The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Mar 31 01:31:30 2009 GMT (164 KB) Page 1 of 4 - Char 1 to 51212 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 cleared the room 7 hours ago AnneB: Nice the video was of help, Cynthia AKTATTER: wall better now AKTATTER: whichnote Cyn? AKTATTER: March 30, 2009 Cynthia: the one about the viruys...I can't spell it...lol cat2tat from x.x.x.91 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: Needle Tatting session AKTATTER: Conficker C cat2tat: Hi Everyone! AKTATTER: what a bummer that is Cynthia: I'll just sit here and listen... AKTATTER: right on INnernational Tatting day, too AKTATTER: hey cat AnneB: Hi Cat Elizabeth (S2T): we have a major storm coming in, so dont know if I will get knocked off or not, but trying to hang in here :) Elizabeth (S2T): Anne, can you send me the link for hte folded join please? Angela: we are wanting to know if it is just an email virus or a catch it online no matter w hat virus JB: what video are you referring to? Elizabeth (S2T): appearantly its one that may be sitting in your computer already AKTATTER: well i decided we should cancel our special event to be ssafe AnneB: Just a moment - AKTATTER: we will celebreate instead on April 8 Elizabeth (S2T): it was all over the news last night, (I dont watch tv) onlyfound out because our neighbor teaches at the college and said they are actually shutting down fo rhte entire day AKTATTER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZxm_PDxjc folded join AnneB: Folded Join: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZxm_PDxjc Elizabeth (S2T): THANK YOU!!!! Elizabeth (S2T): can I reach your other videos fromt here too? Angela: I don't think the state of michigan will shut done. Too many complaints if they do. AnneB: Just do a search on "soluranne" AKTATTER: let's get started please AKTATTER: please SIGN IN Elizabeth (S2T): thanks! AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM Angela: Angela Miracle, Lupton, MI USA; aanjel51@yahoo.com Elizabeth (S2T): Elizabeth D, spoiled2tears@yahoo.com, West Plains, MO USA AnneB: I some more in Norwegian only here http://www.nuperelle.net/om/hvordan/hvordan.htm AKTATTER: IS ANYONE NEW TODAY? Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsĝ, Norway, solurab @ online.no cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA JB: Yes, I am Raelara from x.x.x.124 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: OK JB SIGN IN WITHYOUR NAME AND HOME TOWN PLEASE JB: How Do I sign in? ltbigman from x.x.x.82 joined the chat 6 hours ago ltbigman: Viki Kent Hanover, IN AKTATTER: JUST TYPE YOUR NAME AND HOMETOWN jULIE? AKTATTER: wELCOME VIKI! Cynthia: Type your info in, Raelara: Jenni Sherriff San Lorenzo, CA raelara@gmail.com AKTATTER: IS IT jULIE BOCH? JB: Julie Boch, Providence, RI AKTATTER: WB JENNI AKTATTER: JULIE YOU ARE WELCOME TO ASK ANY QUESTIONS HERE ltbigman: Thank you, Viki JB: Thanks AKTATTER: ALTHO THE FIRST HALF HOUSE WE WILL CONCENTRATE ON NEEDLE TATTING AKTATTER: THE REGULAR CLASS BEGINS AT THE HOUR JB: Sounds great AKTATTER: IS ANYHONE A NEW NEEDLE TATTER? JB: Is there a formal lesson or do people just ask questions? ltbigman: I only needle tat, so that is a help skfuller from x.x.x.148 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: BOTH AKTATTER: WELCOME SUE skfuller: Sue fuller Loveland colorado rlskfuller@comcat.net JB: I have done a little needle tatting and shuttle tatting but am a real beginner AKTATTER: NO NEW TATTERS? THEN i WILL ASSUME THAT YOU ALL CAN WRAP DS, PICOT, MAKE RINGS AND CHAINS, HAVE PRACTICED THE SPLIT RING AND THE SPLIT CHAIN skfuller: Hi everyone AKTATTER: OK JULIE THEN YOU WILL WANT TO REVIEW THE BASIC NEEDLE TATTING PAGES ltbigman: all but the split chain Marie de la Chaume from x.x.x.5 joined the chat 6 hours ago JB: I have not done a split ring or the split chain with needle tatting AnneB: Hi Sue skfuller: hi Marie Marie de la Chaume: Hello girls and all AnneB: And Hi Marie skfuller: Hi anne cat2tat: I haven't gotten split chain either Winkerbill from x.x.x.52 joined the chat 6 hours ago Winkerbill: hi everyone Raelara: I can see how to do split rings and chains, but haven't had much time to practice this weke Raelara: week AnneB: Everybody say it is easy to add new thread in needle tatting. But HOW do you do it? AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 joined the chat 6 hours ago cat2tat: Is split chain done the same way split ring is done on needle? Winkerbill: hi Georgia! AKTATTER: http://www.frontiernet.net/~tammyrodgers/ FOR BASICS AKTATTER: WELCOME STEOH Winkerbill: I have trouble adding a new thread, too, with the needle AKTATTER: MARIE HOWDY! cat2tat: Hi Steph! Winkerbill: much easier for me with the shuttle Winkerbill: hi Cathy Marie de la Chaume: Hello Georgia!!! AKTATTER: YES CAT UP TIL THE END WHEN YOU STICK THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE THRU THE POINT OF ATTACHMENT Cynthia: Hi Steph AKTATTER: ONLY THEN DO YOU RETHREAD THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE AND PULL THROUGH Winkerbill: hi Cynthia AKTATTER: OK JB STICK WITH US AND THIS SERIES OF LESSONS REPEATS AKTATTER: MEAN WHILE LOOK HERE cat2tat: oh, it's easy then - thanks! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingbasics.html Marie de la Chaume: Tonight is a special night AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingbasicspt2.html Winkerbill: What happens tonight Marie? AKTATTER: ARE YOU CELEBRATING mARIE? Marie de la Chaume: ave next to me, Maryv who lives just next to me Marie de la Chaume: who has been tatting for 45 years... Winkerbill: Wow! Marie de la Chaume: and who speaks english AKTATTER: bIENVENUE MARYv AKTATTER: FANTASTIQUE! Marie de la Chaume: which is just great!!! AKTATTER: WHEW! I WAS JUSTG ABOUT OUT OF fRENCH! Angela: WOW Winkerbill: all I can say is bonsoir.... ltbigman: I am unable to get any of the pictures when I go to the basics page cat2tat: wow AKTATTER: NOW ABOUT ADDING ON A THREAD IN NEEDLE TATTING Raelara: cool Marie de la Chaume: Next time, she'll be on her own and well have a new member AKTATTER: TRY BACK IN A FEW MINUTES VIKI Winkerbill: wonderful! ltbigman: thank you JB: The graphics are not visible on the basic or basic two pages AKTATTER: THAT IS WONDERFUL NEWS mARY, YOU MUST SHARE SOME PHOTOS OF YOUR WORK WITH US AnneB: Nice, Mary! AKTATTER: IT MUST BE THAT VIRUS AT WORK ALREADY! OR SOME OTHER CYBER GREMLIN Marie de la Chaume: Her name is MaryV Marie de la Chaume: We do bobbin lace together AnneB: Welcome MaryV! AKTATTER: ADDING ON THE THREAD IS NOT THE PROBLEM, YOU JUST REMOVE THE TAIL OF THE OLD THREAD AND ADD IN THE NEW THREAD AKTATTER: THE QUESTION IS HOW TO DEAL WITH THE ENDS Raelara: I want to learn bobbin lace some time AKTATTER: AND WHEN/WHERE TO ADD ON Raelara: yes Winkerbill: oh....see, that cleared up ONE mystery already.... AKTATTER: TRY TO PLAN AHEAD AND BRING INNEW THREAD AFTER A RING IS CLOSED AKTATTER: THEN THE OLD TAILS CAN BE HID IN THE NEW CHAIN AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/drakemt.html JB: How do you hide the ends? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/rodgers/carnation.html AKTATTER: THOSE PHOTOS WILL SHOW THE HELPING LOOPS AKTATTER: YOU ADD THOSE INTO THE WRAP, PUT THE TAIL IN AND THEN PULL THE TAIL LINTO THE WORK AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: WITH NEEDLE TATTING THERE IS USUALLY ROOM IN THE CORE Winkerbill: I guess my biggest problem with hiding ends is how to get those magic thread loops to cooperate with me and the needle. AKTATTER: SO THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY THREAD THE TAIL ON A SEPARATE NEEDLE PUT INTO THE TATTING AND PULL THRU Cynthia: I find a floss threader works easier than the magic thread but use the same basic technique AnneB: I'll have to try the magic/helping loop when using shuttles one day Winkerbill: you use a floss threader with the needle Cynthia? AKTATTER: YES THAT WORKLS BEST ON SHUTTLES Raelara: that's a good idea cynthia! MJB from x.x.x.136 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: MARY JANE WELCOME MJB: I am early for the tatting class., but will listen to you Winkerbill: you don't tat over 2 needles at once to hide the tail, do you? Cynthia: yes just lay the straight end along the needle and tat over it.... lingram21 from x.x.x.33 joined the chat 6 hours ago lingram21: hi everyone! AKTATTER: I DON'T THINK SO. AKTATTER: WELCOME LINDA Cynthia: no just the floss threader...it works with a shuttle too MJB: Hello lingram 21 Winkerbill: hmmm....I'll have to try the floss threader trick with the needle. lingram21: thank you, G..and MJB AKTATTER: JUST COMPLETE THE TATTING AND THEN PULL THE ENDS INTO THE WORK AKTATTER: IF YOU WIGGLE THE FLOSS THREAD LOOP NEXT TOT HE CORE THREAD skfullers from x.x.x.148 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: TAIL INTO THE LOOP THEN PULL THRU VERY NEATLY DONW AKTATTER: BUT REMEMBER YOU ALSO AKTATTER: NEED TO HIDE THE TAIL FROMTHE NEW THREAD Marie de la Chaume: k Marie de la Chaume: *-* MJB: k Raelara: k AKTATTER: http://www.frontiernet.net/~TammyRodgers/lilys_way.html cat2tat: k AKTATTER: ALTHO THAT WAS WRITTE4N FOR THE SHUTTLE THE METHOD OF HIDING IS ANOTHER ALTERNATIVE AKTATTER: OK AKTATTER: THE NEXT TECHNIQUE TO DISCUSS IN NEEDLE TATTING WAS THE FLOATING RING Raelara: I like the look of that method, I will have to give it a try AKTATTER: ALTHO WE TOUCHED ON IT BEFORE AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/throw2.html JB: Where do you purchase a floss threader? Raelara: my needle kit came with one AKTATTER: mICHAELS jOANN HOBBY LOBBY WALMART AKTATTER: BUT DENTAL FLOOS THREADERS ARE BEST Cynthia: tooth brush isle in grocery stores Raelara: huh AKTATTER: OK INTHIS PHOTO YOU SEE Raelara: I will have to look AKTATTER: 2 REGULAR RINGS WITH A CHAIN BETWEEN THEM AKTATTER: NORMAL JB: What do they look like? I don't think I have ever seen one AKTATTER: BUT ON THE RING Cynthia: dental floss threader is the one I was thinking of Winkerbill: usually blue, just a loop with a stiff end on one side Cynthia: usually in a package of 10 or more straight plastic with a loop Winkerbill: thin plastic, made for threading dental floss between/under bridgework and/or braces. JB: Thanks, I will take a look the next time I am at the drug store lingram21: I found mine at mylocal drug store in with the dental flosses. JB: How do you thread it through the tatting? AnneB: http://www.amazon.com/BridgeAid-Dental-Floss-Threader-Bottle/dp/B000L13T60 Raelara: I think I have seen them before AKTATTER: OPPS ON THE CHAIN ltbigman: is there anything that I need to know to make the floating ring easy with the needle? lingram21: when