The Online Tatting Class
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MJB: Hello Georgia
AKTATTER from x.x.x.6 cleared the room 65 minutes ago
AKTATTER: don't worry if your screen went blank
Dantatter: lol
JaneEb: Whoooops, what's going on?
Winkerbill: I sort of wondered....
Aanjel51: it did
Cynthia: thanks Jane...I thought mentioning  it did it
MJB: Mine did
AKTATTER: it happens every time I clear out the old discussion log
JaneEb: Not only the screen - my brain too!!!
Cynthia: oh now I know what happened as well....whew...............
Aanjel51: I hope not that tatting side, Jane!!
AnneB: Thanks for clearing our thoughts Georgia ;-)
Tine Vedder: h
JaneEb: Haven't seen that for a few weeks!!!
Tine Vedder: oo
Dantatter: Georgia probably didn't like the chat we had before she entered, roflol ;-D
AKTATTER: ah ha you must have been talking aboutme!
AKTATTER: I know it was all wonderful things
Dantatter: lol
JaneEb: Corse it was
Winkerbill: oh yes, for sure....
MJB: k
JaneEb: Can I be teacher's pet, now?
AnneB: sure
Cynthia: yes if we all can
Tine Vedder: y
Aanjel51: do you have an apple for the teacher??
Cynthia: or a snowflake???
Winkerbill: I have tea!
JaneEb: No, will a chocolate do?
Winkerbill: :-)
Tine Vedder: haha
AKTATTER: well if I had know you were all so eager I would have come earlier
Winkerbill: I'll share my tea if you share your chocolates!
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/gs3flakenpris2pg8colorcoronationcord.html
Dantatter: lol
AnneB: Hm. Only water here...
AKTATTER: did everyone get all the pages of the lesson printed?
MJB: Georgia., I love the snowflakes for today
Aanjel51: I was going to bake some cookies
Dantatter: I have just finished my coffee and a banana
Cynthia: yes
Aanjel51: I did
Winkerbill: mine are on screen.  DH will have to help me print....if the printer works....
AKTATTER: ah shucks MaryJane I am pleased to hear it
AKTATTER: even more pleased to know that you are still talking to me
AKTATTER: Susanne thanks for that info on the Danish tatter
MJB: I will always talk to you.,  that couldn't be helped.,
Dantatter: Georgia did my info help ???
AKTATTER: Tine is marco not here? Her meeting must have gone late again
Dantatter: Oh, lol
AKTATTER: yes thanks so much Susanne
AKTATTER: I read a cooking magazine for lunch, inspired me
AKTATTER: i may actually bake cookies this year
Dantatter: That is ok, but I don't think you'll get in touch with her via that page
Aanjel51: me too
AKTATTER: you can smash up life savers in different colors
Winkerbill: Other than turning the thermostat a bit higher, how do you keep your hands warm enough to tat in cold weather?  My hands get stiff and cold, and I can't keep the heat on 75 degrees just so I can tat more easily.
AKTATTER: put them in greased cookie cutters on a sheet and melt them into starts
AKTATTER: too cool
F.J.Mooi-Gosens from x.x.x.110 joined the chat 59 minutes ago
Cynthia: I keep a rice bag in my lap
Aanjel51: great idea
Winkerbill: Rice bag?
AKTATTER: altho i don't have that problem i have seen tatters wear these tight gloves
Tine Vedder: no Georgia Marco is sporting
AKTATTER: and a heater cat is always good too
Cynthia: wink e-me later and I'll explain how to make one
AnneB: Try wristwarmers of wool. Keeps cold hands warm!
AKTATTER: ah well that is very healthy for Marcothen
AKTATTER: ok let's get started please sign in
Cynthia: the short answer is a sock with rice in it...heat in microwave for 2 min and it holds the heat for falf hour
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM
Winkerbill: hmmm....allergic to cats......wool, too....  :-)
Winkerbill: sock, eh?  I'll try that....
