The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Mon Nov 17 21:11:01 2008 GMT (247 KB) Page 5 of 5 - Char 204870 to 253930 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ soultatter: not snow!! MJB: what weather!!!!!!! soultatter: you receive my homework georgia? soultatter: - AKTATTER: Yes I see it now I will upload it after class AnneB from x.x.x.102 joined the chat 64 minutes ago Paule from x.x.x.5 joined the chat 64 minutes ago Tine Vedder: hi soultatter: ok Paule: Hello everyone! Tine Vedder: Hi Paule soultatter: hi paule MJB: Hi Paule AKTATTER: Paule! Still alive and tatting Paule: Yes! AKTATTER: I am so glad to see you. AKTATTER: And, Jenny, is this Jenny Griffin? Jenny: yes AKTATTER: Tine you came back I saw you were here earlier glad you made it Paule: I am glad too! Thought I had lost you forever! AKTATTER: Dorcas we missed you last week :) AnneB: Hi all! Tine Vedder: yes I was verry early AKTATTER: It has been a rough few weeks with the loss of Ron DorcasAnn: thanks AKTATTER: but I am hoping that my ISP will have the website restored today!!! soultatter: georgia, sorry, but ,can I get the pictures of the alligator join, i mention in the mail? Tine Vedder: I thought Iwas wrong AKTATTER: welcome Jenny AKTATTER: oh sure Jenny: thanks. i'm so glad the class started again soultatter: you send me or i try again in your website? AKTATTER: p://www.rr1.net/users/aktatter/2007/alligatorjoin.html soultatter: hi jenni AKTATTER: see if that works Claudia if not I will email it AKTATTER: opps put in the http soultatter: ok, thanks i ll try it ridgetatter from x.x.x.5 joined the chat 60 minutes ago ridgetatter: I had gone to look at the basic wheel url Tine Vedder: what are we going to do this evening ? ridgetatter: That Christmas ornament shown on page is very pretty AKTATTER: we are taking a look at the construction of the basic wheel tine AKTATTER: thanks Ridge AKTATTER: so ok let's get started ridgetatter: k AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Tine Vedder: o yes I see ridgetatter: beverly june davis silver city new mexico beeloyal1@aol.com AKTATTER: NOV. 17, 2008 AFTERNOON SESSION soultatter: claudia meza, cloelo@gmail.com, argentina Tine Vedder: Tine Veder from the Netherlands MJB: Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana Kate: Kate Huttar, Dallas, Texas USA; katelingo @ gmail.com AKTATTER: LESSON IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/alligatorjoin.html DorcasAnn: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA Jenny: jenny .griffin@tiscali.co.uk. Northampton England Paule: Paule Primeau Boucherville Québec Canada toujoursvivante@videotron.ca AKTATTER: WELCOME ONE AND ALL AnneB: Anne Bruvold, Tromsø, Norway AKTATTER: WELCOME ANNE FROM NORWAY IS THIS YOUR FIRST VISIT? Tine Vedder: ok ridgetatter: Oh Anne I love your dragon AnneB: Yes, and my first time chatting. AKTATTER: OH MY IS THERE A DRAGON IN THE HOUSE? PLEASE GIVE US THE LINK ANNE AnneB: Thanks Ridge AKTATTER: WE ARE DELIGHTED TO HAVE YOU WITH US. JENNY IS THIS YOUR SECOND VISIT? AKTATTER: AND PAULE REJOINS US AFTER A LONG ABSENCE Paule: yes! AKTATTER: WE ARE MISSING A TATTER FROM THE CLASS TODAY AKTATTER: DEBBIE STRICKLAND FROM PALMETTOS LOST HER FIGHT WITH ALS ridgetatter: . Tine Vedder: oke AKTATTER: I HAVE AN ADDRESS IS ANYONE WANT TO SEND A SYMPATHY CARD Jenny: I came a few times in the spring. This is my first visit to this new site ridgetatter: Oh how terrible AKTATTER: %Tommy Strickland 5304 Buckhead Road Smoaks SC 29481 Tine Vedder: hi Tommy ridgetatter: Yes, Georgia please send me her address at my e=mial Paule: What is ALS AnneB: You'll find the dragon(s) here: http://www.nuperelle.net/drager/monstre/MinidragerEng.pdf AKTATTER: DEBBIE, HER MOM EMMA, AND HER DAUGHTER DENISE WERE FORTUNATE TO SPEND TIME TOGETHER AT THE LAST TAT DAYS AT PALMETTO. AKTATTER: THANKS ANNE Tine Vedder: please giv me the adres soultatter: the link you put for the lesson is nor right georgia Kate: I forget what ALS stands for, Paule, but I believe it is what we often call Lou Gehrig's disease. ridgetatter: I think the % Tommy line IS the address, tine... AKTATTER: WOW THAT IS AMAZING ANNE soultatter: thanks anneb, its beautiful your dragon Kate: OK, my line didn't come through whole. ridgetatter: The Dragon, and it isn't really a hard thing to tat and is fun with various colors AKTATTER: http://www.rr1.net/users/aktatter/2008/wheel.html Kate: I'll try again... I don't remember what ALS stands for, Paule, but I believe it is what we often call Lou Gehrig's disease. AnneB: Thanks. The snowdragon