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AKTATTER from x.x.x.78 cleared the room 50 minutes ago<BR>
JaneEb: Whoops where did everybody go?<BR>
AKTATTER: anyone still there? my screen went blank?<BR>
Tine Vedder: haha<BR>
RIDGETATTER: I don't know<BR>
soultatter: upssssssssssss<BR>
Paule: I' m here<BR>
Tine Vedder: we all are gone<BR>
Dantatter: I am here<BR>
RIDGETATTER: Screen went blank foir me tooo<BR>
soultatter: here tooo<BR>
AKTATTER: must be all those online shoppers overloading teh system today<BR>
Aanjel51: mine too. and I have a message that said AKtatter cleared the room<BR>
JaneEb: We are all back too, Tine!!!!<BR>
Tine Vedder: ok<BR>
Paule: For I moment I thought we were all dead!<BR>
RIDGETATTER: lol<BR>
AKTATTER: who me?<BR>
RIDGETATTER: same here<BR>
Dantatter: My screen said that too<BR>
RIDGETATTER: if we could 'think' we were dead&nbsp;&nbsp; hummm<BR>
Paule: I hd that message too!<BR>
Aanjel51: yup you AKTATTER<BR>
Cynthia from x.x.x.211 joined the chat 48 minutes ago<BR>
AnneB: I'm here too. Nor typing that fast though...<BR>
Tine Vedder: hi Cinhia<BR>
AKTATTER: oh I did it, I was removing the old chat message to have room for the new log today I'll bet that is what did it<BR>
RIDGETATTER: anyhoo&nbsp;&nbsp; I could not get to the lesson<BR>
AKTATTER: welcome cynthia<BR>
Tine Vedder: sorry cinthia<BR>
Cynthia: Hi every one<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Christmastree2008.htm<BR>
AKTATTER: try that on BJ<BR>
soultatter: hi cinthia<BR>
Paule: Don't you do that again AK&nbsp; scared all of us<BR>
Cynthia: It keeps going to that irrational internet explorer and I get no pictures only the words<BR>
AKTATTER: ok let's get started please sign in<BR>
AKTATTER: me too Paule<BR>
Tine Vedder: Tine Vedder&nbsp; from the Netherlands<BR>
Aanjel51: Angela MIracle, aanjel51@yahoo.com Lupton, Michiga<BR>
soultatter: claudia meza, argentina, cloelo@gmail.com<BR>
AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTEr@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA<BR>
JaneEb: Jane Eborall from the UK<BR>
AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsų, Norway<BR>
Paule: Try going back to Jane's site Cynthia<BR>
Paule: Bet you will get the pictures<BR>
Dantatter: Susanne aka Dantatter in Aarhus, Denmark<BR>
AKTATTER: YES jANE'S LINK WORKS BEST<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/Christmastree2008.htm<BR>
Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada toujoursvivante@videotron.ca<BR>
AKTATTER: DEC. 1, 2008<BR>
Tine Vedder: k<BR>
AKTATTER: THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS MEETS ON MONDAYS 3 PM AND 8:30PM et (nEW yORK TIME)<BR>
Cynthia: Cynthia Stevenson, brasthatfit@yahoo.com, Stillwater OK, USA<BR>
soultatter: ok<BR>
Cynthia: got it from the class...thanks for the link<BR>
RIDGETATTER: Hi Cynthia....&nbsp; ok Teach<BR>
RIDGETATTER: bev davis silver city new mexico&nbsp; beeloyal1@aol.com<BR>
AKTATTER: TODAYS'S LESSON IS SHARED BY JANE EBORALL<BR>
RIDGETATTER: :&amp;gt;)<BR>
AKTATTER: RUTH PERRY SEND HER REGRETS. HER LESSON WILL COME ON A DIFFERENT TIME<BR>
AnneB: That is 21:00 CET or 20:00 GMT/UT/UK<BR>
Tine Vedder: nice<BR>
soultatter: thanks jane<BR>
Kate: Kate Huttar, Dallas, Texas, USA, katelingo @ gmail dot com<BR>
AKTATTER: H DAN A DIABETIC HAS COME DOWN WITH A BAD INFECTION AND SHE IS AT THE HOSPITAL<BR>
Tine Vedder: yes Anne<BR>
AKTATTER: I KNOW YOU ALL JOIN ME IN SENDING BEST WISHES TO THEM BOTH<BR>
AKTATTER: ALSO<BR>
RIDGETATTER: yes<BR>
Tine Vedder: yes<BR>
AKTATTER: SHUTTLE BROTHER #2, GARY HOUTZ<BR>
Cynthia: beautiful Jane and yes!!!<BR>
AnneB: We do<BR>
AKTATTER: WAS FINALLY BEEN ABLE TO WALK A FEW STEPS USING CANES AND CRUTCHES<BR>
soultatter: yes, best wishes for them<BR>
RIDGETATTER: oh very good<BR>
Dantatter: Yes best wishes to them<BR>
AKTATTER: HE IS ABLE TO WORK A LITTLE NOW ALSO<BR>
RIDGETATTER: first steps are crucial&nbsp;&nbsp; I remember!!!!<BR>
RIDGETATTER: How wonderful<BR>
AKTATTER: I KNOW WE ALL HOPE TO SEE HIM TEACHING TATTING AGAIN SOON.YES THEY ARE BJ<BR>
AKTATTER: TEH MOST IMPORTANT AND THE MOST PAINFUL<BR>
JaneEb: Well done to the BFG.&nbsp; I'll write him tomorrow IF the brain remembers!!&nbsp; Sorry, BFG stands for big friendly giant as in Rhoald Dahl!!<BR>
AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO JANE FOR STEPPING IN AT THELAST MINUTE WITH THIS<BR>
RIDGETATTER: yes<BR>
Tine Vedder: Ridgetatter are you Beverly J from NM ?<BR>
