The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Feb 10 02:47:44 2009 GMT (106 KB) Page 1 of 3 - Char 1 to 51250 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 cleared the room 6 hours ago AKTATTER: not so scary now is it? Krystledawne: That gets me every time AKTATTER: lol raelara: I could enhance the pics, photoshop does really well with things like that AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN katie Verna/occhitat: easy to play catch up on a blank screen Cynthia: Hi and not so scary when we know what is hapening....lol first time I about paniced Bob: I'm glad you warned us first! Norag: well, hope I made it this time AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AnneB: no - but I did not get to calculate from inch to cm...was it 11x17? Krystledawne: Krystle Pyette, Puyallup WA USA krystledawne@gmail.com Linda-S: Linda Harrington, l_m_harrington@yahoo.com, Largo, MD AKTATTER: WELCOM ONE AND ALL cat2tat: Cathy Pickett, Rich Creek, VA, USA Bob: Bib Kishen, Edinburgh, UK katie Verna/occhitat: Katie Verna katie@r-v-r.com Creedmoor NC Yohan23: Joanne Hayes, Santa Claus, IN, USA Linda-S: hi AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway AKTATTER: FEB. 9, 2009 raelara: Jenni Sherriff raelara@gmail.com San Lorenzo, CA USA MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham. Santa Claus., Indiana USA Bob: Bob, even. Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson brasthatfit@yahoo.com Stillwater OK USA AKTATTER: KRYSTLE YOUR FANCY PAPERCLIPS HAVE BEEN THE TALK OF THE INTERNET Justina: Justina Richie Grafton, WV justinaknits@verizon.net Norag: Elnora Garcia,ceg43@comcast.net, Danville, Va. Krystledawne: AnneB I'm working on your pink and green triangle motif doiley! AKTATTER: I HOPETHAT EVERYONE HAS HAD A LOOK AT THE NEW HOMEOWRK POSTED Krystledawne: I love the pattern Marie Smith: marie smith, anderson, sc - usa raelara: Is there more than just the heart patterns posted? Norag: Hi everyone AKTATTER: JUST POSTED THIS AM AnneB: Thats great Krystle! raelara: I loved doing those heart paperclips, but the links to the others are broken AKTATTER: NO THAT IS THE FIRST PATTERN THE MONTHLY PATTERN POSTS THE NEW PATTERN ON THE LAST MONDAY OF THE MONTH Krystledawne: It was fun to figure out from the picture Cynthia: Did we lose Raven? Norag: The postings of homework pieces are lovely AKTATTER: RAVEN ARE YOU THERE? Raven: ya sorry just watching and learning raelara: ah, that makes sense Cynthia: OK I just didn't want to lose you... AKTATTER: WELCOME TO YOU , WE SIGN INTO CLASS WITH NAMES AND HOMETOWNS AKTATTER: EMAIL IS OPTIONAL Raven: thanks Cynthia AKTATTER: RAVEN JUST JOINED US TODAY Krystledawne: Hi Raven! AKTATTER: ARE THERE OTHER NEW TATTERS HERE TODAY? Krystledawne: Welcome Marie Smith: good to see so many doing the homework Linda-S: Hi Raven MJB: good to have you Raven Raven: oh got it Raven Sacramento Ca raelara: I am new to the class, but not a new tatter AKTATTER: YOU ARE RIGHT MARIE Raven: hi everyone Krystledawne: I'm a bad girl and didn't do any homework last week raelara: I still need to take pics of mine Krystledawne: I'm still Anti-Bead for now Cynthia: lots of us are...lol AKTATTER: RAVEN I USED TO LIVE AT WATT AVE AND MARCONI NEAR THE THEATER COMPLEX AKTATTER: IT IS GOOD ALSO IN THAT IT BRINGS UP SOME QUESTIONS FOR US raelara: the small butterfly took me forever to do last night Marie Smith: I posted one dragon but have done many more that AKTATTER: POSTED THIS AM Marie Smith: did not post Norag: you have been around AK Raven: Cool - now you get the great country living with all that water :( AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html MJB: and more coming AKTATTER: PAULE FROM MONTREAL SENT IN THE INTERLACED PICOTS HEARTS AKTATTER: THAT PATTY DOWDEN SHARED WITH US AKTATTER: SHE SAYS THAT IT IS AWKWARD TO MANAGE THE PICOTS AKTATTER: THE LITTLE PICOT GAUGE THAT PATTY MADE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE IN THEPHOTO THAT pATTY MADE LITTLE NOTCHES ALONG THE TOP OF THE PAPER GAUGE AKTATTER: THOSE NOTCHES CAN CATCH THE PICOTS AND HOLD THEM WHILE YOU ARE WORKING. Bob: k AKTATTER: PAULE ALSO WANTS TO KNOW ABOUT HIDING THE ENDS IN A SINGLE PIECE LIKE THAT MJB: neat ideal AKTATTER: EVEN THO ITI S JUST ONE PIECE AKTATTER: YOU CAN STILL HIDE THE ENDS Cynthia: I'd twist them and make a bookmark.... AKTATTER: DOING THE MAGIC THREAD TRICK LIKE USUAL raelara: I am lazy, I just lock the knot with a dot of fray check and cut the ends short AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/rogers/carnation.html cat2tat: what is the magic thread trick AKTATTER: SURE YOU CAN LEAVE THE TAILS AND MAKE STEMS ETC AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: IF THE TATTING IS TO BE SEWN DOWN TO CLOTH AKTATTER: YOU CAN ALSO PULL THE TAILS THRU THE FABRIC AKTATTER: TO THE BACK AND SECURE IT AKTATTER: OR DEPENDING ON THE SIZE OF THE THREAD AKTATTER: USE IT TO SEW DOWN THE TATTING ITSELF raelara: that's an idea I hadn't thought of before AKTATTER: DID YOU SEE PAULE'S SUPERBOWL SUNDAY SNOWFLAKE? AKTATTER: SHE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE TATTING CUPPING OR BOWLING raelara: I have that happen on a lot of my doilys AKTATTER: SHE HAS BUGLE BEADS PLACED OVER THE JOINS AS THEY WERE MADE AKTATTER: SO AS A CASUAL RULE Norag: Have to say I'm here or off the site I go lol AKTATTER: IF YOU KNOW THAT THE PICOT IS TO BE USED FOR A JOIN AKTATTER: SURE THING ELNORA AKTATTER: FOR THE NEWCOMERS SOMETIMES YOU NEED TO JUST TYPE K AS IN OK AKTATTER: TO LET THE COMPUTER KNOW YOU STILL WANT TO BE HERE Norag: Just sittin and listinin Raven: K AKTATTER: OK THE JOINING PICOTS SHOULD BE JUST A SMIDGEN LARGER katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: THAN THE OTHERS MJB: j AKTATTER: ABOUT 1/3 LARGER AKTATTER: THAT EXTRA ROOM LETS THE PIECE LAT FLAT AKTATTER: LAY FLAT raelara: that makes sense Linda-S: sure does AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY OTHER GENERAL QUESTIONS? Krystledawne: . Norag: k Raven: not here Cynthia: there was a question about the magic thread ...I got lost for a minute did that get answered raelara: are there any easy ways to thread beads on with the beaded double picots? AKTATTER: OK THEN Bob: do you need more volunteers to tatting models for the bocher book? raelara: I can't find a crochet hook small enough to fit through my seed beads AKTATTER: IF YOU WANT BOTH LEGS OF THE DOUBLE PICOT TO HAVE BEADS