20090119log

The Online Tatting Class
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AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 cleared the room 51 minutes ago
AKTATTER: Jan. 19, 2009
AKTATTER: Glad to see so many of you here
MJB: did you have snow Georgia?
claudia: glad to be back in class
Norag: Thank you. Glad  to be back, Georgia.
marco: glad to be here georgia
DorcasAnn: we did, MJB
AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 50 minutes ago
MJB: I know., isn't it pretty
Marie Smith: We are to get snow tonight!
Marie Smith: Here is south Carolina
marco: we had  some snow , but not as much as you all
AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 49 minutes ago
Angela: my daughter in NC is under a winter snow storm
Norag: We had a tiny bit of snow , mostly ice but snow expected tonite and tomorrow.
AKTATTER: ok! who keeps pulling the chair out from under me? lol
Tine Vedder: ai
marco: i am  not!!!!
marco: need some help???
claudia: fasten your belt georgia!
Cynthia: not me
Angela: I was wondering that myself Grogria
Marie Smith: Buckle your seat belt
AKTATTER: ok! belt fasterned
MJB: My screen went blank
marco: great
Norag: not me
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html the new index page
AKTATTER: it goes blank when I clear the log out Mary Jane
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/nnhistorytat.html
MJB: okay
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf
claudia: very interesting tatting history
marco: yes that is the  one i have
AKTATTER: http://tinyurl.com/7xmj3t
AKTATTER: http://threadsofatattinggoddess.blogspot.com/EE14.jpg
fostermom23: hello, my first time here how does this work?
AKTATTER: http://www.occhi-world.de/uehoer.htm
MJB: welcome fostermom23
AKTATTER: Welcome 23
AKTATTER: we have just started
AKTATTER: there is a 10 min open chat
AKTATTER: before the lessons begin
Cynthia: welcome fostermom23
AKTATTER: 23 did you have a chance to print off the lesson material?
AKTATTER: if not you can click on the links in the text and see it online
fostermom23: where was I suppose to find it?
claudia: look at the links below
AKTATTER: the 2009 lesson index is linked from the class home page
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com
marco: I saw that Riet was  verr  bussy?
marco: hihi
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html
AKTATTER: Yes! Riet sent in the firs homework on this lesson
marco: Woh
Cynthia: makes some of us look slow
AKTATTER: ok it is time to sign in
AKTATTER: she 10 hours ahead of us maybe!
marco: yeah you can  see that again
Angela: Angela Miracle, aanjel51@yahoo.com, Lupton, Michigan
marco from x.x.x.240 joined the chat 43 minutes ago
MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus Indiana
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM
DorcasAnn: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson  brasthatfit@yahoo.com  Stillwater Oklahoma
marco: atleast 10 ours
AKTATTER: WELCOME BACK TO CLASS
Tine Vedder: k
claudia: claudia meza , cloelo@gmail.  argentina
Norag: was on your site but could'nt find the instructions.
marco: Marco Etten-Leur the Netherlands
AKTATTER: THIS ISTHE 10TH YEAR FOR THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS AND I AM BURSTING MY BUTTONS WITH PRIDE
Tine Vedder: Tine Vedder The Netherlands
fostermom23: Marty Harris  harris7039@adelphia.net  lebanon Ohio
AKTATTER: nORAG GO TO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html
claudia: ten years!! so much tatting!
Marie Smith: Marie Smith Anderson South Carolina  tattingwithmarie at yahoo dot come
marco: congratultions georgia!!!!!!!!
AKTATTER: THEN PRINT OFF THE PAGES WHICH ARE LINKED THERE
AKTATTER: THANKS!
Norag: Elnora Garcia ceg43@comcast.net, Danville, Va.
marco: we are  going for another 10 years al least
Angela: so much teaching, good for you Georgia
AKTATTER: I HOPE SO! AND I AM GRATEFUL FOR ALL THAT HELP THAT YOU AND TATTERS EVERYWHERE GIVE TO US
Flupigirl: Patty Baranski Soddy-Daisy, Tennessee, USA
Cynthia: definately marco and congrats Georgia
AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE HISTORY PAGES
AKTATTER: WRITTEN BY DEBI FEYH AND RYAN EVELYTH FROM NORDIC NEEDLE
AKTATTER: THANKS TO THEM FOR SHARING WITH US
AKTATTER: JUST FYI
AKTATTER: THEY CALL TATTING A "
AKTATTER: KNOTTED LACE"
AKTATTER: WE ALL KNOW, THO
AKTATTER: THAT IF YOU ARE MAKING KNOTS YOU ARE NOT TATTING
Cynthia: lol and rotfl
Tine Vedder: k
fostermom23 from x.x.x.95 joined the chat 40 minutes ago
Wally from x.x.x.14 joined the chat 40 minutes ago
Wally: Hello!
claudia: hi wally!!
Cynthia: (laugh out loud and roll on the floor laughing) for those not familiar
MJB: Hello Wally
claudia: hola!
AKTATTER: WELCOME WAL.LY
AKTATTER: :)
Tine Vedder: Hi Wally
Wally: Hola Claudia!
AKTATTER: WALLY WE ARE DISCUSSING THE HISTORY INFO
Norag: Hi Wally
Wally: I haven't been ere for so long that I even forgot my password
Marie Smith: Hi Wally
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/nnhistorytat.html
Wally: I don't have any links for tonight
claudia: thanks cynthia for the translation of   lol
AKTATTER: CKY FOR YOU IT IS EASY TATTING!
Wally: Thanks!
AKTATTER: THAT IS THE FIRST SECTION
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf
marco: i am getting  some visitors in about 10 minutes
AKTATTER: THAT IS NEXT
marco: so i have to go, sorry
AKTATTER: BYE MARCO TAKE CARE
marco: Hope to see  you all  soon again
marco: i wil mail you  georgia
AKTATTER: ALSO IT IS MENTIONED THAT mARY GRNAVILLE DELANY
marco: bye
AKTATTER: HAS SOME TATTING ON CHAIR COVERS THAT HAS SURVIVED
Wally: This is cool material.  Someone was asking me the history of tatting in  Spanish.  I'll translate it for her
AKTATTER: WE ALL KNOW THAT THE LACE ON THOSE CHAIR COVERS WERE KNOTTING AND NOT TATTING
Tine Vedder from x.x.x.125 joined the chat 37 minutes ago
AKTATTER: THEY WILL ENJOY IT
AKTATTER: LATER THEY CALL THE HALF STITCH AND DOUBLE DTITCH AS A SQUARE KNOT
AKTATTER: BUT WE KNOW THAT IS NOT A TRUE DESRIPTION
AKTATTER: OTHERWISE IT IS A VERY NICE ARTICLE
AKTATTER: ANY COMMENTS ON IT?
Tine Vedder: oo
Tine Vedder: no
Cynthia: that makes a larks head join doesn't it?
Angela: it was interesting
Tine Vedder: verry
AKTATTER: LARK'S HEAD KNOT LOOKS LIKE OUT DOUBLE STITCH
AKTATTER: OK NEXT WE HAVE
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf
AKTATTER: LAST FALL THERE WAS A REQUEST FOR INFO ON OVERCROCHETED PICOTS
Tine Vedder: yes
AKTATTER: I SENT OUT A NOTE FOR EHLP IN LOCATING A PATTERN TO SHOWCASE THIS
Norag: I read about that
AKTATTER: HOWEVER, IT WAS SOON MADE CLEAR TO ME THAT WE
AKTATTER: DO NOT HAVE A CLEAR UNDERSTANDING OF THE TERMS
AKTATTER: RIGH ELNORA
Wally: Ah...  Didn't know about it.  If not I would have send you my Hibiscus pattern
yohan23 from x.x.x.112 joined the chat 33 minutes ago
AKTATTER: SO TO CLEAR THIS UP
AKTATTER: THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN A GOOD ONE WALLY
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: WELCOME YOHAN
AKTATTER: SO TO DEFINE THE TWO TYPE OF PICOTS
AKTATTER: OVERCROCHETED PICOTS
yohan23: How do I join the beginng tatting class?
