The Online Tatting Class
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AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 cleared the room 39 minutes ago
Dantatter: Yes I am not much online at MSN
AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 39 minutes ago
AnneB: Hei Susanne!
Tine Vedder: hi Georgia
RuthPerry: Hi Georgia
Dantatter: But I am fine, thanks
Aanjel51: Hi Georgia
AKTATTER: Hello all
lingram: how is your tatting comingi
Dantatter: Hej Anne, har I meget sne deroppe i Norge ?
AnneB: Hi Georgia! Tidying up again? ;-)
Aanjel51: Georgia, do you have any picot gauges left?
AnneB: Nei, ikke så mye - ennå...
lingram: hi Georgia!!!
Dantatter: Ingenting hernede
AKTATTER: yes I cleared the log out to start fresh today
Tine Vedder: ok
AKTATTER: hi ya Linda hey Ruth!
AKTATTER: Tine you are up late tonight
lingram: hey there :o)
Dantatter: Hi Georgia
AnneB: Skal sende litt om vi får for mye ;-)
AKTATTER: Hi Anne that was a great doily
AKTATTER: good to see you Susanne
AnneB: Thanks!
Dantatter: Ja tak, lol
lingram: did anyone else have a problem opening Carol Amich's "jingle Santa" file?
Dantatter: Georgia I want to ask you something regarding your old website
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/halfclosedrings.html
AKTATTER: that's the lesson
lingram: yes, thank you
AKTATTER: if you wre not on HBT then you had trouble try this link http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/carolamichjinglesanta.pdf
Dantatter: On the old site you had a couple of pages with reviews of Russian tatting books, will you upload them again one day ?
AKTATTER: yes Susanne?
AKTATTER: let me go look
Dantatter: Good - thank you :-)
lingram: thank you Georgia, I'm a member but was signing in under the wrong screenname..silly me
AnneB: The Jingle Santa is lovely! Need to make one for my Auntie who gets a (differen) Santa every year!
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/ru/rubks.html this one?
Tine Vedder: thanks
RuthPerry: BRB
AKTATTER: Carol says there maybe an elf and a reindeer onthe way as well
CLAUDIA from x.x.x.93 joined the chat 33 minutes ago
CLAUDIA: hi all!
lingram: hi Claudia
Aanjel51 from x.x.x.155 left the chat 32 minutes ago
Dantatter: yes thank you - but there was a Kurbatskaya page too, right ?
Tine Vedder: hi
AKTATTER: welcome claudia
AKTATTER: ok
RuthPerry: k
CLAUDIA: i saw that jingle santa... so original!!
Tine Vedder: n
lingram: k
AKTATTER: I don't see the Kurbatsakaya #2 or #3 I will work on those pages for you.
Aanjel51 from x.x.x.155 joined the chat 29 minutes ago
AnneB: Now I need to ask the question "Do I need another tatting book?"
AKTATTER: did you all get ruth's snowflake? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpgloriaflake.pdf
AnneB: No? When did that stop me from buying tatting books...
AKTATTER: there are 3 new ones from Barbara Fey in Germany
lingram: do we ever have enough tatting books or threads? LoL
Tine Vedder from x.x.x.125 joined the chat 28 minutes ago
Dantatter: lol, no never
CLAUDIA: i dont have it
AKTATTER: ok let's get started please sign in
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA
AnneB: I just received a (Christmas)parcel from Handy Hands Tatting ;-)
CLAUDIA: ok
AKTATTER: DEC. 15, 2008 AFTERNOON SESSION
Dantatter: I have a friend that goes to Russia sometimes so I can ask him to look for me
lingram: Linda Barnes, Woodbridge, VA USA lingram21@comcast.net
Aanjel51: Angela Miracle Lupton, MI aanjel51@yahho.com
RuthPerry: Ruth Perry L:ebanon, OH
CLAUDIA: claudia meza, cloelo@gmail.com., argentina
AKTATTER: THAT WAS A GOOD PRESENT ANNE, ME TO ME TYPE :)
AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsø, Norway
Tine Vedder: Tine Veder from the Netherlands
Dantatter: Susanne aka Dantatter in Aarhus, Denmark
AKTATTER: OUR LESSON FOR TODAY IS
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/halfclosedrings.html
AKTATTER: WE ALSO HAVE A PATTERN FROM CAROL AMICH JINGLE SANTA
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/carolamichjinglesanta.pdf
Tine Vedder: yes
AKTATTER: AND A SNOW FLAKE FROM RUTH PERRY
Aanjel51: I have them printed
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpgloriaflake.pdf
Eliz from x.x.x.50 left this message 26 minutes ago:
Elliz Davis (tatknot) in Arkansas
AKTATTER: AND WHEN YOU A TIME PLEASE SO SEE THIS GREAT DOILY THAT ANNEB JUST FINSIHED
AKTATTER: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2008/12/bl-blomster.html
CLAUDIA: beautiful patterns!!! thanks to them!
lingram: oh that is GORGEOUS!!!!
lingram: WOW!!!!
AKTATTER: ELIZ SCROLL DOWN TO THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE AND CLICK JOIN CHAT
AKTATTER: THAT DOILY HS SUCH GREAT USE OF NEGATIVE SPACE ALSO
AnneB: Just love splitrings - and rings floating on them :-) Lovely snowflake!
