Session Start: Mon Apr 21 14:03:39 2008 *** Now talking in #tatchat 12Decided I'd pull the same stunt if/when I ever .... hello all I think Stephanie should be one the stage 05Hi Georgia hello Georgia 12but nothing ever happened, so I'm using it myself. Hi Georgia 06Hi Steph and Georgia 12hi Goergia Guest! welcome please change your name she will get us into the naughty corner again! 12Hi Ruth just type /nick your name 06Hello Georgia! 12Even though I've heard the story before, I still love the retelling! 12when did you say the new book is coming out, Ruth? Hi Georgia *** Tatter664 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter664 is now known as Bob Hi Bob 12Hey Georgia! 05Hi Bob When it's finished... probably in the fall ok who'se been naughty?? 12brb - timer....my tea is ready. Hullo Everyone 12naughty? What did we do now? naughty? 06everyone is nice... Sarah hasn't finished her part yet, and I need a couple of months after I have everything from her. I'm not splitting on anybody am I Stephanie 06tatters are nice by deffinition Well I read Linda was worried about getting sent to the naughty corner 12I'm moving to a sunnier room... lol Tatter please change your name just type /nick your name I'm going to be the class tattle tale Oh Ruth 06She has tried and cannot get it to work Someone used caps... oh oh! 03I'm back, hello all! 12i'm back...got a whole pot of tea and if you're nice I'll share.... 05hello back well done Stephanie 12That's dangerous Ruth. You know when you do something naughty... and you know you will.. ok capitals are reserved from AKTATTER's or the guest teacher's official lesson info 03OK, i understand 03Hello Georgia! Guest, Tatter, to type a message just go to the skinny window below this text and type there /nick yourname shall we sigh in AK? 12naughty corner is a little crowded right now.... MariedlC is this the new member from France?? Bienvenue! as usual Stephanie 03I never chat, but it's fun, here 12but we'll make room if you bring cookies 3 more minutes of open chat Linda 03Yes it is! I have tried to chang my name but it still won't let me Try the little box in the bottom right corner. it's good to talk 03W>hy is my room filled with cookiees???? 12Tatter try typing your name in the put your name in and hit return where your just typed tatter, on a new line type only: /nick yourname 12white space in the bottom right corner 12under the words "change nick to" *** Tatter is now known as heather 05than klick on enter ahhh done 12cool! Hi Heather Yo Heather 06Hi heather 03Hi heather 05Hi Heather 06Hi Heather! 12hehehe...oh yeah, i forgot the part about "enter" didn't I Tine? 12;-) Hooray! Heather, you got it! Hi Heather! silly winkerbilly 05is good steph I kept clicking on the change nick to at the right 12Ruth I showed soemone your BDS and told them you have anew book coming out soon 12and she is ALL excited about it! 12(BOth things...the book and the BDS) Cool Yes Ruth the BDS is Brilliant!!! Useful... very useful! I like it very much 06I'm still challenged by the BDS Mine don't come out quite right but I know with time I'll get it 12i do, too. cookies? cookies? who has cookies? pass the plate! 06I'm not sure what I'd doing wrong or just not quite right but I'll get it I think it'll take a bit of practice, but is worth it! My first attempts were less than beautiful. Practice helps ok LET'S SIGN IN PLEASE 12BDS are behaving well for me! Thanks! 06The firt daffodil is about done 12NancyCarol Bhm Ala USA bookjazz (#) yahoo dot com GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus., In Ria Bob Kishen, Wirral, UK Linda S Davies Stoke-on-Trent, England Ruth Perry - M iamisburg, Ohio rjpoms on yahoo APRIL 21, 2008 AFTERNOON SESSION 05Tine Vedder from Ede the Netherlands THE LESSON IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html 12Stephanie....still packing but still in N Georgia trompete #at bellsouth dot net ER NO IT IS NOT Heather Sooke BC Canada THE LESSON LINK IS LDavies rainbow http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/lindadrainbow.pdf 06Cynthia Stevenson brasthatfit@yahoo.com Stillwater Ok USA 06Marie Smith Anderson SC. USA tattingwithmarie at yahoo dot com 12the rainbow is really fantastic. BESIDES MARIEDLC WHO IS HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME? YES IT IS STEPH 12Beautiful rainbow --- I'm thinking it could be a hot-air balloon also Thanks you Stephanie 05MariedlC if you klick on the link you ll have the home work OK FOR THE NEW MEMBERS 05The link of aktatter I find that I have to double click to make the link work DURING THE LESSON IT IS A GOOD IDEA JUST TO CLICK Y K OR ANY LETTER THAT LETS THE COMPUTER KNOW YOU ARE STILL ACTIVE AND IT HELPS PREVENT BEING DUMPED OUT OF CLASS 06OOOOOOOO neat idea Nancy 05yes EVERYONE HAVE THE PAGE PRINTED OR ONSCREEN? 