The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Oct 6 01:18:26 2009 GMT (75 KB) Page 1 of 2 - Char 1 to 51355 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER from x.x.x.249 cleared the room 6 hours ago AKTATTER: Oct. 5, 2009 afternoon needle tatting session AKTATTER: Please sign in AKTATTER: AKTATTER@aol.com Georgia Seitz Greenup IL USA meowy: stacey usa staceywrites at gmail.com AKTATTER: Welcome Stacey meowy: if it's just me, i can attend the evening version :) AKTATTER: we never know who will show up so you maight as well stay and enjoy it meowy: hehe okay AKTATTER: DID YOU HAVE A SPECIFIC QUESTION ON NEEDLE TATTING TODAY? meowy: no, just came to hear what others discuss :) AKTATTER: ok well let my look at a pattern for you brb AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ruthpbug09.pdf AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ruthpbug09.pdf AKTATTER: what about the pattern from last week AKTATTER: are you able to do it in needle tatting? meowy: ohh I tried the catherine join but it didn't go well, going to try it again this week now that i have mor etime :) meowy: I couldn't quite figure out how many ds i should do each round, do i just do enough to make it lay flat? AKTATTER: ok for the needle tatting just do enough to make it lie flat AKTATTER: then when you want to join slide the last chain of the needle meowy: ohhh i was way over thinking it then, ugh.. i was feeling dense because I couldn't figure out where it said the numbers haha AKTATTER: bring the thread from the needle next to the ds where you want to join AKTATTER: but meowy: i'll try the bug this week too! I'll try that one and the sun AKTATTER: use the needle as if it were a shuttle and simple WRAP a ds over both threads AKTATTER: yse the sun WAS A GOOD PATTERN, SO CUTE AS ARE ALL ELEEN'S DESIGNS meowy: ohh got it, gonna writ ethat down too meowy: yah her stuff is cute :) AKTATTER: YOU MIGHT LOOK AT THIS OLDER LESSON TOO AKTATTER: www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/padded.html AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/padded.html AKTATTER: CLICK THE LINK IT SHOULD OPEN A NEW WINDOW meowy: thank you, bookmarking it too hehe meowy: ohh i like that padding effect, that's pretty AKTATTER: THERE YOU CAN SEE THE COILED CHAIN ALSO AKTATTER: BUT IT IS NOT SO TIGHTLY COILED meowy: i really like how that looks AKTATTER: THERE ARE ACTUAL NORMAL SIZE PICOTS AKTATTER: http://www.snowgoose.cc/friv/cath_wheel.htm AKTATTER: have you ever visited the snowgoose site? AKTATTER: http://www.snowgoose.cc/friv/index.html meowy: yay! thanks, I will try that.. seeing it in the varigated thread makes it easier to see what I should be doing meowy: no, not till today meowy: eek I love these http://www.snowgoose.cc/friv/coasters.htm AKTATTER: THEY ARE GREAT! AKTATTER: NOW LOOK AT THIS AKTATTER: http://www.miss-laurence.co.uk/graphics/stitches/blanket-stitch.gif AKTATTER: THAT IS AN OLD FASHIONED BLANKKET STITCH meowy: I've done those in embroidery AKTATTER: AND THAT IS HOW i WAS TRYING TO DESCRIBE THE WRAPPING meowy: Oh! I get it now, wasn't quite sure before.. i figured I'd just try it and hope for the best haha Rosemarie from x.x.x.20 joined the chat 6 hours ago meowy: hi rosemarie Rosemarie: Hi! Rosemarie: I wwas wondering whether these needle tatting instructions are for the catherine wheel join? AKTATTER: HELLO rISEMARIE AKTATTER: LET ME SEE IF THERE ARE SEPARATE NEEDLE TATTING DIRECTIONS FOR THE THE cw JOIN Angela from x.x.x.22 joined the chat 6 hours ago Rosemarie: Hello! I'm interested in the advanced class, but I'm still a beginner. Angela: Hello everyone meowy: hi angela AKTATTER: HELLO ANGELA I'M LOOKING FOR A HOW TO Angela: He meowy and AK AKTATTER: ROSEMARIE HAVE YOU SEEN THIS PAGE? AKTATTER: http://home.comcast.net/~frmuse/index.html Angela: was making applesauce and almost forgot class, good thing I had a reminder set on my phone! AKTATTER: i DON'T FIND ANYTHING SEPARATE HAVE YOU STUDIED THIS PAGE ALREADY? http://www.ds9designs.com/patterns_free/CatherineWheelJoin.pdf meowy: afk just one min, phone Rosemarie: WOW - looks like the entire tatting universe! AKTATTER: BRB i'LL LOOK FURTHER AKTATTER: IT IS A GREAT PAGE meowy: back cat2tat from x.x.x.68 joined the chat 6 hours ago Rosemarie: Yes, I've been lloking at it. Sometimes I like to try the needle and the shuttle, and I have trouble when I don't have drawings for the method that I'm using. cat2tat: Hi Everyone! meowy: hi cat! meowy: me too rosemary, but i had trouble either way this past week with it hehe AKTATTER: WELCOME CAT AKTATTER: OK i DON'T FIND A SEPARATE PAGE FOR IT Rosemarie: I made Ruth's bug last week. Winkerbill helped me. She suggested that I finger tatt the head, and it worked out fine. One of his little legs stands up like he's hailing a taxi cab. AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU CAN THINK ABOUT THIS CATHERIN WHEEL JOIN A BIT AKTATTER: PLACING A DS IN THE LINE IS JUST LIKE WRAP A DS ONTO THE NEEDLE AKTATTER: BUT