AKTATTER: RICE BAGS ARE GOOD FOR SORE MUSCLES AND HEAD ACHES TOO
JaneEb: JaneEb somewhere cold in the UK!!!
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, brasthatfit@yahoo.com, stillwater OK USS
Tine Vedder: Tine Veddder fromThe Netherlands
AKTATTER: COLD FEET IN THE BED TOO
Aanjel51: Angela Miracle, Lupton, MI USA  aanjel51@yahoo.com
MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana
AKTATTER: DEC. 8, 2008
Winkerbill: Stephanie W.  iin western North Carolina USA
AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway, not so cold at the moment
Dantatter: Susanne aka Dantatter in Aarhus, Denmark
AKTATTER: AFTERNOON SESSION THE LESSON IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/gs3flakenpris2pg8colorcoronationcord.html
Tine Vedder: all have greetings from MArco
Dantatter: Thanks Tine
AKTATTER: THESE THREE SNOWFLAKES WERE FIRST PUBLISHED IN PIECEWORK MAGAZINE NOV 1993
JaneEb: ANNE BRUVOLD of THE dragon?  Woweeeee
AKTATTER: AND LATER IN BOOK 1 OF THE RIBBONWINNERS SERIES, TATTING ALASKAN STYLE
Aanjel51: they are beautiful
AnneB: thanks!
AKTATTER: AND THEY ARE USED HERE TODAY WITH THE PERMISSION OF THE DESIGNER, ME :)
MJB: love them
Tine Vedder: verry nice
AKTATTER: THANK YOU
Winkerbill: So pretty!
Cynthia: awesome
AKTATTER: THOSE DRAGONS WERE A KNOCL OUT HUH JANE
AKTATTER: OK OUR STUDY TODAY IS ON REWRITING TATTING PATTERNS
AnneB: nice snowflakes better than those outside!
JaneEb: Absolutely. I went green with envy that I'd not designed them.  WELL DONE ANNE
AKTATTER: TO IMPROVE THE LOOK AND THE EFFICIENCY OF THE TATTING
Dantatter: LOL Georgia
AnneB: thanks Jane
AKTATTER: :)
AKTATTER: MANY TATTERS IN TEH CLASS
AKTATTER: HAVE BRAVELY SENT IN THEIR WORK TO ME
AKTATTER: FOR A CRITIQUE
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AKTATTER: AND IHAVE ALWAYS BEEN BRUTALLY HONEST
Tine Vedder: yes
AKTATTER: WELCOME DORCAS
MJB: Hello DorcasAnn
AKTATTER: AND I HAVE TRIED TO POINT THEM IN WAYS TO IMPROVE THEIR WORK
DorcasAnn: sorry I'm late
AKTATTER: HUH ANGELA??
AKTATTER: ANGLE WAS VERY BRAVE RECENTLY
AKTATTER: ALWAYS WELCOME DORCAS
AKTATTER: AND TODAY THE CLASS HAS THE PRIVILEGE
AKTATTER: OR TASK
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: OF EXAMINING MY OLDER WORK AND SUGGESTING
Aanjel51: Yes you were burtal, but I apprecited it
Cynthia: but we know you are doing it for our own improvemnet not to be mean AK
AKTATTER: WHERE IT COULD BEIMPROVED
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AKTATTER: THANKS ANGELA I HAV SO GLAD TO HEAR THAT
AKTATTER: :)
soultatter from x.x.x.163 changed name to claudia 52 minutes ago
AKTATTER: OK LET'S START WITH THE EASIEST ONE THE DENALI SNOWFLAKE
AKTATTER: ALL CLOVERLEAFS
Kate from x.x.x.12 joined the chat 52 minutes ago
claudia: hi all
AKTATTER: OR ARE THEY TREFOILS? WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE?