06yes 12yes 12when i get a chance i was going to try the rainbow ....or an adapted version of it, at least....around a small round center. yes 12y 05yes y OHH YES THAT IS A GREAT IDEA 03Marie de La Chaume Chateauroux, France, icollas#free.fr OK LINDA WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE US THROUGH THE PATTERN? LDavies rainbow http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/lindadrainbow.pdf OK AK 12and if you leave a few picots on the outside edge, it will give you somewhere to anchor more rings/chains on the outer side of the "round" rainbow not yet MY FIRST COMMENT IS TO DEFINE THE "two" AT THE END OF THE ROWS I GOT THE COLOURS OF THE RAINBOW OUT OF THE DICTIONARY FIRST 05o TURN THE WORK OVER = TWO FOR MORE INFO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html IT TOOK MORE TIME TRYING TO WORK OUT HOW MUCH THREAD TO WIND I USE THE CTM METHOD *** Rozellalinden has joined #tatchat SO THAT THERE ARE NOT TOO MANY JOINS 06TWO is that like the page of the book? WELCOME RUTH'S DOPPELGANGER RIGHT CN 12Ruth, am I seeing double? 05HI Rozella WITH SO MANY COLOURS THERE WILL ALWAYS BE SOME CUTTING AND TIE 12Boy, do I appreciate estimates of how much thread!! 06thanks it didn't print on my printout but it was on the lesson Someone's cloned Ruth! 2 RUTHS? I'm here, and so am I... Dr Jekel and Mrs. Hide 06definately on how much thread--thanks that will sure help tee hee THE THREAD ESTIMATE WAS THE HARDEST PART NANCY CTM = http://members.aol.com/SLWelker/ctm.html CONTINUOUS THREAD METHOD GASP OH NO! NOT CUT AND TIE! How did you come up with the estimates for thread length? DID EVERYONE GET THE CTM 05what is CTM? 06yes 12yes 06I already had it CONTINUOUS THREAD METHOD TINE http://members.aol.com/SLWelker/ctm.html I GUESSED THE AMOUNT, THEN TATTED, THEN MEASURED WHAT WAS LEFT Yes, thread estimates are very helpful 05thanks 03ok THE RAINBOW PATTERN IS VERY STRAIGHTFORWARD K 05y 12Thanks for using "inches" instead of centimeters or meters.... I've thought about doing that, but with different tension, and different thread size and brands I thought I'd be wrong sometimes 12I'll probably add a smidge more because I'm a bit loose with my stitches sometimes BRB I STARTE WITH A CH OF 4DS WITH VSP BETWEEN I have two shuttles loaded 12I don't always use the size thread the pattern says to use, but it still helps when you have some length to "start" with. I DID 2 ROWS OF EACH COLOUR 05yes 12Smaller thread usuallyuses a bit less, bigger thread uses more. INCREASING I DS ON EACH CHANGE OF COLOUR 06on the second row do you do unflipped like on the second half of a split ring? do we tie the two ends together? 12How big is the completed rainbow? I think I missed that.... NO CYNTHIA, I DID THE SHOE LACE TRICK AND CHANGED SHUTTLES 06oh I missed that.... OK IT IS ABOUT 2 INCHES AND 1 INCH STEPHANIE this too complicated for me 12it's a good bit smaller in size 50 thread. ;-) newbie here 03I'll start it tomorrow AFTER CHANGING SHUTTLE I TURNED THE WORK OVER 06Heather don't give up...it isn't as hard as you think 05ok LIKE TURNING THE PAGES OF A BOOK ABBREV FOR THIS IS TWO k do I tie the two together to start? SHOE LACE TRICK = http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html THE HARDEST PART WAS HIDING THE THREADS 03thks 06Heather did you see the info on Continuous Thread Msethod? yes HEATHER YOU WIND ONE END ON ONE SHUTTLE AND THE OTHER END ON THE OTHER SHUTTLE THE THREAD WAS TOO THICK FOR THE MAGIC THREAD TECHNIQUE ONE CONTINUOUS THREAD = CTM NO TAILS TO TIE 12if you leave long tails you can use the ends to sew the rainbow onto a pocket.... Could you not use magic thread to hide the ends? 06then you don't have to tie it together so only one thread? SO I SIMPLY TIED CUT AND GLUED 12or if you're gluing it onto a card, you can tuck the ends underneath and hide them with glue. ;-) 061 thread yes 2 shuttles 03which glue? ONE THREAD FROM EACH SHUTTLE YOU JUST PICK A POINT IN THE MIDDLE BETWEEN THEM AND START THE FIRST CHAIN PVA CRAFT GLUE SHUTTLE 1 = SH1 DOES THE ACTION 03merci! DRIES CLEAR AND STAYS STUCK SHUTTLE = SH2 IS THE BALL THREAD FOR THE CHAIN 05y k 03m 06c K ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS? 05no 03are you worling at the same time, the rainbow? 