The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Sun Oct 25 15:16:08 2009 GMT (338 KB) Page 1 of 7 - Char 1 to 51244 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER from x.x.x.203 cleared the room 5 days ago Winkerbill: drinking a cup of hot tea makes your feet feel warm! AKTATTER: Oct. 19, 2009 needle tatting afternoon session Winkerbill: isn't that crazy! AKTATTER: open chat for 3 more minutes Barb: Wow. I didn't know what happened..All the sudden the screen went wonkey and blank. LOL AnneB: I'll keep quiet and make some tea :-) Winkerbill: Georgia I am being a delinquent today. Tatting with my shuttles during needle class.... Winkerbill: are your feet cold, too? Mine were freezing! Winkerbill: Barb, that was Georgia clearing out the "old" stuff so she could save this class log. That way we can go back and look at it later, without all the excess "stuff" left over from who knows when. Barb: Ahh...thanks AKTATTER: oh oh is that allowed? Did you know that sometimes I tat with a needle and with 2 shuttles at the same time? Winkerbill: But she alwyas warns us just before the screen goes blank so we don't think something went wrong with our computer. Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 days ago Cynthia: Hi everyone... Barb: Hi Cynthia :) Winkerbill: hmmmm....I guess I could go get my needles and lay them on the table. Not sure I could manage 2 shuttles AND a needle yet, but I guess they could watch while I tatted with 2 shuttles. Winkerbill: <silly grin> AKTATTER: Cynthia do you have email ads for Barb Gulden> newbie? AKTATTER: ok here's how to do it AKTATTER: thread needle with core thread color that doe not show AKTATTER: thread diffrent color on each of two shuttles AKTATTER: alternate hands and WRAP the thread onto the needle as in maltese or pearl tatting Cynthia: I can check... AKTATTER: you can use each shuttle to throw off rings, scmr, picots, celtic picots etc AKTATTER: Barb are you Barb Gulden? Winkerbill: ooh, I've been playing around with pearl tatting a lot lately. Using a needle might be even faster than just wrapping....once I got the hang of alternating hands, at least. Barb: no Georgia.. I'm barb grainger AKTATTER: it's neat to have the advantage of throwing off tatted elements using the shuttle AKTATTER: ah ok BG is new tatter Winkerbill: and a whole long list of ideas just popped into my head, everything from tatting over memory wire and throwing off rings, etc, to ....well....it'll take a LONG time to play around with all the ideas that just popped into my head! Wow! AKTATTER: ok let's start pleas sign in Cynthia from x.x.x.14 sent out 1 invitation(s) 5 days ago Winkerbill: Stephanie W. in western North Carolina USA AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA AKTATTER: WHO IS HERE FOR NEEDLE TATTING? Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com Barb: Barb Grainger sonsery@aol.com Canby Oregon USA Barb: I am. But it looks like I'm the only one. LOL Winkerbill: umm....I was going to follow along with everyone but tat with the shuttles during class....should I just go sit in the corner now? Cynthia: Georgia do you have Sharon Hamlin on the list? Winkerbill: ;-) AKTATTER: THAT'S FINE BARB WHERE ARE YOU IN YOUR STUDY OF NEEDLE TATTING GOT THE RING AND CHAIN AND PICOT OK? AKTATTER: YES I DO AKTATTER: DID WE LOSE ANNE? Barb: Yes I do. I just did some of lesson 4 last night. Learned how to do split rings. AKTATTER: OH SUPER! AnneB: Just back with a cup of tea Barb: That is really fun. Barb: I do have a question though. AKTATTER: HMM SMELLS GOOD FROM HERE ANNE AnneB: Am just listening in on the needle part AKTATTER: BARB CAN YO DO THE SPLIT CHAIN ALSO? Winkerbill: I still have half a pot of hot tea if anyone wants to share.... picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 5 days ago Barb: Have not tried the split chains yet. AKTATTER: OH PAS ME A CUP!! Cynthia: No I don't have Barb Gulden in my list at all AKTATTER: OK LET;S LOOK AT THE PAGE FOR THAT Barb: I'll take one Winderbill :) AKTATTER: OK CYN THANKS Winkerbill: split chains? Barb: k Sharon from x.x.x.30 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingbasicspt2.html Winkerbill: they're way easy on the needle. :-) AKTATTER: WELCOME SHARON Winkerbill: hi Sharon AnneB: Hi Sharon! picotsnkeys: Hi all Winkerbill: hi AnneB: Hi Melanie! Barb: hi ladies picotsnkeys: oh...door...brb Cynthia: everyone remember to "key" in occasionally...the letter k works real well Winkerbill: What confuses me is I have to DO it before it "looks" right to me. I can't picture what's on the needle and see - in my head - where it will go and how it will look. AKTATTER from x.x.x.203 sent out 1 invitation(s) 5 days ago Winkerbill: took a few years with the shuttle before I could do that, so I guess it'll take a while with the needle, too. Sharon: Cybthia,thanks for the link, i am online. Has anyone ever tatted with wire? Thanks Sharon AKTATTER: DOING IT OVER AND OVER IT WA=HAT COUNTS STEPH AKTATTER: HI MEL AKTATTER: HAVE YOU SEEN THE PAGE YET BARB? Cynthia: k Barb: yes, thank you Georgia picotsnkeys: I'm back, I tried tatting with wire. It required too much concentration to tat and watch tv! Barb: I'm printing it off AKTATTER: SUER SHARON COPPER WIRE TATTING IS INTRIGUING AKTATTER: OK SINCE YOU CAN DO THE SPLIT RING BARB YOU ARE HALFWAY TO UNDERSTANDING THE SPLIT CHAIN Sharon: Exuse my messed up typing, what guage did you use , 34 is the smallest I have crcheted with? Barb: k AKTATTER: FOR THE SLPIT CHAIN YOU WOULD WRAP THE DS NORMALLY UP TO THE POINT OF THE RING/CHAIN/PICOT WHICH YOU ARE USING TO CLIMB OUT INTO THE NEXT ROW Winkerbill: k picotsnkeys: I just used a piece that was lying around just to see if I could do it. I haven't shopped for any. AKTATTER: I THINK IT WAS 36 GUAGE Rosemarie from x.x.x.20 joined the chat 5 days ago Barb: k Cynthia: k picotsnkeys: Hi Rosemarie AKTATTER: THEN YOU UNTHREAD THE NEEDLE AND WRAP DS USING THAT TAIL AS IF IT WERE A SPLIT RING AKTATTER: BUT STOP THERE AnneB: Hi Rosemarie Barb: k Rosemarie: Hi all AKTATTER: SSTICK THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE THRU THE POINT OF ATTACHMENT meowy from x.x.x.208 joined the chat 5 days ago Barb: hi AKTATTER: THE POINT OF ATTACHMENT IS WHERE THE CHAIN WOULD NORMALLY HAVE ENDED meowy: hi! AKTATTER: TEH BASE OF A RING./CHAIN OR A PICOT picotsnkeys: Hi Stacey AKTATTER: WELCOME! AnneB: Hi Stacey Barb: k AKTATTER: THEN THREAD THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE AGAIN AND PULL THROUGH AKTATTER: THA BRINGS BOTH THREAD BACK TO THE CLIMB OUT SPOT AKTATTER: EASY HUH! Barb: Yes! I'll practice today :) AnneB: Split chains are easier in needle tatting than in shuttle tatting :-) AKTATTER: THAT IS THE TRUTH! Barb: So far, everything has been easier for me in needle tatting. LOL I'm still just barely starting with the shuttles. AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER NEEDLE TATTING QUESTIONS Raelara from x.x.x.99 joined the chat 5 days ago Janet from x.x.x.110 joined the chat 5 days ago Barb: I have a quick one about the split rings. Barb: After I close the ring, do I do the knot too? or do I just start on the next ring? AKTATTER: Copper Wire Tatting w/Carolyn Regnier, Regnier, 2000, THAT IS A BOOK ON IT IN THE ioli LIBRARY AKTATTER: IF GOING TO A CHAIN TIE OFF IF GOING TOA RING/SPLIT RING JUST BEGIN TO WRAO AKTATTER: WRAP AKTATTER: WELCOME JENNI JANET Raelara: hi all Angela from x.x.x.20 joined the chat 5 days ago Janet: Thanks...I think I figured out the snowflake AKTATTER Barb: I know that Thursday's class is about split rings.. but I'm working on them now and I want to make more. I'm to impatient to wait until thursday. LOL Angela: Hello everyone. AnneB: When tatting with wire, you'd use needle I suppose? AKTATTER: HERE IS SOME MORE INFO ON COPPER WIRE TATTING http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html AKTATTER: PLASTIC SHUTTLE WITH LOOSE TIP IS BEST I THINK AKTATTER: PERSONAL PREFERENCE THO Barb: Thank you. I've tried it both ways and I liked it better without the knot. MJB from x.x.x.178 joined the chat 5 days ago Barb: but didn't know if that was the right way to do it or not. meowy: wow wire hehe AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html Sharon: Ladies do any of you have skype, where we could talk via a camera. If so email me you skpe name and I will call you so we can look and see what we are doing that would be really helpful for me since I am a beginner, thanks for the info on wire yes I would use a needle, ijust mastered that this summer, I still can't get the hand of the shuttle. AKTATTER: OH THERE IS A PHOTO MISSING i WILL GO FIX IT BRB Cynthia: the pics are broken in the link Georgia but I think we can follow anyway on the copper wire tatting Winkerbill: Sharon we have Skype but no camera.....where do you live? maria alcant from x.x.x.207 joined the chat 5 days ago maria alcant: hi! i get early...sorry Winkerbill: are you close to NC? meowy: hi maria Winkerbill: hi maria AKTATTER: OK THOSE ARE LOADING UP CHECK THE PAGE LATER FOR PHOTOS picotsnkeys: Hi Maria MJB: I am early too Sharon: Carrollton, GA Cynthia: Sharon I think you can get a hand on the shuttle...look in the beginner info...and a new class starts Nov 5 meowy: ty georgia AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIA! Winkerbill: oh rats! I used to live in GA....moved here not quite a year and a half ago. meowy: the shuttle class is good that cynthia and anne teach Rosemarie: k maria alcant: how are all? AnneB: Hi Maria, Mary Jane, Janet Angke and Rae AKTATTER: WE ARE ALL WELL AND EAGER TO TAT MJB: hello everybody Barb: I couldn't see them either. I thought it was my computer. I've had browser problems for the last couple days. meowy: oo this week i started working on an edge for a hankie, got about 1/3rd of one side done Raelara: Hi Anne AKTATTER: FOR THE NEEDLE TATTERS, IS THERE ANYONE WHO IS READY TO TAKE THE GRADUATION TEST? Raelara: that reminds me, I never turned in a picture of my needle graduation test AKTATTER: JUST CHECK LATER BARB IT TAKES A WHILE TO LOAD Barb: Yikes.. Not yet! LOL meowy: a test eek Winkerbill: umm...how far are you from Atlanta? The Atlanta chapter of IOLI meets....I think it's the last Saturday of the month....there are lots of tatters in that group..... picotsnkeys: Ok, I'm bite...what's graduation? AKTATTER: AH HA!! WE SHOULD GET THAT POSTED JENNI maria alcant: G...link are brocken..... Raelara: I will