Session Start: Mon Mar 03 14:06:04 2008 *** Now talking in #tatchat 06yOU'RE WELCOME 05Hey Teach! 06oops. sorry for the caps what egg/ 06Hi G! hell all 03hi Georgia. Hi G did anyoen have trouble with the pdf?? Hi Georgia 04Hi, Georgia. 03mjb...just something on facebook still downloading 05ROTFL hell all lol lol noI have not I dudn't get it. 05I never got the pdf to down load at all Hi Georgia egg in the face 06I just got it. Bj, I will email it to you when it finishes, probally next week 06no porblems ok brb I will post the two pages as jpg 05oh good Thanks Liz 03the file is almost 11MB. 06Hey, Georgia! thanks 05c 06I put mine on a CD I'm just trying it now... 04:) 05good idea 03which pages are we going to us today in the rickrack book? 03does anyone know? no no soma pages sorry some pages Bev, it will be on it's way in a min. 03no problem... 06There are 22 pages hihi 03yes 05k liz 06there are only 2 pages with tattin gon that book 06at the end some really neat crochet pieces tho! 06We are going to see how to change the rick rack to block tatting? 06Oh! That's a good idea! a nice idea we are looking at tjust the two tatting pages page 20 and 21 I think it will be just a couple of minutes more page 20 is not tattet it's p23, but it's the 20th page of the pdf 06The printed page says pp 23 and 24, I think 04c 05c sorry it isn't going to load in time for class 06It is 20 and 21 on the files 03pages 20 and 21 in pdf document there is not page 23 and 24 how many of you have the two pages [printed? or can see it? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat should we postpone? 03I do...just finished *** Tatter is now known as RuthPerry 05n I ahve it in another window.. I do 05Hi Ruth 06I can see it 03hi Ruth Hi Ruth Hi Ruth 04hi, Ruth hi Ruth 05If the majority has it - go with it :>) 06Hi Ruth I have print it 06I downloaded it without problems 03I'm glad I'm near-sighted..sure is tiny print.. ok by me sure sorry anyone had trouble I thought the pdf would be trouble free silly me working on printing the two pgs 04I don't have it. 05Usually Pdf down load slowly but they usually work 05not this time verry slowly 03I'm going to close mine..maybe too many are trying at the same time. 12hi everyone.. I'm typing with one hand, on the phone with Wilma too *** BJs has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) Hi Ruth I usually find that they work better if I right click and the "save target as" rather than double-clicking to open it from a website 06That's what I was going to say Bob 06it's faster that way I agree, much faster I right click everythine,sooo much faster 06Hi BOB Did not see you. Hi Marie, I'm hiding at the back :) Session Start: Mon Mar 03 14:28:03 2008 *** Now talking in #tatchat 06i think she's dealing with the pages for tonight 05So have we got links for tonight? Isn't it the rick rack book? 05yes I can't see how you made it change direction...unflipped DS perhaps? 03I can hardly wait until time to leave for Hector..yes see you there Sue! I do believe they are getting some weather there today, suppose to hit here tomarrow 06when is hector? 05They threatened snow here last night! But it was just bitter cold 05We had snow flurries but nothing stuck and sunny now 03April 05Turning the corner of the rick rack - mabe a SLT? 05Are you going to divulge it Ruth??? next night there will be snow here in the netherlands I had snow here yesterday and now high 60's low 70's 06which days? 03april 5 and 6th We had a tiny bit of snow in Liverpool today, but it melted as soon as it touched the grouond :( 06It is beautiful here, just a little windy 05Hector is the first weekend in April, I fly in on the Wednesday 2nd... So that weekend *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 05Tine, do people ever ice skate where you live? 05Thanks linda was busy typing... *** Liz has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) 03classes are beginning to fill up...missed Sue's charm class. bummer *** Tatter is now known as Liz 06aw... I would love to go. but will be too near the 3rd and can't buy the ticket 12not SLT, normal, then direct on 1st row, then one row direct, one row normal 05AK is back 03no problem 05at least she's on the list no there is no ice now Aaah, now I understand, thanks Ruth. 03I"m flying in Thursday. 05good I hope I can stay connected long enough for class 06Hey Liz! 05Ah flip and non flipping :-) 05me too, Liz Yes? Now I look more closely i can see they DS face opposite ways. didn't spot that at first. 05You need to just even hit a letter every so often to stay connected 05glad yr bck 05I think with Liz, it is weather thanks, weather is changing 05It says she's here but Georgia is very quiet... I think Georgia has problems with here computer baro is dropping like a rock right now 06I'll be in the JFK in NY for 6 hrs, if someone wants to make me company. :) 05my oranges hurt my 'tummy' bummer 06on march 11th 05Strange weather today was very sunny but with no cloud cover getting cold already... ohhhh not good 05Too early for me, sorry Wally 05too far for me, Wally :>) 05Not ripe yet then BJ? 05I love to fly BJ, I'm going to have to scan those two pages for you, too big of a file 05no, they were ripe, a bit sour too far for me too. Wish i could go. I do never fly 06Citrus is hard on digestive system some times 05That is okay Liz, don't sweat the small stuff 12Georgia is having computer problems. Lets all sign in and begin the class. 