03working I meant DID YOU TENSION THE CHAINS TO MAKE THEM CURVE MORE WERE THE INSTRUCTIONS CLEAR ENOUGH? OR DID YOU LEAVE THEM FLAT? DID YOU ALL UNDERSTAND THE ABBREVIATIONS? YOU CAN WORK ALONG MARIE OR DO IT BEFORE OR AFTER CLASS 03what is VSP? THE NEW TATTERS OFTEN WORK ALONG TO GET STARTED yes, you've explained it well. VSP = VERY SMALL PICOT NO AK THE CURVE OCCURRED NATURALLY 03merci 05t 12directions were very clear and easy to follow 03I agree, they seem very clear! 05verry clear 06I think it is very well written even if I don't read well and miss a word LINDA I THINK THIS WOULD ALSO MAKE A GOOD PLACE TO PRATICE THE LHPJ Nice pattern... Thanks Linda! I GLAD 06Heather does it make sense to you? LHPJ? 12HA! I remembered what that one stands for!!! LHPJ 06LHPJ? LARK'S HEAD PICOT JOIN = http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/lhpj/lhpj.html 12can't DO it yet.... 06Thanks Linda THANK YOU S O MUCH FOR SHARING THIS WITH US LINDA I got both shuttles loaded now IT IS A RIOT OF COLOR! THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR KIND COMMENTS GREAT HEATHER, NOW WRAP YOUR HANDS TO MAKE THE CHAIN 05Thanks Linda 03k AND START WITH 1 DS PICOT 4 DS i'LL LET GEORGIA DO THE LHPJ EARLIER WE MENTIONED 06Thanks...That makes sense Thanks Linda. THAT THIS RAINBOW OF LINDA'S COULD WELL INSPIRE OTHERS PATTERNS THE BALLOON WAS ONE IF YOU ROTATE THE PAGE AROUND *** Tatter has joined #tatchat I SEE A SKIRT FOR A SOUTHERN BELLE *** Tatter is now known as marco WELCOME MARCO 12hi Marco! 05Hi Marco Hi Marco 03Hi Marco hello WHAT ELSE COULD WE DO TO ADAPT THIS PATTERN? Hi Marco just in time to say hi 05yes 06Hi Marco GLAD YOU MADE IT MARCO a hot air balloon was mentioned me too but always to late 3D ice Cream cone for the class 12go around a small tatted (round) center 03when complete circle, can it become an umbrella? Great ideas! OHH ICE CREAM CONE HMM NOW THAT MAKES ME THINK OF THOSE VICTORIAN CONE SHAPED HOLIDAY ORNAMENTS But I wouldn't suggest using real ice cream, the thread would get sticky 05yes Marie 12Neat! UMBRELLA WOULD BE TERRIFIC 3-D ITEM 05a parachute OK THEN TAT A SNOOD AND STUFF WITH BATTING! 03Just stick in on the ice cream! what is a snood?? 03idem IT IS A LITTLE NET FOR THE HAIR This would be a good way to use up thread you have on the shuttle oke i get it TO KEEP THE HAIR FROM WIGGLING ABOUT FREELY hihi 03ok my hair is to short to wiggle haha IF DONE IN SAND TONES, IT COULD BE A SEASHELL 12or stuff with hair....instead of all those hairpins that give you a heaavhe 12headache HEATHER HAVE YOU TATTED THE FIRST ROW OF CHAINS? good idea AK 06all those neat ideas 05Hairpins cannot in the hair of Marco Cornucopia why not tine? hihi 12hehehee...Matco, I have to keep mine pinned up because it's too long NOT to wiggle. It gets tangled BUT STILL I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT FAN 03I'm sorry I did not even start it... Sorry for me! oke 12oh, fan, yes, that would be good,too! CORNUCOPIA!! EXCELLENT AND THEN FILLE WITH TATTED FRUITS?? i like long hair, but mine is very short 06awesome idea AK and very silver 05mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm Time to start tatting one for Thanksgiving! mine too marco 12I keep thinkign I'm going to cut it so it is not so much work....but I like it long.... 12;-) mine is the colour on the box 12oh, if you made the rainbow in a circle it could be the lace around a tatted nosegay My hair is hip-length, it'll take a while to make a snood for it all, I think. 06or with a pick for a pomny tail cover... 12yeah, that's why i never made a snood for mine.... Still, if it keeps it under control, it'd be worth it :) bob hip lenght????? woh DEBBIE ARNOLD HAS A BANANA PATTERN 05OOOO is that the next lesson? www.ds9designs.com/whatsnew.html I've been growing it for 18 years now, only getting it trimmed every few months. oke OK rUTH IS THE CORNUCOPIA THE NEXT LESSON?? 12for the cornucopia? or just a new pattern? Not hardly... I've been busy doing Naalbinding 12hehehe...Bob mine is down to my derriere 12Well, mine used to be hip length.... got lazy 12i'll cut it when I can sit on it.... 05m 03k Hey Steph, I'm glad I'm not the only one who'se aiming to sit on her hair! were totally opposite Stephanie HERE'S A PUMPKING PATTERN FOR THE CORNUCOPIA www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/index2001.html 12I think I was hair-deprived as a child.... 12Mom kept it short, easier to comb/care for oke I have photos of me at age three with hair long enough to sit on that is a dream for me and will be for ever AND DOENS'T MARK HVE AN APPLE PATTERN? I hated getting it brushed and haven't had it that long since 12My sister was willing to stand still and let Mom comb it, so she had long hair. 12I couldn't be still, so mine stayed very short...."pixie" haircut ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE LESSON?? ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? 05no no 03not for the moment 12good here 06not now no aktatter not for now 12I think I'm "good" with the lesson.... Doesn't someone have a grape pattern too? no more questions here will you be on line this week aktatter? DID EVERYONE SEE THE "sEW bEAUTIFUL" MAGAZINE PHOTO? I HOPE SO MARCO 12will go try the LHPJ later today LOOK AT THE 2008 INDEX PAGE 06Yes but I didn't find it when I went for a quick look 12so I can ask a ton of questions tonight. 12;-) I have my base done so now onto row two 12The little fruits and things spilling our would need to be tiny, right? 03c http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/2008index.html 05I greet all till the next class bye Ruth, do you mean the "heard it thourgh the grapevine" pattern? 12bye Tine bye Tine 03bye tine YOU COULD RECEIVE THAT MAGAZINE AS A GIFT FROM MIMI DILLMAN FOR A PATTERN. BYE TINE ??? Saw it somewhere, don't remember where 06Awesome Heather I knew you could do it---not a tricky as it sounded at first FIRST MAKE THE CORNUCOPIA NANCY THEN GAUGE THE FRUIT TO GO IN IT *** Tine has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) The one I have is from the Online clas, but I can't remember when. 06Bye Tine WE HAVE THOSE GREAT RIEGO GRAPES TOO BUT YOU CAN MAKE A SPIRAL AND STUFF IT TO GET ROUND SHAPES ALSO Riego grapes? THAT DRESS IS JUST DRIPPING WITH TATTING bye for now evrione bye Marco and hope to see you aktatter bye marco Bye all! 06bye marco 12Sounds like we might have enough ideas to keep us tatting until T'giving 03bye Marco 06Bye Marco 06which year??? *** Rozellalinden has quit IRC (Quit: ) *** mjb has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/essgrape.html are we doing any more lessons now? BYE MARCO 03I have had a great time with you!!!! 12bye Marco 03found it very interesting 03Will come back! SO NEW LESSONS ARE ALWAYS WELCOME THAT IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR TODAY LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? 12has anyone seen the machine-made tatted edgings that some fabric stores sell? 03and will look for ideas for you and us THIS LESSON REPEATS AT 8:30pm ET (NEW YORK TIME) Will be so kind Georgia to stand in for me tonight 06awesome AK thanks 03Winkerbill, no I have not 12No, Steph, haven't see machine-made tatting? How does that work? 06Heather how are you doing? YE i HAVE SEEN SOME FAUX TATTING 03machine? How is it made? YOU BET LINDA good thanks 12really? they're around $4 or so a yard, very tiny thread..... I HAVE SEEN A LOT OF EDGINGS BY THE YARD IN QUILT STORES RECENTLY AS WELL 12I bought a few inches of one and copied it in machine embroidery thread.... IT IS COMING FROM MAINLAND CHINA 12so how do they look? 12they look nice, but i'd rather "do it myself" ME TOO LOL 06I'm glad Heather, this group can seem very fast at first but we will always help 12all i've seen is white....but the thread they use must be very small 12because they come out "huge" (compared to the "original") when done in machine-embroidery thread.... 12and THAT stuff is smaller than size 80 OK I SURE HOPE TO SEE SOME HOMEWORK FOR THE FILES ANd I WOULD SURE LIKE TO GIVE AWAY MIMI'S MAGAZINE 06you will but I tat slow...it will take a bit I would love to see some variations on my rainbow MANY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR STOPPING BY Thanks for having us PLEASE REMEMBER THAT THE CLASSROOM IS OPEN 24/7 AND MAY BE USED TO TAT AND CHAT ANY TIME BUT CLASS TIME 03I will do the rainbow, though not with the same colors, I do not have them THE BEGINNERS NEW CLASS BEGIN ON THURS APRIL 24 12hmmm....candle frill....run a small ribbon around the base of a "round" rainbow.... hows the weather at your Bob? 06See you later Bye everyone 03I'll tell AK and put it on my blog THE SPANISH CLASS MEETS WITH WALLY ON SAT. it's ok up here,what about you? 03Bye Marie bye marie OK GREAT MARIE better today BYE MNARIE 03which spanish class? I speak spanish too! 12Lin I haven't see your new video yet. Been "working" day and night for the last few weeks. 06Heather can you consider joining the beginner class on Thursday? It is slower than this but lots of fun as well 12recording, editing, re-recording....then adding the sound files to DH's software THE SPANISH CLASS MEETS ON SATURDAYS WITH WALLY SOSA RIGHT HERE 06Georgia , I forgot did the IOLI flowers get to you? EMAIL ME MARIE FOR THE INFO I only uploaded it this afternoon just before class 03I will AK 12got a new release date of sometime in July, so I'm tryhing to get as much done on "my" end as I can. 12Bye Everybody. Thanks to Linda, Georgia! And everybody else for ideas. 