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Session Start: Fri Feb 29 13:36:44 2008
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<BJs> 05Hey Teach!
<AKTATTER> hello early birds!
<Marie> 06Hey Georgia
<TineHi> No in the night I am sleeping 
<AKTATTER> I am so glad the room is open.
<LindaB> 10hi Georgia.
<BJs> 05we get a worm?
<TineHi> Hi Georgia
<BJs> 05me too
<AKTATTER> ok Tine, you're a night owl
<Marie> 06We have been her maybe 45 min
<BJs> 05nothing like being eager beavers
<AKTATTER> ok you keep the room open while I go check and see if the info got posted
<LindaB> 10I've been here 10 mins. or so...was afraid I wouldn't be able to get in.
<AKTATTER> the server was still down this am
<LindaB> 10kk
<AKTATTER> brb
<BJs> 05yes mam
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Session Start: Fri Feb 29 13:52:18 2008
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<BJs> 05Teach is back!  
<LindaSDavies> does anyone know what we are discussing tonight?
<Liz> BJ, the are the little ones you hold in one hand and move the yarn aorund the top,
<BJs> 05oh ok  gottcha
<Liz>  and pull the round tube thru the bottom.
<LindaB> 10ideas for classes for this year.
<Tine> Yes beverly
<Marie> 06We call them something else. Maybe knitty noddy or something like that?
<LindaB> 10knitting Nancy is another name for them....
<LindaSDavies> We call it cork wool
<Liz> No, knitty noddies are for measuring spun yarn on.
<BJs> 05I've seen them in a catalogue I used to rec with wooden toys for children
<Tine> Yes there are sevral names for it
<Tine> we said punnikklosjes
<Liz> HUH!
<Tine> Yes
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/public_html/coronationcordbook/cover.gif
<LindaSDavies> punnikklosjes that's a good one
<AKTATTER> would someone check if that link works please?
<AKTATTER> brb
<BJs> 05spell that phonetically  pun nik los what?
<Liz> going there now
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<Tine> Yes BJ
<LindaSDavies> not working for me AK
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<LindaB> 10not working for me either..... :o(
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<LindaSDavies> Hi Nancy
<AKTATTER> please remove the _html and try again 
<Liz> not me either
<Tine> Hi Nancy
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<LindaSDavies> Hi Laura
<NancyCarol> Hey Everybody.  I'm SO happy the classroom is open today!
<LindaB> 10yes, that works.
<Laura> 13Hi Linda
<Tatter> nick/ BJs
<LindaB> 10hi Laura
<Marie> 06It did not work for me
<AKTATTER> ok !
<NancyCarol> 12Did you just send a link?
<AKTATTER>  http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/public/coronationcordbook/page1.gif
<Laura> 13Hi everybody.  I'm glad it's open today too.
<LindaB> 10http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/cover.gif
<AKTATTER> ok there are 20 pages plus the cover posted
<Tatter> 10I couldn't get their either
<LindaB> 10this is what worked for me, Georgia
<Tatter> 05.
<AKTATTER> change page1.gif to page2.gif etc.
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<AKTATTER> Linda?
<LindaSDavies> the LindaB link worked for me
<Liz> It is loading for me now
<AKTATTER> ok
<Tine> welcome back BJ
<AKTATTER>  http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page1.gif  etc.
<BJs> 05I'll look later...I was kicked off when  I went to look  
<AKTATTER> ok this book was posted as a special treat for today's special event
<LindaB> 10which Linda...you have two today
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<AKTATTER> there is another I'll go get it
<BJs> 05Hi Mimi
<Liz> OHHH, this looks very interesting!!
<BJs> 05I'm in the fog  lol
<LindaSDavies> Hi Mimi
<Liz> Hi Mimi
<Mimi> HEllo, glad to be here
<Liz> It is snowing here again!
<BJs> 05Missed you last night
<Laura> 13That does look very interesting.  I am printing on other computer.
<Mimi> Sorry, was out to dinner with my folks (in Texas)
<Tine> If i open de link I cant be on chat
<BJs> 05class room was closed anyway  
<LindaSDavies> me too Tine
<BJs> 05me too, Tine
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<LindaSDavies> Hi DorcasAnn
<Tine> Hi Dorcas Ann
<BJs> 05Hi DA
<Laura> 13Hi DorcasAnn
<DorcasAnn> Hello, everyone
<Marie> 06Still cannot get it to open
<DorcasAnn> Is there a lesson for today?
<Marie> 06Hi Dorcas
<DorcasAnn> Hi, Marie
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d603fig1.jpg
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<BJs> 05c
<Laura> 13Well, I thought I was going to print on other printer.  It isn't coming thru
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d603fig2.jpg
<NancyCarol> 12I finally got it to open with Safari.  Firefox wasn't in the mood.
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d603figa.jpg
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d603figb.jpg
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<NancyCarol> 12How many pages are there?
<LindaSDavies> Those 2 links did not work for me
<Laura> 13Hi Lady ShuttleMaker
<BJs> 05Hi LSM
<LadyShuttleMaker> Hi all!
<LindaSDavies> Hi LSM
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d859fig2.jpg
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d859figc.jpg
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d859figd.jpg
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sheron/delineator/d859fige.jpg
<LindaSDavies> still not working
<AKTATTER> Linda did you get that link to work?
<LindaB> 10Georgia, I'm getting not found for the last two links?
