The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Thu Jun 25 03:11:00 2009 GMT (120 KB) Page 1 of 3 - Char 1 to 51233 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 cleared the room 2 days ago GreenFuzzer from x.x.x.234 joined the chat 25 hours ago Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 18 hours ago Cynthia from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 11 hours ago Cynthia: I'll be back...it looks like I'm early.... AnitaL76 from x.x.x.128 joined the chat 11 hours ago Marie Smith from x.x.x.95 joined the chat 11 hours ago Marie Smith: Hi Cynthia and Anita AnitaL76: Hi Marie how are you? Marie Smith: I am fine, and you? Marie Smith: I don't know what we are doing today. So I am tatting :-) Cynthia: Hi I'm back I was trying to print out the pattern and the only part I can get is the entire book... Marie Smith: Are we doing the first edging? Cynthia: in German...and I can decipher part of it... Cynthia: I'm not sure. brb,,, AnitaL76: I am not sure myself..... things got a bit crazy here and I lost track other than knowing there was a class because of G's email yesterday Cynthia: I found the info on Georia's site but it the link is "not found...error 404 AnitaL76: I got that the first time too. link worked just now though Cynthia: With my german to french to english dictionary I think I can figure it out...at least enough with the pics to make new copies of the pattern Cynthia: I'll try it again MJB from x.x.x.139 joined the chat 11 hours ago Marie Smith: Hi Mary Jane picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 joined the chat 11 hours ago MJB: Hello everybody picotsnkeys: Hi everyone MJB: It is hot in Indiana MJB: Hello Marie Marie Smith: Hi Melanie picotsnkeys: It's supposed to get into the 80's F here today. whew MJB: Hello Melanie Marie Smith: Hot here, too, in SC Marie Smith: (0's here MJB: probably 95 Marie Smith: 90's here MJB: I finished mowing the yard early., takes me 3 hours to mow picotsnkeys: We took out our yard. Wheeee Marie Smith: Pushing or riding? MJB: riding MJB: I would never get it done if I had to Push Marie Smith: Wow, a big yard picotsnkeys: Our yards in our neighborhood are much smaller. Marie Smith: With what did you replace it, Melanie? MJB: looks nice when finished picotsnkeys: Planting beds on a Mediterranian theme. Lots of rosemary and tthyme and lavendar Marie Smith: Oh, I like that! picotsnkeys: And drip irrigation :) Marie Smith: Lavendar is my favorite! picotsnkeys: Leaves more time to tat! MJB: do you use the spices? Marie Smith: We all need more time to tat picotsnkeys: Hubby loves to do sauces for pasta using the garden MJB: that is true picotsnkeys: Gives new meaning to going grocery shopping! MJB: good for him Marie Smith: Ah, a husband that cooks! Wish mine did AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 11 hours ago Marie Smith: Hi Georgia! picotsnkeys: Hi Georgia MJB: Hey AK picotsnkeys: I've had great fun looking at the book MJB: are you ready for California? Wish I could go., but not this year., AnitaL76: Hi Georgia :) Cynthia from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 11 hours ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 11 hours ago Marie Smith: Georgia what is the url for the book? AKTATTER: hello all! MJB: Hello Anital and Cynthia Linda-S from x.x.x.7 joined the chat 11 hours ago Linda-S: Hi!! Cynthia: Hi sorry my computer hiccupped...I'm now back AnitaL76: Hi MJB AKTATTER: Welcome one and all AnitaL76: wb Cynthia :) Cynthia: Thanks Georgia for the link ...I'm printing it now AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/NeueSchiffchenspitzen.pdf AKTATTER: it is a long download AKTATTER: Neue Schiffchenspitzen also has 2 pages attached at the end which do not belong to the book I think AKTATTER: First off Ihope that you all have seen Andréa's photo! MJB: Georgia., I couldn't get the paperclip Marie Smith: Yes, long, especially on my computer :-) AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/amecheanchorage.jpg Cynthia: The pics are awesome!! MJB: very good., AKTATTER: which one maryjane? AKTATTER: steph or ellen AKTATTER: that was so nice of her to do for us! MJB: fireworks paper clip AKTATTER: and those forget me nots made me tad bit homesick! MJB: I bet AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ellenpclipfireworks.pdf Marie Smith: I loved Andréa's photos. And I love forget-me-nots! AKTATTER: i just printed my copy a little earlier Dantatter from x.x.x.5 joined the chat 11 hours ago Dantatter: Hello AKTATTER: SUMMER SPECIAL EVENT JUNE 24, 2009 NOON SESSION Marie Smith: Hi Susanne! AKTATTER: HIYA SUZANNE MJB: thank You., printing it now AKTATTER: TATTING BY THE LIGHT OF THE MIDNIGHT SUN! AKTATTER: SUMMER IS HOT AND NASTY FOR MANY PARTS OF THE WORLD BUT NICE AND WINTRY COLD FOR OTHERS. AKTATTER: WHICH EVER YOU HAVE TODAY LET'S CELEBRATE SUMMER WITH FIREWORKS Marie Smith: I ran out of black ink last and I cannot change pdf's to another color :-( AKTATTER: LET'S GET STARTED AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP IL AKTATTER@AOL.COM MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus., Indiana USA Marie Smith: Marie Smith Anderson SC tattingwithmarie at yahoo Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com AnitaL76: Anita Lausch, London Ontario, ChristadelphianSister@gmail.com AKTATTER: MARIE IF YOU REMOVE THE BLACK CARTRIDGE IT WILL OFTEN PRINT FROM THE COLOR ONE MAKING A MUDDY BLACK IN THE PRINT BUT LEGIBLE picotsnkeys: Melanie Cervi aka picotsnkeys, Los Gatos, California, USA picotsnkeys @ yahoo.com Dantatter: Susanne in Aarhus-Denmark aka Dantatter@gmail.com Marie Smith: Ah, thanks Georgia! AKTATTER: I SEE THAT SEVERAL OF YOU HERE TODAY CONTRIBUTED POPPIES FOR THE 2009 IOLI CONVENTION Linda-S: Linda Harrington, l_m_harrington@yahoo.com, Largo, MD AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/IOLIthankyouletter.jpg AKTATTER: Julia from the committee sent a thank you for everyone MJB: That was nice of Julie Marie Smith: Hi Linda Linda-S: Hi MJB: I will have to have Dorcas bring me one home AKTATTER: let's start with ELLEN LAI'S PAPERCLIP OF THE MONTH POSTED EARLIER FOR OUR SPECIAL EVENT AKTATTER: I WAS SURPRISED TO SEE THE STARTS ON THE PAPERCLIP AKTATTER: THAT WAS REALY NEAT AKTATTER: SO THIS PROJECT USES WIRE AND STAR SEQUINS AKTATTER: THE BEST WAY TO COVER THE WIRE IMHO AKTATTER: IS TO WRAP THE DS NOT TAT Marie Smith: The link on the class index page does not work AKTATTER: FOR A LRAGER PROJECT YOU CAN OF COURSE WIND WIRE ONTO THE SHUTTLE AND TAT NORMALLY AKTATTER: WHICH LINK? Marie Smith: The one for Ellen's clip AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ellenpclipfireworks.pdf Marie Smith: This one works, but not the one on the index page picotsnkeys: Have you covered tatting with wire in a previous class? Or are there links to other tutorials? AKTATTER: SO RUN THE TIP OF THE WIRE THRU THE HOLE OF THE SEQUIN AND FOLD OVER AKTATTER: YES WE DO HAVE A COUPLE OF LESSONS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.htm AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/wire/wirering.html AKTATTER: MARK'S ROSE http://members.fortunecity.com/tatman1/eyecandy/wirerose.html MIGHT NOT BE SHOWING NOW SINCE HER CHANGED SERVERS AKTATTER: WHERE TO GET WIRE FOR TATTING http://www.artisticwire.com/art13.htm AKTATTER: http://www.domesticarts.com/LaceClass/Classtat.html AKTATTER: THAT'S ALL i REMEMBER OFF THE TOP OF MY HEAD Karen from x.x.x.218 joined the chat 10 hours ago AKTATTER: WELCOME KAREN Karen: Hey, all. picotsnkeys: thank you. I'll try to explore them later. So much to learn! AKTATTER: NOW YOU HAVE A TAIL OF THE THREAD TO COVER AKTATTER: AND SO LITTLE TIME, TOO! MRB_ND from x.x.x.250 joined the chat 10 hours ago Cynthia: we need at least 36 hr days to tat and do everything else...lol MRB_ND: Hi All AKTATTER: I MAKE A SHOELACE TIE WITH THE THREAD THEN HOLD THE SHORT TAIL NEXT TOT HE WIRE AKTATTER: YPE MORE MIDNIGHT SUN NEEDED! Marie Smith: Hi Karen and MRB AKTATTER: THEN WRAP THE DS ONTO THE WIRE AS IF YOU WERE WRAPPING THE BOTTOM HALF OF A SPLIT RING picotsnkeys: brb AKTATTER: WELCOMEMRB AnitaL76: girl if you only need 36 hours a day you are doing better than I am lol AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN NAME AND HOMETOWN AKTATTER: LOL AKTATTER: WRAP THE LENGTH YOU NEED THEN