is outside at the momet, making more snow... AKTATTER: THAT'S RIGHT KATE Paule: Thanks AK ridgetatter: Better Snow than Fire AKTATTER: WELL, ANNE, I HOPE THAT YOU WILL CONSIDER DESIGNING A PATTERN FOR THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS. WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU COME AND GUET TEACH ANYTIME. soultatter: i wish i could tat as the expert tatters here!! Tine Vedder: m ridgetatter: so do I soultatter; but it takes practice and some have years....LOL Paule: Decades! ridgetatter: I began quite late in life ~ so .....I'll get where I get soultatter: yes you are right ridgetatter!! :) AKTATTER: WE ALL ALL LEARN SOMETHING FROM EVERY PATTERN ridgetatter: AMEN Tine Vedder: yes we do DorcasAnn from x.x.x.6 joined the chat 48 minutes ago AKTATTER: NOW YOU MIGHT THINK Tine Vedder: Hi Dorcas Ann AKTATTER: THAT WE KNOW ALL THAT THERE IS ABOUT THE COMMON TATTED WHEEL DorcasAnn: the dragons are really cute soultatter: yes , i learn from pattern, different tecniques... practice practice AKTATTER: WB DORCAS AKTATTER: ONE THING THAT HAS EVOLVED WITH THE WHEEL AKTATTER: IS JUST HOW IT STARTS Paule: No I don't! AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE FIRST PHOTO ON THE LEFT ON THE LESSON PAGE ridgetatter: k Tine Vedder: in the center AKTATTER: ME NEITHER PAULE LOL AKTATTER: THE SHAPE OF THE REGULAR TATTED RING AKTATTER: IS OVOID OR EGG SHAPED Tine Vedder: k ridgetatter: y AKTATTER: BUT THAT WOULD NOT SERVE FOR A ROUND DOILY AKTATTER: THE EARLY TATTERS MADE THE TATTED RING ROUND soultatter: ok ridgetatter: hummm AKTATTER: BY BREAKING A SET OF DS BETWEEN START AND LAST PICOT AKTATTER: EXAMPLE, 5 DS NEEDED Tine Vedder: m ridgetatter: y AKTATTER: SO BEGIN WITH JUST 3 DS AND CLOSE THE RING WITH 2 DS Paule: p AKTATTER: HOWEVER, THIS MEANT THAT THERE ARE TWO TAILS AKTATTER: TO BE HIDDEN IN ONE RING MJB: l AKTATTER: AND ONE THING TATTERS HATE AKTATTER: IS TAILS TO HIDE! Tine Vedder: Hi Beverly Paule: Yes! ridgetatter: hi soultatter: what yesss Jenny: certaibnly do soultatter: yes AKTATTER: SO ONE CLEVER TATTER DECIDED TO JUST TAT THE RING AS NEEDED ridgetatter: i don't mind sewing in tails but I'm strange AKTATTER: BUT SHORT ONE PICOT AKTATTER: BY TYING THE TWI THREADS TOGETHER AKTATTER: YOU COULD MAKE A FAKE PICOT ridgetatter: k AKTATTER: AND CLIMB INTO THE NEXT ROUND Tine Vedder: it is a mock picot the last one ? AKTATTER: ELIMINATING ONE SET OF RINGS TO HIDE AKTATTER: THE FAKE PICOT = FAUX PICOT = MOCK PICOT AKTATTER: YES TINE! ridgetatter: k AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK TO THE RIGHT Paule: p Tine Vedder: y AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE SUCH A RING WITH A MOCK PICOT MJB: k AKTATTER: AND IT MOVES INTO A SPLIT RING (NEEDLE-TATTED STYLE) AKTATTER: AND FROM THERE THE WHEEL WENT ROUND AND ROUND Tine Vedder: k AKTATTER: THE NEXT THREE PHOTOS ridgetatter: Is this page in one of your books Georgia? Paule: Can it be done with shuttles AKTATTER: SHOW ANTIQUE SAMPLES OF THE CLASSIC WHEEL Aanjel51 from x.x.x.152 joined the chat 42 minutes ago AKTATTER: YES IT IS IN BOOK 6 AND USEDIN MANY LESSON PAGES ridgetatter: ok ~ got it! Jenny: Why don't we have an ordinary split ring here? AKTATTER: WELCOME AANJEL! AKTATTER: YOU COULD HAVE A SHUTTLED TATTED SPLIT RING Tine Vedder: yes AKTATTER: EITHER ONE ridgetatter: y AKTATTER: IF YOU NOTE THE WHITE HANKY AT THE RIGHT Jenny: I think that's what I mean, a dead spiser split ring! AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE THAT THE WHEELS ARE IN ALL FOUR CORNERS Aanjel51: hi, glad to be here AKTATTER: EXACTLY RIGHT JENNY Tine Vedder: yes AKTATTER: AANJEL TELLS US WHERE YOU AR FROM AND IS THIS YOUR FIRST TIME? Paule: p MJB: k AKTATTER: NOW LOOK AT THE ECUR DOILY ONGREEN BACKGROUND soultatter: the one in the photo is like the texnique scmr? ring Aanjel51: I am in Lupton, Michigan and I was here last year. Tine Vedder: m AKTATTER: SEE THE DOULBE ROW OF RINGS WHICH ATTACH TO THE CENTER CLOTH? AKTATTER: GLAD YOU FOUND US AGAIN ridgetatter: yes, hi Aanjel Aanjel51: me too. I was getting desperate to find you AKTATTER: RIGHT CLAUDIA AKTATTER: LOL WELL WE CAN'T HAVE THAT! AKTATTER: AANJEL WE ARE STUDYING THE CLASSIC TATTED WHEEL AKTATTER: http://www.rr1.net/users/aktatter/2008/wheel.html ridgetatter: desparate tatters in lieu of housewives Aanjel51: remember I retired last spring and moved ridgetatter: LOL Tine Vedder: m Aanjel51: sounds like a good name to me. AKTATTER: MANY OLDER PATTERNS ADDED ROWS OF DOUBLE RINGS AROUND THE WHEEL TO EITHER ATTACH TO CL;OTH OR OTHER TATTED