Krystledawne: use a needle threader AKTATTER: THE MUST BE STRUNG ON THE SHUTTLE AKTATTER: YES BOB cat2tat: What is the magic thread trick? AKTATTER: YOU NEED A SIZE 14, 15, OR 16 jENNI, i SELL THOSE SO EMAIL ME LATER raelara: great. thanks AKTATTER: WHAT WAS THE MAGIC THREAD QUESTION?? raelara: I only have up to size 14 AKTATTER: w.georgiaseitz.com/rogers/carnation.html cat2tat: You mentioned hiding ends using the magic thread trick AKTATTER: oops http://www.georgiaseitz.com/rogers/carnation.html Bob: someone wanted to know what the magic thread trick was. AKTATTER: RIGHT IF YOU INSERT THE HELPING LOOPS Cynthia: it is actually explained in the carnation directions Norag: k AKTATTER: AS SHOWN IN THE DIAGRAMS THERE AKTATTER: AND SHOWN HERE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/drakemt.html raelara: I see it, about halfway down the page cat2tat: thanks Cynthia: sorry I was butting in AK I'll keep my fingers off the keys for a bit Krystledawne: I like Debbie drake method AKTATTER: NO PLEASE KEEP WATCH AKTATTER: WE SOMETIMES CHAT SO FAST i LOSE A QUESTION HERE AND THERE AKTATTER: PLEASE REPEAT YOUR QUESTION ANY TIME AKTATTER: OK ANNOUNCEMENT Bob: are you assigning people models to do, or do we choose ourselves? AKTATTER: SHELLEY HEDBERG HAS HELP ME TO RESTORE THE Norag: k AKTATTER: 2008 LESSONS THAT WERE LOST IN THE FALL AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/2008index.html AKTATTER: IF YOU SEE ANY MISSING LINKS DO PLEASE LET ME KNOW AKTATTER: BOB I AM KEEPING A LIST OF VOLUNTEERS Cynthia: year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! the 2 of your are so tallented!!! AKTATTER: SAVING THE EASIER PATTERNS FOR THE NEWERE TATTERS Cynthia: I missed a few of those.... AKTATTER: I HOPE WE HAVE THEM ALL NOW Lizette from x.x.x.241 joined the chat 6 hours ago Norag: maybe I could try one for you AKTATTER: OK i HAVE ALL THE BOCHER PAGES POSTED AKTATTER: WELCOME LIZETTE AKTATTER: BUT NOT ALL LINKED TO THE PAGE FOR TODAY AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/bocher1912project.html Lizette: Hi AK I guess it logged me out while i was looking at the pages AKTATTER: THANKS ELNORA AKTATTER: JUST TYPE L ONCE IN A WHILE TO KEEP YOUR SEAT IN CLASS Norag: let me know which one and size of thread to use Raven: k katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: WE HAVE VOLUNTEERS FOR PGS 16-48 AKTATTER: AND PGS 233-235 Krystledawne: k Lizette: thanks I know exactly where you used to live...I'm in the Sacto area AKTATTER: GREAT! LIZ THAT MAKES US OLD HOME OFLKS AKTATTER: FOLKS AnneB: I'll take any pages you want me to - but a challenge is more fun ;-) AKTATTER: SO FROM PAGES 49 - 232 ARE OPEN AKTATTER: OK ANNE GOT YOU DOWN ALSO Bob: I'm happy whichever ones you give me. raelara: Give me any pages you have Cynthia: I'll take one AKTATTER: THANKS ALL OF YOU raelara: I don't mind a challenge either Krystledawne: Can we see those pages to choose? AKTATTER: IF WE ACN TAKE A MOMENT Lizette: I only see pages up to 35...is there more? Norag: I have pages 16 thru25 AnneB: Do you want it done exactly as the patterns tell, redone in modern technique or both? AKTATTER: THEY ARE POSTED BUT NOT ALL LINKED TO THE PAGE YET katie Verna/occhitat: k Bob: k AKTATTER: BOTH AND MORE! AKTATTER: WE NEED THE OLD WAY DONE TO PRESERVE IT Justina: I'm not sure what book you are talking about, got here late, but if you have some easy ones, I would be glad to do some. Bob: tee hee! Lizette: k Raven: k AKTATTER: BUT WE NEED A NEW MODEL DONE IN MODERN TECHNIQUES ALSO raelara: k AKTATTER: JUSTINE IS FROM WEST VIRGINA I THINK katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: HOW NICE TO SEE YOU HERE WELCOME AKTATTER: AND WITH THE NEW PIECES SURELY THERE WILL BE BEADED MODELS Justina: Yes, I am in Grafton, WV home of Mother's Day AKTATTER: TWO COLOR MODELS AND SINGLE MOTIFS JOINED FOR A LAREGER PIECE Lizette: back to the tails issue...I learned to make a split ring tail so anything could become a bookmark Cynthia: gives me an idea AK neat more later.... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/bocher1912project.html AKTATTER: THAT IS THE BOOK WE ARE TRYING TO RESTORE ONLINE JUSTINA AKTATTER: OK CYN AKTATTER: TELL US HOW TO DO IT LIZETTE Bob: k Norag: k AnneB: I have a new one for page 28 MJB: j cat2tat: k Raven: k AKTATTER: GREAT ANNE Kate from x.x.x.122 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: OH AND I FORGOT, WE WILL NEED DIAGRAMS OF THE MODELS TOO katie Verna/occhitat: k Kate: Hi all! AKTATTER: DID I SCARE LIZETTE AWAY? Kate: Better late than never? raelara: diagram patterns? Kate: I almost completely forgot again. AKTATTER: WELCOME KATE AT ANY TIME Linda-S: I'm a newbie and I'll do an easy page. Just let me know which one. AKTATTER: YES WE USE DIAGRAMS THES DAYS MORE THAT WRITTEN DIRECTIONS Marie Smith: Hi Kate Justina: Oh, ok, I'm trying to look through the pages, but my computer is messing up for some reason... :-( Bob: no problem. Lizette: my friend taught me to make a small heart with some leftover thread in red...I was left with a tail. I tied on some white and made a chain with red over white and then shoelace tie before tattig in reverse white over red. AKTATTER: THANKS LINDA Linda-S: you are welcome raelara: so, none of the avialable pages are linked yet? AKTATTER: THAT SOUNDS NEAT LIZETTE Linda-S: just don't forget I'm a beginner. :o) AKTATTER: I CAN TYPE SOME OF THE PAGES RIGHT NOW FOR YOU TO CHOOSE FROM AKTATTER: OK GOT IT! AKTATTER: OK HERE IS THE FIRST PART OF THE LINK: AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/bocherdone/1912p016.html" target="blank">Bocher page 16</a><br> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/bocherdone/1912p016.html Lizette: it was really easy you just couldn't pull when doing the reverse of ds. I'll see if my DH can post a pic...he is fluent in geek AKTATTER: THAT WAS PAGE 16 AKTATTER: SO TO GET AT THESE NEWER PAGES WITHOUT LINKS AKTATTER: PLESE DO LIZETTE WE CAN MAKE A LESSON OUT OF IT TO SHRAE Lizette: k AKTATTER: REPLACE THE PART AT THE END Yohan23: j raelara: that makes sense, thanks Bob: k Krystledawne: k AKTATTER: 1912p016.html AKTATTER: WITH THE NEW PAGE Raven from x.x.x.64 joined the chat 6 hours ago AKTATTER: i WILL START WITH PG 150 AKTATTER: THIS INFO WILL BE IN THE LOG THAT IS POSTED AFTER CLASS ALSO AKTATTER: WB RAVEN AKTATTER: OK Raven: my system jumped - thanks katie Verna/occhitat: k Norag: page 23k AKTATTER: 1912p150to152.html