WRAP WIRE AROUND THE PAPER CLIP AKTATTER: HERE IS THE PATTERN WE ARE DISCUSSING http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ellenpclipfireworks.pdf Cynthia: 48-72 would be better I agree Anita MRB_ND: Mary Baumler MRB_ND , Fargo ND USA AnitaL76: :) AKTATTER: IF YOU CLICK ON THE LINK IT WILL OPEN IN A NEW WINDOW FOR YOU TO VIEW OR PRINT IT OFF Marie Smith: I found some Artistic Wire, I think it was Michaels AKTATTER: THEN WARP SOME MORE CHAIN Winkerbill from x.x.x.45 joined the chat 10 hours ago AKTATTER: PUT THE END OF THE WIRE THRU THE HOLE OF THE SEQUIN AND DOUBLE BACK Winkerbill: sorry I'm late.... Cynthia: Hi Steph... AKTATTER: LAY IN A HELPING LOOP FOR THE LAST TWO OF THREE WRAPPED DS Winkerbill: phone guy chose 20 minutes ago to come do his "thing" here. grrrr Marie Smith: Hi Steph! AKTATTER: SNIPTHE TAIL AND INSERT INTO THE HELPING LOOP Karen: brb-gonna go rummage in my jewelry kit for wire! AKTATTER: AND PULL THE TAIL INTO THE CHAIN AND TRIM AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON HOW TO DO THIS? Marie Smith: No. AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO ELLEN LAI FOR HER CONTINUING WORK ON THE PAPER CLIP DECORATION OF THE MONTH Dantatter: Nope Marie Smith: Ellen has the cutest ideas! Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 10 hours ago AKTATTER: OK LET'S COVER STEPHANIE WILSON'S TWO PAPER CLIPS NEXT picotsnkeys: I'm sure I'll have some in about 4 weeks, so I'll try to get them into an email AKTATTER: YES SHE DOES!!! AKTATTER: RIET! HOW LOVELY TO SEE YOU HERE TODAY WELCOME Riet de B-engel: Sorry I am late had to shop Karen: Found it! No, it makes sense to me. Marie Smith: Hey, Reit! Winkerbill: sorry again....didn't get things scanned....but I got a sample of each done, does that count? <silly grin> Riet de B-engel: Hi georgia Hi marie AKTATTER: STEPH FORGOT TO SEND SCANS OF HER MODELS SO IF ONE OFYOU SENDS IIN SOME HOMEWORK I WILL ADD IT TO THIS PAGE AKTATTER: HEY STEPH! Winkerbill: hi Georgia. What a ....week it's been...8 or 9 weeks, really. :-) AKTATTER: THE FIRST PATTERN HAS A LITTLE FLOWER ATTACHED TO THE PAPERCLIP Cynthia: Hi Riet... Riet de B-engel: Hi Chinthia AKTATTER: I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE LOTS ON YOUR HANDS RIGHT NOW AND WE ALL WISH YOU THE BEST WITH MOM AND DAD Cynthia: Steph I hope your Mom is doing better,,, Marie Smith: Steph, we want to see them! AKTATTER: THIS FLOWER PATTERN IS A REPEATING RING AND CHAIN PATTERN Cynthia: and Dad too AKTATTER: THE BIG DIFFERENCE IS THAT EACH RING JOINS TO JUST ONE PICOT Dantatter: Is there a link, please? AKTATTER: HOW LARGE OR HOW SMALL YOU MAKE THISPICOT ALTERS THE LOOK OF THE FLOWER AKTATTER: A TIGHT CENTER WANTED, MAKE PICOT SMALL AKTATTER: A LARGER CENTER WANTED, MAKE PICOT LARGE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/steph2pclips.html MJB: what flower are you talking about AKTATTER: THE FLOWER CLIP ON STEPH'S PAGE AKTATTER: THE FIRST RING 4 LARGE PICOT 4 CLOSE RING AND RW AKTATTER: THE CHAINS ARE ALL 7 PICOT 7 AKTATTER: RINGS DO NOT JOIN AT THE SIDES, ONLY JOINED TO THE ONE PICOT Winkerbill: or you can make 1 big picot in the first ring and join the other 5 rings to it., which changes the look of the center a bit, too. Marie Smith: OK! Neat Steph! AKTATTER: CHAIN 5 JOINS TWICE TO THE PAPER CLIP Dantatter: Cute MRB_ND: I can't wait to try them - they look great! AKTATTER: IF YOU USE HELPING LOOPS IN THE FIRST RING AND CHAIN AKTATTER: YOU CAN HIDE THE TAIL EASILY Winkerbill: oops, I meant make 2 picots in a row on each ring and join around that way.... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/rodgers/carnation.html Winkerbill: my brother (a math teacher) wanted little bookmarks to give each of his students at the end of school....I had about 1 1/2 or 2 weeks " Winkerbill: "warning" AKTATTER: WELL YOU CAN CERTAINLY CHANGE THAT EASILY Winkerbill: and no patterns at Mom's house....just thread, shuttles, and paper clips. AKTATTER: OH MY HOW MANY KIDS WAS THAT! Winkerbill: he only wanted them for the girls, so it was only about 30 AKTATTER: http://www.geocities.com/yarnplayer/Magic_thread.html Winkerbill: I did 15 of each kind. AKTATTER: WHEW! AKTATTER: NOW A COUPLE OF VARIATIONS FOR THE FLOWER Dantatter: LOL Steph Winkerbill: But I was sort of in the middle of making "bookworms" for the library at the time.... AKTATTER: PLACE 6 SEED BEADS ON THE BIG PICOT Winkerbill: so it was a challenge to get it all done. AKTATTER: JOIN THE RINGS BETWEEN THE BEADS AKTATTER: IF YOU MAKE THE BIG PICOT SMALLER, MAKE THE FIRST RING AN SCMR MRB_ND: The "bookworms" sound interesting what pattern did you use? AKTATTER: PLACE MULTIPLE BEADS ON THE THROWN OFF RING Winkerbill: an edging from one of the reprints of thread company pattern books. AKTATTER: JOIN RANDOMLY BETWEEN THE MANY BEADS TO GET A RAISED CENTER LOOK AKTATTER: AND YOU MIGHT TRY A BUTTON WITH A SHANK ON IT Cynthia: all sorts of neat options. AKTATTER: THIS ILL COMPLETELY FILL THE CENTER picotsnkeys: what size bead for size 20 thread is recommended MRB_ND: Can you send us a picture? Riet de B-engel: what is a buton with a shank please AKTATTER: THE PICOT GOES THROUGH THE SHANK OF THE BUTTON AND JOINS TO RING 4 TIGHLY Winkerbill: no camera...no technology at Mom's house....and they're all "gone" to the library....sorry. AKTATTER: RIET SOME BUTTONS HAVE 2 OR 4 HOLES TO SEW THEM DOWN MRB_ND: ok AKTATTER: SOME HAVE A POST IN THE BACK WITH A HOLE TO SEW THRU, THAT IS A SHANK BUTTON AKTATTER: ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS? Cynthia: like on a coat...top is raised...with a stem and a hole to sew thru... Riet de B-engel: Thank you understand it now Marie Smith: I do a variation of Abby Hegwald's bookworm. I do it with only split rings AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS? Jon from x.x.x.41 joined the chat 10 hours ago Cynthia: Georgia types faster than I do.... AKTATTER: WELCOME JON Riet de B-engel: Hi Jon Karen: Georgia types faster than I tat! :) MRB_ND: What about a sequin? AKTATTER: YES CYNTHIA I DO BUT I HAVE MORE TYPOES TOO I JUST DON'T WOORY ABOUT THEM LOL Marie Smith: Abby connected chains to the paper clip. I just join with the 1st side of the split ring Karen: But no, no questions. I think I understand. Winkerbill: The edging was all chain....kept changing directions....and the picots made me think "if I made them longer it would look like a wooly worm"....which started it AKTATTER: SURE A SEQUIN WOULD WORK AKTATTER: OK THE BUTTERFLY PAPERCLIP IS NEXT SAME PAGE AKTATTER: NOTE THAT THERE ARE 4 SIZES OF PICOTS USED HERE AKTATTER: A REGULAR SIZE, MEDIUM SIZE AND A LARGE SIZE PICOT Dantatter: Gauges are needed then, lol AKTATTER: AND THEN WE ALSO HAVE TEH VSP VERY SMALL PICOT WHICH IS USED JUST FOR JOINING PURPOSES Riet de B-engel: I understand that you sighned in Riet Surtel-Smeulders from Tilburg , Netherlands Surtel-Smeulde@kpnplanet.nl Winkerbill: you can make them all the same size if you like....except for the joining ones, which need to be small Cynthia: or a good eye for length on the picots? AKTATTER: LEAVE A LIVE LOG TAIL WHEN YOU START SO YOU CAN HAVE WIGGLY ANTENNAE AFTERWARDS AKTATTER: TAK RIET Winkerbill: oops, forgot to sign in.... Stephanie W from western North Carolina.... AKTATTER: ALL ONE SHUTTLE WORK 4 RINGS JOINED TOGETHER Karen: Karen, Franklin VA AKTATTER: MY DRAWING OF THE JOINS TO THE PAPERCLIP MAKE IT LOOK LIKE AKTATTER: THERE IS A LOT OF ROOM THERE TO FLOP AROUND, BUT YOU MAKE THE JOIN TIGHT TOT HE CLIP AKTATTER: TIE THE TAILS TOGETHER WHEN DONE AND PUT KNOTS IN THE ENDS FOR ANTENNAE AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS? picotsnkeys: I can see possibilities for beads again AKTATTER: ALWAYS A GOOD PLACE AND PARTICULARLY NICE FOR BEADS ON THE CORE THREAD Marie Smith: May I do these for the State Fair, Steph give-aways?? Riet de B-engel: Marie, those paperclip bookmarks is that something to do for the fair of the palmetto's stand Winkerbill: sure Riet de B-engel: I have to pay my contrebution Marie Smith: Same idea at the same time Riet Winkerbill: they're quick to make Dantatter: Riet, are you going there again this year ? MRB_ND: They are also so useful? Riet de B-engel: Yes we have a saying overhere but I think I caan't say it Winkerbill: I've discovered Mom uses the paperclip bookmarks more than she uses the