scan it in when I do my last Bocher example Barb: I've only done three lessons and just started on lesson 4 last night. :) meowy: i'm still figuring out the catherine join, but i haven't been trying very hard on it yet AKTATTER: IT IS A TWO PATTERN TEST WITHOUT PHOTOS Sharon: Winkerbill, email phone that still would be good to talk, I need all the help I can get. aktatter you must be kidding. Those that take the test good luck. Raelara: Two patterns? AKTATTER: SI MARIA THE PHOTOS ARE BEING RELOADED RIGHT NOW JUST CHECK LATER PLEASE AnneB: It's the needle tatting graduation, Melanie :-) Raelara: I only remember one, a bookmark pattern maria alcant: ok Winkerbill: not sure if I ever turned in a picture of my grduation test on the needles, either.... AKTATTER: IF YOU CAN DO IT THEN YOU KNOW ALL THE BASICS OF NEEDLE TATTING Winkerbill: it was a little doily. meowy: do we gotta do a test for shuttle class? if so, i'll start the cold sweats now hehe Cynthia: you can all do the needle tatting graduation pattern.... AKTATTER: LOL FOR SHUTTLE TATTERS EVERY PATTERN IS A TEST! meowy: hehe MJB: that's right Sharon: Winkerbill, when is iol meeting and what day and where, 50 miles from Atlanta Winkerbill: Sharon, my e-mail is trompeter914 at gmail (dot com) I can try to talk you through problems if you want.... maria alcant: jejeje AKTATTER: HEY MARY JANE WELCONME Raelara: I did the flower basket paperclip in both needle and shuttle picotsnkeys: Every pattern shows me what I still have to learn! krystledawne from x.x.x.188 joined the chat 5 days ago Barb: Cynthia, even me? with the little that I know? MJB: thank You., Cynthia: I did it with both shuttle and needle just so I could say I did it.... krystledawne: Hello all! Winkerbill: let me check - I have contact somewhere on the computer.... brb Cynthia: yes even you Barb.... Raelara: I suppose I should practice more with the needle, I still have to concentrate a whole lot Barb: Wahoo! meowy: oohh could I try the test? if I fail do I have to sit in the corner? Rosemarie: k picotsnkeys: Hi Krystle AnneB: Hi Krystle meowy: hi krystledawne MJB: I would be in the corner with you Barb: meowy.. maybe you can sneak your tatting in the corner if you do..LOL Cynthia: once you have the basics--ds and p and you've done those...now just follow the pattern... meowy: hehe mjb, i'll bring cookies then meowy: hehe barb! AnneB: making the graduation pattern is practice :-) Cynthia: No corners for anyone...these are SELF tests you don't have to share if you don't want to MJB: I love cookies Raelara: G, is there a web page with the graduation patterns on it? Cynthia: also NO FAILING as that is not an option! krystledawne: The fine fellow I'm married to has helped me with the morning housework . And he's agreed to child duty for the next hour WAHOOO~ Barb: well, shoot.. Maybe I'll try it then! That worst that could happen is that I'd not get it right and I'd sit in the corner with meowy. LOL AKTATTER: NO BUT MAYBE WE SHOULD MAKE ONE? Cynthia: (I'm a tough teacher...lol) cat2tat from x.x.x.68 joined the chat 5 days ago Winkerbill: ....sigh....for some reason I can't pull up my e-mail at the moment. Give me your e-mail address and I"ll send you the info as soon as I can pull it up. AKTATTER: OK I WILL GO CHECK THOWE WIRE PHOTOS BRB Barb: what a man krystledawne Winkerbill: well....I ahve tea here in the corner. picotsnkeys: brb Winkerbill: hi Cathy meowy: mmm tea Barb: You are a fantastic teacher Cynthia! Cynthia: brb MJB: sounds good., maybe all of us can go to the corner cat2tat: Hi everyone! krystledawne: Yep. a keeper. Cynthia: thanks but you are all fantastic students too! so it makes our teaching look better meowy: oh in that case hehe, I'll try the test :) cat2tat: Hi Steph! Winkerbill: i'll go drag a few more chairs over here.... Winkerbill: hi Cathy Winkerbill: somebody bring cookies to go with the tea AnneB: Hi Cathy krystledawne: I have chocolate popsicles Winkekrbill, will that do? MJB: that's good too meowy: i have apples, haha Barb: You and Georgia are so good at making it easy to understand. As my grand kids say.. You both Rock! :) meowy: they do rock! picotsnkeys: I've got chocolate toffee almonds curtesy of the Girl Scouts Barb: I made chochlate cupcakes this weekend.. here..have one. Raelara: Pics are good on page 1 of the wire tatting Raelara: page 2 is still out AKTATTER: ok all but one has finished on that page krystledawne: I'll take chocolate anything. AKTATTER: I FOUND WHITE CHOCOLATE COCA MIX! WAS I EVER HAPPY! cat2tat: me too! meowy: oh those are cute! Barb: what did I miss? what is cure? krystledawne: OOH yummy! Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 days ago Barb: cute Jenny: Hi everybody meowy: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html those barb Gretta from x.x.x.100 joined the chat 5 days ago krystledawne: Hello Jenny Winkerbill: ooh, I love apples! Raelara: G, did you get the red and yellow Bocher pic I sent? I got your verification on the other pics, but I sent that one separately. meowy: hi jenny, gretta Gretta: hello everyone AnneB: Hi Jenny and GRetta MJB: Hi Jenny Gretta AKTATTER: I AM NOT CERTAIN JENNI, I LOST A LOT OF EMAIL WITH ATTACHMENTS TO THEM WHEN MY AOL WENT OUT ABOUT 5 WEEKS AGO Winkerbill: Ok, Sharon, the info I was looking for has FINALLY come up on the screen. Good news and bad news. The bad news is that the October meeting is ....a field trip to Athens, so there's no meeting in October (the 31st). AND because of Thanksgiving, there's normally no meeting in November....and the December one is a Christmas get-together.... Raelara: I will send it again. I sent it the same day, but it might have gotten lost in transit AKTATTER: IT MAY STILL BE IN THE CACHE BUT I CAN'T GET AT IT UNTIL I GET A NWE AOL Janet: Where is the needle tatters graduation test? Winkerbill: The GOOD news is I have a contact person for you: Barbara - and her address is AtlPiaf at aol (dot com). AKTATTER: OPEN CHAT CONTINUES 5 MORE MINUTES Barb: blasted browser! I'll have to check back later. Browser isn't working right grrr. Winkerbill: I am guessing their next meeting is end of January, but you may live close enough to get together with another tatter at least "sort of" nearby.... krystledawne: Hey Georgia...I've seen your shuttles in some online shops. Do you still make/sell them? Cynthia: it might be...getting the pictures can be a challenge... AKTATTER: OK ONE MORE PHOTO TO GO ON THE SECOND PAGE Raelara: so, when you wire tat the ornaments on page 1, would it be easier to do them split ring style? Sharon: Those that want to email me can at two different sites: hamlinscw@yahoo.com, or sharonhamlin@gmail.com, I'll read the rest of the log later, got to get hubby to Dr.s office and I will let you know how thw wire turns out, going to try the fan and the medallion that you like Cynthia I have a friend that does beading and wire alos I am going to invite her to jump in if thats okay. Her name is Kim.Nice chatting with you ladies. Sharon. Raelara: that way you wouldn't have to manipulate the flip MJB: Georgia., they look like cookie cutters AKTATTER: I SURE DO INFACT JUST FINISHED A GOLD COLORED BACK GROUND WITH WHITE SNOWFLAKES ON IT YESTERDAY AKTATTER: JANET I HAVE THE TEST WHENEVER YOU ARE READY FOR IT krystledawne: where do you sell them? AKTATTER: YES DORCAS USED COOKIE CUTTERS TO GET HER OUTLINES Rosemarie: Question about the candy cane. When I finished - made one in size 8 perle cootton and one in size 10 crochet cotton - neither of them holds the candy cane shape. Do I need to starch them? AKTATTER: DIRECT THRU EMAIL MOSTLY JUST WRITE TO ME MJB: I didnt know that Janet: I don't know, but I will give the needle test a try. It may tell me where I need to bone up. AnneB: Don't forget the link to the graduation patterns Georgia :-) AKTATTER: PROBABLY SO ROSE meowy: i think i have some thin wire krystledawne: Ok. I'd love to see pics Cynthia: Sharon have her sign up....lots easier than slipping in Rosemarie: Thanks AKTATTER: NO LINK TO THE TEST, I JUST SEND IT UPON REQUEST meowy: ohh ty georgia Janet: jpkhud@gmail.com for needle test...thanks Cynthia: Send it to me please Georgia s I managed to delete it...lol brasthatfit@yahoo.com maria alcant: OK...famalcan@prodigy.net.mx...please G Winkerbill: pearl cotton is kind of soft, you might have to starch your candy canes to make them keep their shape Raelara: send me the test too, so I can make sure I did all of it. raelara@gmail.com Cynthia: I can forward it to others too..once I get it meowy: me too please! staceywrites @ gmail.com Rosemarie: Thanks Winkerbill Cynthia: a heavy starch with pearl cotton...I've found it needs a lot of stiffening! Barb: Since Cynthia says I am ready for it.. go ahead and send it to me too sonsery@aol.com Rosemarie: I can't believe that I'm asking for a test, but I'd like one, too. Barb: Do you have a startch that you recommend ??? Cynthia: (We do open helps tests too) but I bet you can all do it...without any helps Rosemarie: Thanks Cynthia Barb: Is that like an 'open book' test? maria alcant: of course Cynthia Raelara: You can actually mix corn starch and water and customize the strength. That is what most starches are anyway AKTATTER: ok test has been emailed Winkerbill: hehehehe....I ended up having to add thread when I did the test.....not just "add" thread, but I completely ran out of that color and had to finish the last little bit with a different color....looks weird, but it proved I could add thread iwthout the ends showing. ;-) AKTATTER: YOU BET IT IS! JUST TAKE YOUR TIME AND OWRK THROUGH IT. Winkerbill: brb - I think I found a starch recipe online somehwere.... Angela: Winkerbill did a duoble test and didn't even plan it. Cynthia: I use Sta- Flow and use it full stength on pearl cottong 1:1 or everything else picotsnkeys: k meowy: oh i have cornsarch Janet: I have some Stiffy that I bought for something else...dilute it down to 2 parts stiffy to one part water. No dilution makes it too stiff. Raelara: Sta-Flo is good meowy: is sta flow sold in grocery stores? AKTATTER: OK LETS GET STARTED PLEASE SIGN ING meowy: stacey usa staceywrites @ gmail . com Janet: janet jpkhud@gmail.com Angela: Angela Miracle aanjel51@yahoo.com, Lupton, MI USA AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA krystledawne: krystledawne@gmail.com Krystle pyette WA USA Cynthia: I can't spell or maybe it is typos...but at least you know what it is