ELEMENTS ridgetatter: k Tine Vedder: m AKTATTER: OR TO BUILD WIDTH ACROSS A DOILY AKTATTER: WE OUGHT TO HAVE OUR OWN TV SERIES, DESPARATE TATTERS IS RIGHT! AKTATTER: ANOTHER WAY TO BUILD LARGER PIECES FROM THE WHEEL AKTATTER: IS SHOWN IN THE COLLAGE OF DOILIES MJB: that would be interesting AKTATTER: THE LARGE CORNER HANKY IN ALL WHITE Tine Vedder: verry AKTATTER: THERE THE WHEELS JOIN TO EACH OTHER soultatter: - AKTATTER: AND THE SPACES IN BETWEEN ARE FILLED WITH AKTATTER: A FOUR RING MOTIF Kate: (Will be lurking now. Have to feed the baby!) :) MJB: k AKTATTER: OK! soultatter: k ridgetatter: k Aanjel51: we will feel you watching us Tine Vedder: k Kate: :) AKTATTER: NOW THE CLASSIC WHEEL PRESENTS TWO OTHER CHALLENGES AKTATTER: USUALLY DONE WITH ONE SHUTTLE THREAD Paule: p soultatter: ye- Tine Vedder: m Kate: (She's 10 days old and beautiful! Like having a baby doll.) AKTATTER: THERE IS THAT TAIL TO DEAL WITH AKTATTER: AH WHAT A SWEETIE Tine Vedder: so sweet ridgetatter: ohhhh' Aanjel51: how wonderful AnneB: Bet she is the sweetest :-) MJB: contrats AKTATTER: THIS TAIL IS MAY BE USED TO MAKE THAT SPLIT RING AKTATTER: CLIMB INTO THE NEXT ROUND AKTATTER: BUT WHAT IF THE WHEEL HAS 2 OR 3 ROUNDS ON IT? Tine Vedder: a split ring cannot with one shuttle Paule: Tne next round is 6-6? AKTATTER: EITHER LEAVE A VERY LONG TAIL OR USE TWO SHUTTLES Aanjel51: yes you can do a split ring with one ridgetatter: when you do that, do you begin at the outside of the next 'wheel"? AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE THE LONG TAIL YOU CAN PRETEND IT IS A SHUTTLE AKTATTER: AND MAKE THE SPLIT RING Aanjel51: I have seen the directions on someone site AKTATTER: AND YOU CAN CARRY THE LONG TAIL FORWARD AKTATTER: INTO THE NEXT ROUNDS ALSO MJB: k Aanjel51: check out http://www.paradisetreasures.com Mathew Takeda has directions. ridgetatter: thanks Tine Vedder: is it al long threat that you use only for the splitring every times Tine Vedder: ? AKTATTER: AND LOOK AT http://www.rr1.net/users/aktatter/2002/sssr/rietsssr.html soultatter: - AKTATTER: right tine Tine Vedder: ok Aanjel51: thanks I will check out that site also AKTATTER: now what about beading the wheel ridgetatter: . AKTATTER: placing the beads ON THE PICOTS IS JUST LIKE NORMAL AKTATTER: TINE SEE THE LAST LAST DIAGRAM ON THE PAGE? Jenny: What's normal/ there are so may ways people use to do this soultatter: georgia,theres a problem with the images in the link, AKTATTER: THE LINES THAT GO FROM THE CENTER RINGS Tine Vedder: ok AKTATTER: OTHE OUTER RINGS? AKTATTER: ON LINE IS THE LONG TAIL Aanjel51: it took me overnight to see the images. AKTATTER: AND ONE LINE IS THE SHUTTLE THREAD AKTATTER: YES CLAUDIA Tine Vedder: ok AKTATTER: YOU MUST REPLACE www.georgiaseitz.com AKTATTER: with www.rr1.net/users/aktatter soultatter: i change the url but doesnt work, the same happen in the link of the alligator Paule: You just lost me G. AKTATTER: to see each photo until the website is fixed sorry for the trouble AKTATTER: THE DIAGRAM PAULE soultatter: no matter, well wait Paule: About one line this and one line that... AKTATTER: SEE THE TWO RED 6 NEXT TO ONE RING Paule: yes Aanjel51: yes AKTATTER: ON LINE GOES OUT TO THE BIG SINGLE RING AKTATTER: THAT IS THE LONG TAIL AKTATTER: THE RING TO THE RIGHT Tine Vedder: m AKTATTER: WOULD BE THE LAST RING MADE AKTATTER: AND THE LINE OUTWARD AKTATTER: IS THE SHUTTLE THREAD MJB: k AKTATTER: BRING THOSE TWO THREADS TOGETHER ridgetatter: k AKTATTER: TO MAKE A SPLIT RING Tine Vedder: ok AKTATTER: OK BEADS ON THE PICOT ARE EADY AKTATTER: WIND UP WITH THE SHUTTLE AKTATTER: OR JOIN AS THE RING IS TATTED LIKE tERRY MCGUFFIN DOES soultatter: ok AKTATTER: BUT TO GET BEADS OVER THE PICOTS AKTATTER: ON THE CENTER RING AKTATTER: AS IN THE SUNFLOWER ON THE LEFT AKTATTER: YELLOW WHEEL ON THE RIGHT JaneEb from x.x.x.127 left this message 26 minutes ago: Sorry I'm late - I forgot!!!! Tine Vedder: k ridgetatter: , ridgetatter: Hey janey Tine Vedder: HI Jane AKTATTER: THE LAST PICOT IS A MOCK PICOT Aanjel51: Hi Jane AKTATTER: WLCOME JANE! Paule: Allo Jane JaneEb from x.x.x.127 joined the chat 25 minutes ago MJB: hello Jane soultatter: hi jane Jenny: Hi Jane, I made it here with your advice AKTATTER: THE BEAD NEEDS TO HAVE BEEN PLACED ON THE SHUTTLE THREAD PRIOR TO WINDING DorcasAnn: Hi, Jane JaneEb: Hi everybody - been a BAD day!!! AKTATTER: MOVE THE BEAD INTO POSITION Aanjel51: oh no....Jane MJB: sorry Jane AKTATTER: THEN PLACE THE LONG TAIL ON A BLUNT TAPESTRY NEEDLE ridgetatter: LOL yes you have J AKTATTER: OH BUMMER JANE, RELAX A BIT WITH