RuthPerry: very nice
Eliz from x.x.x.50 joined the chat 25 minutes ago
Tine Vedder: beautiful
AKTATTER: WELCOME ELIZ
Eliz: Thanks, Georgia. I'm brain dead today
RuthPerry: Hi Eliz
Eliz: Hi ruth
CLAUDIA: beautiful doily!!
AKTATTER: LOL MINE IS FROST BITTEN TEMP DROPPING LIKE A ROCK, FROM 51f LAST NIGHT TO -2 RIGHT NOW
AKTATTER: AH CLAUDIA REIMINDED ME
Eliz: I've been taking finals. last one tomorrow and its a doozy
RuthPerry: Question about the doily are the flowers tatted separately or as you go?
Dantatter: lol, I know tyhat doily
AnneB: The doly pattern is nice and quick, I'll most probably tat it again :-)
CLAUDIA: what?
AKTATTER: TEH ENTIRE CONRONATION CORD BOOKLET HAS BEEN RESTORED TO THE PUBLIC DOMAIN ARCHIVE
lingram: really? that's cool.
CLAUDIA: ah, yes, thanks for the email georgia!!
AKTATTER: OK LET'S BEGIN WITH THE STUDY OF THE HALF-CLOSED RING
AKTATTER: RECENTLY ON HBT
CLAUDIA: ok
AKTATTER: I READ A POST ASKING ABOUT THE HALF-CLOSED RING MENTIONED IN A PATTERN OF MARK MYERS
CLAUDIA from x.x.x.93 changed name to Claudia 22 minutes ago
AKTATTER: IT IS A TECHNIQUE OR DESIGN ELEMENT THAT WE SELDOM USE TODAY
JaneEb from x.x.x.51 joined the chat 22 minutes ago
AKTATTER: WELCOME JANE!
AnneB: The flowers are tatted as you go. Two rows
RuthPerry: cool
JaneEb: Sorry I'm late - brain cell # 3 went to sleep!!
AKTATTER: JAEN WE HAVE JUST STARTED THE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/halfclosedrings.html
AKTATTER: AS YOU CAN SEE FROM THE 4 SAMPLES
Claudia: ok
AKTATTER: EXCERPTED FROM "TATTING" THE dmc LIBRARY PUB ED BY THERESE DE DILLMONT FRANCE 1923?
AKTATTER: THE REGULAR TATTED RINGS IS OVOID IN SAMPLE FIG. 14
AKTATTER: COMPARE THAT TO FIG 13 AND 15
AKTATTER: YOU TAT THE # OD DS REQUIRED BUT DO NOT CLOSE THE RING FULLY
AKTATTER: YOU WOULD NEED TO MEASURE CAREFULLY SO THAT
AKTATTER: EACH HLAF CLOSED RING IS THE SAME SIZE
AKTATTER: AS THE NEXT ONE
AKTATTER: NOTE THAT THE FIRST OF ONE HCR TOUCHES THE LAST DS OF THE PREVIOUS HCR
AKTATTER: YOU CAN JOIN THE HALF CLOSED RING (hcr) NORMALLR
AKTATTER: NORMALLY SEE FIG 15
AKTATTER: AND THE HCR MAY ALSO HAVE DECORATIVE AS WELL AS CONSTRUCTION PICOTS
Claudia: k
AKTATTER: OK SO FAR?
RuthPerry: k
Aanjel51: k
AKTATTER: THERE ARE 2 EDGINGS GIVEN
Dantatter: yes
Eliz: k
AnneB: guess test tatting is needed...
AKTATTER: FIG 9 PLATE ll
AKTATTER: THE DIAGRAM IS UPSIDE DOWN TO THE PHOTO SORRY
AKTATTER: TURN ONE OF THEM TO FOLLOW ALONG PLEASE
AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN BEGINS WITH A ROW OF JOINED HALF CLOSED RINGS
AKTATTER: R 4 6 - 4 PARTIALLY CLOSE RING
AKTATTER: THE SECOND ROUND
AKTATTER: IS A REPEATING CHAIN PATTERN
AKTATTER: AND FLOATING RINGS ARE THROWN OFF WITH SH2
Claudia: k
AKTATTER: THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A REGULAR TATTED RING IN RED
AnneB: Are these joined to the fabric as you go?
AKTATTER: AND THE HALF CLOSED RINGS IN BLUE MAKES THE CONSTRUCTION STAND OUT
AKTATTER: YOU CAN JOIN AS YOU TAT BUT
AKTATTER: OFTEN THE TATTING LASTS LONGER THAN THE FABRIC
AKTATTER: SO MY PREFERENCE IS TO SEW THE TATTING ON AFTER
AnneB: right
lingram: k
AKTATTER: THE CHAINS IN GREEN ARE CH 3 - 1 - 1 - 3 SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN
AKTATTER: BUT
AKTATTER: YOU COULD PLACE ONE DS OVER THE PICOT BETWEEN THE HCR S
AKTATTER: IN THE MANNER OF A SPLIT CHAIN
AKTATTER: IT WOULD LOOK TIDIER
AKTATTER: TEH SECOND CHAIN IS CH 4
AKTATTER: USE SH2 R 4 - 1 -1 -1 -1 - 4 CLOSE RING COMPLETELY
AKTATTER: A DANITY LOOKING EDGING
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTION ON IT?