I'm needletatting, I usually use the needle that I tat with to hide my ends...does anyone else do this? Winkerbill: JB you tat over it. Marie de la Chaume: *-* Winkerbill: so the threader is IN there with the core thread. AKTATTER: YES IT IS BEST DONE WITH TWO NEEDLE Raelara: so, leave the first needle in then throw of the ring with a second needle? AKTATTER: DENTAL FLOSS THREADER IN BLUE THIRD ONE DOWN ON THIS PAGE maria alcan from x.x.x.151 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: http://www.dentist.net/breath-remedy-3.asp Winkerbill: like tatting with two shuttles.... JB: Do you use two needles like you would use two shuttles? maria alcan: Hi, girls! AKTATTER: RIGHT OR YOU HAFVE TO UNTHREAD THE ONLY NEEDLE AND USE IT AKTATTER: WHEN YO WRAP THE FLOATING RING MJB: Hello Maria Krystledawne from x.x.x.71 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: YOU TAKE THE BALL THREAD AND USE THE PART CLOSEST TO THE NEEDLE Krystledawne: Hi all. haven't missed any of regular classs yet have I? AKTATTER: WHEN YOU PULL THRU IT AUTOMATICALY CLOSES INTO A RING Linda-S from x.x.x.7 joined the chat 6 hours ago MJB: Hello Krystle Linda-S: Hi AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIA COMO ESTA USTED? MJB: and Linda Krystledawne: Hi! AKTATTER: HI kRYSTLE Marie de la Chaume: *-* Raelara: Hola Maria Krystledawne: Krystle Pyette, Puyallup WA krystledawne@gmail.com Krystledawne: YO! AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS O NTHAT FLOATING RING OR ADDING ONA THREAD ltbigman: Is there any pictures showing the two needle process, I am lost. cat2tat: Hi! Raelara: nope Raelara: need to practice, though AKTATTER: lINDA I USE MY NEEDLE TO HIDE IT TOO i ALWAYS THOUGHT IT WAS THE EASIET WAY maria alcan: bien ,gracias y Usted? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/throw2.html Wally from x.x.x.254 joined the chat 6 hours ago Winkerbill: I'll just have to go practice a bit .... AKTATTER: MUY BIEN lingram21: http://yarnplayertats.blogspot.com/2008/05/using-floss-threader-to-add-beads-to.html Winkerbill: Hi Wally! AKTATTER: WELCOME WALLY Wally: Hi everyone! AnneB: I got lost somewhere MJB: Hello Wally Wally: Am I late? lingram21: a better picture of the threader and another way to use them AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTION ONTHESE TWO NEEDLE TATTING TECHNIQUES? lingram21: I had a hiccup on my computer Jenny from x.x.x.22 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: THANKS LINDA Winkerbill: my mind understands the process ....now I have to get my fingers and the thread (and needle) to cooperate. Wally: Wally Sosa needledreams@yahoo.com Egypt lingram21: sure AKTATTER: BTW IF YOU CLICK ONT HE LINK IN THIS SCREEN IT TAKES YOU RIGHT TO THE PAGE AnneB: I'll check up on the floating ring subjet later MJB: k AKTATTER: ALL THE NEEDLE TATIING BASICS WILL REPEAT EACH MONTH Winkerbill: Even when I know I"m doing something exactly like the picture, sometimes it just doesn't look like there's ANY way in this world it's gonna work....till I close the ring and sure enough, that WAS the right way to do it on the needle... lingram21: hi Wally...congratulations and love your scarf with sequins! Wally: Thanks Linda. :) lingram21: :O) AKTATTER: OK LET'S SEGUE INTO THE REGULAR TATTING CLASS AFTERNOON SESSION mARCH 30, 2009 Winkerbill: How many weeks do we have with the needle tatting basics? just one month's worth? lingram21: G, I'm so excited about all of these new needle tatters!!! AKTATTER: 1. PLEASE BE AWARE OF THE CONFICKER C VIRUS SET TO WREAK TROUBLE ON APRIL 1 Wally: Georgia, I was trying to get the 1st lesson of needle tatting and I couldn't see the photos maria alcan: maria alcantara; fam alcan@prodigy.net.mx ;Mexico D:F: lingram21: nice to hear that some tatters are willing to learn how to tat with the needle too. AKTATTER: ONE MONTH JB: When will the new session start? Cynthia: lots of us do lingram21: so glad to hear that!!!! AKTATTER: YES IHEARD THE PAGES ARE RFUSING TO REVEAL THEMSELVES AT THE MOMENT maria alcan: some day I´ll finish my wish! AKTATTER: TRY A LIITLE LATER IF YOU CAN AKTATTER: ALSO Wally: I know how to needle tat and teach it a lot more than with the shuttle, but I prefer to work with my little shuttles lingram21: maybe too many trying to access at one time lingram21: yes, and you do lovely work too Wally Wally: I have tried in several ocassions and days AKTATTER: PLEAES REMEMBER THAT YOU CAN SAVE THESE PAGES TO YOUR COMPUTER FOR LATER VIEWING OR YOU CAN PRINT THEM OFF FOR YOUR NOTEBOOK AKTATTER: SO THEN lingram21: I can do both, but prefer the needle tatting myself AKTATTER: WE WILL POSTPONE THE CELEBRATION FOR THE INTERNATIONAL TATTING DAY UNTIL APRIL 8 Wally: So no special event on April 1st? Raelara: I still prefer shuttle, but haven't practiced much on the needle lingram21: Linda Barnes, Woodbridge, VA, US lingram21@comcast.net Krystledawne: I used to prefer needle, but switched back to shuttle last time I picked up tatting again maria alcan: why? AKTATTER: NOPE TOO DANGEROUS LET'S SAFE Marie de la Chaume: *-* Wally: okis. I will tell my students then AKTATTER: THERE IS A NASTY VIRUS ACTIVATING ON aPRIL 1 CONFICKER C Angela: I haven't had much luck with the needle either. but I do like to come to the classes. lingram21: for me it's easier to take out mistakes when using the needle to tat with Wally: Yes, needle is easier for some techniques JB: Is the finished product in needle tatting and shuttle tatting the same? AKTATTER: OK LESSONS FOR TODAY ARE Wally: and there are some patterns that are exclusive to needle. MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus., Indiana usa AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/safoucheedging.html Krystledawne: Very close JB Raelara: http://prerelease.trendmicro-europe.com/hc66/launch/ Cynthia: JB generally it looks the same Krystledawne: they feel different but lool same Wally: it could looke exactly the same Krystledawne: look Raelara: this site offers a free virus scan, might be able t odetect the virus early Linda-S: Linda Harrington, Largo, MD l_m_harrington@yahoo.com AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ellenpclips19d_spring.pdf AKTATTER: THANKS JENNI! AKTATTER: WE SHOULD ALL UPDATE OUR VIURS PROTECTION Krystledawne: I'm trusting Mcaffee Wally: My AVG updates daily AKTATTER: i UPDATED MY NORTON LASTNIGHT AKTATTER: OK ELLEN LAI HAS PREPARED A NEW PAPER CLIP PATTERN Cynthia: get the update...for Mcaffee AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN AS WITH NEARLY EVERY TATTING PATTERN EVER WRITTEN Wally: Oh!!! Waht a cutie those lil' baskets!!! Krystledawne: Yep I updated Windows yesterday too MJB: April paperclip very cute AKTATTER: MAY BE TATTED WITH THE SHUTTLE OR THE NEEDLE Marie de la Chaume: Marie de la Chaume Chateauroux, France icollas @ free.fr AKTATTER: YES IT IS TOTALLY COOL maria alcan: is lovely! Winkerbill: those baskets are SO cute! Raelara: LOVE it! JB: I would like to try it with a needle. Do I need two needles? AKTATTER: MARIE, COULD mARY v ALSO SIGN INFOR THE RECORD AnneB: It would be nica on a card too Cynthia: definately cute AKTATTER: NO JB JUST ONE NEEDLE AND THE BALL THREAD lingram21: aren't they adorable? Angela: I think I will make a couple for my sister's flower journal AKTATTER: THESE LITTLE FLOWERS ARE ALL JUST ONR RING BEAUTIES Marie de la Chaume: Maryvonne, Valencay France, maryvonne.franquin @ laposte.net Wally: Nice way to empty shuttles too AKTATTER: THEY ARE A GOOD =WAY TO TAT OFF THE ENDS OF THE THREADS AKTATTER: INSTEAD OF UNWINDING JB: So I need 1.5m for the needle and then the ball? Krystledawne: If I dissappear it's cause hubby is at work today and I'm chasing the two year old. lingram21: good minds think alike Angela: just put them in a safe place for later use. AKTATTER: YOU MAY USE AS MANY PICOTS AS YOU LIKE maria alcan: maria alcantara; fam alcan@prodigy.net.mx ;Mexico D:F: AKTATTER: NOW THE INTERESTING ELEMENT IN THIS PATTERN IS THE BASKET HANDLE Angela: they are all different AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY Jenny: jenny.griffin@tiscali.co.uk MJB: k AKTATTER: YOU WILL SEE 4 STYLES OF CHAINS AKTATTER: RIGHT ANGLE! Marie de la Chaume: *-* Wally: I can't distinguish the second one AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/gazeboposts.jpg AKTATTER: IF YOU EXAMINE THE SAMPLES IN THAT PHOTO AKTATTER: YOU WILL SEE THE DIFFERENT STYLES Elizabeth (S2T): ooh that' will be fun!!! Raelara: so, the second one is pearl tatting? AKTATTER: THE FIRST ONE IS A REGULAR TATTED CHAIN AKTATTER: THE BASKET ON THE FAR RIGHT MJB: I didn't realize the handle were different cute Raelara: I was numbering from the other side AKTATTER: THEN THE NEXTONE AKTATTER: LOOKS TO BE A Z CHAIN BASKET SECOND FROM RIGHT Norag from x.x.x.140 joined the chat 6 hours ago Marie de la Chaume: *-* AKTATTER: THE BASKET ON THE FAR LEFT Cynthia: lots of us were... AKTATTER: WELCOME ELNORA Norag: hello everyone Winkerbill: z chain? Raelara: I think second from right is victorian sets AnneB: Hi Nora AKTATTER: LOOKS LIKE THE S CHAIN POST Wally: I think so too Raelara: the light brown one I can't figure out AKTATTER: WELL IT IS HARD T OMAKE THEM OUT lingram21: oh you mean that the handles on the baskets are different? AKTATTER: SO SOME OF YOU MAKE SOME MORE MODELS FOR US WITH THE DIFFERNT TYPES Winkerbill: oh, ok, never mind, I found the z chain picture Winkerbill: :-) AKTATTER: YES THAT ONE IS HARD Wally: Could it be lock stitches? AKTATTER: COULD BE Wally: one flipped, one unflipped Marie de la Chaume: *-* Elizabeth (S2T): I want to learn the pearl stitch! Jenny: k AKTATTER: BUT PLEASE LOOK AT THE GAZEBO POST ONCE MORE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/gazeboposts.jpg AKTATTER: THE S AND THE Z CHAIN AKTATTER: THE LINES GO OPPOSITE DIRECTIONS AKTATTER: YOU MAKE THE S CHAIN USING THE FIRST HALF STITCH ONLY lingram21: k Winkerbill: it depends oin which half of the DS you use fo rthe chain....go tit! AKTATTER: YOU MAKE THEZ CHAIN USING HE SECOND HALF STITICH ONLY Winkerbill: got it! AKTATTER: RIGHT! Linda-S: So we tat the flower & leaves & glue them in the basket. What type of glue do we use? AKTATTER: WHO MENTIONED PEARL TATTING? Wally: For me is easier to make the S Raelara: me AKTATTER: PEARL TATTING IS TREMENDOUSLY EASY ONTHE NEEDLE Raelara: and elizabeth Elizabeth (S2T): I did AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE TWO SAMPLES Winkerbill: I've always liked the set stitch AKTATTER: YOU ARE USING TWO THREADS AKTATTER: WRAP ONE THREAD FROM THE LEFT Norag from x.x.x.140 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: WARP ONE THREAD FROM THE RIGHT AKTATTER: YOU WILL LEARN TO USE BOTH HANDS QUICKLY