03By Nancy Carol 12Because of all the excessive pollen here (eveyrthing is yellow!) I'm losing my voice.... by nancy bye NancyCarol YES MARIE AND THEY HAVE ALL GONE TO THE COMMITTEE NOW MANY THANKS FOR YOUR HELP 12which happens to be the "voice" of the software, so I may need to take a day off today. 12Can't record.....sound a bit "froggy" 12;-) 06Good. See you . freddy the frog? 12plenty of time to tat and check out tatting web sites today! 12;-) good thing tooStephanie 12Well....maybe Froschi the frog? *** NancyCarol has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12;-) check out my little bootees as well Stephanie 03I have just recoverd my hands and tatting is a renaissance to me! 12oh, I will. They sounded so cute! *** Marie has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) OK THANKS TO ALL FOR STOPPING BYE have you any tea left in that pot?, dear GOOD BYE FOR NOW AND HAPPY TATTING Session Close: Mon Apr 21 14:49:44 2008 Session Start: Mon Apr 21 19:29:52 2008 *** Now talking in #tatchat hello all! Hi GS I'm going over to aol to see if anhyone needs help to get here back soon Working on the head *** Tatter has joined #tatchat How's that going for you Sheron *** Tatter is now known as Stephanie Meant wings not rings *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Working on the block tatting, need to practice *** Tatter is now known as Winkerbill hi everyone Hi, all. 06Hi Wink *** Tatter has joined #tatchat I had to adjust along the way as I had used very short bugle type beads threw off the pattern alittle bit nick/Debbie 06Hi Debbie 12hi Debbie *** Tatter601 has joined #tatchat Hi Cynthia and Winkerbill 12hi *** Tatter676 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter601 is now known as alphaprimavera nick/ Dani 12hey, something happened this afternoon that has NEVER happened before....at our ouse. ok looks like we are good to go! 06Hi Dani 12Recipe said "cut when cool"....do not cut UNTIL cool what's that wink nick/ newname i dont see my name at right ? 12but the stuff is hard as a brick and WELDED to the pan. nick\ new name 12Anyone got any ideas how to get it out...and get it CUT? hmm the nick/ is not working tonight *** Tatter019 has joined #tatchat 06what is it? 12The parts I could whack up were great.... warm it up again 12oatmeal nut bars nick| Dani *** Tatter019 is now known as NancyCarol 12supposed to be really crispy like the inside of a candy bar. go to the bottom right to the window that says change nick Change name box worked for me type in your name and hit enter *** Tatter676 is now known as Dani Oatmeal nut bars....I think I could just chew those out of the pan! nick/ aka 06ah try warming it gently over a stove unit just until it will come loose 12warm it up? That'll let me get the cookies out of the pan (and cut?) hmm 03Hey Folks! Are you still getting organized for the night? 06probably might 4 more minutes open chat nancy Put pan in a pan of warm water to soften and loosen it 12Thanks...I'll try that. Never had anything WELD itself to a pan like that! Good night everyone paule so nice to see you 12bonsoir Paule 06that's what I do with brownies that have siezed in the pan gnite Did you butter/flour the pan? Bonsoir georgia >> my name = Dani ??? 03Good deal -- I'm trying to eat my spaghetti quickly 12oh yeah...it said well-greased, so I well-greased it.... 12;-) ah ! there i am Flour? after grease? 06I uaully use parchment instead and it doesn't have that problem 12yep 12if I'd known it was going to do THAT, I'd have gotten the parchment out and greased THAT.... 12;-) 12But it sounded so "innocent" 06I don't take the chance but I just use it anyway If you are reduced to chipping it out you can clean the remains *** AKTATTER is now known as aka by soaking the pan in powdered dishwash detergent Now you know for next time ah ha it is /nick yourname 12If I have to chip it out it's gonna end up being fantastic granola.... *** aka is now known as AKTATTER maybe next time use a silicone pan I had a pan of brownies that was so hard, it broke a steak knife. 06well at least it will be edible 12oh, fantastic. That was the next thing....how in the world am i gonna get it out when i wash it. 12yeah, this stuff is so hard I'm wondering if the knife is going to break....sawing at it with a steak knife.... 