Eliz: my main concern is that in handling the unfinished piece to do the other rounds, some of the HCRs might get closed
Aanjel51: not now
AKTATTER: THAT MUST BE A PITFALL TO WATCH OUT FOR
Claudia: dont understand .. in the manner of a split chain georgia
AKTATTER: WRAP ONE DS LIKE YOU WERE WRAPPING A SPLIT RING
Claudia: ah.. ok,,, thanks
AKTATTER: LIKE THIS ONELY JUST ONE DS
AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/SCHMarie.htm
Claudia: ok .. get it
AKTATTER: OK THEN EDGING PG 39 FIG 34
AKTATTER: AGAIN VERY SIMPLE WITH THE HCR
Eliz: it's my favorite
AKTATTER: R 5 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 -5 HALF CLOSE RING
AnneB: I made HCR some before class, and tested: if a ring is closed, you can reopen it.
AKTATTER: THIS TIME LEAVE A DEFINITE MEASURED SPACE
Eliz: thanks, anne
AKTATTER: GOOD TO KNOW ANNE THANKS THAT WAS WORRISOME
AKTATTER: THE SECOND HCR IN BLUE IS JUST r 8 AND HALF CLOSE
AKTATTER: AGAIN THE SECOND ROUND
AKTATTER: IS JUST A RING AND CHAIN REPEAT
AKTATTER: BUT LOOK CLOSELY AT THE PHOTO
AKTATTER: NOTE THAT THE CHAINS JOIN TOTHE TIP OF THE PICOTS ONLY
AKTATTER: THE FULL LENGTH OF THE PICOT IS MADE LIKE A DECORATIVE PICOT NOT A CONSTRUCTION PICOT FOR JOINING
AKTATTER: SO THEN SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN
AKTATTER: CH 2 - 2 - 4
AKTATTER: USE SH2 TO THROW OFF RING
AKTATTER: R 5 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 5 CLR
AKTATTER: CH 4 - 2 - 2 SLJ TO THE FOURTH PICOT OF THE FIRST HALF CLOSED RING
AKTATTER: CH OVER 4 AND USE SH2 TO THROW OFF ANOTHER RING
AKTATTER: THE FLOATING RINGS ARE ALL THE SAME PATTERN
Claudia: k
AKTATTER: CH 4 AND THEN SLJ TO THE SECOND PICOT OF THE NEXT LARGE HALF CLOSED RING
AKTATTER: THE SMALL HALF CLOSD RING IS SKIPPED COMPLETELY
AKTATTER: EASY?
AKTATTER: I HOPE SO ANYWAY
AKTATTER: NOW YOUR HOMEWORK
Claudia: i have to try..
AKTATTER: OVER THE HOLIDAY BREAK
Aanjel51: I knew that was comming
AKTATTER: TRY TO LOCATE ONE PATTERN IN A BOOK
Claudia: holyday homework!!! ups
AKTATTER: OR ONE PATTERN ON LINE TAHT USES THE HALF CLOSED RING
Claudia: ok
AKTATTER: AND MARK MYERS NEW PATTERN DOES NOT COUNT!
AKTATTER: OK NOW LETS LOOK AT RUTH'S SNOFLAKE
Dantatter: lol
Aanjel51: I have a printed copy of Delmont's Tatting book.
lingram: found one.
AnneB: Do we need to tat it or just find it ;-)
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpgloriaflake.pdf
AKTATTER: YOU DID??
Dantatter: lol Anne
lingram: yes, you want it now
AKTATTER: YRPPERS!
AKTATTER: YEPPERS!
lingram: http://www.be-stitched.com/files/cellostar.pdf
Dantatter: Yes lots of them there
AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK
AnneB: Ooo - me like it!
lingram: yes, it looks like it's a nice pattern
RuthPerry: That's pretty
Eliz: with beads, too
Claudia: nice
Dantatter: Now we do not have any homework, lol
lingram: I did mine, but you still have to Susanne...lol
Eliz: at least, lingram has no homework!
Dantatter: roflol Linda
RuthPerry: Shhhh maybe Georgia will forget about the rest of us
AKTATTER: THAT WAS A SUPER EXAMPLE!
lingram: there's more
lingram: thanks!
AKTATTER: OH NO I WON'T!
RuthPerry: RATZ...
Dantatter: lol
lingram: just type in "HCR tatting" in Google
AKTATTER: OH WELL THIS HOMEWORK WAS WAY TOO EASY
Claudia: yes!!!!
AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT TH SNOWFLAKE
Aanjel51: you have until tonight to come up with something more difficult
lingram: just using my resources available...
AKTATTER: RUTH HAS 6 ANGELS DANCING IN AIR
AnneB: Should be some here too I you want a bit harder task: http://www.antiquepatternlibrary.org/completelist.htm
AKTATTER: OH THAT SOUNDS LIKE A CHALLENGE ANGELA!
AKTATTER: GOOD LINK ANNE
lingram: yes, she does....didn't realize that is first...really neat Ruth
Eliz: it's adorable, ruth
RuthPerry: THIS SNOWFLAKE IS PRETTY EASY IF YOU DO SPLIT RINGS
AKTATTER: AND WHAT LOOKS LIKE A REGULAR OL' ROUND CENTER RING
AKTATTER: IS ACTUALLY A SPLIT RING!
AKTATTER: WHICH THROWS OFF THE OTHER 5 RINGS
AKTATTER: AND USES THE 6TH RING TO CLIMB OUT!