Kate: Hi all
AKTATTER: WELCOME KATE
AKTATTER: CLAUDIA GOOD TO SEE YOU
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: WE ARE CRITIQUING THE DENALI SNOWFLAKE
claudia: thanks georgia
AKTATTER: THE TREFOIL IS USUALLY THREE RINGS SAME SIZE
claudia: ok. i look for it now
AKTATTER: THE CLOVERLEAF USUALLY HAS A LARGER CENTER RING
Winkerbill: ok, I know the difference but can't remember which is which....
Tine Vedder: ok
AnneB: ok
AKTATTER: LETS BEGIN WITH THE FIRST INNER CLOVERLEAF
AKTATTER: WHAT COULD I HAVE DONE BETTER?
Aanjel51: They look like trefoils to me.
AKTATTER: YOU MIGHT WANT TO MARK THE SUGGESTIONS ON THE PAGE FOR USE LATER
AKTATTER: THE CENTER RING IS DEFINTELY LARGER ANGELA
AKTATTER: WHAT ELSE?
AKTATTER: IF I WERE TATTING IT TODAY
Cynthia: put picots in instead of the ring so you could join them
AKTATTER: I WOULD NOT PUT ONE LARGE PICOT ON THE FIRST CENTER RING OF THE FIRST CLOVERLEAF
Winkerbill: Why not?
AKTATTER: YES I WOULD TODAY USE SIDE PICOTS TO JOIN EACH OF THE RINGS TO THE PREVIOUS ONE
claudia: why?
Cynthia: 3 8-4-8-3
AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK CLOSELY AT ONLY THE LARGE RINGS IN THE CENTER
Dantatter: it looks better that way
AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE THAT THEY DO NOT LAY FLAT
AKTATTER: THEY OVERLAP
Winkerbill: ohhhhh......
AKTATTER: SIDE PICOTS WOULD MAKE EVERYTHING LAY FLAT
Winkerbill: that makes sense
Tine Vedder: ok
Cynthia: oh they scrunch on each other...
claudia: ah... right
Tine Vedder: uh one centerring with 6 picot for the centerrings
AKTATTER: OK ANYONE ELSE SEE SOMETHING TOIMPROVE?
Dantatter: the drawing, lol
AKTATTER: WHAT ABOUT THE SIDE RINGS OF THE INNER CLOVERLEAF?
Cynthia: the chains to dbs?
Winkerbill: have to confess, I thought this one was perfect to start with....
claudia: sorry. side picotS?
Tine Vedder: thei are not vast
AKTATTER: I WAS SUGGESTING CLAUDIA TO ADD SIDE PICOTS ON THE LARGE RING TO JOIN TO THE EACH SET
Cynthia: it looks fun to do but changes can be fun as well
claudia: ok georgia
AKTATTER: WE COULD PUT A PICOT MIDWAY ON THE SIDE RINGS AND JOIN THEM ALSO
AKTATTER: THERE IS ONE PITFALL TO AVOID THO
AKTATTER: JOINING ALL THE SIDE RINGS COULD MAKE IT POUCH UP
Tine Vedder: yes
AKTATTER: OK CYNTHIA MENTIONED THE CHAINS
AKTATTER: THEY ARE LONG CHAINS
AKTATTER: AND I THINK THAT THEY COULD BE IMPROVED BY THE DBS
JaneEb: You'd probably need to tinker with the stitch count?
Cynthia: make sure picots are long enougn to lay flat
AKTATTER: REMEMBER RUTH TAUGHT US ABOUT THAT?
AKTATTER: RIGHT TO BOTH
Dantatter: one or 2 picots on the chains would make them curve a bit
Tine Vedder: k
Cynthia: Since I mastered the bds I do that if it is longer than 5 ds
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthplongringchains.pdf
claudia: i read about that, to use in celtic tatting for example?