Norag: back now AKTATTER: IF YOU WRAP MULTIPLE DS WITH EITHER THREAD Winkerbill: do you switch hands -tat left handed, then right handed? Elizabeth (S2T): is there a video for this? LOL Wally: I love to make the pearl in the needle because I can use both hands. I can tat with the left and the right. :-) AKTATTER: YOU WILL CREAT THE PICOTS AKTATTER: THERE SHOULD BE eLIZ! JB: Do you thread both threads on on needle Elizabeth (S2T): Anne? request here????? AKTATTER: WITH THE SHUTTLE YOU NEED EVENMORE DEXTERITY AKTATTER: ONLY ONE JB AnneB: LOL Winkerbill: moan....I can't even walk and chew gum at the smae time. Jenny: if you are pearl tatting with shuttles check out Jane Eborall's method. It is very simple Wally: lol AnneB: I'll put it on my "to do list" maria alcan: is this the 3rd basket? AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/PearlTatting.pdf AKTATTER: GMTA JENNY cat2tat from x.x.x.91 joined the chat 6 hours ago Marie de la Chaume: *-* cat2tat: I'm back - computer froze up Wally: . AKTATTER: THIS IS A NEWER WAY OF DOING THE PEARL TATTING THAN WE HAVE STUDIED IN CLASS SO FAR AKTATTER: WB MJB: k Raelara: I like that idea AKTATTER: BUT PEARL TATTING IS MORE EASILY AND FASTER DONE WITH THE SHUTTLE IF Winkerbill: tat one, wrap one? Raelara: looks a lot simpler than other ways I have seen Wally: That's how I learn pearl tatting. AKTATTER: YOU WRAP THE DS NOT TAT THEM , I.E., UNFLIPPED DS Norag: k Winkerbill: wrap both shuttles and the ball thread acts as the core? maria alcan: . Elizabeth (S2T): all of them unflipped? AKTATTER: ALL UNFLIPPED Winkerbill: ah, ok, got ya Elizabeth (S2T): ty AKTATTER: RITH STEPH Cynthia: yes like in needle tatting Winkerbill: and sh 1 would be reverse order, sh 2 would be "normal " order DS? Wally: It's even faster if you "attach" the ball to a "3rd hand" plier thingy. Elizabeth (S2T): sorry to back track, but is there a web site for the needle pearl? lingram21: yes, Cynthia AKTATTER: HERE IS MORE PRACTICE IN MALTESE OR PEARL TATTING http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/maltesesnowflake.html Marie de la Chaume: *-* AKTATTER: IT MIGHT BE ON ROGER'S SITE BUT HER HAS JUST OKMVED THINGS AKTATTER: http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi AKTATTER: YOU NEED TO REGISTER JB: So on the needle you have two threads, you make one half DS three times with one thread and three of the second half of the DS and when you go back to the first threasd the picot is automatically made? Elizabeth (S2T): oh duh AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/gazeboposts.jpg AKTATTER: THAT PHOTOS WHOS WHERE THE THREADS ARE AND HOW IT LOOKS AKTATTER: RIGHT jb!!! AKTATTER: OK TO MAKE THE BASKET TAT THE CHAIN AKTATTER: PLENTY OF CHOICES ON WHICH TYPE TO DO Marie de la Chaume: *-* Marie de la Chaume: We are slow over here but try to read all!!! Winkerbill: I had a whole GALLON jar of those little "save the ends" flowers....haven't seen them since we moved in June, but they've GOT to be here somewhere! AKTATTER: THEN SWTICH SHUTTLES AKTATTER: AND TAT TWO RINGS NO SPACE BETWEEN THEM AKTATTER: CHAIN, THEN ANOTHER SINGLE RING AKTATTER: CHAIN, THEN ANOTHER SINGLE RING AKTATTER: THEN MAKE THE SPLIT RING JB: If you are needle tatting, what do you do when you finish the chain? Wally: got lost... After the chain do we join the chain and climb with a SR? AKTATTER: GO RIGHT INTO A RING Jb Norag: k AKTATTER: OPPS i REPEATED A LINE AKTATTER: TWO RINGS TOGETHER AKTATTER: CHAIN THEN ONE RING AKTATTER: CHAIN THEN RING THEN SPLIT RING AKTATTER: EXIT INTO CHAIN AND GO JOIN TO TEACH RING Winkerbill: Oh I SEE it now! maria alcan: there are 6 ds in between each ring? Winkerbill: :-) ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Mar 31 01:32:09 2009 GMT (165 KB) Page 2 of 4 - Char 51213 to 102462 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER: AND JOIN TO THE PAPER CLIP lingram21: k AKTATTER: NO AKTATTER: THE FLOWERS HIDE WHAT HAPPEN AKTATTER: THERE ARE FIVE RINGS Raelara: teach ring?? AKTATTER: RING RING RING RING SPLIT RING Norag: I'll need these instructions because i can't read the printout lol Wally: Ah.... Now I see!!! AKTATTER: SO TAT TWO RINGS FOLLOWED BY A CHAIN, ONE RING, CHAIN, THEN THE LAST TWO RINGS OF WHICH ONE IS A SPLIT RING Wally: We haven't close the chain yet lingram21: ch is only before and after the middle ring Wally: these rings are like thrown-off rings? AKTATTER: RIGHT PLEASE NOTICE THE DIRECTION TO JOINJ TO THE START OF THE CHAIN AKTATTER: NOPE NORMAL RINGS EXCEPT THE LAST ONE = SPLIT RING Winkerbill: The chain curves in a circle...sort of, doesn't it? AKTATTER: OK? lingram21: k 4 me Wally: o_0 Will have to make the pattern to understand. I think my brain is full of beads. lol Marie de la Chaume: *-* AKTATTER: CIRCLE WITH A FLAT BOTTOM = EDGE OF BASKET lingram21: or sequins, Wally AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS? Winkerbill: ok....I think I'll have to make it to know if I need to ask any more questions. :-) AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO ELEN FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US Winkerbill: My floor is full of beads. Head is full of thread and sequins.... AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT SUZANNE FOUCHE'S BOOKMARK/EDGING Raelara: should be fairly simple MJB: thanks Ellen Raelara: good needle practice Wally: My floor too. I was working with tons of beads today and spill them. Cynthia: definitely...a big thanks to Ellen AKTATTER: THIS IS A RETURN TO WHAT WE USED TO CONSIDER CLASSIC CELTIC STYLE TATTING AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/safoucheedging.html Winkerbill: I always seem to spill them or drop some when I work with beads. Elizabeth (S2T): TY Ellen Raelara: It is so cool looking Jenny: Thanks Ellen. All the paper clips are really pretty lingram21: yes, just in time for Easter Norag: Many thanks to Ellen Winkerbill: Do I need a Celtic shuttle for this or will my Clovers work? Cynthia: clovers will work Raelara: shouldn't need celtics, the motifs are tatted then woven Winkerbill: :-) Hard to bead my little clovers.... Marie de la Chaume: thank you so much, Ellen, so pretty!!! and teaches a lot!!! AKTATTER: THIS IS JUST PLAIN TATTING NOTHING SPECIAL NEEDED Wally: G, Maria already made the homework. She worked faster than me! lol AKTATTER: THE PRINCIPLE IS THIS Winkerbill: k AKTATTER: ONE PIECE OF TATTING WITH HOLES IN IT AKTATTER: YES SHE WAS THE FIRST ONE TO SPOT THE ERROR TOO lingram21: k AKTATTER: A SECOND PIECE OF TATTING WITH POINTS ON IT Norag: k AKTATTER: THE POINTS ARE INSERTED THRU THE HOLES MJB: what error AKTATTER: AND THEN A THIRD ROUND OF TATTING "SEWS" THEM TOGETHER Cynthia: what error????????/ Winkerbill: oohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh............... AKTATTER: THE CHAIN DS COUNT DIS NOT MATCH THE PHOTO AKTATTER: THE PATTERN WAS REVISED ON sAT. Cynthia: photo too small to count...lol maria alcan: jojojo AKTATTER: CHAIN SHOULD READ ch 4 - 2 - 2 - 4 Wally: So the copy I printed today is correct? AKTATTER: IS THE REVISIONS SHOWING?? JB: When needle tatting the basket, when do you go to the ball thread? Angela: not on my copy and I printed today Norag: would like to print this lesson Georgia, please Cynthia: on which flower? lingram21: mine still says - 5 Winkerbill: looks like it says 4 - 2 - 2 - 5 Wally: it says 5 lingram21: yes Raelara: yep, 4-2-2-5 Wally: so it's 4 instead of 5 Raelara: good to know, though. Elizabeth (S2T): yea!I wasnt nuts! Elizabeth (S2T): it did change! Marie de la Chaume: *-- Elizabeth (S2T): it used to say 2-2-2-2 didnt it? Krystledawne: . AKTATTER: LOL Cynthia: I'm lost where are we? AKTATTER: YOU MIGHT BE LOOPING i THINK IT SHOWS RIGHT NOW Elizabeth (S2T): I seriously thought I was completely loosing my mind!! AnneB: Try to refresh the page to get 4-2-2-4 AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/safoucheedging.html Norag: k Wally: Now it shows AKTATTER: SOMETIMES IF YOU GET AN ERROR MESSAGE ON A PAGE maria alcan: Ok!!! AKTATTER: YOU NEEDE TO REFRESH Winkerbill: now it is 4 - 2 - 2 - 4 Thanks Anne lingram21: oh yes, I refreshed page and now it says 4-2-2-4 Angela: ok lingram21: thanks AKTATTER: OR EVEN GO AND CLEAR THE TEMPORARY INTERNET FILES AND HISTORY FILES OUT Raelara: that's better AKTATTER: IN ORDER TO SEE THE NEW PAGE AOL IS REALLY BAD THAT WAY Elizabeth (S2T): uh oh, I have 5 that are 4-2-2-5 >........... JB: For the basket, you first work the chain, then the rings and with the split chain you reverse the work to join the rings by chains. Is this correct? AKTATTER: WELLMAKE A HAND CORRECTION ONTHE DIRECTIONS AKTATTER: ALL CHAINS ch 4 - 2 - 2 - 4 Winkerbill: ok, so you make the part with holes, you make another part with points, you stick the points through the holes, then you tat around them? AnneB: Did you try to refresh the page, Elizabeth? AKTATTER: JB IT IS A SPLIT RING BUT ALL ELSE IS CORRECT AKTATTER: THAT IS RIGHT STEPH Elizabeth (S2T): G, I already made 5 Flower A's as the 4-2-2-5 Winkerbill: I'm back on the Celtic page...by the way Elizabeth (S2T): lol Wally: Are the directions on the left the same thing of the directions on the right? I'm confuse today Winkerbill: oh, well it's not nearly as hard as it looks....I hope. :-) AKTATTER: LETS SEE IF THE OLD PATTERN IS STILL ACTIVE Marie de la Chaume: *-* AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/essceltic.htm Elizabeth (S2T): ooooh pretty JB: Do you use the ball thread to finish the second part of the split ring? Wally: I was looing for that pattern!!!!!!!!!!! Raelara: wow!!!1 Winkerbill: gasp! AKTATTER: RIGHT JB Winkerbill: that's gorgeous, but looks scary-hard! AKTATTER: YOU TAT THE FIRST HALF OD THE RING NORMAL Angela: OMG Winkerbill: :-) AKTATTER: THENUNTHREAD THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE AKTATTER: USE THAT TAIL TO WRAP THE REMAINING DS NEEDED FOR THE SPLIT RING Wally: I made the hearts separated because couldn't find the instructions to weave them Winkerbill: I'll need to print that and look at it for a few months before I get brave enough to try THAT one! Norag: when making those continuous chains do you lock stitch after each chain like the rose examp lingram21: don't think I'll try that one in one pass... AKTATTER: RETHREAD THE NEEDLE AND PULL THRU Elizabeth (S2T): amazing, no way am I ready for that though, but simply amazing!! AKTATTER: ISN'T THAT A KNOCK OUT! AnneB: That was my first go at celtic tatting AKTATTER: SO IT CAN GET PRETTY FANCY AnneB: Needed to do it twice LOL lingram21: AMAZING is all I can say Marie de la Chaume: *-* Wally: It's easier if you make the 2 hearts separately and then make then woven AKTATTER: BUT SUZANNE HAS MADE IT REALLY EASY