AKTATTER: DELIGHTFUL TREE BROOCH AND EARRINGS<BR>
AnneB: Thanks Jane :-)<BR>
RIDGETATTER: yes&nbsp; and time is my friend in the north!!<BR>
Tine Vedder: ok<BR>
soultatter: bravo jane!!<BR>
RIDGETATTER: :&amp;gt;)<BR>
JaneEb: It's really quite easy too!!&nbsp; Not a hard pattern<BR>
Cynthia: Definately thank you Jane<BR>
AKTATTER: THE FIRST THING TO DO IS TO STUDY THE FIRST THREE DIAGRAMS<BR>
RIDGETATTER: y. jane<BR>
AKTATTER: IT MAY NOT BE A HARD LESSON<BR>
AKTATTER: BUT THERE IS A NEAT TRICK INVOLVED IN THE BEADING<BR>
Tine Vedder: verry good<BR>
JaneEb: There are a few tricks to it which make it easier.<BR>
RIDGETATTER: is it like the second Tia?<BR>
RIDGETATTER: TIAS?<BR>
AKTATTER: THOSE GREEN BEADS ARE NOT ON THE SHUTTLE THREAD!<BR>
soultatter: k<BR>
AKTATTER: TRY IT AND SEE<BR>
AKTATTER: TIAS<BR>
RIDGETATTER: hehehe<BR>
JaneEb: Thinking, thinking, thinking!!!&nbsp; The lady one?<BR>
Tine Vedder: y<BR>
AKTATTER: THEY ARE ADDED JUST BEFORE THE JOIN IS MADE TO THE<BR>
RIDGETATTER: yes<BR>
AKTATTER: PETITE PICOT ON THE SPLIT RINGS USED AS THE CENTER TRUNK<BR>
AKTATTER: VERY CLEVER JANE<BR>
AKTATTER: NOW THE DIRECTIONS SAY TO WORK UP TO THE FIRST BRANCH DOING THOSE SPLIT RINGS<BR>
JaneEb: Sort of like the TIAS<BR>
AKTATTER: FIRST RING IS NORMAL<BR>
AKTATTER: BUT IS IT THE TOP OR THE BOTTOM OF THE TREE?<BR>
Tine Vedder: m<BR>
AKTATTER: LOOK AT FIG 2<BR>
Dantatter: k<BR>
AKTATTER: AH HA<BR>
AKTATTER: RING 1 IS THE TOP<BR>
Tine Vedder: the top<BR>
RIDGETATTER: .<BR>
Aanjel51: .<BR>
AKTATTER: SO TAT THE FIRST RING<BR>
Paule: .<BR>
soultatter: first we begin whit hte split rings?<BR>
Tine Vedder: y<BR>
JaneEb: The first ring is the top of the tree.&nbsp; You work down to the bottom, out to the longest branch with a chain<BR>
AKTATTER: PLACING A LARGER BEAD IN THE CENTER OF IT BEFORE CLOSING<BR>
AKTATTER: YES CLAUDIA, EXCEPT #1RING IS NORMAL RING<BR>
Tine Vedder: m<BR>
RIDGETATTER: what size beads?<BR>
AKTATTER: RINGS 2 - 6 ARE SPLIT RINGS<BR>
soultatter: ok<BR>
Paule: Using whose method?<BR>
AKTATTER: THE SIXE OF THE BEADS IS OFTEN DETERMINED BY THE SIZE OF THE THREAD<BR>
RIDGETATTER: ok<BR>
AKTATTER: THERE ARE SEVERAL WAYS TO ADD BEADS TO THE CENTER OF A BEAD<BR>
Paule: yes<BR>
JaneEb: Add the beads to the centre of the SR's - use a slightly larger than a seed bead which will fit perfectly into the SR's.&nbsp; I usually take the core thread down from the centre of<BR>
JaneEb: the second very small picot, add the bead and then put the shuttle (working one)<BR>
Tine Vedder: y<BR>
JaneEb: through the loop.&nbsp; Bob's your uncle!!<BR>
Paule: Jenifer Williams method<BR>
AKTATTER: IF YOU NEED ALTERNATE METHODS TO ADD THE CENTER BEAD PLEASE EMAIL FOR DIAGRAMS LATER<BR>
Aanjel51: sorry I have too much happening here, have to go.<BR>
JaneEb: That's the one!!!<BR>
AKTATTER: oh? i THOUGHT i INVENTED THAT!<BR>
soultatter: ill do georgia,<BR>
Aanjel51 from x.x.x.156 left the chat 34 minutes ago<BR>
AKTATTER: LOL<BR>
AKTATTER: BYE ANGELA<BR>
RIDGETATTER: bye<BR>
Tine Vedder: bye<BR>
Paule: I'll try this one; if it doesn't work I'll e-mail<BR>
AKTATTER: OK NOW WE TAT THE SPLIT RIGNS TO THE BOTTOM<BR>
AKTATTER: OK<BR>
AnneB: bye<BR>
Tine Vedder: k<BR>
soultatter: k<BR>
RIDGETATTER: k<BR>
Cynthia: k<BR>
Paule: a diiferent method of adding beads to the center?<BR>
AKTATTER: NOW HERE IS WHERE i HVAE A QUESTION FOR JANE<BR>
JaneEb: OK<BR>
soultatter: we listen<BR>
AKTATTER: IF THE 6TH SPLIT RING IS THE BOTTOM OF THE TRUNK<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN DOES FIG 1 REALLY REPRESENT THE FIRST CHAIN?<BR>
AKTATTER: OR DO i HAVE IT BACK WARD?<BR>
AKTATTER: IF YOU NEED MOREMETHODS PAULE EMAIL ME AFTER CLASS<BR>
Tine Vedder: it do<BR>
Paule: ok<BR>
JaneEb: Yes.&nbsp; You work a chain outwards from SR6 so taht you're in position to start making the bead branches.&nbsp; Does that make sense?<BR>
AKTATTER: OK THEN WE WORK FROM THE BOTTOM UP TO THE TOP WHERE THE STAR IS<BR>
RIDGETATTER: ,<BR>
Cynthia: does that mean 6 is the bottom and the first branch is the longest?<BR>
Paule: I would wrap the chain...or amI out?<BR>
JaneEb: Yes, Cynthia<BR>
Cynthia: got it...thanks<BR>
AKTATTER: WHY NOT PAULE WRAPPING IS OK<BR>
AKTATTER: OK IF I UNDERSTAND CORRECTLY<BR>
soultatter: good idea<BR>
Tine Vedder: Jane&nbsp; The 6 red beads are thei on the thread?<BR>
AKTATTER: WE TAT THE LONG CHAIN AND PUT THE 5 RED BEADS ON THE END OF IT<BR>