12;-) 06hot water and some powdered dishwasher stuff let it sit overnight 12thanks....great idea yes just a small amt of water lots of dishwash powder 06been there and done that 12not so much scrubbing.... *** Tatter086 has joined #tatchat 06almost none hey all .... b4 class begins ......... pls pray for diabetic hubby ..... he has bedsore @ tail bone , n Rt foot nowswathed w/ bandage also :( Just don't twist the knife at all when you cut, or it could break.... so sorry to hear that dani BEST WISHES FOR HIM DANI ty 03Good luck, Dani. how is your mom Georgia 12hehehe....i'm afraid i'm gonna cut my finger off....holding the pan and hacking at the cookies 12;-) *** alphaprimavera has left #tatchat STILL WITH US CONNIE :) 06Dani I'm so sorry. We'll pray for him. contact me after class I have some ideas fro 15 years home health 03Dani - hope you've got some good treatment going for him Glad to hear that 12Dani i'll put him on my list for prayer TATTER PLEASE CHANGE YOUR NAME BY TYPING /NICK YOURNAME missed you at Hector but God willing see you at Palmetto? I WAS SAD TO MISS IT BUT IT WAS VERY DIFFICULT DAY FOR US got a Big box full of dressing changes materials ;; n slide scale re sugar level n sugar pills now nOT THIS YEAR CONNIE :( Awwwwwwwwwww OK LET'S GET SIGNED IN PLEASE There's always next year GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA RIGHT! APRIL 21 2008 EVENING SESSION THE LESSON FOR TONIGHT IS dani < Laws_DanielaK@msn.com > Jackson MISS 06Cynthia Stevenson brasthatfit at yahoo dot com Stillwater Ok USA Connie Angeline Alantic City Nj clesliea@aol.com LDavies rainbow http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/lindadrainbow.pdf 12Stephanie W. still in N Georgia but packing to move.... trompete #at bellsouth dot net Debbie Radecky dradecky@hughes.net Branch, Mi USA DEBBIE TRY CHANGING YOUR NAME AGAIN /NICK YOURNAME 03NancyCarol bhm Ala USA bookjazz # yahoo dot com Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, Columbia, SC *** Tatter is now known as Debbie Sheron how was brooklyn Paule Primeau, Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime@vl.videotron.ca There, did it work? Yep. 12it worked! GREAT DEB! Good time with family OK 086 YOUR TURN JUST TYPE /NICK YOURNAME one Tatter still on line ;) Somehow, tatting seems like the easiest part of this..... lol 12i know what you mean LOL IT GETS EASIER AFTER A FEW SESSIONS 06lol :) but it gets easier with practice *** Tatter086 is now known as alphaprimavera The tatting or the computer part? hi alpha ! AND DON'T FORGET TO TYPE Y N OR K OR ANYTHING TO LET THE COMPUTER KNOW THAT YOU ARE STILL ACTIVE SO IT WON'T BOUNCE YOU OUT OF CLASS 06it took me 4 weeks to manage it--getting into the class GREAT PAULE Stpehanie Bryant, mortaine #@ gmail.com. Currently in Washington, DC. Allo Dani 12computers have minds of their own....they do what they want to y n or k ? ANYTHING AT ALL DANI K 06any letter works or ....ie ::participate ? SO TONIGHT THE LESSON IS SHARED WITH US BY LINDA DAVIES OF TEH UK LDavies rainbow http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/lindadrainbow.pdf 03q 06I try to do it everytime my color gets to the top EVERYONE HAVE THE PATTERN PRINTED OR UP O NTHE SCREEN? 06yes 12y 03y not i yet :S ANYONE HERE FOR THE FIRST TIME TONIGHT? Me! hi steph ! WELCOME STEPHANIE! 06welcome Stephanie PLEASE ASK QUESTIONS ANYTIME Welcome Stephanie OK Thanks! where's the Pattn to save to favs ? Thanks! THIS IS A BEAUTIFUL PATTERN LDavies rainbow http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/lindadrainbow.pdf 06sometimes we go fast but just ask and we'll go back over it THIS BLOCK TATTED RAINBOW PRESENTS A FEW CHALLENGES FIRST A NEW ABBREVIATION TWO WHICH MEANS???? 12brb phone Turn work over? 06yes RIGHT STEPH!! like a page ? WE USE SEVERAL TERMS FOR TURNING THE TATTING YOU MIGHT WANT TO REVIEW THIS PREVIOUS LESSON http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html im used to Turning ( top 2 bottom ) &&& right to left ... or vice versa TURN CAN ALSO MEAN ROTATE, REVERSE WORK OR FLIP RIGHT DANI ty TEH SECOND CHALLENGE LINDA HAS CONQUERED FOR US JUST HOW MUCH THREAD IS NEEDED FOR EACH COLOR NOTE THE DIRECTIONS TELLUS TO BEGIN WITH 38" 06definately helps on this one OR JUST OVER ONE METER AND THE SHUTTLES ARE WOUND CTM CTM MEANS?? 