AKTATTER: YES AND WE COULD ENHANCE THE CURVE OF THE CHAINS
AKTATTER: BY COMPRESSING THEM AL BACK TO THE STARTING POINT
AKTATTER: YES CLAUDIA AND IN ANY PIECE WITH VERY LONG CHAINS
claudia: yes, that is
AKTATTER: ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS?
Tine Vedder: no
AKTATTER: ONE LAST THING I MIGHT HAVE DONE
Cynthia: divide the first clover so you could do a split ring last and have a hanging loop
Dantatter: I would add some picots on the outer clovers
JaneEb: added beads?
Winkerbill: If it's any help to anyone, I've discovered that in size 30 Cebelia 8 BDS = 10 DS (for me, at least)
AKTATTER: IS TO MAKE ONE OF THE PUT PICOTS INTO A HANGER BY MAKING IT 2-3 INCHES 2-4CM
AKTATTER: THAT IS A GOOD TIP
Dantatter: oh yes, lol
AKTATTER: AH BEADS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME
JaneEb: You could use 2 colours and a lock chain for the chains!!
Cynthia: good idea I hadn't thought of that
AKTATTER: THE MORE PICOTS THE LACIER THE LOOK SUSANNER SO TRUE
AKTATTER: BETTER AND BETTER JANE
AKTATTER: OK LET'S TRY ANOTHER ONE
AKTATTER: LETS LOOK AT THE ALYESKA SNOWFLAKE
claudia: ok
MJB: k
AKTATTER: IT BEGINS WITH 6 OUTWARD FACING RINGS...WHY SIX??
Cynthia: to have 6 points at the end?
AKTATTER: 3 POINTS = TRIANGLE
Winkerbill: well....a snowflake has 6 sides....
AKTATTER: 4 POINTS = SQUARE OR RECTANGLE
claudia: dont know
AnneB: Snowflakes have 6-fold symmetry
AKTATTER: 5 POINTS = START
AKTATTER: STAR
Tine Vedder: a star has 6 points
AKTATTER: 6 POINTS = SNOWFLAKE
claudia: ahhhhhhhhhh
Tine Vedder: o sorry
AKTATTER: ALL TRUE SNOWFLAKES HAVE 6 OR A MULTIPLE OF 6 POINTS
Tine Vedder: ok
claudia: something new for me
AKTATTER: OK 6 OUTWARD FACING RINGS
Cynthia: ah I haven't looked at that many that closely
Winkerbill: Ok, I DID see that I could climb out of the center of this one....with a split ring
Dantatter: lol
AKTATTER: RIGHT WINK!
AKTATTER: IS THAT STEPH?
Cynthia: ta da we got it....
Winkerbill: even better, if I climb out (yeah, it's me) I don't have that ummm...foldover join to do at the end of the 6th ring
AKTATTER: I WAS PERSONALLY ACQUAINTED WITH A LOT OF SNOWFLAKES IN ALASKA CYNTHIA LOL
AnneB: You can find more on snowflakes here: http://www.its.caltech.edu/~atomic/snowcrystals/
Winkerbill: don't see that many snowflakes in the south....unless you make your own.
AKTATTER: OOOHHH LET'S SEE
Aanjel51: I have about six inches of them on the ground.  I could maybe send some your way
AKTATTER: WE COULD USE THOSE PHOTOS TO DESIGN FLAKES
Winkerbill: that would be fun....can I have 3 inches of your snow, please?
Cynthia: no thanks in OK they can't drive on them
Tine Vedder: m
claudia: they are beautiful!
Aanjel51: sending it your way
AKTATTER: OK SO LET'S START BY DOING A SPLIT RING FOR THE LAST OF THE 6 OUTWARD FACING RINGS
claudia: send it here.. it hot now!!! jaja
AKTATTER: USING A MOCK PICOT
Winkerbill: We had some snow one year....enoguh to make a tiny snowman with 3 big snowballs.  I put him in the freezer and took him out later...in the summer....