12Ruth Perry Miamisburg, Ohio rjpoms at Yahoo.com 05Sue Hansons SE London Tine Vedder from THe Netherlands Liz weaver_wool@yahoo.com Exchange,WV 05Beverly June Davis Silver City New Mexico USA beeloyal1@aol.com 03when is that Wally...I'll be there on the Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus., In usa 06Wally Sosa, Egypt, needledreams@yahoo.com 06Marie Smith Anderson SC tattingwithmarie@yahoo.com 05JAne announce yourself!!!!! 03I should be arriving in JFK about 10am on the 3rd 03Linda Barnes Woodbridge, VA lingram2@comcast.net Sorry - JaneEb - here in the UK Ria Bob Kishen, Wirral Uk 06Jane's hidin' with Bob 05Stop falling to sleep woman! 12GEORGIA ASKED ME TO TALK ABOUT HOW TO DO THE RIC RAC THAT IS TATTED. I'm working on my biggie and it's nearing the end, sorry Sue!! 05Put it down and join in,,, 12YOU CAN ALL COPY THE PHOTO FROM MY BLOG IF YOU LIKE. 05genuis at work 06Can't wait to see it, Jane! 05thank you 05HArdly BJ! 12THE CHALLENGE WAS TO TAT SOMETHING WITH ONE SHUTTLE THAT LOOKS LIKE RIC RAC 05No ball thread then? *** BJs has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) But as you've copyrighted it we can't use it can we Ruth? 12ONE CHUTTLE, AND I USED THE BALL TOO ok 13Thnks 06Well, the ric rac chain or zig zag chain is like the ric rac ribbon 12I DON'T THINK GEORGIA SPECIFIED NOT USING BALL THREAD, ANYWAY, I REMEMBERED CROCHETING A RIPPLE AFGAN MANY YEARS AGO AND DECIDED TO TRY TATTING SIMILAR o 12THE FIRST ROW WAS FAIRLY EASY, JUST ZIGZAG CHAIN k 12BUT THEN, HOW TO MAKE IT THICKER? 13MMM yes very similar to the crochet ripple - didn't see that... Gosh I've crochetted a fair acre of that! *** JaneEb has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06with a mini block of 3 lines 03did you encapuslate another thread? 12AS I WENT AROUND THE CORNER AND DOWN THE SECOND ROW I REALIZED THAT THE NEXT ROW HAS TO BE EITHER DIRECT STITCHES OR NORMAL STITCHES 12YOU GOT IT wALLY! o 06:) 12SO HOW TO MAKE THE MOUNTAINS AND VALLEYS TURN THE CORNERS? HMMM 03yah Wally! 12CROCHETING YOU JUST DECREASE IN THE VALLEYS AND INCREASE IN THE MOUNTAINS 13do two turns instead of the one - for turning the corner, maybe? so think I 06instead of joining the 4th line, don't join it and continue *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 12YEP! GIVE SUE A GOLD STAR! THAT'S RIGHT, BUT I DID A JOIN, PICOT, THEN ANOTHER JOIN o 12THIS GAVE THE MOUNTAIN THE TWO TURNS 13OOO I got a gold star! wOOW THANK YOU I think I understand. 12AND A PICOT TO JOIN TO ON THE NEXT ROW 03congratz Sue aha 12IN THE VALLEYS I DID A PICOT AND THEN JOINED TO THE PREV ROW, THEN JOIN TO THE PICOT JUST MADE 12THAT GIVES THE TURN AT THE BOTTOM 12MY CHAINS WERE BASED ON 10 DS Aha! 12SO THE FIRST ROW WAS 10 DS ZIG ZAG CHAIN 13This would look lovely in that Mexicana VAregated thread Ruth 13Round a T-shirt neck *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 03that would be pretty 12THE NEXT ROW IS 9 PICOT 1 JOIN 1 JOIN 9 JOIN 1 PICOT 1 JOIN 9 interesting idea. 06Very clever 12I'D LOVE TO SEE WHAT EVERYONE CAN DO WITH THE IDEA IN WILD AND WONDERFUL THREAD! 13Taking it further using a second shuttle to throw off a ring on the outer point... Perhaps a bead or two in there 12THAT REPEATS UP AND DOWN THE MOUNTAINS that is nice Sue Wow Sue, you're very creative! 12IT WOULD LOOK GREAT WITH BEADS AT THE EDGE TURNS TOP AND BOTTOM 06i'm working on it now 13I think I might try to decorate one of me new holiday t-shits. 12WALLY, YOU'RE BAD! 06:) 13Wally does a good job of being bad... LOL 06I need to do something while with insomnia 12THE IDEA THAT GEORGIA HAD WAS TO MAKE RIC RAC TATTED ROSES LIKE THE ONES ON THE LINKS SHE SENT OUT 13Mmmm them roses are lovely... yes Those roses are pretty! 12BUT THIS COULD BE USED FOR ALL KINDS OF THINGS 12WHAT TIME IS IT IN EGYPE? I think so 12EGYPT, TYPOSIS 0610:47 pm bed time EEEEKKKKKSSS! 12THAT'S NOT TOO LATE 13000 9.47 here in the UK 13so your only one hour later than me! 06I never go to bed before 2-3 am in the Netherlands 9.50 12GOOD THINK NO ONE LIVES IN THE MIDDLE OF THE OCEAN, IT WOULD BE REALLY STRANGE TIME THERE 13Me neither unless I have to be up early the next day... that is verry late 12WELL, GEORGIA IS STILL SIGNED IN, ARE YOU THERE FEARLESS LEADER? 13Europe is 5 hours on NY time and 6 on WA time I wouldn't even see the thread at that hour 13She's been here all along but ain't sure she's getting us Ruth 12HER MOUSE CURSOR FROZE AND SHE REBOOTED AND IT DIDN'T FIX IT. SO SHE'S TRYING A FEW THINGS I SUGGESTED. yes it is 12ANYONE HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE RIC RAC? 13Ah mopuse trouble = perhaps needs reinstalling... 13mouse no it is clear 12KEYBOARD TOO, NOT JUST THE MOUSE. 13No I think I have it thans Ruth That all makes sense, you explained it very well, Ruth. 03I remember the first time mine did that, but mine is a cordless mouse...finally figured out that I needed to change the batteries....LoL 12HAVE YOU TATTED AND JOINED TO RIC RAC LIKE IN THE PAGES THAT ARE FOR CLASS TODAY? 13Ahhh software probs _ I had that with MS 03mine was operator error...giggle 12ANYONE? I THINK IT LOOKS GREAT, BUT I'VE NEVER TRIED IT 13Yes I have done a pattern by Kary Solomon. She sent some rainbow RicRac with her newsletter some time ago s you have to do it Ruth 12ALL COMPUTER PROBLEMS ARE HARDWARE RELATED... LOOSE NUT ON THE KEYBOARD 03rofl 13or the chips riding up... I've never seen rick rack braid to buy, so I've never tried tatting onto it. 06OH!!! This is so fun!!! I'm using 2 colors and is working like a charm! Nice Wally 12OK WALLY HOW LONG TIL YOU CAN SCAN IT AND SEND US A PHOTO? 