Norag: ISomewhere I do have some doilies I bought , made someplace, I don't exactly remember where, but the do have crochet in the center and around the edges
AKTATTER: hELLO YOHAN, I JUST GOT YOUR MESSAGE TODAY. I WILL SEND YOU INFO
AKTATTER: THE BEGINNERS MEET HERE ON THURSDAYS
Norag: Hello Georgia Elnora
AKTATTER: YOU ARE MOST WELCOME TO SIT ON THIS CLASS
Cynthia: and all are welcome in the beginner class as learners or helpers
AKTATTER: AND SEE HOW THE REGULAR CLASS WORKS, TOO
Wally: Mom have a set of placemats like that, made in China.  She got them on EBay
AKTATTER: BE WE CAN GET PHOTOS OF THE DOILIES ELNORA?
AKTATTER: SO FOR AN EXAMPLE OF THE OVERCROCHETED PICOT LOOK HERE:
Norag: Thank yoy so very much.
AKTATTER: http://threadsofatattinggoddess.blogspot.com/EE14.jpg
AKTATTER: tHAT EGG WSA TATTED BY GINA BRUMMETT
Norag: Let me look.
AKTATTER: AFTER THE TATTING WAS COMPLETED SHE KEPT THE SAME THREAD AND BEGAN TO DO A SIMPLE SLIP STITCH
Tine Vedder: nice
claudia: beautiful colors!!
Cynthia: pretty
Flupigirl: That is beautiful!
AKTATTER: INTO THE TOPS OF THE PICOTS
MJB: that egg is lovely
AKTATTER: HELMA SIEPMAN AHS DONE AL LOT OF THIS TYPE IN HER FLOWERS
AKTATTER: SHE ALSO DID A STEP BY STEP PAGE TO ILLUSTRATE
Tine Vedder: k
claudia: what is a slip stich?
AKTATTER: HOW TO OVERCROCHET THE PICOTS
Wally: punto raso en ganchillo
AKTATTER: LOOK HERE CLAUDIA
AKTATTER: http://www.occhi-world.de/uehoer.htm
AKTATTER: YOU JUST PUT THE HOOK THROUGH THE PICOT
claudia: gracias wally, georgia
AKTATTER: GRAB THE THREAD AND BRING IT THROUGH THE PICOT
AKTATTER: HELMAS INSTRUCTIONS ARE IN GERMAN
claudia: ah.. ok
AKTATTER: BUT YOU CAN SEE THE PHOTOS
Cynthia: I did a quick translation and it helps
Norag: don't twist picots while slip stitching
AKTATTER: THAT IS A GOOD POINT!
Tine Vedder: n
Wally: I got my pattern  but the photo is not showing.  After the class I'll change the green square on the pattern  http://needles-n-shuttles.com/hibiscus.html
AKTATTER: YOU CAN CROCHET OVER THE PICOT TOPS PICOT BY PICOT
AKTATTER: ONE AT A TIME
AKTATTER: AS IN THESE PHOTOS
claudia: where is your translation cynthia?
AKTATTER: AND YOU CAN GATHER SEVERAL PICOTS UP AS ONE
AKTATTER: WE WILL DO THAT KIND ALSO LATER
Tine Vedder: ok
AKTATTER: THE OTHER PICOT TYPE WHICH MANY OF HAVE CONFUSED FOR THE OVERCROCHETED PICOT
Cynthia: I can send it to you after class...I used babelfish
AKTATTER: IS ACTUALLY AN INTERWOVEN OR INTERLACED PICOT
AKTATTER: IN THIS TYPE
AKTATTER: AFTER THE PICOTS ARE FINISHED
Wally: Here is the photo of my hibiscus with the overcrochet picots  http://images.needledreams2.multiply.com/image/1/photos/upload/300x300/SHn-XwoKCtYAAFVIIq41/img015.jpg?et=VP9tr%2Cog6QLIz8b7pr0PWg&nmid=0
AKTATTER: YOU RETURN TO THE SECOND PICOT
Wally: I noticed now the interweave picot.  that's cute
Tine Vedder: nice Wally
AKTATTER: BEAUTIFUL WALLY
AKTATTER: AND NOTE
claudia: lindo wally,no lo habia notado
AKTATTER: IN THIS FLOWER PATTERN
AKTATTER: WALLY DELIBERATLY TWISTED THE PICOTS
MJB: pretty hibiscus Wally
AKTATTER: SO IN THE INTERWOVEN PICOTS
AKTATTER: TAKE THE TOP OF THE SECOND PICOT AND BRING IT TO THE LEFT
AKTATTER: THROUGH THE TOP OF THE NUMBER ONE PICOT
AKTATTER: THEN TAKE THE NUMBER THREE PICOT
AKTATTER: AND TAKE IT TO THE LEFT AND THROUGH THE #2 PICOT
AKTATTER: THEN #4 GOES THROUGH THE TO POF #3, #5 THRU #4 ETC.
AKTATTER: THIS IS WHAT PATTY DOWDEN HAS DONE IN HER PATTERN WHICH IS SHARED WITH US TODAY
Angela: sounds easy
AKTATTER: DOES EVERYONE SEE THE DIFFERENCE NOW?
Tine Vedder: y
Cynthia: yes
Angela: y
AKTATTER: OK
claudia: the overcrocheted use an auxiliar thread?
Norag: yes
AKTATTER: THE SAME THREAD THAT YOU WERE TATTING WITH CLAUDIA
AKTATTER: EXCEPT
Tine Vedder: yes?
Wally: yep, go it
AKTATTER: YOU CAN TAKE A DIFFERENT COLOR FOR CONTRAST
AKTATTER: OR
Tine Vedder: ok
AKTATTER: SILVER, GOLD OR METALLIC THREDS FOR HIGHLIGHTING
AKTATTER: OK
claudia: good idea, thanks
AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS SO FAR?
Wally: would look nice in a ring too
AKTATTER: PATTY WENT ONE STEP FURTHER IN HER PICOT
Wally: Oh, my brain!  lol  too many ideas now
AKTATTER: SHE HAS MADE THE PICOTS GRADUATE IN SIZE
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: IT IN INTRIGUING, ISN'T IT WALLY?
claudia: take it easy wally!! jaja
AKTATTER: TO DO THIS SHE FORMED A GAUGE O0UT OF PAPER AND CUT NOTCHES
Wally: Claudia knows what is coming to the challenges in Spanish.  :)
AKTATTER: IN IT
claudia: ohh noooooo
Norag: Yes, was wondering how it was done
AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE FIRST PHOTO
AKTATTER: THAT SHOWS THE GAUGE  IN PLACE
Tine Vedder: y
AKTATTER: TO REMOVE THE GAUGE
Norag: Wonder if she removed them one by one Georgia?
AKTATTER: BEND THE PAPER
Angela: I wonder how difficult it was to slip off the stitches with all those notches
AKTATTER: THEY SLIPPED OUT EASIER THAT WAY
Norag: picots i mean
AKTATTER: BEND THE PAPER  LOOSENS THE TENSION
Tine Vedder: m
AKTATTER: THEN TURN THE GAUGE AROUND
Angela: so you really want to be sure to use a paper guage for this
AKTATTER: FLATTEN IT OUT
AKTATTER: I THINK SO ANGLEA
Wally: I think that if you make a few and take them out and then do a few more will work the same but don't need to bend the gauge
AKTATTER: YOU ARE MIDWAY THROUGH THE HEART
Tine Vedder: y
AKTATTER: BEGIN TO MAKE MORE PICOTS AND FINISH THE RING
AKTATTER: OK
Tine Vedder: k
Angela: Victorian Set is a new stitch to me
AKTATTER: IT IS A LOVELY DESIGN ELEMENT ANGELA
Norag: ok
AKTATTER: PATTY THEN STARTED AT THE TOP OF THE HEART IN THE MIDDLE
Angela: I may need to practice
AKTATTER: AND BEGAN LACING THE PICOT TOGETS
Cynthia: it is easier to do than explain....4 first half of the double stitch then 4 second half of the double stitch
AKTATTER: SO THE SECOND FROM THE MIDDLE GOES THRU THE TOP OF THE #1 PICOT ON THELEFT SIDE
AKTATTER: THEN #3 PICOT THRU #2
Wally: ah, the victorian sets make the dimple on the ring, right?