RuthPerry: RIGHT BUT MOST OF IT IS THE SECOND HALF OF THE SPLIT RING
RuthPerry: SOME PEOPLE THING SPLIT RINGS HAVE TO BE MIRROR IMAGE, BUT YOU CAN ACTUALLY DO LOTS MORE WITH THEM
AKTATTER: YESTHEY ARE VERY VERSATILE
AKTATTER: NOW THE FIRST ANGEL'S BODY
AnneB: Mmm split- and floating rings :-)
AKTATTER: IS A SPLIT RING AS YOU ARE CLIMBING OUT
RuthPerry: THE CENTER IS A SIMPLE WAY TO BUILD A SNOWFLAKE, STAR OR FLOWER USING A SPLIT RING WITH FLOATING RINGS THROWN OFF
lingram: k
AKTATTER: BUT THE OTHER ANGEL BODY ARE REGULAR RINGS
RuthPerry: THEN CLIMB OUT WITH THE 6TH RING AS A SPLIT RING
RuthPerry: HEN BEGIN THE OUTSIDE RWO WITH A SPLIT RING THAT IS THE ANGEL BODY FOR THE FIRST ANGEL
AKTATTER: K
RuthPerry: YES, AROUND THE OUTSIDE, THE SPLIT RINGS THAT ARE THE WINGS
AKTATTER: I LIKE THE WINGS WITH THE EXTRA PICOTS FOR FEATHERS BEST
RuthPerry: SINCE THE FIRST ANGEL HAS TO HAVE A PLACE FOR THE LAST ONE TO JOIN, THE FIRST WING IS A NORMAL RING, AS IS THE HEAD
RuthPerry: THEN BEGIN THE REPEATING ANGELS WITH THE SECOND WING AND A SHORT CHAIN THAT JOINS TO A SMALL STAR RING THEN ANOTHER SHORT CHAIN
RuthPerry: THEN A SPLIT RING FOR AN ANGEL WING
AKTATTER: K
RuthPerry: NOW WITH THE SHUTTLE CLOSEST TO THE CENTER OF THE SNOWFLAKE TAT A NORMAL RING FOR THE BODY, THEN WITH THE OTHER SHUTTLE A NORMAL RING FOR THE HEAD
RuthPerry: THE PATTERN REPEATS, AND SHOULD BE EASY TO REMEMBER
Dantatter: k
Aanjel51: k
RuthPerry: YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO TAT THESE IN A FAIRLY SHORT TIME WITHOUT THE INSTRUCTIONS IN HAND
AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE TURNING THE WORK BACK ANF FORTH YOU MIGHT WANT TO WORK PART OF IT IN RODs
RuthPerry: GOOD TRAVELING PATTERN
Eliz: looks like it would make up pretty quickly
AKTATTER: THAT IS A VERY CUTE PATTERN RUTH
AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING IT WITH US
Eliz: will make a lovely ornament and I still need to do a few
Claudia: thanks ruth
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIOSN FOR RUTH?
RuthPerry: ONE THING, I DID FIND THAT IT LOOKS BETTER WHEN I DO THE DROP THE SHUTTLE THROUGH THE CENTER OF THE RINGS BEFORE CLOSING
Eliz: thank you, ruth
AKTATTER: GOOD TIP THANKS
Aanjel51: Thank You Ruth
RuthPerry: I DON'T ALWAYS DO THAT, BUT HERE IT IS A BETTER LOOK
AKTATTER: OK THEN LET'S TAKE A PEEK AT JINGLE SANTA
AnneB: Nice pattern Ruth! Makes idas appear.
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/carolamichjinglesanta.pdf
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AnneB: ideas
Claudia: what do you mean ruth?
lingram: yes, thank you Ruth!
Dantatter: thank you very much
AKTATTER: CLAUDIA MAKE ONE RING REGULAR
AKTATTER: MAKE A SECOND RING BUT DROP THE SHUTTLRE THRU THERING BEFORE YOU CLOSE IT
AKTATTER: THEN CLOSE
AKTATTER: THE THREAD IS THEN COMING OUT ON THE OTHER SIDE
AKTATTER: SEE THE DIFFERENCE FOR YOUR SELF
AKTATTER: OK CAROL AMICH POSTED THIS SANTA ON HBT
RuthPerry: CLAUDIA, SOME PEOPL;E TEACH THAT YOU SHOULD PUT THE SHUTTLE THROUGH THE MIDDLE OF THE RING BEFORE CLOSING THE RING SO THE FIRST STITCH DOESN'T FLIP AND MAKE THE RING DIFFICULT TO REOPEN
Claudia: ah. ill try this difference .. thanks
AKTATTER: IF YOU ARE NOT A MEMBER WHY NOT SIGN UP FOR THE NEW YEAR?
Eliz: very unusual
RuthPerry: Thanks all, gotta go now
Claudia: thanks ruth... new tips for me!!
Aanjel51: bye Ruth
lingram: take care and Happy HOlidays
AKTATTER: THE HEAD OF SANTA COULD BE A CATHERINE WHEEL INSTEAD
AKTATTER: BYE RUTH THANKS
Claudia: thanks ruth, bye
AKTATTER: OTHERWISE THE HEAD IS A ROUND CENTER RING
AKTATTER: LIMB OUT WITH MOCK PICOT
Dantatter: bye Ruth
AKTATTER: TAT A JOIN TO NEXT FREE PICOT IWTH ONLY TAT 1
AKTATTER: SO 1 - 1 AROUND UNTIL FACE IS LARGE ENOUGH
AKTATTER: HANDS ARE JUST TWO RINGS
AKTATTER: ARMS AND LEGS ARE EACH SEPARATE
AKTATTER: TEH HAT IS BLOCK TATTED BUT WRAPPED INSTEAD OF TATTED
AKTATTER: THEN BOOKS AND BEARD AND YOU ARE DONE!