AKTATTER: AND THEN A SECOND SPLIT RING
AKTATTER: TO ENTER INTO THE SECOND ROUND
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Dantatter: what does jaja mean in English ?
Tine Vedder: yes yes
claudia: is like    lol  in english, i think
AKTATTER: IS SPLIT RING NEW TO ANYONE TODAY?
AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/SplitRings.htm
Winkerbill: no
Aanjel51: not me
MJB: no
AKTATTER: YES YES
claudia: im form argentina... spanish
Winkerbill: well, not to me
Cynthia: n
JaneEb: I think I would have left out the picots on the inner part of this round and maybe less on the outer side of the rings but that's 'just me'
Winkerbill: oh, no wonder it's hot there!
Dantatter: OK Claudia
AnneB: I love splitrings but not split chains, and I feel one comming up...
Winkerbill: I often use fewer picots than the pattern says to use....
AKTATTER: JANE HAS A GOOD POITN
MJB: I don't like splitchains either
Cynthia: yes so I I....Anne
Tine Vedder: y
AKTATTER: ALL THE PICOTS MAKE THE CENTER LOOK TOO BUSY
Winkerbill: so you'd climb into the last round with a split chain, then start the last round with a split chain?
JaneEb: That's the word - busy!!!
AKTATTER: LET'S DROP THOSE ON THE OUTERMOST SIDE THEN
AKTATTER: AND INORDER TO CLIMB INTO THE THIRD ROUND WHAT WILL WE DO?
Cynthia: I fear them as I struggle with them yet...and a few less would let the pattern show more of itself
AKTATTER: YES INDEED A SPLIT CHAIN
Dantatter: or crowded
AKTATTER: MOCK PICOT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/ctrmpspr.jpg
Tine Vedder: k
MJB: k
claudia: ok
Winkerbill: You know, I'd be tempted to put a tiny ring at the point where the last round joins to the round before....mostly to avoid starting with a split chain.
AKTATTER: THERE'S MARIE'S PAGE ON TEH SPLIT CHAIN
AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/SCHMarie.htm
AKTATTER: OK THEN ANY IMPROVEMETNS TO THE ROUND OF CHAINS?
Aanjel51: I have to work on that one, split chain
AKTATTER: OR THE TREFOILS?
Cynthia: With that I finally got it to look reasonably good
AKTATTER: I THINK IF YOU STUDY MARIE'S PAGE ANGELA YOU WIL LFIND IT SO MUCH EASIER TO DO
Aanjel51: I will look at it after class
Tine Vedder: m
Winkerbill: After 1 minute with Marie last September, I'm happily (and speedily) doing split chains....
MJB: I must work on that one
Winkerbill: I even LIKE them now!
MJB: really
AKTATTER: SEE THERE!
JaneEb: Try Mark's page on Marie's way of doing the split chain.  I'ts always good to have several pages to look at
AKTATTER: OK EXAMINE THE DESHKA SNOWFLAKE PLEASE
Cynthia: definatetly angela ....It is so much easier to have someone who knows how sho than learn from a page
AnneB: I'll consider revisitting the split chein ;-)
AKTATTER: GOOd ANNE
Winkerbill: now THAT one, every time I thought I'd found a way to do it in one round, I'd find a flaw in my thinking....
AKTATTER: SO THE CENTER IS 6 RINGS AND CHAINS
AKTATTER: YOU CAN USE ONE PICOT OF THE CHAIN
MJB: Georgia., where did you get the names for the snowflakes.?
claudia: yes
JaneEb: I think I'd have come out to the next round with a very small split ring - say 2 / 2 just so that there's a better join for following joins to the chains if you follow me!!
Tine Vedder: y
AKTATTER: DENALI = MT. MCKINLEY IN ATHABASCAN
AKTATTER: DESHKA AND ALYESKA ARE PLACE NAMES IN ALASKA
Tine Vedder: ok
Cynthia: I figured that and googled them....lol
AKTATTER: OK JANE
Winkerbill: So Alyeska must get fluffier snow than Denali or Deshka?