03thread estimates are a great bonus 06Continuous Thread Method 12i'm back one thread tween 2 shuttles Continous Thread Method *** Tatter has joined #tatchat YES THEY ARE SO HELPFUL RIGHT AGAIN! TO REVIEW THAT TERM SEE http://members.aol.com/SLWelker/ctm.html WELCOME TATTER PLEASE SIGN IN LINDA, HOWEVER, TOOK A SHORT CUT FOR THE ENDS *** connie has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) THERE WOULD BE TWO TAILS FOR EACH COLOR TO SECURE 06c BUT SHE DID THE GOOD OL' CUT AND TIE AND THEN GLUED BUT WE COULD HIDE THE ENDS AS WE WORK AS WELL HERE'S TIPS ON HIDING ENDS *** Tatter467 has joined #tatchat WELCOME TATTER PLEASE SIGN IN *** Tatter467 is now known as connie AND THE BEST DIAGRAM TO SHOW THIS IS ON THIS PAGE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/rodgers/carnation.html fell off my chaor CALLED TEH MAGIC THREAD TRICK chair 06W B connie LOL SEAT BELT FOR CONNIE AND ONE LAST TERM TO NOTE SLT MEANS ?? shoe lace trick RIGHT ON CONNIE! Shoe Lace trick http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html NOW STEPH YOYU CAN SEE THAT IF THERE IS ANY TERM 12connie maybe we could put some of my cookie dough on your chair....then you'd be stuck there forever. OR DIRECTION THAT YOU DON'T KNOW JUST ASK 12;-) WE HAVE LOTS OF AIDS POSTED ONLINE TO HELP What I really want to know... YES PAULE? lo l ...is what arrow down means?... THE DOWN ARROW = SLJ = SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN reverse / turn down ? Join?... join below the line of the current tatting http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html AND LINDA'S NOTES TELL US THAT THE JOIN IS MADE TO THE VSP OR VERY SMALL PICOT OF THE PREVIOUS ROW OK PAULE? ok G NOW WE COULD TAKE THE TIME TO MAKE A DIFFERENT JOIN THERE INSTEAD OF A SLJ WE COULD DO THE LHPJ ? BUTIT DOES TAKE EXTRA TIME = ? 12it's not as hard as it sounds.... LHPJ = LARK HEAD'S PICOT JOIN oh ;; k 12finally figured it out this afternoon. 06c STEPHANIE HAD A WORKOUT WITHE LHPJ TODAY TELL US ABOUT IT STEPHANIE Yes please do 12well i finally figured out that you had to tighten 12the join a little at a time or you ended up with a big tangled knot 12but it DOES work if you JUST AS WHEN WE MAKE A SPLIT CHAIN 12tighten the thread a little at a time. TIGHTEN THE HS SEPARATELY AND SLOWLY JUST KINDA TWITCH THEM INTO PLACE GENTLY hs = ? HS = HALF STITCH k 12maybe that's why something finally clicked....i can do split chains now. ;-) 1 HS 2HS ETC SEE THERE ANOTHER MYSTERY SOLVED ! :) FOR A STUDY ON THE INDIVIDUAL HALF STITCHES SEE: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk.html OK READY GET GO WE TAT THE CHAIN ACROSS TWO 06c Why would we do LHPJ instead of SLJ AND TAT BACK AGAIN DOINGTHE SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN TO THE TINY PICOTS ? to not have the color WHEN YOU SWITCH COLORS YOU ADD A DS TO EACH SEGMENT OF CHAIN of the previous row show thru THE LHPJ MAKES IT LOOK LIKE A REGULAR DS OK THE SLJ IS A MORE UNTIDY BUMP I hate SLJ lol OHH LA LA WHAT DO YOU PREFER TO USE PAULE? LHPJ AH OK!! 12so you use the LHPJ anywhere the pattern says to use the SLJ? THE CHAINS NATURALLY CURVE AS THE JOINS ARE MADE or sometimes...Catherine wheel join AND THE ORDER OF COLORS OF THE RAINBOW IS CORRECT LINDA RESEARCHED IT TO BE CERTAIN 12....hmm...yet another join to learn.... 12;-) *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) Not automatically Stephanie 06c , OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERN? 12is there some rule of thumb that says when to use the LHPJ and when to go ahead and use the SLJ? 12in general, i mean.... THE LHPJ IS AN ENHANCEMENT NOT A STRUCTURAL REQUIREMENT OF THE ATTING TATTING Others, more experienced should answer that! 03Are they really interchangeable? EVEN THE REGULAR DONW JOIN OR UP JOIN COULD BE LHPJ INSTEAD Not really in my humble opinion... 06why? WE ALL WANT OUR WORK TO BE THE BEST LOOKING CYN JUST CONSIDER THE UP AND THE DOWN JOIN I think that each situation has its own challenge... 03Oh, my -- so much to learn and experiment with http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/joins/103joins.html Nancy you will never be bored! WE BEGAN USING THE DOWN JOIN TO MAKE THE WORK LOOK BETTER It does! WHEN USING THE UP JOIN THE RING ON THE RIGHT LOOKED DIFFERENT FROM THE RING ONT EH LEFT 12right. 03That's for SURE! And I like that NO BARS ACROSS THE LEGS OF THE PICOT USE THE DOWN JOIN AND BOTH RINGS LOOK THE SAME WITH BARS ACROSS THE LEGS OF THE JOINING PICOT 12yes.... ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERN? Yes what about front and back tatting 06ok I think I've always done the "down join" as I thought it looked more like a regular ds THAT IS THE EXACT POINT CYN WELL PAULE I'M FOR IT 12ok, so i'm doing the down join on the "front" of the work, and the "up" join on the back of the work. I THINK THE WORK LOOKS GOOD WITH A DEFINITE FRONT AND BACK SIDE yes Stephanie 12so how do I know when a LHPJ would be better to use? RIGHT STEPOH 06ok that would work--I think Winker bill there only one answer in my opinion Try it! 12;-) THAT IS THE ONLY WAY TO DECIDE WHAT you LIKE BEST 06ok makes sense to me 12ok (............ i feel like a complete novice here , still ........) 12now that I finally got it figured out, i'll probably use too many of them for a while.... 12until the "new" wears off, at least 06we all do Dani don't despair DANI WE ARE ALL LEARNING all these techniques of joining ......... JUST TODAY I LOOKED AT SOMETHING CALLED A STACKED DIMPLED HEART AND ALL I COULD SAY WAS "HUH?" 06a what? Cool 12where was THAT pattern? where did you see that SO NOW THIS PATTERN IS RATHER INSPIRATIONAL IT WAS IN A RUSSIAN BOOK STEPH 12yikes! which won my Xmas Tree .... whenever Hubby permits me time to finish creating it ..... requuires No turning (believe it or not) one JUST TURN THE RAINBOW AROUND ? :) 06c IRINA ASTEN...? THE ONE WHO STOLE TATTING STUFF FROM SO MANY TATTERS NOW TO ME THAT LOOKS LIKE THE SKIRT OF A SOUTHERN BELLE Dani after class I may have something to help you hubby the one with the web site YES I THINK SHE DOES HAVE ONE Laws_DanielaK@msn.com ........ pls e- me ,whatever OR IF IT WERE SHORTER AND TATTED IN SAND COLORS IT COULD BE A SEASHELL With a bug on it! EARLIER TO DAY IT WAS SUGGESTED THE IT COUL DBE MADE WITH MORE SMALL ROWS OF TATTING AND THEN ROLLED INTO A CORNUCOPIA A bernard-l'hermite SAND FLEA PAUPLE WE WERE THINKING ABOUT FRUITS AND VEGGIES TO STUFF INTO IT FOR A HARVEST DECORATION Sand flea ,he?... http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/pumpkin1.jpg godd idea 06c BANANA www.ds9designs.com/whatsnew.html 12bernard-l'hermite sounds much nicer than sand flea GRAPES www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/essgrape.html sand fleas ive met , Bite ! WE MIGHT HAVE TO MAKE ROUND FABRIC BALLS AND SEWN ON THE TATTING AND STUFF BUT IT'S DOABLE I THINK I ALSO THOUGHT IT COULD BE ONE OF THOSE VICTORAIN CONES SHAPES TREE ORNAMENTS NOW WHAT DO YOU SEE IN IT?? umbrella 06a can can dancer skirt AH YES I FORGOT THAT ONE A GOOD ONE TOO OUI LA CAN CAN! 03And the hot air balloon OR A FLAMENCO DANCER? OLE! RIGHT NANCY AND THE PARACHUTE SO MANY IDEAS if you can continue the circle it would make a good grapefruit How about a hot air ballone with a basket hanging underneath? 06cupcake top NOW DID YOU ALL SEE THAT BEAUTIFUL MAGAZINE ON TEH INDEX PAGE? 12yes 06more of an ice cream cone Have it 03Oh, yes, need a basket. EXCELLENT IDEAS CONNIE, PAULE 06yes Yes! THAT MAGAZINE IS SEW BEAUTIFUL AND IT HAS THE SWEETEST DRESS JUST DRIPPING WITH TATTING Did you know that those rows of edging are sewn together with entredeux MIMI IS OFFERING IT AS A PRIZE FOR A NEW PATTERN IT COULD BE YOURS! to make the large strips of tatting PUT ON YOUR THINKING CAPS entredeux ? FINE EMBROIDERED LACE STRIPS OR BATISTE IT GOES BETWEEN TWO OTHERS PIECES OF FABRIC Any particular kinds of patterns? Hearts, doilies, anything? looks like a strip of fabric with hemstitching in the center sort of ladder like ENTRE DEUX BETWEEN TWO PAULE? oui ak That magazine... what is the date? IT IS A SEWING MAGAZINE THE TATTING IN JUST SERENDIPITY hmm ;; k or number? current issue #117, 2008 IT WAS THE EASTER ISSUE SO MARCH Yes Geogia between two GREAT EMBROIDERY EMBELLISHMENT GIVEN THANKS PAULE OK SO THE REST IS UP TO YOU YOU AL KNOW THE CHALLENGE IS BLOCK TATTING THIS YEAR GOOD LUCK 06c OK THAT IS ALL THAT I HVE TONIGHT twas a good class ARE THERE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? 06very good class THANKS DANI GLAD YOU MADE IT H OME IN TIME TO BE HERE actually did understand some SUPER! STEPH I SURE HOPE YOU WILL JOIN US AGAIN NEXT WEEK really ;;; i forgot , but opened ur e mail 1st , ak YOU MAY ALSO EMAIL IN ANY QUESTIONS OR IDEAS OK 06Dani are you and others aware of the Thursday beginner class? It is a bit slower but just as fun I will get back to you wednesday about the translation Georgia thursd ? Thanks-- I'll try (sorry I got distracted a bit by something toward the end...) Thanks for your time and patience Georgia Thanks, all! MIMI AND KATIA LEAD THE BEGINNERS CLASS AND WALLY LEADS TEH SPANISH CLASS ON SATURDAYS *** Stephanie has left #tatchat 06Thursday evenings OK PAULE THANKS time ? 129 p.m. "NY" time BEGINNERS 9 PM I THINK SPANISH CLASSIS 5 PM ET 8 thursd ;;; here ? 03Several of us come twice on Monday and Thursdays at 9 pm 06yes Dani ALL ARE WELCOME AT ALL OF THE CLASSES k 03We don't want to miss anything! Ruth are you busy making up a new knot to confound me with over there AND IT IS GREAT TO STO PBY THE NEW TATTERS CLASS TO ENCOURAGE THEM ALONG RUTH MUST BE LURKING TONIGHT OK THEN THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TONIGHYT GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING ALL Session Close: Mon Apr 21 20:26:08 2008