FOR US lingram21: if I tried that you'd have to lock me up...LoL Wally: It's the celtic motif on IOLI working? AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE TWO BOOKMARKS OB THE PAGE FRONT AND BACK AKTATTER: HOW MANY DIFFERENT PATTERNS DO YOU SEE? MJB: k Norag: what hearts? lingram21: 3 JB: I am not sure what you mean by that tail Winkerbill: 3 plus the reverse-color pattern of each.... MJB: 4 Elizabeth (S2T): 2 G maria alcan: 3 Marie de la Chaume: 2 Norag: 2 AnneB: One? Jenny: 3 AKTATTER: WE WERE JUST LOOKING AT mARHTA'S CELTIC STYLE HEART ELNORA AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/essceltic.htm maria alcan: paterns 2 way to combine them 3 AKTATTER: THE PATTERN TODAY USES A SIMILAR METHOD Winkerbill: 2 if you're not taking "color" into account AKTATTER: TWO IS CORRECT AKTATTER: AND COLOR MAKES ALL THE DIFFERENCE lingram21: oops MJB: man I was way off lingram21: yes, i see it now AKTATTER: RIGHT! AnneB: Are pattern A and B put together in two different ways? AKTATTER: SO WHAT WE HAVE IS THIS Raelara: no, just different sides are showing Cynthia: no same way JB: When you unthread the needle to do the split ring, what tail do you use Cynthia: but some are face up and some are face down AKTATTER: THEONE FROMT HE EYE OF THE NEEDLE jb Marie de la Chaume: *-* AnneB: Ah - ok AKTATTER: WE HAVE A ROUND MOTIF, R INGS FACING INWARD AND JOINED AND CHAINS ON THE OUTSIDE JB: I am not sure what you mean Norag: 1 dark purple, 1 varigated purples AnneB: I counted one combination of the two patterns as one - ok. Norag: thanks georgia lingram21: we are on the bookmark now... AKTATTER: WE HAVE A POINTED MOTIF, 6 RINGS FACING OUTWARD, INJOINED ANDCHAINS ON THE INSIDE maria alcan: . AKTATTER: THEN WE PUT THE POINTS THRU THE HOLES AnneB: Now I want to do the heart again... AKTATTER: AND THE ECRU TATTED CHAINS GO AORUND THE OUTSIDE AKTATTER: IT IS A BEAUTIFUL HEART AnneB: Yes - it is. AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE ? Winkerbill: so at least one of the inward-facing rings motifs is done in ecru, the others in red? AnneB: No Wally: nop Marie de la Chaume: no Elizabeth (S2T): I bow in your honor Anne, you are good! :) JB: I am still unclear on the basket Marie de la Chaume: I have to practice... and MaryV too... Winkerbill: and that makes what looks like a different "pattern" in the middle one? JB: when do you use the ball thread? Winkerbill: whew, this one will take some work, I think! Elizabeth (S2T): the way its placed through wink, I think? Winkerbill: another tatting challenge....to work on just "because it's there" Raelara: It'll be fun though Wally: Have to go early. :-( Hubby just arrived with dinner. Thanks for the lesson! See ya later! Winkerbill: yeah, I'm excited about it already! Wally: Chao! Winkerbill: bye Wally! Jenny: i want to make the bookmark and the heart but I don't know when I'll have time AKTATTER: THE COLORS AND WHETHER THE MOTIC IS RIGHT SIDE UP OR BACK SIDE UP Angela: bye Wally Elizabeth (S2T): later wally Marie de la Chaume: Bye Wally AKTATTER: jb LOOK HERE PLEASE lingram21: bye Wally maria alcan: bye wally Winkerbill: would you do front/back side tatting on this, then? Cynthia: Wink it is easier than you think...I have one part way done... Jenny: bye wally Krystledawne from x.x.x.71 joined the chat 5 hours ago Norag: love purples AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/nt34.jpg Krystledawne: Whoopsie AKTATTER: the rign on the left is normal AKTATTER: the ring onthe right is a split ring AKTATTER: then look here AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/nt35.jpg AKTATTER: that is the same split ring but I used pink thread Norag: bye Wally lingram21: easier to see with the two colors AnneB: Hi Krystle! Elizabeth (S2T): G, I just want all your links and such! I would spend months just reading and looking around! Krystledawne: Hi again AKTATTER: now see http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/nt36.jpg AKTATTER: bye wally AKTATTER: HERE IS A PLACE THAT WOULD HELP ELIZ cat2tat: do you do Flower A in one color and Flower B in the other? Krystledawne: Was getting toys cleaned up and child off to nap so I could have some sanity..... AKTATTER: http://home.earthlink.net/~frmuse/alison/index.html lingram21: what thread is that, G? pretty colors. AKTATTER: AND http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/tattechfuller.html Winkerbill: hehehehe.....we're all asking about different things. I don't see how Georgia keeps us all straight.... AKTATTER: http://www.nuperelle.net/om/hvordan/hvordan.htm Elizabeth (S2T): OMG OMG! HUGS Georgia!!! AKTATTER: jb note that the SPLIT RING EXITS OPPOSITE TO WHERE IT STARTS JB: So, you are using the tail and then drawing it through to create a loop? Elizabeth (S2T): IM in HEAVEN!! :) AKTATTER: RIGHT CAT DIFFERENT COLORS MAKE THIS PATTERN EYE CATCHING AKTATTER: SUZANNE USED FLOAR THREADS AKTATTER: BUT I WOULD LOVE TO TRY OUT THE NEW LIZBET THRREADS ON IT lingram21: thank you,G! AKTATTER: LOL ELIZ Elizabeth (S2T): I will never sleep again LOL AKTATTER: EXACTLY CORRECT BJ! YOU ARE REALLY CATCHING ON FAST Angela: I was just thinking that would be a good thread to try AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS TO SUZANNE FOUCHE FOR SHARING WITH US AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESTINOS? cat2tat: love the colors of the new threads I've gotten Cynthia: definately thanks to Suzanne Fouche MJB: thanks Suzanne lingram21: yes, thank you Suzanne Elizabeth (S2T): thanks Suzanne Winkerbill: I've already used almost 2 entire balls of Lizbeht thread....can't put it down Norag: k cat2tat: Thanks! AnneB: Thanks Suzanne Marie de la Chaume: now now, after... maybe lingram21: what thread did you use for the split ring demo? Winkerbill: and i just GOT it the end of February or the beginning of March! AKTATTER: any general QUESTIONS SHUTTLE OR NEEDLE? MJB: no Cynthia: not here Elizabeth (S2T): yes, G, tried flower B but it keeps ending up looking like Flower A, what am I doing wrong? Angela: not me AKTATTER: FOR THOSE MODELS AND DEMO I USE PLASTIC CANVAS CORDS, REALLY THICK ONES SO YOU CAN SEE EACH DS Winkerbill: Is this where we come to treat our addiction to tatting? lingram21: G, what thread did you use for split ring demo??? maria alcan: thanks Sozanne cat2tat: not yet lingram21: thank you Cynthia: the rings go on the inside not outside Jenny: no I think I'm ok AnneB: Do we want to be treated? Elizabeth (S2T): yea, but I keep ending up wtih them there, cant figure out what I did wrong Cynthia: Eliz we can chat after about it lingram21: sorry, but I think this class is an enabler...LoL AKTATTER: DO NOT JOIN THE RINGS TOGETHER ELIZ Elizabeth (S2T): of course it was late, and I was tired Cynthia: if you want Elizabeth (S2T): okay thanks Winkerbill: hehehe..... lingram21: ;o) AKTATTER: LOL LINDA IT SURE IS! AKTATTER: ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? lingram21: yes Raelara: now I have to decide which I want to do more, tat, or weed cat2tat: Amen! AKTATTER: SEPCIAL EVENT APRIL 1 POSTPONED TO APIRL 8 BECAUSE OF CONFICKER C VIRUS lingram21: thank you, G! Cynthia: no question Rae...TAT AKTATTER: TAT DEFINITEY Elizabeth (S2T): Weed then relax tatting :) Winkerbill: tat, tat! Weeding just gets you sweaty and dirty, then you have to take a shower before you can tat! AKTATTER: THIS LESSON REPEATS TONIGHT MJB: right on Elizabeth (S2T): oops, srhinking back LOL lingram21: don't forget to do some tatting on April 1st AKTATTER: 8 PM AND 8:30 pm ET Angela: I still have snow, so it is hands down tatting Norag: Thanks Georgia Raelara: exxcept that it is sunny and lovely outside and I have quack grass making me crazy lingram21: bye all for now, it was fun as usual!!!! Jenny: Weed when the sun shines and tat when it rains Elizabeth (S2T): no internet on the first? no problem having lots of tatting time! AKTATTER: BEGINNING SHUTTLE TATT ING THURSDAY 3PM AND 9PM ET Elizabeth (S2T): no internet on the first? no problem having lots of tatting time! Winkerbill: Snow? I was out running aroud with no jacket - just pants and a t-shirt - today maria alcan: thank you G..for your time! "kiss" Winkerbill: and a mask for the pollen.... Elizabeth (S2T): dont know why that came through twice AKTATTER: SPANISH SPEAKING TATTING CLASS SUNDAY 3 PMET AnneB: Lots of snow here Elizabeth (S2T): Thanks agian G, and for all the links, my boys are looking at me funny for my Happy Dance! Marie de la Chaume: Thanks Georgia, had a good time with you... maria alcan: bye all girls!!!! AKTATTER: THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR STOPPING BY AND TO THOSE IN PARTICULAR WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THEONLINE TATTING CLASS THIS WEEK. MJB: thanks Georgia., always enjoy your class and the people cat2tat: Bye everyone! Thanks Georgia! Winkerbill: I need to leave....hope to be back tonight....Thanks Georgia. Winkerbill: Bye everyone. Raelara: thx all AKTATTER: mARY v PLEASE COME BACK Cynthia: teach then to tat and they will know why! Winkerbill from x.x.x.52 left the chat 5 hours ago AnneB: Thanks Georgia JB: Thanks Georgia - I have plenty to work on Norag: Bye and May God Bless one and all Jenny: Thanks Georgia Bye AKTATTER: JB I HOPE YOU ENJOYED YOUR VISIT PLEAS E E MAIL ANY QUESTIONS TO ME AKTATTER: BYE FOR NOW AND HAPPY TATTING ALL! AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 left the chat 5 hours ago JB: I am sure I will have questions once I get going. I appreciate your offer. Jenny from x.x.x.22 left the chat 5 hours ago Cynthia: Anne if I'm not here on Thursday...hang in there I'm going to a different computer as this one Angela: bye G Cynthia: will not start... Cynthia: Anne did that make sense to you? Angela from x.x.x.157 left the chat 5 hours ago AnneB: If anybody need some snow... : http://weather.cs.uit.no/cgi-bin/wtstat?viewtime=200903301730 AnneB: Well, I'm not here on Thursday, soo If you're not here... Raelara: I need to feed and nap kids, see you all later Marie de la Chaume: MaryV says YES, I do intend to come Elizabeth (S2T): C, can I catch up with you later? I desperately need to get some propane before they close- Elizabeth (S2T): if you dont mind that is Cynthia: we'll manage,,, Marie de la Chaume: Mabye thursday. I have not tatted since very long Cynthia: yes eliz Cynthia: You are welcome to join us Marie Elizabeth (S2T): okay ty, and if you need help with links Thurs let me know, I can load them up here for you. Elizabeth (S2T): okay y'all have a great day! have to rush off Cynthia: That would be very helpful AnneB: Bye Elizabeth! Cynthia: Doug says I should shut the computer down completely Tuesday evening and not start it until Thursday...We have a switch/relay that doesn't work Cynthia: It took 10 days to get it back last time I shut it down....no repair people in this town... AnneB: Is thhis due to the virus or other unrelated? Cynthia: the relay/switch is unrelated just a pain in the ___________! Cynthia: We may have to take the computer to Dallas to get it fixed... AnneB: Computer problems usually are AnneB: - a pain in... Cynthia: sorry my frustration is showing..... Cynthia: We've had 3 guys here to "fix" it and they all say what it is...we say get the new one and get it fixed....we never see them again! AnneB: no problem. I was close to throwing a computer through the window once Cynthia: same with major appliace repair...they can tell you what the problem is but "can't " get the part. Cynthia: I get the parts...then figure out how to put it in...good tutorials on some of the websites from the manufacturers AnneB: Repairmen seems to be the same everywhere Cynthia: it is so frustrating............ Cynthia: sorry can we talk about something fun? AnneB: It is Cynthia: have you tatted with rayon embroidery floss? AnneB: No, I don't think so Cynthia: don't waste your money...lol It is so slick that it is a challenge to keep the picots and ds looking right Cynthia: it does come out pretty tho.. AnneB: I have used some viscose once a long time ago AnneB: Slippery stuff! Cynthia: very slippery...it is looking nice tho...I have 3 1/2 of the flower a done....I hope to get to flower B later tonight and maybe post it on my blog. AnneB: I'm at summertime/daylight saving time now, and classes are late LOL AnneB: No tatting tonight Cynthia: sorry do you need to close and get some sleep? It is about 3:30 here AnneB: I need to knit a shawl by April 23rd, and try to decide which to do AnneB: Half an hour and some then I shold go to bed AnneB: Key word: should AnneB: Its 22:30 here soon Cynthia: my daughter has a top that is purple, raspberry, and tan and I'm doing the bookmark as a braceket for her Cynthia: it is 15:30 here soon so you are 7 hrs ahead of us...right? AnneB: Uh - my brain started working AnneB: Güterman Sulky is rayon, and I tatted a dragon using it AnneB: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2008/08/man-kan-bli-sliten-av-bli-laget.html Cynthia: someday I will try it as what I have here is a challenge---too slippery AnneB: That was the thread that made me using two shuttles for SSSR Cynthia: Beautiful! I think it is better quality than what I have! AnneB: The bookmark will be a nice bracelet! AnneB: Thanks! It was a pain to make. Cynthia: check my blog and I'll figure out how to get a pic up as soon as I can get it done AnneB: You're on blogspot too? Cynthia: yes...I think I follow yours...a tan tatted circle on brown....or no picture...I don't remember which when I added your blog Cynthia: http://tattingaway.blogspot.com AnneB: Photos are no problem there - as long as you have a camera Cynthia: Beth has one and I can get her to take it...she did that one...for me AnneB: It sounds like this one? http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/ Cynthia: yes I found it. Yours is so much better than mine. I need to learn how to add pictures and get seperate pages ....it will come...I'm still crawling at it AnneB: You can alo use the camera on you'r mobile phone, if it has one Cynthia: some day I'll walk...no my phone doesn't...I got the easy to use model...it doesn't do tricks AnneB: A small warnig: using digital cameras can be adictive Cynthia: maybe I should get one then! lol a nice safe addiction AnneB: And next you have a usb camera and make videos AnneB: You can use an USB camera for stills Cynthia: not for awhile...I don't photograph well... AnneB: Or a scanner for tatted motifs Cynthia: that I have...lol AnneB: Who sais that more than your hands need to be visible Cynthia: true... Cynthia: I love your technique for folded join! AnneB: Thanks! Cynthia: it is so much easier than the way I always did it.... Cynthia: think fold the first picot under my hand/tatting and then up...if it got turned....well retrotat and try again! AnneB: I was bending my way to do that kind of join way back, and just experimented Cynthia: I've done 3 your way time and they all worked the first time AnneB: Sometimes I got the thread on the wrong side and had to let it run through an opening while finishing Cynthia: I'm fiddling with a way to do split chains with a sssr type technique...not yet got it to work but can see how AnneB: A SSSC would be nice! AnneB: or SSSCH Cynthia: I'll get it figured out yet then post what I do with pics...well I'll try anyway... Cynthia: the split chain is still not working very well for me...lol. I should have tried it years ago and then it would be mastered by now.... AnneB: I don't like the split chains either. AnneB: Did my first SC in the Martha Ess celtic hearth Cynthia: good I was thinking I was the only person who struggled with them...even marie's way I just don't get them to look the same in both halves AnneB: I have found that one trick is to make the thread shorter than you think it should be Cynthia: a lot shorter or just a little? AnneB: Hm, enough shorter - I guess? LOL Cynthia: okay I earned that one! lol AnneB: It depends on the length of the chain. Cynthia: sorry kind of like asking someone with a broken wrist what they can't do--bend it...lol AnneB: LOL I'm getting better at judging the length of the thread, but can't explain how I'm thinking - yet Cynthia: that's OK I can ask really stupid...dumb questions...at least you can't see me blush! Cynthia: lol lol lol Cynthia: some things you just have to learn for yourself AnneB: Well, few questions are dumb if you don't know the ansver Cynthia: true but they can be stupid.... Cynthia: no brainers I guess that could also be...or failure to think... AnneB: Failure to think happens Cynthia: thank you for understanding.... AnneB: I some times have studens (visiting the Science centre I work at) asking what to do next. AnneB: Their questions are sometimes "no thinkers" Cynthia: Beth has class at 6--2 1/2 hrs from now so I'm going to have to get the dishes done and get dinner Cynthia: all of su do those occasionally often from lack of knowledge of what or how to do something AnneB: The prof is that when asked "what did I tell you to do?", they know the answer - argh! Cynthia: that is the way it goes...my kids call them brain farts....flatulence AnneB: LOL - disconneced CPUs is my thinking Cynthia: not as polite but funny...I like the disconnected CPU better...I'll remember that next time I do it...lol AnneB: Hope you'r computerproblems are of the easilly fixed version this time. See you in a week - unless I'm home early(er than 22) and can cath up at the last part of the beginners class Cynthia: like the eye dee ten t problem...I D 10 T (also IDIOT) AnneB: LOL Cynthia: Peace and by I'm now laughing at myself....bye and hugs AnneB: Bye and hugs! AnneB from x.x.x.64 left the chat 4 hours ago ffh from x.x.x.52 left this message 4 hours ago: ...Oo.... becky from x.x.x.193 joined the chat 101 minutes ago Margaret from x.x.x.82 joined the chat 98 minutes ago Margaret: hello, all Margaret: are you here, Becky? becky: yah checking out a web site AKTATTER from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 91 minutes ago AKTATTER: hello there becky: hello AKTATTER: Welcome to the evening session March 30, 2009 needle tatting AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP IL USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM becky: Ak can you get me info on this virus an april 1 AKTATTER: YES JUST A MINUTE becky: Becky Tyler Temple ME thesportsmanswife@hotmail.com AKTATTER: http://confickerinfo.com/conficker-prevention/ becky: Ok thanks AKTATTER: MARGARET? ANY QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT/ Sherong from x.x.x.118 joined the chat 88 minutes ago AKTATTER: WELCOME SHERON Sherong: Hi all becky: How do you do a split chain?? AKTATTER: OK THEN INTHE LAST 3 WEEKS Margaret: hi, Georgia AKTATTER: WE HAVE STUDIED THE BASIC METHOD OF WRAPPING THE DS cat2tat from x.x.x.91 joined the chat 87 minutes ago cat2tat: Hi everyone! AKTATTER: FORMING A RING FROM A CUT TRHREAD AND A RING FROM A BALL THREAD cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA AKTATTER: HI THERE CATHY, HEY CHECK OUT THE MAIN INEX PAGE TONIGHT :) Paule from x.x.x.87 joined the chat 86 minutes ago Margaret: Margaret I. Boos, London, ON, Canada, maggiep54@sympatico.ca Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotron.ca AKTATTER: FORMING A CHAIN, MAKING PICOTS, DOING A SPLIT RING AND A SPLIT CHAIN ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Mar 31 01:32:32 2009 GMT (165 KB) Page 3 of 4 - Char 102463 to 153615 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER: OK BECKY WE CAN REPEAT THE SPLIT CHAIN PART AGAIN AKTATTER: WELCOME PAULE AND THANK YOU ;) cat2tat: ok becky: if it is easier just send me to the site AKTATTER: ON THE NEEDLE TATTING PAGE 2 Paule from x.x.x.243 joined the chat 84 minutes ago AKTATTER from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 83 minutes ago AKTATTER: HICCUP! Paule: Allo everyone AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE LAST TWO PHOTOS AKTATTER: YOU MAKE THE SPLIT CHAIN JUST LIKE A SPLIT RING Margaret: comment ca va, Paule,? AKTATTER: WRAP THE FIRST HALF AKTATTER: THEN TURN THE NEEDLE AROUND, UNTHREAD THE EYE AKTATTER: USE THAT THREAD TO WRAP THE OTHER HALF OF THE CHAIN AKTATTER: AND THEN AKTATTER: STICK THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE THROUGH THE POINT OF ATTACHMENT Margaret: my question on split chains is from the tree pattern AKTATTER: ON ONPHOTO 24 THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE IS INSERTED THROUGH THE PICOT OF THE BLUE RING Marie Smith from x.x.x.92 joined the chat 81 minutes ago Paule: ¨C a va bien Margaret! AKTATTER: ONLY THEN DO YOU RETHREAD THE TAILTHRU THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE AND SLIDE OFF AKTATTER: IS THAT BETTER BECKY? AKTATTER: OK MARGARET YOUR QUESTION IS? Marie Smith: Marie Smith Anderson, SC tattingwithmarie at yahoo Paule: I'm lost! AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIE Marie Smith: Thanks AKTATTER: PAULE THIS IS THE NEEDLE TATTING SESSION AND THEY ARE ASKING HOW TO KMAKE A SPLIT CHAIN ON THE NEEDLE becky: ok becky: I guess I slept though it the first time Winkerbill from x.x.x.52 joined the chat 80 minutes ago Paule: I want to learn needle tatting! Winkerbill: hi...sorry i'm late cat2tat: Hi Steph! Winkerbill: hi Catyy Winkerbill: Cathy Winkerbill: hi Marie AKTATTER: GREAT PAULE THE NEEDLE TATTIGN BASIC S BEGIN AGAIN IN APRIL AKTATTER: WELCOME STEPH Winkerbill: do I need to sign in