bigger "nice" tatted ones. AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 10 hours ago Marie Smith: WB Georgia? Riet de B-engel: Yes I have booked arive on the 5th of September and go home after the fair AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS PAGE Dantatter: I am doing a bunch of bookmarks for workmates right now AKTATTER: THERE IS AN EXAMPLE OF A BUTTERFLYWITH BEADS ON TEH CORE THREAD MRB_ND: Does anyone know of a 1 page or so explanation of tatting and it's history that's accurate? Winkerbill: ummm...which page? AKTATTER: AND YOU COULD APPLY THE WRAPPING TECHNIQUE TO THE ENTIRE PAPERCLIP, TOO AKTATTER: http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/ Dantatter: There are no accurate history really MRB_ND: The other thing you can use is paperclips that are covered in plastic - they are so colorful? AKTATTER: IF YOU WILL LOOK AT DAN'S PAGES THERE ARE SEVERAL HISTORY PAGES LINKED ON THE LEFT Riet de B-engel: only 1 page??????? AKTATTER: LOL YOU ARE RIGHT RIET! Riet de B-engel: I don't see the butterfly with beads Cynthia: it could be an encyclopedia...easily AKTATTER: AND LOOK HERE TOO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/joy/joyhistory.html MRB_ND: Yes, I want something to send with some of the pieces of tatting I give - just enough to peak their interest - they can always look up more. Marie Smith: Where is butterfly with beads on core thread? AKTATTER: AT THE BOTTOMK OF THE BEAD PAGE Riet de B-engel: And they are still fighting what is right and what is wrong AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasics.html MRB_ND: Just specifing that no one knows the history is better than telling a lie. AKTATTER: I FORGET THAT THE LINK DOES NOT GO THRU WHEN TYPED IN CAPS SORRY Marie Smith: Ah, butterfly by Nina? MRB_ND: Thanks for the suggestions! Cynthia: that's ok AK we all have our days...lol...me more than others AKTATTER: NANCY FROM BESTITCHED.COM SENT PART 3 OF THE DOILY TODAY AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/pattern0906doily3.asp AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/pattern0904doily2.asp Riet de B-engel from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 10 hours ago AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/pattern0902doily1.asp AKTATTER: BE SURE TO SIGN UP FOR THE MONTHLY PATTERN AND NEWSLETTER MJB: I have the first doily done Cynthia: the first part works well with some added beads... AKTATTER: THE BEGINNERS SPECIAL EVENT LAST WEEK USED A PATTERN OF NANCY'S ALSO AKTATTER: http:/www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/mimi/Nancy.pdf AKTATTER: THIS WAS THEIR VERSION http:/www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/mimi/sun.pdf picotsnkeys: it was fun! Marie Smith: I like the recipes that come with Nancy's newsletter, too! AKTATTER: OTHER BIG NEWS SHARED BY SPOILED TO TAT Cynthia: that one actually...first part only with some added beads...and that correction still has a couple typos...dsm=ds Dantatter: I did an alternative version of the first round because I do not like those long strings AKTATTER: A side of fun news, the infomercial I got to participate in is finshed and should be aired soon, and my pics are up, www.yogabootyballet.com Then go to See more results on the right side and I'm the 3rd one down. I've lost 50 lbs! AKTATTER: CONGRATULATIONS TO HER! MAYBE IF i TATTED MORE I COULD LOSE WEIGHT TOO ! IWISH ANY WAY AKTATTER: OK ON TO OUR MASTERPIECE FOR THE SPECIAL EVENT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/NeueSchiffchenspitzen.pdf Dantatter: lol AnitaL76: WOW 50 lbs is HUGE!!! that is great!!! AKTATTER: uSING THIS OLD GERMAN PUBLICATION AKTATTER: WHICH LOOKS TO BE FROM THE EARLY 1930'S Cynthia: She is a very busy lady that spoiled2tat...she is without her computer access for a bit AKTATTER: STEPHANIE WILSON CHOSE THE PATTERN ON PG 8 AKTATTER: THAT IS A LONG DOWNLOAD BTw AKTATTER: AH DOORBELL Cynthia: Thank you Steph... AKTATTER: STEPH TELL THEM ABOT YOUR NOTES PLEASE BRB Winkerbill: umm...ok, let me grab my paper Winkerbill: first - this edging is intended to curve, it goes onto a round piece of fabric. Cynthia: Steph does some things like I do in my remake of patterns...forget to put in rw.... Winkerbill: well, I didn't exactly "forget," it was originally going to be for my eyes only Riet de B-engel: I saw something in that e-book that reminds me on the lady that Isaw in the big book of tatting and that I changed in my two angels Winkerbill: I'm doing edgings on the curtains for the master bedroom/bathroom Winkerbill: so I knew to RW and where... Winkerbill: :-) AKTATTER: OK Dantatter: What a task Winkerbill: I didn't specify whether a join was a "conventional" join or a lock join...essentially it's "use whichever one makes sense in that spot" AKTATTER: ACTUALLY STEPH AMRKED THE FRONT AND BACK SIDE OF THE WORK WHICH ALSO INDICATES WHERE TO RW Winkerbill: DS count isn't exact if you compare it to the German pattern. AKTATTER: RING JOINING TO RINGS ARE UP JOINS NORMALLY AKTATTER: CHAINS JOINING DOWN TO CHAINS ARE SHUTTLE LOCK JOINS NORMALLY Winkerbill: I'm sort of convinced they wrote the block tatting somewhat differently than the way I am used to seeing it, so I fiddled with the DS counts a bit. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/stephwneueschiffcenspitzenedging.html Winkerbill: There are a couple places where they use SCMR, but you CAN use the shoelace trick before and after if you'd rather do a regular ring. Winkerbill: i sort of like the look of the SCMR, at least in the middle. AKTATTER: OK EVERYONE HAVE THE PATTERN ON SCREEN? Dantatter: You've done a good job with that one Karen: yep Cynthia: yes AKTATTER: PLEASE GO DOWN THE PAGE AND CLICK ON THE BROWN EDGING PHOTO Winkerbill: I didn't always specify the picot size....most are VSP, but double -check the photo in teh book and if it's not a joining picot, feel free to play around with it. Cynthia: awesome job...steph AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/stephwbrownedge.jpg Marie Smith: Nice work Steph! AKTATTER: WITH THE ENLARGED PHOTO YOU CAN SEE THE DS COUNT Winkerbill: Thanks.... AKTATTER: NOW STEPH YOU NEED TO WATCH CLOSELY AKTATTER: MAKE SURE I AM FOLLOWING YOUR METHOD Winkerbill: oh, and it you use size 20 or 30 thread you could make a round neckline edging for a t-shirt. AKTATTER: LOOKING AT THE PHOTO Winkerbill: ok... AKTATTER: TOP LEFT AKTATTER: THE X INDICATES THE STARTER PICOT Riet de B-engel: This is wonderful AKTATTER: THEN WE MOVE TO THE CHAINS AKTATTER: LAEVING A SHORT SPACE WHICH FUNCTIONS AS A PICOT AKTATTER: CHAIN 9 PICOT 9 AKTATTER: NOW CHANGE DIRECTIONS BY DOING THE SHOWLACE TRICK picotsnkeys: . AKTATTER: RIGHT RIET STEPH DID A GREAT JOB AKTATTER: THAT BRINGS US TO THE BACK SIDE OF THE WORK AKTATTER: IF YOU WANT TO CREATE THE ALLFRONT/BACK SIDE LOOK AKTATTER: THEN REMEMBER TO WORK THE BACK SIDE IN RODS AKTATTER: RODS = REVERSE ORDER DOUBLE STITCH SECOND HALF FIRST FIRST HALF SECOND ETC AKTATTER: AGAIN LEAVING A VERY SMALL SPACE TO ACT AS A PICOT LATER Riet de B-engel: k AKTATTER: CHAIN 5 PICOT 5 Cynthia: Steph why do 2 HS agyter the SLT? AKTATTER: THE JOIN IS MADE TO THE SPOT BETWEEN DS #8 AND #9 IN THE FIRS CHAIN Cynthia: after that should be ... AKTATTER: THE NEXT CHAIN IS 8 AKTATTER: THE SLT MAKES A LITTLE BUMP CYN, IFYOU ADD THE 2HS TO IT IT LOOKS MORE LIKE A DS Winkerbill: it seems to help things lie flat when you change direction (learned that in Martha Ess's class at the last Tat Days) Works for me, anyway. :-) Cynthia: oh I need to try that... Cynthia: thanks...learn something every class.... AKTATTER: THE RING COMES NEXT FOLLOWED BY CHAINS FOR 3 RINGS IN A ROW Jon from x.x.x.41 left the chat 10 hours ago AKTATTER: NOW STEPH IS THIS CORRECT? WE THEN CHAIN BACK AND FORTH FOR THREE MORE ROWS? Winkerbill: it might be a bit early to say this, but the 3 rings on the opposite side of the 'triangle" are written in the pattern as SCMRs Winkerbill: so far, yes, correct. AKTATTER: THROWING OFF THAT SLEF CLOSING MOCK RING SCMR JUST BEFORE THE LAST CHAIN? Winkerbill: yes, that SCMR in the middle is just before the last chain in the first "side" AKTATTER: SCMR = http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/SCMR.pdf Winkerbill: I tried it using the SLT and making a ring, didn't like the way it looked. AKTATTER: OK PLEASE