06Will send a photo to G and to Ruth for the next session 12GREAT, THANKS! 13Send me your snail address Bob _ I have some vintage stuff I can send you to play with. 12WE USED TO BE ABLE TO GO TO THE FIVE AND DIME STORE AND BUY BIAS TAPE AND RIC RAC AND ALL KINDS OF STUFF. 13I just hoard it LOL hihi Oh Sue, that's very kind of you! 12NOW THE 5 & 10 CENT STORE COSTS DOLLARS *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 13Not a problem... And you're welcome 12AND I DARE YOU TO FIND MUCH OS A SELECTION OF RIC RAC 13I just Liverpool has all the chain stores, but no interesting little shops or craft-type shops. 12 LIKE WHO USES THAT ANYMORE, OR WHO MAKES THEIR OWN CLOTHES? 13get it from my nmates recycling place. I make some of my own clothes, but we are a rare breed these days.. I greet all 12THE SUPER CENTER TYPE STORES HAVE PUT THE LITTLE SHOPS OUT OF BUSINESS 13That's like London these days. When I lived in Yorkshire - nothing everything was in London. Now it's the other way round! LOL Sue, that's so true!! Yes, we are. I have to make my own Civil War Era stuff all the time for re-enacting *** Tine has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12WELL IT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE GEORGIA HAS MADE IT BACK ONLINE. I have to go back to the small town I grew up in if I want to buy threads. 12WHEN YOU MAKE COSTUMES FOR REINACTING DO YOU HAND SEW? Some of it I have to 12TO BE AUTHENTIC A LOT OF IT SHOULD BE DONE BY HAND Civil war era clothes, they'll be a lot more difficult than what i make! 13I just looove that era of dresses But don't have the body for it these days LOL Very true, I have four outfits so far 12I BOUGHT PATTERNS TO MAKE A NEW REINACTMENT OUTFIT, BUT HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO GET STARTED ON IT 03I found mine at Wal-mart and Yes, they should all be hand sewn 13Have you seen some of the patterns onlin for old clothing? 03thank you Ruth..gotta go..bye all bye Linda, see you next week 13By Linda see you soon :-) 12SUE, THERE WERE EXPERIENCED, HEALTHY PEOPLE DURING THE 1800S TOO 12 I bought my first pattern then just modified it for the other three 03ok..thanks bye for now thanks Ruth gotto go too *** LindaB has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** mjb has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12WELL, IF THERE ARE NO MORE QUESTIONS, GO TAT AND HAVE FUN! Bob, would love to see your tatting project from today 13I must go and wash the purple off me hair! Been on somewhat ooong this time have fun everybody 12sEND HOMEWORK TO GEORGIA! 06I'll send the photo now. :) 13#Thanks Ruth for stepping in. Night all Purple? That's a cool colour for hair! *** Tatter has left #tatchat 13Yep AKA Purtple Sue I am Thanks for the lesson, Ruth! 12YOU'RE WELCOME! 06See ya in the next session if I don't fall asleep. *** Liz has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06Thanks Ruth for the lesson Purple is my favourite colour, i even had a purple wedding dress! 13OOO Ruth Was your ears burning aa couple of hours ago???? *** Wally has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 13I was hunting for some cotton perle and found that Celtic tablecloth I got for you!!! It will be in me case for the States :-) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Stephanie 12cOOL~! SEE YOU IN HECTOR hi...sorry I'm late, just got back from NC 13Well it had your name on it!!!! By All *** SueH has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06Thanks Ruth! 12Marie, I thought of you when I passed the Russell Stover exit. 12;-) 06Steph lesson is over. :-( Hi Stephanie. Sorry, but we're all drifting off now, class has finished... 12HI STEPH 12yeah, I know....i'll be back tonight. Just got home 12hi Ruth 12couldn't resist checking in 06I am less than 5 miles from there. Hope to see you all again next week. bye All. 12been in tatting class "withdrawal" for almost 3 weeks. *** Bob has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06Bye Bob 12Georgia, if nothing goes wrong with the computer, I'll see you tonight....FINALLY... *** RuthPerry has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 12got to unpack the car, bye all/.... *** Stephanie has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06GA did not come back. Having keyboard and mouse trouble 06Bye everyone. Note from AKTATTER: Many thanks to Ruth Perry for substitute teaching the class on this look at replacing rick rack with a line of tatted blocks. Session Start: Mon Mar 03 19:22:28 2008 *** Now talking in #tatchat Hello all 02cant seem to fix 06Hi Georgia Georgia!!! 12box on right side under "change nick to" type in your name and hit enter 12Hi Georgia 13Ruth your tatting is amazing 02Hi georgia, this is Nita messed up here 02cant get my name to show Been doing it for about 56 years *** Tatter284 is now known as Cathy 13Do you use a special shuttle for all those intertwined chains? practice makes perfect, but there's always more to learn don't feel bad Nita I was in class this afternoon and couldn't type a word! I see Nita on my list I like the celtic shuttles that are available, but I like finger tatting best 02i have done that over and over and I still show as tatter 12Nita: try Nita2 12Since Nita is taken by your ghost I sent out a note to tatlis with 4 new links on it. I hope you al lgot it in time 12Can't have two Nita's but can have Nita and Nita2 06not me... 04Got it this afternoon 13I worry about running out of thread, and finger tatting with any length is a royal pain 02 that rick rack block tatting looks interesting *** Tatter is now known as Nita2 Well, the way I add threads running out of thread is no problem. 