AKTATTER: TRY TO KEEP THE PICOTS UNTWISTED HERE
Tine Vedder: y
Cynthia: yes and keep them from twisting
AKTATTER: THEY CAN MAKE A DIMPLE ON ARING
Hope Green from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 14 minutes ago
AKTATTER: THE STARTING THREAD COMES THRU THE LAST PICOT TO ANCHOR IT
AKTATTER: WELCOME HOPIE!
AKTATTER: THEN DO THE REVERSE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE HEART
Cynthia: claudia I keep getting failure on sending you the translation  Can you e-mail me after?
claudia: victorian sets?
Wally: Hopie!!!!  My girl, how are you?
Marie Smith: Hi Hope!
Cynthia: Hi Hope
MJB: hi hope
claudia: hi hope
Hope Green: they are so beautiful... had to take a time out & nudge Jane...
Cynthia: translation of the german to english
AKTATTER: VICTORIAN SETS = NODE STITCH = RICHRACK TATTING
Hope Green: Hi ALL!!  81 and lovely here in Tucson!!
Tine Vedder: hi
MJB: that's bad., we have cold weather
Cynthia: booooooo  hiiissssssssss  But I'm happy for you....
Norag: Victorian sets - could that be like lacing one ppicot to the next?
JaneEb from x.x.x.17 joined the chat 12 minutes ago
Marie Smith: We are getting snow tonight Hope - here in SC
Tine Vedder: hi Jane
Marie Smith: Hi Jane!
Hope Green: no way!!!
AKTATTER: DOES ANYONE HAVE ALINK FOR NODE STITCH?
JaneEb: Hi, guys.  I forgot to be here!!!
Hope Green: Hey JANE
MJB: Hello Jane
Wally: In Egypt is a lovely 65 degrees
AKTATTER: WELCOME AJNE!
Tine Vedder: ooooooooooooo Jane
Wally: I miss the snow!!!
Cynthia: no it is more the first half of the ds 4 tines then the second half of the ds 4 times or as per the directions
Cynthia: Hi Jane
JaneEb: Thanks for reminding the aged old git, Hope!!
claudia: have to review node stich and rickrack
AKTATTER: HERE ARE THE BASICS OF NODE STITCH
AKTATTER: ttp://images.needledreams2.multiply.com/image/1/photos/upload/300x300/SHn-XwoKCtYAAFVIIq41/img015.jpg?et=VP9tr%2Cog6QLIz8b7pr0PWg&nmid=0
MJB: j
Hope Green: I am trying to figure out this site- got in the visitor list and got lost.. roflol
AKTATTER: OOPS WRONG LINK
Hope Green: lol... no wonder it didn't work...
Cynthia: http://www.thisntat.com/misc_lessons1.html   here is one too
Norag: thanks cynthia. i'm a little slo sometimes
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/setstitch.html
AKTATTER: THANKS CYNTHIA
Cynthia: no I bet you are translating as you go...we type fast
Cynthia: welcome AK
claudia: thanks cynthia ,georgia
AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON INTERW3EAVING OR INTERLACING THE PICOTS?
Tine Vedder: no
Wally: nop
Angela: no
MJB: no
Marie Smith: no
Wally: Bummer, hubby came home.  Now I can't play all night with the interlaced picots.  lol
AKTATTER: OK THEN IN THE COMING WEEKS WE WILL
Hope Green: what awesome eye candy... hooray for class!!!
claudia: no
AKTATTER: REVIEW THE OVERCROCHETED PICOT WITH SOME FLOWERS BY HELMA SEIPMANN
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: AND WE WILL ALSO TRY OUT THIS INTERWEAVING SOME MORE
Cynthia: fun
Angela: ok
AKTATTER: NEXT WEEK WE DEBUT THE FIRST IN A SERIES OF PATTERNS BY ELLAN LAI
claudia: interesting
Cynthia: I can hardly wait to try the heart
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: WHOSE CHARMING PAPERCLIPS WERE SO DELIGHTFUL LAST YEAR
Tine Vedder: o nice
Angela: I'm ready
AKTATTER: WE WILL ALSO HAVE A MINIDRAGON BY ANNE BRUVOLD FROM NORWAY
MJB: Yes,I liked them too
Tine Vedder: k
claudia: where can we see themm?
Angela: great, I can't wait for the dragon
Cynthia: ooooooooohhhhhhhh what a teaser I can hardly wait
Tine Vedder: so can I
AKTATTER: HMM i DON'T HAVE ELLEN'S LINK HANDY WILL LOOK FOR IT
Wally: I tried to send again the pattern of the BD motif G.  Let me know if it arrived this time
Marie Smith: Sounds like we are going to have fun!
AKTATTER: AND WITH THE KIND PERMISSION OF THE GREAT AND CREATIVE JANE EBORALL
Cynthia: I'll second that!!!!
Angela: won't want to miss any     classes
AKTATTER: WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT SOME BEADED TATTING
AKTATTER: AND PLAY AROUND WITH SELF-CLOSING MOCK RINGS
Marie Smith: She is singtatter, I think?
Hope Green: oooohhhhh
claudia: well , so much work this year
Tine Vedder: oo verry nice
Wally: Here is the link.  This way is faster.  :-)  http://needles-n-shuttles.com/BDMotif2009.html
Hope Green: a tatter who sings???  mmmm
AKTATTER: MAIFOONG5 = ELLEN
MJB: Oh., Georgia., did you know the Randy and Gary has a new book out on SCMR
Angela: I think we will have a wonderful tatting year with all of this going on
AKTATTER: AND CELEBRATING WAWLLY BIRTHDAY NEXT WEEK, SHE HAS A PATTERN FOR US
Angela: cool
Tine Vedder: o
AKTATTER: OH MY THAT IS A MUST HAVE BOOK!!
Cynthia: awesome and thanks for sharing
claudia: yes!!
Cynthia: me too AK
AKTATTER: LOVELY PATTERN WALLY
Wally: Did someone mentioned new book?  Where do I sign to get it?  lol
AKTATTER: NOW DOES ANYONE KNOW WHEN SUPERBOWL SUNDAY IS?
MJB: Georgia., I will send the address for the book
AKTATTER: I WILL EMAIL GARY AFTER CLASS
AKTATTER: THANKS MJB
Tine Vedder: no I dont know
Hope Green: are we going to party??
AKTATTER: AS SOON AS I KNOW THE DATE, WE WILL HOST A SPECIAL EVENT ON SPUERBOWL SUNDAY
Cynthia: oh please.....,.
Norag: Look for book
DorcasAnn: Super Bowl, 1st Sun in Feb, I think
Angela: Might be Frb1
AKTATTER: AN ANNUAL TRADITION IN THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS
AKTATTER: ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?
marco: wat is georgia
Tine Vedder: m
marco: yes i am  back hihi
Cynthia: Super Bowl XLIII is on Sunday, Feb 1, 2009 - Kickoff time is 6:28pm EST
AKTATTER: ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS?