NOTE ON YOUR PATTERN THAT THE STEPS MARKED RING SHOULD BE SCMR Winkerbill: On the other hand, I tried both sCMRs and regular rings for those 3 rings in a row down the "last" side, and liked them just fine. AKTATTER: THE CHIAN AFTER THE CENTRAL SCMR LEAVES US AT THE POINT picotsnkeys: . Winkerbill: and you have to be careful to leave either a loop of 'scrap": thread or a tiny picot when you change direction, because you WILL need to join when you come back. Winkerbill: (learned that the hard way) AKTATTER: NOW DO WE START TO CHAIN THE TOP PORTION? Cynthia: lots of small paperclips...would help... Winkerbill: yes - there are 4 "rows" in that first side, I think of it as going "down up, down up", then you do the top. Winkerbill: And there is a small picot between the chains (above the ring) above each of those 3 rings across the "top" Winkerbill: can't see it unless you sort of stretch it out a bit. AKTATTER: SO IT IS THE SCMR FOLLOWED BY 3 CHAINS OF 8 Winkerbill: I'm guessing that was for sewing it onto the fabric center. AKTATTER: IS THER RING TO THE3 RIGHT OF THE X A TRUE RING OR SCMR? Winkerbill: right, then join to the tiny picot at the "top" and do the next chain Winkerbill: it's just a chain Winkerbill: not even sCMR AKTATTER: AH OK Winkerbill: when you do the last Ch 8, you make a picot, chain 7, change direction, and keep going with more chain AKTATTER: SO DO THIS CHAIN OUTWRADS, REVERSE DIRECTIONS JOIN AND CONTINUR TO CHAIN Winkerbill: :-) Winkerbill: right. Dantatter: impressive work it is Winkerbill: Those 3 rings are actually done RODS...you're on the back side of the work Marie Smith: Just beautiful! AKTATTER: OK BE SURE TO NOTE THAT ON THE PATTERN AKTATTER: THAT REPEATING RING AND CHAIN BRING S UP TOTHE RIGHT POINT Cynthia: incredible...that is very nice.... MRB_ND: It's wonderful! AKTATTER: AND WE WORK THE BLOCK SECTION OUTWARDS INSTEAD OF INWARDS THIS TIME AKTATTER: THE LAST ROWN BRINGS US BACK TO THE RIGHT POINT AKTATTER: AND WE BEGIN THE NEXT MOTIF ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Thu Jun 25 03:11:31 2009 GMT (121 KB) Page 2 of 3 - Char 51234 to 102457 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ Winkerbill: right, you're starting with the inside 'row' of the block section. And the original pattern makes SCMRs on the outer (4th) row. AKTATTER: CHAINING OVER THEN OUT THEN BACK AND THEN STRAIGHT ACROSS DOING THE SCMR'S AGAIN Winkerbill: (I thought this was kind of weird - rings on the one side, SCMRs on the other....but it works either way) AKTATTER: AND IT ALL REPEATS AKTATTER: NO NEED TO DO EACH MOTIF SEPARATELY AKTATTER: THAT IS REALLLY GREAT OW YOU WORKED THAT OUT STEPH Winkerbill: Oh - after the SCMRs you have to join in the 'previous" join or it doesn't lie right. That "extra" join gets the thread back into position to tat AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS?? AKTATTER: OK Cynthia: good thinking...fewer ends to deal with.... Riet de B-engel: Only a big thank you Winkerbill: i hate ends. Actually the book has it going continuously, that wasn't my brain doing all that "figuring out." :-) Cynthia: a very big thank you!!!!!!!! AKTATTER: YOU BET! MRB_ND: I agree -Thank you! Marie Smith: Yes, a big thank you, Steph. picotsnkeys: thank you! Dantatter: Steph, you have done so well with this AKTATTER: I THINK THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL PATTERNS WECOULD TRY FROM THIS BOOK Winkerbill: you're welcome. I hope you have fun with this one. AKTATTER: HINT HINT, ANY TAKERS OUT THERE? Cynthia: I have a similar pattern that is in "motifs" and lots of ends.... AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE DOWNLOADED THE BOOK ALREADY Riet de B-engel: I am printing the book so will have a look AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT PAGE 4 AND PAGE 6 Winkerbill: I'm amazed at the sort of things they DID back then! Dantatter: If I only had the time AKTATTER: THEY BOTH SHOW A PICOT GAUGE BEING USED. AKTATTER: PAGE 4 HAS HUGE PICOTS! AKTATTER: NOTE THAT SINCE THERE WERE SEVERAL NEEDED FOR THE PATTERN Riet de B-engel: I have another question Did you see the new book of the shuttle brothers it is great AKTATTER: THEY LEFT THE PICOTS ON THE GAUGE UNTEIL READY TO JOIN LATER?! AKTATTER: YES IT IS SUPER RIET MRB_ND: On page 6 20 or 21? Riet de B-engel: I did a workshop from them in Montana AKTATTER: THE PICOT GAUGE PHOTOS ARE ON PAGE 4 AND 6 OF THE BOOK NEUE SCHIFFCHENSPITZEN Dantatter: Anyone heard of an Hilde Schleip publishing a book 20 years ago - German AKTATTER: THE NEW BOOK FROM THE SHUTTLE BROS IS ABOUT 70 PAGES AKTATTER: YSE i HAVE HILDE'S BOOK Winkerbill: I've been looking at those patterns quite a bit.... bet you could make lightweight picot gauges out of cardstock and leave them in place Riet de B-engel: Yes but worth th4e monney Winkerbill: then remove them after the next row....that way you woulnd't have to untangle all those long picots\ AKTATTER: THERE ARE SEVERAL PATTERNS AND GOOD ILLUSTRATIONS FOR THE TECHNIQUES USED Riet de B-engel: Hilde's book which one is that Dantatter: AK it is not available anywhere now, right ? Cynthia: definately...wink AKTATTER: YES THE LOG PICOT TANGLE BAD WHEN ALLOWED TO FLOP ABOUT AKTATTER: OUT OFPRINT AS FAR AS I KNOW SUZANNE AKTATTER: TRY BETTY FEINSTEIN Dantatter: What a pity - thanks for the info though AKTATTER: http://www.needleworkbooks.com/ AKTATTER: DO YOU KNOW IF HILDE IS STILL ALIVE? AKTATTER: MAYBE WE COULD ASK HER TO REPRINT? Dantatter: Thank you, I will look into it MRB_ND: I plan to send Georgia (AKTATTER) 3 photoes of patterns I've been doing since 70's or early 80's. I would like everyone's help in finding the sources and designers. I think they are probably from Workbasket but couldn't find them in the ones I have now. AKTATTER: OK ANY LAST QUESTIONS FOR STEPH? Dantatter: There's a doily in it that I am hooked on doing, roflol AKTATTER: GLAD TO HELP YOU MARY MRB_ND: I hope to send the photos later today. AKTATTER: WHICH ONE SUZANNE i WILL LOOK AT IT LATER :) AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS TO STEPHANIE FOR ALL HER HARD WORK AKTATTER: THANKS TO ELLEN FOR HER CREATIVE PAPERCLIPS Dantatter: I have seen it done on grey, it is one with onion rings AKTATTER: THANKS TO NANCY FOR SHARING HER MONTHLY PATTERNS Cynthia: definitly many thanks to Stephanie.... Dantatter: Yes thanks for all the ideas and patterns AKTATTER: ADN THANSK TO AL LTHE POPPY TATTERS FOR HELPING THE CONVENTION MRB_ND: Georgia did you get my poppy email today? Sent about 10:30 EST. Cynthia: also to Georgia for making this possible Karen: It's been fun! AKTATTER: WHAT'S YOUR EMAIL MRB? AKTATTER: THANKS TO ALL OUR HELPERS Linda-S: Thanks Everyone!! MRB_ND: Thanks for all the help/ AKTATTER: :) THANK YOU cYNTHIA! MRB_ND: MaryReneeEng@gmail.com picotsnkeys: thanks for the fun! AKTATTER: THIS CLASS REPEATS AT 10 PM TONIGHT Riet de B-engel: Every body thanks a lot will see you maybe at the Palmetto tat daysgood night Dantatter: Is this the last class before summer break ? AKTATTER: OH i HAVE 6 EMAILS FROM YOU! i WILL GET BUSY DOWNLOADING! Cynthia: without everyone this wouldn't work at all.... Winkerbill: Georgia do I need to try to be here tonight? AKTATTER: TH LAST CLASS WAS jUNE 1 LOL Dantatter: ok, sorry Cynthia: but there are special events during the summer.... AKTATTER: WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU BUT IF YOU THINK I GOT THE PATTERN RIGHT I WILL BE GLAD TO DO IT Marie Smith: Thanks everyone. Bye, all!!! MRB_ND: Had to send them as multiple emails because some of the photos where so big. Cynthia: I'm doing a Christmas in July next AKTATTER: THERE WILL BE SPECIAL EVENTS IN JULY AND AUGUST HERE AND IN THE BEGINNERS CLASS TOO AKTATTER: BYE MARIE AKTATTER: THAT IS VERY THOUGHTFUL OF YOU MARY AS I CANNOT DOWNLOAD MORE THAN 1 MB WITH BY OLD DIALUP AKTATTER: LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS????? picotsnkeys: I will try to check in tonight....if the chores are done. Winkerbill: I'll see how Mom's doing, then....if she's doing ok I might try sleeping at HOME tonight instead of going over there to spend the night. Karen: Thanks for the invite. I enjoyed it! Cynthia: I have 2 offers to proof read my pattern....before I send it out next time AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH FOR JOINING US TODAY AND THANSK