Aanjel51: since my daughter lives there I am learning more and more about AK
Winkerbill: <silly grin>
claudia: we can use a split chain?
AKTATTER: ALYESKA IS THE SKI RESORT SO YES IT GETS MORE SNOW
AKTATTER: YES CLAUDIA
AKTATTER: MAKE THE LAST CHAIN A S0PLIT CHAIN
AKTATTER: JUST 2 DS
Winkerbill: hehehehe....I was thinking of all the picots on that flake....  ;-)
AKTATTER: THEN MOCK PICOT
claudia: yes
MJB: thanks
AKTATTER: SPLIT RING THAT IS 1 QUARTER / 3 QUARTERS
Winkerbill: so far, that's one of the ways I'd thought of....
JaneEb: or a small SR ????
AKTATTER: THEN THROW OFF THE LARGER RING
AKTATTER: WHERE JANE?
AKTATTER: THE NEXT SIDE RING IS ALSO A SPLIT RING
AKTATTER: HALF AND HALF EXITING AT MID POINT TO BEGIN THE OUTER CHAINS
Winkerbill: then split chain back to where you left off?
AKTATTER: HMM WHEN I DREW IT IT TOOK ME TO THE OPPOSITE SIDE FROM THAT FIRST 2 DS SPLIT CHAIN
MJB: k
JaneEb: to take you out from the split chain to the next round?  Then the next joins can be small rings to prev round - makes a neater join, perhaps, maybe, peut etre?
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: IT SOUNDS VERY GOOD JANE, MAYBE YOU WILL DO A VERSION LIKE THAT ND SHARE WITH US??? HINT HINT
Dantatter: giggle
AKTATTER: :)
JaneEb: K, will do
AKTATTER: OK ANY FURTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR THE DESHKA?
claudia: what is giggle?
Tine Vedder: a grin
AKTATTER: LOL = GIGGLE
Winkerbill: a small laugh
claudia: ah... ok....
AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THOSE THREE?
AKTATTER: THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR CRITIQUE
MJB: no
Tine Vedder: no
Aanjel51: no
AKTATTER: ARE YOU GAME TO DO THE ANTIQUE PIECE NEXT ?
AnneB: sure
MJB: sure
Winkerbill: yeah!
AKTATTER: HAS ANYONE STUDIED THE PATH I MARKED?
Aanjel51: oh, why not
Cynthia: yes and thanks for being so brave and letting us critique your pattern
Dantatter: Which one is that?
Tine Vedder: ok
claudia: oki
AKTATTER: ANTIQUE PIECE OF LACE IS UNUSUAL FOR THE YELLO COLORED CORONATION CORD
AKTATTER: YOU FIND IT SUSANNE?
claudia: this cord is new for me...
AKTATTER: IT IS ECRU TATTING THREAD WITH YELLOW CORD
AKTATTER: IT IS NOT MADE ANYMORE CLAUDIA
AKTATTER: BUT THE CLASS STUDIES HOW TO MAKE SUBSTITUTES FOR IT
Dantatter: no it is ok, I can not do it
Tine Vedder: ok
claudia: yes i see, its an antique one,.. beautiful
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page4.gif
AKTATTER: THERE ARE MORE PAGES OF IT POSTED ONLINE
Cynthia: old and beautiful but we can substitute other thinkgs for it and make it work sometimes better
MJB: I couldn't find that one
AKTATTER: THE ORIGINAL PATTERN IS FROM THE MODERN PRISCILLA #2 PUB 1915 PG 8 FIG 19
AnneB: It should be psooible ot replace the cord with chains...
AKTATTER: IT WAS ALSO REPRINTED IN THE DOVER BOOK WHICH JULIA SANDERS EDITED
Winkerbill: how do we get to the "old" things online?
Winkerbill: I get "not found" ....