AKTATTER: 1912p152to153.html AKTATTER: 1912p154to155.html Cynthia: I'll figure out several and you can let me know Norag: replace with 150 Raven: k raelara: I get page not found AKTATTER: 1912p155to156.html Krystledawne: mee too Bob: me three Cynthia: you need to put the first part in as well and just change the page numbers AKTATTER: OK LET ME GO CHECK MY SPELLING YOU KNOW MY TYUPOES ARE INFAMOUS Lizette: same here Krystledawne: Tyupos...lol Lizette: brain working faster than fingers Lizette: or is it verse visa Bob: my brain never works fast :) Raven: me four Norag: k Lizette: Raven are in the crochet guild AKTATTER: ok I see an error in the link MJB: mine either Krystledawne: Aha AKTATTER: I will go fix it after class raelara: ok Cynthia: ok Krystledawne: Alrighty Bob: k Raven: ya lizette it's me Raven: lol Norag: k cat2tat: k Lizette: I didn't know you tat...em me there is a group of tatters that meet in Sac Lizette: like you have any extra time Raven: really I bn looking and not finding anyone AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/bocherdone/1912p016.html" target="blank">Bocher page 16</a><br> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/bocherdone/1912p150to152.html raelara: any tatters in the SF area? AKTATTER: ok I do not know why it is dispalying all that html stuff sorry katie Verna/occhitat: I've been called to play with my grandson. Maybe I can come back tonight. Bye Lizette: secret society of knot wits Bob: bye katie Raven: ok the second half of that link is not working for me Cynthia: bye and enjou\y MJB: k AnneB: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersbocher1912/bocherdone/1912p016.html Norag: bye katie Lizette: not that I know of but I can check with some bay area friends to see my em is treadle@pacbell.net Raven: thanks Lizette AnneB: Try the one I posted AKTATTER: ok Bob: That ones works, Anne AKTATTER: yep it works raelara: that link works fine, it is when the page numbers are changed that it gives the error Bob: what rae said Krystledawne: k AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersbocher1912/bocherdone/1912p150to155.html Krystledawne: page not found Cynthia: I get error also Raven: ditto AKTATTER: take out the bocherdone Raven: k Norag: i got page 16 Lizette from x.x.x.241 joined the chat 5 hours ago Lizette: links appear to be broken is the message I get AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersbocher1912/1912p150to152.html raelara: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersbocher1912//1912p154to155.html Raven: WB Lizette AKTATTER: that worked Jenni! AKTATTER: there is an extra / tho Bob: Yay! Krystledawne: there it is Norag: just got the 150 page ffrom Ak AKTATTER: ok AKTATTER: let me try some others Lizette: thanks rav! those worked great AKTATTER: 1912p156to157.html raelara: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersbocher1912//1912p150to152.html Norag: and154-155 AKTATTER: 1912p157to163.html AnneB: What about page 153? raelara: It looks like that is the issue, there are two // between roserogersbocher1912 and th page number AKTATTER: 1912p152to153.html Raven: k Krystledawne: they both work for me AKTATTER: 1912p165to168.html Cynthia: got it AnneB: Ah - hiding ends - I tend to be lazy when it comes to that... AKTATTER: so what do you think AKTATTER: everyone see something they can work on ? Cynthia: sure AnneB: Did anybody do page 28? raelara: I'll do 165-168 Cynthia: I'll take 165-168 AKTATTER: you were assigned pg 28 last week Anne Cynthia: I can do what ever.... Justina: Ugh, muscle relaxer is putting me to sleep, will have to come back for the next session. Bob: yes. There are some tricky looking motifs on the later pages. Cynthia: see you later Justina Bob: I could do with a challenge! AKTATTER: take care justine come again Justina: ok Raven: ltr Justina Norag: k Yohan23: I will do more when I have my printer and can print the lessons off Bob: bye Justina raelara: I could do 157 to 163 too AnneB: Oh - I did not realize - I was not present I think? raelara: if cynthia wants 165-168 AKTATTER: ACTUALLY I HAVE A NOTE YOU VOLUNTEERED AnneB: Nice I have done the modern part then :-) Norag: Will all those pages be available to print off for patterns? AKTATTER: BUT MAYEB I "VOLUNTEERED" YOU! AKTATTER: LOL Bob: I'll have a go at 156to157 Cynthia: whatever I'm open to whatever is available.... AnneB: But - I want more - you choose AK AKTATTER: THANKS BOB raelara: take 65-68 AKTATTER: OK RAE 157-163 raelara: I'll do the other page AKTATTER: CYN 165-168 Raven: k Cynthia: Good now I know... AKTATTER: OK ANNE THERE AT ANOTHER 75 PAGES MJB: k Bob: Wow! I ahd no idea there were so many pages. AKTATTER: i WIL FINISH LINKING THEM TODAY THEN WE ALL CAN CHOOSE AKTATTER: 235 PAGES IN ALL Bob: his will keep us out of mischief for a while :) raelara: cool Bob: This AKTATTER: PGS 1-2 ARE HOW TO AKTATTER: THERE IS NO PAGE 13 AKTATTER: PGS 14-235 ARE PATTERNS AKTATTER: AND A FEW HOW-TOS ALSO AKTATTER: IN FACT raelara: lol at the superstition behind page 13 Krystledawne: I need to go folks. It's lunchtime here Krystledawne: cranky family :-) AKTATTER: TH HOW TO SECTION FOR THE MAGIC THREAD TRICK USING A BLUNT TAPESTRY INSTEAD OF A THREAD LOOP IN INCLUDED AKTATTER: TAKE CARE KRYSTLE Norag: k Krystledawne: I might be back to night raelara: interesting Krystledawne: thanks! AKTATTER: AND HERE WE THOUGHT IT WAS A "NEW" TECHNIQUE LOL AKTATTER: OK ALL THIS INFO WILL BE REPEATED TONIGHT AKTATTER: ANY LAST QUESTIONS?? raelara: I think there are a lot of new techniques that are really only being rediscovered Bob: I didn't know magic thread trick had been around that long Raven: no raelara: so has scmr Cynthia: no but a big THANK you to everyone who is helping with this for all of us AKTATTER: NEITHER DID I BOB BUT JENNI ANGELINE CRICHLOW ADDRESSED THAT ISSUE Norag: what time tonite AnneB: What about a list of "choosen" pages so we know what not to pick? Linda-S: My PC hung. Are pages 150to152 taken? If not, I think I can do that. It looks easy. Am I wrong? AKTATTER: IN HER HARDCOVER BOOK "LET'S TAT" Bob: thanks Georgia. AKTATTER: JUST AS SOON AS i FINISH THE LINKS i WILL SEND THAT NOTE AROUND ANNE AKTATTER: 8:30PM ET NEW YORK TIME raelara: I saw an antique edging that could only have been done using a variation of SCMR AKTATTER: ANGELINE SAID THAT BECAUSE OF THE CONSTRAINTS OF CONSTRUCTION Cynthia: thank you AK that will help all of us.... Bob: Linda, i