AKTATTER: SO FEW PIECES BUT SO CLEVERLY DONE
AKTATTER: I THINK IT IS A VERY CUTE ORNAMENT
AKTATTER: ANY QUESITONS?
Dantatter: yes in deed it is
Claudia: its original
AKTATTER: CAROL IS PROMISING AN ELF AND A REINDEER ARE NEXT TOO :)
lingram: might be cute to just use the head and back with felt for a Christmas pin/brooch?
Eliz: what kind of glue?
AKTATTER: WHY NOT? AND ADD A COUPLE OF BEADS FOR EYES?
Claudia: many ideas to try
AKTATTER: FABRIC GLUE MIGHT BE BEST HERE
AKTATTER: ANY OTHER QUESTIONS OR ANNOUNCEMENTS?
AKTATTER: THIS CLASS REPEATS TONIGHT AT 8:30PM ET (NEW YORK TIME)
Claudia: not now
AKTATTER: OK THEN MANY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FRO JOIN ING US THIS YEAR
Dantatter: Thanks and have a great Christmas, Georgia
lingram: thank you Georgia! Happy Holidays to Everyone!!!!
Claudia: thanks you
AKTATTER: I WISH YOU ALL HAPPY AND PEACEFUL HOLIDAY
Eliz: thank you
lingram: and Christmas HUGS too!!!!
Dantatter: God jul, Anne
AKTATTER: SEE YOU NEXT YEAR AROUND TEH 15TH
Claudia: have a nice christmas for all andh happy new year!!!!
AnneB: sorry - missed the Santa part as my Mother called, but I guess I'll figure it out...
AKTATTER: MERRY CHRISTMAS! AND hAPPY NEW YEAR!
AKTATTER: :)
Dantatter: Happy Christmas everyone
lingram: ok thank you...take care everyone and have a safe Christmas/Quanza/Hannuka
lingram: oh yes and Jule
Claudia: on january?
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Aanjel51: Merry Christmas, all
Dantatter: lol Linda
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AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 cleared the room 38 minutes ago
Cynthia: Ok now to class?
AKTATTER: yes that command worked for me clear room
Sherong: did you clear the room again?
Aanjel51: Ok was that a test??
Mimi: Waaa I have to stop getting up from the computer, it blanked again !! LOL
Sherong: Please warn in advance from now on
AKTATTER: yes
AKTATTER: try cynthia
AnitaR: I blinked and it was gone :))
Cynthia: less scary that way...
AKTATTER: ok this is a test by cynthia
AKTATTER: no go?
Sherong: I got a box and it blinked
Cynthia: no it says I must be an administrator
AKTATTER: ok thne
Aanjel51: Cynthia does not have the power you do Georgia
AKTATTER: no pinkpig collectors here? ok
Cynthia: just a tatter not a power tatter....lol :)
AKTATTER: few people in the world have my powers angela lol
Aanjel51: Just my sister in Nebraska
Sherong: I remember when ron was pink pig
AKTATTER: everyone got the lesson?
Cynthia: yes
Aanjel51: I have them printed
Sherong: yes
AKTATTER: and the special addon Ruth's snowflake and Carol Jingle Santa?
tatcat14: everything but the Santa
Aanjel51: yes, I have them all
AnitaR: Yes ;)
AKTATTER: ok then 3 more minutes chat
Sherong: missed the add on's
Cynthia: so did I
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpgloriaflake.pdf
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/carolamichjinglesanta.pdf
AKTATTER: oh here is an historical footnote
AKTATTER: today in the HBT digest Karen was explaining to Anne in Wales what a 5th wheel RV was
AKTATTER: Karen mentioned that she was intrigued by the covered wagon pioneers
Sherong: I saw that
AKTATTER: and wondered if anyone on them tatted
RuthPerry from x.x.x.166 joined the chat 33 minutes ago
AKTATTER: it reminded me that the Spears family
AKTATTER: my father's family
AKTATTER: came west in a funny looking covered wagon
AKTATTER: story goes it was pulled by two mules
AKTATTER: but only one is showing in the photo
AKTATTER: they lost a mule and stuck in the mud at what became Vevay Park IL
AKTATTER: the old lady standing on the wagon is Georgianna Spears my greatgrandmother
Cynthia: don't know my great grandmother came across in a wagon but never mentioned tatting in her diary all 98 years of it!
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/menrichdepotspearsphoto.jpg
AnitaR: That is awsome knowing your story !!
AKTATTER: I've d looked and looked at her photo and somehow it does not stricke me that she was a tatter.
Cynthia: yes it is awesome....and the picture to go with it
AKTATTER: oh I got a million genealogial stories about the family
Mimi: Wow, not Conestoga type at all.
AKTATTER: that is Rich and I holding the photo which hangs at the local historical society depot
Mimi: Looks more substantial, hopefully more comfortable/weathertight
AnitaR: yep... I have lots of pics but no one to tell stories anymore
AKTATTER: and how did all those kids fit in there?