JaneEb: It doesn't matter how you work the chain - standing on your head if you like!!!&nbsp; As long as the 'heads' of the ds are downwards towards the bottom of the tree<BR>
AKTATTER: LOL OK THEN<BR>
Tine Vedder: haha<BR>
JaneEb: On the CORE thread, not the chain thread<BR>
Cynthia: and the belt is up?<BR>
Tine Vedder: before tatting starts<BR>
Tine Vedder: ?<BR>
AKTATTER: OK THEN ALL THE RED BEADS MUST BE LOADED O NTHE SHUTTLE THREAD FIRST<BR>
soultatter: im confuse now<BR>
Tine Vedder: ok<BR>
AKTATTER: BUT THE GREEN BEADS AND CENTER BEAD ARE ADDED AS YOU TAT<BR>
AKTATTER: RIGHT JANE?<BR>
JaneEb: NO WAY.&nbsp; Don't add the beads to the shuttle threads - tooooo confusing.<BR>
AKTATTER: OK THEN THOSE 5 RED BEADS HAVE TO BE ADDED AS WE TAT THEN<BR>
RIDGETATTER: y<BR>
RIDGETATTER: easy peasy<BR>
JaneEb: The beads are added to the core thread much as you would add to the normal thread as in this method http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/AddBeadsonPicots.htm the first picture<BR>
AKTATTER: JUST PUT ONTO CROCHET HOOK AND PULL THE SHUTTLE THREAD UP<BR>
RIDGETATTER: and I'm not all that good with beads...so if I can do it&nbsp;&nbsp; you all can<BR>
AKTATTER: OH LET'S SEE<BR>
JaneEb: Yes the therad on the core shuttle.<BR>
Tine Vedder: aha I understand<BR>
Cynthia: bev you will get it once you triy it...once you get it once it will make sense...been there<BR>
Paule: p<BR>
AKTATTER: AH YES<BR>
RIDGETATTER: oh I do beads all the time...I'm just not 'expert'<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN TAT 2<BR>
Paule: Wait wait wait<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN USE SAME METHOD OF PULLING THE THREAD UP THRU THE BEADS<BR>
Cynthia: this is just a different technique and good when it clicks for you<BR>
JaneEb: If you look at the pictures at the top of the page they may help to see how the branches are made!<BR>
Paule: Jane you say at beginning of instructions<BR>
AKTATTER: LOAD ON THE NEXT7 GREEN BEADS<BR>
Paule: 2 shuttles 18 beads on S1<BR>
Tine Vedder: y<BR>
AKTATTER: PULL OUT EXTRA LOOP FROM LAST BEAD<BR>
Cynthia: those are the lights...right&amp;gt;\?<BR>
Tine Vedder: y<BR>
AKTATTER: AND THEN HOLD IT LONG ENOUGH<BR>
JaneEb: Yes, at the top of the pattern. I did that to help (probably confused you, though!!)<BR>
AKTATTER: REACH THE CROCHET HOOK THRU THE JOINING PICOT<BR>
AKTATTER: ON THE SPLIT RING<BR>
AKTATTER: PULL THROUGH MORE THREAD<BR>
AKTATTER: ADD ON 6 MORE GREN BEADS<BR>
Tine Vedder: k<BR>
AKTATTER: THE SECOND COLOR OF GREEN BEADS<BR>
RIDGETATTER: .<BR>
Tine Vedder: I see<BR>
AKTATTER: ADD ON 1 RED BEAD<BR>
JaneEb: That's right, Georgia.&nbsp; It does help perhaps when you do the first tree to put a paperclip to hold the two sets of beads while you work the next ds, B, ds<BR>
AKTATTER: TAT 1<BR>
Cynthia: ahha that's the trick<BR>
JaneEb: The red beads are already on the shuttle thread and just have to be moved along<BR>
AKTATTER: JOIN TO THE LOOP HELD OUT<BR>
AKTATTER: TAT 1 ADD RD BEAD TAT ONE<BR>
AKTATTER: REPEAT<BR>
Tine Vedder: ok<BR>
Kate: bye all, gotta run, hope to see you next week<BR>
AKTATTER: NEXT BRANCH HAS ONE LESS GREEN BEAD IN EACH ROUND<BR>
AKTATTER: BYE KATE<BR>
AKTATTER: WHEN YOU REACH THE FIRST RING AT THE TO POF THE TREE<BR>
AKTATTER: REFER BACK TO FIG 1<BR>
AKTATTER: CHAIN OVER AND JOIN TO THE PICOT ON RING ONE<BR>
AKTATTER: CHAIN UP TO WHERE THE STAR IS<BR>
Tine Vedder: y<BR>
AKTATTER: IS IT A LOCK JOIN TO THE BACK OF THE STAR?<BR>
RIDGETATTER: .<BR>
AKTATTER: OR DO YOU PULL THE LOOP OF THREAD UP THRU THE BUTTON'S EYE AND THEN DOWN THE OTHER SIDE?<BR>
AKTATTER: CATCH THE JUMP RIGN IN THERE TOO<BR>
soultatter: let me see.. is like im tatting a longgg chain, where the long picots with beads are the branches??<BR>
AKTATTER: CHAIN DOWN TO THE SMALL PICOT ON THE OPPOSITE OF THE FIRST RING<BR>
Paule: Jump ring?<BR>
AKTATTER: THAT IS RIGHT CLAUDIA<BR>
Dantatter: What is that<BR>
JaneEb: That's the way I do it - pull the loop up through the button hole on one side, down through the other hole and put the shuttle through the loop.&nbsp; Needs careful wriggling to tighten!!<BR>
soultatter: im understand know!!<BR>
AKTATTER: A SMALL ROUND METAL RING USED I NJEWELRY TO HAND SOMETHING FROM THE METAL FINDINGS<BR>
soultatter: ow<BR>
AKTATTER: OK<BR>
JaneEb: Like a key ring only smallllll<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN OU REPEAT THE BRANCHES ADDING A BEAD MORE IN EACH ROW<BR>
AKTATTER: AND WORK YOUR WAY DOWN TO THE BOTTOM<BR>