13New links?? 02WHOOPPEE it worked LOL Horray Nita2!!! 13And how do you add threads without all that weaving in of tails? I use a couple yards of thread at a time, which works fine. Ah, that's another story. Georgia, perhaps I could share that with the class sometime. 12Sometimes when you get knocked off you remain loged in and have to use a different name here's the note: Hello Tatters! The afternoon class studied the possible replacement of rick rack with a block tatted strip. What wonderful ideas they had. The two tatting pages from the Nufashond Rick Rack 2 booklet are now posted separately: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg23.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg24.jpg Ruth Perry's Block tatted rick rack pattern: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblocktattedrickrack.pdf A sample of block tatted rick rack from Wally Sosa http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/wallysosasamplerickracksubstitute.jpg I weave in only the ends at the start and end of the work, everything in between is no problemo 02ok thanks Sherong, glad to know that sure Ruth that would be a great lesson to share *** Tatter has joined #tatchat We'll find a date to do that. *** Tatter is now known as Winkerbill 12hi everybody! *** katia has joined #tatchat 12KatIA! HI! 04She's back!!! Steph!! glad to see you 13I hope I can attend that class. I HATE having a lot of tails to weave 12back and exhausted. If you look at the purple variegated collar in the green Celtic Tatting book, look for the dozens of places where I joined new thread in all over the piece! Hello Stepanie 12oh, man, am I glad to be back tin class. me too lol 12What has been going on that the room has been locked? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Georgia, We were worried that you were gone forever... there are 4 new links for tonights lesson *** Tatter is now known as CarolynG me too Ruth it was awful! hi ya Carolyn good to see you here I finally remembered to come to class. we are glad you did carolyn we have something new tonight 06AK can you post them for those of us who didn't get the e-mail? block tatted rickrack I told the class that all computer problems are hardware issues... Loose nut on the keyboard! LOL yes Cynthia there they are Hello Tatters! The afternoon class studied the possible replacement of rick rack with a block tatted strip. What wonderful ideas they had. The two tatting pages from the Nufashond Rick Rack 2 booklet are now posted separately: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg23.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg24.jpg Ruth Perry's Block tatted rick rack pattern: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblocktattedrickrack.pdf A sample of block tatted rick rack from Wally Sosa http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/wallysosasamplerickracksubstitute.jpg I'm coming to Hector G! 12That or a cat wonderful It will be good to see you See you in Hector! lol ruth how true 12Sounds like a lot of familiar faces will be there sherong we don't know what the problem was but the server was down 3 days also right during the special leap year day's event but all is well now I'm excited to be able to go. I feel all alone here sometimes. Georgia, I updated my MIRC before class, so now I can save a log if I need to. 13I'm jealous - too far for me to go. 04. 06me too sSharon Stitching Sharon, Sue Hanson is coming from the UK great ruth, I did get the log from the afternoon class but it is great to have abackup too 13But I am thinking hard about going to Palmetto. that is only one day's drive - and my son is in Charlotte NC sharon where are you? oh well that would be even better, palmettos is bigger event too 13Kentucky I don't think Palmettos is bigger... but it's probably close Where in KY? 13bigger? Will you be there? who else? I probably asked you that before sharon you better plan on coming to my house in Oct for the Lincoln Log Cabin Fall Festival. A bunch of us join Mark Myers and demonstrate 13Fleming County - they call it Northern KY. I work in Maysville I'm going to hectr or for certain 13Think I could convince my son to change his wedding date of 10/12? Yeah, G I think I'm signed up for your session. it is the first weekend of the month so no problem! 12No, just get there for Palmetto's and stay to help oh that's is great carolyn while we are chatting i have a question 13My calendar is getting full.... problem is I have to work every other weekend to your minds *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Sharon, we have a good tatting group in Cincinnati, Ohio is there any different in the tatted product which is called *** Tatter362 has joined #tatchat pearl tatted chains *** Tatter is now known as alphaprimavera from the product called maltese chains?? welcome paule 12Hi Paulie *** Tatter362 is now known as NancyCarol allo everyone 12Isn't Maltese all on one side? 12Purl on both sides Exactly! is there any difference in the tatted product which is formed huh....never thought about that. 05Hello folks! as a ring 12The look 12Ability to curve 13there are so many groups and gatherings I'd love to attend - too bad work gets in the way. are nt you supposed to tat over a biger thread for the padded chain? whether as a true ring or as a pearl tatted chain made into a scmr? not padded chain pearl tatted meaning ds and/pr picots/rings on both sides of the line of progression 12With waistbands on both sides pulls it straight, on one side pulls it curved 12I think the true rings look different from the SCMRs. Needle tatting is really SCMR isn't it? yes it is yes ruth 12padded chain can be over thicker thread or more than one strand of same size altho true ring is also possibly with needle tatting 12you can make true rings with the needle, though.... 