19 AR MISNUMBERED
AKTATTER: I WILL FIND THE MISSION PAGE HOPEFULLY AND POST IT TOO
Suz: I'm still only getting the front cover. I told you my computer hates me!
Cynthia: oh please Georgia I really want to try the garter/sleeve holder.
AKTATTER: SUZ ARE YOU DOING COPY AND PASTE FOR THE LINK?
Cynthia: Suz you have to change the page number each time then it will work...
Paule: I remember my father wearing an elastic one
Suz: ok...I'll be right back!
AKTATTER: I WORE ONE FOR MY WEDDING
Wally: Me too! I'm making wedding stuff for tatting demos
AKTATTER: NEAT
Gail: k
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS OR GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS TONIGHT?
Paule: Blue AK?
Cynthia: I hate my sleeves hanging in my work...but I like the long sleeves to keep warm...
AKTATTER: sUE ARE YOU TEACHING AT SPOKANE OR HECTOR IN APRIL?
AKTATTER: BLUE ??
skfuller: Hector in April
Paule: blue garter
Suz: Ahhhh! you are so right it worked! Thanks!
skfuller: I'm taking classes in Spokane
AKTATTER: OH! YES WHITE AND BLUE BUT NOT TATTED
Cynthia: I look forward to meeting you sue...
maria alcantara: no.....
Sandy: Sue, Are you the one teching the beaded angel?
AKTATTER: I HAD NOT YET LEARNED HOW TO TAT BACK THEN
Wally: Does anyone knows what starching method gets really hard and doesn't limp with humid weather?
skfuller: It's the Hecotr patterns I'm trying to finish writing
AKTATTER: BUT A DID A BLUE AND WHITE GARTER WITH A BRIGHT COPPER PENNY ON IT FOR AN EXHIBITION ONCE
skfuller: Yes, I'm teaching the beaded angel
AKTATTER: THE WATERED DOWN GLUE WALLY
maria alcantara: resistol rebajado. wally......
Sandy: Oh! It's lovely. Willl you publish it or is it in your book? I have a thing for angels!
stitchingsharon: k
Paule: Sue will you teah it in class after Hector? I can't go
Wally: the white glue?
Gail: k
AKTATTER: SPOKANE APRIL 16-17 http://www.shuttlebirds.com/index.shtml
maria alcantara: yessss
Suz: .
skfuller: It's new not in my book
AKTATTER: HECTOR APRIL 10-11 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/ioli/hector2010.h...
Rosemarie: k
AKTATTER: HEY SUE THAT IS A GREAT IDEA!
Wally: is there a photo of the angel?
Cynthia: k
skfuller: I look forward to meeting you too Cynthia
Wally: Que es resistol Maria?
Sandy: I found it on the Hector site Georgia listed
Cynthia: bring some dry air please...I miss it....LOL
AKTATTER: LOL
Wally: Wow! That's so pretty!!! Wish I could go to the class!
skfuller: I have quite a few more angels sketched but
skfuller: no idea how long it will take to get them all designed
maria alcantara: pegamento blanco para papel.....al secar se hace transparente...resistol es la marca
AKTATTER: AH IT LOOKS LIKE A NEW BOOK COMING SUE!
Suz: .
Sandy: A bit far for me as well!!
AKTATTER: OK THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR TONIGHT
Wally: Ah, esta bien! Aca le tenemos otro nombre.
stitchingsharon: lovely designs... wish I was going
Sandy: Hmm! An angel book!!???
AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO JUDITH, SUE FULLER, SUE HANSON, JANE EBORALL, WALLY AND KIKA FOR THEIR HELP WITH THIS LESSON
Cynthia: ooohhh that would be fun....more ways to spend my money...LOL
maria alcantara: lo rebajas con agua, un poco sumerges la pieza y la dejas secar al sol o a la sombra...
AKTATTER: REMEMBER THE BEGINNERS CLASS ON THURSDAY 3 AND 9PM et
Cynthia: Yes thank all of the helpers
Katie V: Thanks to them from me too!
Suz: Thanks! I think I have my next project picked out to work. Nite everyone!
AKTATTER: AND WALLY HAS THE SPANISH SPEAKING TATTERS CLASS ON SAT
Sandy: Thanks. See you all next week.
AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT SUZ
AKTATTER: SANDY TAKE CARE
Cynthia: We'll be doing meet and greet this week
maria alcantara: good night all girls!!!!
AKTATTER: THANK YOU ALL FOR STOPPING BY TONIGHT
Katie V: nite all!
skfuller: I'd better go tat now - bye everyone
AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING TO ALL
Wally: thanks for the class! G' night!
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stitchingsharon: goodnight all.
Gail: Night everyone
Cynthia: bye and peace everyone.
Rosemarie: Thanks for the class everyone - goodnight all.
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