TO ANDRéA MECHE FOR THE WONDERFUL PHOTO AKTATTER: DOBN'TMISS THE MIDLIGHT LACE PHOTO FROM ANNE BRUVOLD ON TEH INDEX PAFE TOO Dantatter: And thank you to you, AK Cynthia: Thank you Steph....we hope your folks are doing better again ...you have shouldered a lot Winkerbill: You've got a ptettern that needs proofing? You can send a copy to me and I'll proof tat it if you want. AKTATTER: TAKE CARE ALL HAVE A SAFE 4TH AND 14TH AKTATTER: HAPPY TATTING BYE FOR NOW Winkerbill: bye Georgia Dantatter: bye Georgia Cynthia: the tatting I got right....the writeing....welll lets just say it could be better AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 left the chat 9 hours ago MRB_ND: Don't download the second email - I think it's more than 1 mb. I'll send it again as two seperate emails. In fact, wait on 3rd one too. I'll look at making the files smaller. and resending those emails. Cynthia: short synopsis...my beginning class special event had so many typos it was hard to comprehned,,,let alone tat! but the beginners are a lot smarter than they thought! Winkerbill: Dad's doing ok - he's in a nursing home now. Mom still has health problems - especially the fainting....she's gotten hurt the last 2 or 3 times she fainted. About the time the broken bones heal, she faints again (every 2, 3, maybe 4 months....the shoulder abrasion is FINALLY close to being healed neough to do without a bandage now...after 8 or 9 weeks). Broken nose ...well, she can wear her glasses again.... Dantatter: Have a nice summer all of you Winkerbill: i find writing patterns for someoen ELSE to read is challenging. Writing notes for MYSELF isn't so bad - although I'm guilty of just tatting and "I'll write it down later"...except when "later" comes, I don't remember what I did. picotsnkeys: Cynthia- You're too hard on yourself! Cynthia: that can be so very hard for both the care giver and the senior.... Winkerbill: I rarely put in the RW, or say to close a ring - after all, you normally DO close the rings and RW for the chain, right? Cynthia: Thanks...but the beginners are getting better.... MRB_ND: Good luck - you have taken on a lot! Cynthia: true Steph Winkerbill: I tend to write things down in a real jumbled shorthand version that only I can "decipher" so I know how hard writing patterns down can REALLY be. Cynthia: I used Nancy Tracy's pattern just added the beads but had to write it all out to know when to put beads where... picotsnkeys: Let's hear it for short term memory problems....set it aside for a day and you're starting over! Winkerbill: yeah, that's the sort of thing I ..um.....tend to write "later" adn then forget what I did. Cynthia: see the pic on Georgia's site of Anne's sun catchers.... MRB_ND: I'm trying to write a pattern right now and find that taking pictures of the piece at that point seems to help. Winkerbill: a DAY??? 15 minutes, sometimes. :-) picotsnkeys: LOL Cynthia: 30 seconds....I've hidden my wrist brace from myself so have to use the "outside work" one picotsnkeys: I need to learn to use the camera like Anne does. The picture with the sun is gorgeous Winkerbill: haven't seen it yet. Got here literally 15 minutes before class, and the guy to work on the phone lines arrived at the same tiome....and of course, for some reason "business" came before "tatting" Winkerbill: I was champing at the bit, stomping around out back, sort of mentally "willing" the guy to hurry up. Cynthia: always...I do understand Steph...and yes Anne does awesome pics! MRB_ND: You know if you were waiting for the guy he would have arrived hours later. Winkerbill: I have 2 wrist braces....both for the left wrist....SOMEWHERE there are 2 braces for the RIGHT wrist, but who knows WHERE ? Winkerbill: He said "between 8 am and noon" ....sigh.... picotsnkeys: ummmm.....I have 4 sets......some more worn than others....;) Winkerbill: I'd better go....need to scrounge some lunch, blood sugar will be all out of kilter if I forget to eat, and "tatting" is more important than "eating" around here. Cynthia: my right wrist is the issue...sorry for some weird letters....but it hits the wrong keys and I don't notice.... MRB_ND: I find that if the pictures are just for you the quality doesn't matter so much. Also don't forget scanning if you have that technology. Cynthia: true picotsnkeys: Need to look into a scanner...any tips? Cynthia: I can't drive or lift a class without the support...and never will Winkerbill: I have one totally worn out pair of wrist braces, 1 sort of worn, but not quite to the "worn out" stage, and one "new" pair. All we've been able to find since moving a year ago is the 2 most "recent' ones for the left hand. Cynthia: I like my canon mx700 not too expensive and the ink is reasonable Winkerbill: I can drive now....but some days even a small glass of water feels awfully heavy. On "good" days I can do a lot, 'bad" days I'm a bit more limited Winkerbill: For me, though, it's the knees that need the most help. Winkerbill: Ok, better go. I hope to see you tonight. Winkerbill: bye Winkerbill from x.x.x.45 left the chat 9 hours ago picotsnkeys: oh so familiar. Cynthia: it is a printer, scanner, fax (can't do that due to cable not phone), opier Cynthia: opier Cynthia: copier picotsnkeys: I found a wonderful Physical Therapist who is determined to get me back to playing organ full time. Sometimes it works, sometimes I'm gritting my teeth! MRB_ND: You might also want to check to see if your public library - has scanner you can use. Cynthia: I can't drive without mine...I have a dress one (with tatting), every day without, and the ugly one Cynthia: wrist had surgery in 2001 for torn ligaments and will never be strong again...too much arthritis ...if doc had known he would have done a different surgery Cynthia: won't do it now tho... MRB_ND from x.x.x.250 joined the chat 9 hours ago picotsnkeys: I've found shoulder strength has helped my wrists tremendously. Weird huh? Cynthia: what is the problem pocots? MRB_ND: hit the wrong key Cynthia: welcome to the typo club.... Cynthia: that makes sense tho...as the ligaments are all connected... picotsnkeys: At least typing I don't do the "saying words in the wrong order" thing Cynthia: I understand.... Cynthia: work calls so I'd better sign off for awhile.... picotsnkeys: ah well......take care all. I'm off to the next chore. picotsnkeys: thanks again. picotsnkeys from x.x.x.37 left the chat 9 hours ago MRB_ND: It's better to say something than nothing - we all seem to be able to figure out the typos Cynthia: peace and see you this evening or next time MRB_ND: bye Cynthia: true lingram21 from x.x.x.33 joined the chat 9 hours ago lingram21: is anyone still here? MRB_ND: forgot how to leave lingram21: guess I misse it? :o( MRB_ND: started about 1.5 hours ago. - I can send you the log if you like. MRB_ND: do you know how to leave correctly MRB_ND: bye. MRB_ND: exit MRB_ND: .bye MRB_ND from x.x.x.250 left the chat 9 hours ago Cynthia from x.x.x.211 left the chat 8 hours ago Mimi from x.x.x.11 joined the chat 8 hours ago joy from x.x.x.122 joined the chat 2 hours ago joy: just dropped in to see if the access was working ... culater stitchingsharon from x.x.x.17 joined the chat 76 minutes ago Sherong from x.x.x.39 joined the chat 75 minutes ago Sherong: Hi all, we are early it seems. stitchingsharon: It's not quite 10 pm... hope I didn't miss anything Sherong: Not unless you were trying for the noon class stitchingsharon: nope. I was dreaming at noon AKTATTER from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 71 minutes ago cat2tat from x.x.x.121 joined the chat 71 minutes ago AKTATTER: hello all! cat2tat: Hi Everyone! stitchingsharon: hello Georgia Wally from x.x.x.128 joined the chat 70 minutes ago Wally: Hi Everyone Sherong: Hi Georgia, Wally AKTATTER: joy are you there? Sherong: Have you registered for Palmettos yet? MRB_ND from x.x.x.162 joined the chat 70 minutes ago AKTATTER: welcome wally cat2tat: I have Sherong: Think Joy stepped out. stitchingsharon: Not yet -- but that's on my list of things to do tonight Wally: A;ready registering for Palmettos? MRB_ND: Hi, Mary R Baumler, Fargo ND email: MaryReneeEng@gmail.com Sherong: It opened a couple of days ago. Sherong: Mary: Still chatting, will sign in later joy: yep - I'm back. Hi AK Wally: Oh! I will make the list of the debts this months and will