»The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Dec 8 02:27:14 2009 GMT (134 KB) Page 1 of 3 - Char 1 to 51210 - Newest entries at the bottom AKTATTER from x.x.x.242 cleared the room 6 hours ago AKTATTER: Dec. 07, 2009 welcome one and all picotsnkeys: whew. thanks for the warning! AKTATTER: Please sign in for the afternoon needle tatting session of the online tatting class! picotsnkeys: How are you Georgia? AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA krystledawne: Yay I made it to class! picotsnkeys: gladly....Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com in Los gatos, CA USA AKTATTER: I AM FINE JUST HAD MY ANNUAL MAMMOGRAM THIS MORNING AND LEARNED SOMETHING SURPRISING krystledawne: Krystle Pyette krystledawne@gmail.com Puyallup WA krystledawne: ??? AKTATTER: GLDA TO SEE YOU KRYSTLE picotsnkeys: oh??? krystledawne: ouch BahmaTerri from x.x.x.39 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: DURING MY BONE DENSITY TEXT THEY DISCOVERED THAT I HAVE SHRUNK! krystledawne: Oh no! picotsnkeys: I've had 7 biopsies...all...benign. AKTATTER: 1.5" AMAZING I DON'T FEEL SHORTER BahmaTerri: BahmaTerri bahamterri@yahoo.com San Diego California krystledawne: the incredible shrinking tatter! AKTATTER: THE MAMMOGRAM MACHINE WAS ONE OF THE NEWS AND IT DID NOT PINCH!!!!! picotsnkeys: ah...age...he, he AKTATTER: HEY TERRI krystledawne: that's nice AKTATTER: THANK GOODNESS MEL I HAVE 3 LUMPS BUT THEY ARE ALL BENIGN TOO, CYSTS CLUSTERS AND CALCIUM DEPOSITS. picotsnkeys: just call me...lumpy lady! AKTATTER: BUT EVERYONE, GUYS TOO SHOULD GO ONCE A YEAR NO MATTER THAT CRAZY REPORT THAT SAID NOT TO BOTHER, THIS IS WHAT GIVES US A FIGHTING CHANCE AT BEATING BREAST CANCER EARLY BahmaTerri: hey, we're all lumpy - in one place or another ;) AKTATTER: TO START, ARE THERE ANY NEEDLE TATTING QUESTIONS? picotsnkeys: I agree....just don't let yourself get too wound up. AKTATTER: <<< MOST PLACES ACTUALLY picotsnkeys: I enjoyed your page on locking stitch with needle Barb: be here in a couple minutes AKTATTER: IF NOT THEN LET'S LOOK AT THAT PAGE MEL AKTATTER: OK BARB BahmaTerri: just a quick question - are all patterns worked clockwise? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/ntlockstitch.html picotsnkeys: FYI, if I open more than one explorer window, it'll lock. I'll still try to "listen" AKTATTER: IOF YOU PRINTED THE PAGE EARLY, I ADDED FOUR PHOTOS BY MARK MYERS AKTATTER: OK AKTATTER: AS YOU CAN SEE FROM MY FUZZY FOTOS AKTATTER: IT TAKES SOME EFFORT TO ACHIEVE THIS LOCK STITCH CHAIN EFFECT AKTATTER: PHOTO ONE IS OUR START picotsnkeys: clockwise....doesn't that depend on if you wrap with your right hand or left hand? krystledawne: i'l l pop back in for regular class, but I'm gonna go grab a bite to eat right now AKTATTER: PHOTO TWO SHOWS THE FIRST HALF STITCH WRAPPED ONTO THE NEEDLE AKTATTER: I SUSPECT THAT IS TRUE MEL I NEVER THOUGHT ABOUT IT AKTATTER: OK K BahmaTerri: I wrap with my left hand maria alcant from x.x.x.178 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIA AKTATTER: WE ARE LOOKING AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/ntlockstitch.html picotsnkeys: Hi Maria maria alcant: hi all ggirls! and G AKTATTER: PHOTO 3 AKTATTER: THIS SHOWS THE SECOND HALF STITCH AKTATTER: HERE THE THREAD FROM THE NEEDLE ITSELF IS AKTATTER: WRAPPED AROUND THE BALL THREAD AKTATTER: PHOTO 4 SHOWS THE COMPLETED SET OF 2 HALF STITCHES, ONE FLIPPED AND ONE NOT FLIPPED maria alcant: thanks G AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE THE START OF THE PATTERN EMERGING AKTATTER: TO GET THE NEEDLE THREAD AROUND THE BALL THREAD AKTATTER: YOU HAVE TO USE THE TATTING NEEDLE AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE AKTATTER: SEE THE NEXT PHOTO FOR THE METHOD Barb: k AKTATTER: YOU LITERALLY HOLD THE NEEDLE AS IF SEWING A BLANKET STITCH AND WRAP THE THREAD AKTATTER: IT MEANS THAT YOU MUST MOVE THE FIRST HALF STITCH OFF THE NEEDLE EACH TIME AKTATTER: BEFORE YOU CAN WRAP THE SECOND HALF STITCH picotsnkeys: k maria alcant: k AKTATTER: FOR THIS REASON I CONSIDER IT TIME CONSUMING HOWEVER, AKTATTER: THE EFFECTS OF THE LOCK STIUTCH CHAIN ARE GREAT SEE THE FOUR PHOTOS BahmaTerri: k maria alcant: sorry picotnkey.......hi AKTATTER: IOF MARK MYERS AKTATTER: IOF MARK MYERS AKTATTER: THE LOCK STICH CHAIN ON THE BOOKMARK IS STUNNING USE OF COLORS AND THIS TECHNIQUE Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: time comsuming, pretty, and very hard to undo, no? AKTATTER: LESS VISIBLE IN WHITE BUT STILL DECORATIVE picotsnkeys: Hi Cynthia...glad you're here! BahmaTerri: you can use the lock stitch wherever there are chains? AKTATTER: TIME SONSUMING, PRETTY AND IT MUST BE PICKED OUT ONE HALF STITCH AT A TIME IS RIGHT picotsnkeys: brb maria alcant: Cyn is nice to see you! AKTATTER: YES YOU CAN AND YOU CAN STOP AND MAK OTHER ELEMENTS LIKE FLOATING RINGS AND SCMR ETC AKTATTER: WELCOME cYN AKTATTER: THE HEART SAMPLE IS JUST TO DIE FOR AKTATTER: IF YOU CLICK THEPHOTO TO ENLARGE IT AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE HOW THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN GIVE THE LOOK OF BEDFORSHIRE BOBBIN LACE "CHAINS" Cynthia: Thanks and Hi everyone...I'm reading the early part so brb... BahmaTerri: the very dense 'heart shape' is that all open rings? Liz_ from x.x.x.57 joined the chat 6 hours ago maria alcant: yes Barb: LOL at first glance I thought.. Hey. .it looks like my first attempt at making ds with shuttle. LOL But when you see it in a whole project it's really pretty. :) AKTATTER from x.x.x.242 joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: me too Barb AKTATTER: NOTE ALSO THE TWO CLUNY LEAVES BahmaTerri: the heart motif is beautiful AKTATTER: OH LIZ Barb: Especially the white on white. Gives some pretty texture. AKTATTER: WELCOME Liz_: hi AKTATTER: AND THE HEART USES HALF CLOSED RINGS WHICH WE WILL DISCUSS NEXT WEEK ALSO AKTATTER: THE BLUE CROSS IS LOVELY TWO Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yaoo.com picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: NEXT FEAST YOUR EYES ON THIS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/jelockstitchchainbutterflybluevari2.jpg BahmaTerri: gorgeous! AKTATTER: jANE EBORALL'S BUTTERFLY MOM AND BABE WITH THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN JOINING THEM! Beadweaver from x.x.x.246 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: WELCOME BEAD AKTATTER: WE ARE LOOKING AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/jelockstitchchainbutterflybluevari2.jpg Beadweaver: ni Beadweaver: hi picotsnkeys: ooo...very pretty Beadweaver: that is so pretty AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW TO DO THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN ON THE TATTING NEEDLE? picotsnkeys: Hi Debbie Liz_: k maria alcant from x.x.x.178 joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: I think I'll stick with shuttle for this one ;) AKTATTER: WB MARIA :0) DID YOU GET KICKED OUT TOO! maria alcant: yes! but I run back BahmaTerri: .. AKTATTER: THIS TECHNIQUE IS DONE SO EASILY IN SHUTTLE TATTING. Barb: Butterfly is beautiful. Cynthia: Awesome butterfly is the pattern posted? or did I just miss it Beadweaver: hi, getting situated. I pick up my son everyday when this starts AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS FOR NEEDLE TATTING? AKTATTER: JANE SENT IT TO ME i WILL EMAIL HER AND ASK BRB Barb: So.. since it's lock stitch, I'm assuming that it 'locks' in and won't slide on the core thread??? maria alcant: i think i saw it in her patter page... BahmaTerri: lock stitch would be great for jewelry Beadweaver: did you see my pathetic snowman?????? picotsnkeys: you got it Barb...that makes it so hard to pick out... Barb: Maria, type a letter every now and then to keep you from getting kicked out of the room. krystledawne: a letter every now and then picotsnkeys: oh Debbie...you're too hard on yourself. Maybe the snowman is just dancin' krystledawne: :-) maria alcant: i did it but.........something happend.....so i will go and come each time......sorry Cynthia: if you keep track and seee your name near the top then just "k" ey in.... MJB from x.x.x.213 joined the chat 6 hours ago Barb: I'll bet it does make it hard to pick out. Beadweaver: I ordered another book with a dvd Cynthia: Beadweaver did you get it posted? I just got back...and didn't get a chance to check before I came to class picotsnkeys: Hi Mary Jane BahmaTerri: .. MJB: Hello everybody Barb: Which book Debbie? maria alcant: ... AKTATTER: ok I EMAILED JANE MAYBE SHE WILL JOIN US picotsnkeys: brb Beadweaver: It only has a head and body. lol AKTATTER: IF YOU KNOW WHERE IT IS MARIA PLEASE LINK US Liz_: k AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER NEEDLE TATTING QUESIONTS? AKTATTER: OK OPEN CHAT UNTIL THE REGULAR ONLINE TATTING CLASS STARTS Beadweaver: It' AKTATTER: THIS IS OUR NEXT TO LAST MEETING FOR THIS YEAR krystledawne: Nooo! Barb: I think I'm good. No questions. AKTATTER: THE LAST LESSON WILL BE