don't think they look too hard. AKTATTER: THAT TATTERS WILL ALWAYS BE REINVENTING THE WHEEL AKTATTER: LINDA 150-152 GOT IT Cynthia: I know I did....silly me... Linda-S: OK, thanks! AKTATTER: OK MANY THANKS TO ALL FOR HELPING OUT AKTATTER: THIS LESSON REPEATS TONIGHT AKTATTER: BEFORE WE LEAVE Raven: k Cynthia: We'll all benefit in the long run.... Norag: what pages do i have Ak? AKTATTER: I WANT TO SEND OUT A NOTE OF GOOD WISHES AND PRAYERS AKTATTER: FOR ALL OF THE MANY TATTERS IN CLASS WHO ARE IN AUSTRALIA MJB: k Norag: yes Cynthia: Definately they need our prayers and some rain.... Lizette: they are all in our thoughts AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE PAGES ELNORA AND PICK OR WAIT FOR MY EMAIL AnneB: We all join you in that Marie Smith: yes it is devastating there Bob: Yes, fingers crossed it's all under control soon. AKTATTER: OK THANK YOU AL FOR STOPPING BY raelara: I must be out of the loop raelara: what's going on there? Norag: and hope they catch the arsonist Lizette: huge arson fire AKTATTER: I'M OFF TOTHE NURSING HOME TO PLAY BINGO WITH MOM THIS AFTERNOON Kate: bye all Cynthia: bad wild fires Cynthia: very very bad fires Norag: ok thanks Ak AKTATTER: JENNI WHOLE TOWNS HAVE BEEN DESTROYED Bob: both natural and arson, it's shocking Raven: by kate AKTATTER: 170 PEOPLE Lizette: Kim are you going to the meeting Wed raelara: yikes AKTATTER: BEST TOALL AKTATTER: GOOD BYE AND HAPPY TATTING! Lizette: Thanks AK Bob: goodbye all, see you next week. cat2tat: Bye! Raven: ya you gonna be ther AKTATTER from x.x.x.9 left the chat 5 hours ago Raven: there? Bob: Thanks georgia Marie Smith: Bye all. See you tonight Cynthia: and our prayers for all dealing with disasters raelara: I have a friend down there, she hasn't mentioned it. Raven: by cat Lizette: yes, moved my classes Linda-S: bye AnneB: Good bye all! Cynthia: Raven did you get horribly lost? Raven: not really it was pretty Raven: straight forward Cynthia: We weren't doing much beginning tatting I know in this session so I thought you might follow it Lizette: This was easy...usually everyon is tatting...it's all I can do keep up with the reading. Norag: Thanks Georgia Cynthia: do you want to do some basic tatting stuff now or wait until later? raelara: I already have to follow the reading while keeping my kids from wrecking the house raelara: no way I could tat too Raven: now is good Cynthia: that can be a challenge.... Cynthia: do you happen to have lesson 1 from angelfire available? Lizette: Cyn...i'm in on the basic stuff Raven: no where is it on the home page? raelara: I better go feed my kids Cynthia: you can stay too Cynthia: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters Cynthia: click on the link to lesson 1 Cynthia: brb got to get my other notebook Lizette: My DH brought me oatmeal while I'm trying to do this...LOL eating, reading, typing, tatting he thinks I'm super woman Raven: k Raven: im thinking that too AnneB: Nice DH feeding you! Lizette: He's the best and a ballroom dance partner Cynthia: sounds like a keeper...definately Raven: keeper for sure Lizette: oh yeah! The training is done LOL! Raven: lol AnneB: Ups - getting closer to bed time and I need to pack a bag. Go travelling tomorow just after work (and it's work sending med on a travel) Cynthia: safe trip Anne see you next week Lizette: where are you chatting from? AnneB: back the day after and then another trip in Thursday... Cynthia: Anne is in Norway JaneEb from x.x.x.180 joined the chat 5 hours ago Cynthia: Hi Jane Lizette: Wow! this is an international group...I love it! Raven: hay Jane Lizette: hi AnneB: I'm in Norway and it is 2215 my time and -9C outside Raven: Cynthia got the lesson 1 up JaneEb: Hi all. I hadn't got the link on my borrowed laptop. My real one's in hospital! AnneB: But the sun is back after the dark season and the cold weather makes it posible to see it too Raven: to cold for my blood Lizette: come visit in rainy California...it was so cold we got a little snow Lizette: It will be like summer for you Raven: ya a HOT summer AnneB: You'd have to dress warm in cold weather. Cynthia: lots of layers, right Anne AnneB: Don't like it if ti gets too hot (as in more than 30C) ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Feb 10 02:49:13 2009 GMT (106 KB) Page 2 of 3 - Char 51251 to 102436 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ Raven: then you would hate it here AnneB: I think I'll be here next monday - I can't remembr my schedule for next week at the momet. Cynthia: Raven lets look at the pictorial pattern chart from This n Tat AnneB: Good nigth/morning/afternoon/.... AnneB from x.x.x.44 left the chat 5 hours ago Raven: by ann Raven: looking cynthia Cynthia: Anne is quick when she says by she;s gone....lol Cynthia: in sample 1 if written out it would say something like Raven: I really dont understand this chart Cynthia: make a ring of 5 double stitches, picot, 5 double stitches, picot, 5 double stitches Cynthia: picot, 5 double stitches, picot, 5 double stitches, picot ...sorry I got lost Cynthia: R= ring' Raven: ya me too Cynthia: p=picot, s Raven: gotcha ya Cynthia: sep=seperated Cynthia: ds= doublestitch--the basic stitch in tatting Cynthia: cl=close Cynthia: rw= reverse work Cynthia: I thought we'd do pattern reading first so the abreviations and terms would be a bit easier for you Raven: thank you - ALOT Cynthia: in version 2 of sample 1 the "-" indicate picots and you always close ring after the last set of ds Lizette: Kim I can help you Wed if you are still stuck Raven: Thanks Lizette Cynthia: I've been teaching tatting for awhile and it seems like patterns are harder than the stitches at first Raven: Im gonna need it I think Cynthia: you'll do fine....I know if we didn't scare you off in the advanced class you wont have a problem with the bginner class Cynthia: also Georgia has this available 24/7 for tatters to chat and help each other Cynthia: lets look at sample 2 does that make more sense now...that you know some of the abbreviations Raven: Cynthia think Im gonna hafta stop here - head feels full and kids are hungry. it makes since by the way Cynthia: good look over lesson 1 and we can chat more on Thursday...you may want to take it to show Lizette... Cynthia: Peace Raven and see you on Thursday Raven: see ya for sure Cynthia: You'll do great.... Raven: later ladies Raven: thanks Cynthia: Bye Cynthia: Anyone want to chat a bit or did class get