AKTATTER: RICKRACK MIGHT BE A GOOD SUBSTITUTE
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page4.gif
AKTATTER: THAT ONE IS FILE NOT FOUND??
Winkerbill: yes.
Dantatter: the link does not work here, sorry
Winkerbill: web page not found, I think it said
JaneEb: yes
claudia: yes
MJB: yes
AKTATTER: HMM EMAIL ME LATER AND i WILL SEND YOU THE PHOTOS
MJB: ok
AKTATTER: SO WHAT ABOUT THE PATH I MARKED OUT A TO a
Winkerbill: I have teh Julia Sanders reprint, just have to dig deep in my stash....
AKTATTER: DOES THAT SEEM WORKABLE?
AKTATTER: BEGINNING WITH THE CHAIN AT A
AKTATTER: YOU MAKE A PICOT AROUND TEH CORONATION CORD
AKTATTER: THEN ON EACH FOLLOWING CHAIN
AnneB: k
AKTATTER: AT LEAST 2 PICOTS GO OVER THE CORD
AKTATTER: AND NOTE THAT IT IS THE BEND TO WHICH IT JOINS
Winkerbill: do you think you could use the BDS and make long chains....wiht a small picot on each midpoint, join them where you would ordinarily have joined to the cord?
AKTATTER: CHAIS D AND E
AKTATTER: ARE SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT
MJB: k
AKTATTER: TEH CORONATION CORD STOPS AT CHAIN F
AKTATTER: THAT WOULD BE A GOOD VARIATION
Tine Vedder: k
AKTATTER: JOINING TOT HE RIGHT OR LEFT AND NOT JUST STRAIGHT ACROSS PERHAPS
AKTATTER: CHAIN F GOES TOWARD RING H
AKTATTER: AND THAT PATTERN CONTIUES DOWN TO CHAIN I
AKTATTER: SHORT CHAIN THEN RETURN TO THE PATTERN OVER TO J
AKTATTER: AND THE SHORT CHAINS AGAIN
AKTATTER: THAT IS CREATING SPACE TO TUCK IN AND JOIN THOSE RINGS FROM THE NEXT GO AROUND
AKTATTER: AFTER J THE PATTERN CONTINUES UP TO CHAIN K
Cynthia: ahha that is how it works
AKTATTER: WHICH JOINS BACK TO THE LAST RING MADE AND THE NEW CHAIN
AKTATTER: PATTERN BEGINS AT L
AKTATTER: THE CHAIN JOINS ON THE SIDE OF EACH RING NOW
AKTATTER: WITH A SHORT CHAIN BRIDGING THE GAP
AKTATTER: KINDA WEIRD CONSTRUCTION
AKTATTER: BUT IT IS REPEATED IN THE LAST ROUND
MJB: Sorry I have to go to the grave sites and put flowers on husbands grave
AKTATTER: BYE MJ BE CAREFUL DRIVING TODAY SLICK
AKTATTER: THE PATTERN CHANGES AGAIN AT N
Cynthia: Peace MJB
Tine Vedder: bye MBJ
AKTATTER: SHORT CHAINS AND THE RINGS THAT TUCK INTO THE PREVIOUS ROUNDS INDENTATIONS
Dantatter: Safe drive MJB
AKTATTER: NOTE P AND Q ALSO
AnneB: bye MJB
AKTATTER: THA LAST SMALL RING IS AT R
Tine Vedder: yes
AKTATTER: THE N RETURN TO THE REGULAR CHAIN PATTERN UP TO S
AKTATTER: A U-TURN AT T AND U
AKTATTER: AND THE LAST CHAINS START AT X AND CONTINUE TO Y
Tine Vedder: y
AKTATTER: WHERE THOSE SHORT CHAINS BETWEEN ELEMENTS SHOW UP AGAIN
AKTATTER: OVER TO Z
AKTATTER: THAT BACK TO THE NORMAL PATTERN TO THE TO PAND FINISH OFF
AKTATTER: SO THERE ARE 4 ROUNDS TO THIS PIECE
AKTATTER: YOUR HOMEWORK
AKTATTER: SHOULD YOU DECIDE TO ACCEPT THIS MISSION :)
AKTATTER: TAKE ONE OR MORE ROUNDS AND DETERMINE THE DS COUNT
AKTATTER: ANY TAKERS???
claudia: what a challenge!!!