ON DEC. 14 Beadweaver: it is from handy hands but I can't remember the name of it MJB: the year went too fast Barb: When do they start again Georgia? AKTATTER: BUT THERE WILL BE A PATTERN OF THE MONTH PAPERCLIP PATTERN BY ELLEN LAI ON DEC. 28TH krystledawne: Way too fast krystledawne: My baby is seven months old now! maria alcant: i am looking ... picotsnkeys: I've learned so much in 2009, what will I learn in 2010??? Beadweaver: I still can't manage the flower on the paper clip Jane Eb from x.x.x.222 joined the chat 6 hours ago BahmaTerri: will the classes begin again early next year? krystledawne: It seems like it was just yesterday when I was in class here and I went into labor Cynthia: Hi Jane picotsnkeys: Hi Jane! krystledawne: Jane dear! krystledawne: Hello! BahmaTerri: Hi Jane MJB: Hello Jane., looking forward for the TIAS Jane Eb: Hey y'alll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Beadweaver: k AKTATTER: jAN. 11 WE WILL RESUMER, I ALWAYS WAIT UNTIL AFTER STARRING DAY JAN. 6 Barb: Oh Wow.. LOL krystledawne: Yes yes yes! AKTATTER: JANE SO GLAD YOU CAME Barb: Thanks G. Barb: Barb waving at Jane :) Cynthia: Beginning tat class will start up January 7 if all goes as planned.... AKTATTER: WOW KRYSTLE WHAT FUN THAT WAS! Jane Eb: Only cause you reminded me, Georgia!!!! AKTATTER: :) picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: WE JUST FINISHED OHH AND AHHIN OVER THIS BUTTERFLY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/jelockstitchchainbutterflybluevari2.jpg AKTATTER: WE AER STUDYING THE LOCK STITCH TODAY Jane Eb: So, what are we doing today? BahmaTerri: yes, the butterfly is beautiful Jane Eb: Whoops you answered before I asked!!! AKTATTER: THE REGULAR CLASS IS DOING THE SNOWFLAKE ADAPTATION FROM PATTY DOWDEN MJB: are we doing the butterfly? Cynthia: she's psychic.... AKTATTER: LOL THE CLASS WAS WANTING THE PATTERN BUT I DIDN'T KNOW IF IT WERE POSTED meowy from x.x.x.174 joined the chat 6 hours ago krystledawne: she has a gift. a dark gift. Liz_: k picotsnkeys: Hi Stacey AKTATTER: HYE MJB! MEOW Cynthia: no a gift a beautiful light gift meowy: hi krystledawne: lol Beadweaver: k BahmaTerri: lol picotsnkeys: she shines light on our tatting to make all clear! krystledawne: That's for darn sure AKTATTER: :) OK LIGHT OR DARK I TRY TO HOLD THE FORT IN THE FASTNESS OF CYBERSPACE krystledawne: no pressure G BahmaTerri: and doing a great job! picotsnkeys: so....a butterfly pattern......... maria alcant: sorry i found somethin that could be the pattern but is not en jane´s page AKTATTER: JANE LEFT? IS SHE SCURRYING AROUND LOOKING FOR THAT PATTERN MAYBE? MJB: that would be nice AKTATTER: GOT THE LINK MARIA? Jane Eb: The butterfly (my favourite EVER pattern) should be out later this week krystledawne: she has been known to scurry... Gretta from x.x.x.124 joined the chat 6 hours ago Jane Eb: I gave it to my sister a week or so ago and (like me) she can't stop making it!!!! Raelara from x.x.x.210 joined the chat 6 hours ago maria alcant: i found the pattern here: http://www.intatters.com/showthread.php?t=984 AKTATTER: WELCOEM GRETTA nstitcher from x.x.x.203 joined the chat 6 hours ago Gretta: Hello AKTATTER: I ONLY FOUND OUT 2 WEEKS AGO THAT YOU HAD A TATTING SISTER JANE Cynthia: goody! that is such a pretty butterfly that I'm ready to try it...lol even tho I'm swamped with otherthing.... krystledawne: Sally is great maria alcant: but is not jane´s page ..isMonica manseñido...in e-tatters page nstitcher: hello BahmaTerri: .. Jane Eb: Oh, Sally's been tatting on and off forever too. Our gran taught me and then I taught Sally. We were never close until our mum died ten years ago - that says a LOT about our family!!!! Beadweaver: k krystledawne: Her blog always has some historical fun bit on her blog posts. picotsnkeys: k MJB: k maria alcant: ... krystledawne: I'm in suspense over her hubby's shuttlemaking Jane Eb: Ah, the shuttle making has met a few snags!!! Mainly her hubby not managing to be locked in the garage!!! Raelara: I need to find the money for more shuttles Barb: Hello Gretta :) meowy: . krystledawne: put a fridge in there, and some cornchips, he should be good for a week. picotsnkeys: Hi Jenni...is it as cold in east Bay as it is here? Gretta: Hi Barb maria alcant: .... Cynthia: k DorcasAnn from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 6 hours ago Raelara: it's not too bad now Jane Eb: Good idea Krystledawne!!!! Raelara: but it was pretty cold this morning Beadweaver: k krystledawne: drill a hole to put a straw through if you're feeling benevolent. Doesn't he know how vastly important shuttles are for the good of the universe!!! AKTATTER: wELLTHAT BUTTERFLY IS SIMILAR BUT IT IS NOT JANE'S PATTERN USING THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN, SPLIT RINGS AND LONG BEADED PICOTS TOO MJB: Hello DorcasAnn picotsnkeys: we could have snow in California tonight.....brrrrr nstitcher: it has warmed up to 9 here Jane Eb: Which pattern is similar? I'm intrigued!!! Cynthia: sunny California with snow??????????? LOL AKTATTER: HELLO N krystledawne: we had a sprinkle of snow, more of a colud sneeze really. krystledawne: *cloud AKTATTER: JANE THIS IS SIMILAR http://www.intatters.com/showthread.php?t=984 BUT NOT THE BUTTERFLY YOU MADE FOR WHICH WE WERE ASKING THE PATTERN Cynthia: I like that cank I use it? picotsnkeys: not sunny, the sky looks like the screen when Georgia clears the room....:0) DorcasAnn: Hello, MJB; I saw you on TV this morning again AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/jelockstitchchainbutterflybluevari2.jpg THIS IS THE ONE WE ARE DROLLING OVER MJB: You did., the same one/ AKTATTER: DROOLING OVER AKTATTER: HI DORCAS DorcasAnn: yes AKTATTER: OPEN CHAT 2 MORE MINUTES DorcasAnn: Hi, AK Raelara: lol picots Raelara: it may get sunny later AnneB at work from x.x.x.210 joined the chat 6 hours ago Raelara: that is how it went Saturday. It was dreary till about 1:00 then cleared up nicely AnneB at work: Hi all! picotsnkeys: hi Anne...you're working late! AKTATTER: OH OH I HOPE IT WASN'T AN ACCIDENT MJ krystledawne: I have sunny cold weather today. We forgot our mittens when we went grocery shopping. AKTATTER: WELCOME ANNE MJB: Dorcas., are you staying home this week: nstitcher: hello aktatter and everyone AnneB at work: I'm travelling and using my job-pc DorcasAnn: no MJB: good for you Beadweaver: k MJB: Remember Dec 13., at Buffalo Run DorcasAnn: yes DorcasAnn: you are going in costuime, aren't you? meowy: . maria alcant: ... MJB: hope it will be armer then/. I will be in costume MJB: warmer AKTATTER: OK LET'S GET STARTED PLEASE SIGN IN FOR THE AFTERNOON SESSION OF THE REGULAR ONLINE TATTING CLASS 12.07.2009 Barb: Hi Anne :) AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA BahmaTerri: Terri aka BahmaTerri@yahoo.com, San Diego California AnneB at work from x.x.x.210 joined the chat 6 hours ago krystledawne: krystle Pyette krystledawne@gmail.com Puyallup WA USA MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus., Indiana usa Jane Eb: Oh, yes, it does look similar but that butterfly is just rings, chains, isn't it? Also a long cut picot for the feelers. Mine's quite a lot different as it's got SR's, long beaded picots etc and no ends to sew in!!! Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com Gretta: Gretta Wilhite, Crane Hill, Alabama Jane Eb: Jane Eborall lurking in the UK AKTATTER: IF YOU KNOW A TATTER WHO MAY HAVE FORGOTTEN THE TIME, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO INVITE THEM USING YOUR INVITE PEOPLE BUTTON AT THE TOP LEFT OF YOUR SCREEN picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com Los Gatos, CA USA maria alcant: Maria Alcantara; famalcan@prodigy.net.mx Mexico City MEXICO Raelara: Jenni Sherriff raelaraa at gmail.com San Lorenzo, CA, USA AKTATTER from x.x.x.242 sent out 1 invitation(s) 6 hours ago AnneB at work: Anne Bruvold, Harstad (usually Tromsø), Norway, solurab @ online.no Beadweaver: k Barb: Barb Grainger Canby, Oregon USA sonsery@aol.com needle ..learning shuttle DorcasAnn: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA meowy: stacey staceywrites at gmail.com usa AKTATTER: LAST WEEK WE HAD A BIT OF CONFUSION ABOUT THE TERM LOCK STITCH AND HOW TO MAKE IT INTO A DECORATIVE CHAIN AKTATTER: THE CLASSIC "LOCK STITCH" IS A TERM USED WHEN A COMPLETE STOP IS CALLED FOR Jane Eb: What was the confusion? Liz_: Elizabeth Hendrix Shreveport, LA AKTATTER: OR WHEN A CHANGE OF DIRECTION IS NEEDED Beadweaver: Debbie Witenski debbie.witenski@gmai.com Pennsylvania, USA needle maria alcant: sorry Jane..i will wait for yours... nstitcher: I was browsing the sites, and came across the section on workintg with beads, now I can't find it.. any ideas? AKTATTER: ALSO WHEN AN INWARD FACING PICOT (BUT NOT AN SCMR) MIGHT BE NEEDED TO AS AN ANCHOR FOR A FOLLOWING TATTED ELEMENT Cynthia: Georgia, Margaret's computer is down...she got a trojan in it and has to wait for help...she called me as she missed class... AKTATTER: THE CONCEPT IS