INSTEAD OF THE NEEDLE YOU ARE WRAPPING OVER TWO THREADS Rosemarie: I don't know what that means. AKTATTER: THE THREAD FROM BELOW WHERE YOU MAKE THE JOIN AND THE THREAD THAT COMES FROM THE NEEDLE WHICH IS LAID NEXT TO IT TO BE COVERED AT THE SAME TIME Marie Smith from x.x.x.102 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: THE NEEDLE JUST MAKES IT EASIER TO DO BECAUSE YOU CAN POKE IT COMPLETELY THROUGH THE AREA meowy: hi marie smith AKTATTER: WHERE A SHUTTLE MUST USE THE POINT OF HOOK TO BRING A LOOP OF THREAD FORWARD AND POST THE SHUTTLE THRU IT Marie Smith: Hello! AKTATTER: HEN BRING A LOPP BACKWARDS THE SAME WAY AKTATTER: LOOK AT THIS PHOTO http://www.miss-laurence.co.uk/graphics/stitches/blanket-stitch.gif meowy: hmm i think later i'll bring the log up as i do the join and see if makes more sense as I try it hehe AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIE, DID YOU SEE THE NOTE FROM MARK MYERS TODAY? picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 6 hours ago cat2tat: Is there a book that explains how to convert patterns from shuttle to needle? Marie Smith: no, what did he want? Is he looking for me? AKTATTER: THE STRAIGHT BLACK LINE OF THE BLANKET = THE TWO THREADS YOU ARE COVERING WITH A DS AKTATTER: YES HIS EMAIL IS NOT REACHING YOU AKTATTER: TRY HIM THRU THE LIST AKTATTER: NO BOOK CAT AS YOU DO NOT CONVERT THE PATTERNS AKTATTER: A RING IS A RING A CHAIN IS A CHAIN Marie Smith: my computer is crashing on Yahoo AKTATTER: IT IS HOW YOU MAKE THE RING OR THE CHAIN THAT DIFFERS AKTATTER: WELCOME PICOT cat2tat: ok thanks AKTATTER: ANY OTHER NEEDLE TATTING QUESTIONS? Raelara from x.x.x.84 joined the chat 6 hours ago picotsnkeys: Hi everyone AKTATTER: HELLO JENNI picotsnkeys: Good to see you Jenni AKTATTER: OPEN CHAT CONTINUES 9 MINUTES meowy: hi picots and raelara meowy: thank you georgia! i saved all the pages and I'll try the sun again tonight and the bug too cat2tat: Hi everyone AKTATTER: WHILE WE ARE IN OPEN CHAT PERHAPS SOME OF YOU MIGHT LIKE TO LOOK AT THE QUILT BLOCKS UP FOR ADOPTION AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/adoptablock.html AKTATTER: THAT'S GREAT JUST KEEP TRYING Raelara: hi everyone Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 6 hours ago cat2tat: Georgia, did you send out an email about what we are doing today? I didn't get one. Jenny: Hi everybody Raelara: G, what is the average length needed for each piece on the quiltblocks?? AKTATTER: YES i DID meowy: those are pretty squares Raelara: I didn't get it either, G AKTATTER: THE BLOCK WHEN TRIMMED WILL BE 10" SQUARE meowy: me either, no email AKTATTER: I'M HAVING COMPUTER TRROUBLES AND WILL TAKE IT IN FOR SERVICE TOMORROW Jenny: Nor me AKTATTER: MY AOL CRASHES THE WHOLE COMPUTER EVERY TIME I TRY TO GET MAIL OR FIND A LINK FOR CLASS AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: YOU KNOW THAT YOU CAN ALWAYS GO TO THE MAIN INDEX picotsnkeys: I just assumed I wouldn't see an email among all the other, so I went snooping AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009INDEX.HTML Marie Smith: mine, too, Georgia cat2tat: I went to the website and found the Lydie-Bug Ornament. Is that for today? Marie Smith: mine crashes all the time. It is frustrating Jenny: I went to the index but haven't managed to find a 4 hole button in my box. Will get Grandma's button tin out later AKTATTER: it sures is AKTATTER: so frustrating picotsnkeys: I'm looking forward to tips for working with buttons AKTATTER: Karye solomon has a whole book of patterns with buttons meowy: that's cute AKTATTER: and I think Wally may have one also Raelara: I have never tried to tat with buttons before picotsnkeys: I saw one in the Musem, but chickend out! AKTATTER: they make great center pieces Marie Smith: She has two books with buttons now AKTATTER: has everyone downloaded the Mary Fitch book #6? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/MaryFitch6.pdf Raelara: that's the one we looked at last time? AKTATTER: yes that is it AKTATTER: ok time to get started AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Gretta from x.x.x.23 joined the chat 6 hours ago Gretta: Hello everyone AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA meowy: stacey usa staceywrites at gmail.com Gretta: Gretta Wilhite, Crane Hill Alabama USA Angela: Angela Miracle aanjel51@yahoo.com Lupton MI USA Raelara: Jenni Sherriff raelara@gmail.com San Lorenzo, CA USA picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi in Los Gatos, CA USA picotsnkeys @ Yahoo.com cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA Jenny: Jenny Griffin, Northampton, England AKTATTER: HI GRETTA WELCOME AKTATTER: HELLO JENNY GOOD TO SEE YOU AGAIN AKTATTER: OK SHALL WE LOOK AT THE BLOCK PAGE FIRST? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/adoptablock.html AKTATTER: THESE ARE SOME OF THE BLOCKS THAT NEED TO BE ADOPTED AKTATTER: THEY ARE NUMBERED AKTATTER: USA TATTERS MAY HAVE THE BLOCK MAILED TO THEM Raelara: when is the deadline for them? AKTATTER: BUT BECAUSE OF THE EXPENSE, WE ARE ASKING THE OVERSEAS TATTERS TO MAIL IN TRIMS AKTATTER: THE OVERSEAS TATTER MAY ADOPT THE BLOCK AND THEN I WILL MEASURE EVERY SEAM AKTATTER: OR THE AREA OF ANY ONE SPACE FOR THEM AND THEN SEW ON THEIR TRIMS LATER Raelara: It looks like they all have the same size pieces, you may only have to measure one block AKTATTER: IF YOU RPINT OFF A COPY OF THE BLOCK REMEMBER THAT THE FINISHED BLOCK WILL BE 10" SQUARE Raelara: it looks like all the seams should be the same AKTATTER: RIGHT JENNIE AKTATTER: BUT THIS WAS MY FIRST QUILTING PROJECT AND THEY ARE NOT PERFECT Raelara: ah AKTATTER: AND IF YOU PRINT OFF THE BLOCK YOU CAN TAPE ON THE TRIMS WHERE YOU WANT THEM TO GO WHEN THEY ARE SEWN DOWN Angela: they all look good, you did a great job! AKTATTER: :) Raelara: do we have all year for this, or do you need the pieces done soon? AKTATTER: DEADLINE IS JUNE 1, 2010 AKTATTER: SOONER IS BETTER cat2tat: they are all pretty! AKTATTER: THE BLOCKS ARE NUMBERED SO LOOK THEM OVER AND THEN EMAIL ME LATER AT aktatter@AOL.COM AKTATTER: THANKS. WE ARE TRYING FOR 100 BLOCKS Raelara: I'll take one then. So long as it doesn't have to be done by Christmas. AKTATTER: THESE ARE BLOCKS 81 - 95 Raelara: I'll email you later with my address AKTATTER: THE FINISHED QUILT/WALL HANGING WILL RASIE FUNDS FOR THE SCHOLARSHIPS AKTATTER: THANKS AKTATTER: OK NOW LE'TS LOOK AT THE FITCH BOOK A MOMENT AKTATTER: THERE IS LOTS OF INSPIRATION IN HER FOR DECORATING YOUR QUILT BLOCK AKTATTER: WE ALREADY DISCUSSED FIGURES 7, 9 AND 11 AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT FIGURE 14 AKTATTER: THIS CLASSIC WHEEL WAS MADE INTO A FLOWER AND THIS MOTIF APPEARED IN MANY OF THE OLD BOOKS AKTATTER: AND #15 UNJOINED RINGS Jenny: Which page is fig 14 on? AKTATTER: PG 6 FIG 14 AND FIG 15 AKTATTER: THOSE UNJOINED RINGS WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT FOR BEADING AKTATTER: FIG 22 ON PG 8 AKTATTER: IT HAS THAT ROLL TATTING ALSO cat2tat: I can't find Fig. 14 on page6 Raelara: neither can I meowy: i think my page 6 is missing AKTATTER: BUT IT WOULD BE A GOOD SPOT FOR USING THE DOUBBLE BOBBIN SHUTTLE TO BRING IN 3 COLORS TO MATCH THE BLOCK picotsnkeys: my PDF jumps from fig. 11 to fig. 16 AKTATTER: IGNORE THE PG 3 JUST LOOK FOR THE FIG NUMBER Jenny: I can't find it either Gretta: I have a page 6 but it starts with fig 16 Raelara: the page numbers on the pages go from page 5 to page 7 AKTATTER: THERE ARE DIFFERENT VERSIONS POSTED picotsnkeys: I do like fig 22 cat2tat: yes, I have that one Raelara: Figure 22 is neat AKTATTER: AND THE PATERN ON THE FRONT COVER AKTATTER: IT SUBSTITUTES HALF CLOSED RINGS OR JOSEPHINE RINGS FOR CHAINS Raelara: Yeah, I like that one Raelara: do you have a link for a version that has page 6? cat2tat: me too AKTATTER: I THINK THAT IS A NICE LINE AND DIFFERENT FROMA REGULAR CHAIN AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/MaryFitch6.pdf AKTATTER: TRY THAT ONE Raelara: also gives you the look of a chain without needing two shuttles AKTATTER: THE PATTERN FROM THE COVER IS FIGURE 42 AKTATTER: RIGHT THAT IS ACOOL LOOK Raelara: I think that is the version I had AKTATTER: DOES EVERYONE HAVE A FIGURE 39 A COLLAR? meowy: yes picotsnkeys: very pretty AKTATTER: ON THE COLLAR THERE ARE CURVED PATTERNS THAT LOOK LIKE WHEAT SHEAVES Raelara: yeah Raelara: way cool AKTATTER: THOSE ARE ALSO UNJOINED RINGS AS SHOWN IN FIG 41 AKTATTER: THEY ARE GRADUATED IN SIZE AKTATTER: AND IT IS IN THE SEWING DOWN THAT YOU MAKE THE CURVE AKTATTER: OR IT COULD BE A WAVE FOR THOSE WITH WATER BLOCK PIECES Jenny: Yes I have the collar it is beautiful AKTATTER: SIMPLE YET CLASSY Angela: I just printed that page. Raelara: too bad people don't use removable collars anymore AKTATTER: GREAT AKTATTER: YES IT IS Angela: we could start a new fad, maybe? AKTATTER: OK IF ANYONE SPOTS A GOOD PATTERN IN PUBLIC DOMAIN THAT MIGHT SHOW WELL ON THE BLOCKS PLEASE LET US KNOW FOR NEXT WEEK. AKTATTER: I WISH WE COULD! AKTATTER: OK NOW FOR WALLY'S ORNAMENT picotsnkeys: k picotsnkeys: brb AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/wallysosalydiebugornament.pdf Raelara: I like it AKTATTER: GOT IN ON SCREEN OR PRINTED? meowy: yes AKTATTER: NOW IF THIS IS YOUR FIRST PIECE OF TATTING WITH A BUTTON Raelara: yes Jenny: I've never heard of a Lydie-bug, Angela: yes AKTATTER: YOU HAVE TO REMEMBER TO MEASURE CAREFULLY picotsnkeys: yes Jenny: yes i have the pattern AKTATTER: LYDIE-BUG IS A SMALL FRIEND OF WALLY'S AKTATTER: THE FIRST RING HAS THE LONG PICOT SO YOU MUST PULL IT UP THRU THE HOLE OF THE BUTTON AKTATTER: AND ACROSS AND DOWN INTO THE HOLE OF THE OPPOSITE BUTTON AKTATTER: THEN PUT A PIN IN IT SO IT WON'T SLIP AWAY AND TAKE OUT THE SLACK AND FINISH THE RING picotsnkeys: ah! AKTATTER: WHEN YOU REACH THE OPPOSITE POINT YOU WILL JOIN INTO THE LONG PICOT Raelara: makes sense AKTATTER: I AM SURE THERE ARE OTHER WAYS TO DO IT BY JUST MEASURING TOO AKTATTER: DOES ANYONE HAVE A DIFFERENT METHOD TO SHARE? Raelara: seems like that