Dantatter: ok<BR>
Tine Vedder: or a button with aa legg<BR>
AKTATTER: ADD THE 5 RED BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN CHAIN ACROSS THE TO THE TRUNK<BR>
AKTATTER: IS THAT A LARGE BEAD JANE? OR A LARGE RING?<BR>
JaneEb: At the bottom?&nbsp; I use a large teardrop type of bead.&nbsp; You could use anything you like really.&nbsp; As long as there's a hole in it!!<BR>
Paule: p<BR>
Tine Vedder: ok<BR>
AKTATTER: OK THEN THAT'S IT FOR THE TREE<BR>
AKTATTER: THE EARRINGS HAVE ONLY 4 RINGS IN THE TRUCK<BR>
soultatter: ok<BR>
RIDGETATTER: .<BR>
AKTATTER: AND THE METHOD IS THE SAME<BR>
AnneB: ok<BR>
Cynthia: This is an incredible design...Thanks Jane and Georgia<BR>
JaneEb: The only difference is that I use a split ring (as in a key ring ring) behind the star bead for the ear finding to fix to<BR>
AKTATTER: OH GOOD POINT<BR>
JaneEb: I wonder if anybody in tat land has tried this pattern yet?<BR>
Tine Vedder: yes<BR>
soultatter: ill try it , sure!!<BR>
Tine Vedder: I ll try<BR>
Cynthia: not yet but I will<BR>
JaneEb: If you get stuck just shout!!!<BR>
RIDGETATTER: Oh Jane, the gal here in SCity contacted me and I put her in touch with Georgia, and Cynthia for Beginning classes.&nbsp; And we're getting together&nbsp;&nbsp; I have shuttles she can try out to decicde what she'd like'<BR>
soultatter: ok jane<BR>
AKTATTER: I'LL BET THEY WILL BE TRYING IT OUT NOW!<BR>
marco from x.x.x.240 joined the chat 11 minutes ago<BR>
RIDGETATTER: I think the Tree and ear rings rock<BR>
Tine Vedder: hi Marco<BR>
AKTATTER: WELCOME MARCO!<BR>
JaneEb: Whhooooppeeeee, Bev.&nbsp; I'm so glad.&nbsp; That's another needle tatter converted.&nbsp; My mission will continue!!<BR>
RIDGETATTER: hi marco<BR>
Tine Vedder: it is a nice tree<BR>
AnneB: I have a lovely pine green thread...<BR>
marco: i am marco from the netherlands<BR>
Cynthia: hi marco<BR>
RIDGETATTER: She made her own shuttle, can you believe it"?<BR>
marco: hello<BR>
soultatter: hello marco<BR>
AKTATTER: WOW THAT IS NEAT<BR>
Paule: OH Marco yiu just missed a good lesson...<BR>
JaneEb: I'm goint to make black trees - black thread and white / silver beads<BR>
AKTATTER: I THINK THIS CONCEPT OF BEADING<BR>
RIDGETATTER: she is very persistent in her efforts.<BR>
Cynthia: she is ready to learn....I sent her a message<BR>
RIDGETATTER: good<BR>
Tine Vedder: Marco I ll tell you all<BR>
marco: oooooooo deer?<BR>
AKTATTER: WOULD LEND ITSELF NICELY TO MAKING BEADED TATTED BRACELETS<BR>
JaneEb: Made her own shuttle?&nbsp; She's keeeen.&nbsp; Thanks for offering to teach her, Bev<BR>
marco: thanks<BR>
AKTATTER: OH THAT COLOR COMBE WOULD BE STUNNING<BR>
Dantatter: Is your mission to convert needle tatters into shuttle tatters ?<BR>
RIDGETATTER: oh my pleasure&nbsp;&nbsp; compnay&nbsp; yeah!<BR>
AKTATTER: WE ALL NEED TO KNOW HOW TO DO NEEDLE TATTING AS WELL AS SHUTTLE TATTING SUZANNE<BR>
RIDGETATTER: Well, she didn't conquer the needle so decided to switch&nbsp;&nbsp; Said just she had a mess<BR>
AKTATTER: BUT MY PREFERNCE WILL ALWAYS BE SHUTTLE TATTING :)<BR>
Dantatter: Yes of course<BR>
JaneEb: Well, Georgia, you wait until you see what else I've found out with beads!!!&nbsp; I'm sitting on it until I see if I can teach it at Palmetto.&nbsp; I'm very excited about it.<BR>
Tine Vedder: me&nbsp; too<BR>
Cynthia: true there is room for both just not at the same time in my hands<BR>
Dantatter: I probably got jane wtong<BR>
Dantatter: wrong<BR>
AKTATTER: OH MY GOOD NESS WHAT A MEAN THING TO TEL LME I'LL LOSE SLEEP JUST TRYING TO JUST WHAT YOU ARE UP TO!<BR>
Paule: I have to go; G. see you tonight<BR>
AKTATTER: BYE PAULE<BR>
Paule: I will need a repeat lesson!<BR>
Tine Vedder: bye Paule<BR>
marco: bye paule<BR>
Paule: Bye everyone<BR>
AKTATTER: ME TOO i HAD LOTS OF QUESTIONBS TODAY<BR>
marco: me too<BR>
JaneEb: I believe needle is fine for some to learn BUT that shuttle is true and 'proper' tatting.&nbsp; I've got to believe that as I've never conquered the needle!!!!!<BR>
marco: hehe<BR>
RIDGETATTER: LOL&nbsp; perfect logic<BR>
Tine Vedder: yes<BR>
Dantatter: shuttle was here first<BR>
AKTATTER: LOL GREAT THOUGHT<BR>
marco: hello ridgetatter?<BR>
Cynthia: Jane to conquer the needle think wrap the thread and it will work<BR>
marco: were are you from<BR>
AKTATTER: OK AER THERE ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR JANE?<BR>
RIDGETATTER: yes<BR>
marco: ?<BR>
RIDGETATTER: Ridgetatter is from New Mexico, USA?"<BR>