Gretta: I'm not part of the needle tatting class but would like to take your test to see if there are things I need to brush up on you can send it to grettawilhite@gmail.com Winkerbill: Stephanie W. in western North Carolina USA Raelara: Jenni Sherriff raelara@gmail.com San Lorenzo, CA, USA Janet: pueblo, colorado if anyone in area I'd like to know picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi picotsnkeys @ Yahoo dot com Los Gatos, CA Barb: Barb Grainger sonsery@aol.com Canby Oregon USA AKTATTER: OCT. 19, 2009 REG CLASS AFTERNOON SESSION MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus., Indiana usa Jenny: Jenny Griffin Northampton England Gretta: Gretta Wilhite, Crane Hill, Alabama Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA Rosemarie: Rosemarie, Baltimore, MD, USA, rweb53@verizon.net AKTATTER: OK LESSON FOR TODAY IS PART OF THE NATIONAL OBSERVANCE OF BBREAT CANCER AWARENESS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/lilymoralespinkanchor1.jpg AKTATTER: AND http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/lilymoralespinkanchor2.jpg maria alcant: Maria Alcantara. famalcan@prodigy.net.mx ::MEXICO AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway (sorry was in the middle of a SR) krystledawne: Very cute. I'll make one for my grandmother....she was treated last year and is doing well AKTATTER: THIS LESSON IS SHARED WITH THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS BY LILY MORALES, AKA LOOPYLACER Winkerbill: still looking for the starch instructions....brb...again.... AKTATTER from x.x.x.203 sent out 1 invitation(s) 5 days ago AKTATTER: ONE NOTE ABOUT TENSION meowy: i'm going to make one for my friend MJB: Is Lily coming ? AKTATTER: THE CHAIN DS MAUC BE VERY TIGHT TO FORCE MORE CURVE INTO THEM Raelara: Is the anchor a breast cancer symbol then? AKTATTER: I HOPE SO Raelara: or would this work for other cancers as well? AKTATTER: ANCHOR IS THE SYMBOL FOR HOPE MJB: good., I haven't talked to her since convention in California AKTATTER: SO THE PINK ANCHOR IS FOR BREAST CANCER ;) Winkerbill: http://www.hodgsonmill.com/tips-tricks-terms/index.php?page=corn-starch-tricks Raelara: that's good Raelara: then I can do it in a pearl thread AKTATTER: ALSO NOTE THIS ABBREVIATION = Winkerbill: there's a lot of cornstarch tips on there, it's probably 3 'screens' down, at lesat.... Winkerbill: TO STARCH DOILIES: Heat 2 cups of water to boiling. Mix 1/2 cup Pure Corn Starch with 1 cup cold water. Have another cup of water available. After the 2 cups of water comes to a boil, add the Corn Starch mixture slowly, stirring constantly. If the mixture becomes too thick, which can happen quickly, add some of the extra water. After the mixture cools, saturate the items to be starched, gently squeeze or roll out excess, shape and let dry. Winkerbill: (That was the "recipe" itself) AKTATTER: IN LILY'S ANCHOR THE = SIGN MEANS TO MAKE A VERY TINY PICOT, JUST A MERE BUMP BIG ENOUGH TO MAKE A JOIN AKTATTER: AND LILY'S MARKS FOR PICOTS SHOW TWO STYLES AKTATTER: A SHORT LIN - MEANS TO MAKE A PICOT 1/4" LONG WHEN OPNE AKTATTER: AND A LONGER LINE --- MEANS TO MAKE A PICOT 1/4" WHEN CLOSED picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: OK THIS IS A TEST maria alcant: and that what it means? krystledawne: of the emergency broadcast system? MJB: get the cookies., for the corner Barb: k Raelara: I LOVE it when people clarify like that. Makes it a ton easier to figure out how big picots should be AKTATTER: WHO CAN TELL ME WHERE WE START THE PATTERN? krystledawne: Ring A maria alcant: A meowy: on line one? Jenny: I'm guessing at A krystledawne: Lol Winkerbill: ummm....by finding an empty shuttle and filling it with pink thread? krystledawne: Rofl Raelara: Yeah, I would say on the ring marked A Winkerbill: ok, ok, i'm goign back in the corner with my pot of tea AKTATTER: LOL OK THAT GOT YOUR ATTENTION Angela: I think with the capital A picotsnkeys: A Cynthia: best answer Wink krystledawne: or by turning on the printer meowy: hehe AKTATTER: THE POINT IN READ THE PATTERN AND THE ABBREVIATIONS BEFORE YOU START TATTING krystledawne: Lol yes picotsnkeys: or making a cup of tea...lol AnneB: I side with Winkerbil :-) Winkerbill: are you feet warmer now Anne? AnneB: Yes :-) Winkerbill: I got warm enough to actually take off one of my sweaters. ;-) picotsnkeys: ah yes, study the pattern snuggled under a throw! Lol AKTATTER: NOW THAT YOU HAAVE LOOKED AT RING A READ THE DIRECTIONS FOR RING A AND LOOK AGAIN krystledawne: small picots for joining> Raelara: That's interesting AKTATTER: DOES ANYONE NOTE ANYTHING ODD? maria alcant: 9 picots krystledawne: And watch out for those 3's Raelara: You do the ring AND surrounding chains before continuing maria alcant: 2 and 3 ds Rosemarie: Well, my insturctions are too small and too fuzzy to read - need help picotsnkeys: lots of places to make a mistake...lol...better get a good crochet hook ready! Raelara: click on the picture Rosemarie Raelara: it enlarges Jenny: This is going to need some concentration krystledawne: do you leave a mock picot? meowy: click the page Rosemary, it made the image bigger on my browser MJB: you go around the ring Cynthia: click on the page before you print and it enlarges to page size Raelara: there is a mock picot on it too, before you start the surrounding chain maria alcant: ..... Winkerbill: not sure what would be odd, exactly....but I can see the path it takes.... picotsnkeys: I do like the effect of the two lines of tatting (1 the ring, 1 the chain) krystledawne: ........ krystledawne: (where is G going with this lol) Rosemarie: Got it - thanks Raelara: I think she is listening and laughing at us krystledawne: watching us squirm AKTATTER: IN RING A THERE ARE 9 PICOTS SEPARATED WITH 2 DS AKTATTER: THE RING BEGINS AND ENDS WITH 2 DS krystledawne: some are 3 ds MJB: seeing if we are awake maria alcant: she trying to focus us Jenny: Got it Ring a Starts at the top and the chain goes half way round before doing B maria alcant: and what about those 3 ds? in the middle AKTATTER: RING A IS FOLLOWED BY CHAIN A Cynthia: but we are all out of focus...lol Raelara: those must be the ones that connect ring A with the main stem of the anchor AKTATTER: CHAIN A HAS 4 SHUTTLE LOCK JOINS maria alcant: yes! meowy: oh fun, we learned that in class on thursday hehe AKTATTER: SO WHERE DOES THE CHAIN BEGIN ON RING A? Cynthia: aren't you glad you come to boty classes ....learn and use.... AKTATTER: WHERE DO WE EXIT TO RING B? Raelara: right at the top maria alcant: on top Jenny: At the top Raelara: then ring b comes in instead of joining to the 3p3 section maria alcant: we surrund only half of ring A picotsnkeys: no, on the side. The ring starts at the top AKTATTER: AH HA MARIA GOT IT! Cynthia: right side? AnneB: 2/3 from the start AKTATTER: WE ARE ONLY GOING AROUND HALF OF RING A Raelara: left side maria alcant: yeeessss!!! ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Sun Oct 25 15:17:09 2009 GMT (338 KB) Page 2 of 7 - Char 51245 to 102416 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ Barb: k AKTATTER: THE OTHER SIDE OF RING IS NOT USED UNTIL CHAIN Q Raelara: the second half of ring A must be covered right at the end Cynthia: finishes at the end then...sneaky but good picotsnkeys: question: do we reverse work after Ring A before Chain a? Winkerbill: hmm...that's planning ahead....if you finish at the top, you can leave the tails long and make a loop for hanging it...not have to hide the ends. :-) AKTATTER: SEE NOW IF YOU STARTED WITHOUT READING THE PATTERN YOU MIGHT GET LOST Raelara: My 2 year old is distracting me, doing squats to my daughter's practice cd AKTATTER: WE ASSUME THERE IS A RW AFTER EACH RING AND CHAIN UNLESS SPECIFIED OTHERWISE IN THE PATTERN picotsnkeys: lol Jenni Cynthia: I get lost occasionally even when I read the pattern... picotsnkeys: me too...lol meowy: i get lost on almost every pattern i do still haha AKTATTER: SO AFTER GETTING THRU RINGS TO H YOU GOT DOWN ONE SIDE OF THE ANCHOR OVER TO THE POITN ACROSS THE BOTTOM THEN UP TO THE POINT cat2tat: me too meowy!! picotsnkeys: I'm adding an arrow at the start point on my print out...think that will help? Raelara: I do better if I try and follow the diagram first, then study the pattern AKTATTER: BACK UP THE CENTER , DO THE RIGHT ARM AND END AT A Barb: k AKTATTER: YES IT WILL! maria alcant: ok. AKTATTER: NOW FOR THE CHAINS AKTATTER: AFTER YOU TAT THE CHAINS COMPRESS THE DS BACK TO WHERE THE CHAIN STARTED TO ENHANCE THE CURVE OF THE CHAIN Raelara: I may try and make a pdf of this AKTATTER: YOU WANT THE CHAINS TIGHT Jenny: I think this one is better if you read the pattern and then study the diagram AKTATTER: YOU ARE RIGHT JENNY Winkerbill: brb - getting more tea AKTATTER: OK THERE IS NO REAL TRIVK TO IT AFTER YOU GET GOING BUT YOU NEED TO TRY IT TO REALLY UNDERSTAND IT Raelara: either way, Jenny, I have to do both before I start. My point was that the instructions don't click for me till I review the diagram itself AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO LILY FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US Raelara: definitely AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS O NT HTE ANCHOR meowy: thank you lily! picotsnkeys: thank you Lily! Raelara: this would make a good gift for my aunt and cousin Jenny: Thanks Lily krystledawne: Thank you Lily! cat2tat: Thanks Lily! MJB: neat pattern AnneB: Not yet - but maybe if I start tatting it LOL AKTATTER: FOR ANYONE WHO GOT ONE OF THE FUNDRAISER BLOCKS WITH THE SOLID BLACK PIECE , THIS WOULD BE A GOOD PATTERN FOR APPLIQUE AKTATTER: OK NEXT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/nancytracypumpkin.html krystledawne: Next is pumpkins! Rosemarie: This is a very nice alternative to an awaremess ribbon - thanks Lily! AKTATTER: THIS SLEEP PUMPKIN IS SHARED WITH US BY NANCY TRACY OF BE-STITCHED.COM Barb: k krystledawne: I love the celtic one krystledawne: maybe some earrings meowy: thank you nancy! AKTATTER: CLICK ON THE DIAGRAMS TO GET ENLARGEMENTS Winkerbill: i'm baaaack AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN IS FROM, NANCY;'S BOOKMARK BOOK, "TAT;S WHERE I STOPPED" AKTATTER: WB SW MJB: I like Marys pumpkin too AKTATTER: THE SMILE AND EYELASHES ARE ADDED AFTERWARD, GLUE OR SEW DOWN Angela: wish I had some orange thread cat2tat: I did the whole bookmark with my seniors needle class. They loved it! Barb: couldn't get the anchor