12just have to add thread pretty often. that is if you dont know how to needle tat true rings so no matter whether made with shuttle or needle 06Thanks Georgia for the links I now have them printed off Must be, I can't seem to get the needle to bend into a circle whether as chain or as ring or as scmr pearl tatting still means the same as maltese tatting? everyone agrees? I'd agree. come to the beginner online class next week ruth ;) they leatn the true ring with the needle 12ummm...I think so.... does anyone need the four new links repeated? I will do that! 12i do. 12just a hair off 12somehow I only got two of them Always something to learn LOL! 12waistbands on different sides of core 05from your email? new links posted today in email right here is it Hello Tatters! The afternoon class studied the possible replacement of rick rack with a block tatted strip. What wonderful ideas they had. The two tatting pages from the Nufashond Rick Rack 2 booklet are now posted separately: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg23.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg24.jpg Ruth Perry's Block tatted rick rack pattern: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblocktattedrickrack.pdf A sample of block tatted rick rack from Wally Sosa http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/wallysosasamplerickracksubstitute.jpg 05ok 04c 06c so CArolyn, when you signed up for the class at Hector, listed as maltese tatting *** Tatter has joined #tatchat what did you anticipate we would do? *** Tatter797 has joined #tatchat welcome new tatters please join us in signing in I was thinking of some of the earlier classes and how to apply the tech to new stuff. *** Tatter797 is now known as Wally 12hi WAlly! GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA 12Hi Wally Hi Wally!!! Wally! *** Wally is now known as WallyHi *** WallyHi is now known as Wally OK THAT IS GOOD TO KNOW CAROYLN THANKS 12Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, columbia, Sc Hi everyone! WELCOME WALLY I GOT YOUR SAMPLE POSTED 12Stephanie W FINALLY home from NC! TATTER TO CHANGE YOUR NAME TYPE /NICK YOURNAME *** Tatter785 has joined #tatchat Wally SOsa, Egypt, needledreams@yahoo.com 04Cathy lucie296@yahoo.com south GA Katia Vallée, Sherbrooke, Québec,Canada,lady_elhasa@hotmail.com Carolyn Groves mdtatter@yahoo.com, frostburg, Md. 05NancyCarol Bhm Ala USA bookjazz at yahoo Ruth Perry Miamisburg, Ohio rjpoms at Yahoo dot com NANCY IS cAROL EITH YOU TONIGHT? 06Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK tattingalong@yahoo.com *** Tatter785 is now known as TatPat1 *** Robert has joined #tatchat I finihed it into a bookmark. :) HELLO all Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime @vl.videotron.ca COOL! SUPER WALLY 12the rickraCK? Cool! Hello Robert WELCOME ONE AND ALL Patsy A. Goodman, Chula Vista, CA, karpap@cox.net MARCH 3, 2008 PM SESSION OUR LINKS FOR TONIGHT ARE Hello Tatters! The afternoon class studied the possible replacement of rick rack with a block tatted strip. What wonderful ideas they had. The two tatting pages from the Nufashond Rick Rack 2 booklet are now posted separately: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg23.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg24.jpg Ruth Perry's Block tatted rick rack pattern: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblocktattedrickrack.pdf A sample of block tatted rick rack from Wally Sosa http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/wallysosasamplerickracksubstitute.jpg robert lee foster walnut ridge AR, USA docfoster7 at gmail.com Hello Katia Mine is sitting here on my desk, and with the two ends cut to about 1/2 inch it looks like a wiggly bug AK couldn't get Pg 23 & 24 to come up. AND THE ORIGINAL FULL BOOKLET http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2.pdf 12Rick Rack = pearl tatted chain with groups of 4ds on one side alternating sides? But need 2 shuttles DID EVERYONE ELSE GET PG 23 AND 24 SEPARETELY? 04yes 05yes 12yes Kept telling me wrong address PLEASE TRY AGAIN PATSY 13Sharon Fawns Hillsboro Kentucky USA stitchingsharon@hughes.net 06yes HERE THEY ARE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg23.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg24.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg23.jpg http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2/nufashondrickrack2pg24.jpg y Stitching Sharon, send me an email and I'll see if I can come down your way and tat with you sometime. It's not too far. 06try double click on the link IT IS SURPRISING WHAT ALL THEY MADE OUT OF RICK RACK BACK THEN. DID YOU ALL SEE THE DRESS? 12no, where is that> IT IS IN THE BOOKLET STEPH 06dress? the dress is so pretty! 