AKTATTER: THIS LESSON WILL REPEAT TONIGHT 8:30PM ET (NEW YORK TIME)<BR>
Tine Vedder: marco&nbsp; from NM<BR>
JaneEb: YEs?<BR>
marco: haha<BR>
soultatter: right now,,, no but when i begin the earrings... perhaps!!!<BR>
RIDGETATTER: good&nbsp;&nbsp; I'll print the pattern and start<BR>
AKTATTER: OK CLAUDIA JUST LET US KNOW<BR>
soultatter: thanks for this lesson jane, georgia<BR>
marco: than i am sleeping!!hophely<BR>
AKTATTER: I HAVE SOME HOMEWORK TO SHOW YOU<BR>
Tine Vedder: before she was BJ<BR>
JaneEb: Without me, though?&nbsp; I HOPE to sleep tonight.&nbsp; Not been doing too well lately as lots of probs to sort out.<BR>
Tine Vedder: ok<BR>
Dantatter: Thank you Jane and AK<BR>
AKTATTER: FROM PATTY DOWDEN http://www.rr1.net/users/aktatter/2008/pattydencapfloralspray.jpg<BR>
RIDGETATTER: BJ&nbsp; was quick to type on the old chat room<BR>
Cynthia: Jane Peace and Thank you.<BR>
AKTATTER: GLAD YOU CAME TODAY SUZANNE<BR>
marco: o that is not good<BR>
RIDGETATTER: Thanks Jane<BR>
soultatter: georgia&nbsp; ill email you for the pictures on how to add beads<BR>
AnneB: I' sending sleepy thoughts to you Jane!<BR>
AKTATTER: AND FROM ANNE BRUVOLD http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2008/11/flere-hjemmelekser.html<BR>
Tine Vedder: m<BR>
AKTATTER: GREAT WORK BOTH OF YOU!<BR>
AnneB: thanks!<BR>
AKTATTER: JANE THANKS FOR STAYIN G UP SO&nbsp; LATE TO&nbsp; JOIN US<BR>
RIDGETATTER: I did the free tatting home work&nbsp;&nbsp; its on my blog<BR>
Dantatter: lovely work<BR>
JaneEb: Thanks for sleepy thoughts - I really need them!!!<BR>
AKTATTER: LINK US BJ?<BR>
Tine Vedder: Jane thanks for it<BR>
RIDGETATTER: www.ridgewoman.blogspot.com<BR>
JaneEb: It's not late here - nearly nine o'clock but I'm drop dead tired.<BR>
RIDGETATTER: I don't know how to do the link&nbsp; sorry<BR>
soultatter: good job&nbsp; both of them!!! i have to tat that lesson<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.ridgewoman.blogspot.com<BR>
JaneEb: I love the homework.<BR>
RIDGETATTER: thanks Georgia<BR>
AKTATTER: if you send the full url it makes it clickable for us<BR>
RIDGETATTER: oh ok<BR>
JaneEb: WOW BJ - ace stuff.<BR>
Dantatter: pretty too<BR>
RIDGETATTER: it was so much fun<BR>
Cynthia: Awesome BJ<BR>
RIDGETATTER: would be easy to get sidettracked from UFO's&nbsp;&nbsp; lol<BR>
AKTATTER: oh I like all the colors in teh second one bj<BR>
RIDGETATTER: I'm working my way thru Helma's book now&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; Lucky GEorgia had her for a teacher<BR>
JaneEb: BACK to ufo's Bev!!!!&nbsp; Soonest done soonest time to play again!<BR>
AKTATTER: any announcements? last call for questions?<BR>
RIDGETATTER: Thanks&nbsp; I thought it looked very autum/Chrismas<BR>
soultatter: thank for the class.!! bye all<BR>
RIDGETATTER: bye soultatter<BR>
marco: i say bye to everione!!!until nex time<BR>
Dantatter: no, not at all<BR>
JaneEb: Bye Marco, bye everybody who's going.<BR>
Tine Vedder: bye all till next week<BR>
RIDGETATTER: by&nbsp; see you later<BR>
marco: bye&nbsp; bye<BR>
Dantatter: Yes bye everyone<BR>
AKTATTER: alright then thanks for stopping by Happy Tatting all and Good Night Jane and Suzanne<BR>
AKTATTER: bye<BR>
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Dantatter: God nat Anne :-)<BR>
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The Online Tatting Class<BR>
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AKTATTER: BEFORE WE GET STARTED I WOULD LIKE TO SHARE SOME HOME WORK WITH YOU<BR>
Marie Smith from x.x.x.171 joined the chat 48 minutes ago<BR>
AKTATTER: FROM PATTY DOWDEN A FREE FORM FLORAL SPRAY USING THE TECHNIQUE FROM LAST WEEK'S LESSON<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.rr1.net/users/aktatter/2008/pattydencapfloralspray.jpg<BR>
AKTATTER: AND FROM aNNE bRUVOLD IN NORWAY<BR>
JB: how pretty<BR>
Marie Smith: Marie Smith Anderson SC USA&nbsp; tattingwithmarie at yahoo<BR>
AKTATTER: 2 VERSIONS OF THE FLORAL SPRAY IN AUTUMN COLORS<BR>
AKTATTER: WELCOME MARIE<BR>
AKTATTER: http://nuperelle.blogspot.com/2008/11/flere-hjemmelekser.html<BR>
Marie Smith: thanks<BR>
AKTATTER: ANNE'S SECOND VERSION IS A GREAT COLOR COMBO I THINK<BR>
mab2012: they are just gorgeous - looks complicated, I will have to read the logs<BR>
OwenJulesMommy: both are GREAT!<BR>
NancyCarol: Gorgeous pieces!<BR>
JeanneZ: beautiful work from both<BR>
Cynthia: isn't it fun when something that easy looks so awesome???<BR>