everyone thinking of tatting and not chatting Cynthia: Jane, I love the button people...I haven't tried buttons yet as locally they are a bit hard to get Cynthia: I guess we're all off to other things. See you this evening....Peace Lizette: This online class is so great but I have to get going. Bye Lizette from x.x.x.241 left the chat 5 hours ago Angela from x.x.x.157 joined the chat 88 minutes ago Bonnie from x.x.x.161 joined the chat 85 minutes ago Angela: I think everyone is listening to the president Paule from x.x.x.73 joined the chat 81 minutes ago Paule: Allo everyone Angela: hello Bonnie from x.x.x.161 joined the chat 80 minutes ago Paule: Anybody knows if Georgia is out of power? Angela: I don't think so. Anne posted some homework from todays class. So I think she is good to go. Unless someone else took over the class. Paule: She sais she might have problem in an e-mail this afternoon Sherong from x.x.x.251 joined the chat 77 minutes ago Sherong: Hi all Angela: I saw that a power problem. If she is going to be here it will be soon. I am thinking a lot of people in US are listening to the president speak Paule from x.x.x.73 joined the chat 75 minutes ago dmvtatter from x.x.x.22 left this message 75 minutes ago: Hello! Paule: You barack is having an important speech? Paule: You mean... Angela: yes, it is on his economic plan Angela: he started about 8:05 and should be done my 9:00 pm. Angela: I am listening while I wait here for class. Paule: Shall we wait 5 more minutes ... BJ from x.x.x.141 joined the chat 73 minutes ago BJ: hello All Angela: at least. I would hope Cynthia or someone would let us know. Paule: Sherong, do you think you could take over class if Georgia does not show up? Paule: She would be so proud of us... BJ: What was the homework? AKTATTER from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 71 minutes ago AKTATTER: Howdy all! BJ: Hi Georgia :?) Angela: she is here Sherong: Well first thing would be for everyone to have either their printouts or another screen with the pages open AKTATTER: had to drag my self away from the President speaking Angela: I was just going to try calling her AKTATTER: please take a moment and go print off AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/bocher1912project.htm Cynthia from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 70 minutes ago AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/bocher1912project.html Angela: I know. I am listening to him in the background dmvtatter from x.x.x.22 joined the chat 69 minutes ago Paule: Teacher I want you nto know we wre preparing to step in and get the class going Paule: We are that dedicated! Angela: Georgia, I know we are not going to hit all of these pages tonight. AKTATTER: no not all of them AKTATTER: but can you see the full list of pages up to 235? Angela: which ones do we really need for this evening. Yes I see that. AKTATTER: I do not have all the links made but the file names are there if it is working Paule: Remember: presidents come and go but tatting is here to stay!! Angela: I also see who is doing what pages. AKTATTER: ok prepare for screen blanking Angela: Yes, tatting forever Sherong: Yes it appears all the file names are there. Angela: I am ready AKTATTER: oh no I did that already! Cynthia: Hi everyone...just getting the downloads...I'll be right back AKTATTER: now in red you see some tatters names AKTATTER: those are the pages that they have volunteered to do Angela: yes, I saw that AKTATTER: now can you see why need so many volunteers?? AKTATTER: whew! AKTATTER: OK LET'S GET STARTED PLEASE AKTATTER: PLEAS SIGN IN Angela: Yes, that is a lot of pages and a log of samples Angela: Angela Miracle, Lupton, MI aanjel51@yahoo.com AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUL ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC BJ: beverly june davis beloyal1@comcast.net Silver City NM Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotron.ca dmvtatter: donna hearn dmvtatter@gmail.com Salisbury MD Sherong: Are all those pages english pages? Paule: I see you have a big blank between pages 48 to pages 150 AKTATTER: OK AKTATTER: I THINK SO BUT I HAVE NOT LOOKED AT ECH PAGE YET AKTATTER: SO FAR ALL I HAVE SEEN ARE IN ENGLISHJ Sherong: I show all those pages, some as links some just listed AKTATTER: DONNA SO NICE TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT AKTATTER: GREAT THANKS SHERON AKTATTER: EVEN WITH COPY AND PASTE IT TAKES A LONG TIME TO GET ALL THOSE LINKS WRITTEN ONTO THE PAGE dmvtatter: thank you, I'm very excited to be here. Was here briefly some years ago but wasn't able to conitnue Sherong: Paulie try refreshing that screen Paule: ok AKTATTER: LIKE ANGELA SAID EARLIER AKTATTER: THE WORLD CHANGES BUT THE TATTERS GO ON FOREVER AKTATTER: OK I HAVE BEEN ASKED TO REPEAT THE PURPOSE OF THE PROJECT AKTATTER: PLEASE BEAR WITH ME A MOMENT Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, brasthatfit@yahoo.com, Stillwater OK USA Angela: Yes, we need a banner that says TATTERS FOREVER AKTATTER: EVENING SESSION FEB 9 2009 AKTATTER: RIGHT ON! Paule: Still says Sue Fuller pages 41-48 AKTATTER: WE ARE RESTORING THE EMMANUELBOCHER 1912 TATTING BOOK AKTATTER: YES THOSE ARE HER PAGES Paule: And Linda S. =ages 150... to something AKTATTER: THERE IS A LOT MORE AFTER THAT Cynthia: Awwsome job to all working on the Bocher book! Sherong: I get lots of pages between those so not sure what is going on AKTATTER: IT WAS INFRENCH AND ROSE ROGERS TRANSLATED IT AKTATTER: AND POSTED THEM ONLINE Paule: French! AKTATTER: OK LET ME LOOK AKTATTER: OK WHAT I SEE IS THIS Paule: me too gone look AKTATTER: THE PAGES WITH LINKS UP TO 89 -91 AKTATTER: THEN JUST THE ACTUAL FILE NAMES FOR PAGS 92 - 235 TeresaW from x.x.x.181 joined the chat 60 minutes ago AKTATTER: JUST SUBSTITUTE THAT PART FOR THE END OF THE URL AND IT WILL WORK TeresaW: Teresa Woods, tattingteresa@gmail.com, Mount Holly, NC AKTATTER: THE NAMES LISTED IN RED SHOW THE PAGES THAT TATTER VOLUNTEERED TO DO AKTATTER: W3ELCOME TERESA Paule: Allo teresa AKTATTER: SO THIS WEEK TAKE A MINUTE OR TWO AND CRUISE THRU THE BOOK PAGES TeresaW: ty, sorry to be late. Just got back from Atlanta. AKTATTER: REMEBER WHEN YOU FIRST CLICK IT THE BANNER GIVES AN ERROR MESSAGE AKTATTER: BUT LET IT LOAD, CLOSE IT AND THE PATTERN PAGE IS BENEATH IT AKTATTER: SO THERE IS NO DEADLINE FOR COMPLETIN THE MODELS AKTATTER: PLEASE USE LARGER THREAD FOR THE MODELS AKTATTER: PLEASE