AKTATTER: WELL PLEASE STUDY ON IT A BIT
Cynthia: maybe.....I'll need to find a magnifing class or print it a bit bigger....
Dantatter: I am not able to, sorry
Aanjel51: you got that right!
AKTATTER: THE CHALLENGE IT HOW WE GROW?
Cynthia: I'd prefer to do the snowflakes....but the other is more of a challenge
Cynthia: and could be fun as well
Tine Vedder: y
AKTATTER: WELL REWORKING THE SNOWFLAKES IS NOT A BAD IDEA
AKTATTER: JANE IS DOING ONE VARIATION SHALL YOU DO ONE TOO CYNTHIA?
Cynthia: I can see it as a jabot or blouse front...
AnneB: (should knit - should knit - need to be done by Christmas) A challenge is always (too) tempting ;-)
Winkerbill: I'm still sort of on "Dad-duty" so I'd better not take you up on this challenge....
claudia: ill try......a temptation!!!
Dantatter: lol Anne
AKTATTER: OK THEN I HOPE YOU ENJOYED THIS LOOK AT REVISING PATTERNS
AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS?
Dantatter: Yes thank you AK
Cynthia: lots to be done for all but we can give it a try....some start at A some at Z.....might work
AKTATTER: THE BEGINNERS CLASS IS MEETING ON THURSDAY AT 9PM ET (NEW YORK TIME)
AKTATTER: IT IS THEIR LAST CLASS SO I HOPE THAT SOME OF YUO AL WILL JOIN US
AKTATTER: TO CHEER THEM ON
Cynthia: Thank you AK    it was fun
DorcasAnn: thank you
AKTATTER: I NEED TO TAKE A VOTE TODAY
Tine Vedder: that is not a good time for me
Winkerbill: Thanks Georgia.  I've missed you and everyone in class SO much!
claudia: you give us tomuch fun work!!!
AKTATTER: SHALL WE STOP TODAY FOR THE YEAR?
Aanjel51: Yes, it was.  I always enjoy this class.
Cynthia: Please the beginners need to know they are not alone and there is help
Dantatter: I am asleep at that time
AKTATTER: OR MEET ONCE MORE ON THE 15TH?
Tine Vedder: yes
Dantatter: once more, please
Cynthia: We've all missed this.....MORE Yes
AnneB: Me to - sleeping.
AKTATTER: ME TOO STEPH
Aanjel51: meet again on the 15th
claudia: yes ,.. once more
Winkerbill: Can we meet again on the 15th?
Tine Vedder: on the 15
Winkerbill: please ?
Winkerbill: :-)
AKTATTER: GLAD YOU ARE STILL SMILING CLAUDIA
claudia: 15th the last?
AKTATTER: OK UNTIL THE 15TH THEN
Tine Vedder: ok
AKTATTER: THIS LESSON REPEATS AT 8:30PM ET TONIGHT
claudia: yes.... gigle.. jajjaja.,lol
AnneB: on the 15th - my cookies should be done by then :-)
Cynthia: See everyone on Thursday evening if possible
AKTATTER: THANK YOU ALL FOR STOPPING BY TODAY
AKTATTER: BE SAFE OUT THERE AND HAPPY TATTING
Tine Vedder: thanks Georgia
Dantatter: so next time will be with cookies and other Crhsitmas stuff
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claudia: thanks georgia, by all
Winkerbill: Il'l have tea here!
Cynthia: definately
Tine Vedder: till the 15th

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