AKTATTER: all the kids are my grandfather and his siblings
AKTATTER: amazes me
AKTATTER: now let's get started
Sherong: Maybe there was a touch of gipsy in your family
AnitaR: so glad we don't have to travel like that
AKTATTER: please sign in
Cynthia: they walked and slept on the ground mostly...is my guess...from gramma D's diary
AKTATTER: ME TOO THAT LOOKS GRUESOME
AnitaR: AnitaR baruss402@yahoo.com Oklahoma
RuthPerry: Ruth Perry L:ebanon, OH
Aanjel51: Angela Miracle, aanjel51@yahoo.com, Lupton, Michigan (COLD, 10 degrees and falling)
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, brasthatfit@yahoo.com, Stillwater OK
Sherong: sheron goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com columbia, sc
AKTATTER: 6 AND FREEZING RAIN
AKTATTER: I ACTUALLY GOT OUT A COAT AND GLOVES TODAY
Cynthia: I can't win... 16 and cloudy
Mimi: Mimi Dillman, Everett WA USA ntrop@ix.netcom.com - 15F and some wind, but dry/icy
Aanjel51: Not freezing, oh no!!!!!
AKTATTER: DEC. 15, 2008 EVENING SESSION
Katie V/occhitat from x.x.x.135 joined the chat 28 minutes ago
AKTATTER: ICED UP THE BACK DOOR CAN'T OPEN IT NOW THAT IS THE DIRECTION THE WIND IS COMING FROM
AKTATTER: WELCOME KATIE PLEASE SIGN IN
Katie V/occhitat: Katie Verna, Creedmoor NC katie@r-v-r.com Hi, ya all!!!!
tatcat14: test
Aanjel51: This is my first winter here in northern MI so am not sure what to expect
tatcat14: Eva Shock Barclay Maryland
AKTATTER: oUR LESSON http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/halfclosedrings.html
Katie V/occhitat: nearly 60 deg here in NC tonight!
tatcat14: shoo, that awas hard to sign in
AKTATTER: EVA WELCOME
tatcat14: computer locked up
AKTATTER: IT WILL BE EASIER NEXT TIME JUST DON'T LOG OUT
RuthPerry: 21 here 2-4 inches of snow expected tonight
AKTATTER: WEIRD KATIE WE HARD 51 DEGRESS LAST NIGHT BUT IT HAS DROPPED ALL DAY
Katie V/occhitat: Yikes, Ruth!
AnitaR: guess winter is here huh
tatcat14: LOL I was too quite for to long and the program prompted me...did something wrong
RuthPerry: It was almost 60 here last night at midnight
AKTATTER: JUST HIT K ONCE IN AWHLIE OR THE ENTER BUTTON
Katie V/occhitat: Jeez, Ruth, what a temp swing.
Cynthia: click on the OK at the right a couple times when it asks if you want to stay and it will let you stay without
tatcat14: gotcha
AKTATTER: I HOPE WE DON'T GET MUCH SNOW CAUSE THE MICE ATE MY ALASKAN SNOW BOOTS BACK IN 2003
Cynthia: the continual hassle
AKTATTER: OK IN THE HBT DIGEST THIS WEEK MARK MYERS
Cynthia: sorry 'bout that AK....I hate mice
Aanjel51: my daughter lives in AK maybe she can send you a new pair
RuthPerry: Maybe you need to get some IL snow boots now
AKTATTER: SHARED A PATTERN WHICH USED HALF-CLOSED RINGS
AKTATTER: ME TOO cYN
tatcat14: We have a cat about to deliver. Would you like me to send you the younguns.
AKTATTER: ANGELA THAT WOULD BE SWEET BUT i AM COUNTING ON NO SNOW
tatcat14: Dearest is not happy about being a kitty maternity ward
AKTATTER: EGADS!
Aanjel51: I know that feeling
AKTATTER: LET'S HOPE SHE WAITS UNTIL AFTER CLASS
AKTATTER: SO SOMEONE IN THE HBT ASKED WHAT HALF CLOSEDRINGS WERE
tatcat14: And not to use my bed
AKTATTER: IT IS NOT A TECHNIQUE OFTEN USED TO DAY
RuthPerry: k
AKTATTER: RIGHT ON EVA
AKTATTER: IF YOU WILL LOOK PLEASE
Cynthia: I thought it was my messed up rings...lol
AKTATTER: AT THE PHOTOS EXCERPTED FROM "TATTING"
AKTATTER: THERESE DE DILLMONT dmc LIBRARY
AKTATTER: LOL
AKTATTER: FIG 14 SHOWS THE NORMAL TATTED OVOID RING
AKTATTER: COMPARE THAT TO FIGS 13 AND 15
AKTATTER: THOSE ARE RINGS OF 10 DS BUTONLY PARTIALLY CLOSED
AKTATTER: AND UNJOINED
AKTATTER: THE OTHER IS ALSO HALF CLOSED RINGS (HCR)
AKTATTER: BUT WITH JOINS
AKTATTER: THE REGULAR RINGS HAVE SPACE BETWEEN THEM
AKTATTER: THE HCRS TOUCH SHOULD TO SHOULDER
AKTATTER: TEH HCR CAN ALSO HAVE DECORATIVE AS WELL AS CONCTRUCTION PICOTS
Katie V/occhitat: I have the hardest time keeping the openings the same size.
Aanjel51: I was going to make some this afternoon
AKTATTER: SEE FIG. 17
Cynthia: when intentionally done they can be a nice touch and different...