US! ridgetatter: that's what I'm doin' AKTATTER: THEN TAKE THE NEEDLW UP THRU THE BEAD! AKTATTER: COMPLETE THE MOCK PICOT Tine Vedder: m AKTATTER: IT LOOKS JUST AS IF YOU HAD PLACED A BEAD OVER A REAL PICOT WHEN MAKING A JOIN JaneEb: I'm playing with beads myself at the moment! Tine Vedder: ok ridgetatter: me too AKTATTER: EVERYONE GOT THAT OK? AKTATTER: IT IS A N EAT LITTLE TRICK ridgetatter: mostly Tine Vedder: yes ridgetatter: I'll review soultatter: yes Jenny: yes thank you it was really clear AKTATTER: THE LAST THREE PHOTOS Paule: Will there be a log? AnneB: think so AKTATTER: SMALL WHEELS JOINED IN TO A BABY CAP Tine Vedder: yes AKTATTER: A DIAGRAM SHOWING THE SET OF WHEELS TATTED WITH CUTTING THE THREAD AKTATTER: USING THE SPLIT RING AND SINGLE SHUTTLE SPLIT RING AKTATTER: BUT WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT LAST PIECE OF LACE? AKTATTER: TRIANGLES? Paule: Where can we get that diagram bigger? Aanjel51: I think they are unique AKTATTER: CLICK ON THE PHOTO PAULE Paule: ok AKTATTER: OR EMAIL ME LATER soultatter: wow, triangles! Paule: ok AKTATTER: HOW DID THAY MAKE THAT TRIANGLE? ridgetatter: . Tine Vedder: can I use a scmr for a one shuttle splitring AKTATTER: IT IS ACTUALLY A CLASSIC WHEEL Tine Vedder: ? ridgetatter: ? Paule: ? Aanjel51: ? AKTATTER: IT DEPENDS ON WHICH DIRECTION YOU NEED TO HAVE THE SHUTTLES EXIT TINE Tine Vedder: ok AKTATTER: IT IS A ROUND WHEEL BUT AS THEY TATTED AKTATTER: TWO LARGE RINGS ON THE OUTSIDE AKTATTER: THEN A CLOVERLEAF AKTATTER: THEN BACK TO THE PATTERN AKTATTER: TREE CLOVERLEAFS Tine Vedder: y AKTATTER: SEPARATED BY TWO REGULAR RINGS Aanjel51: k Paule: good idea that! ridgetatter: , soultatter: - AKTATTER: i THINK THAT THERE ARE 9 PICOTS ON THE CENTER RING AKTATTER: THUS NINE SMALL RINGS Tine Vedder: k AKTATTER: I NEED A MAGNIFIYING GLASS! AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THE CLASSIC WHEEL OR HOW TO BEAD THE MOCK PICOT? Paule: Yes Aanjel51: not right now Tine Vedder: no MJB: no Jenny: no AKTATTER: YES PAULE? Paule: First do the big center ring 12 picots soultatter: no at the moment, Paule: climb out with mockp AKTATTER: YES Paule: then split rings all around AKTATTER: NO Paule: with one shuttle Paule: no? AKTATTER: CENTER RING, MOCK PICOT, SPLIT RING AKTATTER: THEN RETURN TO REGULAR RINGS TO GO AROUND THE CENTER RING Paule: then? Paule: AH! Aanjel51: I am currently working on a medallion that looks like a wheel. AKTATTER: OK? Paule: then AKTATTER: THAT IS GREAT NEWS AAJEL BECAUSE WE HAVE A HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT THIS WEEK Aanjel51: oh no!! AKTATTER: LOL Paule: yes yes AKTATTER: YOUR MISSION ridgetatter: lol Tine Vedder: m AKTATTER: PLEASE LOCATE AN ANTIQUE PATTERN THAT USES THE CLASSIC WHEEL ridgetatter: should we wish to accept. . . AKTATTER: OR AKTATTER: PLEASE CREAT A PATTERN USING A THE WHEEL AS THE CENTER Paule: just do the wheel is enough for me AKTATTER: OR ALTER THE ROUND WHEEL INTO A SQUARE ridgetatter: oh sure create hardy harrr well come of you can AnneB: Hoe old is antique? Aanjel51: so many choices, what will be do??? ridgetatter: some of you can AKTATTER: THERE ARE THREE DIFFERENT THINGS YOU COULD WORK ON BUT YOUR CHOICE IS OK ridgetatter: I'm 72 I'm an antique soultatter: into a square, such a challenge for me! AKTATTER: INPUBLIC DOMAIN ANNE OR POSTED FOR PUBLIC USE LIKE OUR LESSONS ARE POSTED ridgetatter: just FINDING a wheel is enough for me AKTATTER: LOL NOW BEV JaneEb: But you're a valuable antique, Bev ridgetatter: hehehehe AnneB: Not an old magazine from the 50s or thereabout? Tine Vedder: you are not antique AKTATTER: OK LAST CALLFOR QUESTIONS Jenny: I'll try, but I've got a very busy week. Aanjel51: I have several books and magazine that have them ridgetatter: I'm cool lectable AKTATTER: ALL OK PAULE? AKTATTER: ARE THERE ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? Jenny: Have to go to Cardiff and be an active grandma for three days ridgetatter: no questions but Annie Orr book? Hees? Paule: I'm not sure but I wiil come to the class and listen some more... AKTATTER: WHAT ABOUT YOU JANE ARE YOU WORKING WITH BEADS TODAY? Tine Vedder: soo AKTATTER: BOTH GOOD POSSIBILITIES BEV ridgetatter: ok Jenny: Can we hear about jane's bad day before we go? AKTATTER: TAKE YOUR SHUTTLES JENNY YOU CAN LET THE BABY SHEW ON THE PLASTIC ONES ridgetatter: You don't really want to know LOL poor Jane AKTATTER: YES I AM ALL EARS AnneB: Hm, triangles, squares, pentagons, hexagons... JaneEb: My bad day started on Friday with 'dad' problems!! ridgetatter: i'm SOOOOO sympahetic Paule: witchcraft