MAKE THE MODEL AS IT SAYS ORIGINALLY AKTATTER: THEN MAKE THE MODEL USING MODERN TATTING TECHNIQUES AKTATTER: DIAGRAMS WILL ALSO BE NEEDED EVENTUALLY Angela: I think modern is easier AKTATTER: AND WE ACN SURELY HAVE THE MODELS DONE IN VARIATIONS AKTATTER: 2 OR MULTI COLORS, BEADED SINGLY OR IN GROUPS OR LARGER PIECES AKTATTER: AND THEN WE WANT TO POST ALSO THE ORIGINAL fRENCH PAGES Angela: so much to do AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS? AKTATTER: OH I FORGOT ONE THING AKTATTER: YES THERE ARE ITEMS MISSNIG FROM THE PAGES THE LITTLE BOXES WITH RED X AKTATTER: BUT THAT IS ALL THAT WE HAVE FOUND A THE MOMENT Angela: doesn't the red x represent a photo or diagram AKTATTER: HAVE YOU ALL HAD A CHANCE TO SEE THE HOMEWORK IN THE LESSON INDEX AKTATTER: LOTS CAME INTHIS WEEK Angela: not yet Paule: I The little boxes with red x = pictures? AKTATTER: USUALLY IT DOES ANGELA BUT NO WAY TO TELL WHAT ROSE HAD PLACED THERE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html Sherong: Is it just me or do some of the butterflies look more like bats??? Angela: looks like people were very busy last week AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT PAULE;S THREE PHOTOS AKTATTER: LOL Angela: I saw AnneB had a post on her blog from today's lesson AKTATTER: PAULE WAS VERY BRAVE TO SEND IN HER WORK AKTATTER: SURE THERE ARE THINGS NOT PERFECT AKTATTER: BUT THIS IS HOW WE LEARN AKTATTER: SHOULD WE GO READ IT ANGEALA? POST THE LINK Angela: I thought this was a no grade class 8-)) Cynthia: I like them they show good technique and a desire to improve...we could all learn fromher AKTATTER: NO GRADES JUST DISCUSSION ON HOW TO IMPROVE OUR WORK AKTATTER: PAULE'S LINTERLACED PICOTS HEART Paule: Yes but we all want to do better work Angela: here it is http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/ Cynthia: we all get A's ffor shwoing up and improving AKTATTER: PATTERN BY PATTY DOWDEN AKTATTER: PAULE HAD TROUBLE HOLDING THE PICOTS AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT THE PHOTOS PATTY POSTED AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf Angela: that works for me. just showing up can be difficult at time, but no one wants to miss tatting class! AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE HER PAPER PICOT GAUGE AKTATTER: IS HAD NOTCHES IN IT TeresaW from x.x.x.181 joined the chat 52 minutes ago TeresaW: durn Vista ... got bounced. AKTATTER: SO TRUE, EVEN DURING THE GREAT FLOOD TODAY ALL I COULD THINK ABOUT WAS NOT MISSING CLASS! AKTATTER: WB TERESA JUST TYPE K ONCE IN A WHILE TW Sherong: I use Firefox and it asks before bouncing Paule: I tried notches G. but they were not deep enough AKTATTER: THOSE NOTCHES ON THE GAUGES CATCH THE PICOTS AND HELP HOLD THEM IN PLACE Angela: so have the waters receeded? TeresaW: I tried opening too many IE sessions. BJ: or clik on ok and it keeps you on for five minutes AKTATTER: YES THANK GOOD NESS AKTATTER: IT WAS A PRESSURE GAUGE LIKE ON A PRESSURE COOKER AKTATTER: A HOLE BLEW IN THE GAUGE AND UNDER PRESSURE THE WATER Angela: awful AKTATTER: CAME OUT SO FORCEFULLY! AKTATTER: WE WERE LUCKY Sherong: Still, better than moose poop Angela: sounds like it AKTATTER: ALSO PAULE AKTATTER: TRUE TOO SG AKTATTER: I HOLD THE GAUGE IN THE PINCH AKTATTER: SO THAT THE LEGS OF THE PICOTS AKTATTER: ARE BASICALLY HELD AGAINST THE SIDE OF THE PICOT GAUGE AKTATTER: TRY THAT IT MIGHT HELP AKTATTER: ALSO PAULE WANTED TO KNOW WHAT ABOUT THE TAILS IN THIS HEART? Paule: I will .. in red! AKTATTER: WELL EVEN IN A SMALL MOTIF YOU CAN HIDE THE ENDS AKTATTER: BY USING THE MAGIC THREAD THRICK Paule: Maybe victorian sets? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/rogers/carnation.html katie Verna/occhitat from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 48 minutes ago AKTATTER: AND STRANGELY I FOUND OUT TODAY Paule: to make a tail like a cerf-volant AKTATTER: WELCOME KATIE katie Verna/occhitat: Hi, folks katie Verna/occhitat: Thank you AK Paule: sorry about the french word AKTATTER: THAT THE MAGIC THREAD TRICK IS NOT AS NEW AS WE THOUGHT IT WAS TeresaW: Sets would make a very nice bookmark. You could also do a lock-stitch chain. one half flipped, one half unflipped. Paule: oh? AKTATTER: WELL REMEMBER THIS IS A FAMILY ORIENTED PG-13 ROOM PAULE AKTATTER: THAT HIDING ENDS METHOD IS IN THE BOCHER BOOK! Angela: wow, isn't it amazing what you find out AKTATTER: PG 153 Paule: cerf-volant=kite! AKTATTER: THEY USED THE BLUNT TAPESTY NEEDLE INSTEAD OF THE THREAD LOOP Paule: what?!!! AKTATTER: AH HA LIKE THE DRAGON'S TAIL YOU MADE Paule: what page? AKTATTER: THE EYE OF THE NEEDLE = THE LOOP OF THE THREAD AKTATTER: PG 153 I THINK IT WAS Paule: I'll go look it up AKTATTER: LIZETTE ALSO MENTIONED SAVING THE TAILS TO MAKE A BOOK MARK TYPE END TERESA AKTATTER: SETS OR ZIG ZAG ANYTHING WOULD DO I THINK Cynthia: I like the occasional foreign (to us) word it keeps our minds shart! AKTATTER: ALSO PAULE COMPLAINED ABOUT THE CUPPING OR BOWLING Cynthia: my typing isn't lol sharp! AKTATTER: OF THE SUPERBOWL SNOWFLAKE FROM THE FEB 2 LESSON Angela: eventually we might all learn what they are sayign Paule: Not really complained G.... AKTATTER: NOTE PAULE PLACED BUGLE BEADS ON HER JOINS TOO Paule: Just remarked... Cynthia: and be better for the additional language AKTATTER: SO HOW TO FIX PAULE'S PROBLEM? AKTATTER: IF YOU KNOW THAT THE PICOT IS GOING TO BE USED FOR A JOIN AKTATTER: THEN MAKE THE JOINING PICOT SLIGHTLY LARGER Winkerbill from x.x.x.52 joined the chat 43 minutes ago AKTATTER: THAT SHOULD HELP IT LAY FLAT AKTATTER: WELCOME STEPH Winkerbill: just got home - sorry I'm late for class. Paule: Where exactly G. in the inner circle? AKTATTER: PAULE DID YOU HAVE ANOTHER QUESTION ON THE PATTERNS? Paule: or the outer circle? AKTATTER: NO, ON THE OUTER POINTS BETWEEN THE 3-RING PORTIONS AKTATTER: YES THE OUTR ER CICLE Winkerbill: Thanks....what a day! Whew! Winkerbill: :-) AKTATTER: ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS ON THE RECENT LESSONS? AKTATTER: GLAD YOU COULD MAKE IT STEPH AKTATTER: ANY ONE NEW HERE TONIGHT? Winkerbill: Have we talked about the Bocher pages yet? AKTATTER: STEPH YOU SHOULD TAKE A LOOK AT THEIS PAGE Paule: G. do you mean the joins between the 3 rings on the outer circle? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/bocher1912project.html dmvtatter: This is my first time in many years so I guess I am new AKTATTER: GOT MORE PAGES POSTED AKTATTER: IF EACH POINT HAS THE 3 RINGS PAULE AKTATTER: THEN THE JOIN THAT CAUSES THE PROBLEM Paule: I tried to open page 153 and failed... AKTATTER: IS THE ONE BETWEEN EACH POINT Winkerbill: Wow! YOu've been BUSY!!! AKTATTER: SIGH AKTATTER: I WORKED SO HARD TO GET THEM TYPED RIGHT Paule: got it G. Sherong: Not a clickable link yet Angela: and Steph she had a flood at home AKTATTER: GREAT! AKTATTER: JUST LOOK UP ABOVE AT THE LAST CLICKABLE LINK Winkerbill: Oh my! AKTATTER: REMOVE THE LAST FILE NAME AKTATTER: REAPLACE IT WITH ONE FROM THE LIST AKTATTER: IT WORKS Cynthia: but the amount of work is incredible...I tip my shuttle to you! Paule: replace it with one from the list? AKTATTER: ON PATTERN I WOULD LIKE TO LOOK AT TONIGHT Paule: what list? AKTATTER: PG 72 AKTATTER: :) AKTATTER: YES LIKE THIS PAULE AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/bocherdone/1912p016.html" target="blank">Bocher page 16</a><br> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/1912p016.html AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/1912p016.html AKTATTER: THEN REMOVE 1912p016.html AKTATTER: replace with Paule: p^lease leave this in the blog katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: 1912p092to095.html Paule: ok AKTATTER: i think that does it AKTATTER: YES THE ENTIRE LOG WILL BE POSTED AFTER CLASS Angela: ok Paule: Would red thread #10 be ok for models? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/1912p071to073.html AKTATTER: YES THAT IS FINE AKTATTER: 20 IS GREAT ALSO MEDIUM ROSE BLUE AND GOLD ALL SCAN REALLY WELL BTW AKTATTER: SO ON PG 72 AKTATTER: IT IS CALLED Paule from x.x.x.73 joined the chat 34 minutes ago AKTATTER: ENTRE-DEUX m n Paule: Whew! katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: paule SLID OFF HER CHAIR AKTATTER: GOT VELCRO? Winkerbill: Does that mean "insertion?" Paule: fell flat on my face! AKTATTER: right insertion Angela: oh no , I hope she is okay. Paule: I am angela AKTATTER: between two literally Angela: maybe a tatted seatbelt would be better AKTATTER: now if you were making the model AKTATTER: you would begin by retatting it just as it looks Angela: G you are no longer incaps AKTATTER: three rings with no space between AKTATTER: OOPS AKTATTER: CHAIN AKTATTER: WITH A SMALL RING THROW OFF AT EITHER END AKTATTER: THE FIRST MODEL COULD BE ALL ONE COLOR, RED EH PAULE? AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: WHEN YOU TAT THE MODERN VERSION Cynthia: which insertion? I don't have any pictures Angela: I don't have any pics on my copy dmvtatter: no pics here either :( Paule: I like pages 44 -47 Winkerbill: just boxes with red x in them Angela: probably has pics!! AKTATTER: WAHHH Paule: there litlle boxes with red X in them=pictures? Angela: do you have a model already done? Sherong: #23 seams to be the one she is describing AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/1912p071to073.html Angela: just red x's Sherong: No pics on that one either. dmvtatter: no pics also Angela: you are the only one with pics, it seems. Could be that is because you are the teach and it really is a test??? Paule: So ... you just tat blind!... AKTATTER: HMM EDGING 28 TeresaW: good one! BJ: could it be our browsers? Sherong: Why not??? mary from x.x.x.112 joined the chat 29 minutes ago AKTATTER: GOOD ONE PUALE mary: icela Cynthia: the middle box comes up as a mistyped letter but then you get it if you click on the words AKTATTER: WELCOME MARY mary: Hi G AKTATTER: WAAAHH Paule: Tat with your feelings... AKTATTER: OK HOW ABOUT PAGE 58? Angela: I don't get anything when I click on the boxes AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/1912p016.html Winkerbill: i don't either AKTATTER: FORGET THE BOXED WITH THE RED X AKTATTER: WE CAN'T DO ANYTHING WITH THEM AKTATTER: IF YOU SEE THE OLD BLACK AND WHITE SCAN AKTATTER: OF THE TATTING WE MUST JUST GO BY THAT Cynthia: nope just and error message.... Paule: Floret 11- figure B Angela: I printed page 34 and 35 and have photos Paule: Floret 11- figure C Angela: actually it is 33, 34 and 35 wiht photos Paule: Are all there Paule: got a terrifying message! AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/1912p033to035.html Winkerbill: i have no pics on p. 58, either. Just red x boxes again. AKTATTER: OK TRY 34 Winkerbill: Now THAT is weird - I printed pp 33 to 35 WITH pics, and they don't show up NOW! Strange! AKTATTER: OK WHY I AM THE ONLY ONE WHO CAN SEE THESE PAGES ARGHHHHH Angela: I actually was tatting these yesterday, just to see how they worked out Angela: you are the only one with pics, it seems. Could be that is because you are the teach and it really is a test??? Sherong: We can see the pages, just not the pics Winkerbill: actually, I had a question about p...28...or somewhere in 33 to 35...., I think it was. It had a "twist" join AKTATTER: LOL ANGELA I THINK IT IS A TEST OF MY PATIENCE mary: because you have high insight...ROFLOL Angela: I don't have pics today either AKTATTER: XRAY VISION MORE LIKE IT AKTATTER: OH GOSH mary: agree Cynthia: strange...maybe the pics are in cyber space not real space....lol *smile* Winkerbill: The photo looked like the shuttle thread was just run through and it created a "twist" - I unwound some of the shuttle thread and did what it looked like.... AKTATTER: NO MATTER WHAT PAGE AKTATTER: NO MATTER WHICH PATTERN mary: Well I see some pictures Winkerbill: not sure if that was what it said to do, though.... AKTATTER: DO AS IS VERSION AKTATTER: DO MODERN VERSION Sherong: Wonder if it is because so many are trying to see it at once?" AKTATTER: DO VARIATION WITH COLOR OR BEADS OR ANYTHING TeresaW: Could the site be getting too many congruent hits? AKTATTER: HMM BANDWIDTH PROBLEM? AKTATTER: TRAFFIC JAM Winkerbill: "as is" being cut and tie? Modern with split rings to climb to another row? AKTATTER: DOES EVERYONE HAVE IT NOW? AKTATTER: STEPH RIGHT ON!!!! Cynthia: just the words...but I get the idea... BJ: n AKTATTER: AS TIME ALLOWS VISIT SOME OF THE PAGES Winkerbill: I still don't have pictures. mary: why would we cut and tie? do we have to AKTATTER: ADN PICK ONE katie Verna/occhitat: k Cynthia: for the original yes but not the modern Paule: I will do pages 44 to 47 because... I like them!!! AKTATTER: TO PRESERVE THE BOOK AS IT WAS AKTATTER: OLD VERSION AND MODERN VERSION Paule: Edging 26 and insertion 11 AKTATTER: THOSE ARE ALREADY ASSIGNED PUALE :( Angela: G, I just pull up pages 38, 39 and 40 with pics mary: when did