yet? AKTATTER: IT IS EASIER THAN YOU THINK BECKY Marie Smith: Hey Steph! AKTATTER: ANYTIME IS FINE STEPH becky: split ring are easy so this sound as simple Winkerbill: ok...Stephanie W in western North Carolina USA Winkerbill: :-) AKTATTER: OK WHILE WE ARE WAITING FOR MARGARET'S QUESTION AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/throw2.html AKTATTER: WE DID MENTIONTHE FLOATING RING BEFORE BUT LET;S STUDY IT A BIT MORE Margaret: Georgia, next week Rita is teaching the ladies in my smocking guild the beginning basics of needle tatting. When should I tell them that the online needle classes start? We have our smoking meetings the second Monday evening of every month AKTATTER: THE EASIEST WAY IS TO HAVE TWO NEEDLES THE SAME SIZE AKTATTER: APRIL 6 WE BEGIN WITH THE BASIC AGAIN Winkerbill: good excuse ....I need to tell DH I HAVE to have another set, right? ;-) Margaret: my question: in that tree, around the split chains, two split rings had to be done. Is this the situation every time I want to make a split chain or was that just this pattern? AKTATTER: IT WILL DEPEND ON EACH PATTERN MARGARET Margaret: April 6 is next week when the smocking guild is having Rita teach in person AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE CLIMBING FROM A SP[LIT CHAIN INTO THE NEXT ROUND WHICH IS ALL CHAINS YOU WOULD NOT NEED A SPLIT RING Margaret: I haven't located Katia's pattern, but it said 10 ds split chain, 8, etc. AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU WERE CLIMBING INTO A ROUND AT A POINT WHERE A RING WOULD BE JOINED THEN YOU WOULD NEED A SPLIT RING Margaret: how do you do that, -- like where do you insert the needle backwards? AKTATTER: OK TO MAKETHE SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: WRAP THE FIRST HALF OGFTHE CHAIN NORMAL Margaret: I have Katia's fan pattern printed off -- just don't know where the paper is AKTATTER: TURN THE NEEDLE AROUND AND UNTHREAD THE EYE AKTATTER: USE THAT TAIL TO WRAP THE OTHER HALF OF THE CHAIN AKTATTER: THEN AKTATTER: TURN THE NEEDLE BACK TO THE PROPER POSITION AKTATTER: TAKE THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE AKTATTER: AND PUT IT THRU THE PLACE OF ATTACHMENT AKTATTER: THEN RETHREAD THE NEEDLE AND SLIDE THE DS OFF AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT THE BASICS PG 2 THE LAST PHOTO Margaret: so when the needle is put thru the pt. of attachment, it is facing in the 'normal' position? AKTATTER: THE SPLIT CHAIN ISIN BLACK AKTATTER: THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE IS PUT THRU THE PICOT ON THE BLUE RING AKTATTER: EXACTLY RIGHT MARGARET! Winkerbill: k AKTATTER: OK BACK TO THE FLOATING RING AKTATTER: TWO NEEDLE S IS BEST Margaret: Goergia, do you have the link handy for that basics, pg 2? AKTATTER: OTHERWISE YOU NEED TO UNTHREAD THE NEEDLE EVERYTIME YOU WANT TO THROW OFF FLOATING RING Paule: Tree? what tree? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/nt/needletattingbasicspt2.html Margaret: it was in the beginning tatters lesson 5 Margaret: a link for needle tatters to learn split chain Norag from x.x.x.140 joined the chat 71 minutes ago AKTATTER: http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=splitrings&action=display&thread=7 Marie Smith: Hi Elnora Norag: hi all! ! AKTATTER: rOGER'S TREE WITHSPLIT RING AND SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: WELCOME ELNORA AKTATTER: SO LOOK AGAIN AT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/throw2.html AKTATTER: THERE ARE TWO REGULAR RINGS WITH A CHAIN BETWEEN THEM Norag: this is needle tatting now? Winkerbill: k AKTATTER: BUT THE CHAIN HAS A RING ON THE BOTTOME OF THE LINE OF PROGRESSION , FACING THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION FROM THE NORMAL RINGS AKTATTER: YES NEEDLE TATTING FOR A FEW MORE MINUTES Norag: yep it si AKTATTER: SO TAKE UP THE ALL THREAD Winkerbill: hehehehe...unless you're a delinquent like me, then you're "listening" to needle tatting, but tatting like mad with a shuttle t the same time.... Winkerbill: <wicked grin> Margaret: Georgia, I looked at that page 2 AKTATTER: THEBALL THREAD AND THREAD THAT THRU THE SECOND NEEDLE AKTATTER: OK MARGARET cat2tat: me too Steph! Margaret: in frame 19, (split ring) the eye stays on the same side as for the first half? AKTATTER: USE THAT BALL THREAD ALSO CALLED THE AUXILIARY THREAD Norag: I lost my tating bag a couple weeks ago Winkerbill: and you cant' send me to the corner, because I'm already IN the corner. :-) AKTATTER: TO MAKE THE RING AKTATTER: OH THAT IS AWFUL ELNORA Norag: no one has phoned that they found it AKTATTER: THIS RING WILL CLOSE AUTOMATICALLY Winkerbill: that's terrible! I'd rather lose my daytimer than my tatting! Norag: i feel the same becky: I lost my needles to the puppies I know how you feel cat2tat: me too! Paule: A ring that closes automatically???? AKTATTER: NO MARGARET TO MAKE THE SPLIT RING YOU UNTHREAD THE NEEDLE TURN TO THEOPPOSITE WAY, WRAP THE DS TURN BACK TO NORMAL THEN RETHREAD THE NEEDLE Margaret: I attended a retreat on the weekend and lost the magnet back of my brooch magnet to hold my pins and needles AKTATTER: YES LIKE A RING MADE FROM A CUT PIEC E OF THREAD DOES Margaret: then, Georgia, I suggest to look at picture 19 again Norag: Just have to pick up and go on Winkerbill: We had just left town on a long trip.....several hours one way....and I couldn't find my tatting....Was ready to plead that we turn around and go back for it...and we were already running tight on time, because of traffic. Winkerbill: I was frantic....then DH said "did you look in your dress?" Winkerbill: ummm...I had dropped the shuttles and ball down my cleavage ....no pocket in my clothes....while I was fastening my seat belt.\ Margaret: Georgia, the words say that but the picture doesn't Winkerbill: :-) Marie Smith: Hahahaha, Steph! AKTATTER: PHOTO 19 SHOWS THE COMPLETELY WRAPPED SPLIT RING JUST BEFORE THE TAIL IS RETHREADED THRU THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE SEE IT DANGLING? cat2tat: LOL Norag: gee that's great ha ha Margaret: so that is after you have turned the needle back around? AKTATTER: i DID THAT ONCE OR TWICE STEPH BUT ONE TIME i WAS USING A POINTY CLOVER AND OUCH THAT WAS THE END OF THAT AKTATTER: RIGHT MARGARET Winkerbill: those clovers do tend to bite at times.... Winkerbill: :-) AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FLOATING RING? Paule: Which one? right? left? Marie Smith: I make sure I have pockets Norag: k Margaret: I know how to tat split rings -- just confused by the picture AKTATTER: LEFT Margaret: I wasn Margaret: 't paying attention to floating rings -- have to catch it next time AKTATTER: ONCE YOU GET THE BASICS DOWN IT IS NOT HARD erinintenn from x.x.x.100 joined the chat 62 minutes ago AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESITONS ON NEEDLE TATTING TRONIGHT erinintenn: Howdy, all! Marie Smith: Erin! Margaret: won't be here next week as I will be at smocking guild meeting where Rita Cochrane is teaching the ladies how to needle tat Cynthia from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 62 minutes ago Cynthia: Hi everyone erinintenn: Oh, Margaret! Send our best to Rita! Marie Smith: Cynthia! Paule: Where is the tree pattern? Elizabeth (S2T) from x.x.x.30 joined the chat 61 minutes ago AKTATTER: THATS GREAT MARGARET SAY HIFOR ME! Margaret: hopefully, lots of new needle tatters for this class when not at smocking meetings Winkerbill: hi Erin, Cynthia AKTATTER: WELCOME CYNTHIA Margaret: who shall I say is saying hello? AKTATTER: http://needletatting.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=splitrings&action=display&thread=7 Margaret: hi, Cynthia, I see your computer is working now AKTATTER: IT IS ROGER'S CHRISTMAS TREE PATTERN PAULE Winkerbill: Margaret tell her hi from me.... AKTATTER: << AKTATTER Paule: You have to register right? AKTATTER: ERINSO GLAD TO SEE YOU Norag: it's nice tp hear smoking is still around erinintenn: Thanks, Georgiabelle! Cynthia: so far so good....tonight...I didn't turn it off yet.... AKTATTER: YES PLEASE DO IT IS FULL OF GREAT INFO AND HE HAS A SHUTTLE TATTING SITE TOO Norag: smocking Margaret: ok, list for hello to Rita -- so far, Georgia, Steph, Cynthia, and what is your name erinintenn? erinintenn: Erin Holloway Paule: Getting ready to smock a dress for my gand daughter AKTATTER: OK WELCOME TO THE EVENING SESSION OF THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS REGULAR CLASS MARCH 30, 2009 Paule: Where can I get information? AKTATTER: PLEASE BE AWARE THAT THE SPECIAL EVENT FOR INTERNATIONAL TATTING DAY IS POSTPONED UNTIL APRIL 8 Cynthia: you could say everyone who wishes they could be there but aren't...lol Margaret: I must finish my bonnet for next Monday as they will be given to all new babies at our nearby hospital that we support with smocked gowns for NICU that are born on Mother's Day AKTATTER: THE INFO ONTHE CUSSED CONFICKERc VIRUS AKTATTER: http://confickerinfo.com/conficker-prevention/ AKTATTER: JUST BE SURE TO UPDATE YOUR VIRUS PROTECTION PROGRAMS Margaret: looks to me like we are going into advanced class time so au revoir Marie Smith: Are we safe if we leave the computer off? AKTATTER: OK OUR FIRST PATTERN TONIGHT Margaret: Georgia, I don't know how to do that AKTATTER: IS A NEEDLE TATTING PATTERN MARGARET erinintenn: Good evening, Margaret! Margaret: hi, Ering erinintenn: Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! AKTATTER: JUST DON'T GO ONLINE WEDNESDAY THEN MARGARET Margaret: sorry for wrong spelling (typo) AKTATTER: I HOPE SO MARIE erinintenn: I meant, "Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Needle tatting!" LOL! Cynthia: you can do it Margaret....I know you can...it is a fun pattern Sherong: If it's on your puter and it is activated then the next time you turn the puter on it will activate Margaret: so I should hang around for a few minutes? AKTATTER: OK FIRST UP THE IS CUTE PAPERCLIP PATTERN FOR APRIL BY ELLEN LAI AKTATTER: WELL AS YOU KNOW, ERIN :) Sherong: It's been spreading for a while now erinintenn: If you don't watch it, Georgia will chase you with that long needle. Marie Smith: Erin, we are having fun! AKTATTER: ALL PATTERNS CAN BE TATTED WITH EITHER THE SHUTTLE, OR THE NEEDLE Sherong: Even large company systems are infected Cynthia: if you can...sorry I missed your message Margaret AKTATTER: OR THE NEEDLE USED AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE erinintenn: OH, NO! Marie has crossed over to the dark side! AKTATTER: OR IN CRO-TATTING AKTATTER: OR EVEN IN JAPANESE HOOK TATTING! Margaret: I will have to go find a paper clip brb AKTATTER: THE METHOD IS UP TO YOU Katie Verna from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 56 minutes ago erinintenn: Not the hook! Katie Verna: Hi, tatters. AKTATTER: JUST USE YOPUR PREFERRED METHOD AND TAT IT! Sherong: Good for yarn AKTATTER: THE HOOK THE HOOK BRING ON THE HOOK! Margaret: I would like to learn cro-tatting too as I do so much crocheting Marie Smith: Really better than I thought it would be Winkerbill: hi Katie AKTATTER: OK PLEASE LOOK AT THE BASKET becky: paperclip patters where are these Paule: Allo Katie Margaret: before I go to search for that clip, what size am I looking for? AKTATTER: IN THE PHOTO WHAT DO YOU NOTICE DIFFERENT ABOUT EACH BASKET? Marie Smith: Hey Katie! Katie Verna: Hi, you fine folk!! AKTATTER: ANY SIZE MARGERT IS OK Margaret: going Sherong: Index page, click month over picture AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ellenpclips19d_spring.pdf AKTATTER: WELCOME KATIE, HOW IS THAT LITTLE HEARTBREAKER? Sherong: Different handles I think Elizabeth (S2T): k AKTATTER: YES! THE HANDLES ARE DIFFERENT becky: oh those are cute Katie Verna: still breakin' hearts, mine anyway! AKTATTER: THE FIRST HANDLE IS A REGULAR TATTED CHAIN AKTATTER: THE OTHERS ARE EACH DIFFERFENT Sherong: Different types of tatted chains Marie Smith: How cute that is! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/gazeboposts.jpg AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THESE SIX SAMPLES AKTATTER: THE SECOND BASKET FROM THE RIGHT LOOKS TO ME Margaret: which link should I click onto? Winkerbill: k Mimi from x.x.x.11 joined the chat 53 minutes ago Winkerbill: hi Mimi! Norag: k Margaret: hi, MIMI AKTATTER: LIKE IT MIGHT BE VICTORIAN SETS? HARD TO SEE Katie Verna: hi, Mimi! Sherong: Spiral chain, rick rack or victorian sets are two AKTATTER: WELCOME MIMI Cynthia: the gazeboposts.jpg Margaret Mimi: good evening! Cynthia: Hi Mimi AKTATTER: THEBASKET ON THE FAR LEFT Marie Smith: Looks like 4/4 sets Sherong: Other looks like lock stitch chain Marie Smith: chain or BDS AKTATTER: LOOKS LKE AN S CHAIN BUT IT IS HARD TO SEE AKTATTER: THIS WOULD BE AN EXCELLENT PLACE TO PRACTICE THE BDS celticdreamweaver from x.x.x.244 joined the chat 51 minutes ago Cynthia: I agree Marie....that is what I thought it might be or could be AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthplongringchains.pdf becky: Marie what are BDS? Winkerbill: hi Sherry AKTATTER: SHERRY HOW NICE TO SEE YOU HERE Cynthia: Balanced Double Stitches Marie Smith: balanced double stitch AKTATTER: THAT IS THE LESSON FOR THE BDS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthplongringchains.pdf Katie Verna: hey, Sherry! AKTATTER: O THIS GIVE US OPTIONS ON HOW TO TAT THE CHAIN Cynthia: look at the link...it is easier to do than you think Paule: Allo Sherry! Cynthia: lots of options... AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK ONCE MORE AT THE SECOND AND THIRDS SAMPLES FROM THE TOP AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/gazeboposts.jpg Paule: I think the BDS would br stiffer... AKTATTER: THE SECOND OPTION IS THE S CHAIN AND IT IS MADE WITH THE4 FIRST HALF STITCH ONLY becky: thanks AKTATTER: THE THIRD OPTION IS THE Z CHAIN AND IT IS MADE WITH THE SECOND HALF STITCH ONLY AKTATTER: SO AS WE BEGIN THE HANDLE PLEASE THINK OF IT AS A HORSESHOE SHAPE NOT A CIRCLE Katie Verna: k AKTATTER: THE OPEN END OF THE HORSESHOE = AKTATTER: THE FLAT EDGE OF THE BASKET RIM Margaret: l AKTATTER: THE CHAIN BEGINS WITH A STARTER PICOT Margaret: sorry, Georgia, and Cynthia, I am leaving. Cynthia, if you are on IM in about one hour, how about a chat? AKTATTER: YOU MIGHT WANT TO PUT A CLIPON IT SO THAT IT IS NOT LOST IN THE CHAIN Cynthia: ok AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT MARGARET Norag: k Winkerbill: k AKTATTER: CHAIN AROUND Margaret: thanks Margaret from x.x.x.82 left the chat 46 minutes ago AKTATTER: NOW TO MAKE THIS EASIER TO FOLLOW AKTATTER: TURN THE DIAGRAM SO THAT THE GREEN PAPER CLIP IS AT THE TOP AKTATTER: NOW IT KINDS LOOKS LIKE A CURLY-HEADED SMILEY FACE WITHOUT THE SMILE ? becky: How do you do a starter picot?? celticdreamweaver: Hi everybody Cynthia: sneaky trick...I didn't think of that....and wes it does Winkerbill: hi Sherry erinintenn: Hi, Sherry! celticdreamweaver: I am fixing a yecky dinner right now celticdreamweaver: can junk and a toast cheese sandwich Cynthia: sounds good to me.... AKTATTER: TAT THE FIRST HALF STITCH OF THE CHAIN DO NOT CLOSE AKTATTER: TAT THE FIRST HALF STITCH OF THE CHAIN DO NOT CLOSE AKTATTER: PUT ON A SPACE HOLDER LIKE A SAFETY PIN PAPERCLIP OR TIE ON A THREAD AKTATTER: ANYTHING TO KEEP THE SPACE OPEN A TIINY BIT AKTATTER: MAKE THE SECOND HS AND CONTINUE TO CHAIN AKTATTER: OK THE FACE AKTATTER: THOSE 5 RINGS ARE THE HAIR ON THE FACE Winkerbill: k Norag: k AKTATTER: THE CHAIN BEGINS AT THE RIGHT HAND SIDE NEXT TO WHERE THE RING ON THE FAR RIGHT WILL BE LATER Cynthia: k becky: k AKTATTER: CHAIN AROUND TO THE LEFT SIDE UNTILYOU REACH THE FIRST RING ON THE LEFT AKTATTER: TAT THAT FIRST RING AKTATTER: LEAVE NO SPACE AKTATTER: TAT THE SECOND RING AKTATTER: CHAIN 6 AKTATTER: TAT ONE RING AKTATTER: CHAIN 6 AKTATTER: TAT THE 4TH RING AKTATTER: LEAVE NO SPACE AKTATTER: JOIN TO THE STARTED PICOT AKTATTER: STARTER PICOT AKTATTER: THEN MAKE A SPLIT RING Winkerbill: brb Katie Verna: k becky: k AKTATTER: THIS EXITS TO THE BOTTOM OF THE BASKET becky: :) AKTATTER: AND YO U CHAIN ACROSS JOINING TO EACH RING ADN TOTHE PAPPER CLIP AKTATTER: OK??? Winkerbill: got it! Elizabeth (S2T): ok becky: k :-) cat2tat: ok AKTATTER: OK GREAT becky: is it as easy as youmake it sound Cynthia: kmakes sense...I thought you missed the join to paperclip...lol silly me AKTATTER: NOW THE LITTLE FLOWERS ARE JUST ONE RING WITH LOTS OF PICOT Cynthia: yes becky it is AKTATTER: GOOD WAY TO TAT OFF ENDS OF THREAD AKTATTER: WELL YOU KEEP AN EYE OUT CYN WHO KNOWS WHAT I MIGHT MISS? Mimi: excellent use for variegated thread too AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS? AKTATTER: OK YES MIMI GOOD SUGGESTION Paule: Glue the flowers on? AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO ELLEN LAI FOR SHARING ANOTHER WHIMSICAL DECORATION WITH US AKTATTER: SURE YOU CAN GLUE THEM ON Cynthia: recommend a glue? AKTATTER: OR YOU COULD ENCAP SULATE THEM IN THE CHAINS celticdreamweaver: Anybody here going to be at Hector, NY tatting event becky: can you attatch them while you are tatting them?? becky: I hate glue!!!! erinintenn: Alene's tacky glue doesn't seem to yellow. AKTATTER: RIGHT BECKY LOOK AT THJIS FOR IDEAS Cynthia: my thoughts too becky use the magic thread trick... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/encap/encap.html Cynthia: or be bancy and use encapsulation... Sherong: Elmers or a white school glue Cynthia: fancy that should have been...sorry Paule: Are you going to Hector Sherry? AKTATTER: OR USE A CORE THREAD THAT IS VARIEGATED AND DO THE SLT WHEN NEEDED celticdreamweaver: yes AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE PATTERN FOR AN EDGING OR BOOKMARK FROM SUZANNE FOUCHE Paule: Am jalous... Cannot go... Cynthia: me too Paule celticdreamweaver: I live an hour and fifteen minutes from Hector AKTATTER: LOOKING AT THE TWO PHOTOS HERE Paule: you luccky AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/safoucheedging.html AKTATTER: HOW MANY PATTERNS ARE NEEDED FOR THESE MOTIVES? becky: These look like fun becky: 2 Winkerbill: k Paule: 2 AKTATTER: EVERYONE AGREE? 2? Cynthia: yes erinintenn: Very fancy. Winkerbill: y cat2tat: yes becky: k AKTATTER: WELL YOU ARE RIGHT, IT IS THE MANNER IN WHICH THE TWO COLORS AND TWO MOTIFS ARE COMBINED THAT CREATE THE MANY DIFFERENT LOOKS Norag: k AKTATTER: THIS IS AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE CONSIDERED CLASSIC CELTIC STYLE TATTING Phyllis from x.x.x.4 joined the chat 32 minutes ago AKTATTER: ONE MOTIF WITH HOLES AKTATTER: ONE MOTIF WITH POINTS AKTATTER: PUT THE POINTS THRU THE HOLES AKTATTER: AND A THIRD ROUND OF TATTING "SEWS" THEM ALTOGETHER Winkerbill: since this looks like it's more or less "reversible" you wouldn't want to do frontside/backside tatting for this, would you? AKTATTER: WELCOME PHYLLIS Phyllis: hi! Norag: think I'll go now. Thanks so much Georgia and goodnite to all Paule: Good patttern to carry around to the dentist... AKTATTER: IN THIS CASE IT WOUL DNOT MATTER Winkerbill: hi Phyllis Winkerbill: night Nora AKTATTER: DO YOU RECALL THIS CLASSIC CELTIC STYLE PATTERN? AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT ELNORA AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/essceltic.htm Norag: may god hold you in the palm of his hand AKTATTER: THANKS ELNORA BLESS YOU erinintenn: Gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa! Do not try this the first time in #80 thread. Phyllis: LOL erinintenn: It's like flying without a net. becky: what is the frontside/back \side tatting' Paule: Good Lord!!! AKTATTER: THIS LOOKS MORE COMPLICATED BUT THE PRINCIPLE IS THE SAME AKTATTER: BECKY TRADITIONALLY TATTING WAS DONE WITH THE RINGS RIGHT SIDE UP AKTATTER: AND TEH CHAINS WERE BACK SIDE UP AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU BEGIN THE CHAINS WITH THE SECOND HS INSTEAD OF THE FIRST HS AKTATTER: THEN BOTH SIDES WOULD LOOK FRONT SIDE UP becky: k AKTATTER: IT IS A MATTER OF PERSONAL CHOICE OF COURSE Sherong: all stitches, chains and rings, have waistbands on the same side of the work AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE PATTERN FOR THIS BOOKMARK AKTATTER: IF YOU PRINTED EARLY PLEASE BE AWARE THAT MARIA FOUND AN ERROR AKTATTER: THE CHAINS SHOULD READ: CH 4 - 2 - 2 - 4 AKTATTER: MAKE A NOTE ON THE PRINTED COPY IF YOU NEED TO AKTATTER: QUESTIONS SO FAR?? Winkerbill: i think i'm ok so far.... Marie Smith: no AKTATTER: OK cat2tat: no AKTATTER: THE FIRST MOTIF HAS 6 INWARD FACING RINGS JOINED TOGETHER WITH CHAINS ON THE OUSIDE AKTATTER: THAT CREATES THE"HOLES" AKTATTER: THE SECOND MOTIF HAS 6 RINGS UNJOINED FACING OUTWARD AND THE CHAINS ARE ON THE INSIDE AKTATTER: THOSE OUTWARD FACING RINGS CREATE THE "POINTS" AKTATTER: PUT THE POINTS THRU THE HOLES AKTATTER: THEN YOU CHAIN AROUNS TH E THEENTIRE THING Cynthia: Georgia I've had some questions about getting the "Points" can you talk us thru it? AKTATTER: YOU CAN JOIN TWO MPOTIFS AT ONE CORNER ANDMAKE IT EASY AKTATTER: THE POINTS, AKTATTER: PICTURE A SNOWFLAKE Cynthia: I know how but some others may be having trouble AKTATTER: A CLASSIC SNOWFLAKE HAS 6 ARMS AKTATTER: EACH ARM = A POINT AKTATTER: NOW PICTURE A RING AT THE END OF THE SNOWFLAKE'S ARM AKTATTER: THE RING = THE POINT AKTATTER: DOE THAT HELP? Cynthia: Eliz are you still here? becky: k Elizabeth (S2T): yes Winkerbill: sorry....brb.... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/maltesesnowflake.html Cynthia: thanks AK I like the snowflake analogy...I'll use it...lol AKTATTER: THIS MALTESE SNOWFLAKE IS A PERFECTEXAMPLE Cynthia: Eliz check the maltesesnowflake! AKTATTER: SIX POINTS Yohan23 from x.x.x.120 joined the chat 22 minutes ago celticdreamweaver: I am going to leave now....Please have a nice TAT DAY becky: Help!!!! Barbara from x.x.x.25 joined the chat 22 minutes ago Barbara: hi all AKTATTER: BYE SHERRY AKTATTER: HELLO BARBARA Yohan23: Sorry that I am so late Elizabeth (S2T): very pretty AKTATTER: BECKY WHAT IS IT? Elizabeth (S2T): I dont know how I got it to work C, but it did, LOL AKTATTER: WELCOME YOHAN Cynthia: bye sherry drive careful,,,, AKTATTER: JUST GLAD YO UMADE IT Elizabeth (S2T): now I want to do it all kinds of color combos! AKTATTER: LATECOMERS BE SURE TO SSIGNING PLEASE erinintenn: Night, Sherry! AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE PATTERN? becky: Tell me how to do this snowflake?? Winkerbill: nightSherry Barbara: Barbara WPB, FL becky: love it but looks hard AKTATTER: THE MALTESE SNOWFLAKE AKTATTER: LOOK AGAIN AT THE CHAIN SAMPLES BECKY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/gazeboposts.jpg Cynthia: no it isn't...just do 1 stitch at a time and it is easy... AKTATTER: THE LAST TWO FROM THE BOTTOM AKTATTER: ON THE NEEDLE YOU USE TWO THREADS, WRAPPING ONE FROM THE LEFT AND ONE FROM THE RIGHT AKTATTER: WITH TIME YOU CAN WRAP USING BOTH HANDS :) becky: duh!!! :-) AKTATTER: IS YOU DO ONE DS LEFT ON DS RIGHT becky: lol Yohan23: yohan, Santa claus, Indiana, usa Paule: Oh! come now G. Katie Verna: k AKTATTER: YOU GET TEH EFECT SECOND FROM TEH BOTTOM AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU TAT MULTIPLES ON EITHER SIDE AKTATTER: THEN YOU GET THE PICOTS STICKING OUT AKTATTER: HEY PAULE NO JOKE becky: I dont think my sister has found this yet Sherong: Use your third hand to hold the needle AKTATTER: I JUST PUT THE NEEDLE BETWEEN MY BIG TOE AND THE NEXT ONE AND USE MY HANDS TO WRap the threads AKTATTER: ok ok Paule: Well well well... AKTATTER: YES YOU CAN USE A CLAMP OR JUST SWITCHHANDS BACK AND FORTH becky: no thanks ak illl use my third and forth hand AKTATTER: NOW FOR THE NEEDLE TATTER Elizabeth (S2T): lol BJs from x.x.x.141 joined the chat 17 minutes ago AKTATTER: YOU JUST WRAP AWAY AND THEN SLIDE IT OFF TO CLOSE INTO A RING Sherong: Dont use your mouth - you get the stitches wet and it doesn't work well ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Mar 31 01:32:53 2009 GMT (165 KB) Page 4 of 4 - Char 153616 to 169655 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ BJs: bev davis silver city new mexico beloyal1@comcast.net AKTATTER: SHUTTLES TATTERS CAN DO IT AS A SELF-CLSOING MOCK RING BJs: lurking AKTATTER: AKA CHAIN TURNED INTO A RING AKTATTER: OR YOU CAN ALSO DO IT AS ELIZ SHOWS USING TWO SHUTTLES AKTATTER: WELCOME BJ HOW NICE TO SEE YOU HERE erinintenn: Sheron's Tasty Tatting! AKTATTER: LOL AKTATTER: FRO SHUTTLE TATTERS Sherong: Works if you use licorace BJs: :>) Marie Smith: Hey SIS! AKTATTER: HERE IS A NEWER METHOD OF MALTESE OR PEARL TATTING TO TRY BJs: Hey Lil Sis AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/PearlTatting.pdf Winkerbill: hi BJ! erinintenn: Eureka. I have just figured out the BDS. AKTATTER: HOORAY!!!! AKTATTER: IT DOES MAKE A NICE LOOKING DS Yohan23: I have joined the beginning tatting group but I like to see what you big kids are making and making one day I can keep up with you. erinintenn: ;-) AKTATTER: SURE THING YOHAN Cynthia: You can just do it slower.... erinintenn: OH, yeah, Yohan. We're the *big kids*. LOL AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/safoucheedging.html Cynthia: I can;t keep up with them either...lol AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/ellenpclips19d_spring.pdf Paule: Just dive in Yohan AKTATTER: THESE WERE THE LESSONS FOR TODAY Katie Verna: k AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ABOUT THELESSONS? AKTATTER: ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? Yohan23: you are more advanced that me but MJB will help me! Cynthia: Thanks Georgia.... erinintenn: I have a remark. Cynthia: You can ask me too Yohan.... Winkerbill: Thanks Georgia! Katie Verna: Thanks, Georgia! AKTATTER: PLEASE ERIN ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS ARE WELCOME Mimi: Nice patterns erinintenn: I found the niftiest online fabric store. Elizabeth (S2T): ty G! AKTATTER: A NEW NAME TOO SUZANNE FOUCHE cat2tat: thanks Georgia! Yohan23: I will dive in-but I just got home from 5 months in Florida-I am going to start tatting again this week. erinintenn: They have beautiful heirloom fabrics for brides and babies. AKTATTER: OHHH TELL US MORE becky: thanks Georgia AKTATTER: AH MARGARET SHOULD HAVE BEEN HERE FOR THIS erinintenn: Reasonably priced and quick shipping. The grandmother opened it in 1929. AKTATTER: MUST REMEMBER TO TELL HER erinintenn: It has been passed through the family to the daughter. Paule: Yes (drooling...) Yohan23: thanks to all of you that are willing to help me. Cynthia: I'll send her the link... erinintenn: Good eyecandy - not affiliated just a delighted customer. erinintenn: http://www.baltazor.com AKTATTER: BTEW MORE HOMEWORK WAS POSTED TODAY erinintenn: Let's see! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html Winkerbill: that reminds me....did I remember to send you any homework recently - hearts and stuff? Sherong: Remember: I want scans of your public domain tatting patterns and books Marie Smith: Best Wishes, Erin! Winkerbill: I just found a stash from one of my "dogsitting" trips to Mom's house - the shamrock bookmarks.... AKTATTER: THERE ARE 77MORE EMAILS TO GO STEPH IT IS PROBABLY THEREE Paule: Did you buy anything Erin Cynthia: should we send them to you Sheron or Ga? AKTATTER: OH YES i DID GET THAT BUTTERICKS BOOK POSTED erinintenn: Thanks, Marie! Winkerbill: ok...I haven't scanned the shamrocks yet. AKTATTER: AND IF YOU FIND ANY DEAD LINKS LET ME KNOW..THANKS CYN TOO erinintenn: Yes, Paule. Some pima cotton interlock and some cashmere cotton flannel (that really soft stuff). AKTATTER: IF YOU NEED ORIGNALS SCANNED PLEASE SEND TO SHERON Winkerbill: Sheron, I might have a copy of the ....I think it was Neue Schiffchenspitze...did you need it to restore that book to online? AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE SCANNED THEM ALREADY EMAIL TO ME AKTATTER: LET ME LOOK Sherong: Send to me please. I send onto G at Palmettos and also sent to Antique Pattern Library Sherong: Send to both of us please Winkerbill: ok, I"ll look for it. It's probably pretty big.... Cynthia: Ok I think I have your addy Sheron AKTATTER: THAT ONE IS POSTED THANKS sTEPH http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/Neue Schiffchenspitzen.pdf Sherong: Have a copy of everything I sent to G. Went and put them onto a DVD (from lots of CD's). erinintenn: I love the Butterick book, Georgia and Sheron! Thanks so much. AKTATTER: it is an amazing book Sherong: AK: Left a space, won't click like that Winkerbill: ok, thanks. Sherong: Let Georgia know if you find any broken links Sherong: Can't fix if she doesn't know it broken Cynthia: lol erinintenn: Ah - admitting the problem is half the battle.... AKTATTER: ok last call http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/NeueSchiffchenspitzen.pdf erinintenn: Woohoo! Now that is a unique book. erinintenn: I thought it was very Art Deco. AKTATTER: yes and I do not know why the photos just quit showing up sometimes too? they are there is the file but not on the screen, oh I have so much to learn AKTATTER: don't forgfet to update your viruws protection Winkerbill: Georgia - page 8 in that book....did I remember to send you samples and the translation/my "take" on that pattern? AKTATTER: special event postponed until april 8 AKTATTER: YES!!! THE YELLOW AND BROWN PIECES I HAVE THEM RIGHT HERE erinintenn: That's the International Tat Day Special Event? AKTATTER: WE SHOULD DO THEM IN CLASS Elizabeth (S2T): G, the college here is saying that the updates may not help? what have you heard differently? Sherong: Got taught a new way to send files AKTATTER: RIGHT ERIN Sherong: Use Skype Winkerbill: so much going on....having to get Dad into a care facility.....needing to find a place closer to home than where he is now.... sigh.... Katie Verna: k Cynthia: Beginners on Thursday at 3 and 9 Eastern...we can always use helpers.... AKTATTER: THAT IT IS BEST TO JUST STAY OFFLINE WED AKTATTER: SPANISH SPEAKING TATTING CLASS ON SUNDAY 3PM ET Winkerbill: Just wednesday? We're ok tomorrow and Thursday? that's weird.... Elizabeth (S2T): yea, they are closing completely for Wed AKTATTER: APRIL 1 IS THE DAY ITIS SUPPOSED TOACTIVATE erinintenn: April 1 is the "detonation" day. AKTATTER: CONFICKER C Cynthia: it is a BAD joke AKTATTER: http://confickerinfo.com/conficker-prevention/ Sherong: Nothing known for sure last I heard. They just think it's set to go off April 1 Winkerbill: oh....wonder if you could just change the date on your pc....confuse the virus Elizabeth (S2T): lol Paule: Sheron use Skype? AKTATTER: HMM WOULD IT SET IT OFF EARLY? erinintenn: Depends on how the virus is constructed. Sherong: Yes, as of this weekend AKTATTER: BTW A SPECIAL THANKS TO THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SUPPORTED THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS THIS WEEK. Winkerbill: you can send files using Skype? Elizabeth (S2T): Microsoft offered $250,000 for information leading to the arrest and conviction of hte person behind it all AKTATTER: IT IS GREATLY APPRECIATED AKTATTER: OK THEN THAT'S ALL FOR TONIGHT erinintenn: Hey, Georgia - there's our ticket! AKTATTER: MANY THANKS FOR STOPPING BYW Elizabeth (S2T): lol Cynthia: if we get it the class is endowed! and endowed chair Elizabeth (S2T): Have a great night G! AKTATTER: THANKS TO ELLEN AND SUZANNE FOR SHARING THEIR WORK erinintenn: Goodnight, ladies! Georgia, thanks so much, and everyone who contributed lesson things! AKTATTER: BE SURE TO SEE ANNE' NEWVIDEO AKTATTER: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gZxm_PDxjc ON THE FOLDED JOIN AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT ALL AND HAPPY TATTING Cynthia: an awesome way to do folded join...so easy AKTATTER from x.x.x.12 left the chat 102 seconds ago Katie Verna: Thanks, Georgia and everyone! Cynthia: bye and Peace everyone.... cat2tat: Good Night All! Elizabeth (S2T): nite all Winkerbill: night everyone Winkerbill from x.x.x.52 left the chat 68 seconds ago Marie Smith: Nite all! Paule: Sheron still there? Sherong: With Skype I sent a 150 mb file in one pass. Sherong: Yes I'm still here Paule Paule: I know nothing of Skype ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com