AKTATTER: AHHHH I HEAR THE WHEELS TURNING IN ANNE'S HEAD... Paule: dragon s AKTATTER: ah is he getting worse? ridgetatter: he is a curmudgeon that Pa Tine Vedder: h JaneEb: Then today it was him, plus shopping probs including dropping the car keys in a store. Jenny: You and I have been here before jane MJB: k AKTATTER: did you find them? ridgetatter: Jane and I are exchanging the toxic people in our lives JaneEb: Followed by tenants and the probs with them!! They are the sweetest couple but couldn't afford to pay this month's rent. So this has lead to all sorts!! The girl was/is distraut. They'll pay in the end but it's more of being a mother to them than a landlady!! AKTATTER: ah dear ridgetatter: sigh Tine Vedder: o dear AKTATTER: btw this lesson repeats at 8:30PM ET (New York time) tonight JaneEb: Dad? He's got a bad neck and says he's going blind in one eye and has a cataract in the other. He can see the cataract!!!!!! Won't go to the doctor or the opticians. He's 96 in January!!! Tine Vedder: then I hope to be sleeping AKTATTER: that is so stressful Jenny: I think you should now sit down and relax with a stiff gin and tonic, but maybe that's not for you JaneEb: Best thing of all - I have a sense of humour and laugh at it!!!! Weeellllll, mostly!! Paule: Not sure I'll get to 96 ridgetatter: yes, it's a lot of stress soultatter: ok, thanks for the class georgia and girls! AKTATTER: ok tine glad you could come now instead Aanjel51: me either, it is such a long time away ridgetatter: I don't want to get to 96 ridgetatter: Thanks for the class Teach JaneEb: Car keys were handed in to the cash desk - phewwwww Tine Vedder: ok AKTATTER: thanks for stopping by claudia Paule: There still honest people AKTATTER: lucky for you ridgetatter: Big Cleansing Breath...Jane Aanjel51: I love this new format soultatter: Ill send you an email georgia, after the class Tine Vedder: I hope to get 97 Paule: Ilove yhis class too AKTATTER: me too aanjel it is so easy to use AKTATTER: ok claudia ridgetatter: Bye All back to tatting Paule: Will there be a log AK? MJB: thanks Georgia Aanjel51: can we send you pics of classic wheels? AKTATTER: several in my family have lived to 100 Jenny: bye everybody AKTATTER: yes Paule posted after class but AKTATTER: if you click on save/print on the left side ridgetatter: boy, I'm not interested unless I could still walk and think AKTATTER: then choose all text Tine Vedder: in my family the are at 90-97 en so Paule: Bye everyone; have to go wind my shuttle AKTATTER: you cansave or print out the log also AKTATTER: yes please do send photos aanjel ridgetatter: Mine usually die by 57 so I'm over due Mom was 77 Paule: wow Tine Vedder: by Paule Aanjel51: k AKTATTER: me too, bev otherwise just find a passing icefloe for me soultatter: bye georgia, bye all.... AKTATTER: also if you type /leave AKTATTER: it shows you left the classroom Tine Vedder: By Georgia and thanks Tine Vedder: by all AKTATTER: or click command and then /leave AKTATTER: by tine say hi to marco Tine Vedder: yes I do DorcasAnn: good bye everyone AKTATTER: by claudia Jenny from x.x.x.201 left the chat 3 minutes ago AnneB: Bye all, I'm off to bed soon - after thinking some more on triangles and suares... Aanjel51: bye Anne, AnneB from x.x.x.102 left the chat 2 minutes ago AKTATTER: bye dorcas AKTATTER: OK ALL THANKS FOR STOPPING BYE TODAY marco from x.x.x.240 joined the chat 2 minutes ago Aanjel51: I am leaving ot copy pics marco: hello everione Aanjel51 from x.x.x.152 left the chat 2 minutes ago AKTATTER: AND I HOPE YOUR TOMORROW IS BETTER JANE :) AKTATTER: HELLO MARCO marco: tine are you still stheren AKTATTER: WE ARE JUST SAYING GOOD BY AKTATTER: TINE LEFT marco: hello aktatter marco: shame marco: mij msn is out of order marco: so i cannot talk to here AKTATTER: MINE TOO I GAVE UP ON IT AKTATTER: OK THEN GOOD BYE ALL AND HAPPY TATTING UNTIL NEXT TIME JaneEb: Thanks, Georgia - can't be any worse I hope!! marco: that a pitty i love msn marco: and skype also AKTATTER from x.x.x.78 left the chat 50 seconds ago marco: oke untill next time marco: bye all ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Nov 18 02:34:38 2008 GMT (328 KB) Page 7 of 7 - Char 307258 to 336105 - Newest entries at the bottom The Online Tatting Class http://www.chatzy.com/695768390662 Transcript as of Tue Nov 18 02:34:38 2008 GMT (328 KB) Page 7 of 7 - Char 307258 to 336105 - Newest entries at the bottom ============================================================ AKTATTER: B ANITA AKTATTER: SO THE EARLY TATTERS MADE THE RING ROUND AKTATTER: BY BREAKING