you put up pages 44-47 BJ: the only page I could see was page 16 AKTATTER: HOORAY!!! AKTATTER: SAVING PAGS 16 - 27 FOR THE NEWEST TATTERS AKTATTER: PAULE LOOK IN THE 200'S AKTATTER: SO THIS HAS BEEN NEARLY A TOTAL DISASTER Sherong: Maybe need to PDF the pages so pics stay AKTATTER: BUT I THANK YOU FOR STICKING WITH IT Angela: nearly, but we can do it again next week AKTATTER: ABSOLUTELY RIGHT SHERON Angela: we love to tat no matter what dmvtatter: are pages 77 and 78 assigned already? Cynthia: definately and we like to be here anyway... AKTATTER: DON'T FORGET THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS IS A VORACIOUS GROUP AKTATTER: DEVOURING PATTERNS LIKE CHOCOLATE DROPS katie Verna/occhitat: Sure, let's keep working along at this, AK. Cynthia: and tenacious too AKTATTER: WE NEED MORE PATTERNS TO SHARE AKTATTER: AND WELCOME NEW DESGINGERS AND GUEST TEACHERS BJ: 44 to 47 came up Winkerbill: and I'd rather tat than eat....even chocolate.... mary: G all I saw today were up to pages 35 AKTATTER: :) Angela: other than the bocher book AKTATTER: THERE WERE MORE POSTED UP TO PAGE 235 mary: where AKTATTER: ANY ANNONCEMENTS? Cynthia: We'll keep trying...I know us... AKTATTER: SAME PAGE MARY Angela: I went back to work today AKTATTER: BEGINNERS CLASS THURS 9 PMET AKTATTER: SPANISH CLASS SUNDAY mary: I was just there and only saw pages up to 35 AKTATTER: GREAT ANGELA Cynthia: and 3 PM ET as well for the beginners Angela: 70 mile drive though AKTATTER: WANT TO BE SURE TO KEEP IN MIND ALL OUT MEMBERS IN AUSTRALIA TODAY TOO mary: We are having the house next door moved Paule: G can we see the original Bocher in french? katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: YES EVENTUALY PAULE AKTATTER: IT IS HUGE 11 X 17 SIZE PAGES Angela: I saw something on eTatters regarding Australia Paule: Ah... AKTATTER: BTU EVENTUALLY WE WILL GET IT SCANNED AND POSTED TOO Paule: I was thinking of the pictures... AKTATTER: DID EVERYONE CHECK ANNE B BLOG? Angela: can you take it piece meal to Staples and have it reduced? Cynthia: yes Paule: no Winkerbill: no mary: no Cynthia: can you take it to a local copy place that can do the bigger pages? That might work AKTATTER: 235 PAGES = $$ RATHER DO IT AT HOME ADN SAVE $$ Angela: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/ Anne B's site AKTATTER: NO KINKO'S AROUND HERE katie Verna/occhitat: k BJ: very expensive Angela: we could have a pop bottle drive Angela: I forgot not every state has bottle returns Sherong: Problem with reducing is ability to read pages Winkerbill: She does such lovely tatting! Just checked out Anne B's site AKTATTER: WE MIGHT NEED IT ONE DAY AKTATTER: TRUE THE PHOTOS ARE FUZZY ENOUGH Winkerbill: wonder if we could have an online bake sale.... :-) Paule: G I would be willing to try pages 49 to 51 Angela: that sounds yummy AKTATTER: GREAT PAULE THANKS Paule: except I have no idea whst the twist is... Angela: I will check out who has what and let you know AKTATTER: JUST LOOK AT THE BOOK PAGES AND EMAIL YOUR CHOICES AKTATTER: OH LET ME LOOK mary: Who has assigned pages already G Winkerbill: oh yes, the "twist." From the picture I printed over the weekend, it LOOKED like you just pull up a thread and THAT creates the twist. Cynthia: it will be interesting to do the patterns without the pictures and see what we come up with...and if we do get the pics then compare our interpertations with it ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Feb 10 02:49:36 2009 GMT (106 KB) Page 3 of 3 - Char 102437 to 108717 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/bocher1912/roserogersblocher1912/1912p049to051.html Paule: Can you send me that picture Steph Winkerbill: But now there aren't any pictures.... Winkerbill: I'll try to figure out where it was and see if it's still there Paule Paule: toujoursvivante@videotron.ca AKTATTER: oh isee it is one shuttle work and the bare thread space on one side Paule: means still alive! AKTATTER: is wrapped around the bare thread space on the opposite side Paule: Ah ah Winkerbill: Paule it was page 28, figure H, but now the pictures are gone from the page. AKTATTER: mary the pages have got tatters names next to them Cynthia: it is an interesting exercise without the pics to figure what was supposed to be done... AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/bocher1912project.html Angela: it is. I find I like the pics to help do the pattern AKTATTER: ok that for beign good sports about the missing stuff AKTATTER: I WILL LOOK FORWRAD TO HEARING FROM YOU ALL DURING THE WEEK Cynthia: I have to go...Beth needs a ride. I'll read the log later Peace AKTATTER: LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? AKTATTER: THE LOG WILL BE POSTED AFTER CALL AKTATTER: BYE CYN Cynthia: I'll let you know if I manage to get the pics AKTATTER: OK THANKS Cynthia: bye all and Peace mary: G i don't see pages beyond 91 Angela: G I will tackle 89 - 91 TeresaW: g'night all. Gotta get some zzzz's. Winkerbill: night Teresa Sherong: Nite Teresa AKTATTER: TW ANY WORD ON THE BOOK PROJECT? AKTATTER: OH GOODNIGHT TW katie Verna/occhitat: k Paule: pages 49 to 51 AKTATTER: OK ANGELA GOT IT AKTATTER: GOT IT PAULE AKTATTER: GO PAST THE LAST LINK MARY mary: G i don't see pages beyond 91 AKTATTER: THE LINKS ARE NOT THERE BUT THE NAMES OF THE FILES ARE THERE Angela: have to go AKTATTER: SUBSTITUTE THE NEW FILE NAME AT THE END OF THE URL dmvtatter: good night Angela from x.x.x.153 left the chat 5 minutes ago AKTATTER: NIGHT ANGELA mary: I just copied one and it gave me a blank page mary: oh gotcha AKTATTER: DID YOU TYPE THE FULL URL? AKTATTER: OK mary: no mary: LOL mary: why would I do that its too easy AKTATTER: OK I WILL GO ADD PAULE AND ANGELA TO THE LIST AKTATTER: BRB mary: I was in the sun too long today Winkerbill: I guess I need to go.... Winkerbill: I'll check the log and see if I can get pictures later. Winkerbill: Night everyone Winkerbill from x.x.x.52 left the chat 2 minutes ago AKTATTER: night sepht mary: Well let me scoot, and check out which pages I want to do. Good night all see you later AKTATTER: got it AKTATTER: i wil go post the log now katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: good night all and happy tatting AKTATTER: ngith katie AKTATTER from x.x.x.12 left the chat 2 minutes ago Sherong: Think I will go also katie Verna/occhitat: Thank you, AK! katie Verna/occhitat: nite all, ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com