page to come up..but the pumpkin one did. How cute! If you did it red it could even be a tomato. :) Raelara: You could do a more traditional face too, with BDS Winkerbill: need to buy some orange thread.....definitely want to try some of these little pumpkins...plus the celtic one and any others I can find time for.... Raelara: make triangle eyes and nose AKTATTER: THERES A TYPO IN THE NUMBERED DIAGRAM LINK http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/nancytracydiagram.jpg Raelara: celtic one, winker??? meowy: hehe i will try it in red like barb suggested, don't have any orange I don't think AKTATTER: WOW THAT IS TERRIFIC CAT maria alcant: she goes A and then B..... Winkerbill: Ruths' pumpkin - link is further down the pumpkin page. Cynthia: Barb I can send it to you as a pdf AKTATTER: OK WHERE DOES THE PUMPKIN START? Barb: oh that would be great Cynthia. krystledawne: Let me check my GpS.. Raelara: the center strip AKTATTER: YEP YOU GOT IT RIGHT MARIA Winkerbill: bottom, middle AKTATTER: IN THE CENTER AT THE BOTTOM AT RING A Barb: next time I'll try to come to chatzy on foxfire browser instead of this one. maria alcant: the last is better...thanks Raelara: firefox works great for this Raelara: I have two copies open, one for chatzy, the other for the patterns Raelara: side by side Barb: yea I'm on IE now and it isn't working good today for me. AKTATTER: AND WHAT DO WE DO WHEN WE TAT ALL THR RINGS AND CHAINS ON ONE SIDE AND THEN COME DOWN THE OTHER SIDE BACK TO RING A WHAT HAPPENS NEXT? Raelara: I only use IE when I absolutely have to AKTATTER: THAT IS WHAT I DO ALSO JEN MAKE IT EASY TO SWTIH BACK AND FORTH krystledawne: a split chain perhaps? Raelara: split chain to bridge to row 2 Winkerbill: i would do a split chain Winkerbill: and a split ring.... Winkerbill: and keep going. AnneB: A split chain - unles you cut an tie ;-) Cynthia: work up the other side? MJB: cut and tie maria alcant: yes winkerbill...... AKTATTER: AH HA, WELL NANCY REVERTED TO OLD TIMES AND DID A CUT AND TIE AND RESTARTED AT RING B UPPER LEFT! AKTATTER: BUT DO WE WANT TO CUT AND TIE? Raelara: I noticed that MJB: Yes., I don't like split chain Raelara: but I don't think a cut and tie is necessary AnneB: Sometimes Cynthia: nooooooooooooooooooooooooo AKTATTER: NO NEVER NYET NICHT NON ! krystledawne: wouldn't that work better if we started the other way at the last ring of the center, there you have a ring you can split, and you can end on the stem/chain meowy: weaving in ends stinks AnneB: When I don't want to fight split chains AKTATTER: SO WHAT TO DO maria alcant: split chain can help Winkerbill: i can see the logic of that - do a split ring at the end, then you have the chain for the stem and don't have to figure out how to add it... Barb: no..don't want to cut and tie blech! AKTATTER: KYRSTLE GREAT IDEA Raelara: Although it looks like she took advantage of the cut and tie to make the stem AKTATTER: RIGHT! Jenny: A cut and tie is fine if you are going to stich the pumpkin to a background Winkerbill: or glue it to something. Cynthia: or a sssr for the last ring.... krystledawne: Yay I got it lol! Winkerbill: otherwise I'd do teh splits and figure out how to get the stem later. Raelara: You could do a beaded picot for the stem AKTATTER: SO CHANGE RING A TO THE TOP RING OF THE INNER FOUR RINGS Raelara: then it could be green and you could still avoid the cut and tie Raelara: ah krystledawne: It would almost reverse the center huh. Raelara: good idea G, I didn't think of that AKTATTER: WHEN YOU GET BACK TO RING A DO THE CHAIN UP TO THE LAST PICOT picotsnkeys: hmmm. I'm thinking needle might be less confusing? Cynthia: hmmmmmmmmm how many ways can we rearrange this one.... AKTATTER: SPLIT CHAIN FROM BOTTOM OF RING A BACK TO WHERE YOU STOPPED AKTATTER: NOW MAKE RING B THE MATCHING RING ON THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AKTATTER: TAT DOWN THE RIGHT HAND SIDE AND BACK UP THE LEFT TO THE VERY TOP Cynthia: how about top ring with stem make a floating ring and a chain off it for the stem? I think I can maria alcant: does the 4ds ring on the top aren“t joint in the middle? AKTATTER: THE ORIGINAL RING B NOW BECOMES A SPLIT RING AKTATTER: DO THE TINY RING AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STEM AS SPLIT RING 3 / 3 3 3 CL EXIT TO CHAIN STEM Cynthia: I think they are Maria just not in the diagram--it is too small to show that well AKTATTER: IT DOES NOT SHOW A JOIN MARIA AKTATTER: BUT I AM SURE IT IS OPTIONAL Raelara: I don't see a join in the actual tatted example, the picots are floating maria alcant: thanks bouth AKTATTER: ORIT MAY BE THAT JOINING THEM WILL THRWO THE CURVE OF THE PUMPKING OFF TOO Winkerbill: wonder how small it would be if you used size 80 thread.....might be fun to make earrings, but I don't like big earrings Cynthia: In the picture it doesn't show them as joined actually.... AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PUMPKIN? Cynthia: not the diagram the picture--look close... Winkerbill: i'm ok with it. can't wait to find some orange thread AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BONUS PUMPKIN PATTERNS? Raelara: don't think so MJB: no questions Raelara: I need to make a trip to Berkeley, get some more thread for these meowy: not yet :) AKTATTER: THE CELTIC PUMPKIN BY RUTH IS REALLY CUTE Winkerbill: the celtic one....i read over it last night. you weave everything 'leaves first'? Raelara: celtic pumpkin? Winkerbill: I thought it was really cute, too. Raelara: I don't remember seeing a link for that one AKTATTER: http://tatting.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/pumpkin1.pdf cat2tat: How do you do an overhand knot? Jenny: Tension might be a problem with the celtic one AKTATTER: IT IS JUST REALLY A LONG CHAIN Raelara: wow Raelara: way cool meowy: oh that's cute, it looks liek the top of a pie AKTATTER: AND YOU NEED VERY TIGHT TENSION Raelara: this is the type of pattern where a true celtic shuttle comes in handy AKTATTER: AND YOU WEAVE IT TOGETHER AS IN KNOTTING AND RUTH GIVES THE DIRECTIONS FOR THAT TOO AKTATTER: IT JUST MIGHT INDEED JEN MJB: I made that one is class with Ruth MJB: really cute Cynthia: yes Wink but I think if you put a tiny paperclip you could do the keaves last as they hook to the chain anyway... Winkerbill: i figure i'll have to try it using clothesline first....to get the hang of it Barb: that is darling! AKTATTER: NOTHEIDI SUNDAY'S PUIMPKINSON A VINE IS ONE I HAVE ALWAYS LIKED A LOT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/pumpkin.html Winkerbill: i like the edging, too. If you did the SLT you could make green leaves between the big orange pumpkins. Rosemarie from x.x.x.20 joined the chat 5 days ago Raelara: Yeah, that would be cool Cynthia: interesting idea Wink! AKTATTER: BUT LOOK CAREFULLY AT THE TOPS OF THE PUMPKINS Raelara: it would look better than the little orange rings. But the pattern is pretty cool as is, too. AKTATTER: SEE WHERE THE CHAINS JOIN AT THE TOPS? Barb: really cute. I love viney things! AKTATTER: THERE IS A SPOT OF GREEN THREAD SHOWING Winkerbill: yes AKTATTER: THAT SPOT SHOWING WHERE IT REALLYISNOT WANTED CAN BE AVOIDED Cynthia: where you change directions you need an slt? AKTATTER: INSTEAD OF DOING CHAINS UP AND AROUND THE RING Cynthia: how... Raelara: looks like she reverses the work instead AKTATTER: USE THE ONION RING METHOD AKTATTER: USE TEH ORANGE THREAD WHICH MADE THE INNER RING AKTATTER: AND CONTINUE TO MAKE RINGS AnneB: I'd need to do an onion ring one day Cynthia: ooooooooohhhhhhhhhh I hadn't thought of that.... Raelara: ah AKTATTER: WHICH USE THE RING/THREAD FOR THE JOIN NOT THE SHUTTLE THREAD LOCK JOIN Winkerbill: hmmm....on a real pumpkin you sometimes see a dark dot at the bottom.... hehehehehe..... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/onion/onion.html maria alcant: what of having a picot? G MJB: I made that one too., really pretty Barb: when I first lookeda at it I thouht it was onion rings. I've read about them, but not done one yet. AKTATTER: TRHE SMALLER THE PICOT ON THE RING THE BETTER THE JOIN LOOKS ,MARIA AnneB: Thanks G Raelara: I still need to try onion rings too AKTATTER: NOW MARY MAYNARD'S PUMPKIN IS REALLY GOOD FOR BEGINNERS NEEDLE AND SHUTTLE TATTERS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/pumpkin1.jpg Winkerbill: i've tried them but i'm not good at them yet. Got to work on the tension, I guess. Cynthia: we all have that issue I think Wink maria alcant from x.x.x.207 joined the chat 5 days ago picotsnkeys: brb maria alcant: sorry....i was out....but i was telling this is beautifull!!!! AKTATTER: GLAD YOU LIKE IT MARIA AKTATTER: OK NOW FOR A BONUS PATTERN krystledawne: bonus? AKTATTER: NANCY FROM BE-STITCHED ALSO HAS A NEWSLETTER WITH A FREE PATTERN EVERY MONTH MJB: yeah Raelara: yay krystledawne: oooh. yeah AKTATTER: JUST GO TO BE-STITCHED.COM AND SIGN UP FOR IT Barb: wahoo!! krystledawne: I got that AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/files/0910medallion.pdf Cynthia: I keep telling people that...lol meowy: oh yah I got that in the newsletter, it's real pretty Raelara: I was looking at that this morning MJB: I love her patterns picotsnkeys: I've tried a couple of times to sign up, maybe it's the screen name her site doesn't like? AKTATTER: WITH THE NEW LIZBETH THREADS IN MULTI COLORS AVAILABLE, THIS LITTLE MEDALLIONI WILL LOOK DIFFERENT EACH TIME YOU MAKE IT Cynthia: I can see the center in red or pink and the outside in green.... Rosemarie: Bye all picotsnkeys: bye Rosemarie meowy: what do you do with someting like that when it's done though? AKTATTER: BYE ROSE Jenny: yes I 've already started it is such a pretty pattern MJB: bye Rosemarie meowy: bye rosemarie Raelara: the center part of it, I was thinking, would make a wonderful star if the chiains were done in balanced ds AnneB: Bye Rosemarie krystledawne: Ok tiem for me to go. AKTATTER: THIS WOULD MAKE NICE COASTERS UNDER GLASS Raelara: good for the tatted scene I want to make for my Mom AKTATTER: IT WOULD DECORATE THE TOP OF A PIN CUSHION OR A PIN WHEEL NICELY meowy: ohh good idea, I think i have coaster blanks too krystledawne: or a christmaas ball lol AKTATTER: MANY OF THEM JOINED TOGETHER WOULD GET YOUA DOILY OR RUNNER OR TABLE CLOTH krystledawne: bye all meowy: bye krystledawne! AKTATTER: SEFERAL INA ROW IN SMALL THREAD WOULD FIR OVER A BLOUSE PLACKET COVERING THE BUTTONS Raelara: oooh AKTATTER: YES THOSE LONG CHAINS