Aanjel51: but ran out of time
AKTATTER: I THINK THAT MUST BE THE HARDEST PART KATIE
AKTATTER: ANNB REPORTED THAT ONCE CLOSED THO
AKTATTER: THEY DO NOT REOPEN WHICH IS GOOD NEWS
AKTATTER: THERE ARE TWO EDGINGS GIVEN
tatcat14: what bout using a large picot gauge to measure the open part?
AKTATTER: THE DIAGRAM AND TEH PHOTO ARE UPSIDE DOWN TO EACH OTHER SORRY
AKTATTER: PLEASE TURN ONE TO FOLLOW ALONG
Katie V/occhitat: That's an idea, Tatcat
AKTATTER: EVA THAT IS A GOOD IDEA
Sherong: Or the cardboard trick you shared for migonet
AKTATTER: EVEN BETTER SHERON THE CARDBOARD WITH A SLIT IN IT
AKTATTER: OK FIG 9 PLATEll PG 12
Katie V/occhitat: that sounds great.
AKTATTER: THIS EDGING BEGINS WITH A ROW OF HCR
AKTATTER: JOINED AT THE SHOULDERS
Cynthia: I'd like info on that....cardboard trick for migonet
AKTATTER: r 4 6 - 4 CLR
AKTATTER: OH I USUALLY USE A FLOSS WINDER CARDBOARD BUT ANYTHING WILL DO
RuthPerry: k
AKTATTER: DECIDE ON THE LENGTH OF BARE SPACE
AKTATTER: THAT YOU WANT TO HAVE BETWEEN THE CLOSED RINGS
Aanjel51: k
AKTATTER: MAKE A SLIT IN THE CARDBARD MEASURING THAT DISTANCE TO THE EDGE OF TEH CARDBAORD
AKTATTER: PUT THE CLOSED RING IN THE SLIT ON ONE SIDE
AKTATTER: STRETCH OUT THE SHUTTLE THREAD TO THE EDGE OF THE CARDBOARD
Sherong: Can also use to measure space to leave ring open
AKTATTER: THAT BECOMES THE PINCHING POINT FOR THE NEXT RING
AKTATTER: T REALLY HELPS TO KEEP THE BARE THREAD SPACES REGULAR
AKTATTER: GOT IT?
Cynthia: got it...easier than the way I've been doing them
tatcat14: yes
Katie V/occhitat: Yep AK
Sherong: or point to close ring to
AKTATTER: SO EDGING ON FIG 9 BEGINS WITH THE HCR ROW
AKTATTER: THE SECOND ROW
AKTATTER: IS JUST A RING AND CHAIN REPEAT
AKTATTER: NOTE THE RED RINGS
AKTATTER: THOSE ARE REGULAR TATTED OVOID RINGS
RuthPerry: k
AKTATTER: OR FLOATING RINGS THROW OFF WITH SH2
Mimi: ah, I see it now
AKTATTER: IT MAKES THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN
AKTATTER: REGULAR RINGS AND HCR REALLY VISIBLE
AKTATTER: NOTE THAT THE GREEN CHAIN
AKTATTER: JOINS TO THE PICOT BETWEEN THE HCRs
AKTATTER: YOU COULD ALSO MAKE THAT A LARK'S HEAD PICOT JOIN
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/lhpj/lhpj.html
Cynthia: that makes sense to give it a bit more stability?
AKTATTER: IOW JUST WRAP A DS OVER THE PICOT LIKE MAKING A SPLIT CHAIN JUST 1 DS
RuthPerry: k
AKTATTER: IT LOOKS BETTER THAN A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN I THINK
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THAT EDGING?
AKTATTER: OK PLAGE 39 FIG 34
AKTATTER: A SIMILAR EDGING
AKTATTER: BUT HERE THE FOUNDATION ROW IS HCRs OF TWO DIFFERENT SIZES
AKTATTER: AND THEY DO NOT JOIN TO EACH OTHER
AKTATTER: THE LARGE HCR r 5 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 5
AKTATTER: THE SMALL HCR R 8
AKTATTER: THE SECOND ROUND
AKTATTER: BEGINS WITH THE CHAIN
AKTATTER: PLEASE EXAMINE THE PHOTO FOR FIG 34
tatcat14: k
AKTATTER: NOTICE HOW THE CHAIN JOINS TO THE SECOND PICOT OF THE LARGE HCR
AKTATTER: (AND LATER TO THE 4TH PICOT)
AKTATTER: THE PICOT IS A NORMAL LENGTH DECORATIVE PICOT
AKTATTER: SO THE JOIN SLJ OR LHPJ ATTACHES JUST TO THE VERY TIP OF THEPICOT
AKTATTER: SO CH 2 - 2 - 4
AKTATTER: USE SH2 TO THROW OFF REGULAR RING
AKTATTER: R 5 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 2 - 5 CLR
AKTATTER: CH 4 AND ATTACH AGAIN TO THE LARGE HCR AT 4TH PICOT
AKTATTER: TEH SECOND CHAIN SKIPS OVER THE SMALL HCR COMPLETELY
AKTATTER: CH 4 THROW OFF RING WITH SH2 CHAIN 4 AND REPEAT
AKTATTER: AL THE REGULAR RINGS ARE THE SAME PATTERN
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS??
AKTATTER: NO? OK THEN HOMEWORK
Katie V/occhitat: no problem AK
tatcat14: Yes the hemming on the fabric
Cynthia: no it makes sense to me.