Tine Vedder: wb Marco
AKTATTER: SUPERBOWL mARCO? IT IS A FOOTBALL SPORTS GAME
Tine Vedder: no
Cynthia: I just found it...lol   I only want to tat
marco: yes i know
Wally: Man, I will miss it.  :-(
AKTATTER: OK ! FEB. 1 SPECIAL EVENT
marco: specisl evening  for the class?
claudia: special class???
marco: hope i do not have to work that evening?
AKTATTER: YES AN EXTRA MEETING TO CELEBRATE
Tine Vedder: on  super bowl ?
Cynthia: and tat away while those who watch football are ignoring us anyway
marco: yes
Marie Smith: What time for event?
AKTATTER: YES ON THAT DATE THE SUPERBOWL SUNDAY
marco: haha
Wally: The special class will be one or two sessions?
AKTATTER: EXACTLY!
AKTATTER: 2 SESSIONS
Hope Green: marco- do you watch the game??
Norag: afternoonand evening?
MJB: Happy Early Birthday Wally
Hope Green: I usually go in the room so I can be alerted for the neat commercials.
claudia: wally superbowl. futbol americano?
Wally: so I'll need to reschedule the Spanish class for Monday or Saturday.
Wally: so I'll need to reschedule the Spanish class for Monday or Saturday.
Wally: Thanks!
Wally: sip, el futbol americano.  es como la copa FIFA.  un super evento
marco: no i dont watch it
AKTATTER: NO, WALLY i CAN GO BEFORE OR AFTER YOUR CLASS
claudia: ok
Norag: on same day?
marco: i think  we get a cmpilation of the best 5  minutes  or so
claudia: before please!!!
marco: here in the  netherlands
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Wally: nah, it's ok.  So I don't miss the event.
Tine Vedder: m
AKTATTER: HOW ABOUT WE GO AT 2pm et AND YOU GO AT REGULAR TIME 3pm et?
Wally: I can go at 4 pm then
marco: 2 pm  ny time?
Wally: that gives you 2 hours
claudia: di que si wally?
Cynthia: sorry I bounced myself off   I wanted to say thanks to wally for the bd motif it is beautiful
marco: that wil be 8 o cloch in the  evening overhere?
AKTATTER: OK WITH ME WALLY
Wally: for me will be like 11 pm, still fine with me
AKTATTER: YES 2 pm et (NEW YORK TIME)
Hope Green: where are you Marco?
marco: i am in hthe netherlands
Wally: si clau, primero G y despues nosotros
claudia: thanks ,
AKTATTER: OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS??
claudia: mucho frivolite ese dia!!!
AKTATTER: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR STOPPING BY
Wally: You're welcome Cynthia.  :-)
AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TOPATTY FOR HER GREAT HEART PATTERN
Hope Green: Hugs to all...
AKTATTER: AND TO WALLY FOR HER BIRTHDAY PATTERN TOO
claudia: thanks all
MJB: thanks for class
Hope Green: What an awesome heart!!
DorcasAnn: Thanks for a good class
Wally: ese dia hay mucho futbol en EU y para nosotros mucho frivolite
Cynthia: Claudia please send me your addy  mine is brasthatfit@yahoo.com   thanks
Norag: Thank you for an intesesting class, georgia
Marie Smith: bye everyone!
marco: i will  try  the  hart this  week
marco: ybe saterday
AKTATTER: THIS LESSON REPEATS AT 8:30PM TONIGH, ET nEW YORK TIME
claudia: cloelo@gmail.com  this is  cynthia┤
Hope Green: bye Marie.. enjoy the snow... lol
marco: than tine will be visiting me!!
claudia: thanks cynthia
Wally: I will try to do my homework tonight.  Hubby is cooking.  That gives me some time.  :-)
Tine Vedder: on sattrday
marco: great hubby!!
Tine Vedder: t this nicht
Cynthia: I'll try again...thanks claudia
AKTATTER: GOOD BY ALL AND HAPPY TATTING
Wally: Thanbks for the class!  Gotta go.  Have a great night everyone!
Norag: Bye folks
marco: Bye georgia
Angela: bye
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Cynthia: peace
Tine Vedder: thanks Georgia
marco: bye  to all the  other ones
marco: ave a grea tatting week

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The Online Tatting Class
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AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 cleared the room 27 minutes ago
AKTATTER: Jan. 19, 2009 evening session
Paule: Allo Allo !!! Where has everybody goneeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!  Help!
lingram21: I'm here.
Ginny: We are still here
Paule: Thank the Lord!
AKTATTER: It's ok Paule, when I clear out th eold log the screen goes blank no problems
Yohan23: I'm here too!
Sherong: Georgia cleared previous chat info so log would only have class stuff
Paule: Whew!
AKTATTER: good to see you all here
AKTATTER: welcome back yohan
AKTATTER: Teresa good to see you and sheron too
Yohan23: Thank you, I finally figured out how to do this!
Mimi from x.x.x.11 joined the chat 25 minutes ago
AKTATTER: that's great, it's not so hard I think in this new classroom
Sherong: She does give warning now but doesn't wait until we all see it
AKTATTER: welcome mimi
Marie de la Chaume from x.x.x.156 joined the chat 25 minutes ago
Mimi: Hello all
TeresaW: Hi, Mimi.
Winkerbill: Hi Mimi!
Marie de la Chaume: Finally able to join...
AKTATTER: I added two links to the page this afternoon
Marie de la Chaume: Hello all!
AKTATTER: Wally's birthday pattern and a photo of her hibiscus flower with overcrocheted picots
AKTATTER: Steph good to see you here Marie glad the computer is hanging in there
TeresaW: The interlaced picots from Patty Dowden certainly look interesting. I also really like Wally's 2009 Birthday motif. I really ought to go back through the years and printout all her BD motifs.
Paule: Hey Marie, parlez-vous franšais?
AKTATTER: yes that would be a good thing to do TW why not do that and make a list for us to share at the FEb. special event
Winkerbill: Glad to be here.  It's been a tough summer and fall....and winter, so far.
lingram21: beautiful hibicus

PattyD from x.x.x.172 left this message 23 minutes ago:
Hi Georgia!  I made it to class at last!
TeresaW: Okey, dokey ...
AKTATTER: Feb. 1 Superbowl Sunday special event 2PM and 7PM ET (New York time)
AKTATTER: great Patty, please scroll down to the bottom and click join chat
tataconic from x.x.x.100 joined the chat 22 minutes ago
tataconic: I'm here!
AKTATTER: Erin!!! long time no read
Winkerbill: ohhhh, I can hardly wait!  Supertatting Sunday!
Cynthia from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 22 minutes ago
Noony: In Ms. Dowden's design, what is the lace being made over?  Is that a piece of bone?
AKTATTER: wb cynthia
Cynthia: Hi Steph and everyone
AKTATTER: it is a piece of paper
Winkerbill: hi Cynthia!
Cynthia: thanks
AKTATTER: Patty are you still there?
Sherong: She folds it to get it out
PattyD from x.x.x.172 joined the chat 21 minutes ago
Noony: Wow!  So, essentially, it could be any design, yes?
AKTATTER: wb Patty
Sherong: Might want to use a business card or other card stock
AKTATTER: yes nonny that is just the idea, a wonderful concept
Marie de la Chaume: Paule, oui, je SUIS francaise!
AKTATTER: quilt template
katie Verna/occhitat from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 20 minutes ago
Noony: Is that like making hairpin lace?  It looks almost like the template one would use when making that.
AKTATTER: welcome Katie
TeresaW: Hi, Katie!
katie Verna/occhitat: Hi, all.  So good to be back.
Noony: Wrap the thread or yarn, and make the stitches in the center.
AKTATTER: no noony it is just regular tatting
PattyD: Yes, this being my first time, I just sat here!!!  You have the idea correctly.  It's very simple.
Marie de la Chaume: Hello Georgia, its very late and very cold for me...
Noony: Wow!
AKTATTER: you are just lifting the picots over the gauge
Marie de la Chaume: And got kicked out half an hour ago!