Marie Smith: beautiful<BR>
JeanneZ: where is it we find the logs again I can't seem to find them<BR>
AKTATTER: ON THE LESSON PAGE AFTER EVERY LESSON LINK<BR>
AKTATTER: THERE IS THE LINK TO THE LOG<BR>
JeanneZ: ok thanks<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.rr1.net/users/aktatter/index.html<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN SCROLL DOWN ON THE LEFT TO 2008 INDEX<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN THE LESSONS AND THE LOGS ARE LISTED BY DATE NEWEST ONE FIRST<BR>
JeanneZ: thank you<BR>
AKTATTER: NOT COMPLICATED MAUREEN AND VERY RELAXING WORK<BR>
AKTATTER: AS THERE IS NO HARD ANF FAST PATTERN YOU MAKE IT UP AS YOU GO<BR>
mab2012: good to hear - I need relaxing!<BR>
AKTATTER: NOW DID EVERYONE GET THE LESSON ON SCREEN OR PRINTED?<BR>
JeanneZ: yes<BR>
Cynthia: y<BR>
Marie Smith: yes<BR>
mab2012: printed in front of me<BR>
NancyCarol: y<BR>
OwenJulesMommy: yes<BR>
JB: yes<BR>
Paule from x.x.x.206 joined the chat 42 minutes ago<BR>
AJ: yes<BR>
Paule: Allo everyone<BR>
JeanneZ: Hi Paule<BR>
AKTATTER: WELCOME BACK PAUEL<BR>
AKTATTER: OK FIRST I SHOULD MENTION THAT RUTH PERRY SENDS GREETINGS<BR>
Paule: yes<BR>
Paule: Allo Jeanne<BR>
AKTATTER: HER DH , A DIABETIC, GOT A BAD INFECTION AND SHE'S BEEN IN HOSPITAL WITH HIM<BR>
JB: Please send greeting back<BR>
AKTATTER: WE'LL SHARE HER PATTERN ANOTHER DAY<BR>
AKTATTER: AND I HAD A MESSAGE FROM SHUTTLE BROTHER #2 GARY HOUTZ<BR>
Cynthia: from all of us to her and our best thoughts as well<BR>
AKTATTER: HE REPORTS PROGRESS<BR>
AKTATTER: HE HAS BEEN ABLE TO TAKE A COUPLE OF STEPS<BR>
Cynthia: great<BR>
AKTATTER: USING CANE AND CRUTCHES<BR>
AKTATTER: WILL DO CYN<BR>
mab2012: that is ecouraging<BR>
JeanneZ: Wow bet that made him feel good<BR>
JB: that is very good news<BR>
TeresaW: absolutely super for Gary... that's a really, really long way from where he was when I spoke to him in June.<BR>
AKTATTER: YES IT HE VERY PLEASED FIRST STEPS ARE VERY IMPORTANT AND VERYPAINFUL USUALLY<BR>
Paule: G. you probably heard about the fund raiser for Gary?<BR>
AKTATTER: YES HE HAS STILL A LONG WAY TO GO BUT HAS A GREAT ATTITUDE<BR>
AKTATTER: YES I RECALL IS IT SSTILL GOING ON?<BR>
JeanneZ: Is he tatting or able to tat<BR>
Paule: a kit for a magic thread ?<BR>
AKTATTER: YES HE CAN TAT SOME NOW TOO<BR>
TeresaW: Yes, I still have several left ... second go around for that one ... Thanks to everyone.<BR>
Paule: I don't know if it still going on...<BR>
JeanneZ: that helps pass some of his time then<BR>
AKTATTER: TERESA IS THAT AVAILABLE?<BR>
Paule: AH<BR>
TeresaW: ye'um.<BR>
TeresaW: yes'um ...<BR>
AKTATTER: OK WILL YOU ADD THE DETAILS HERE IN THE LOG PLEASE<BR>
AKTATTER: JUST CONTACT YOU FOR THE KITS?<BR>
Paule: Teresea! I didn't know you were there!<BR>
AKTATTER: LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT JANE'S CHRISTMAS TREE<BR>
AKTATTER: BEADS, BEADS, BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: 2 SHUTTLES<BR>
TeresaW: Fund raiser is a 3-page description with photos and diagrams. Suggested $3.00 ea includes 2 types of filaments loops. e-mail me at tattingteresa@gmail.coom<BR>
JeanneZ: I love this pattern is Jane here to thank<BR>
AKTATTER: DIRECTIONS SAY ADD 18&nbsp; BEADS TO SH1<BR>
AKTATTER: BUT<BR>
AKTATTER: THANKS TW<BR>
AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT THE RED BEADS ON THE TREE DIAGRAM<BR>
JB: Can you refresh my memory on inserting a bead in the center of a ring?<BR>
AKTATTER: I COUNT 14 ON EACH SIDE<BR>
AKTATTER: SO I THINK WE SHOULD CHANGE THAT TO 28<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasics.html<BR>
AKTATTER: SURE JB<BR>
JeanneZ: right that little circle of beads<BR>
AKTATTER: THERE ARE A COUPLE OF WAYS<BR>
AKTATTER: BUT PERHAPS I AM WRONG JEANNE??<BR>
AKTATTER: IF THOSE TWO GROUPS OF 5 RED BEADS WERE DONE AS A LONG BEADED PICOT lbp<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN 18 WOULD BE CORRECT<BR>
Sherong: Bad link Georgia<BR>
mab2012: but I think that the beads at the bottom are addedstraight onto the picot, aren't they? - so should still be 18 on shuttle<BR>
AKTATTER: OK NOW DON'T ANYONE TELL JANE i MESSED UP HER PATTERN LOL<BR>
AKTATTER: I THINK THAT TOO MAUREEN I WAS TOO HASTY IN MY COUNT<BR>
JB: The Bead Basics link did not work<BR>
AKTATTER: JB THE EASIEST WAY TO ADD THE BEAD IN THE CENTER IS TO TAT THE RING<BR>
AKTATTER: OK DRAT OF COURSE SORRY<BR>
RIDGETATTER from x.x.x.5 joined the chat 33 minutes ago<BR>