AKTATTER: YOUR MISSION DURING THE HOLIDAY BREAK
AKTATTER: IS TO LOCATE ONE PATTERN THAT USES THE HALF CLOSED RING
AKTATTER: IN A BOOK OR ONLINE
tatcat14: is it tatting or is it a sewn on blanket stitch
AKTATTER: THE FOLLOWING HAVE ALREADY BEEN DISCOVERED TODAY
Cynthia: oooooooooohhhh that is sneaky,,,,
AKTATTER: i CAN'T TELL FROM THE PHOTO EVA
AKTATTER: LOL
AKTATTER: http://www.be-stitched.com/files/cellostar.pdf
AKTATTER: AND mARK MYERS' PATTERN WHICH STARTED THIS
AKTATTER: BUT I DON'T HAVE THE LINK HANDY
Katie V/occhitat: That's cute with the beads, the cello tatted star
AKTATTER: NANCY'S PATTERN ABOVE SHOWS THE HCR WELL
AKTATTER: SPEAKINGO F EYECANDY
Katie V/occhitat: Doesn't Mark have a whole book of HCR patterna
Cynthia: it looks to me like maybe another row of chains and split chain type thing with the rings
AKTATTER: ANNE B JUST FINISHED THIS DOILY
AKTATTER: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2008/12/bl-blomster.html
AKTATTER: DONE IN TWO ROUNDS
AKTATTER: IS THAT YOUR HOMEWORK SUBMISSION KATIE?
AKTATTER: :)
AKTATTER: HE DOES HAVE A BOOK OD ONE SHUTTLE PATTERNS
Katie V/occhitat: ISn't it awesome!! But no HCR, right?
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/myershow2.html
Cynthia: that doily is awesome....
AKTATTER: THAT MIGHT BE IT
Katie V/occhitat: YeaH, yeah, I'm going to do Anne's pattern!
AKTATTER: iWOULD HAVE TO GRAB THE BOOK AND FLIP THRU TO TELL
AKTATTER: GREAT KATIE
AKTATTER: OK RUTH YOU STILL HERE?
Katie V/occhitat: ;)
Cynthia: Anne's pattern looks like maybe a double bobbin shuttle to me....
AKTATTER: THIS IS RUTH'S PATTERN THE GLORIA SNOWFLAKE
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpgloriaflake.pdf
Sherong: No just different color rings and chains I think
AKTATTER: LET'S LOOK AT THIS CENTER RING FIRST
AKTATTER: AT FIRST IT LOOKS LIKE A NORMAL ROUND CENTER RING
AKTATTER: BUT HMM NOPE IT IS A BIT DIFFERENT
AKTATTER: RUTH BEGINS THE CENTER AS A SPLIT RING
AKTATTER: AND YOU TAT ONLY 4 DS
AKTATTER: SWITCHING TO SH2
AKTATTER: YOU WRAP 4 DS AND USE THAT SHUTTLE TO THROW OFF THE OUTER RINGS
AKTATTER: THOSE RINGS ARE REGULAR RINGS R 8 - 4 - 8 CLR
AKTATTER: ALL EXCEPT FOR THE LAST ONE
AKTATTER: THAT ONE BECOMES A SPLIT RING ALSO
AKTATTER: SO YOU CAN CLIMB OUT INTO THE
AKTATTER: BODY OF THE ANGEL
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Sherong: Might a SCMR do the center easier than a split ring?
RuthPerry: you're doing fine Georgia, I'll just listen
Katie V/occhitat: One of those tricky Ruth techniques!
AKTATTER: OK RUTH
AKTATTER: YEP THAT RUTH IS FULL OF DEVILOUSLY TRICKY TATTING TECHNIQUES
RuthPerry: A SCMR, a reverse ring, or a split ring, all end up with the same thing. do whichever is easier for you
AKTATTER: EVERYONE WITH US SO FAR?
Katie V/occhitat: yep
tatcat14: k
AKTATTER: OK THENTHE FIRST ANGEL BODY IS ALSO A SPLIT RING
RuthPerry: just so the end is like the picture
Cynthia: yes I was wondering if you could do it the same as the Star of David...Ruth...
AKTATTER: USE SH1 TO TAT THE FIRST WING AND THE HEAD
AKTATTER: BUT HE SECOND WING IS ALSO SPLIT RING TO CLIMB TO THE SECTION OF CHAINS
AKTATTER: CHAIN OVER TO THE LITTLE STAR
AKTATTER: THEN CHAIN OVER TO START THE SECOND ANGEL
AKTATTER: THE FIRS WING IS SPLIT RING
AKTATTER: SH1 TATS THE HEAD
AKTATTER: SH2 TATS THE BOD JOININ G TOT HE CENTER
AKTATTER: ADN THE LAST WING IS SPLIT RING AGAIN
AKTATTER: AND CONTINUE AGAIN UNTIL YOU HAVE 6 ANGELS DANCING AMON G THE STARS
AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS?
Katie V/occhitat: fun design!
AKTATTER: YES IT IS AND NOTE THAT ONE VERSION
Cynthia: awesome....thanks AK and Ruth!! much fun
RuthPerry: Easy to remember, and quick to work up
AKTATTER: HAS PICOTS ON THE LOWER EDGE OF THE WINGS
AKTATTER: LOOKS LIKE FEATHERS TO ME
AKTATTER: MANY THANKS RUTH FOR SHARING YOUR WORK WITH US TONIGHT AND THROUGH THE ENTIRE YEAR
RuthPerry