SIMPLE AKTATTER: THE FIRST HALF STITCH IS FLIPPED AKTATTER: THE SECOND HALF STITCH IS NOT FLIPPED BUT WRAPPED AKTATTER: THIS PREVENTS THE TATTING FROM BEING DRAWN UP INTO A RING OR A CHAIN BEING COMPRESSED AKTATTER: OH I AM SOPRRY TO HERE THAT WE ALL NEED TO KEEP OUR VIRUS PROTECTION UPDATED AKTATTER: THE CONFUSION WAS MORE IN HOW TO DO IN THAN WHAT IT WAS JANE AKTATTER: SO FOR THE SHUTTLE TATTER Jane Eb: Thanks Georgia. It's easy when you get into a rythm and the second part (unflipped) needs to be snug to the first half to make it neat. Jane Eb: It's SO pretty when using two contrasting colours too. AKTATTER from x.x.x.242 joined the chat 6 hours ago meowy: . Liz_: k Raelara: never thought of using a lock stitch to accommodate a reverse picot AKTATTER: HERE N START HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingbasics.html Gretta: .. Beadweaver: k Raelara: that fixes a flaw in my manger design ... for the next time I tat it AKTATTER: YES IT IS. FOR THE SHUTTLE TATTER IT IS SO EASY AKTATTER: WE DON'T HAVE TO BREAK STRIDE BUT KEEP THE SHUTTLE FLYING BACK AND FORTH Barb: k AKTATTER: LOOK AT MARK MYERS PAGE ON HOW TO BahmaTerri: .. AKTATTER: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/lock-stitch-chain/ picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: TO DO HAVE A HOW TO PAGE FOR THIS CHAIN JANE? AKTATTER: FOR THE NEEDLE TATTER, MORE EFFORT IS NEEDED AND IT MEANS REMOVING EACH FIRST HALF STITCH Raelara: that looks cool ... kinda like a spiral! AKTATTER: FROM THE NEEDLE BEFORE MAKING THE SECOND HALF STITCH UNFLIPPED AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/ntlockstitch.html meowy: oh that is neat how it's alternate colors on tatman's blog Jane Eb: Sorry, no I don't but I will when I've got further along with preparing the TIAS!! meowy: yay jane! AKTATTER: IF YOU SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE NEEDLE TATTING PAGE THERE ARE FOUR FANTASTIC SAMPLES BY ARK MYERS USING THELOCK STITCH CHAIN BahmaTerri: .. nstitcher: what is a scmr? krystledawne: self closing mock ring AKTATTER: JENNI, I LEARNED TO USE THAT LOCK STITCH FOR INWARD FACING PICOT FROM AN OLD GERMAN PATTERN, A FLOWER WITH LEAVES THAT LEANS TO THE RIGHT nstitcher: ahh thank you AKTATTER: AND THAT BRINGS US BACK TO THE LOCK STITCH SAMPLE BY OUR OWN JANE TOO maria alcant: k Raelara: it's a good thing to know AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/jelockstitchchainbutterflybluevari2.jpg meowy: . Jane Eb: SCMR is here http://www.e.n.e.btinternet.co.uk/SCMR.pdf AKTATTER: WHICH SHOWS SO CLEARLY THE USE OF COLOR FEATURED IN THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN BahmaTerri: not sure I follow with the needle inst picotsnkeys: k krystledawne: Jane's instructions are the best nstitcher AKTATTER: DO YOU SHUTTLE OR NEEDLE TAT TERRI? Barb: K AKTATTER: . BahmaTerri: take 1st half stitch off needle then do 2nd half stitch then just keep working? I do both but prefer needle. meowy: aww that butterfly is so cute AKTATTER: OK IT MEANS TO WRAP THE IST HALF STITCH AKTATTER: SLIDE IT OFF THE NEEDLE nstitcher: what is tias? AKTATTER: USE THE NEEDLE AS IN PHOTO 5 ON THE PAGE AKTATTER: HOLDING IT AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE OR AS IF YOU WERE SEWING BLANKET STITHC krystledawne: tat it and see Cynthia: Tat It And See you get a part of the pattern at a time AKTATTER: WRAP THE THREAD FROM THE NEEDLE ONTO THE THREAD FROM THE BALL DorcasAnn from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: YOU WILL HAVE TO DO IT A COUPLE OF TIMES TO GET THE FEEL OF IT TERRI AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ONTHE LOCK STITCH CHAIN? MJB: where did you go? MJB: Dorcas BahmaTerri: thanks Georgia; I'll practice that maria alcant: ... DorcasAnn: I clicked the wrong thing by mistake MJB: oh Cynthia: been there and felt silly too...welcome back AKTATTER: WELL I'VE BEEN KICKED OUT TWICE TODAY ALREADY! picotsnkeys: I think my confusion was hearing about a lock stitch that wasn't really a lock stitch. I can't remember where though.... AKTATTER: OK ONTO THE PATTERN OF THE WEEK AKTATTER: IF YOU COME ACROSS IT AGAIN MEL LET US KNOW AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzenflake.pd Liz_: k BahmaTerri: .. MJB: that is really pretty AKTATTER: PATTY DOWDEN HAS MODERNIZED AN ANTIQUE PATTERN FROM AN OLD GERMAN TATTING BOOK krystledawne: Mel, was it the shuttle join with the ball thread? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzenflake.pdf meowy: . MJB: Dorcas., did you find the pattern maria alcant: do you have abetter picture? G. i don´t know why is ........ Rosemarie from x.x.x.20 joined the chat 6 hours ago DorcasAnn: yes, thanks to you MJB Rosemarie: Hi All, sorrry I'm really late AKTATTER: WELCOME ROSE MARIE picotsnkeys: Hi Rosemarie! Rosemarie: Thank you Georgia MJB: Hello Rosemarie Rosemarie: Hi All Rosemarie: Rosemarie Weber, Baltimore, MD, USA, rweb53@verizon.net Cynthia: Maria I had that problem too...I'll send one from my files.... picotsnkeys: I like how the snowflake has such long "arms" AnneB at work: Hi Rosemarie! maria alcant: thanks cyn.... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzen51.jpg BahmaTerri: .. Cynthia: AK is quicker than I am... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzen2sm.jpg meowy: ty for the link for scmr that'll be hepful doing my snowman for thursday class hehe BahmaTerri: that's a better photo. thx. AKTATTER: ok the original german book is also posted onto maria alcant: it dosent matter Cyn,,,,,,she is the teacher!!!!! thanks AKTATTER: the public domain archive http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/NeueSchiffchenspitzen.pdf AKTATTER: it is 19 pages i think and a long download but full of good stuff maria alcant: that toke me a few time to load.....G... but i get it compleat... Beadweaver: k AKTATTER: great maria! Gretta: . picotsnkeys: k BahmaTerri: .. AKTATTER: patty notes that THIS PATTERN IS WORKED IN 3 ROUND Rosemarie: k AKTATTER: THE FIRST ROUND CREATES THE "ARMS" Barb: K AKTATTER: AND THE LAST TWO ROUNDS OUTLINE THE ARMS maria alcant: both are great...thanks G AKTATTER: OK PLEASE TURN TO THE DIAGRAM ON THE FIRST ROUND picotsnkeys: I'm imagining different colors between rounds...... AKTATTER: EVERY ONE GOTIT ONSCREEN OR PRINTED OFF? AKTATTER: IT WOULD MAKE IT STAND OUT MEL Raelara: y Gretta: y Barb: I like the little bursts of rings with picots on the ends of the arms. Really pretty AKTATTER: IT BEGINS WITH A VERY FAMILAR PATTERN nstitcher: ok Cynthia: k Beadweaver: k AKTATTER: TWO RINGS FACING OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS WITH A CHIAN BETWEEN EACH SET OF RINGS AKTATTER: YOU BEGIN WITH THE LEFT FACING RING maria alcant: k picotsnkeys: ah...a pattern us newbies should remember! AKTATTER: TURN YOUR PAGE SO THE BLUE RIGNS ARE HORIZONTAL AKTATTER: NOTE THE STARTING POINT IS MARKED 1a AKTATTER: TAT RING 1 AND RING 2, THEY DO NOT JOINED TO EACH OTHER RW AKTATTER: TAT THE CHAIN AnneB at work: Sorry, got lost in the pdf file of the Neue Shiffchenspitzen :-) AKTATTER: TAT THE SECOND SET OF RINGS meowy: . picotsnkeys: he he maria alcant: cut and tie????? AKTATTER: ITS A BIG DOWNLOAD AND FULL OF INTERETING PATTERNS ANNE Barb: l AKTATTER: TEH FIRST RING FACES LEFET AND JOINS TO RING 1B AnneB at work: Sure - have down loaded already :-) AKTATTER: NOW MARIA YOU KNOW YOU ARE NOT SUPPOSED TO USE BAD WORDS IN CLASS THIS IS A FAMILY ROOM AKTATTER: "CUT AND TIE" AND BAD WORDS Marie Smith from x.x.x.57 joined the chat 5 hours ago krystledawne: lol picotsnkeys: but useful when you're confused....lol AnneB at work: LOL AKTATTER: WE'LL AVOID THAT CUT AND TIE MARIA :) maria alcant: but...G.......! meowy: hehe i'm good ta cut and tie AKTATTER: NOW THE SECOND RING OF THE SECOND SET JUST FLOPS IN THE AIR AKTATTER: WHILE THE SECOND CHAIN IS TATTED Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Dec 8 02:28:05 2009 GMT (135 KB) Page 2 of 3 - Char 51211 to 102407 - Newest entries at the bottom maria alcant: great!...i wont say nothing else ... Barb: Stacey, I'm good at cut and toss in the trash can.. ROFL AKTATTER: OK THE PATTERN IS ONE WE ARE USED TO AND EASY TO DO krystledawne: Lol Barb! AKTATTER: AT THE POINT OF THE ARM WE RETURN Barb: :) BahmaTerri: .. picotsnkeys: oh oh.....a ring lose....to join my screw lose???? Beadweaver: k AKTATTER: AND EACH RING OF THE SET JOINS TO THE RINGS OPPOSITE SIDE AKTATTER: NOW AT THE POINT AKTATTER: PATTY STOPPED TO DOA LITTLE BUGALOO AKTATTER: AND USED THREE FLOATING RINGS FOR DECORATION AKTATTER: FOR THE NEEDLE TATTERS YOU WILL NEED TWO NEEDLES TO GET THAT FLOATING RINGS Cynthia: it actuall makes sense to me...lol I get lost easy but I got this one....figured out... AKTATTER: SHUTTLES TATTERS WILL HAVE STARTED THE PATTERN WITH TWO SHUTTLES WOUND CTM AND WILL SIMPLY SWITCH SHUTTLES krystledawne: Oh, I've got to go now. It's our anniversary so I bettr go love on my hubby before he goes to work AKTATTER: TO THROW OFF THE DECORATIE FLAOTING RINGS Rosemarie: k