registrate Wally: the difficult part is to choose the classes. All are so interesting Marie Smith from x.x.x.95 joined the chat 68 minutes ago joy: joy.critchfield@gmail (an address that is currently not accessible) Qingdao China AKTATTER: JUNE 24TH 2009 SUMMER SPECIAL EVENT 10 PM ET SESSION Marie Smith: Hello joy: Hi Marie and all! AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN cat2tat: Hi marie! Marie Smith: Joy! Are you in China?!!! Wally: Hi Joy! NIce to see you here! How is life in China? AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP IL USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA AKTATTER: HUAN YING JOY NI HAO MA? Wally: Wally Sosa, PR, needledreams@yahoo.com AKTATTER: WELCOME EVERYONE Sherong: joy C: Glad to hear from you Marie Smith: Marie Smith Anderson, SC tattingwithmarie at yahoo MRB_ND: Mary Baumler, MRB_ND , Fargo ND USA, email MaryReneeEng@gmail.com stitchingsharon: Sharon Fawns Hillsboro Kentucky USA stitchingsharon@hughes.net Sherong: Sheron Goldin (goldie), sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC AKTATTER: MARY I DID NOT GET TO DOWNLOAD TODAY WE HAD SO MANY STORMS BUT WILL TRY TOMORROW MORNING joy: Ni Hao! hmmm will sign in again. as got ahead of the class start gate...joy.critchfield@gmail.com (hoping gmail is back up soon) Qingdao China AKTATTER: TONIGHT WE ARE TATTING BY THE LIGHT OF THE MIDNIGHT SUN EVEN THO IT IS HIGH NOON IN CHINA MRB_ND: No Problem - If possible delete the 2nd through 5th emails - I resent pictures smaller size. AKTATTER: OK GREAT SMALLER IS BETTER FOR MY OLD DIALUP joy: (hiya goldie!) AKTATTER: ANDRéA MECHE GOT INTO THE SPIRIT OF THE SPECIAL EVENT AND SENT US THIS PHOTO Sherong: Glad to hear from you Joy Marie Smith: How are you Joy? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/amecheanchorage.jpg joy: GREAT! joy: (and you???) howdy wally! AKTATTER: THERE SHE IS SURROUNDED BY BEAUTIFUL FLOWERS AND LIT UP BY THE ALASKAN SUN AKTATTER: YOU CAN SURE SEE THE WHITE CLOVERLEAF EDING SHE IS "WEARING" Marie Smith: Looks like yards and yards! Sherong: Will you be joining class some more? AKTATTER: AND ANNE BRUVOLD SENT IN TWO PHOTOS OF TATTING Cynthia from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 63 minutes ago Marie Smith: All is well here AKTATTER: THIS ONE WITH THE MIDNIGHT SUN IN THE BACKGROUND Marie Smith: Is Anne coming tonight? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/annebmidsunlace.jpg AKTATTER: and http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/annebmidsunlace2.jpg Cynthia: Hi everyone Wally: that's sp cool joy: not usually - couldn't teach my second graders today as I caught conjuctivitis... drat had to stay home & tat ; ) AKTATTER: hope so but i don't know Marie Smith: With Nancy's pattern wwith beads Cynthia: it was the beginners special event pattern... AKTATTER: OH PINK EYE IHAD THAT ONCE AND I SCARED THE MAILMAN CAUSE I MADE HIM CLEAN HIS HANDS AFTER I BORROWED HIS PEN. THEY SENT OUT A SAFETY INSPECTOR TO SEE IF I WAS CONTAGIOUS! AKTATTER: SO SHALL WE GET STARTED? Cynthia: you are...you spread tatting all over the world... AKTATTER: FIRST I WANT TO SHARE THE LINKS TO THE PATTERNS FROM THE BEGINNERS CLASS SPECIAL EVENT Cynthia: sorry I couldn't resist.... AKTATTER: LOL GOOD ONE CYN joy: I'm feeling great... eyes didn't even pink up .. but can't be around the kiddos that gave it to me in the 1st place ... ahh welll back on Monday AKTATTER: http:/www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/mimi/Nancy.pdf stitchingsharon: k Wally: That's not fun. I have allergic conjuntivitis often. :-( Sherong: too bad, got to go back and stop tatting Cynthia: when is school out Joy? Marie Smith: Hi Cynthia, Georgia, Sheron, Mary, Wally, Sharon, Kathy AKTATTER: AND http:/www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/mimi/sun.pdf Wally: Hi Marie! Marie Smith: Who am I missing? AKTATTER: AND FOR ALL THE TATTERS WHO HELPED OUT WITH POPPIES joy: could they be hyperlinked AK? Sherong: Could just say "and everyone else' AKTATTER: A THANK YOU NOTE FROM IOLI http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/IOLIthankyouletter.jpg AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/mimi/Nancy.pdf joy: school year ends Jan 8th - it's a calendar year... not like US AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/mimi/Nancy.pdf Marie Smith: re you coming back to US? AKTATTER: ALSO NANCY SENT ROW 3 OF THE ONGOING DOILY AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/pattern0906doily3.asp AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/pattern0904doily2.asp AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/pattern0902doily1.asp Wally: I printed Nancy doily today AKTATTER: BE SURE TO SIGN UP FOR NANCY'S MONTHLY NEWSLETTER AND PATTERN AT BE-STITCHED.COM Marie Smith: She always has a recipe in her newsletter Sherong: Who else of the family is in China with you Joy? AKTATTER: YES IT ISW A GOOD ONE AKTATTER: JOY TELL US A LITTLE ABOUT YOUR TIME IN CHINA SusanCB from x.x.x.10 joined the chat 56 minutes ago joy: ahh dear friend! as of yesteday I signed a contract as Elementary Director K-5 at an international school ... so 9 months in Marie Smith: Hi Susan joy: China - 3 in states Cynthia: Congrats!!!!!!!! joy: thanks - a little overwhelmed... so of course, return to shuttles in times of stress! Marie Smith: Don't you love the kids! joy: thanks! it's exciting! Sherong: You always did love working with young children AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/sunpharaonicsun.jpg wALLY YOU REMEMBER THIS ONE? WOULD HAVE BEEN GOOD FOR OUR MIDNIGHT SUN Cynthia: you can do it! They have faith that you can do the job....and you will Wally: Yes, tatting is always a good relaxant. No chemicals or artificial stuff. lol SusanCB: Hi everyone..... Susan from NC here joy: yep, even tony dino max and leonard... when they aren't fighting with daniel and brian... too many 2nd grade boys! Wally: yes, I still have the pattern. AKTATTER: ok to share? Wally: I can't remember who was testing it. Sherong: I get a page not found Georgia Cynthia: link didn't work....I'd like to see it.... Marie Smith: Would not open for me stitchingsharon: k Wally: yes, I can share it. Will type it again and send it as a pdf AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/sunpharaonicsun-beaded.jpg Wally: links are not showing. :-( Sherong: nope - page not found AKTATTER: they are still uploading Cynthia: That is pretty.... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/sunpharaonicsun-beaded-closeup.jpg AKTATTER: thanks wally Paula from x.x.x.134 joined the chat 51 minutes ago Sherong: Got them both now AKTATTER: WELCOME PAULA Paula: HI Georgia =) Cynthia: Wally that is neat.... Paula: Hello everyone =0 stitchingsharon: wow! that's a lot of beading! Wally: yep, I didn't finish it because run out of beads. lol Cynthia: even more than mine...see Anne's suncatcher.... SusanCB: I think that's beyond me. But I did make 2 of the plan patterns from last week. Finally got that one right. joy: anywhere near raleigh, susan? Marie Smith: Hi Paula Wally: this is the unbeaded version http://i33.photobucket.com/albums/d71/needledreams/tatting/c43e.jpg AKTATTER: THAT IS GREAT WORK SUSAN Paula: Cynthia, did you get my email? Paula: HI Marie AKTATTER: THEY ARE ALL LOADED NOW Cynthia: Susan you can do the one that I did for the beginners Marie Smith: Hi Susan, did not see you Cynthia: Haven't checked my email yet...I was out all afternoon AKTATTER: I THOUGHT THOSE BLACK IRRIDESCENT BEADS QUALIFIED IT FOR A MINDIGHT SUN! stitchingsharon: I haven't finished my suncatcher. Need to do it plain, then go back and do the beads -- loaded on a different shuttle AKTATTER: OK OUR FIRST PATTERN IS BROUGHT TO US BY ELLEN LAI Cynthia: sure and awesome.... Cynthia: about the beads that was AKTATTER: FIREWORKS FOR THE 4TH OR FOR BASTILLE DAY OR NEW YEARS OR CHINESE NEWYEAR'S TOO Cynthia: my computer is doing odd things.... Sherong: Anitra has a group near Raleigh now Joy AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ellenpclipfireworks.pdf AKTATTER: ELLEN HS USED SEQUINS IN THE PATTERN INSTEAD OF BEADS AKTATTER: AND WE ARE WORKING WITH WIRE, TOO Paula: I want to start another suncatcher but had a ? about the length of thread AKTATTER: SO SLIDE THE WIRE THRU THE HOLE OF THE SEQUIN AND FOLD OVER