WOULD IMPROVE I THINK JEN DO TRY IT AND TELL US HOW IT WORKS OUT PLEASE meowy: oh good ideas, printing the pattern out now hehe AnneB: Bye Krystle AKTATTER: BYE KRYSTEL AKTATTER: AND IF GATHERERED INA POUF IT WOULD MAKE A FLOWER ALSO AKTATTER: AND IF YOU ARE CREATIVE THERE IS ALWAYS THE "PASTY" :) Raelara: pasty??? Cynthia: LOL maria alcant: she starts a new chain from a picot...... cat2tat: what is that? Cynthia: (nipple covers for naughty dancing) AKTATTER: LOL OH DEAR JEN CAT YOU MUST BE AEFULLY YOUNG... meowy: ohh i was thinking the food from the Cat Who series haha AKTATTER: RIGHT MARIA AND WE DON'T LIKE THAT BECAUSE SHE DID 2 CUT AND TIES IN THIS ONE maria alcant: from the middle picot of the firs round rings.. cat2tat: lol - wasn't thinking! Cynthia: you never know the ages of this group.... Cynthia: NO Blushing allowed...lol Raelara: I know I am a lot younger than most here picotsnkeys: lol...I was thinking Cat Who also....lol meowy: hehe AKTATTER: SO DO THE 5 INNER RINGS AND THE 5 CHAINS AKTATTER: UP TO THE THIRD PICOT JOIN ON THE LAST CHAIN picotsnkeys: I'm old enough to know, but still blush... AKTATTER: DOA 9DS SPLIT CHAIN maria alcant: a split chain can be the opption Winkerbill: me too, Melanie Raelara: hmmm, hints don't help me a whole lot. Still want to know ... AKTATTER: EXIT INTO THE CENTER RING OF THE TREFOIL Cynthia: probably most of us... AKTATTER: IT IS AN OFF CENTER SPLIT RING cat2tat: me too AKTATTER: THEN THROW OFF THE TWO SIDE RINGS AND BEGIN THE ALTERNATING RING AND CHAIN PATTERNS AROUND picotsnkeys: reminds me of the poppy I did for the Convention maria alcant: first a slit chain from the 1rst to the second...and then a slit chain to go to the 3rd AKTATTER: RIGTHT AGAIN MARIA AKTATTER: IN ANY CASE READ THE PATTERNS FIRST AND THEN TAT Winkerbill: my poppies wanted to ruffle instead of lying flat. AKTATTER: AVOID CUT AND TIE BY USING SPIT RING AND SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: DON'T BE AFRAID TO START THE PATTERN IN A DIFFERENT PLACE maria alcant: and a split chain to start the 3rd row.... AKTATTER: RUFFLING WAS GOOD FOR THE POPPIES :) picotsnkeys: mine too, but I kinda liked the ruffle. Looked more like a poppy AKTATTER: OK ANY LAST WUESTIONS? AnneB: No "just start tatting" then? AKTATTER: THERE YOU GO!~ Winkerbill: ok, just start tatting. :-) meowy: nope all good for now ty :) Barb: Offset split ring? Where one side is bigger than the other or??? Raelara: essentially Barb Barb: I hadn't heard that term before Raelara: Another thing I had to use to modernize those Bocher patterns maria alcant: thank you G now to charge shouttles and begin tatt time.... Barb: thanks R AKTATTER: RIGHT BARB SPLIT RING DOES NOT HAVE TO BE HALF AND HLAF picotsnkeys: Do you think it would help to begin getting Nancy's newsletter if someone "introduced" me that knows Nancy better? Raelara from x.x.x.99 joined the chat 5 days ago Cynthia: Raelara email me after and I think I can explain further the reference to pastys... Raelara: How close are we to finishing the Bocher pages, G?? AKTATTER: TO TURJ A CORNE R WITH A SPLIT RING YOU TAT 1/4 OF THE RING SWITCH SHUTTLE AND WRAP 3/4 OF THE RING MAKES A 90DEGREE TURN AKTATTER: LOTS AND LOTS TO GO YET JEN meowy: i think she just changed maillist software, maybe try again? Jenny: In England a pasty is a sort of meat pie lol Raelara: that is why I am confused Jenny Cynthia: nipple cover for stip dancers... Cynthia: does that make more sense? maria alcant: jajaja Raelara: is the deadline still this year? If I can wait till Christmas gifts are done then I can take a few more pages. AKTATTER: WELL IT ALSOO USED TO BE A BRA STUFFER FOR THOSE LESS ENDOWED DEBUTANTS Raelara: ah AKTATTER: YES IT IS THIS YEAR STILL Barb: Cool.. how would you do that with a needle? Raelara: think it will all get done? AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TODAY Cynthia: and now they make them to cover the nipple so it doesn't show thru with sheer blouses and thin bras... meowy: thanks for the class :) see you all soon! picotsnkeys: I found the poppy easier with a needle. The joins were just sticking the needle through picotsnkeys: Thanks for the class Georgia AKTATTER: SAME WAY BARB WRAP 1/4 NORMAL THEN UNTHREAD THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE AND WRAP 3/4 WITH THE TAIL RETHREAD AND CLOSE SPLIT RING Winkerbill: I may end up mailing mine if I can't scan them somehow MJB: thanks Georgia maria alcant: have a nice week ::::all ladies!!!! Cynthia: that can work melanie Gretta: thanks AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO LILY AND NANCY FOR SHARING THEIR WORK WITH US Cynthia: Bye and Peace Maria and Meowy AKTATTER: BEGINNERS CLASS ON THURS AKTATTER: THIS LESSON REPEATS TONIGHT AT 8:30pm ET (NEW YORK TIME) Jenny: Thanks Georgia, must go now Cynthia: and Ruth too...her celtic knot pumpkin AnneB: Thanks Lily, NAncy an d Georgia! AKTATTER: BYE NOW AND HAPY TATTING ALL Cynthia: bye and peace Jenny Barb: Ahhh.. Thanks Georgia! AKTATTER from x.x.x.203 left the chat 5 days ago cat2tat: Thanks Lily, Nancy & Georgia! Cynthia: needle class at 8 right Georgia AnneB: Bye Georgia and Jenny! Jenny from x.x.x.14 left the chat 5 days ago Raelara: she's gone Barb: Thank you for the class. It was great! Winkerbill: guess I'd better get going, too. Bye everyone. cat2tat: Bye everyone! picotsnkeys: bye everyone! Winkerbill from x.x.x.14 left the chat 5 days ago picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 left the chat 5 days ago Raelara: I am still curious about the Bocher book, about how it is going to get done if there are still so many pages to redo Cynthia: this will all be on the log as Georgia won't clear it before the evening class Cynthia: email Georgia and ask...she either didn't see the question or it didn't register with her Raelara: I'll do that Cynthia: I have to re mine. I send them just when her system crashed....and now I can't find them...lol Raelara: maybe I will use her gmail address since her aol address is still causing issues Cynthia: we did a major clean and resuffle right then.... Raelara: yikes Raelara: well, I have mine in a few places Barb: aol is acting up lately. I have it and it's really bad lately. Cynthia: I love getting the old patterns modernised. Raelara: cause I have to switch computers to do the photo retouching Raelara: my userpic on facebook is one of my Bocher redos AnneB: That reminds me I did not get to sending the last I did... Cynthia: I can't get IE to ever work and hubby won't take it off he likes it...I don't understand why... Barb: I love it too Cynthia. It's awesome to see it happening. Especially since some of those old book are so hard to read and understand on line. Raelara: not sure you CAN take it off Raelara: I wouldn't advise it Raelara: just don't use it Cynthia: IE and yahoo don't work and play well together.... Barb: No they don't Cynthia: I just don't use it...it sits on my desktop andgets ignored AnneB: LOL Barb: also I am running windows 2000 and IE's new browser doesn't include win 2000. It's obsolete and when I wrote to them for help they said..too bad Barb: can't do anything to help you.. Barb: So I have to see if I can run aol on foxfire. Raelara: yeah, microsoft is lousy that way Barb: I have never tried it. Does anyone know if you can choose forfire for aol instead of IE? Raelara: I dunno Raelara: worth a try Barb: Or is aol strictly IE? Barb: I might contact their live help and ask them. I don't want to mess up my aol.. I have a lot of important emails here that I wouldn't want to lose. Cynthia: yes...I've used it but I had too much trouble with it...I closed the aol account Barb: What browser do you all use? Raelara: http://www.askdavetaylor.com/can_i_use_firefox_with_aol.html Raelara: looks like you can choose any browser you want Cynthia: It may have been the IE not Aol that was the problem Raelara: http://toolbar.aol.com/ Barb: I'm thinking of closing it too. I've been with aol for over 10 years now. and it just keeps getitng worse and worse. Every time they 'improve' it thye make it worse. Raelara: here is a downloadable toolbar that helps Raelara: We have AT&T and love it Barb: thank you! I'll go check it out. Raelara: we use gmail for email Raelara: it's the best email client out there anyway Barb: yes, my daugher uses gmail and I signed up for a gmail account too. Cynthia: I won't disagree Raelara but realize in some smaller markets it doesn't function as well ...not many but a few Barb: I'm used to the aol type of environment and it's hard for me to change over to a different format. But I'm going to have to. Cynthia: I have my tattingaway email on gmail and my blog too...I write occasionally! Raelara: I just know that I have three emails (hotmail, yahoo, and gmail) and gmail is by far my favorite Barb: I have wave broadband for fast internet connection, but kept aol because I was used to their environment. Raelara: I use hotmail for stuff I never want to see (junk mail) Cynthia: I prefer yahoo then gmail Cynthia: but choices are like noses everyone has one... Raelara: yahoo for subscriptions to newsletters, etc. Raelara: and gmail for personal correspondence Barb: gmail has a blog spot? I have a blog on blogspot..but I always forget about it and have only written a couple paragraphs.. LOL Raelara: I love how all related emails are linked together in gmail. Cynthia: I got an account for my dog that I send junk mail to.. Barb: LOL for your dog? Raelara: lol Cynthia: I go in once a week and delet....she is a good cover...If you get a suspicious email from Sobie Stevenson ...you'll know somethibng is up with my other emails.... Barb: ok LOL Barb: I keep getting emails to myself, from myself that I never sent. I think it's spam..but I don't now how they got my email addy and how they say they are sending Cynthia: Wen once got a credit card for our other dog Pekoe...I filled it ou...name adddy, job--head of security, salary all the belly rubs he could talk us out of.... Raelara: good to know Barb: from my email addy when I'm the only one who knows the password. Cynthia: they wrote back...cute but no we don't issue credit cards to dogs... Barb: ROFL Barb: that's funny. Raelara: they shouldn't send solicitations then Cynthia: they are sneaky they steal it from someone else and make it look like its from you... Cynthia: I filled the application our correctly...no kidding...the 2 1/2 lp teacup poodle was head of (house) security. He'd run for help if trouble ever came up...lol Raelara: well, I had better go. My kids need lunch and my guinea pig is making me crazy. Raelara: lol Cynthia: pound that sould be.... Raelara: later! Cynthia: 2 1/2 pound teacup poodle Barb: cu later R :) Cynthia: I'd better go too. My new fish are waiting to get into the tank... Cynthia: see you this evening,....Peace and bye Barb: Yea me too. Danny just woke up from nap and needs to be changed. :) Barb: Oh Cynthia: bye... Barb: before you go Barb: did you get the email with the.. oh dang Barb: what is it called.. oh, the mock picot info? I found it on Georgia's site Barb: thought it might be good for your class Thursday if someone else asks like I did. Barb: oh dang. you must have left already. Ok.. bye AKTATTER from x.x.x.224 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: toffeapple are you here? AKTATTER: Oct. 19, 2009 evening session needle tatting AKTATTER: k AKTATTER: k AKTATTER: k Winkerbill from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 days ago Winkerbill: hi Georgia! AKTATTER: hey Steph Winkerbill: nobody here for needle tatting? AKTATTER: not yet anyway Cynthia from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: hi Cyn Cynthia: Hi Steph and Georgia Winkerbill: hi Cynthia Cynthia: Just to chat I guress until someone else shows up... Winkerbill: I'm up to 100 snowflakes, mostly from Mini-tats Winkerbill: 75 more to go..... Cynthia: I'll brb finishing a welcome message... AKTATTER: ok AKTATTER: oh you are going right along Winkerbill: wanted to give every employee of the nursing home where Dad is a snowflake "from him" for Christmas.... AKTATTER: that is really sweet I hope he is settling in now Winkerbill: I'd go a lot faster except I keep getting...um...sidetracked by other cool stuff to tat....like pumpkins and edgings and beaded stuff for me.... Winkerbill: He seems to be doing ok. He doesn't really know any of us other than 'familiar' or 'stranger,' but he eats good....talks a lot even though you can't understand anything he says.... Winkerbill: Gary's father had another round of cancer surgery this morning - they took out 5 small growths. This is the 2nd time they had to do surgery for bladder cancer this year. Winkerbill: :-( AKTATTER: perhaps that is better for him, oh! but be happy they were able to help! Winkerbill: I think they gave him chemo after the surgery, they also put him on an antibiotic for a while to avoid getting infections.... Winkerbill: He seems to be doing ok, too. Cynthia: your family is having a tough time, Steph I'll keep you in my thoughts and hold you in the light. Winkerbill: i stayed here and took phone messages for business calls, relayed info to other family members - sort of "status reports" from teh hospital when Gary called here. Winkerbill: Thanks. Cynthia: yw...I can't be there to help and this is what I can do... Winkerbill from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 days ago Winkerbill: got kicked out.... :-) Winkerbill: Cynthia - have you ever tried needle tatting with your non-dominant hand? Winkerbill: (as in pearl tatting, wrap with alternating hands....) Cynthia: Yes and it works reasonably well. ...lol you guessed how I do it...I'm not real good at it yet...but I keep practicing,,, ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Sun Oct 25 15:17:38 2009 GMT (338 KB) Page 3 of 7 - Char 102417 to 153733 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ Winkerbill: I've tried tatting with the shuttle with my left hand - when I was trying to help a leftie learn to tat, and she just wasn't "getting" it right handed.... AKTATTER: if you use a third hand for the needle it goes faster Winkerbill: I can tat that way, it's a bit awkward, though.... Winkerbill: hmm...wonder if I could hold the needle with my toes.... Winkerbill: that might work in warm weather, at least. Cynthia: hmmmmm I'll see if I can find one of those...it could be very handy when my right wrist won't work at all...I'm too stubborn to just give up tatting Winkerbill: Oh! I tried an "experiment" after Tat Days.... Cynthia: Georgia do you have a suggestion on where to find them? Winkerbill: I think Gary has one of those ....what do they call them, a 'helping hand' tool? Winkerbill: I'd pad the needle with something to avoid scratching it. AKTATTER: micro mark online or in catalog Winkerbill: I tried tatting a few motifs and using fabric glue to attach them. Washed it this morning in cold water, threw it in the dryer. AKTATTER: mine has three clmaps magnifier and light but there are simpler ones too Cynthia: I'll have to find one.... Winkerbill: The glue held very well except for where I decided to put 3 beads on a picot at the edges. It didn't "hold" the beads, so those beaded picots are floppy. Winkerbill: I'm going to try an edging on the wrists next....one with WAY more picots than I'd be willing to sew down by hand. Winkerbill: If it works, good! If not, no great loss. I'll wear it around the house. Winkerbill: [working on snowflakes again....] Sherong from x.x.x.113 joined the chat 5 days ago Winkerbill: hi Sheron! gail from x.x.x.66 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: k gail: Evening all Cynthia: Hi Gail and Sheron AKTATTER: welcome sheron and gail Sherong: Hi all Winkerbill: hi Gail cat2tat from x.x.x.68 joined the chat 5 days ago cat2tat: Hi everyone! Cynthia: All I have is white thread on my shuttles (and in my stash no orange :( ) but I'm making a "moon" from Ruth's pattern...a big harvest moon Winkerbill: hi Cathy! Sherong: Re third hand: Try a jewelery accessory place. They have them for holding a braclet while you clasp it on your other hand (or they used to) Winkerbill from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 days ago Winkerbill: gonna have to get some superglue, I guess. This is the 2nd time I fell off my7 chair and class hasn't even started yet! Winkerbill: ;-) Sherong: Velcro? Sherong: Duct tape? Winkerbill: a harvest moon with leaves and a stem? I thought about using a little food coloring to dye the pumpkin after I make it. Sherong: Seat belt? Sandy from x.x.x.189 joined the chat 5 days ago Cynthia: That might work...I'll see what I can find. I'm trying to find something to hold the needle when my right hand is too sore to tat... Sherong: Do it green and say it's not ripe yet Winkerbill: hmmm...Gary has some straps for tying down pianos - for when you're moving one - somewhere around here Sandy: Hello Everyone Cynthia: I skipped the leaves and stem...lol Winkerbill: or brown and it's overripe and rotten? cat2tat: At Tat Days one of my teachers recommended hackle pliers when you need a 3rd hand. Sherong: Steal your husbands vise, clamp it to the chair arm and put the hackle pliers in it. Then it acts like a spare hand Cynthia: it might work. I have some but what I need is something to hold the needle when my right hand can't...think tatting with only 1 hand.... Sherong: There was a spring or two in your goodie bag. Put the thread through that and it will add a little weight to the thread. Cynthia: that is an idea...I'll work on it...so far my right hand still works most days Sherong: Not the long way, between two rounds. Lynn from x.x.x.19 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: open chat 6 more minutes Cynthia: hi Lynn Winkerbill: that must be frustrating on teh days when your hand doesn't work. Cynthia: brb Winkerbill: hi lynn Lynn: hi Cynthia, thought I'd just lurk Lynn: hi everyone Winkerbill: Lynn, hit the letter 'k' once in a while to keep from getting kicked out of the room. otherwise the computer thinks you're not here and it wants to kick you out of class. Sherong: If you insist Lynn but we don Sherong: don't bite Sherong: Unless it's chocolate that is Winkerbill: of course, it'skicked me out twice already tonight....letter 'k' or not.... Winkerbill: ;-) Winkerbill: I have tea to go with the chocolate. Winkerbill: hehehe...I'll share if you will.... '-) tatcat14 from x.x.x.147 joined the chat 5 days ago Sherong: Sure. It's comming through the puter, pass it on after you take some Sherong: But I have my own tea thought tatcat14: made it! Winkerbill: ok, thanks. ;-) gail: I've got tea but it was a G&T kind of day so...:-) Winkerbill: hi cat tatcat14: hello Cynthia: Hi tatcat Cynthia: don;t just lurk we know you're here...you can participate... tatcat14: how is everyone? Lynn: sorry - went looking for the pumpkin.... Cynthia: Gail G &T? AKTATTER: are we ready? gail: Gin & tonic AKTATTER: LET'S GET STARTED AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN susan cuss from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 5 days ago Winkerbill: Stephanie W in western North Carolina USA Winkerbill: hi susan Cynthia: Got it Gail...I don't do alcohol so wasn't familiar... AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA susan cuss: Susan Cuss, McArthurs Mills,Ontario, Canada, susancuss@yahoo.com tatcat14: Eva Shock Barclay Md Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC Lynn: Lynn Dukes, Summerville, SC, LDukes@sc.rr.com shuttle Sandy: Sandy Cofer Bremerton, WA dscofer2@comcast.net Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com susan cuss: hi everyone gail: Gail jhayes, Maylene, al llawen1@yahoo.com gail: Hayws Cynthia: hi susan... Lynn: Sheron - you are close!!! Sherong: Lots of us in this area AKTATTER: WELCOME ONE AND ALL TO THE EVER ENLIGHTENING ONLINE TATTING CLASS gail: Darn It's not the G & T It's that kind of day. Hayes AKTATTER: GOODNESS ALONE KNOWS WHAT TOPICS WE WILL DISCUSS TONIGHT Sherong: At least one gal from Palmetto's is in Charleston AKTATTER: JUST REMEMBER THIS IS A FAMILY ROOOM SO NO BOOZE AND NO MORE PASTIES LOL gail: Darn. OK susan cuss: ha ha Cynthia: typos are very contagious so be careful...lol Sherong: No Pasties? But they taste good if you like that kind of cooking AKTATTER: OUR FIRST PATTERN TONIGHT IS IN KEEPING Cynthia: LOL and ROTFL!