way is easier and potentially more precise meowy: what does (3b) mean? Raelara: cause you can just pull the picot to the edge of the button Jenny: sounds like the best way Raelara: 3 beads? AKTATTER: 3 B = 3 BEADS meowy: oh! ty AKTATTER: THERE ARE 3 BEADS ON TEH PICOTS AKTATTER: RIGHT AKTATTER: THE RINGS ARE JOINED TIGHTLY ON THE SIDES ALSO AKTATTER: YOU WILL NOTE THAT THE 8 RINGS IN THE CENTER CREATE THE LOOK OF A SQUARE AKTATTER: YOU ALTERNATE RING AND CHAIN AROUND AKTATTER: THEN YOU TAT AN ADDITIONAL ROUND OF CHAINS ONLY picotsnkeys: I just realized, I'm not clear on what size thread. Any restictions? AKTATTER: AND YOU MAKE A JOIN AT THE BOTTOM OF THE RINGS AKTATTER: ANY SIZE OK BUT MATCH THE BEADS TO THE SIZE OF THE THREAD, AKTATTER: YOU CAN JOIN TO THE SPECK KOF THREAD THAT MIGHT LIE BETWEEN THE TWO CHAINS BENEATH THE RING AKTATTER: OK THIS IS A TEST picotsnkeys: k AKTATTER: WHICH THREAD DO THE BEADS GO ON? Raelara: k Raelara: the ball thread picotsnkeys: beads are on the chain, ball thread I'd guess Gretta: Pattern says ball AKTATTER: RIGHT! Jenny: The ball thread? cat2tat: ball thread AKTATTER: IS IT POSSIBLE TO CREATE THIS EFFRECET WITHOUT STRINGING THE BEADS ONTHE BALL THREAD? AKTATTER: EFFECT Jenny: Yes. Linda Davis has it on her blog Raelara: make a long picot,, string the beads on the picot, then anchor it down AKTATTER: RIGHT ON AKTATTER: DO YOU HAVE LINDA'S LINK HANDY JENNY? AKTATTER: TO ANCHOR IT DOWN YOU MAKE A JOIN Jenny from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 5 hours ago AKTATTER: ON THE FIRST SET OF CHAINS, WHAT VARIATION COULD WE MAKE? AKTATTER: B JENNY Jenny: Sorry I got lost I think itmis www.howdie.plus.com AKTATTER: http://www.howdie.plus.com AKTATTER: let's try it AKTATTER: hmm well we'll find it later AKTATTER: OK ANY SUGGESTIONS FOR VARIATIONS? picotsnkeys: I could see making more picots Jenny: http://www.howiedee.plus.com/index.htm Raelara: http://toptattyhead.blogspot.com/ AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE A BEGINNER OR A NEEDLE TATTER, BE SURE TO SNUG THE CHAINS UP TIGHTLY BEFORE YOU JOIN THEM Gretta: or throw off another small ring and make the outer chains longer AKTATTER: TH4E TENSION IS IMPORTANT ON CHAINS ESPECIALLY WHEN THEY ARE BEADED,, YOU DON'T WANT THEM TO DROOP AKTATTER: YES THERE IS ALWAYS ROOM TO ALTER THE PATTERN TOMAKE IT "YOURS" krystledawne from x.x.x.188 joined the chat 5 hours ago AKTATTER: BE SURE TO CHECK OUT LINDA'S SITES THEY ARE GREAT krystledawne: Am I too late? picotsnkeys: How about josephine stitches? AKTATTER: OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS TODAY AKTATTER: OH WELCOME KRYSTLE krystledawne: Darn, krystledawne: Missed it again AKTATTER: JOSEPHINE RINGS INSTEAD OF THE PICOTS WOULD BE A GREAT VARIATION Angela: has anyone heard of the josephine sling? AKTATTER: DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS KRYSTLE krystledawne: I just remembered about class today....lol AKTATTER: NO ANGELA WHAT IS IT? Raelara: no krystledawne: I was going to email you to ask if there are any patterns to cover a christmas ball in the archives Raelara: there are a ton of people selling pdfs of the Mary Fitch book Raelara: no other free copies, so far Angela: I am not sure. my MIL keeps asking if anyone can make one. I will have to go to her to learn how to make one. AKTATTER: YES THERE ARE. picotsnkeys: I just created a very simple one based on Jingle Bells AKTATTER: WELL IT IS IN PUBLIC DOMAIN SO THAT IS OK BUT UNFORTUNATE AKTATTER: YOU GOT A LINK PICOT? picotsnkeys: Not yet, the Museum asked that I guard it until after the class in November. Fair... krystledawne: I just got a load of satin balls from Handy Hands....need to get them all decorated for christmas picotsnkeys: I haven't taken the time to start a blog. I find I would rather tat than type LOL AKTATTER: ME TOO AND i;M BETTER AT TATTING THAN TYPING THANK GOODNESS Raelara: lol AKTATTER: i'LL LOOK FOR SME LINKS ABOUT THE BALLS AND MAKE A LIST FOR YOU Jenny: Me too cat2tat: Nancy Tracy has a pretty one at be-stiched with lots of beads AKTATTER: OK LAST CALL krystledawne: Oh thanks! Raelara: any ideas on where to find that page 6? Jenny: Can we all see the list please Raelara: I am really curious now, I want to see it krystledawne: I'd appreciate it. I'll try to come back for class tonight, but hubby will be gone so it depends on the kids picotsnkeys: I'm willing to share after Nov 15 Krystle Raelara: but I don't want to pay $20 for another pdf AKTATTER: SEND ME AN EMAIL JENNI AND I WILL SCAN IT FOR YOU krystledawne: Oh thanks krystledawne: Maybe we could do it for class? AKTATTER: GOSH NO JENNI LOOK AT THE CLASS PUBLIC DOMAIN BEFORE YOU BUTY STUFF OR EMAI LME FIRST AKTATTER: HEY THAT WOUL DBE NICE Angela: I just print one from the public domain site. AKTATTER: OK THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TODAY Raelara: I can't get anything to load from the class public domain cat2tat: Thanks Georgia! picotsnkeys: I can't either Raelara: I highlight