Noony: And did you make the knots with a crochet hook, or a tatting shuttle?  Or a needle?
Cynthia: all the old regulars and some newbies also...maybe I just haven't met them yet....and they are just friends
Sherong: Hairpin lace has loops on both sides not just one
AKTATTER: I am so glad that you could make it
Noony: Oh!
Noony: Yes, I see.
Marie de la Chaume: me too!
AKTATTER: with a tatting shuttle or tatting needle
AKTATTER: right sheron
TeresaW: finger tatting too.
AKTATTER: The class did a study of hairpin lace and tatting some months ago
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/hp/hairpin.html
Noony: Excellent!
katie Verna/occhitat: k
Noony: you!
Noony: Uh, I meant, "thank" you.  :)
Marie de la Chaume: k
PattyD: Noony, the shape could be anything.  I just wanted to show one where I could play the little folding trick.
clesliea from x.x.x.52 joined the chat 18 minutes ago
Marie B from x.x.x.224 joined the chat 18 minutes ago
AKTATTER: ok it is time to sign in
Marie de la Chaume: :-)
TeresaW: Teresa Woods, tattingteresa@gmail.com, Mount Holly, NC
Mimi: Mimi Dillman, Snohomish, WA USA, ntrop@ix.netcom.com
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM
Marie de la Chaume: Marie de la Chaume, icollas @ free.fr, France
Marie B: Marie B, newbie, from So. Calif.
katie Verna/occhitat: Katie Verna, Creedmoor NC, katie@r-v-r.com
AKTATTER: tHE NEW INDEX IS
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK USA brasthatfit@yahoo.com
PattyD: Patty Dowden pattyd@netwiz.net Santa Clara CA
Noony: A. Catherine Noon Chicago Illinois USA a_catherine_noon@yahoo.com
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html
tataconic from x.x.x.100 joined the chat 17 minutes ago
AKTATTER: oURLINKS FOR TONIGHT ARE
Sherong: Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/nnhistorytat.html
Winkerbill: Stephanie W.  iin western North Carolina USA  trompeter914 #at# gmail dot com
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf
clesliea: Connie Angeline atlantic city nj clesliea@aol.com
tataconic: erin holloway, knoxville, tn, tataconic@bellsouth.net
Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotron.ca
AKTATTER: AH HA I SEE CONNIE ANGELINE
vidalia: LKalexander2005@yahoo.com
AKTATTER: CONNIE IS THE TATTER WHO REQUESTED THIS TOPIC OF OVERCROCHETED PICOTS!
clesliea: Hello Georgia
AKTATTER: THIS IS VERY INTERESTING CONNIE i AM GLAD THAT YOU COUL DBE HERE
clesliea: Me Too
Cynthia: thank you Connie
Marie de la Chaume: :-)
AKTATTER: VIDALIA, WE HAVE A PATTERN NAMED AFTER YOU
Winkerbill: is this the topic for the year?  Overcrocheted picots?  I've seen that sort of thing in some of my older books.
AKTATTER: THE SWEET VIDALIA ONION RING ANGEL ANYONE REMEMBER IT?
vidalia: Ooh, can't wait to see it...
Sherong: Yes
clesliea: yes
AKTATTER: JUST TO START US OUT STEPH
tataconic: I do!  It's a wally pattern!
AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK FIRST AT THE HISTORY NOTES PLEASE
Winkerbill: ok.  :-)
Marie de la Chaume: ˘-˘
Cynthia: yes and it is beautiful
AKTATTER: tHIS IS SHARED IWTH US BY THE FOLKS AT NORDIC NEEDLE.
Angela from x.x.x.159 joined the chat 14 minutes ago
AKTATTER: IT IS VERYINTERESTING READ
AKTATTER: JUST A COUPLE OF THINGS TO NOTE
lingram21: Linda Barnes, Woodbridge, Va  lingram21@gmail.com
AKTATTER: IT IS CALLED A KNOTTED LACE
AKTATTER: WELCOME LINDA
AKTATTER: AND OF COURSE WE ALL KNOW THAT IF YOU MAKE A KNOT YOU ARE NOT TATTING
Angela: Angela  Miracle, Lupton, MI aanjel51@yahoo.com
lingram21: thank
lingram21: you
AKTATTER: ALSO THE LACE WORK BY MARY GRANVILL DELANY
AKTATTER: ON THOSE CHARI COVERS WAS NOT TATTING
AKTATTER: BUT KNOTTED CORD WORK
Marie de la Chaume: ÷*÷
AKTATTER: SEE TATMEISTER WEBSITE FOR FULL DETAILS
TeresaW: Depends on the 'knot' I would think. Aren't most "laces" looped, i.e., bobbin, crochet, knit?
AKTATTER: I LIKE "LOOPED" SO WOULS LOOPYLACER LOL
Noony: I have Barbara G. Walker's knitting reference here with a lace definition (knitted), if you'd like it.
lingram21 from x.x.x.33 joined the chat 11 minutes ago
TeresaW: Tatmeister' site: http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/
AKTATTER: THAT WOULD BE NEAT
AKTATTER: NKS TW
katie Verna/occhitat: k
AKTATTER: GEE IF I TYPE TOO FAT IS SKIPS SOME WORDS
PattyD: Bobbin Lace is woven, Crochet and Knitting are looped.  And sneaking in a contrarian point of view, I DO think Tatting is made of knots!
AKTATTER: DO YOU THINK IS I TYPE SLOWER IT WILL HELP CURE MY TYPO-ITIS?
Paule: yes
Marie de la Chaume: tatting is the english word, I see no mention of the french Frivolite, which is also used in spanish... even though it is not a spanish word
tataconic: Teresa, I would think so except for macrame (the teensy kind like they did at the turn of the century).
TeresaW: Never has mine. ROFLMAO.
AKTATTER: THE NOTES ALSO CALL THE DOUBLE STITCH A SQUARE KNOT WHICH IT IS NOT
AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO THOSE FOLKS FOR SHARING WITH US
katie Verna/occhitat: k
Cynthia: should someone correct their information?
Winkerbill: I thought the DS was a lark's head knot....?
PattyD: Well.... you can flip a square knot and get a DS
tataconic: Georgia,  your typos are what make the class "extra special" sometimes!
Cynthia: Or would that be too pushy?
vidalia: I did macrame many years ago and tatting is alot like it...I thing
AKTATTER: aNITRA ALREADY WROTE IN
Marie Smith from x.x.x.110 joined the chat 9 minutes ago
Winkerbill: oh yeah, I've flipped square knots to pick them out sometimes....
AKTATTER: THANKS ERIN I AM TO ENTERTAIN
Cynthia: good
TeresaW: Hi, Marie.
Winkerbill: Hi Marie!
Marie Smith: Hi everyone!
vidalia: Hi Marie
tataconic: Marie!
AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIE
katie Verna/occhitat: Hi, Marie
clesliea: Hello Marie
AKTATTER: AND NOW THE LESSON
Marie de la Chaume: I have an idea of classifying tatting in the weaving science. Just like bobbin lace, knitting and tatting... we only use 2 movements, who combine infinitely
Marie de la Chaume: Hello Marie
AKTATTER: AFTER CONNIE'S RE
Marie Smith: Hi Marie Marie B: Thank you so very much for the warm welcome! I thought I was so ALONE in my love of tatting! Marie Smith: Hi Steph! AKTATTER: I SOON FOUND THAT THAT WE DID NOT ALL HAVE A GOOD IDEA OF WHAT THE TERM MEANT Marie Smith: Hi Georgia AKTATTER: THAT IS A LOVELY DEFINITION AKTATTER: SO TO START PLEASE LOOK AT THE HIBISCUS BY WALLY SOSA clesliea: Love that hibiscus AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/wallyshisbisus.jpg AKTATTER: THAT IS AN EXAMPLE OF OCP lingram21: just beautiful! AKTATTER: THEN COMPARE THAT TO RIET'S HOMEOWRK OF PATTY'S HEART PATTERN Noony: I get an error when I click on the picture. Marie de la Chaume: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/wallyshibiscus.jpg Noony: er, link. AKTATTER: THAT IS INTERWOVEN OF INTERLACED PICOTS tataconic: Not to be confused with OCD. Noony: Got it, thanks Marie! TeresaW: Erin, the alphabet soup is getting pretty deep now. tataconic: Snicker. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/rietheartpdowdenpicots.jpg Cynthia: we need spoons PattyD: Tee Hee OCD is Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, OCP is Over Crocheted Picots! ;*) AKTATTER: LOL PERHAPS THO TATTERS HAVE A TOUCH OF OCD???? tataconic: Which may lead to OCD. TeresaW: I resemble that!! Mimi: what if you're OCD about OCP?? Paule from x.x.x.246 joined the chat PattyD: No me! I just like it! lingram21: I was wondering about OCD...lol tataconic: Great minds, Georgia! Marie de la Chaume: o*o AKTATTER: I CAN'T SLEEP AR NIGHT UNLESS I KNOW WHERE ALL MY SHUTTLES ARE Marie Smith from x.x.x.110 joined the chat lingram21: there you go again Teresa...LoL AKTATTER: OK NOW WE RECOGNIZE THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN vidalia: I think all tatters have OCD or it definitely leads to it.... PattyD: Well if you sleep ON your shuttles, you won't sleep well. AKTATTER: THE OCP AND THE INTERWOVEN/INTERLACED PICOTS lingram21: lol Patty vidalia: LOL Noony: Question. AKTATTER: TO ACHIEVE THE OCP LOOK AS IN GINA BRUMMETS EGG Noony: Is the OCP made with a crochet hook? AKTATTER: YES?? Sherong: Answer clesliea: Well No I'm definitely not sure of the difference between crocheted and interwoven Marie Smith: I woke up yesterday and still had my shuttles in my hand! AKTATTER: http://threadsofatattinggoddess.blogspot.com/EE14.jpg Marie de la Chaume: ░j░ AKTATTER: ON THIS DRESS AKTATTER: http://tinyurl.com/7xmj3t Sherong: You can use the crochet hook to lace the picots AKTATTER: YES NOONY Sherong: Or a shuttle pick Noony: I see. So the interwoven picots are tatted, with a shuttle, presumably, yes? Sherong: Or anything sharp AKTATTER: OK CONNIE LOOK AT THE TOPS OF THE PICOTS ON THE EGG katie Verna/occhitat: k TeresaW: I think the difference is clear on the German site that Georgia has on the index. http://www.occhi-world.de/uehoer.htm. AKTATTER: YOU CAN DEFINTELY SEE THE TELLTALE FORMATION OF A CROCHET STITCH Sherong: Tat leaving picots. Go back and weave the picots AKTATTER: YES HELMA SEIPMAN'S HOW TO PAGE IS VERY CLEAR TAKE A LOOK AT IT PattyD: The difference is that Overcrocheted Picots uses a separate thread to crochet into each picot, while interlaced picots draw each picot loop through the previous picot loop. Noony: Neine Deutche sprechen. :) Winkerbill: on the dress, are they actually CROCHETED, as in "single crochet" (US terminology) in each picot, or are they just laced, as in ....finishing the edges of a pot holder - remember the pot holders many of us made when we were little kids....? clesliea: Oh now I get it AKTATTER: PRECISELY RIGHT PATTY! Sherong: Go there through Google and you can get English pages clesliea: Interlaced are like the finishing on potholders we used to make on looms as a kid Noony: Danke. Winkerbill: ok, so it's BOTH - you can either crochet into each picot OR you can lace one into the next.... AKTATTER: OK NOW WITH THIS FIRMLY INMIND LET US LOOK AT PATTY DOWDEN'S PATTERN Winkerbill: Got it! Winkerbill: THanks TeresaW: bitte Sherong: Over crocheted vs interlaced Cynthia: different techniques for different effects Sherong: Different look TeresaW: It's a lovely pattern, Patty! Marie de la Chaume: Thanks, quite precious, this difference between over crochetted and interlaced! Hope Green from x.x.x.232 joined the chat 2 seconds ago Sherong: Crochet keeps shape better without starch TeresaW: Hopie!!! katie Verna/occhitat from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 2 seconds ago katie Verna/occhitat: Hi, Hopie. Cynthia: both are good just different tataconic: HopieLoo TeresaW: Depends on the effect you want to communicate. Marie de la Chaume: ░J░ clesliea: Ok if you crochet them where do you get the thread to crochet and how do you finish the thread AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf Noony: I see, you are using the template to create the interlacing as you create the design. Noony: Rather than crocheting into the picots later. Noony: Am I with you? katie Verna/occhitat: k Cynthia: use the same thread as you tat with and finish as you will Marie de la Chaume: this is beautiful! AKTATTER: EVERYONE PLEASE DO NOT TYPE FOR 1 MINUTE PattyD: You would add a thread and have to finish the ends like any other ends in tatting. Find a place to hide them and make them disappear. stitchingsharon from x.x.x.15 joined the chat 3 seconds ago The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Jan 20 02:23:27 2009 GMT (16 KB) Page 1 of 1 - Char 1 to 16936 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 cleared the room 18 minutes ago AKTATTER: WOW WE FILLED UP THE LOG SO FAST I HAD TO COPY IT MANUALLY TO SAVE IT! lingram21: is class over? tataconic: gotta go - sis on the telephone. lingram21: oh ok Sherong: Ahhhh - saved the log and cleared it out Cynthia: wb everyone AKTATTER: SO WELCOME SHARON tataconic: Bye everybody! BJ from x.x.x.141 joined the chat 17 minutes ago clesliea: Hello BJ Cynthia: I had just saved it too AKTATTER: LET'S START WITH PATTY'S PATTERN BJ: Hi katie Verna/occhitat: that was nuts! AKTATTER: PATTY WOULD YOU LIKE TO TELL US A BIT ABOUT IT? Cynthia: ok BJ: I'm late Hope Green: hey bj lingram21: hi BJ BJ: Hey Hopie AKTATTER: WELCOME BJ Marie de la Chaume: Hello BJ BJ: I'm not late? AKTATTER: HI HOPIE Winkerbill: hi BJ BJ: hello All Marie Smith: Hey, Big Sis AKTATTER: ALWAYS WELCOME HERE BJ: Hey Lil sis Marie Smith: Hey, Steph Hope Green: Patty- what a neat pattern AND write up!! Cynthia: a bit BJ but we just started a new section AKTATTER: IS PATTY THERE? PattyD: I had seen Helma Siepmann's work and had played with it a bit. When Georgia asked for patterns, this pattern just came to me. Winkerbill: hi Marie stitchingsharon: Hello everyone. I almost forgot about tonight's class BJ: oh