12ok.... 04Saw it this afternoon. IN PIECEWORK MAGAZINE SHIRLEY MCELERRY SP?? *** Nita has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) GAVE A GREAT ARTICLE ON THE HISTORY OF RICK RACK FOR ITS 100TH BIRTHDAY 12double click if pop ups allowed 12you can enable popups for just this site 05The infant's dress on p19 on the pdf WE HAVE I NTHE PAST DONE TATTING WITH RICK RACK AND IT MAKES UP NICELY IF YOU USE A BOBBIN LACE PATTERN PRICKER TO PRICK THE HOLES IN THE POINTS OF THE RICK RACK . IT MAKES IT EASIER TO JOIN THE TATTING INTO IT 06c BUT OUR STUDY THIS SESSION didn't someone come up with some crocheted edgings to use as rick rack too? IS ABOUT BLCOK TATTING Hey the computer skipped p. «19! MANY EDGINGS IN CROCHET PAULE THE NUMBERS ARE OFF A BIT IN THE DOCUMENT I THINK THEY LEFT OUT THE INSIDE COVERS MAYBE IN THE DOCUMENT THE TATTING PAGES ARE 20 AND 21 IN THE BOOKLET THEY ARE NUMBERED PG 23 AND 24 It is the one calle Infant's dress? 05oops, it's actually p22 of pub, p19 of pdf SO LET'S LOOK AT THOSE TWO PAGES ok I got it! . THE QUESTION ARE WHETHER OR NOT WE COULD ADAPT BLOCK TATTING TO REPLACE THE RICK RACK AND TODAY'S AFTERNOON CLASS PROVED THAT IT IS POSSIBLE!! SO LOOKING AT THESE 4 EDGINGS AND TEH ROUND DOILY IT IS INDEED POSSIBLE TO MAKE THAT STRIP BLOCK TATTING IN FACT RUTH PERRY ACTUALLY GOT A PATTERN READY FOR US http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblocktattedrickrack.pdf AND WALLY HAS DONE A SIMILAR ONE AND WE HAVE A SAMPLE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/wallysosasamplerickracksubstitute.jpg LET'S LOOK AT RUTH'S PATTERN FIRST 04c . DID I READ THIS CORRECTLY RUTH? WE START WITH A ZIG ZAG CHAIN AND KEEP GOING UNTIL WE GET A GOOD LENGTH OF IT? yes MAKE IT AS LONG AS YOU WANT 12ummm...what's a zig zag chain? I JUST DID ENOUGH TO PROOVE THE CONCEPT 06"direct tatted" ? I'm missing something... OH HOLD ON CYNTHIA 06Ok . 06direct, like the 2nd part of the split ring What does (rds) mean? UNFLIPPED STITCHES LIKE THE SECOND HALF OF A SPLIT RING YOU BEGIN WITH TATTING A NUMBER OF REGULAR DS, 10 SAME THING, UNFLIPPED STITCHES 06ahha! THEN YOU STOP AND BEGIN WRAPPING 10 DS, NOT FLIPPPIN THE DS 06got it IN STEAD WRAPPING THEM "DIRECTLY" ONTO THE CORE THREAD, I.E. DIRECT METHOD 12that's a zig zag chAIn? normal tatting, then unflipped stitches, then NOrmal, then unflipped? 12I can do that. ;-) Got it. 05ok 12me too. THAT IS RIGHT STEPH ONLY THE NUMBER OF DS CHANGES . 12changes? 06the zig zag chain is my favorite to finish bookmarks 12it's not the same number for flipped and unflipped? THE NORMAL STITCHES HAVE THE KNOTS MADE FROM THE BALL THREAD, THE UNFLIPPED STITCHES ARE MADE USING THE SHUTTLE THREAD MORE OR FEWER DS TATTED/WRAPPED THE PATTERN WOULD TELL THE NUMBER OF DS REQUIRED AS I NRUTH'S SAMPLE HERE 10 DS 10 RDS I JUST DID 10 AND 10 12Ok, so the pattern would say how many of each you want to make.... 12got ya . c RIGHT 12brain (and everything else) is fried tonight, I think. THAT IS TO GIVE YOU ENOUGH TO DO THE JOINS ON THE NEXT ROWS 06c AND AT THE END OF THE ROW.. *** Robert has quit IRC (Quit: ChatZilla 0.9.81 [Firefox 2.0.0.12/2008020121]) YOU MAKE A PICOT WHEN YOU'RE TIRED OF DOING ZIG ZAG CHAIN, OR HAVE ENOUGH 12right. Got it. *** Tatter731 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter731 is now known as Robert wb robert 06wb robert 12wb robert AND START BACK THE OTHER WAY 05picot is just big enough to hook through? YOU JUST TAT A PICOT, THEN CONTINUE TATTING THE SAME STITCHES FOR THE ENTIRE NEXT ROW, EITHER FLIPPED OR UNFLIPPED 07thanks. ah the glories of computers JOINING PICOTS, JUST ENOUGH TO JOIN INTO LATER 13So if you were not sure of the length needed, you could use a different shuttle/ball for each row of zigzags? TELL ME ABOUT IT ROBERT LOL WHAT A TIME I HAD TODAY MU COMPUTER JUST PLAIN IGNORED ME! DIFFERENT COOR TWO SHARON COLOR 07yee haw 12Not three separate rows, one continous chain folded back on itself Something I don't undestand... 13neato! and just a tiny picot between each segment for the joins? THREE ROWS, JUST GO FROM ONE TO THE NEXT. NOT CUT AND TIE. OK THEN YOU JOIN BACK TO THE FIRST ROW AS YOU GO BACK ALONG THE CHAIN YE SPAULE? 12so if you wanted to ake the round doily.... 12maek 12So need the length on first row 12hehehe...make THE WHOLE IDEA WAS TO REPLICATE A CROCHETED RIPPLE AFGAN 06lol OH OH I'VE INFECTED YOU WITH TYPOESE 07very nice idea Ruth. I understand. 12would you do the zigzag chain as "rounds" or blocks? Sharon had a good question: what if you don't know what length you need? 12could do more than three rows ADD ON MORE LATER FIGURE IT OUT, OR JOIN ANOTHER SECTION MAKE IT SHORT LEAVE THE SHUTTLES ATTACHED I THINK IT WOULD BE EASY TO ADD LENGTH THEN ADDON WHAT IS NEEDED YEP SO EASY TO HIDE THE ENDS THERE 05So the zig-zig part is separate from the addon? WHAT DO YOU MEAN? 06if you're following a pattern, replacing the ric rac for the tatted one, count the "bumps" 07. 04c THE ZIG ZAG GIVES YOU THE MOUNTAINS, THE BLOCK PART IN THE NEXT TWO ROWS JUST GOES UP AND DOWN THE MOUNTAINS 06c *** Diana has joined #tatchat 07welcome Diane Hi RObert COUNT HOW MANY MOUNTAINS YOU NEED, AND MAKE YOUR ZIG ZAG CHAIN THAT LENGTH 12so it's pretty much "exactly" the way you'd do ripple crochet? Oh. I can do that. ;_) 07sorry Dina a 12cool.... hello diana NP :) 12So do partial length, tat edging onto it, work added needed length, repeat, when have total length PRETTY MUCH Hi KAtia, hope all is well 12do 2nd & 3rd rows rick rack? WELCOME DIANA PLS SIGN IN THE TWO JOINS AT THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAIN AND AT THE BOTTOM OF THE VALLEY GIVE YOU THE EQUIVALENT OF THE DECREASES AND INCREASES IN CROCHET THAT SEEMS RIGHT TO ME Diana Klinke, Indianapolis, IN. ladyhawke49@comcast.net OK DOES THAT MAKE SENSE TO EVERYONE NOW? 07brb I think. 