AND TWIST Cynthia: should we sign in? SusanCB: {joy, I'm about 1.5 hours from there} AKTATTER: LATECOMERS PLEASE SIGN IN Cynthia: I'll look paula.....brb Sherong: Where are you close to Susan? AKTATTER: NOW THERE IS A TAIL TO DEAL WITH RIGHT AT THE START AKTATTER: TIE THE TAIL TO THE WIRE NEXT TOT HE SEQUIN Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK brasthatfit@yahoo.com AKTATTER: FOLD THE TAI LNEXT TO THE WIRE Paula: Paula Crossen, Fairchild AFB, WA, thecrossens@comcast.net joy: wire with metalic sequins really looks sharp! SusanCB: {Sherong, I'm 30 miles from Wilmington} AKTATTER: AND THEN WRAP NOT TAT THE DS ONTO THE WIRE COVERING BOTH WIRE AND TAIL END SusanCB: Susan Corliss-Bland, Harrells NC, susan@intrstar.net AKTATTER: YOU CAN ALSO TAT THE NORMAL WAY WITH WIRE BUT NOT NEEDED FOR THISPATTERN Sherong: Don't know a group close to there but you could come to tat days AKTATTER: COVER THE WIRE FOR THE LENGTH DESIRED THEN ATTACH THE WIRE TO THE PAPER CLIP Sherong: Near the beach? Susan? AKTATTER: SUSAN CHECK THIS INDEX FOR THE NCRL http://www.georgiaseitz.com/guilds/index.html AKTATTER: THEY SURE DO JOY! SusanCB: {not too far Sherong. About an hours drive from my driveway to setup and walking the beach} AKTATTER: CONTINUE TO COVER THE WIRE ALMOST TOTHE OTHER END, PUT THE END OF WIRE THRU HOLE IN SEQUIN AKTATTER: FOLD OVER stitchingsharon: k Sherong: Lorrena F is near the beach, don't think she has a group though AKTATTER: ADD IN A MAGIC HELPING LOOP AND COVER TOT HE END, AKTATTER: CUT AND PUT TAI LTHRU THE EYE OF THE LOOP AND PUL LIT GENTLY INTOTHE CHAIN AKTATTER: PRETTY NEAT I THGOUGHT! AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS METHOD? Marie Smith: Lorena is at Sunset Beach AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO ELLEN LAI FOR SHARING WITH US AKTATTER: SHALL WE DO STEPH'S PAPERCLIPS NEXT? OR THE EDGING? Wally: it's very pretty. Marie Smith: Ellen comes up with the cutest ideas joy: what a great beginner project for a wire class... won't draw lines in newbie hands Paula: Either one, because I am interested in both =) AKTATTER: YES SHE DOES A GREAT MONTHLY PATTERN FOR US AND SHE HAS MORE FOR THE REST OF THE YEAR TOO! AKTATTER: THESE TWO PAPER CLIPS BY STEPH ARE ALSO GOOD FOR A BABY TATTER AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/steph2pclips.html SusanCB: Is this supposed to be easy? I'm confused. Maybe it makes more sense if you do it AKTATTER: THE FIRST DESIGN IS A FLOWER MOTIF IN A REPEATING RING AND CHAIN PATTERN Paula: It does make more sense if you do it Paula: That's the only way I was able to do the sun catcher Marie Smith: Steph must be with her mother tonight AKTATTER: SUSAN WE HAVE PATTERNS FOR ALL SKILL LEVELS, EASY TO CHALLENGING AKTATTER: YES I THINK SO SHE HAS BEEN HAVING A HARD TIMNE BUT WE WERE GLAD TO SEE HER IN THE NOON CLASS AKTATTER: TATTING IS HER STRESS RELIEF, I KNOW IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN MINE TOO Marie Smith: Oh, mine, too! AKTATTER: THE FLOWER MOTIF HAS ALL THE RINGS JOINING TO JUST ONE PICOT ON THE FIRST RING stitchingsharon: These are neat! Stephanie as in Winkerbill did these? AKTATTER: NOW A NEW TATTER WILL LEARN TWO THINGS FROM THIS PATTERN Cynthia: Susan if you need help just email me...I help with the beginners....the special event pattern is just rings.... Marie Smith: If I wake up at 3 am, you will find me tatting :-) AKTATTER: YES RIGHT! AKTATTER: IF YOU MAKE THE SINGLE PICOT VERY LARGE Paula: 3am? Wow! cat2tat: me too! Paula: could stay up to then, used to anyway Paula: hat was before this last surgery. AKTATTER: THERE IS A DEFINITE HOLE IN THE CENTER AND THE RINGS WHICH JOIN TO IT AND SLIDE AROUND Paula: How do you know how big to make a vlp? joy: no need to actually be awake... marie can tat in her sleep AKTATTER: AND IF YOU MAKE THAT PICOT VERY SMALL, THERE IS LITTLE TO NO HOLE IN THE CENTER AND THE RINGS ARE TIGHT TOGETHER Paula: Maybe I should ask, which one of my lovely new picot gauges should I use =) Marie Smith: you are right, Joy! AKTATTER: A RULE OF THUMB IS TO LOOK AT THE WIDTH OF THE DS IN YOUR WORK NancyR from x.x.x.247 joined the chat 37 minutes ago stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: 3 DS = SMALL 5 DS = MED 7 DS= LARGE ETC, BUT SE TYOUR OWN COUNT AKTATTER: WELCOME NANCY Marie Smith: Hey Nancy AKTATTER: AND ALL PICOTS ARE RELATIVE NancyR: Nancy R Victoria BC Canada erlooo@gmail.com pardon for being late AKTATTER: FAT THREAD CAN HAVE BIG PICOTS FINE THREAD WANTS PETITE PICOTS AKTATTER: YOU ARE WELCOME ANYTIME NANCY AKTATTER: ALL THE CHAINS ARE 7 PICOT 7 NancyR: thanks :) SusanCB: Are we working the flower clip? AKTATTER: THE 5TH CHAIN IS JOINED TO THE PAPERCLIP Sherong: Yes AKTATTER: YES SUSN SusanCB: k AKTATTER: IF YOU USE THE HELPING LOOP IN THE FIRST RING AND FIRST CHAIN AKTATTER: THEN YO CAN EASILY HIDE THE TAIL stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/drakemt.html Paula: helping loop? Cynthia: aka magic thread... Paula: Oh, I see now, magic thread AKTATTER: http://www.geocities.com/yarnplayer/Magic_thread.html AKTATTER: NOW IF THIS IS A FLOWER, FLOWERS HAVE CENTERS AKTATTER: SO YOU COULD PUT BEADS ON THAT LARGE PICOT ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Thu Jun 25 03:11:50 2009 GMT (121 KB) Page 3 of 3 - Char 102458 to 124362 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER: AND JOIN THE RINGS BETWEEN THE BEADS Marie Smith: Marilee's did not open AKTATTER: OR YOU COULD MAKE THE LARGE PICOT A SCMR SELF-CLOSING MOCK RING AND PUT ON LOTS OF BEADS WHICH WILL BUNCH UP WHEN THE RINGS ARE JOINED AKTATTER: I HOPE MARILEE'S PAGE IS NOT GONE AKTATTER: HERE'S ANOTHER ONE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/rodgers/carnation.html joy: could be fetched via wayback machine? AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/SCMR.pdf AKTATTER: THAT IS FOR THE SCMR AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS ONE? AKTATTER: GOOD IDEA JOY! AKTATTER: OK LOOK AT THE BUTTERFLY NEXT AKTATTER: THIS IS DONE WITH JUST ON E SHUTTLE Wally: Geocities closed a few weeks ago. No page will show AKTATTER: AND THE PATTERN INTRODUCES A LITTLE PICOT PLAY joy: once fetched, might one to screen print and save in the index, eh? stitchingsharon: Ok for the beads ----1) Load beads on thread 20 wind shuttle, beads on shuttle thread, then leave beads on VLP? AKTATTER: EXCELLENT IDEA AKTATTER: RIGHT AKTATTER: PICOTS IN THE BUTTERFLY ARE 4 TYPES AKTATTER: ER 2 TYPES Paula: . AKTATTER: 1 TYPE IS DECORATIVE, THOSE ARE THE REGULAR OR SMALL PICOT, THE MEDIUM AND THE LARGE PICOT AKTATTER: TYPE 2 IS A JOIN JUST FOR CONMSTRUCTION PURPOSES, AND THIS ARE NORMALLY ERY SMALL PICOTS AKTATTER: JUST A MERE BUMP AKTATTER: IN THE UPPER WING THE PATTERN FOES AKTATTER: R 15 SMALL PICOT 2 MEDIUM PICOT 2 SMALL PICOT 10 VERY SMALL PICOT 5 Cynthia: a very small coilless safety pin works well to make a vsp... joy: yeah... met several patterns as foes AKTATTER: YES OR A PAPERCLIP OR EVEN A THREAD TAIL Cynthia: holds it open just a bit AKTATTER: LOL WELL IT IS NOT SUPPOSED TO BE A BATTLE AKTATTER: BUT SOMETIMES WE DO STRUGGLE WITH OUR TATTING AKTATTER: ALTHOUGH I SEEM TO STRUGGLE MOSTLY WITH MY TYPING stitchingsharon: k Cynthia: we all do AK AKTATTER: THE JOINS NEED TO BE VERY CLOSE TOGETHER TO CREAT THE IMPRESSION OF WINGS AKTATTER: CUT THE TAILS LONG AND KNOT THEM FOR ANTENNAE WHEN DONE AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERN? AKTATTER: OK ON TO THE MAIN EVENT Paula: woohoo! AKTATTER: STEPHANIE WILSON'S VINTAGE PATTERN MODERNIZED Cynthia: nope...I think I can do this one...lol Steph is better at proofing her typing than I am SusanCB: Those paper clips are so cute! AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN WAS TAKEN FROM A 1930'S ERA GERMAN TATTING BOOK AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/NeueSchiffchenspitzen.pdf AKTATTER: THE PATTERN IS FOUND ON PG 8 IF YOU COUNT THE COVER AKTATTER: THERE ARE 2 ODD PAGES ALSOIN GERMAN ATTACHED AT THE END OF THE BOOK AKTATTER: IT IS A LONG DOWNLOAD BUT WORTH IT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/stephwneueschiffcenspitzenedging.html AKTATTER: THAT IS THE PATTERN Wally: that's one of my favorite obooks. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/stephwyellowedge.jpg Wally: I have been playing with the book for awhile AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/stephwbrownedge.jpg AKTATTER: AND THOSE ARE THE PHOTOS Paula: It's beautiful AKTATTER: REALLY WALLY, WOULD YOU LIKE TO RECOMMEND ANOTHER PATTERN FOR US TO TRY THIS SUMMER? Wally: the brown looks so pretty AKTATTER: I WANT TO FIRST POINT OUTTO YOU PG 4 AND PG 6 Wally: sure. I'll check on my notes. :-) Cynthia: just the pics give you an idea of how to make the itmes... AKTATTER: THE PHOTOS THERE SHOW A PICOT GAUGE BEING USED AKTATTER: NOTE THE LONG PICOTS stitchingsharon: wow! Marie Smith: I did not get the bolwn-up versions earlier. They are good\ AKTATTER: LONG PICOTS CAN TANGLE SO EASILY SO YOU CAN SEE THE BENEFIT OF LEAVING THE P ICOTS ON THE GAUGE AKTATTER: UNTIL YOU ARE READY TO JOIN TOTHEM AKTATTER: BE SURE TO READ STEPH;S NOTES AT THE START Paula: Would you use two gauges the same size then? Paula: One for making them and one for holding them in place? AKTATTER: NO JUST THE ONE LEAVE THEM ON IT, WHICH MEANS YOU MIGHT NEED SEVERAL GAUGES THE SAME SIZE Marie Smith: You could not do those picots without a gauge NancyR: the pattern on the top left corner of page 6 is my all time fav AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE A LOT OF PICOTS TO MAKE IN ONE ROUND AKTATTER: PG 6 LET ME LOOL Cynthia: depending on how long it needs to be...or how many long picots SusanCB: I'm still waiting for the download Wally: I like that one too. Kinda remind me of a butterfly Paule from x.x.x.194 joined the chat 19 minutes ago NancyR: actually page 7 of the pdf Paule: Allo everyone stitchingsharon: k Marie Smith: Looks like the upper half of an angel AKTATTER: ME TOO AND DANCING LADIES ON THE EDGE Wally: I made the collar on page 4 and the hankie on page 7 Cynthia: hi Paule AKTATTER: THE WIDE EDGING? NancyR: yeah the angels are gorgeous Wally: oops, page 6 AKTATTER: LOTS OF INTERESTING IDEAS IN THIS BOOK Paule: The collar is beautiful AKTATTER: FOR NOW LETS LOOK AT THE BROWN EDGING DETAIL Sherong: Lots of interesting ideas in many of the older books Wally: and the doily in page 11. the one with the dizzy blocks. Cynthia: even if we can't read them.... Paule: Wich one Wally AKTATTER: WOW I AMSO GLAD THE PHOTOS ARE SO CLEAR THAT WE CFAN DO THESE WITHOUT READING THEPATTERNS Marie Smith: Oh, yeah, Wally! Wally: the 1st doily in page 11 AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/stephwbrownedge.jpg AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE TOP LEFT OF THE BROWN EDGING FOR THE X AKTATTER: X MARKS OUR STARTING POINT Paule: Not countonig the cover? AKTATTER: BEGIN WITH A STARTER PICOT SO ADD IN A PAPERCLIP OR PIN Cynthia: right Paule... Paula: . stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: CHAIN 9 PICOT 9 Cynthia: sorry AK back to class..... AKTATTER: CHANGE DIRECTIONS BY DOING THE SHOELACE TRICK SusanCB: I can't find the X Wally: the book page 11, without the cover AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html AKTATTER: LEAVE A SPACE OF THREAD WHICH WILL ACT AS A VSP SusanCB: opps, I was on the wrong pattern....got the X AKTATTER: CH 5 PICOT 5 THEN JOIN BACK TO THE CHAIN BETWEEN DS #8 AND #9 Wally: One repetition would look as a nice pendant AKTATTER: OK SUSAN FOLLOW THE X TO THE CHAIN 9 - 9 THEN SHOELACE TRICK THEN 5 - 5 JOIN Paula: Burble burble, some day this will all make sense, I'm sure, lol AKTATTER: NOTE THAT THE LINES ARE MARKED [F][ AND [B] AKTATTER: THAT INDICATES THE FRONT AND BACK SIDE OF TRHE WORK AKTATTER: SOP IF YOU WANT THE ALLFRONT/BACK SIDE LOOK YOU WILL NEED TO USE RODS AKTATTER: ON THE BACK RODS= REVERSE ORDER DOUBLE STITCH AKTATTER: = SECOND HALF STITCH FIRST, FIRST HALF STITCH SECOND stitchingsharon: k Cynthia: Paula it will soon...we can do some of that this summer in the chat time AKTATTER: CHAIN 8 THEN DO 3 SCMR ALTERNATING WITH CH 8 Paula: Okay, thanks Cynthia AKTATTER: LOL PAULA USE A PENCIL AND DRAW O N THE PHOTO I DO Paula: I have another hands on class on Saturday and I'm sure that will help too =) AKTATTER: AS I READ THE DIRECTIONS I DRAW THE LINE AND IF IT MATCHES THE PHOTO YOU KNOW YOU ARE ON THE RIGHT TRACK Cynthia: that's what the tat chat is for... AKTATTER: THIS IS FOLLOWED BY THREE LINES OF CHAINS CREATIING THAT BLOCK EFFECT Paula: Thanks for the suggestion, Georgia. I'm sure that will help too =) AKTATTER: THE LAST LINE OF CHAINS END TO THE RIGHT OF THE X AND JOIN TO THAT STARTE PICOT AKTATTER: NOW THAT "RING" AT THAT POINT IS ACTUALLY A CHAIN FOLDED BACK TO JOIN AND MAKE A RING SusanCB: I'm just following along. I don't have a clue what the shoelace trick is. Even after looking at that picture AKTATTER: THEN YOU DO THE 3 CHAINS AND RINGS REPEAT ACROSS THE TOP AKTATTER: IT IS JUST A SIMPLE TIE LIKE WHEN YOU TIE YOUR SHOE AKTATTER: LOOK AT PHOTO TEO HERE AKTATTER: TWO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/joypg1.jpg stitchingsharon: k SusanCB: clear as mud. :-) Wally: teh shoelace trick is like when you are going to tie the shoes AKTATTER: THE SHOELACE TRICK MANIPULATES THE POSITION IN WHICH THE TWO THREADS LIE Marie Smith: just the 1st half of a square know AKTATTER: BRING THE SECOND THRAD INTO POSITION TO RING OR CHAIN SOME MORE Marie Smith: knot (not know) :-) AKTATTER: IT IS GOOD TO USE WHEN ONE SHUTTLE IS RUNNING OUT OF THREAD AKTATTER: OR TO USE WHEN WORKING TWO COLORS AND YOU WANT TOCHANE THE COLORS OF THE RINGS/CHAINS AKTATTER: OK SUSAN? AKTATTER: ONE LST CHAIN AT THE TOP BRINGS US TO THE POINT ON THE RIGHT SIDE Cynthia: SusanCB...email me after class (brasthatfit@yahoo.com) I think you would enjoy the beginner class and the summer tat chat time AKTATTER: THEN YOU CHAIN THE THERE ROWS OF BLOCKS AKTATTER: THE LAST LINE OF CHAINS HS THE 3 SCMR ALTERNATIGN WITH CHAINS AKTATTER: NAD THE VERY LST CHAIN ENDS AT THE FAR LEFT POINT ADN WE ARE READY TO START THE SECOND MOTIF joy: susan - in the photo its the little piece labeled swap reverse... you do it every time you tie your shoes.. Sherong: Sorry all, I need to say good nite. See most of you next special event. Sherong from x.x.x.39 left the chat 4 minutes ago AKTATTER: TEH JOINS ON THE CHAINS SHOULD BE VERY TIGHT TO CREATE THE BLOCK EFFECT AKTATTER: NIGHTERS SHERON Paula: I need to go too. DH has to go to work again and I need his help with something first AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS EDGING? Paula: Is there regualr chat tomorrow? joy: byeee goldie! AKTATTER: NIGHT PUALA SusanCB: ok,.. it's not a tatting stich, it just manipulates the position of the shuttles Wally: nop joy: got ot susan! Marie Smith: bye Sheron! AKTATTER: RIGHT SUSAN YOU GOT IT Cynthia: Paula please email me later...good night joy: actually the position of the thread... shuttles stay in the same place Paula: 'Night =) AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO STEPHANIE FOR FIXIN GUP THIS PATTERN FOR US AKTATTER: THANKS TO STEPH AND ELLEN FOR THE PAPERCLIP PATERNS Wally: I'm going to play with this pattern now. AKTATTER: THANKS TO NANCY FOR SHARING WITH US AND THE BEGINNERS CLASS Marie Smith: Great fun tonight! AKTATTER: BEGINNERS CLASS WILL CELEBRATE CHRISTMAS INJULY NEXT MONTH joy: thanks steph and ellen! lov'em! SusanCB: Thanks everyone Marie Smith: Joy, please stay in touch! stitchingsharon: Thanks to all the talented tatters that share with us newbies MRB_ND: Thanks! AKTATTER: THANKS STO WWALLY FOR THE MIDNIGHT SUN AND TO ANNE AND ANDREA FOR THE GREAT PHOTOS TO GET US INTO THE MOOD FOR SUMMER TATTING MRB_ND from x.x.x.162 left the chat 2 minutes ago joy: good to see you again marie! AKTATTER: THANKS TO ALL THE VOLUNTEERS FOR THEIR HARD WORK AKTATTER: AND THANKS TO ALL THE TATTERS WHO SUPPORT THE CLASS cat2tat: Thanks! Have a good night! NancyR: Marie from BC?? AKTATTER: SO GOOD TO SEE YOU ALL TAKE CARE AND SEE YOU NEXT MONTH! joy: joy.critchfield at gmail when gmail is back up, marie Wally: When is the next event? AKTATTER: HAPPY TATTING AND GOOD NIGHT stitchingsharon: Thanks! See ya'll next time. Marie Smith: No, Marie from SC USA NancyR: ahh okay AKTATTER from x.x.x.12 left the chat 66 seconds ago NancyR: << erLo on Ravelry Cynthia: Peace everyone...and have a safe July 4th weekend where ever you are. SusanCB: good nite all. I love the patterns Marie Smith: Joy my email is tattingwithmarie@yahoo NancyR: later all Cynthia: Susan what is you email addy? ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com