AKTATTER: BY KRYSTLE krystledawne: Later! AKTATTER: WE CLIMB INTO THE NEXT ARM WITH A SHORT CHAIN meowy: . Cynthia: Happy annicersary! AKTATTER: NOW WHAT ABOUT THAT NASTY "CUT AND TIE " MARIA NOTICES Cynthia: anniversary that is...Krystle MJB: How many years picotsnkeys: enjoy your family Krystle! AnneB at work: Happy anniversary, Krystle! AKTATTER: ON THE FIRST ARM WE COULD DO SOMETHING DIFFERENT BahmaTerri: .. Raelara: jump out with a split chain AKTATTER: BEGIN THE PATTERN NOT A RINGS 1a AKTATTER: BUT ADD IN THE CHAIN 5 THAT IS NEEDED maria alcant: nothing to say GGGGG AKTATTER: IF WE HAVE THAT SHORT CHAIN IN PLACE THEN WHEN WE COME AROUND TOT HE LAST SECTION nstitcher: it says blue lines are tatted frontside, red lines are tatted backside.... ?? AKTATTER: WE WILL NEED TO DO ONLY A SHORT SPLIT CHAIN OF 8 meowy: . AKTATTER: THE RED LINES BACK SIDE MEANS TO REVERSE THE ORDER OF THE DOUBLE STITCHES AKTATTER: SECOND AHLF STITCH FIRST FIRST HALF STITCH SECOND picotsnkeys: is that refered to as RODS? AKTATTER: THAT MAKES THE WORK HAVE A DEFINITE FRONT/BACK SIDE LOOK Cynthia: yes AKTATTER: OK WE WILL MEASURE OUT THE LENGTHO OF BARE THREAD FOR THE SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: AND THEN REDUCE IT A LITTLE (BECUASE SPLIT CHAINS ALWAYS STRETCH) AKTATTER: TAT THE TWO RINGS AND MAKE THOSE JOINS Claudia from x.x.x.102 joined the chat 5 hours ago AnneB at work: If you start with the chain next to the ring at the tip of the arm, you can climb out using a SR and avoid the split chain... AKTATTER: COME BAKC AND WRAP THE SPLIT CHAIN 8 DS nstitcher: thank you AKTATTER: CLIMBING OUT INTO THE SECOND ROUND picotsnkeys: I don't know....having a chain flop around along with the rings flopping makes me nervous! Claudia: hi!!..sorry im late AKTATTER: YES THAT WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT ALTERNATIVE STARTING POINT ANNE AKTATTER: WELCOME CLAUDIA ALWAYS GLAD TO SEE YOU maria alcant: what about staring in ring 2A the first round so i could finish with a split chain...? G BahmaTerri: .. AKTATTER: THE CHAINS OF THE SECOND ROUND JOIN TOTHE PICOTS O NTHE CHAINS picotsnkeys: Hi Claudia MJB: k maria alcant: Clau: seguro estabas platicando no???? jajja AKTATTER: ALSO POSSIVBLE MARIA AKTATTER: THE LAST ROUND ALSO HS THE FLOATING RINGS picotsnkeys: brb Claudia: no maria! jaja Rosemarie: k Barb: k BahmaTerri: .. Liz_: k AKTATTER: REMEMBER THE LOCK JOINS CALLED FOR IN THE PATTERN, MEAN THE SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN, USING THE SHUTTLE THREAD ONLY (OR THE NEEDLE THREAD ONLY) TO MAKE THE JOIN Cynthia: k meowy: . AKTATTER: NOW PATTY SAID THE SAMPLE WAS TATTED I NSIZE 80 AND WAS 5.5" OR 14 CM WIDE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html shuttle lock join maria alcant: but iam stock in the 3rd row...... Cynthia: what is the problme maria? picotsnkeys: that does look complicated Claudia: sorry.. did you have a pic of the snowflake ? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/throw2.htm AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzenflake.pdF AKTATTER: this is the remake by patty dowden Claudia: ah.. ok.. thanks g! maria alcant: i dont like to say bad word (tie &cut) si iam looking where to satr and thont do that Cyn... maria alcant: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzen51.jpg Claudia: gracias maria AKTATTER: above that was the floating ring how-2 BahmaTerri: .. Cynthia: I think when you get there it will make sense to jut continue on around still counter clockwise...does that make sense? Rosemarie: k Cynthia: just continue without the cut and tie (gasp I said it too!!!) AKTATTER: if it feels awkward you can always turn the work over and tat the other way AKTATTER: just remeber to use the reverse double stitch order (rods) where needed AKTATTER: ok questions?? Cynthia: it does feel funny at first but within just a mew minutes it makes sense...and is easier to do the joins too Barb: I really like those thown rings.. Those are so cute! maria alcant: no....starting in ring 3b the first row....probably will let do not do it...... maria alcant: G what is your feeling? meowy: . AKTATTER: let me look closely BahmaTerri: .. maria alcant: i will tatt it today......some time after eatting time..... Raelara: How did Mark do the picots in the lockstitch bookmark??? Liz_: k AKTATTER: ok if you go to chain 3B/4A picotsnkeys: ah...I know what was complicated looking....the thrown rings in round 1. At first glance, I thought round 2 had those rings in it AnneB at work: It is a nice snowflake :-) nstitcher: can a person also use a ball instead of a second shuttle? Claudia: - Cynthia: yes and use the slt when needed to keep the shuttle in the right place AKTATTER: those picots were done i thnik between firs and second half stitch old fashion style maria alcant: no....ring 3A it will do it...because i will use a split chain to go to the 2nd row AKTATTER: FOR MANY THINGS YOU CAN N BUT FOR FLOATING RINGS YOU NEED THE SECOND SHUTTLE AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU GO TO CHAIN 3b/4A YOU CAN START WITH A STARTE PICOT AND AVOID ALL CLIMB OUT PROBLEMS AKTATTER: AS ALL THREE CHIANS JOIN IN ONE SPOT Barb: k AKTATTER: ANY WAY IT IS GOOD TO KNOW THAT YOU ARE THINKING AHEAD Rosemarie: k AKTATTER: AND TRYING ALWAYS TO TAT WITHOUT CUTTING THE THREAD AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESITONS? Claudia: i dont like cutting and tie , too!! Cynthia: Patty did an awesome job on this for all of us BahmaTerri: :) Claudia: really lovely the snowflake.. have to study it! BahmaTerri: need to get back to work. Thanks Georgia and all! AKTATTER: NEITHER DO IT CLAUDIA AKTATTER: BYE TERRI meowy: i saved it for when i feel like i got more skill hehe maria alcant: i found the exact point....... Cynthia: Bye Terri Liz_: great lesson AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO PATTY FOR HER WORK, TO MARK AND JANE FOR THE SAMPLES AND INSPIRATION AnneB at work: Bye Terri! Barb: For needle.. Is 'auxillary thread the 'ball thread? meowy: thank you all! :) picotsnkeys: bye Terri AKTATTER: THIS INFO WILL REPEAT TONIGHT AT 8 PM FOR NEEDLE TATTING AND 8:30pM et FOR THE REGULAR ONLINE TATTING CLASS Barb: I'm looking at the thrown rings site that you gave.. and she says AKTATTER: DON'T FORGET BEGINNING TATTING ON THURSDAY Barb: Take the auxiliary thread and thread the needle....... Claudia: k Rosemarie: k maria alcant: by all girls....... Liz_: k maria alcant: ank you G Cynthia: bye maria picotsnkeys: bye maria Claudia: bye girlss!!! thanks!! Rosemarie: bye Maria maria alcant: clau ....te falto algo? Claudia: totalmente perdida!! maria nstitcher: bye nice to meet all of you! Cynthia: and for the beginner class please get your snowme in DorcasAnn: good by and thank you Cynthia: my typos are bad today....sorry Claudia: lo leo y te pregunto despues picotsnkeys: bye Dorcas maria alcant: que necesitas? Cynthia: Thank you Georgia and everyone else... Barb: Georgia or Cynthia. Does 'auxiliary' thread mean 'ball' thread? picotsnkeys: thank you Georgia. Good penultimate class of 09 Claudia: no hice tiempo a leerlo nomas.. AKTATTER: YES THAT AUX HREAD IS THE BALL THREAD Cynthia: I think so Barb: thank you georgia Barb: and cynthia AKTATTER: THERE IS ANOTHER PHOTOS OF THAT LET ME LOOK BARB BRB Barb: k Gretta: Barb are you the beginner class leader? maria alcant: G can i come to the evening class too? Liz_: k Barb: No.. Cynthia is the beginner class teacher Claudia: si podes Rosemarie: k maria alcant: haaaa que bueno......... Barb: Maria, you can come to any class any time.. over and over all year long Cynthia: yes you can come to the evening class tooo. many of us do maria Claudia: thanks for the class. ill try to be at evening class... AKTATTER: go to http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi Barb and sign up (free) or sing in AKTATTER: efveryone is welcome at every class Barb: I'm on my second round of beginner classes. I started a few weeks ago and I'm going through them a second time. picotsnkeys: some check the log as class time belongs to someone else ;) Claudia: nos vemos maria!!! maria alcant: I had to leave but i have to start tatting so i can check where to start this proyect....so Gretta: Ok, then Cynthia, I have a question. There was mention of a proficiency test a few lessons back, could I get a copy of it? maria alcant: see you later!!!! AKTATTER: yes gretta picotsnkeys: . Barb: ty Georgia.. yes I signed in. :) Cynthia: only when you are ready to take the test. Georgia will send it to you...as it is for needle tatters mainly. I'm trying to do one for the shuttle beginners but it is AKTATTER: for needle tatting gretta? Gretta: yes AKTATTER: just email me the request to AKTATTER@aol.com Cynthia: harder than it sounds... Gretta: thanks Gretta: Bye and thanks for the class picotsnkeys: it took me two tries, but I think the second one I sent is what you're looking for. Let me know though..... AnneB at work: Want help for that one Cynthia? AKTATTER: look under