13yes 12as much sense as it's gonna make until I've had some sleep. yes 06yes 12;-) THE STITCH COUNT IS 10, 10 IN THE FIRST ROW AND 9 +1 IN THE NEXT TWO ROWS NOTE THAT AT THE "BENDS" OF THE RICK RACK RUTH HAS MADE 1 DS A PICOT AND 1 DS 12right WALLY ARE YOU STILL AWAKE? SO... you just tat back and forth, no?... 06yep THANKYOU SO MUCH FOR WORKING THIS OUT RUTH OR UP AND DOWN PAULE IT'S AS FLEXIBLE AS REAL RIC RAC, AND WOULD WORK WELL FOR THE ROSES OR THE OTHER TATTING WITH RIC RAC 13increase at the peaks, skip 2 at the valleys? OK LET'S LOOK AT WALLY SAMPLE 12oh, I almost forgot about the roses. They were pretty BEAUTIFUL ROSES!!! THEY WERE NICE WEREN'T THEY? what is everyone looking at? Sorry I am late, school WE MUST TRY IT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/wallysosasamplerickracksubstitute.jpg DIANA WE JUST FINISHED LOOKING AT Well, I have to get ready to teach a tatting class in the morning, sorry to run out on you. It's been fun, bue! http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/ruthpblocktattedrickrack.pdf 12thanks Ruty 12Ruth THANKS RUTH night Ruth *** RuthPerry has quit IRC (Quit: ) 06Thnx ruth! 06thanks Ruth 13Thanks Ruth NOW WE WILL LOOK AT WALLT'S SAMPLE ty Georgia http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/wallysosasamplerickracksubstitute.jpg :) 05Wally you said something about rick rack and bookmarks 07y 06I have one on my web site 06got it up now 12can you give us the URL? OK WALLY 06http://needles-n-shuttles.com/ricracbook.html YOU HAVE ACTUALLY MADE A "BLOCK" INSTEAD OF A LONG CHAIN RIGHT? 05thanks 06yes. I made a mini-block 063 lines 06each with 10 ds OK THIS IS GOOD TOO *** Cynthia has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 07. *** Tatter715 has joined #tatchat 06THEN FOR THE "CUREVE" I ADDED 2 DS AND IT ALLOWS US TO MEASURE MORE EXACTLY WHAT IS NEEDED TATTER AND TATTER715 TO CHANG EYOUR NAME TYPE /NICK YOURNAME *** Tatter715 is now known as Cynthia 04. wb cynthia WB 06IF SOMETHING NEEDS TO BE JOINED TO THE CURVE THEN 1-1 IS DONE 06Sorry when I tried the link it zapped me off *** Robert has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12That's a really pretty bookmark Wally OK TAT 10 WRAP 10 TAT 10 WHICH SHUTTLES?? TAT CHAIN OF 2 PICOT AND BEGIN BLOCK AGAIN? 06THE RED IS THE BALL AND THE WHITE IS THE SHUTTLE STITCH SHUTTLES i MEANT SORRY OK 06ONE THE SAMPLE THE RED IS 1ST, THEN WHITE, THEN RED 13ohhhhhhh!! I was thinking you had several shuttles going. duh! *** CarolynG has left #tatchat 06THEN THE 2 DS ARE DIRECT AND CONTINUE WITH THE CHAIN TO MAKE THE 2ND BLOCK 06I see how that goes...nice OK ONLY 1 SHTL AND BALL OR 2 SHTLS *** Robert-S has joined #tatchat THIS IS MORE LIKE A REGULAR BLOCK 06i USED SHUTTLE AND BALL BECAUSE WAS THE 1ST THING I HAD HERE BESIDE THE PC . 12Ok, so Ruth's rickrack was a long zigzag chain then do the 2nd row and the 3rd row, Wally's is a series of blocks, right? yes stephanie 06YES RIGHT A DEFINITE DIFFERENCE IN TECHNIQUES *** Tatter530 has joined #tatchat 12got it! 06nice--2 techniques 12they both look good to me! 06similar look--very nice 06IT CAN BE MADE BIGGER AND THICKER BY ADDING DS AND LINES 05need to try out both now 06BUT ALWAYS IN ODD NUMBERS *** Tatter530 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06dedinately want to try them both--odd numbers? 13odd numbers? 12sure wish they still made coronation cord....wouldn't THAT be fun to play with.... 063 LINES, 5 LINES... THE BLOCK 12brb - phone YES WE MUST TRY OUT BOTH 123,,5 or 7 rows ~ 12so it ends opposite end it started from 06oh got it...makes sense my mind must be off tonight TO ADVANCE IN A LINE OF PROGRESSIO MUST BE ODD NUMBER ROWS EVEN NUMBER ROW MAKES YOU END WHERE YOU STARTED 05got it 12some blocks 3, some 7 WHICH IS OK IN SOME PATTERNS *** Tatter577 has joined #tatchat 12thick, thin cord 06ALSO THE COLOR (IF USING 2) THE POSITION CAN BE CONTROL BY A SLT 12thick, thin rick rack 06ok I was thinging along the length not within the block *** Tatter577 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12blocks don't have to be same length *** Tatter931 has joined #tatchat 12long block, short block, med block 06WILL HAVE TO CHECK A RIC RAC TO SEE HOW THICK THE BLOCKS SHOULD BE *** Tatter931 is now known as clesliea 06that could be fun 12"imitation" coronation cord? WELCOME CONNIE connie angeline atlantic city nj clesliea@aol.com 06definately hi welcome Clesliea OK QUESTIONS? 12rick rack comes in different widths WALLY YOUR PURPLE BOOKMARK IS BEAUTIFUL 06so can these 13I LOVE your bookmark Wally. How did you get the joins between tatting & fabric? SURE WE CAN ADD ROWS 06WITH A VERY FINE CROCHET HOOK OR CAN WE SHORTEN AND LENGTH THE ROWS AS WELL? 13OK!!! DROP A DS OR ADD A DS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? 