the name of the book, click go, and nothing happens AKTATTER: S LESSON REPEATS AT 8PM FOR NEEDLE TATTING AND THE REGULAR CLASS AT 8:30PM ET (NEW YORK TINE) TONGIHT AKTATTER: ARE YOU USING THE DROP DOWN MENU? Raelara: yeah picotsnkeys: Thank you for demystifying buttons Georgia meowy: Thanks Georgia :) See everyone tonight! AKTATTER: OK LET MK LOOK INTO IT ANY TIME :0 AKTATTER: LATER ALL picotsnkeys: yes, but I get an error on page AKTATTER from x.x.x.249 left the chat 5 hours ago krystledawne: I checked and it doesn't work for me either cat2tat: Bye everyone! krystledawne: Bye! Jenny: Not me I'll be in bed tonight it will be 1am over here! Angela: I am printing the Fitch book now. Jenny: bye picotsnkeys: bye all Rosemarie: Bye picotsnkeys: I'll hang around for a bit to see if Georgia comes back Angela: I am still here picot Raelara: I'm still here too Raelara: I really want to get onto the public domain links Raelara: the antique pattern library is too hard to figure out, too much stuff Angela: I use it a lot, but some of the link do not work. picotsnkeys: I'm looking at the U of A link. Perhaps we can get to it through there Raelara: U of A?? Angela: I think I looked for that one but didn't find it. picotsnkeys: uh...my link to there no longers works. rats Angela: if you would like a copy of the Fitch book from class send me an email with your snail mail address and I will copy it for you. Raelara: There has got to be another free copy of that thing somewhere Angela: aanjel51@yahoo.com Raelara: I have the pdf G posted Raelara: But her pdf is missing a page Angela: ok Angela: page 6, I will have to see if I can find that page. Raelara: Maybe G can fix it, now that she knows Angela: that would be great I will only have to print that one page Raelara: I generally just save them Raelara: takes up less paper, and then I don't have to buy as much printer ink picotsnkeys: It's been fun to collect a copy on a disc Raelara: I agree Angela: How true on the paper and ink. Raelara: I would like to get a lot more books on disk Raelara: particularly tatting books picotsnkeys: I still have a binder for samples I tat up. Raelara: you are more organized than I am Raelara: my samples are all in an envelope somewhere Angela: I don't know of any on disc, but I am sure if you check some of the blogs you might find some Raelara: I meant I ma creating my own disc, Angela picotsnkeys: Of course, that means I have to be dilgent about notating where the pattern came from. lol Raelara: just saving stuff on my hard drive Raelara: lol Angela: I have a scrapbook with pictures and sample of thread Raelara: I have an old tatting book, it would be interesting to see it in pdf Raelara: but I am not sure how to go about it Angela: I just finished 7 pairs of baby booties and hope to have pictures of all the babies to go with the pic of the bootie picotsnkeys: how cute! Raelara: Picots: is this you? http://www.facebook.com/search/?q=Melanie Cervi&init=quick#/profile.php?id=1465485634&ref=search&sid=1481564331.2906512950..1 picotsnkeys: I have yet to venture into the land of scanners. I must though Angela: I have had a scanner almost as long as I have had the computer. picotsnkeys: probably someone else "kindly" starting a profile for me. There's a kid at school who loves to help out folks like that. Raelara: We have a scanner, I just don't know how to put the pics together in one file like G does picotsnkeys: I consider it rude, but until he learns to ask first...... Angela: I am on facebook. Raelara: lol Raelara: well, I won't bother trying to friend that profile then picotsnkeys: generally, the kids knock the profile down for me. I'll ask them to check that out for me. Thanks for asking. Raelara: welcome Raelara: I better go. It's getting too quiet in the back yard picotsnkeys: I'm on the New tatters yahoo group and the design class yahoo group and a couple of groups for music, but nothing face book......yet Raelara: That's when it is time to worry Raelara: new tatters? picotsnkeys: Good to see you again Raelara: I haven't heard of that one Raelara: you should do facebook, it is fun picotsnkeys: Cynthia's yahoo group: brasthatfit Cynthia Raelara: what is your name on facebook, Angela? Raelara: I will check it out Picots Angela: Angela Miracle Angela: here is the link http://www.facebook.com/home.php?filter=fl_1105639278917 Raelara: sent you a request Angela from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 5 hours ago Angela: ok, I will look for it Raelara: I really better go now. Raelara: ttyl Angela: bye picotsnkeys: Bye Jenni, take care picotsnkeys: Well, it looks like it's more of a puzzle for Georgia than we thought for the links picotsnkeys: an well. I've lots to think about with the buttons explained picotsnkeys: are you still here Angela? picotsnkeys: I'm off to do the taxi gig now picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 left the chat 5 hours ago marco from x.x.x.247 joined the chat 4 hours ago marco: hello marco: i think i am to late Angela from x.x.x.30 left the chat 2 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.228 joined the chat 79 minutes ago AKTATTER: Hello -lo -lo -lo what an echo -o -o -o I'm all alone waah!!!! AKTATTER: Oct. 5, 2009 evening needle tatting session AKTATTER: Earlier this afternoon I was asked for a list of Christmas Ball Tatting AKTATTER: 1. http://members.iglou.com/mantia/crafts/ornament1.html AKTATTER: 2. http://www.tatting.de/dol/xmasball_red.html AKTATTER: 3. http://digilander.libero.it/chiacchierino/news/palline.html AKTATTER: 4. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/vaw1.html AKTATTER: 5. http://www.terrythetatter.com/classic.html AKTATTER: 6. http://www.terrythetatter.com/daisy.html AKTATTER: 7. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/mcguffin2.html ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Oct 6 01:18:51 2009 GMT (75 KB) Page 2 of 2 - Char 51356 to 77805 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER: 8. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/mcgbfly.html AKTATTER: 9. http://www.freewebs.com/tattings0003/ballornaments.htm AKTATTER: 10. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/lm2balls.html AKTATTER: 11. http://www.terrythetatter.com/ww.html AKTATTER: 12. http://www.tatting.de/dol/tatpic02.html Winkerbill from x.x.x.169 joined the chat 59 minutes ago Winkerbill: hi! Sorry I'm late Winkerbill: I'm at <p, Winkerbill: Mom's house tonight. cat2tat from x.x.x.68 joined the chat 58 minutes ago Winkerbill: hi Cathy cat2tat: Hi Steph & Georgia! AKTATTER: hello all AKTATTER: you're never too late Steph AKTATTER: hello cathy Winkerbill: Had a doctor appointment at 3 this afternoon - when migraines hit DAILY it's time to visit the chiropractor and get things lined back up, I guess. AKTATTER: is there a needle tatting class before the regular class starts? AKTATTER: ouch that is true Steph cat2tat: Hope he was able to help Winkerbill: it was such a crummy day today - wet, cloudy, dark, chilly....felt so much better when I walked out of there that I caught myself talking to myself....saying "what a gorgeous day" and MEANING it! Winkerbill: I thought I was late for class....guess I was late to the needle ttating class and early to the shuttle class. cat2tat: That's great! Sandy from x.x.x.59 joined the chat 53 minutes ago Winkerbill: I'll listen to anything you want to teach us about needle tatting, but all I have at Mom's house are my shuttles....a handful of them.... Winkerbill: :-) cat2tat: Georgia, I need to rephrase my earlier question. Is there one book that tells how to do split rings, split chains, and other specialty things for needle? Winkerbill: Oh, and good news - one of the bank tellers wants to learn to tat (I was tatting at hte drive-through window recently) so I have her planning to come on Saturday to our guild meeting....Mary and/or I can teach her....hopefully get her "addicted" Winkerbill: brb - been petting the dog, got to wash my hands before I start playing iwth thread and shuttles.... Sherong from x.x.x.24 joined the chat 51 minutes ago Sandy: Hello Everyone AKTATTER: welcome Sandy just posted today by Teri D http://teritatbitdusenbury.blogspot.com/2009/10/tatting-tatbits-tatted-chained-flower.html Sherong: Hi all cat2tat: how cute! Sherong: Re needle tatting I would check out the tutorials Roger has on the ProBoards site. Winkerbill: I"m back! Hi SHeron! AKTATTER: hello Sheron everyone please go check our Teri's page oh my good ness ! she has been busy AKTATTER: open chat continues 10 minutes cat2tat: What is the ProBoards site? Sherong: <http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi> is Rogers group cat2tat: ok thanks Sherong: Had to find the URL. Sherong: Sorry, the > got caught.. Try http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi AKTATTER: ah that is the new link!! I did not have it! Sherong: Yes, that's where he moved when MSN closed AKTATTER: thanks so much AKTATTER: are you all seeing Teri's page yet? AKTATTER: check out the right hand side Sherong: As far as I can tell he moved all the stuff Wally from x.x.x.221 joined the chat 43 minutes ago Wally: Hello! Winkerbill: gorgeous! (And she's right - raccoons are awfully destructive....) Winkerbill: Hi Wally! AKTATTER: scroll past raccoon and cat paragraphs the next tatted motif with the beads AKTATTER: welcome wally AKTATTER: yes a last was attacked by raccoons today it was on tv Winkerbill: oh, i saw that one too....so pretty! AKTATTER: and the blue square half wasy down the page on the right wow AKTATTER: we are lookiong at Teri D's page http://teritatbitdusenbury.blogspot.com/2009/10/tatting-tatbits-tatted-chained-flower.html Wally: She's dpoing amazing beadded tatting! cat2tat: Very pretty! cat2tat: Hi Wally! AKTATTER: and the turle almost at the bottom of the page Wally: Hi! Wally: I'm trying to make the turtle. I got at last some beads of that size AKTATTER: an d that familiar pattern of the cross and 8-pt medallion done in peach ohhhh