sigh good AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf AKTATTER: THAT IS GREAT PATTY BJ: ooooh I love Siepmann's free tatting AKTATTER: I SEE THAT YOU CREATED A VERY UNIQUE PICOT GAUGE stitchingsharon: waht a neat heart! Paule: Patty when you say you gauge was 1.5 inches, is it total? PattyD: Yeah, there's a reason I make things up, ask me how well I follow directions! Marie de la Chaume: Sorry, I'm going, too late, too cold... Lots of love and I'll read you in the morning! lingram21: night Marie AKTATTER: LOL OK WELL NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION THEY HAVE ALWAYS SAID PattyD: Yes, the gauge is 1.5 inches end to end lingram21: keep warm AKTATTER: GOONIGHT MARIE Cynthia: by and stay warm Marie Smith: Bye Marie TeresaW: night Marie. Glad t meet you! katie Verna/occhitat: Bonne nuit, Marie Hope Green: what kind of paper?? Cynthia: card stock? AKTATTER: WE WERE SUGGESTING CARD STOCK OR QUILT TEMPLATE, SOMETHING BENDABLE PattyD: Yes, card stock. Don't want it too thick, remember, you will fold it. Noony: Does firmness matter? AKTATTER: OK PATTY YOU MADE NOTCHES IN THE CURVED PICOT GAUGE TeresaW: Sue Hanson would suggest the plastic from milk or water jugs. BJ: like Tag board Noony: Oh. AKTATTER: TO HOLD THE PICOTS IN PLACE WHILE TATTING Noony: Withdraw my question. :) clesliea: k Paule: you mean birthday cards? lingram21: index card Winkerbill: Marie I think of you almost every day - whenever I do a split chain....now that I can DO them reliably, it's FUN. :-) AKTATTER: AND TATTED THE PICOTS WITH 1 DS BETWEEN THEM Cynthia: could be or business card PattyD: The curves are pretty steep and the picots slide off. The notches are for traction. AKTATTER: RIGHT PAULE stitchingsharon: k katie Verna/occhitat: k Marie Smith: Wonderful Steph! AKTATTER: THEN WHEN YOU HAVE FINISHED THE FIRST HALF OF THE HEART AKTATTER: WE BEND THE GAUGE AND SLIP THE PICOTS OFF lingram21: k AKTATTER: AT THE HEART'S CLEAVAGE Winkerbill: Nice to have a face and voice to go with the technique....a picture of a person in my head, sort of.... :-) PattyD: Getting a little racy, aren't we? AKTATTER: WE MAKE A VERY SMALL PICOT AND TAT 1 AKTATTER: THEN A VICTORIAN SET OF 4 1HS / 4 2HS lingram21: I was thinking that... AKTATTER: LOL WELL TATTING DOES LOOK WELL ON LINGERIE! lingram21: yes, it does AKTATTER: AGAIN A VERY SMALL PICOT AND TAT 1 lingram21: k AKTATTER: FOR INFO ON VITORIAN SETS, NODER STITCH OR RICKRACK TATTING AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/setstitch.html vidalia from x.x.x.54 joined the chat 10 minutes ago AKTATTER: WB VIDALIA AKTATTER: NOW WE FLATTEN OUT THE PICOT GAUGE AND REVERSE IT Hope Green: ' AKTATTER: IS THAT RIGHT PATTY SO FAR? katie Verna/occhitat: k PattyD: Yup BJ: Great photos of this on the pdf AKTATTER: OK TAT THE SECOND SIDE OF THE HEART PattyD: tx AKTATTER: YES THEY ARE DETAILED Cynthia: and nice stitchingsharon: k PattyD: tx 2x AKTATTER: TO DO THE INTERLACING AKTATTER: BEGIN AT THE "CLEAVAGE" :) AKTATTER: AND WORK DOWN ONE SIDE AT A TIME AKTATTER: BEGIN WITH THE VERY SMALL PICOT Marie Smith: I really like the interlaced look! AKTATTER: THAT IS PICOT #1 katie Verna/occhitat: k clesliea from x.x.x.52 joined the chat 7 minutes ago AKTATTER: BRING THE TOP OF PICOT #2 THRU #1 AKTATTER: WB CONNIE lingram21: k clesliea: How I love vista AKTATTER: THEN PICOT #3 THROUGH #2 AKTATTER: #4 THRU #5 AND CONTINUE stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: LOL THE WONDERS OF MODERN COMPUTERS vidalia: Me too. Mine froze up when she cleared the room. Sherong: No - 4 through 3 AKTATTER: TRY TO PREVENT THE PICOTS FROM TWISTING IN THE HEART PattyD: yes Sherong: Which browser? I use FireFox and no freeze up AKTATTER: RIGHT SHREON #4 THROUGH #3, #5 THRU #4 #6 THRU #5 AND CONTINUE Paule: So that is interlaced? vidalia: Not sure, my DH bought this ... AKTATTER: AND YOU REPEAT ON THE LEFT SIDE AND SMOOTH OUT THE PICOTS Paule: Not crocheted? PattyD: Re: Twisting --- Each picot has 2 legs. Go under or over the right leg consistently. AKTATTER: YES THIS IS INTERWOVEN OR INTERLACED PICOTS lingram21: k katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: NOT CROCHETED NOT OCP Sherong: Browser is it Internet Explorer? If yes ask him to get Firefox AKTATTER: ANY OTHER TIPS TO SHARE WITH US PATTY? clesliea: If a pattern calls for OCP could you substitute interwoven? Angela from x.x.x.159 left the chat 4 minutes ago Paule: Patty, Flora #10 is fairly big is it not? stitchingsharon: what is OCP BJ: define OCP for the late comer LOL Marie Smith: Firefox is free. I like it, too AKTATTER: WHY NOT BUT EXPECT A TOTALLY DIFFERENT LOOK AKTATTER: OVER CROCHETED PICOT = OCP TeresaW: Over Crocheted Picots Winkerbill: I'm wondering if there's a way you could tat a chain instead of crocheting, especially for the OCP kind.... TeresaW: Sorry, GA vidalia: I have internet Explorer, I'll look ninto Firefox. thanks, BJ: Esp. since I don't crochet....LOL AKTATTER: ACTUALLY YOU CAN REALLY TAT OVER OF THE TOPS OF THE PICOTS PattyD: Very fine thread creates such small effects that it can be disappointing. (sorry, got a call) TeresaW: Tatting a chain and using lock (shuttle) joins would be another variation. Sherong: Check out Cro-Tat. Paule: oh? AKTATTER: AND CREATE A LOOK SIMILAR TOT HE OCP BJ: encapsulate? AKTATTER: YOU USE NEEDLE AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE stitchingsharon: so overcrocheted would use another thread and stitch them together?? Where interwoven just weaves them together without adding more thread? clesliea: I suspect I could crochet a chain. Used to finger crochet as a kid BJ: oh ok gotcha Winkerbill: I was thinking about trying to tat a chain and using lock joins into the picots.... AKTATTER: AND WRAP DS OVER THE TOP OF THE PICOT PattyD: Winkerbill, that's brilliant! clesliea: Oh Winkerbill that would look great AKTATTER: RIGHT SHARON A GOOD EXPLANATION BJ: as we did with the other exercise? AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS FOR PATTY? clesliea: No just thanks for a great pattern AKTATTER: btw PATTY IS A CONTRIBUTING DESIGNER FOR THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND RAISING BOOKLET Mimi: Yes indeed thanks for the writeup! Winkerbill: nice pattern! Good idea to cut the notches to keep the picots from slipping on the cardstock, too. PattyD: You are all most welcome. I need inspiration, too! BJ: And a neat technique Cynthia: Thanks Patty I look forward to playing with it katie Verna/occhitat: thanks, Patty! Marie Smith: I love the pattern Patty! AKTATTER: "fLOWERS OF LACE PUT A SMILE ON YOUR FACE" clesliea: By the way I cut notches in cards to measure bare thread space, works great for that too PattyD: I'm blushing now .... AKTATTER: tERESA WHAT IS THE LINK TO THE INFO ABOUT THAT BOOK? PattyD: I'm blushing now .... AKTATTER: tERESA WHAT IS THE LINK TO THE INFO ABOUT THAT BOOK? Winkerbill: Georgia - you got a minute after class? We can figure out where I am in the Bocher book....the medallion, I mean....if you have time. Hope Green: ' stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: SRUE STEPH Winkerbill: ok....I'll run get my stack of papers....brb katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: tERESA GONE? Noony: Thank you for such a wonderful experience. Noony: You ladies are incredible. AKTATTER: WELL WE ALL APPRECIATE YOU RHELP THEN AS TONIGHT AKTATTER: GLAD YOU JOINED US NONNY lingram21: gotta go, night all. thanks agian Georgia and Patty AKTATTER: ANY MORE QUESTIONS? Sherong: Go to the front page of the group, <www,palmettotatters.org> and it shows up there AKTATTER: NIGHT LINDA Cynthia: A quick reminder for the beginners the beginning class is Thursday...we do more explanations and go slower lingram21: good night all AKTATTER: COMEING SOON WE HAVE MORE ON THE OCP Mimi: Slower we hope :) PattyD: 'night Winkerbill: I"m back with my papers.... TeresaW: No, not gone sending an e-mail. Info on Flowers of Lace: 2 places: palmettotatters.org or send me a email at tattingteresa@gmail.com AKTATTER: WORK IWTH JANE EBORALL AND BEADS AND TEH SELF-CLOSING MOCK RING clesliea: Oh great I just love the OCP Cynthia: we try to go slower but our new tatters are in a hurry to learn AKTATTER: GOOD I HOPE YOU WILL ALL GET A COPY OF THAT BOOK IT IS GREAT AKTATTER: THE FLOWERS OF THE MONTH ARE ALL DELIGHTFUL Cynthia: it is incredible I got me one...I tat slow so it will be awhile AKTATTER: AND WE HAVE A MINIDRAGON FLYING IN FROM NORWAY stitchingsharon: k Winkerbill: oh cool! Marie B: Thank you. Good night. AKTATTER: AND JAN. 26 BEGINS THE 12 MONTH PROJECT BY ELLEN LAI AKTATTER: A DESGING FOR EACH MONTH katie Verna/occhitat: k Cynthia: ooo that will be fun... Sherong: Tell us more about that AKTATTER: THERE IS ALSO A SPECIAL EVENT clesliea: Love her tatting AKTATTER: NIGHT MARIE Winkerbill: definitely - tell us more! AKTATTER: SUPERBOWL SUNDAY FEB. 1 AT 2PM AND 7PM Cynthia: :) is all I can think to type clesliea: Maybe we could convince her to share her flower pattern AKTATTER: OF COURSE, WE STILL NEED LOTS OF PATTERNS Cynthia: I can hardly wait. I'm going to let the beginning class know too AKTATTER: TEH BOCHER BOOK STEPH JUST MENTIONED AKTATTER: IS OFF TO A GREAT START Paule: Theresa, are Gary's fund raisers still available? AKTATTER: WE HAVE LOTS OF PAGES IN ENGLISH Yohan23: Was there a pattern tonight/my computer didn't do anything for awhile. AKTATTER: ALREADY AND SOEM MODELS ARE BEING PREPARED TOO Noony: I found a copy of Tatting: the contemporary art of knotting with a shuttle, by Rhonda L. Auld, at my library in a sale. TeresaW: Yes, I still have several available. Noony: It's got some incredible patterns and modern interpretations. Sherong: Found lots of them on the wayback machine AKTATTER: YES YOHAN GO TO: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/2009index.html clesliea: Great find Noony AKTATTER: THEN CHECK THE LINKS FOR PATTY PATTERN AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2009/pdowdeninterlacedpicotheart.pdf Yohan23: Thank you. Mimi: Georgia didn't you make some copies of the Boucher book, or am I thinking of another giant (11x17) book? AKTATTER: FYOU CAN FIND THE LESSO INFO THERE Sherong: Riego books AKTATTER: AND TEH LOG WILL BE POSTED AFTER CLASS Cynthia: it can be a challenge to print...took me 3 tries....before it would save and print Noony: Do you have time for a question? AKTATTER: YES i COPIED THE ORIGINAL FRENCH BOOK FOR SEVERAL AKTATTER: BUT ROSE ROGERS DID THE TRANSLATION AND POSTED AKTATTER: THE ENTIRE BOOK ONLIN Mimi: ah, that's right. It's the French version I have. katie Verna/occhitat: k AKTATTER: BUT SINCE SHE DISAPPEARED THE BOOK DID TOO EXCEPT FOR THE WAYBACK MACHINE Paule: Theresa I sent you a message about them a while ago; did hyou receive it? AKTATTER: AND THE PAGES WHICH SOME OF US SAVED AKTATTER: SURE NONNY TeresaW: Paule, let me check. brb Noony: When attaching a tatted border to a garment, say the neckline of a cotton blouse, how would you do it? Machine stitch it? Winkerbill: I sew it by hand AKTATTER: WOW I WOULDN'T EVER MACHINE STITCH IT MYSELF stitchingsharon: k Cynthia: brb AKTATTER: BUT THAT MAY BE BECAUSE I AM SEWING MACHINE CHALLENGED Noony: What stitch do you use? Sherong: Hand stitch not machine Noony: LOL AKTATTER: I SEW MINE ON BY HAND ALWAYS Noony: Couch it? Or backstitch? Sherong: Gilian had a book on attaching lace Noony: Or something else? TeresaW: Paule, I sent a reply but it was returned to me by your domain. Try this address: rtwoods@att.net maybe I can answer you via that one. AKTATTER: I MOST OFTEN HAVE A ROLLED EDGE SO I HAD THE THREAD INSIDE THE TUNNEL AN D DO A SIMPLE BASTING clesliea: Yes I have that clesliea: One neat method I have seen is to run a thread thru the topmost picots Winkerbill: I hide the thread inside the hem if I'm sewing something to the edge. Don't know what hand sewing stitches are called, though.... Sherong: Did that with pillowcases also AKTATTER: I HAVEN'T SEEN THAT BOOK BUT i HAVE S FEW PHOTOS OF EXAMPLES OF ATTCHING LACE IF YOU WANT TO EMAIL ME NOONY clesliea: then buttonhole stitch clesliea: that thread to the edge of the garment Paule: Will do Theresa Noony: Yes, please Georgia. I'll email you. stitchingsharon: k Winkerbill: I try to make my stitches invisible as much as possible and if it's sewn to the edge of something but the tatting is actually ON the fabric, I stitch every picot down (which can be a real pain when there are tons of picots) AKTATTER: OK THEN LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? AKTATTER: IT HAS TO BE DONE FOR EXHIBITION WORK TOO Winkerbill: you want me to stay in teh classroom to compare notes on teh Bocher book or call you? vidalia: Yes, will there be a log of this chat? clesliea: Thanks Georgia for this topic Yohan23: Good night Cynthia: thanks AK I appreciate your time AKTATTER: THANK YOU FOR SUGGESTING IT THERE IS LOTS MORE OF IT TO COME AKTATTER: YES VIDALIA IT IS POSTED RIGHT AFTER CLASS Winkerbill: I sure have missed being able to come to class! clesliea: I can't wait TeresaW: Good night everyone. Really had a great time! Winkerbill: Things should be getting "better" soon, I hope. AKTATTER: CALL ME STEPH IN A FEW MINUTES AFTER CLASS Winkerbill: Tonight was fun. Winkerbill: Ok, will do. Sherong: Nite all Paule: Good night AKTATTER: I AM SO GLAD TO SEE YOU ALL HERE TONIGHT Cynthia: tatting class is like an addiction we don't do well without our fix AKTATTER: THANKS AGAIN PATTY katie Verna/occhitat: thanks, everyone. Awesome class! Sherong: Glad class is back in session Noony: Thank you for your time, Georgia and everyone! AKTATTER: AND BIRTHDAY GREETINGS TO WALL Y ANF THANKS FOR THE PATTERN stitchingsharon: Thanks everyone. vidalia: Thanks so much, talk soon AKTATTER: SO TRUE CYNTHIA AKTATTER: EMAI LME ANYTIME AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT THEN AND HAPPY TATTING ALL Marie Smith: Yes, Happy Birthday, Wally! AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 left the chat 28 seconds ago stitchingsharon: Goodnight all Cynthia: thanks Georgia I knew you'd understand clesliea: Good night Winkerbill: Wally's patterns are always such fun to make. ============================================================ Created at Chatzy