12or two or six 05. LOL 06c IT SEEMS TO ME THAT BETWEEN THESE TWO TECHNIQUES WE CAN ADD A LOT OF TEXTURE TO OUR TATTING 06I PUT SOME FABRIC GLUE AT THE ENDS OF THE RIC RAC TO AVOID IT FROM UNRAVELING AND ALSO HELPS WITH THE MULTIPLE JOINS TO THE END We could use fine steel knitting needles for punching holes in the ric rac 06definately and lots of pretty changes I CAN SEE SO MANY POSSIBILITIES FOR BEADING ALSO *** Robert-S has quit IRC (Ping timeout) 05Oooo beads! I USE THE BOBBIN LACE PATTERN PRICKER TO PRICK HOLES IN HANKIES FOR JOINING THE TATTING 06gOTCHA WITH THE BEADS 13the wyat? 06WILL SEND THE PHOTO IN A MINUTE. :) 06OOHHHHHHH beads and blocks 13What? bobbin lace pricker? *** Robert-S has joined #tatchat 12i didn't know you did bobbin lace Georgia! The winged needle in a sewing machine is great for the hankie holes *** Nita2 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) . 05I check out a basic bobbin lace book just to see what happens. Not now, but maybe some day. There is a small group in Bham :) IT IS JUST A NEEDLE THING ON A CROCHET HANDLE SHARP DOES ANYONE RECALL THAT LESSON IN 2001 WE DID WITH CROCHETED BRAID AND TATTING 13like an awl? you can also use a sewing all (usually used for making eyelets) BY KIM MILLAR? 06Yes!!! 12don't think I've seen that lesson....yet.... HERE;S A PAGE FROM KIM http://www.geocities.com/kimmtats/cameobrooch/cameobroochpat.htm What has happened to Kim...have you heard Georgia? LOOK AT THE WHITE CROCHETED BRAID ?? ARE YOU THINKING WHAT i AM THINKING? 06block tatting or ric rac? . AND THIS COLLAR http://www.geocities.com/kimmtats/blossomtime/blossomtimepat.html NO I HAVENT HEARD DIRECTLY FROM KIM IN A WHILE 13crocheted braid woould sure go faster (for me) than tatting the ricrac I have a had a long day. See y'all next time around. Good nite. 12Nite Robert nite robert Night robert take care 05nite robt Night *** Robert-S has quit IRC (Quit: ) 04Nite. Robert nite 06bye robert 06G, sent you the photo with the beaded tatted ric rac OK WALLY AND JUST LOOK AT THIS HEART BY KIM http://www.geocities.com/kimmtats/loversknot/loversknot.html IS ANYONE INSPIRED YET?? I THINK THERE ARE A LOT OF POSSIBILITIES HERE 06I think you don't want me to go to sleep! lol lol wally LOL OK THAT MUST BE ENOUGH INSPIRATION FOR TONIGHT ANY QUESTIONS? 13gorgeous heart. wow!!!! ANY ANNOUNCEMENTS IT IS SUPER 06very pretty BTW I HOPE THAT SOME OF YOU ARE SIGNED UP FOR THE IOLI CONVENTION THIS YEAR 05love the heart Beginner class will have thereM&G this thursday at 9h pm NY time I HOPE TO HAVE SOME TATTERS IN CLASS THAT I KNOW FROM CLASS beautiful heart OH GREAT KATIA REMEMBER THE BEGINNERS CAN ALWAYS USE ENCOURAGEMENT SO STOP IN AND CHEER THEM ON 05Katia - I'll be there! IT IS AMAZING HOW MANY NEW TATTERS MIMI AND KATIA ARE PRODUCING ALREADY THIS YEAR *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 13I'll be there as often as I can THE CONVENTION IS IN ILLINOIS UP BY CHICAGO 06I had on the Spanish class 2 new tatters and they are from PR i'm anxious to know if i've made the cut for hector 06I plan to be there all welcome even for a refrsher or to learn needle tatting true ring ;) has anyone gotten confirmation yet NOT FAR FROM MY HOME SO LET ME KNOW YOU ARE GOING AND YOU CAN STOP BY AND VISIT ME ON THE WAY *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 05Georgia how far are you from Chicago? I HEARD THE CUT OFF WAS SATURDAY CONNIE 3 HOURS BY TRAIN TRAIN STOPS CLOSE BY ME TOO 05OK. Just wondered. I'll be in Chicago in May I CAN HEAR THE LONESOME WHISTLE BLOW AT NIGHT :) WEL LCOME ON DOWN! oh i meant the cut off for how many tatters they can accept IT IS AABOUT 418 ON THE AMTRAK ONE WAY is there a link for the convention information? YES THERE IS DIANA 05That would be fun! And I'll see you in March in ATL NO I DIDN'T HEAR ABOUT THAT CONNIE RIGHT ON! IO'LL GET THE LINK DIANA BRB ty Georgia 13At these gatherings, are there vendors? thread & shuttles for sale? yes alot of them Sharon 12Yes 06c 13Palmetto here I come! It's so hard to choose thread on line. Too many vendors, not enough time. LOL so true Pat 13Probably not enough money either! 06checkbooks are dangerous in the vendors area. :P 12So are credit cards 12you never get the "REAL" color looking at a screen instead of looking at the thread. 13Better start saving now! 05I kept going back to vendor area so that each check or charge was not a lot wally are you coming to any conventions in the states this year i'd love to meet you in person Spokane, is my destination in April. your tatting is awesome 06I wish but they're too near my traveling dates sorry to hear that 06I'll be traveling to PR on march 11 and returning in october *** Cathy has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06may be I can go to palmetto 05That would be GREAT 05That's my birthday present again this year http://www.landoflincolnlacemakers.com THERE YOU ARE Thank you Georgia! 06is there any tatting event during the summer? went to my first tat days this year it was great to meet all the tatters I'GOING TO MISS SPOKANE THIS YEAR BUT IT IS MY YEAR FOR HECTOR that i have admired on line GOOD TO SEE YOU TOO:) 06i'm dieing to go to Hector! WALLY IOLI IS FIRST WEEK OF AUGEST OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? Paule es tu au courrant qu il y a une journee dentelliere a nicolet ? MANY THANKS TO RUTH PERRY AND WALLY SOS A FOR SHARING THEIR WORK WITH US 05Good here! Thanks to Wally, Ruth, and Georgia! thanks wally 06will chack if I can make it. 12thanks Wally THANKS TO AL LOF YOU FOR STOPPING BY 06thanx you all for the inspiration 06Thank you Wally, Ruth, and Georgia It's been fun, hope to see you next time. Nite. 13thanks for the lesson and inspiration. I'll see you all again soon. Good night. AND MAKING THIS A REALLY EDUCTIONAL EVENING 12Thanks Georgia. *** StitchingSharon has left #tatchat GOOD NIGHT ALL AND HAPPY TATTING Session Close: Mon Mar 03 20:35:37 2008