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Winkerbill: they're not typos, they're ...um....another language.... Sherong: Caribian that is AKTATTER: WITH THE SPIRIT OF THE BREAST CANCER CURE CAUSE AKTATTER: OK YOU TWO BACK TO THE CORNER WITH BOTH OG YOU! Lynn: lol AKTATTER: LILY MORALES SHARES HER PINK ANCHOR PATTERN WITH US Winkerbill: hey, i've got tea in the corner.... Sherong: Who? Me?? Winkerbill: pull up a chair Claudia from x.x.x.155 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: PINK FOR BREAST CANCER AND THE ANCHOR IS FOR HOPE AKTATTER: WELCOME CLAUDIA Cynthia: Hi Claudia... Claudia: hi!! sorry im late Winkerbill: hi claudia AKTATTER: THE FIRST PAGE IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/lilymoralespinkanchor1.jpg Cynthia: sign in please Claudia: hi all susan cuss: neat pattern AKTATTER: AND http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/lilymoralespinkanchor2.jpg Claudia: claudia meza cloelo@gmail.com argentina AKTATTER: NOW THOSE WHO WERE INTHE AFTERNOON CLASS ARE ASKED NOT TO GIVE AWAY THE ANSWERS AKTATTER: TO A FEW QUESTIONS WE ARE ABOUT TO DISCUSS AKTATTER: FIRST NOTE THE SPECIAL ABBREVIATIONS USED IN THE ANCHOR PATTERN AKTATTER: THE = SYMBOL MEANS TO MAKE A VERY TINY PICOT AKTATTER: THE MEREST BUMP LARGE ENOUGH TO GET THE HOOK THRU Winkerbill: just noticed the "frameless" frame. I've never seen one of them before. Winkerbill: (middle framed picture of anchor on 1st page) AKTATTER: SIMPLE BUT TASEFUL EH STEPH AKTATTER: AND THE PICOT HAVE SPEICAL SIZES TOO Winkerbill: yes, it's very nice. AKTATTER: THE REGULAR PICOT MARKED - IS TO BE 1/4 INCH WHEN OPEN AKTATTER: AND THE PICOT MARKED WITH A LONGER DASH --- IS TO BE 1/4" WHEN CLOSED AKTATTER: ANOTHER POINT TO WATCH IS THE TENSION ON THE CHAINS AKTATTER: THE DS MUST BE VERY TIGHT AND CLOSE TOGETHER Sandy: What is the reference on chain a to A1, A2 etc.? I just guessed. AKTATTER: IN FACT AS YOU FINISH EACH CHAIN AKTATTER: COMPRESS THE DS BACK TO THE START OF THE CHAIN AKTATTER: TO ENHANCE THE CURVE AKTATTER: AS SANDY WE WILL FOLLOW THAT ALONG AS WE GO AKTATTER: TO BEGIN THE PATTERN AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE PHOTO WITH RING A MARKED AT THE TOP AKTATTER: NOW PLEASE READ THE PATTERN DIRECTIONS TO RING A AND CHAIN a AKTATTER: NOW GO BACK TO THE PHOTO AND MATCH THE DIRECTIONS TO IT AKTATTER: THE FIRST QUESTION IS SIMPLY.. WHERE DO WE START? WHAT IS THE TOP OF RING A OR ITS BOTTOM? AKTATTER: IT TAKES A MOMENT TO REALLY SEE THE PATTERN DOESN'T IT? AKTATTER: ANY GUESSES YET? Cynthia: I can't guess...lol AKTATTER: OK LOOK AT THE SPOT WHERE RING A JOINS TO RING B AKTATTER: SEE CHAIN a DOES NOT JOIN TO RING A IN THAT AREA Lynn: botton sort of on the left?? AKTATTER: IN FACT IT LOOKS LIKE AN EXTRA OPEN SPOT AKTATTER: IF YOU NOTE THE RING A DIRECTIONS THERE ARE 2 SETS OF 3 DS gail: k susan cuss: gotcha AKTATTER: THOSE THAT PICOT BETWEEN THE TWO SETS OF 3 DS IS WHAT JOINS TO RING B AKTATTER: SO THE JOIN IS ACTUALLY THE TOP OF RING A AND THE BOTTOM OF RING A IS ACTUALLY THE TO POF THE ANCHOR AKTATTER: WHEW! ANCHORS AWEIGH! susan cuss: I see Claudia: k AKTATTER: NOW READ THE CHAIN a DIRECTIONS AGAIN, HOW MANY JOINS ARE THERE TO RING A? Cynthia: k susan cuss: 4? AKTATTER: ANYONE? Claudia: 4 AKTATTER: YES SUSAN YOU GOT IT! Cynthia: 9 AKTATTER: RIGTH CLAUDIA AKTATTER: BUT Cynthia: not me AKTATTER: THERE ARE 9PICOTS ON RING A AKTATTER: WHAT ABOUT THE OTHER PICOTS ON THE RING A? Sandy: 4 Winkerbill: those are the Scarlet O'Hara picots - think about them later.... Cynthia: other side and bottom? Winkerbill: ;-) AKTATTER: THOSE JOINS ARE NOT MADE UNTIL WE REACH CHAIN q !!!!!!!!! AKTATTER: VERY TRICKY AKTATTER: AFTER ESTABLISHING WHAT HAPPENS WITH RING A Claudia: yep AKTATTER: I THINK THE REST IS AS EASY AS HOISTING SAILS ON A CLIPPER SHIP Cynthia: ahoy.... AKTATTER: YOU WORK DOWN FROM RING A OVER TO THE LEFT ARM AND DOWN THE MAIN MAST IN THE CENTER susan cuss: clear sailing, then Winkerbill: betcha it's easier....those sails are probably awfully heavy. AKTATTER: AVAST ME HEARTIES, THEN YOU WORK OVER TO THE LEFT HOOK Winkerbill: ok, back to my corner.... AKTATTER: ACROSS THE BOTTOM CURVE tatcat14: um, is that tacking with the wind? AKTATTER: REMEMBER THE RTIGHT CURVES ON THE CHAINS gail: Oh, boy. Gonna have to do it to really see. Cynthia: no tatting with the wind... AKTATTER: THEN YOU COME ABOUT AND UP TO THE RIGHT POINT AKTATTER: OVER AND BACK UP THE CENTER POST AKTATTER: THEN THE RIGHT ARM AND BACK TO THE FINISH AT RINGA Cynthia: up the mast to the spar? susan cuss: looks like fun gail: definatly no booze AKTATTER: GAIL THAT IS AN IMPORTANT POINT, SOMETIMES WE JUST HAVE TO TAT IT TO UNDERSTAND IT Cynthia: just some rum... Winkerbill: gail you might try drawing it with a pencil - as if you were tatting it, but on paper. Claudia: i like it, have to tat it! AKTATTER: RIGHT CYN, gail: After Winkerbill: or at least take a pencil and "trace" the path of the rings and chains. AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THE ANCHOR? Winkerbill: on the picture of the anchor Claudia: good idea winkerbill Claudia: - gail: Buried under cats at the moment Winkerbill: it helps you learn to "see" it in your head....at least it helped me .... AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS TO LILY AKA LOOPYLACER FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US Claudia: thanks to her! Winkerbill: yes, please tell Lily thanks from all of us. AKTATTER: NEXT ON OUR LIST TONIGHT IS THE SLEEPY PUMPKIN cat2tat: k susan cuss: yes AKTATTER: BY NANCY TRACY FROM HER BOOK OF BOOKMARK PATTERNS Claudia: so sleepy!! Cynthia: definately AKTATTER: TAT'S WHERE I STOPPED AKTATTER: IS ANYONE A BEGINNING TATTER HERE TONIGHT? Winkerbill: if you used really small thread it would make a cute pin to wear Sandy: Thanks to Lily! Great pattern. AKTATTER: THE SMILE AND THE EYELASHES ARE MADE SEPARATELY AND GLUED/SEWN ON LATER susan cuss: it's cute AKTATTER: OK PLEASE EXAMINE THE DIAGRAM WITH THE DS COUNT ON IT FIRST AKTATTER: IF YOU CLICK THE PHOTO IT ENLARGES AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/nancytracypumpkin.html Winkerbill: oops, what was the diagram? This was teh photo with the typo, wasn't it? AKTATTER: TYPO IN THE LINK HERE IT IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/nancytracydiagram1.jpg Claudia: the link to the diagram is broken AKTATTER: AGAIN THE DIAGRAM SHOWS US WHERE TO START AS THERE ARE NO WRITTEN DIRECTIONS Claudia: thanks g. now i can see it AKTATTER: SO WHO KNOWS WHERE WE START? Lynn: sorry - husband just came in - I'm a beginner Claudia: at the top? AKTATTER: OK GOOD LYNN THIS IS A GREAT PATTERN FOR BEGINNERS AKTATTER: NANCY HAS THE START OF THE PUMPKIN IN THE CENTER AT RING A Claudia: ok AKTATTER: YOU TAT RING AND CHAIN UP THE RIGHT SIDE AND DOWN THE LEFT SIDE AND BACK TO THE BOTTOM AKTATTER: OF RING A AND THEN GASP HORRORS OH NO! WE CUT AND TIE! Claudia: nooo susan cuss from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: AND THEN NANCY HAS US TO START THE OUTER ROUND SEPARATELY AND END AT THE STEM AKTATTER: BUT WE TATTERS DO NOT LIKE ENDS! Sherong: End split chain and climb out AKTATTER: WE DO NOT LIKE TO CUT AND TIE AKTATTER: SO WHERE CAN WE START THIS RING Claudia: yes.. a split chain AKTATTER: SO WE CAN CLIMB OUT INTO THE NEXT ROUND AKTATTER: AND STILL END UP AT THE CHAIN? AKTATTER: RIGHT A SPLIT CHAIN!!!! AKTATTER: BUT WHERE? Sandy: I did the center then split chain to outer row and ended with the stem. AKTATTER: RIGHT SANDY Sherong: Start where she does AKTATTER: SO LETS MAKE RING A THE LAST OF THOSE FOUR RINGS IN THE CNETER Sandy: Top ring in center, I think AKTATTER: AND WHEN GET GET BACK TO THE NEW STARTING POINT TAT THE CHAIN UP TO THE LST PICOT AKTATTER: THEN DO THE SHORT 4 DS SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: NOW WE NEED TO MARK THE START OF THE OUTER ROUND Claudia: k gail: k AKTATTER: SO THE RING B ON THE LEFT BECOMES OUR RING ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE AKTATTER: AND WE CLIMB OUT WITH THE SPLIT RING 3 - 3 / 3 - 3 AKTATTER: FROM HERE THE REST IS AS EASY AS PUMPKIN PIE AKTATTER: RING AND CHAIN AROUND Claudia: k AKTATTER: UNTIL YOU REACH TEH ORIGINAL RING B ON THE LEFT AKTATTER: THAT BECOMES A SPLIT RING AKTATTER: BUT WHAT WILL BE DIFFERENT ABOUT THIS SPLIT RING? Claudia: right AKTATTER: THIS WILL BE AN OFF CENTER SPLIT RING AKTATTER: AS YOU ARE TURNING A 90 DEGREE ANGLE AKTATTER: SO SPLIT RING B IS 3 / 3 3 3 CLOSE AKTATTER: MOCK PICOT INTO THE LAST TINY RING AKTATTER: AND HOW SHOULD WE TAT THIS SPLIT RING? AKTATTER: ANYONE?? AKTATTER: DID YOU FALL ASLEEP? Winkerbill: with a big smile because we love tattign split rings? Claudia: just thinking... Lynn: ? AKTATTER: IS MY TYPING LIKE THE DRONING OF A CICADA DID I PUT YOU TO SLEEP Sherong: With two shuttles Lynn: don't know how to do split rings yet :( gail: Still awake Winkerbill: i was tatting.....can't type and tat....yet. AKTATTER: OK THE TINY RING AT THE END NEEDS TO END IN TEH STEM susan cuss: well, as a needle tatter, would it be any dif from a reg ring? AKTATTER: SO IT TOO MAKES A 90 DEGREE TURN Claudia: similar to ring B AKTATTER: YSE SUSAN IT WOULD BE A SPLIT RING JUST AS IN SHUTTLE TATTING Cynthia: they are in lesson 5 for shuttle beginners... Winkerbill: that's ok lynn, you'll learn after a while, and they're lots of fun to do. AKTATTER: RING 3 / 3 3 3 CLOSE AND EXIT INTO CHAIN FOR STEM Winkerbill: and Cynthia is a good teacher. Cynthia: just 2 weeks AKTATTER: RIGHT CLAUDIA SMAE PRINCIPLE AS RING B Lynn: waiting..... Claudia: ok Cynthia: thanks Steph but I got to learn from the best...Georgia and Mimi... AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PUMPKIN AKTATTER: ::) Winkerbill: yeah, both of them are awesome teachers, too. AKTATTER: GOSH I EVEN HAVE A TYPO IN A SMILEY ROFL tatcat14: Is it the Great Pumpkin? gail: Think I've got it AKTATTER: WERE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BONUS PATTERNS OF PUMPKINS? AKTATTER: YOU BET IT IS TAT AKTATTER: THEY ARE ALL GREAT PATTERNS AND TEH ONE BY MARY MAYNARD IS GOOD FOR BEGINNERS tatcat14: Can I tell Linus? susan cuss: no questions yet AKTATTER: HEIDI'S PUMPKINS ON A VINE IS A CLASSIC ONE AKTATTER: BUT I SUGGEST USING THE ONION RING JOIN INSTEAD OF THE RING SURROUNDED BY CHAINS Sandy: Mary Maynards was one of the first patterns I did! AKTATTER: TO ELIMINATE THAT UNWANTED SPECK OF COLOR AT THE SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN AKTATTER: WTG SANDY! AKTATTER: OK WE HAVE ONE MORE PATTERN FROM NANCY TONIGHT AKTATTER: NANCY HAS A NEWSLETTER AND YOU CAN GET A PATTERN EVERY MONTH IF YOU SIGN UP Cynthia: and an awesome one it is too! Winkerbill: and this month's pattern is a really pretty one. AKTATTER: JUST GO TO www.bestitched.com AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/files/0910medallion.pdf Cynthia: I was thinking to do the first 2 rounds in red and the last one in green for a poinsettia kind of