THE SET OF DS AKTATTER: MINE DON'T MARY AKTATTER: EXIT AND COME BACK icela: mine is AKTATTER: SO A SET OF 5 MIGHT BE TATTER AT THE START WITH 3 AKTATTER: END WITH 2DS AnitaR: windows had an issue AKTATTER: BUT THAT LEFT TWO TAILS TO HIDE AKTATTER: AND OF COURSE AKTATTER: TATTERS HATE TO HIDE TAILS! AKTATTER: SO SOME CLEVER TATTER AKTATTER: TATTED THE RING WITH FULL SETS OF DS AKTATTER: BUT SHORT ONE PICOT AKTATTER: THEN TYING THE THREADS TOGETHER AKTATTER: THEY MADE THE FIRST MOCK PICOT stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: AND WERE ABLE TO CLIMB OUT INTO THE NEXT ROUND icela from x.x.x.199 joined the chat 32 minutes ago AKTATTER: ELIMINATING TWO TAILS RuthPerry: k AKTATTER: BETTER NOW MARY? icela: so far JeanneZ: k Paule: p Cynthia: do you need to tie or can you just go on to the next element leaving a bit of space? AKTATTER: NOW YOU CAN MEASURE THE TWO THREADS OUT AND MAKE A LOCK STITHCH IF YOU ARE CLIMBINH INTO A SPLIT CHAINN AKTATTER: OR NOT TIE AT ALL FOR A SPLIT RING AKTATTER: IF YOUR WORK IS VERY TIGHT AKTATTER: YOU MAY NOT HAVE TO ANCHOR THAT MOCK PICOT AT ALL AKTATTER: BUT THE MOCK PICOT CAN DISAPPEAR Cynthia: so the tie is just to anchor the mock picot AKTATTER: WHEN YOU WORK A CHAIN AND SHAPE IT TOO MUCH AKTATTER: TEH NEXT PHOTO AKTATTER: A ROUND RING, MOCK PICOT AND A NEEDLE TATTED SPLIT RING RuthPerry: BRB AKTATTER: OK AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: IF YOU KEEP THE FIRST TAIL LONG JeanneZ: k AKTATTER: YOU CAN CARRY OVER TO USE FOR THAT FIRST SPLIT RING/CHAINS Paule: G I mistook that for an SCMR! AKTATTER: AND USE IT TO CLIMB INTO THE OUTER RINGS AS WELL Cynthia: so did I stitchingsharon: Lookrd likr SCMR to mre too AKTATTER: WELL NEEDLE TATTED RINGS ARE SELF-CLOSING MOCK RINGS AKTATTER: BUT IT COULD HAVE BEEN A SHUTTLE TATTED ONE JUST AS EASILY Paule: I just learned something new! Hope Green: k stitchingsharon: Looked like a SCMR to me too AKTATTER: :) Cynthia: that would be a good lesson--or part of a lesson AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE NEXT PHOTO AKTATTER: GOOD IDEA CYNTHIA AKTATTER: WE TALKED ABOUT IT MORE WHEN WE DID THE MIGNONETTER LESSON ALSO AKTATTER: THAT WHITE HANKY HAS WHEELS IN ALL FOUR CORNERS Marie Smith: I would even stand on my head to keep from cutting and starting again AKTATTER: AND LOOK AT THE EDGING INBETWEEN AKTATTER: THE CLASSIC WHEEL HAS OFTEN BEEN PAIRED AKTATTER: WITH ROWS OF OPPOSING RINGS AKTATTER: ME TOO MARIE AKTATTER: THE NEXTG PHOTOS IS A COLLAGE OF HANKY CORNERS AKTATTER: THE WHEELS JOIN TO EACH OTHER AKTATTER: AND THE SPACES ARE FILLED IN BETWEEN AKTATTER: ITH A FOUR RING MOTIF AKTATTER: IT LOOKS LIKE A VARY STANDARD PRACTICE Paule: Who would dare blow their noses in such hankys AKTATTER: NOTE THE ECRU DOILY ONTHE GREEN BACKGROUND Jon: Colours make so much difference Marie Smith: I sent the scan Georgia just now AKTATTER: THERE IS A DOULBE ROW OF RINGS ATTACHING TO THE CLOTH AND THEN TO THE WHEELS AKTATTER: THANKS MARIE Hope Green: k AKTATTER: SO TRUE PAULE, I THINK THEY MUST HAVE BEEN FOR SHOW RuthPerry: k Marie Smith: I like the doily the best! AKTATTER: IF YOU LOOK AT THE DIAGRAM BELOW AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE HOW THE SHUTTLE THREAD JeanneZ: k AKTATTER: EXITS ONE RING AKTATTER: AND THE LONG TAIL THREAD AKTATTER: EXITS ONE RING RuthPerry: Or maybe for getting the attention of a young man by conveniently dropping the hanky. LOL AKTATTER: AND BOTH ARE BROUGHT TOGETHER TO MAKE THE LARGE RING AKTATTER: IN THE OUTER SIDE AKTATTER: OH LA LA AKTATTER: NOW BEADS CAN MAKE ANY PLAIN WHEEL SPECIAL AKTATTER: SEE THE EASTER EGG AND THE SUNFLOWER AKTATTER: BEADS ON THE PICOTS ARE NORMAL AKTATTER: WIND THEM UP WITH THE THREAD AKTATTER: PLACE THEM ON THE PICOTS AS THEY ARE MADE A LA TERRY MCGUFFIN AKTATTER: BUT IF THE BEAD IS GOING "OVER" AKTATTER: THE PICOT AKTATTER: PRESENTS A CHALLENGE AKTATTER: THE MOCK PICOT MUST BE BEADED TO MATCH AKTATTER: PLACE THE BEAD WHICH WOULD HAVE GONE OVER THE PICOT AKTATTER: ON THE SHUTTLE THREAD AKTATTER: WHEN THE TIME COMES FOR THE MOCK PICOT AKTATTER: SLIDE THE BEAD DOWN THE SHUTTLE THREAD INTO POSITION Marie Smith: Wow beads and varigated thread make quite a difference AKTATTER: PUT THE LONG TAIL ON A BLUNT TAPESTRY NEELDE AKTATTER: NEEDLE AKTATTER: RUN THE NEEDLE UP THRU THE BEAD TOWARE TH SHUTTLE AKTATTER: VOILA BEADED PICOT AKTATTER: COLOR ALWAYS MAKES A STATEMENT stitchingsharon: k AKTATTER: EVERYONE GOT THAT TIP DOWN NOW? RuthPerry: k AKTATTER: THE LAST THREE PHOTOS stitchingsharon: yes Paule: yes AKTATTER: TEH FIRST ONE SHOWS