advanced needle tatting techs barb Barb: k AKTATTER: bye gretta Cynthia: of course Anne I always appreciate help! Thanks Cynthia: we can chat about it later...I'm still getting my ideas together AKTATTER: then go to floating rings one needle AnneB at work: Please remind me by e-mail Cynthia AKTATTER: Roger also discusses it in converting shuttle to needle techs Cynthia: I will no problem on that...My mind may be a bit scattered too for a bit AKTATTER: ok last call for questions? AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY Cynthia: Happy Holidays everyone.... picotsnkeys: did you receive my needle tatting exam picture? Rosemarie: I was too late today, I'll check in tonight. Thanks for the class! Cynthia: just in case we don't connect at the last class AnneB at work: I have a problem on remembering between pc-s AKTATTER: PROBASBLY SO MEL I WILL LOOK FOR IT Barb: thanks Georgia.. got it :) picotsnkeys: thanks.. AKTATTER: HAPPY TATTING ALL BYE FOR ALL AnneB at work: Bye Georgia! Barb: ty for the class Georgia :) picotsnkeys: bye Georgia...safe and happy Holidays to you! Cynthia: Bye all and Happy Tatting picotsnkeys: hugs to you and your family Cynthia...:) Barb: Cyn, how is your father in law? AnneB at work: Happy Holidays to all! Barb: Happy Holidays to you too Anne :) picotsnkeys: are the cookies all baked Anne? Cynthia: holding on...but realistically it won't be very long just days or a couple weeks at most Cynthia: without the tatting classes and tatting I'd go crazy.... Barb: Oh hon. I'm so sorry. :( picotsnkeys: are the girls making it through finals alright? AnneB at work: I'll probably stop by our class room (here) on "non-class" Thursdays, just to see if anybody else is around. Barb: OH that's a good idea Anne.. Would it be at regular times? Cynthia: so far they are...we had to tell them but only that he wasn't doing as welll as he had been. I figure if he makes it til Friday that will be a easier on the kids. He is theonly grandfather they knew Barb: I might check in too then. Even if there is no class we can all chat and have fun anyway. :) AnneB at work: Yes - but only for the first class - I am at sleep at the "afternoon"-class even at holidays Barb: ok Anne Barb: You know Cynthia, some times that's the best way. Barb: I know that even if a person passes some docs don't always tell the family right away. They will come out in incriments. They'll come out and say.. HE isn't doing too good. picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 5 hours ago Cynthia: I try to drop by regular class times too if I have computer access as we may be in Ohio ...and will be there the week between Christmas and New Years...and I don't know if I can use the comptuer Barb: Then wait a few minutes and go back out and say.. He's failing right now. Barb: And then come out again and finally say that he passed. some docs think picotsnkeys: hang in there Cynthia! Barb: it's easier on the family to do it that way. Cynthia: well Lawson is at home under hospice care. His wife is there all the time...it is just very hard on Doug Barb: So it's good that you are not telling the girls everything right now. AnneB at work: My thought are with you and your familly Cynthia! picotsnkeys: He sounds very family oriented. Barb: e you say, let them get through their finals first. Cynthia: I figure they will know what is happening but they don't need to know how bad...they know he has terminal cancer just not how long he has... Barb: Yes, I know how it is. Is Doug going to go back before he passes or??? Cynthia: Thank you everyone for your support. Cynthia: Doug was there at Thanksgiving and his Dad was doing great then up and about but still weak... Barb: We all need hugs and support at times. picotsnkeys: I wish my camera was working so I could send you my photo of the Star of David for comment. Alas, it's broken after 5 years of use! Barb: Star of David? Tatting or?? Cynthia: I can tell you things I can't share with Doug as he is hurting too much right now AnneB at work: I was travelling when the last of my Grandfathers passed. I was travelling at the moment, but did not learn about it until I returned home (befor mobile phones). Somehow it was better not knowing while not being at home. Cynthia: I understand.... Barb: I understand Anne picotsnkeys: I agree Anne. Home is where hurt can be healed best. Cynthia: Mel do you have a scanner or access to one at work or hubby's work? picotsnkeys: no....:( picotsnkeys: I could run up to Kinko's and spend $10. Barb: Maybe you'll get a new camera for the Holidays if you hint hard enough?? Cynthia: drat sometimes the dr's office will even do it....NO that is crazy.... Barb: $10 for a picture. Yikes! AnneB at work: Whaty about a mobile phone with camera, Mel? picotsnkeys: Well, the camera can be repaired for free since it is a "known issue" that fails oftern. picotsnkeys: I may try my phone. The picture will be fuzzy, but could work.... Barb: Ahh.. I had that problem with my first digital camera. Cynthia: I need to run as the truck gets out of the shop after being gone since before Thanksgiving! major transmission issue...theshop closes at 4 and it is almost 20 mins to get there.... picotsnkeys: Sometimes Canon has just been replacing them with a new camera. Hope, hope??? Cynthia: Phone pics do work...just send to my email picotsnkeys: drive safe.... Barb: I sent it back and they sent me another referbished one and it broke too within two weeks. So I gave up and got another one. Cynthia: peace and see you tonight or Thursday or both...lol picotsnkeys: peace... AnneB at work: See you later Cynthia, and take care ! picotsnkeys: we'll be traveling to Italy in April, so I want to make sure it will work then....or maybe get a video camera??? Barb: hugs to you AnneB at work: You can make short videos with most new digit al cameras ;-) Barb: Oh my.. Itally. How lucky you are! Barb: A video would be wonderful to have for memories. Barb: Tak both. Barb: oops Barb: take both picotsnkeys: I'm getting excited. It will be only my second time in Europe picotsnkeys: My first ever in Italy. picotsnkeys: DH is half Italian, so we're both going! AnneB at work: Hm - I'm often in Europe LOL picotsnkeys: lol Barb: I have never been anywhere except the USA and Canada. picotsnkeys: I'm nervous about the language. I tend to blurt out French when I need to respond to someone speaking a foreign language. Barb: I was scheduled to teach beadwork in Irealand, but that was when my hubby had his stroke in 2004. It would have been my first time over there. picotsnkeys: how sad. AnneB at work: I have been in USA twice, but never in Canada Barb: LIfe happens. :) picotsnkeys: well said Barb: When were you here Anne? AnneB at work: Oh - 199something -91 I think picotsnkeys: back when travel was much easier! picotsnkeys: the good news is we'll be with a large group most of the time. AnneB at work: Got to observe star at the MacDonald Observatory in Texas, then came back for vacation same year (in Michigan) AnneB at work: Being in a group makes it easier. Barb: gotta run.. have phone call from my daughter.. hugs to you all picotsnkeys: the bad news is: most of the group will be snotty American kids! picotsnkeys: bye Barb. AnneB at work: LOL - you'll just have to ignore them AnneB at work: Bye Barb! picotsnkeys: the 2 worst kids will have their parents there, so I can just ignore them. whew picotsnkeys: Will you be able to visit your folks at Christmas? AnneB at work: Not a vacation then lol AnneB at work: Yes - I 'leave for my parents the 20th and stay at their plase until January 1st picotsnkeys: Do you do any solstice celebration? AnneB at work: No - not if you don't count Christmas as part Solstice LOL Barb from x.x.x.12 left the chat 4 hours ago AnneB at work: We do celebrate the return of the sun in January though picotsnkeys: I'm scheming to mark the daylight very quietly with something....just as a variety to the Christmas stress. picotsnkeys: Since the kids are older and there won't be that many gifts to unwrap this year....just something new.... AnneB at work: I need to hear the right son on the radio though picotsnkeys: lol picotsnkeys: ah, look at the time! picotsnkeys: Gotta run and pick up the cello....with the kid too.... picotsnkeys: Hope to check in this week again. AnneB at work: Ok - see you later this year - or next year! AnneB at work: Bye and take care! picotsnkeys: ooooo.....scary thought! picotsnkeys: bye! picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 left the chat 4 hours ago AnneB at work from x.x.x.210 left the chat 4 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.218 joined the chat 91 minutes ago AKTATTER: evening session Dec. 7, 2009 needle tatting Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 90 minutes ago Cynthia: Hi I'm back... AKTATTER: HI Cyn, just going to check aol see if anyone needs the link brb Cynthia: k maria alcant from x.x.x.247 joined the chat 88 minutes ago maria alcant: hi! maria alcant: i will have to leave...my housban get early today andhe want´s to go dinner out ...so Cynthia: Hi Maria... Cynthia: what a nice treat...out to dinner... do you have any questions I can try to help with? maria alcant: G and Cun...I have been tattin the last proyect starting in ring 4a so a think i wont need to (bad words) until a finish... AKTATTER: hello again Maria maria alcant: i will replace baterries in my board it eats letters... AKTATTER: that is super Maria, the more of that "#$@#%@" that we can eliminate the better our tatting is Ibelieve maria alcant: do you want to come Cyn????? maria alcant: and G'''' AKTATTER: night out on the town good for you! AKTATTER: we had beans and franks tonight with donuts for dessert maria alcant: yes...he always arrive some time near 9 pm and now is 7 so........I will Go!!!!!! Cynthia: Wish I could but I made kind of fajitas...not real just kind of like Cynthia: they were good tho... maria alcant: Ok so....... I will send you both my tatt as soon as I finish it witout (?) AKTATTER: I used to enjoy fajitas, too but I can't eat spicy food anymore messes up my stomach, ah the sorrows of old age AKTATTER: ok Maria I will be watching for it maria alcant: don´t include chile(pepper)...only onion AKTATTER: gretta asked the the needle tatting test today Cyn, she is feeling good about her tatting for certain Cynthia: so will I maria alcant: Ok Ladies BY... maria alcant: have a nice class ... Cynthia: Adios...all my Spanish AKTATTER: bye maria alcant: great Cyn........ADIOS A LAS DOS! by both! Cynthia: I'm so glad Gretta is feeling good about her tatting... AKTATTER: :) Cynthia: :) AKTATTER: anything I can do for you Cynthia? Cynthia: I had a Spanish speaking client who said I did good "Hola, Adios, Tacos, Fajitas and Burritos." I had 5 words!!! AKTATTER: I'll stop by Thurs of course AKTATTER: lol Cynthia: no I just so enjoy taking to tatters a good diversion on what is going so far away... AKTATTER: in all the languages that I have studied, I always learn two phrases first, "how much does it cost?" and "where is the toilet?" Cynthia: Some times NE Ohio feels as far away as the moon... Cynthia: good questions...but you see I have more food words...LOL AKTATTER: i felt that way when we were still in Alaska and the old folks down here Cynthia: Doug is doing OK...he's having trouble sleeping and concentrating...but doesn't want to go sit like a vulture either...he is torn but coping Cynthia: I'm just here as support... AKTATTER: that is a big part of it AKTATTER: for a smile see: http://www.akbizmag.com/latest-issue.html Wally from x.x.x.221 joined the chat 75 minutes ago Wally: G' night everyone Cynthia: Beth says the best words to learn are "where is the American Embasy" followed by I don't speak________ (what ever languge) Wally: that's true cynthia. the first thing i learned in arabic was i don't speak arabic, lol AKTATTER: hello Wally! Wally: hi g! AKTATTER: wally shurkan or shukran? Wally: shukran AKTATTER: I wasn't sure how to spell but on hist channel AKTATTER: watching the kv 63 tomb special i heard it said when tea was served and I recognized it! thanks for teaching me a new word AKTATTER: wally my little bro again : http://www.akbizmag.com/latest-issue.html Wally: i remember a few words. Aw.. I would have love to see that special! Wally: Cool!!! AKTATTER: I am sure it will replay Cynthia: Awesome article but I figured it was as much hype as possible after seeing a couple of the other shows on logging--something we know a bit about... AKTATTER: george says the "dash for the cash" the history channel guys made up AKTATTER: the drivers just make a many trips as they safely can AKTATTER: george really is settling in well butit was been a very bad week end for him Cynthia: Saying I don't speak what ever language with a smile can really help ease a bad situation. AKTATTER: Thurs, Fri and Sat, each day one of the truck drivers he has worked with for years has passed away. 3!! I am so glad he is off the road Cynthia: If they don't add some hype why watch... Wally: Wow! 3 in a week! that's very harsh Cynthia: Give him a hug for all of us...I understand what that is like...a real downer... AKTATTER: I was so afraid he would stay too long out onthe road AKTATTER: I will Wally: I get out of situtations from languages easily. I just start stuttering which is what really comes out of my mouth when I AKTATTER: Cyn have you worked with Madeleine elise@compprime.com ?? Wally: asked something in arabic. Cynthia: someday we'll stop in again and I'll see if I can get a pic with him...I don't often get to see TV stars that I would work with Wally: they know I'm amarican fast AKTATTER: sure thing AKTATTER: right Wally, I was once told that I even "smile" american Wally: that's a new one for me. lol Cynthia: No the name doesn't ring a bell...and yes Americans do smile in American... AKTATTER: American women shake hands and look people in the eyes usually and other cultures the women are more likely to smile and nod I read Cynthia: I was told it is a more "open, approachable" smile than Europeans do Katie Verna/occhitat from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 65 minutes ago Wally: aw... wondering how is the latin smile Katie Verna/occhitat: Hello, tatters! AKTATTER: welcome katie! AKTATTER: sexy probably lol Wally: big grin and all kiss and hug Cynthia: Hi Katie Wally: we like to kiss and hug a lot Wally: hi kathie Katie Verna/occhitat: Hi, all! Wally: yuck. i need to add tea to my iced tea. it's all watery Cynthia: Georgia I must admit when you said stop by I about fainted....a tatting star saying to me stop by....I didn't believe I could...but you are such a caring lady you made me feel at home Cynthia: I bet your brother is just as nice... Cynthia: Georgia I hope you didn't faint! Wally: after thanksgiving has been difficult to get back in track with the diet. ugh1 Wally: you visited G? erin in tenn. from x.x.x.100 joined the chat 60 minutes ago Wally: hi erin! erin in tenn.: Hello, all! AKTATTER: she sure did AKTATTER: welcome erin erin in tenn.: Hi, Georgia! Wally: how is TN? Hope G from x.x.x.93 joined the chat 59 minutes ago Wally: Hi Hopie! Cynthia: yes I did...and Hi Erin and Hope erin in tenn.: Cold, Wally! We had a couple of inches of snow Saturday. Hope G: llo all erin in tenn.: Hi, Hope! Katie Verna/occhitat: hi, Hopie! Hope G: hey Katie erin in tenn.: Hi, Cynthia! Wally: I wanna go!!! Today was scorching 91 here in PR erin in tenn.: Hello, Katie! AKTATTER: cynthia, hope green, mary harris, ruth perry, dorcas newkirk, maryjane brittingham, elizabeth fro m kentucky,Dorotha, and a couple of others had all stopped by or overnighted erin in tenn.: Wow - that's a little warm for my taste. AKTATTER: all tatters are welcome AKTATTER: Hopeie!! Cynthia: BRRRRRRRRRR! I know how bad that would have been in Kentucky Hope G: hey girl... Gail from x.x.x.90 joined the chat 58 minutes ago stitchingsharon from x.x.x.32 joined the chat 58 minutes ago Gail: Evening all Cynthia: I know but I was still s bit star shocked! I'm trying to get over it...you welcomed and I felt so blessed! Wally: i want to move back to USA and I'm thinking in TN, may be jacksonville, near a SIL AKTATTER: more news on big george http://www.akbizmag.com/latest-issue.html AKTATTER: welcome sharon, did you see your heart? hi ya Gail AKTATTER: oh that would be close to me wally only a few hours away Wally: The heart on the page is so pretty! I love the colors Cynthia: Hi Sharon and Gail AKTATTER: i liked carolyn work on the tudor rose pattern by rosemarie peel too Hope G: where is the pattern for the heart?? it is so nice! Wally: the rose too. I haven't done it in a while stitchingsharon: hello everyone. Gail: Hi, Cynthia stitchingsharon: I managed to get the heart posted in NSAN, and it's now on my blog. Hope G: what is your blog addy sharon?? Wally: Is it the one on Mary Konior's book of diagrams Gail: Latin smile makes me feel welcome erin in tenn.: Come on over, Wally! Georgia, that's a nice article! stitchingsharon: Queen of hearts. It's in Maey Konior's Tatting with visual patterns Wally: i did it for my husband. :) Cynthia: All smiles make me feel welcome so heres a couple :) :) Beadweaver from x.x.x.246 joined the chat 53 minutes ago AKTATTER: I wish George had smiled more lol Created at Chatzy.com »The Online Tatting Class« as of Tue Dec 8 02:28:36 2009 GMT (135 KB) Page 3 of 3 - Char 102408 to 138742 - Newest entries at the bottom Beadweaver: hello everyone AKTATTER: open chat for 6 more min AKTATTER: welcome bead stitchingsharon: stitchingbysharon,.blogspot.com Gail: Love the heart, Sharon AKTATTER: brb checking to see if anyone needs help to get here Cynthia: I have a couple snowmen so far and the beginners are doing a good job of figuring out the challenge! Wally: Aw.... Love your kitty!!! She's so cute AKTATTER: need some input on this pattern btw why is there an ss after the scmr is closed? I don't think it is necesssary do