look... Claudia: nice colours Cynthia: the variegated is pretty to AKTATTER: I THINK THIS PATTERN JUST BEGS FOR MULTI COLORED THREADS LIKE THE NEW LZBETH ONES Claudia: i receive the newsletter Lynn: that is so pretty. Cynthia: true AK AKTATTER: GOOD CLAUDIA! I SAVE EVERYONE OF THEM AKTATTER: OK NOW WE KNOW THAT TRACY LIKES TO CUT AND TIE AKTATTER: SO HOW CAN WE AVOID THAT IN THIS PATTERN Cynthia: no reason not to...I have them in a notebook already..dedicated to her patterns AKTATTER: WE BEGIN WITH THE 5 RINGS IN THE CENTER AKTATTER: AND THE 5 CHAINS Winkerbill: did Nancy mention how big the medallion is using size 20 thread? Sandy: Lizbeth is my new favorite! AKTATTER: I BOUGHT NEW NOTEBOOKS AT WALMARTS AFTER SCHOOL SALE $1 EACH! susan cuss from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: CHECK THE WEBSITE STEPH IT IS NOT ON THE PATTERN AKTATTER: WB SUSAN AKTATTER: NOW WHEN WE COME TO THE END OF THE 5TH CHAIN susan cuss: TY AKTATTER: WHO KNOWS WHAT TO DO? Cynthia: wow AK I didn't find any I liked--only ones left here were the 1/2 and 1 inch... AKTATTER: OK WE DO A SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: RIGHT TIME RIGHT PLACE :) AKTATTER: YOU TAT UP TO THE 3 TO LAST PICOT Cynthia: I'd do it different...fo the last petal as a split ring with the long end and go from there... AKTATTER: AND THEN BOTH SHUTTLE AND NEEDLE TATTERS WILL MAKE THE SPLIT CHAIN Winkerbill: i used to go to a warehouse club and buy 2-packs of HUGE notebooks....D-ring kind. Managed to cram some of THOSE monsters full of patterns and technique into - mostly techniques. Claudia: k AKTATTER: 3 3 3 CLIMB PUT WITH MOCK PICOT AKTATTER: THAT BRINGS US INTO THE OUTER ROUND AKTATTER: OK SO WHAT IS NEXT? Cynthia: I like the 3" ones as they are big enough to hold plenty without out being too heavy...back to tatting and my corner AKTATTER: AH NO GUESSES? AKTATTER: OK SPLIT RING IS NEXT Cynthia: another split chain? susan cuss: a split ring? AKTATTER: IT IS THE MIDDLE RING OF THE TREFOIL AKTATTER: RIGHT CYN AKTATTER: AND AGAIN REMEMBER Cynthia: ah ha just a different spot than I was...lol AKTATTER: WE LEARNED TONIGHT THTA A SPLIT RING DOES NOT HAVE TO ME HALF AND HALF AKTATTER: THIS ONE IS OFF CENTER ALSO Claudia: k gail: k Winkerbill: k AKTATTER: SO SPLIT RING 2 - 2 4 - 2 / 4 - 2 CLOSE AKTATTER: THE REST IS JUST RING AND CHAIN REPEAT AKTATTER: OK WE COVERED A LOT TONIGHT AKTATTER: MAIN POINTS AKTATTER: READ THE PATTERN AKTATTER: LOOK FOR UNUSUAL SITUATIONS AKTATTER: UNDERSTNAD THE ABBREVIATIONS AKTATTER: AND ABOVE ALL Cynthia: read twice tat once... gail: I've got some Lizbeth varigated. Hum... AKTATTER: AVOID CUT AND TIE! AKTATTER: TURE WORDS CYN AKTATTER: OK LST CALL FOR QUESTIONS Claudia: dont like to cut and tie AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO NANCY AND LILY FOR SHARING THEIR WORK Winkerbill: i've got some turqoise ombre lizbeth thread....maybe I'll give that medallion a shot and stick it on a sweat shirt or something. :-) AKTATTER: BEGINNERS CLASS ON THURS susan cuss: a question about the quilt squares AKTATTER: SOUNDS GOOD STEPH AKTATTER: YES SUSAN? Cynthia: none here...but I'll send a scan of my pumpkin harvest moon"moon" gail: It will all make sense when I do it. ?Thanks G AKTATTER: OK GREAT CYN YOUR'E WELCOME GAIL Claudia: thanks g, nancy and lily susan cuss: yes, I'd like to have 2 squares, #87 & 89 and have sent a cppl of emails, but maybe you haven't received them? Lynn: I look forward to doing some of these patterns - when I learn enough!! Winkerbill: Cynthi if you use ecru and glue/sew it to a felt circle, you can make a lattice-top pie.....mmmm....blueberry pie.... Winkerbill: or cherry AKTATTER: i WILL GO CHECK IT IS EASY FOR ME TO GET BEHIND IN EMAIL Cynthia: neat idea Steph susan cuss: ok, thanks, and thanks for the class Winkerbill: oh, they're so much fun to do, Lynn. AKTATTER: THANK ALL O FYO UFOR STOPPING BY AKTATTER: THE LOG WILL POST IN A FEW MINUTES GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING Cynthia: Thank you Georgia for helping us learn....Peace Winkerbill: night Georgia....and thanks for all your work. AKTATTER from x.x.x.224 left the chat 5 days ago Claudia: good night all. thanks for the class!!! tatcat14: great class Sandy: Thanks for the great patterns and lesson! Now for some more time to get them completed! Night all. susan cuss: g'night tat on Claudia: by girls!!! cat2tat: Good Night Everyone! Claudia: nice to meet you again!!! Winkerbill: night everyone. Cynthia: tat's all for tonight.... Winkerbill from x.x.x.14 left the chat 5 days ago gail: Night all hard to type with a fur person on the keys Cynthia: Bye and Peace Sherong: Nite all Sherong from x.x.x.113 left the chat 5 days ago Lynn: nite Barb from x.x.x.141 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.224 joined the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER: THE LOG SEEMS JAMMED WILL POST IT TOMORROW NIGHTERS AKTATTER from x.x.x.224 left the chat 5 days ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.250 joined the chat 4 days ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.250 sent out 1 invitation(s) 4 days ago toffeeapple from x.x.x.171 joined the chat 4 days ago AKTATTER: sorry to have missed you we'll try again toffeeapple: hello AKTATTER from x.x.x.250 joined the chat 4 days ago AKTATTER: are you here? AKTATTER: http://personalpages.tds.net/~tatting/ toffeeapple: yes AKTATTER: ok please go to that page for me AKTATTER: and read the directions for either left or right hand toffeeapple: i did that yeaterday AKTATTER: ok you know the ds the ring toffeeapple: yes AKTATTER: you didn't understand the chain AKTATTER: please look at the chain page toffeeapple: ok toffeeapple: yes saw that too but because i am only using one shuttle i couldn't understand what i would have to do AKTATTER: to make a ring you need one shuttle AKTATTER: to make chains you need one shuttle and a ball of thread or 2 shuttles AKTATTER: do you have two shuttles? toffeeapple: yes AKTATTER: ook tie the two tails together in a fat knot and use that as the pinching point and tat one ring AKTATTER: like this R 3 - 3 - 3 - 3 close ring AKTATTER: type k when you are done toffeeapple: ok toffeeapple: what do you mean r 3 AKTATTER: R= Ring 3 = the number of ds tatted in a row - = the picot toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: so wrap the hand for a ring, tat 3 ds picot 3 ds picot 3 ds picot 3 ds close ring AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/design.html AKTATTER: we'll use the above links later toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: great AKTATTER: now pay the ring down ont he table before you AKTATTER: with thebottom of the ring where you closed it cloest to you toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: now look at this page http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html AKTATTER: in the first photo the ring on the left is the first ring of a row, just like what you tatted AKTATTER: the next step is to tat the chain which goes from the bottom of your ring AKTATTER: to the bottom of the next ring, the new one, on the right AKTATTER: to start the chain we have to reverse work toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: the second photo shows the ring after RW = reverse work AKTATTER: see the bottom of the ring is on the side farthest from you AKTATTER: and the midle picot of the ring faces you AKTATTER: so take your ring and reverse work toffeeapple: k toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: so take the bottom of the ring and make it your pinching point AKTATTER: wrap your hand for a chain AKTATTER: see thephoto http://personalpages.tds.net/~tatting/tat/chain/chain.html AKTATTER: the thread from the second shuttle is wrapped around your left hand to make the chain AKTATTER: the first shuttle will be used to make the ds flip AKTATTER: you make the ds the exact same way AKTATTER: so now tat a chain CH 3 - 3 RW AKTATTER: that means tat a chain = CH 3 ds picot 3 ds and reverse work again AKTATTER: type k when done AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/joins/103joins.html AKTATTER: telelphone be right back toffeeapple: done 2 stitches. struggling with the two threads AKTATTER: ok just so slowly AKTATTER: go toffeeapple: k toffeeapple: ow many doubles shall i do AKTATTER: 3 ds picot 3 ds toffeeapple: k toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: be right with you telephone AKTATTER: chain done ? toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: did you rw? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Sun Oct 25 15:18:37 2009 GMT (338 KB) Page 4 of 7 - Char 153734 to 204803 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ toffeeapple: ? r w AKTATTER: look at thr first foto again toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: rw =reverse work AKTATTER: now the ring should be abovethe chain as AKTATTER: in that foto AKTATTER: if not turn the work to matv=ch the foto toffeeapple: just got to get used to the abbr. it is AKTATTER: ok now wrap your hand AKTATTER: for aring AKTATTER: for aring AKTATTER: with the first shuttle toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: tat 3 ds and stop toffeeapple: k toffeeapple: k AKTATTER: sorry telephone AKTATTER: it was a repairman AKTATTER: argh!! toffeeapple: i have to go now anyway. i will practice what we have done AKTATTER: now look at this photo again AKTATTER: oh ok please practice and email me again toffeeapple: it's got to be done AKTATTER: this was fun AKTATTER: : http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/joins/103joins.html toffeeapple: your repair i mean AKTATTER: study that page so we can do teh join next time toffeeapple: ok will do. need practice with two threads. can it be done with one shuttle? AKTATTER: lol no my repair person has kept me waiting since 8 am today and now says he came and talked to me and left AKTATTER: to do a chain you must have 2 threads AKTATTER: so he has to come back tomorrow AKTATTER: I'll bet he was at the wrong house toffeeapple: sounds like our repair men lol. ok AKTATTER: any way you practice AKTATTER: talk to you soon AKTATTER from x.x.x.250 left the chat 4 days ago toffeeapple: that sounds like ours too lol toffeeapple: ok thanks toffeeapple: bye for now Tat Pat 1 from x.x.x.95 joined the chat 4 days ago Tat Pat 1: Hi, just checking in Tat Pat 1: Today is Tuesday, OOOPPPS wrong day. Senior moment. BYE