Cynthia: old habits are hard to break...lol<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/tonyabeadsr.htm<BR>
Marie Smith: Hi Bev<BR>
AKTATTER: BOY WILL I BE GLAD WHEN MY WEBSITE IS BACK UP<BR>
RIDGETATTER: bev davis Silver City NM&nbsp; beeloyal1@aol.com&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; HI<BR>
AKTATTER: HI BJ<BR>
AKTATTER: OK JB TAT RING<BR>
Sherong: Any idea when that will be?<BR>
NancyCarol: Any guess about a date for the site's return?<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN BEFORE CLOSING GO BAK TO MID POINT<BR>
mab2012: Hello BJ!<BR>
JeanneZ: So it is 18 we add to shuttle 1<BR>
Sherong: And Tonya's way didn't work for me, any other ideas?<BR>
AKTATTER: SHOULD HAVE BEEN LAST WEEK SHERON SIGH<BR>
AKTATTER: RIGHT JEANNE<BR>
AKTATTER: GO BACK TO MID POINT AND PULL DOWN THE CORE THREAD ENOUGH TO SLIDE THE BEAD ON<BR>
Sherong: Worse than getting a new computer<BR>
AKTATTER: SLIP THE SHUTTLE THRU THAT LOOP<BR>
AKTATTER: HEN CLOSE UP RING<BR>
mab2012: this is the bit I will have to study - adding onto the split ring<BR>
RIDGETATTER: ,<BR>
AKTATTER: WELL YOU CAN TAT THE RING HALF WAY<BR>
Paule: p<BR>
OwenJulesMommy: ,<BR>
mab2012: yes, tat half the SR - I can do that<BR>
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AKTATTER: AND HAVE THE BEAD ON A THRID THREAD<BR>
RIDGETATTER: .<BR>
AKTATTER: THIRD THREAD<BR>
AKTATTER: YOU SLIP THE BEAD INTO THE CENTER OF THE RING<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN ENCAPSULATE THE THREAD AS YOU EXIT THE SPLIT RING<BR>
AKTATTER: IF YOU WOULD LIKE DIAGRAMS PLEASE EMAIL ME AFTER CLASS<BR>
NancyCarol: Do you all see the little OK at the very rightmost end of the box you type in?&nbsp; If you click on it periodically, then you don't have to type in random characters/letters to stay in the chat.<BR>
AKTATTER: OK THE FIRST RING OF THE TREE TRUNK<BR>
RIDGETATTER: THANKYOU<BR>
AKTATTER: IS A REAGULAR RING<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN YOU BEGIN THE NEXT 5 SPLIT RINGS<BR>
AKTATTER: WHICH EACH HAVE VERY TINY JOINING PICOTS ON EACH SIDE<BR>
Paule: Ty carol<BR>
AKTATTER: AFTER RING 6 CLOSES THEN YOU ARE TATTING OR WRAPPING A CHAIN<BR>
AKTATTER: THAT IS THE BOTTOM BRANCH IT HAS NO BEADS<BR>
mab2012: not wanting to hold up tha class, but the first ring would have to have the bead on the thread, wouldn't it?<BR>
AKTATTER: GREAT TIP NANCY<BR>
mab2012: how do you addd a bead to the middle of a normal ring?<BR>
AKTATTER: NO THE BEADS IN THE CENTER DO NOT<BR>
AKTATTER: HAVE TO BE ON THE SHUTTLES<BR>
mab2012: ok<BR>
AKTATTER: YOU PULL UP A LOOP OF THREAD AND SLIDE THEM OVER IT<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN POST THE SHUTTLE THRU AND CLOSE THE RING<BR>
mab2012: even with a normal ring, you can do that?<BR>
AKTATTER: RIGHT<BR>
mab2012: thank you<BR>
Paule: TIAS try it and see<BR>
AKTATTER: OK AT THE TIP OF THE BRANC<BR>
mab2012: will do<BR>
Cynthia: yes but be careful closing the ring it can be fiddly to get it<BR>
AKTATTER: WE ADD ON THE BEADS IN RED<BR>
Paule: Just be calm<BR>
AKTATTER: THESE ARE THE 5 BEADS NOT ON THE SHUTTLE<BR>
AKTATTER: TO SEE A GREAT DIAGRM OF HOW TO LOAD THESE BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: AND HOW TO MAKE THE JOIN THAT TURNS IT INTO A PICOT<BR>
AKTATTER: PLEASE SEE<BR>
AKTATTER: http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/AddBeadsonPicots.htm<BR>
AKTATTER: THAT SHOULD CLEAR UP SOME OF THE CONFUSION<BR>
AKTATTER: IN THE NEW DIAGRAM YOU SEE THE PURPLE BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: THERE IS A LOOP OF CORE THREAD<BR>
AKTATTER: PULLED THROUGH THOSE BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: AND JUST ENOUGH EXTRA<BR>
AKTATTER: SO THAT THE SH1 CAN GO THRU IT<BR>
AKTATTER: THIS JOIN CAN BE MADE IMMEDIATELY AFTER THE BEADS ARE ADDED<BR>
mab2012: that bit I remember from the TIAS<BR>
AKTATTER: OR 1 OR MORE DS CAN BE TATTED<BR>
AKTATTER: AND THEN THE JOIN IS MADE<BR>
Paule: So be sure to choose beads that can accomadate double your thread!<BR>
Paule: Or you will cry!<BR>
AKTATTER: TRUE! AND A CROCHET SMALL ENOUGH TO GO THROUGH THEM TOO<BR>
AKTATTER: ALSO LOOK AT THE LOWERS DRAWINGS<BR>
Paule: yes<BR>
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AKTATTER: IF THE BEADS WERE HANGING DOWN THE OTHER WAY<BR>
AKTATTER: THAT IS WHAT THE LOOP WOULD LOOK LIKE FOR PUTTING THE BEAD IN THE CENTER OF THE RING<BR>
AKTATTER: SO WE ARE READY NOW<BR>