you? http://www.gr8shuttles.com/scmr_heart.html Katie Verna/occhitat from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 50 minutes ago nstitcher from x.x.x.203 joined the chat 50 minutes ago Wally: I think it's innecesary but a SLT or half stitch is good to keep the SCMR closed stitchingsharon: I hollered for help on that heart -- Reit and several others told me to use 2 shuttles -- and boy did that make a difference in transitioning from ring to chain and chains that change direction. Gail from x.x.x.90 joined the chat 49 minutes ago erin in tenn.: I concur, Georgia. That would take one in the wrong direction with the wrong color Beadweaver: k Hope G from x.x.x.93 joined the chat 48 minutes ago Cynthia: k Paule from x.x.x.147 joined the chat 47 minutes ago AKTATTER: ok just wanted to be sure that pattern has been posted for a long time but a newbie just emailed me with confusion on why the color was messing up AKTATTER: ok shalle we get started? AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Paule: Allo everyone! AKTATTER: GEORGIIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA Hope G: hope green love2tat@gmail.com Tucson Az AKTATTER: WELCOME PAULE nstitcher: hello erin in tenn.: erin holloway, tataconic@bellsouth.net, knoxville, tn usa Beadweaver: Debbie Witenski Pennsylvania USA debbie.witenski@gmail.com -- needle stitchingsharon: Sharon Fawns Kentucky USA stitchingsharon@hughes.net AKTATTER: OH GROAN, I EVEN TYPED MY OWN NAME WRONG, WOE IS ME! Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK, USA, brasthatfit@yahoocom nstitcher: denver co Paule: Paule Primeau boucherville quebec canada toujoursvivante@videotron.ca Wally: Wally Sosa, needledreams@yahoo.comPR Katie Verna/occhitat: katie verna, Creedmoor nc, katie@r-v-r.com AKTATTER: TONIGHT WE ARE DISCUSSING THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN nstitcher: nstitcher@gmail.com Gail: Gail Hayes, llawen1@yahoo.com, Maylene, AL Shuttle AKTATTER: WE HAVE PHOTOS POSTED FOR BOTH SHUTTLE AND NEEDLE TATTING Paule: Sharon I just printed your heart: that's a heart after my heart! AKTATTER: THE BASIC CONCEPT IS TO TAT ONE HALF STITCH FLIPPED AKTATTER: AND THE SECOND HALF STITCH NOT FLIPPED Hope G: Sharon- I loved your heart & the colors... but your cat!!!!! awesome AKTATTER: THE SHUTTLE TATTER THIS IS SO EASY AKTATTER: FOR THE NEEDLE TATTER IT IS MUCH MORE TIME CONSUMING AKTATTER: BUT THE EFFECT IS STRIKING Cynthia: or challenging when you don't want it to lock...lol AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/ntlockstitch.html Katie Verna/occhitat: l Paule: Cat? AKTATTER: FOR NEEDLE TATTING, WRAP THE 1HS ON THE NEEDLE AS NORMAL stitchingsharon: Thanks all. I'm trying to do better at documenting my tatting efforts. Boiokie was a stray kitten I picked up at the library on a rainy sunday morning. AKTATTER: SLIDE THE HALF STITCH OFF THE NEEDLE SEE PHOTO 2 AKTATTER: NOW WRAP THE THREAD FROM THE NEEDLE AROUND THE THREAD FROM THE BALL AS IN PHOTO 3 AKTATTER: CONTINUE TO ALTERNATE MAKING SURE TO SLIDE THE 1HS OFF THE NEEDLE BEFORE DOING THE 2HS, AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE PATERN START IN PHOTO 4 AKTATTER: THE METHOD FOR USING THE NEEDLE IS WRAP THE 2HS IS IN THE NEXT PHOTO AKTATTER: YOU HOLD THE NEDLE AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE OR AS AKTATTER: IF YOU WERE SEWING THE BLANKET STITCH AKTATTER: FOR THE SHUTTLE AKTATTER: http://tatmantats.wordpress.com/lock-stitch-chain/ Beadweaver from x.x.x.246 joined the chat 41 minutes ago AKTATTER: WITHOUT BREAKING THE RYTHYM AKTATTER: TAT THE 1HS AKTATTER: WRAP THE 2HS AKTATTER: TAT THE 1HS AKTATTER: WRAP THE 2HS AKTATTER: TO YOUR HEAR'TS CONTENT (NO PUN INTENDED) AKTATTER: IN THE 5TH POHTO ON MARK'S PAGE AKTATTER: HIS GRAPHIC SHOWS THE POSITION OF THE OPPOSING HALF STITCHES CLEARLY AKTATTER: AND THE LAST PHOTO SHOWS THE START OF THE PATTERN AKTATTER: BUT IT YOU WANT TO GET YOUR SOCK WOWED OFF Hope G: k Hope G: too cold to wow my socks!!! AKTATTER: GO BACK TO THE BOTTOM OF http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/ntlockstitch.html stitchingsharon: That looks like what I was doing instead of the Pearl chain at ZigZag AKTATTER: THERE YOU CAN SEE THE LOCK STITH CHAIN IN MARK'S BOKMARK AKTATTER: WELL THAT JUST MADE IT A DESIGN VARIATION SHARON :)\ Gail: k Claudia from x.x.x.102 joined the chat 38 minutes ago AKTATTER: HE ALSO USED THE LSCH IN THE WHITE SNOWFLAKE BUT IT SHOWS TO LESS ADVANTAGE Claudia: hello everybody AKTATTER: WELCOME CLAUDIA WE ARE ADMIRING MARK MYERS' WORK ON THEBOTTOM OF http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/ntlockstitch.html AKTATTER: THE EFFECT IS STUNNING IN THE HEART AKTATTER: NOTE THE TWO CLUNY LEAVES AND THE LINES OF HALF CLOSED RINGS WHICH WE WILL BE STUDYING NEXT WEEK TOO AKTATTER: AND DON'T MISS JANE'S BUTTERFLY Claudia: thanks .. im just looking at it AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/jelockstitchchainbutterflybluevari2.jpg Hope G: k erin in tenn.: k AKTATTER: THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN IS HIGHLY VISIBLE IN THE CHAIN BETWEEN THE TWO BUTTERFLIES Beadweaver: k Claudia: beautiful butterfly!! AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN? Hope G: It has such nice colorplay Wally: is the butterfly written? stitchingsharon: Love that butterfly -- and she used one of my favorite colors from HH Lizbeth Carribean Wally: I have that thread too Wally: very lov3ely erin in tenn.: I always get confused as to the second (unflipped) half stitch - do you do a first half unwrapped, or a second half unwrapped? I note Mark did the second half. AKTATTER: bIRGIT PHELPS HAS AN ANGEL WITH A FEW CHAINS ONIT THAT YOU MIGHT LIKE TO TYR USING THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN OUT ON Claudia: hi wally!! nice to see you here!! AKTATTER: http://www.birgitstatting.com/simpleangel.html Cynthia: the lockstitch chain is what beginners struggle to quit doing...I won't tell if you won't that there is a use for them too! Hope G: k Wally: Hola Claudia AKTATTER: THERE IS A VARIATION BELOW IT BY MARTHA ESS ALSO nstitcher: the lockstitch chain is not the same as the josephine knot, correct? Wally: I was outside helping mom with xmas lights. have to read the log. :-) Needlework.Eng from x.x.x.229 joined the chat 33 minutes ago AKTATTER: NO N IT IS NOT IT IS MUCH DIFFERENT IN THAT THE JK USES ONLY ONE HALF STITCH OVER AND OVER Gail: k Needlework.Eng: Sorry, I'm late AKTATTER: THE LOCK STITCH CHAIN ALTERNATES BETWEEN A FIRS HALF STITCH TATTED AKTATTER: AND TEH SECOND HALF STITCH WRAPPED AKTATTER: OR UNFLIPPED nstitcher: ok, now I am catching on... AKTATTER: WELCOME ENG Claudia: hi eng Needlework.Eng: hi all Beadweaver: brb AKTATTER: LOOK HERE N FOR MORE INFO ON THE JK http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk. AKTATTER: OK THEN LET'S LOOK AT THE SNOWFLAKE ADAPTATION BY PATTY DOWDEN erin in tenn.: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzenflake.pdF AKTATTER: THE ORIGINAL PATTERN IS FROM THE GERMAN ANTIQUE BOOK "NEUE SCHIFFCHENSPITZE" AKTATTER: THIS IS ABOUT 19 PAGES AND IS A VERY LONG DOWNLOAD Hope G: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/NeueSchiffchenspitzen.pdf Wally: love that book! I have made 2 of the patterns already Cynthia: but well worth it AKTATTER: OH WALLY HAVE YOU PHOTOS POSTED?? Gail: Georgia, your first link won't link:-( AKTATTER: THE PATTERNN IS MADE IN THREE ROUNDS Wally: no. :-( but I can find them later. I need to connect the external hd AKTATTER: BUT HORRORS OF HORRORS POOR PATTY HAS US CUTTING AND TYING OFF EACH ROUND erin in tenn.: Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzenflake.pdf Paule: Ican't beleive that! AKTATTER: OH DEAR IS THAT A SOCIAL COMMENT ERIN? AKTATTER: WELL WE KNOW NOW THAT THERE ARE WAYS TO AVOID THAT AKTATTER: SO LET;S TAKE A CLOSE LOOK AT IT Claudia: as i said before.. dont lie cutting and hiding!!! erin in tenn.: Just added for dramatic impact. Claudia: like Wally: I made the collar on page 5 (pdf)and the hanky on page 7 (pdf) Gail: k Beadweaver: k AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE LINKS WALLY PLEASE SHARE :) stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: THE POINTS OF THE ARMS BEGIN WITH THE TRADITIONAL PATTERN AKTATTER: TWO OPPOSING RINGS ALTERNATING WITH A CHAIN AKTATTER: SECOND RING JOINS TO THE FIRST RING OF THE NEXT SET Hope G: k AKTATTER: AT THE POINT OF THE ARM AKTATTER: THERE ARE 3 FLOATING RINGS AKTATTER: NOW SHUTTLE TATTERS WILL HAVE STARTED THE PATTERN Claudia: k AKTATTER: WITH TWO SHUTTLES WOUND CTM AKTATTER: SO WE WILL JUST SWITCH SHUTTTLES AND THROW OFF THE FLOATING RINGS AS WE COME TO THEM AKTATTER: BUT THE NEEDLE TATTERS WILL HAVE TO PAUSE AND BRING A SECOND NEEDLE INTO PLAY stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: THERE ARE GOOD POHTOS SHOWING HOW TO DO THIS AKTATTER: THE OLD LESSON http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/throw2.html AKTATTER: THE NEWER LESSON BY ROGER LLYOD AKA FREEDMAN http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi AKTATTER: SIGN IN OR SIGN UP ON THE HOME PAGE AKTATTER: THEN GO TO ADVANCED TECHS AKTATTER: AND LOOK FOR THE FLOATING RINGS LESSON AKTATTER: SO ALL IS WELL AS WE DO ARM AFTER ARM JOINING THE OPPOSITE SIDES TOGETHER ON THE RETURN AKTATTER: BUT THEN AKTATTER: THE ROUND ENDS Hope G from x.x.x.93 joined the chat 24 minutes ago AKTATTER: AND THER E IT IS BIG AS ALL GET OUT AKTATTER: A CUT AND TIE AKTATTER: DETAILED PHOTOS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzen51.jpg Paule: And die... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdenneueschiffchenspitzen2sm.jpg AKTATTER: LOL WELL ITS NOT THAT DRASTIC PAULE ROFL AKTATTER: THE NEXT TWO ROUNDS USE THE SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN TO JOIN TO THE PICOTS OF THE CHAINS INROUND 1 Claudia: this photo is a little different than the pdf AKTATTER: www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html AKTATTER: AND THE ALST ROUND AHS FLOATING RINGS AGAIN Hope G: k AKTATTER: YEP AKTATTER: SO WE COULD START THIS PATTERN AT A DIFFERENT SPOT TO AVOID THE CUT TIE AKTATTER: BUT MY OH MY WHERE WOULD THAT BE? Cynthia: k AKTATTER: ANYONE GOT A SUGGESTION? AKTATTER: AND PLEASE REMEMBER THIS IS A FAMILY ROOM stitchingsharon: k nstitcher: I know I am new here, but what is the issue with cut and tie? Beadweaver: k AKTATTER: I THOGUHT FIRST ABOUT DOING THE SMALL CHAIN BEFORE RING 1a AKTATTER: AHHHHHHHHH Gail from x.x.x.90 joined the chat 20 minutes ago Paule: Now you explain G.! Cynthia: I'd prbably start at the ch 5 at the end....and do it with a paperclip to keep from closing the end AKTATTER: OUR TATTING LOOKS MUCH NICE WITHOUT THE STOPS AND STARTS AND THE KNOTS AND HIDING ALL THEENDS stitchingsharon: Cut and tie -- extra work - to be avoided at all costs Wally: I think I would start at the point Claudia: the patter can begin the ring before the little chain Claudia: before the 5 ds chain AKTATTER: IT HAS BEEN THE MISSION OF THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS TO TEACH EVERYONE TATER HOW TO TAT FROM CENTER TO OUTSIDE OR FROM ROW TO ROW WITHOUT HAVING TO CUT THE THREAD Paule: Little chain? nstitcher: oh yes I aggree, tyeing down the ends is a pain.... AKTATTER: RIGH CYNTHIA A STARTE PICOT WOULD DO JUST FINE BUT THEN WE ARE FACING A SPLIT CHAIN SITUATION Hope G: k Needlework.Eng: I appreciate the help - hate ends AKTATTER: BETWEEN EACH ARM PAULE IS A 5 DS CHAIN Katie Verna/occhitat: and you have been assiduous, sweet GA. erin in tenn.: I think I would start at 2a AKTATTER: SO THERE WAS TALK ABOUT STARTING AT RING 4 a ALSO AKTATTER: HMMMM "ASSIUOUS" THAT BETTER BE A NICE WORD KATIE ROFL AKTATTER: AND IT IS NOT A BAD IDEAD erin in tenn.: It starts with "ass" - I'm wondering. . . erin in tenn.: ;-) AKTATTER: YOU CAN CLIMB OUT WITH THE SPLIT RING AKTATTER: :) Wally: yeah 4a, that where i would start Paule: I still have not located the 5 ds chain... AKTATTER: I THOUGHT THAT I WOULD TRY CLIMBING OUT Cynthia: I finally mastered them and can see a use for them now...those sneaky split chains... AKTATTER: AT THE PICOT BETWEEN CHAIN 3b AND 4A AKTATTER: THEN THERE ARE NO SPLIT CHAINS NO SPLIT RINGS AND NO CUT AND TIES AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM ON ROUND 1 PUALE AKTATTER: GO TOTHE YELLOW STAR = START AT 1a erin in tenn.: That looks good, Wally. Paule: AH! AKTATTER: LOOK TO THE LEFT TO THE RING OPPOSITE AKTATTER: THEN THE SHORT 5 DS CHAIN Paule: TY AKTATTER: OK THEN WE ARE ALL AGREED Cynthia: I see the better way like you said.... AKTATTER: WE WILL AVOID THE CUT AND TIE ONCE AGAIN !! AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS?? Gail: Think I'll be talking to myself. A LOT Katie Verna/occhitat: GA, you're a fast mover. Not bad for being ass-iduous, huh? AKTATTER: JOIN THE CLLUB I DO THAT ALL THE TIMNE Katie Verna/occhitat: Drag us all along! AKTATTER: ROFL THANKS KATIE....ER I THINK Paule: A lot of questions! AKTATTER: WELL IT HAS BEENA LONG 10 YEARS BUT WORTHWHILE Gail: Have you started answering yourself? erin in tenn.: I'm glad Patty chose that book - the tatting really has a different look to it. AKTATTER: YOU KNOW THAT NEXT WEEK IS THE LAST LESSON FOR THIS YEAR Katie Verna/occhitat: Bless you, GA AKTATTER: YES GAIL THAT SCARES ME A BIT, BUT SO FAR I'VE GOTTEN GOOD ADVICE AKTATTER: PATTS MADE THIS SAMPLE IN SIZE 80 THREAD AND IT IS 5.5" OR ABOUT 14 CM Cynthia: Without you where would we be???You are awesome Georgia Paule: If you start at 1A and climb out between 3B and 4A what happens to the rest of round 1? Wally: Wondering how big will be made in #10. :-) Gail: Me too. Even make sense most of the time AKTATTER: AH SHUCKS MAAM I AM SO HAPPY TO HAVE YOU ALL HERE TO SHARE THESE WONDERFUL PATTERNS AND THE GENEROSITY OF EVERYONE IN TCLASS IS AMAZING AKTATTER: YOU CAN'T DO THAT PAULE AND MAKE IT WORK AKTATTER: IT IS ONE OR THE OTHER Paule: I don't ubderstand... AKTATTER: START A 1A AND DO THE CUT AND TIE OR TRY THE SPLIT CHAIN Wally: I will check if I find the pattern I re wrote for the doily on page 12 with the blocks going in different directions. Wally: it was a real challenge! Hope G: k AKTATTER: OR START AT CHAIN 3B/4A WITH A STARTER PICOT AND AVOID ALLSPLIT CHAINS AND SPLIT RINGS AKTATTER: THANKS WALLY THAT WOULD BE GREAT AKTATTER: OK NOW PAULE? Wally: ew... i don't like to start with chains Paule: Not sure... AKTATTER: OK LOOK AT THE PHOTOS OF THE FLAKE PAULE AKTATTER: LOCATE THE STARTE RING 1a Paule: Do you stat at the picot?... or at the beginning of the chain 3B AKTATTER: AT THE PICOT IN THE MIDDLE AKTATTER: PUT A PAPER CLIP ON THE THREAD TO MAKE A STARTER PICOT Gail: k Wally: . stitchingsharon: k Claudia: - Paule: ok AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERN? Paule: then do the 8 ds ch AKTATTER: ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? Paule: then ring 4B AKTATTER: RIGHT PAULE Paule: tec... Paule: etc AKTATTER: THEN WHEN YOU HAVE FINISHED ROUND 1 YOU WILL JOIN TO THE STARTER PICOT Katie Verna/occhitat: got it, AK. AKTATTER: THEN KEEPING CHAINING INTO ROUND 2 Gail: Now it makes sense Katie Verna/occhitat: You make it easy for us, GA. Well, at least to understand . . . . AKTATTER: OK THEN NEXT WEEK WE HAVE HALF CLOSED RINGS STUDY AND A SNOWFLAKE BY ERIN AND A GLITZY EARRING BY MARILEE ROCKLEY Gail: Thanks GA stitchingsharon: patterns that look complicated are sooo much easier broken into small parts. AKTATTER: THANKS K, G Cynthia: k erin in tenn.: Thanks, Georgia! Wally: cool!!! erin in tenn.: Ladies, I must run. . . . . . AKTATTER: THAT IS SO TRUE SHARON, AND WHEN WE LOOK AT IT STEP BY STEP IT COMES TOGETHER erin in tenn.: Goodnight, all! Hope G: wow.. what a class Paule: If I run into problems I will e-mail you AKTATTER: NIGHTERS ERIN Hope G: bye Erin Wally: oops, i wont be at class. :-( AKTATTER: LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS?? Katie Verna/occhitat: Lots of goodies, AK, and no cut and tie! stitchingsharon: Thanks so much Georgia, and cynthia, I always learn something in these classes Hope G: how cold is it?? Claudia: not right now g AKTATTER: OH BUMMER WALLY WELL DON'T FORGET THE PAPER CLI P PATTERN OF THE MONTH ON DEC 28TH TOO Katie Verna/occhitat: 40 deg in nc Gail: Thanks GA I'm so glad I've found you all AKTATTER: ALL THE SNOW FROM LAST NIGHT MELTED BY NOON NOT COLD TONIGHT Wally: thanks for the classes and if I can't see you earlier have a wonderful holiday and see you all next year Hope G: hugs Katie Needlework.Eng: thanks for the details about starting - I think it makes sense to me now Hope G: Love you Wally!!! Katie Verna/occhitat: hugs, Hopie! AKTATTER: WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE YOU WITH US GAIL AKTATTER: GREAT ENG HOPE TO SEE YOU NEXT TIME stitchingsharon: We had a dusting of snow this morning in KY Claudia: no tenemos mas clases wally por este año? AKTATTER: THE LOG WILL BE POSTED INA FEW MINUTES Wally: Me too Hopie! Hope we can meet again some day. :-) Hope G: xoxox AKTATTER: DON'T FORGET THE BEGINNERS CLASS O NTHURSDAYS AKTATTER: AND WHEN IS YOUR LAST SPANICH CLASS WALLY? stitchingsharon: Not sure if I will make it next week -- traveling tomorrow, and home Monday Wally: Pues yo creo que no. Es que tengo que ir a Cayey a visitar mas medicos Claudia: ah. ok stitchingsharon: Hope you all have a terrific Holiday Season. Hope G from x.x.x.93 left the chat 108 seconds ago Claudia: espero vaya bien tu salud AKTATTER: NIGHTERS ALL HAPPY TATTING HAPPY HOLIDAYS AKTATTER from x.x.x.218 left the chat 100 seconds ago Wally: that's what I'm telling Claudia. I have to go to Cayey and there's no net at dad's home. Still have to visit a lot of doctors Katie Verna/occhitat: nite all Wally: don't know when I can have classes again Needlework.Eng: Good Night Claudia: ok wally, cuidate tu salud Claudia: good night girls!! Wally: voy a pasar por el grupo ahora. Cynthia: Sorry, my MIL called and was hoping Doug was here...They again think my FIL won't last more than a few days... Created at Chatzy.com