Winkerbill: the medallion - is that the one at the bottom of the page? That's amazing....so pretty.... Wally: Got some greish green red-brown jasper that will be perfect for the turtle AKTATTER: ok let's get started AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA Winkerbill: Stephanie W in wet, foggy western North Carolina USA Wally: I want to make this one http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_zBbk_xJWLJE/Spro6bVvewI/AAAAAAAAcME/40722DwwtVU/s320/tatbit-butterfly-drop-earring-4a.gif Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, columbia, sc AKTATTER: EARLIER TODAY I WAS ASKED FOR A LIST OF TATTING PATTERN FOR CHRISTMAS BALL COVERS. Wally: Wally Sosa needledreams@yahoo.com PR cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA AKTATTER: 12 LINKS ARE GIVEN ABOVE IN THE NOTES WHICH WILL BE POSTED AFTER CLASS. Winkerbill: that's a pretty one, too, Wally.... AKTATTER: THAT IS A GREAT COLOR COMBO TOO AKTATTER: OK FIRST http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2010/quilt/adoptablock.html AKTATTER: OUR SCHOLARSHIP FUND RAISER FOR THE NEXT TAT DAYS AKTATTER: THESE BLOCKS NEEDE TO BE ADOPTED. Sandy: Sandy C, Bremerton, WA USA AKTATTER: OVER SEAS TATTERS MAY SELECT A BLOCK AND TAT THE TRIMS. PRINT OFF A COPY OF THE BLOCK AND TAPE YOUR TRIMS TO IT AND MAIL TO ME BY JUNE 1, 2010 ANDI WILL SEW THEM DOWN Wally: I w2ant the very last one AKTATTER: THIS IS TO SAVE $ ON POSTAGE. US TATTERS MAY HAVE THE BLOCK MAILED TO THEM AKTATTER: THE BLOCKS ARE NUMBERED SO SELECT ONE AND THEN EMAIL ME PLEASE. AKTATTER: I HAVE 9 ONE TO POST ALSO cat2tat: I got one at Tat Days AKTATTER: 9 MORE AKTATTER: OK NOW IF YOU HAVE PRINTED OFF YOUR COPY OF THE MARY FITCH BOOK PLEASE REFER TO IT Wally: i want #95 AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/MaryFitch6.pdf Winkerbill: I got one too....still looking at it....gazing....waiting for just the right idea.... AKTATTER: PLEASE EMAIL ME WALLY SO I DON'T FORGET AKTATTER: IF YOUR COPY IS MISSING PG 6 Wally: okis Winkerbill: I'm at Mom's house....will need to catch up....need to download the obok here. cat2tat: I tried that site but still didn't find page 6 AKTATTER: IT IS POSTED NOW AT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/maryfitch/MaryFitchTatting6pg6.jpg AKTATTER: in the book pg 6 has fig 14 which is a familar flower pattern used in many old books AKTATTER: which would be great on a block Wally: oh, that flower on p.y6 is so pretty Wally: caps G please AKTATTER: aLSO FIG 15 IS A SERIES OF UNJOINED RINGS AKTATTER: AND PN PG 17 FIG 39 A COLLAR AKTATTER: SHOWS CURVES UNJOINED RINGS THAT LOOK LIKE WHEAT SHEAVES AKTATTER: BELOW IT IS FIG 41 WHICH SHOWS THE UNJOINED RINGS JUST TATTED IN A ROW AKTATTER: AND YOU CURVE THEM WHEN YOU SEW THEM DOWN EASY AS CAN BE! AKTATTER: ALSO ON PG 17 IS FIG 42 WHICH IS THE PATTERN FOR THE EDGDING ON THE COVER Wally: very pretty AKTATTER: THAT IS A SERIES OF CLOVERLEAVES AKTATTER: AND IT SUSBTITUTED A STRING OF UNJOINED HALF CLOSED RINGS AKTATTER: OR JOSEPHINE RINGS FOR THE CHAIN AKTATTER: I THINK THAT IS A NEAT ALTERNATIVE TO A CHAIN AKTATTER: AND WE WELCOME ANY PATTERNS OR SUGGESTIONS TO SHARE FOR DECORATING THE BLOCKS AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS? Winkerbill: not yet....got one for Wally later.... :-) AKTATTER: WELL THEN WALLY YOU'RE UP! Wally: for me? AKTATTER: wOULD YOU LIKE TO SHARE ANYTHING ABOUT LYDIE BUG? Winkerbill: well....I don't have any butons around....is there a way to do your motif wihtout a button? Wally: Ah, my pattern is the class today? lol I'm totally off! AKTATTER: LOL OK LET ME GET IT GOING THEN Wally: Lydie-Bug is the granddaughter of Janet Perkins AKTATTER: YES STEPH AKTATTER: YOU CAN SIMPLY MAKE LONG PICOTS AND JOIN THEM ACROSS THE OPEN SPACE I NTHE MOTIF Wally: SHE'S A TATTER AND THE BABY HAS A CEREBRAL TUMOR Sherong: Caps please wally Winkerbill: Gary told me to drill 4 holes in a quarter. .....honestly....men....! AKTATTER: TKS AH I AM SO SORRY TO HEAR THAT Wally: JANET AN ME TALK DAILY AND SHE GIVES ME REPORT OF LYDIE AKTATTER: HEY I THINK IT IS A GOOD IDEA STEPH AKTATTER: WELL IT WAS LOVELY OF YOU TO MAKE A ORNAMENT JUST FOR HER Wally: LYDIE IS A ARRIOR AND SHE INSPIRED ME FOR THIS DESIGN AKTATTER: THE VERY FIRST RING OF THE PATTERN WALLY HAS A LONG PICOT ON IT Wally: *WARRIOR AKTATTER: AND THIS IS WHAT YOU DRAW UP THRU THE HOLE OF THE BUTTON ACROSS AND Wally: DO YOU HAVE THE PATTERN ONLINE? AKTATTER: DOWN THE OPPOSITE HOLE AKTATTER: YOU CAN PUT A PIN IN IT NOW AND THEN SNUG IT UP AKTATTER: THE PIN KEEPS IT FROM BEING POST AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/wallysosalydiebugornament.pdf AKTATTER: LOST Winkerbill: so I could make a somewhat shorter 'long" picot and just join to the other side when I get there? ok. AKTATTER: THE THIRD RING ALSO HAS THE LONG PICOT Wally: THANKS. AKTATTER: RIGHT IF YOU ARE BUTTON LESS AKTATTER: SO THE PATTERN IS A RING AND CHAIN REPEAT Wally: YES, I LIKE TO JOIN TO THE BUTTONS IS THIS WAY BECAUSE IF