THE TRADITIONAL USE OF THE WHEEL AKTATTER: ALL JOINED TOGETHER FOR A BABY CAP Cynthia: yes but I plan to print the log so I make sure I didn't miss something Hope Green: k AnitaR: sounds so simple (sigh) AKTATTER: EACH JOINED MADE JOINED AS IT GOES AND CUT ANDTIED AKTATTER: OH HORRORS! AKTATTER: GOO DIDEA CYNTHIA THE LOG WILL ALSO BE POSTED AFTER CLASS Cynthia: how about split rings AKTATTER: THE LAST DIAGRAM SHOWS AN OLDER LESSON Cynthia: to climb out AKTATTER: WHERE WE CHARTED A PATH JeanneZ: k AKTATTER: SHOWING THE WHEEL COULD BE DONE WITHOUT C&T AKTATTER: RIGHT CYNTHIA Paule: That is the way I am doing it ok? AKTATTER: SPLIT RINGS AND SINGLE SHUTTLE SPLIT RINGS MOCK PICOTS AKTATTER: OK WITH ME PAULE AKTATTER: ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE IF YOU THINK IT THROUGH AKTATTER: SO HERE IS A BRAIN TEASER AKTATTER: LAST PHOTO stitchingsharon: the less tails to weave the happier I am AKTATTER: SHOWS AN EDGING AKTATTER: SEE THE DOUBLE RING ROWS AGAIN? AKTATTER: BUT OUR CLASSIC WHEEL AKTATTER: HAS BECOME A TRIANGLE AKTATTER: HOW DID THEY DO THAT? AKTATTER: ME TO SHARON katie verna/occhitat: k Mimi from x.x.x.200 joined the chat 16 minutes ago Jon: Clovers at the corners of the triangle? Hope Green: changing the ratio of inner & outter rings AKTATTER: RIGHT JON AKTATTER: WHERE A SINGLE RING SHOULD HAVE BEEN AKTATTER: THEY TATTED A CLOVELEAF AKTATTER: CLOVERLEAF AKTATTER: NEAT TRICK! AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS?? stitchingsharon: clever AKTATTER: THERE IS A HOMEWORK ASSIGNMENT FOR NEXT WEEK Cynthia: to make the point...used a cloverleaf...clever AKTATTER: YOUR MISSION AKTATTER: LOL RIGHT CYN AKTATTER: IS 1 OF 3 CHOICES AKTATTER: 1. LOCATE THE CLASSIC WHEEL USED IN AN ANTIQUE PATTERN AKTATTER: HOPEFULLY AN OLD PATTERN ONLINE TAHT WE CAN SHARE AKTATTER: OR AKTATTER: 2. USE THE TATTED WHEEL IN A DESIGN OF YOUR OWN AKTATTER: OR RuthPerry: OK, I'm done. <G> AKTATTER: 3. CHANGE THE TATTED WHEEL INTO A SQUARE AKTATTER: OK RUTH! AKTATTER: IS EVERYONE GAME TO HELP OUT? AnitaR: :) this will be fun ;))) AKTATTER: I HOPE SO JeanneZ: wouldn't a tatted square wheel just be 4 clovers stitchingsharon: yes Cynthia: sounds fun AKTATTER: BUT LET ME TELL YOU THAT THE FIRST ONE TO SEND IN A PHOTO OF AN ANTIQQUE WHEEL Marie Smith: yeah!!! icela: alright so we are to make a wheel into a sq. AKTATTER: GOT IT WRONG AKTATTER: HINT AKTATTER: TEH CLASSIC WHEEL IS ALL RINGS AKTATTER: IT COULD BE JEANNE AKTATTER: RIGHT TURN THE ROUND WHEEL INTO A SQUARE MOTIF AKTATTER: SUPRE!! Hope Green: with a looooong tail for split rings AKTATTER: ALRIGHT THEM ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? stitchingsharon: so if there are chains, it's not a classic wheel? AKTATTER: GOOD "POINT" HOPIW AKTATTER: HOPIE Hope Green: lol AKTATTER: RIGHT SHARON WHEEL HS NO CHAINS icela: ok everything started doubling so what are we doing now. katie verna/occhitat: a fine set of challenges, Miss Georgia, fine teacher that you are!! Let's see what happens. AKTATTER: I THINK MAYBE YOU'VE BEEN SHARING THAT BOTTLE OF WINE WITH MY DH AKTATTER: LOL IT JUST IS AGLITCH I DON'T SEE IT AKTATTER: THANKS KATIE icela: ok god same message 15 x AKTATTER: I CAN'T WAIT TO SEE WHAT TURNS UP AKTATTER: ANY PATTERNS TO SHARE TO NIGHT? RuthPerry: Mr Phelps, this tatting lesson will self destruct in 15 seconds. Your mission, should you choose to acept it is... BOOM! Oops, that was 10 seconds. AKTATTER: ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS? Hope Green: hugs... & nighters all... so good to be here with everyone icela: ok i will start digging tonight Cynthia: mine is fine but once in awhile then I get doubles...I think it is my server getting the hiccups AKTATTER: WHEN IS THE BEGINNERS CLASS CYN? AKTATTER: NIGHT HOPE icela: announce ment I am pregnant again katie verna/occhitat: nite, Hopie! AKTATTER: WALLY IS RETURNING TO EYGPT THIS WEEK Cynthia: Thursday evening AKTATTER: BUT THE SPANISH CLASS WILL CONTINUE Hope Green: roflol... katie verna/occhitat: Congrats, Icela! AnitaR: Congratulations!! Cynthia: 9 eastern... Marie Smith: Bye Hope icela: thank you Katie...ROFLOL Mimi: Next beginners class is this Thursday 11/20 AKTATTER: MARY MARY WHAT HAVE YOU BEEN DOING? Cynthia: congrats Icela AKTATTER: OH YOU MUST MEAN A GRANDCHILD lol AKTATTER: THANKS MIMI AnitaR: Cynthia... is it too late for my dd to join? icela: no more of them I have 9 Mimi: Topic is split rings - Cynthia I fixed the links http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/lesson4.html Hope Green: thank you AK- couldn't get my mind around