AKTATTER: PULL THE THREAD THRU THE 5 BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: JOIN<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN BEGIN THE GIANT PICOT LOOP<BR>
AKTATTER: PULL ENOUGH CORE THREAD THRU 7 GREEN BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: AND THEN MORE<BR>
AKTATTER: JUST ENOUGH WO THAT YOU CAN HOLD ON TO IT<BR>
AKTATTER: WHILE YOU REMOVE THE CROCHET HOOK<BR>
AKTATTER: SLIP IT THROUGH THE TINY PICOT<BR>
AKTATTER: ON THE SIDE OF THE SPLIT RING<BR>
AKTATTER: AND THEN PICK UP THE LOOP AGAIN<BR>
AKTATTER: ADD ON 6 OF THE DARKER GREEN BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN JOIN&nbsp; TAT 1 THEN SINGLE BEAD FROM THE SH1 AND TAT 1<BR>
AKTATTER: EACH ROW OF GREEMS BEADS IS REDUCED BY ONE BEAD<BR>
AKTATTER: AS YOU GO UP THE SIDE OF THE TREE<BR>
AKTATTER: QUESTIONS ON THIS PART?<BR>
JeanneZ: there are 7 lighter beadas and only 6 darker green beads right<BR>
AKTATTER: EXACTLY RIGHT<BR>
JeanneZ: then 1 less of each on each branch<BR>
AKTATTER: RIGHT AGAIN<BR>
JeanneZ: ok<BR>
Cynthia: so the bottom is a bit longer than the top of the branch<BR>
AKTATTER: RIGHT IS TAPERS<BR>
AKTATTER: WHEN YOU GET TO THE LAST ROW<BR>
AKTATTER: YOU SHOULD LOOK AT FIG 1<BR>
JeanneZ: almost looks like it is the lower side that is shorter than the upper part of each branck<BR>
AKTATTER: IT HAS THE START AND RINGS ONE AND TWO<BR>
AKTATTER: YES IT DOES IN THE PHOTO BUT NOT IN THE DIAGRAMS<BR>
JeanneZ: dark on bottom and light on top but then the directions of pictures are the opposite<BR>
Cynthia: it is upside down as you are woking from the bottom up...try it<BR>
AKTATTER: YES THAT IS IT<BR>
Paule: you are Jeanne<BR>
Paule: right<BR>
AKTATTER: AFTER THE LAST ROW CHAIN OVER AND JOIN TO THE SMALL PICOT ON RING 1<BR>
AKTATTER: CHAIN UP AND BRING THE CORE UP THRU THE BUTTON'S EYE AND THE JUMPRING<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN DOWN THRU THE OTHER EYE<BR>
AKTATTER: SLIP THE SHUTTLE THRU THAT LOOP ALSO AND TIGHTEN UP<BR>
JeanneZ: has anyone seen where you can get the star<BR>
AKTATTER: ONTINUE TO CHAIN DOWN THE OTHER SIDE TO<BR>
AKTATTER: THE TINY PICOT ON THE OTHER SIDE OF RING 1<BR>
AKTATTER: I HAVE SEEN SOME BUTTONS BUT NONE SMALL ENOUGH SO FAR<BR>
AKTATTER: EXCEPT FOR SEQUIN STARTS<BR>
AKTATTER: STARS<BR>
AKTATTER: THEN REPEAT THE CHAINS FOR THE BRANCHES<BR>
Cynthia: they can be a challenge to find<BR>
Marie Smith: Have seen them at Hancocks and maybe Michaels<BR>
JeanneZ: the sequine might be about the right size<BR>
AKTATTER: THIS TIME ADDING A BEAD ON EACH ROW<BR>
mab2012: I have seen packets of them in our Spotlight store<BR>
AJ: Gotta go.&nbsp; Will catch you next week.&nbsp; Bye<BR>
AKTATTER: AFTER THE LAST LBP JOIN CHAIN 2 THEN<BR>
JeanneZ: will have to look around for them<BR>
JB: What is Spotlight store?<BR>
AKTATTER: ADD ON THOSE LAST 5 RED BEADS<BR>
AKTATTER: BY DOING THE LBP JOIN AGAIN<BR>
AKTATTER: THE REST OF THE CHAIN IS TATTED NORMALLY<BR>
AKTATTER: OVER TO JOIN TO THE BOTTOM OF SPLIT RING 6<BR>
AKTATTER: AND jANE ADDED A LONG DANGLE BEAD TO SERVE AS THE TURNK<BR>
mab2012: large chain of craft/hobby stores all over Australia<BR>
AKTATTER: i DON'T KNOW THAT STORE<BR>
JB: oh.<BR>
AKTATTER: THE EARRINGS USE THE SAME METHOD BUT HAVE ONLY 4 RINGS ON THE TRUNK<BR>
AKTATTER: BY AJ<BR>
Paule: None in Canada I bet<BR>
Cynthia: check stores that carry scrapbooking things&nbsp; I saw some there<BR>
mab2012: sells everything, except the colour you happen to want at the time<BR>
AKTATTER: THIS IS A LITTLE FIDDLY READING IT<BR>
Paule: Good idea C.<BR>
AKTATTER: BUT I THINK THAT DOING IT WOULD BE EASY<BR>
NancyCarol: I want to wear these earrings to some Christmas parties in the next few weeks, so I'd better start searching<BR>
AKTATTER: ISN'T THAT ALWAYS TRUE?<BR>
JB: Georgia, you make the pattern sound so simple.<BR>
AKTATTER: JANE ALSO SUGGESTED A BLACK AND SILVER OR BLACK AND GOLD COLOR COMBO<BR>
AKTATTER: FOR HOLIDAY PARTIES OR nEW'S YEARS PERHAPS<BR>
Paule: I agree with G. fiddly indeed!&nbsp; Easy to loose your place!<BR>
AKTATTER: QUESTIONS?<BR>
mab2012: I don't wear earrings, so it's the brooch I want to make<BR>
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mab2012: wil have to practise that bead in the ring thing<BR>
JB: I want to make the brooch as well.<BR>
JeanneZ: I have some clip ons that look like pierced so I am going to try to make the earrings<BR>
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