THE BUTTONS IS A DECORATIVE ONE I LIKE TO SHOW THE BUTTON AKTATTER: WITH THE RING JOINED TIGHTLY AKTATTER: IN FACT THE RINGS ALMOST MAKE A "SQUARE" BACKGROUND Wally: IF YOU DON'T HAVE BUTTON FOR THE CENTER, JUST MAKE REGULAR PICOTS INSTEAD AKTATTER: OK cat2tat: Are the rings that join on the button supposed to show completely or hide under button some? Winkerbill: ok! AKTATTER: SO WHEN THE PATTERN COMES AROUND TO THE OTHER SIDE YOU MAKE THE TWO JOINS TO THE LONG PICOTS Wally: THE LONG PICOTS SERVE TO JOIN TO THE BUTTON Wally: ALSO IF YOU USE A CABONE RING YOU CAN JOIN ALL THE RINGS TO THE CABONE AKTATTER: OH NEAT ALTERNATIVE Winkerbill: hmmmm....I bet you could make a small center, maybe using a smaller thread size....and join to THAT, too. AKTATTER: AND WHAT ABOUT THOSE FAUX GEMS WITH THE TWO HOLES IN THEM? BET IT WOULD WORK! Wally: OR IF YOU WANT IT "SQUARINSH" LIKE IN THE PHOTO, THEN JOIN ONE, SKIP ONE TO THE CABONE Wally: YES, I HAVE DONE IT ON 2-HOLES BUTTONS. AKTATTER: GOOD Winkerbill: anybody know if those cabone rings are "wash and wear" - can I put htem in the dryer if I sew them on a shirt or somethign? Wally: JOIN TWICE TO EACH HOLE BUT WHEN JOINING TRY THAT THE JOIN IS LOOSE SO IT MOVES A LITTLE TO GIVE THE FORM Winkerbill: uh - oh, got to go. I'll look up the log tomorrow when I get home. Winkerbill: Night everyoen! Winkerbill from x.x.x.169 left the chat 17 minutes ago AKTATTER: BYE STEPH Wally: i HAVE NEVER PUT RINGS ON THE DRYER... AKTATTER: YES THEY AER VERY STURDY NYLON AKTATTER: NOT JUST PLASTIC HARDER MATERIAL Wally: GOOD TO KNOW AKTATTER: THEY ARE OFTEN SEWN INTO OLD FASHIONED CAFE CURT\AINS AKTATTER: ADN THEN YOU ADDED ANOTHER ROWS OF CHAINS WITH BEADS ALSO WALLY AKTATTER: OH IFORGOT TO ASK IS ANYONE NEW TONIGHT? Wally: YES. JUST CLIMBING WITH A CHAIN. AKTATTER: AND YOU MADE SHUTTLE LOCK JOINS TO THE THREAD BETWEEN THE TWO CHAINS AT THE BASE OF THE RING Wally: HERE THE "GAPSOSIS" IS GOOD BETWEERN RINGS. AKTATTER: REMEMBER IF YOU ARE WOKRING THIS PATTERN ON NEEDLES TO KEEP GOOD TENSION Wally: MAKES JOINING VERY EASY AKTATTER: AN EXCEPTION TO THE RULE! AKTATTER: LOSSE TENSION WILL CAUSE THE CHAINS TO DROOP ESP IF THERE ARE BEADS cat2tat: I don't understand Ring 5 - how to do behind and front and behind again? AKTATTER: THESE WAS A VERY NICE BASIC PATTERN WITH A NEW TWIST TO IT, ER.... I GUESS YOU COULD SAY IT WAS A "BUTTON HOLE TWIST" Wally: ALSO THE LONG PICOTS THAT JOIN TO THE BUTTON CAN BE BEADED AND THEY LOOK PRETTIER AKTATTER: UP THRU THE HOLE ACROSS THE BUTTON DOWN THRU THE OPPOSITE HOLE AKTATTER: THAT WOULD EXTRA BLING! AKTATTER: GOT IT CATHY? cat2tat: Not sure. AKTATTER: BUTTONS USUALLY HAVE A FRONT AND A BACK SIDE Wally: PUT A HOOK THRU THE BUTTON AND TAKE THE LP TO THE FRONT OF THE BUTTON AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE THIS ONE HAS A DEPRESSION ONTHE FRONT SIDE Wally: THEN INSERT THE HOOK THRU THE BACK AND TAKE THE LP TO THE BACK OF THE BUTTON AKTATTER: SO THE BUTTON FRON FACES YOU AKTATTER: BRING THE PICOT THREAD TO THE BACK OF THE BUTTON, UP THRU THE HOLE TO THE FRONT SIDE OF THE BUTTON AKTATTER: ARCOSS THE FRONT SIDE TO THE OPPOSITE HOLE AKTATTER: THEN DOWN THE HOLE TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE BUTTON AKTATTER: RATHER LIKE YOU WERE SEWING THE BUTTON DOWN AKTATTER: SANDY ANY QUESTIONS TONIGHT? cat2tat: OK, I think I understand now. Thanks! AKTATTER: GREAT AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING YOUR WORK WITH US WALLY Wally: YES, THAT'S THE EFFECT OF THE JOINING Sandy: No questions yet! Thanks! AKTATTER: GREAT! AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TONIGHT? SHORT LESSON AKTATTER: WALLY DO YOU HAVE A BOOK WITH BUTTON TATTING FOR SALE? Wally: YOU'RE WELCOME. JSUT REMEMBER TO KEEP LYDIE-BUG IN THE PRAYERS. :-) AKTATTER: THAT i WILL SURELY DO Wally: NO BOOK, BUT i'M DOING A NEWSLETTER THAT WILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH BUTTONS, BEADS AND SEQUINS cat2tat: We certainly will. Thanks for sharing it. I'm looking forward to finishing it! AKTATTER: THAT IS GREAT i WILL LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT AKTATTER: OK THEN THAT'S ALL FOR TONIGHT Wally: I'M MAKING IT IN SPANISH BUT SOON WILL DO IT IN ENGLISH. AKTATTER: MANY THANKS FOR STOPPING BY Sandy: Is the newsletter new? I've been looking for one. Wally: IT'S A NEWSLETTER WITH ORIGINAL PATTERNS. AROUND 5-6 PER ISSUE AKTATTER: I'LL BE INTHE BEGINNING TATTING CLASS THIS tHURS OCT. 8 AT 3 AND 9 PM ET (NEW YORK TIME0 ALL ARE WELCOME TO STOP BY AND ENCOURAGE THE BEGINNERS Sandy: Thank you! Bye all. AKTATTER: YSE YOU MUST LET US SIGN UP FOR IT WHEN YOU ARE REASY WALLY Sandy: Oh! I'm interested when you are ready! AKTATTER: THANKS AGAIN WALLY GOOD NIGHT ALL AND HAPPY TATTING Wally: I'LL MAKE THE ANNOUNCEMENT SOON. :-) cat2tat: Me too AKTATTER from x.x.x.228 left the chat 6 minutes ago Wally: G' NIGHT! Sandy: Thanks. Night all cat2tat: Good night everyone! Sherong: Nite all ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com