that Mimi: found split ring flower in wayback after all!! icela: fooled you all AnitaR: 9!!!! AKTATTER: WELCOME MIMI I DIDN'T SEE YOU SLIP IN Cynthia: no Anita it isn't...can she do a ds already? Mimi: stealth atter that's me Jon: LOL, Mary! AKTATTER: THAT WAY BACK MACHINE IS REALLY HELPFUL AnitaR: you are so bad LOL My kids do that to me all the time icela: funny aren't i AnitaR: Cynthia.... not yet but still trying RuthPerry: I was trying to figure out that announcement. Sure fooled me! Good one, Mary. Jon: I have a thread question icela: Lol Anita katie verna/occhitat: real funny, girl! Cynthia: good Mimi what would we do without cartoon machines to help us in the real world icela: LOL AKTATTER: CATHY ARE YO USTILL HERE? icela: 65 having a baby, not in this lifetime TeresaW: I'd shut myself if I was preggers ... course, you have to be exposed and DH's travel prevents that. Cynthia: Can you help her, Anita? TeresaW: shoot myself that is. JeanneZ: k AnitaR: Working on it icela: I would shoot myself also Sherong: Wwhat's the question Jon? Jon: Someone asked me about tatting lace for a wedding gown. What size thread would be suitable? Cynthia: It might be easier if she started in January but anytime a new tatter wants to learn is a good time AKTATTER: THERE WAS A LADY IN SOUTH AMERICA THAT HAD 20 KIDS LAST ONE AT 65 AKTATTER: OH WEDDING GOWN AnitaR: I was thiking that too but she wanted me to ask RuthPerry: When my youngest was born my roomie was 65 and didn't know she was pregnant the day before delivering a healthy baby girl Sherong: Think Mark is using size 80, check his blog AKTATTER: THERE IS A PHOTO OF A TATTED ALL OF IT TATTED WEDDING GOWN icela: that is crazy, my sil's aunt had 17 kids AKTATTER: IN THE ROT JOURNAL Cynthia: I could help her and get her going outside class if that would help RuthPerry: Thought she was too old, and just getting fat. Had terrible abdominal pains at the grocery store, and called an ambulance. Sherong: It depends on the look you want though Jon: She hasn't made up her mind about the design for the gown. I'll check there Gerogia, Thanks icela: funny ruth Cynthia: Sometimes it is easier if a non family teaches a new skill AnitaR: gee Georgia... that would take me a life time to do.... a whole gown! TeresaW: Thanks for the lesson, Georgia. Great one as ever. Gotta do some work for tomorrow. TeresaW: Night all! Sherong: Nite Teresa Cynthia: bye Teresa katie verna/occhitat: Nitey nite, Teresa. AnitaR: lol I have tried so many times with her RuthPerry: Nite all icela: nite all off to make some greeting cards. Jon: Nite Teresa katie verna/occhitat: Nite, Ruth!!! Marie Smith: Nite Teresa AnitaR: nite Ruth! Marie Smith: Nite Ruth AnitaR: nite Teresa! Cynthia: have her e-mail me. Maybe we can get her tatting before Christmas AKTATTER: Paule, "La frivolité à l'aiguille pas à pas" no. 4 by Lucette Evain-Lacan" cette libre avez-vous? Cynthia: Nite Ruth Jon: I'm going off too. Bye all AnitaR: hubby home so better go now too.... lots to think about (home work to do you know)) katie verna/occhitat: Bye, Jon! AKTATTER: nighter ruth and jon and teresa Marie Smith: Bye Jon stitchingsharon: goodnight all Paule: Mimi can I comme and watch at the beginners? I want experience to teach newbies for our group? Anna: Good night all Marie Smith: Nite Sharon AnitaR: bye Mimi: Please come Paule Cynthia: yes you are welcome Paule Mimi: Any time, all welcome. It Mimi: IT's in this room 9pm Thursday Jon from x.x.x.224 left the chat 2 minutes ago AKTATTER: and the newbies are welcome to come sit in with us too Paule: But the lessons are on angel fire? Mimi: http://www.angelfire.com/planet/newtatters/ is the link to all Cynthia: I've suggested it but I think it might scare them--as they think rings and chains can be a challenge Mimi: We're on lesson 4 this week - split rings Cynthia: Also newshuttlesandneedles a good spot for beginners--yahoo group katie verna/occhitat: That's awesome, Mimi! Paule: No I don't have that book G but I have seen it... I don't remember where AKTATTER: ok thanks Paule AKTATTER: well then thanks again all for stopping bye AKTATTER: good night and happy tatting until next time Marie Smith: Nite all! Cynthia: Peace and Thanks Georgia AKTATTER from x.x.x.36 left the chat 46 seconds ago katie verna/occhitat: Thank you, Georgia, for keeping us all going katie verna/occhitat: Nite, all. Need to tat a wheel! Sherong: I'll say nite also katie verna/occhitat from x.x.x.135 left the chat 4 seconds ago ============================================================ Created at Chatzy.com