<Liz> I only got the cover page
<Mimi> Are too many of us trying to hit these links at once? I'm not getting in either.
<Marie> 06Not found here, too
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<AKTATTER> ok what am I typing wrong
<Marie> 06Hi 'gin Dorcas
<AKTATTER> it is the same folder as  http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/cover.gif
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<AKTATTER> but the folder is delineator instead of the coronationcordbook
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<Marie> 06Hi 'gin BJ
<AKTATTER> and the files are those numbers instead of the page.gif
<BJs> 05:>)
<LindaB> 10http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page5.gif  this was page 5 for me...
<AKTATTER> as you all know the server was down for 2-3 days and it stopped in the middle of the transfers
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<Tine> Georgia I cannot open the link
<AKTATTER> so I don't know exactly what made it correctly or not
<LindaSDavies> got that one LindaB
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<AKTATTER> ok well I am stumped
<BJs> 05Hi Jane!
<LindaSDavies> Hi Jane
<DorcasAnn> Hi, Jane
<JaneEb> Am I late?
<AKTATTER> gosh the room filled up while I was at the server
<Tine> HI Jane
<BJs> 05Old Home Week   
<BJs> 05nah
<Laura> 13I can't get it
<JaneEb> Wotcha me old muckers.  Hi AKA!!
<LindaB> 10some of us have just been here visiting for a while....
<Laura> 13but I did get to see it 
<BJs> 05quite a while   LOL
<Liz> Hi Jane!
<Laura> 13Hi JaneEb
<DorcasAnn> I can't get it either
<LindaSDavies> can you still get coronation cord?
<Mimi> That's a lot of coronation cord (thanks Linda for the page 5 link, I changed the 5 to other numbers and saw other pages)
<JaneEb> Hey, I'm not missing Corrie for tatting!!
<NancyCarol> 12coronation cord is behaving for me on Safari still.
<Marie> 06Hi Jane, my hero
<Liz> OOOH, I got page 5
<LindaB> 10yes, that's what I did to get it..Mimi
<JaneEb> Marie - yer a daft old moo
<NancyCarol> 12Amazing stuff!
<Mimi> True, I went to Firefox and got it..
<AKTATTER> ok then perhaps we can try these links later and they will work.
<AKTATTER> I will add them tot he class index page also
<Laura> 13Thank you AK
<Tine> ok
<BJs> 05good  'cause no luck here  Thanks 
<Tine> thanks
<AKTATTER> Mimi you got a couple of new tatters for the class next week
<Mimi> What's on the Delineator pages I wonder?
<NancyCarol> 12Are the delineator files different?
<AKTATTER> I'll go look
<LindaB> 10and I'm using Firefox as well.
<Liz> How many pages did Georgia say there should be?
<LindaB> 1020
<Liz> I am on IE
<BJs> 05I've been trying to get Kris into Beginners'  but taking care of Lori kind of tired her out and now her husband is being a jerk
<Liz> Oh, that many, huh
<Mimi> Kris will start tatting when it's good for her I'm sure
<AKTATTER> the delineator pages are just a series of diagrams for patterns taken from the delineator
<LindaSDavies> too bad BJ
<BJs> 05That is a lot of pages   with dial up will take forever
<BJs> 05Yes, she is going to Spokane with us - 
<Mimi> Are they gifs instead of jpegs?
<LindaB> 10http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Delineator
<AKTATTER> the coronationa cord book is online with every original page of it
<LindaB> 10is this the delineator that we are talking about?
<Liz> Changing the page numbers is working
<AKTATTER> teh coronation bord pages are gif
<AKTATTER> yes that old magazine
<Tine> ok
<BJs> 05ok
<BJs> 05will try later
<Mimi> Hey Sherry
<Tine> me to
<Marie> 06I got page 5 finally
<AKTATTER> the Nufashond Rickrack book is also up but will not show itself to me yet
<AKTATTER> and the Emma Farnes #1 a few pages are posted
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Hi Mimi!!!
<LindaSDavies> ooh I've just realised how to change the page number
<Mimi> I'm in Texas right now, can't wait to see my mail when I get back Monday :)
<LindaSDavies> I'm a bit slow at times!
<Marie> 06Hi Mimi
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02:)
<LindaB> 10http://www.knitting-and.com/crochet/1916-crochet-book/index.html the nushond rickback book is here too
<AKTATTER> the entire Home Needlework book 1917 is now posted
<AKTATTER> good to know Linda
<Tine> ok
<Mimi> Ohhh
<Laura> 13I got it!
<Liz> That could be dangerous for me
<AKTATTER> I got 8 issues of Home Needlework magazine tatting pages only posted
<LindaB> 10http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/nufashondrickrack2.pdf
<AKTATTER> Florence Hartley 1859
<LindaB> 10this is the nufashon rickrack on your website Georgia
<AKTATTER> it only had 6 pages of tatting
<AKTATTER> yes Linda therickrack book is there but I cant' get it to show yet
<LindaB> 10oh it's working for me on Firefox browser.....
<Marie> 06Hi Nancy and Sherry
<NancyCarol> 12Hey Marie!
<AKTATTER> Madame Goubard 1880 7 pages
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Hi Marie!
<AKTATTER> it looks to me like Madame G lifted at least one pattern from Mlle Riego!
<LindaSDavies> I can load all of the links that LindaB has given
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02ditto
<LindaB> 10that's good...I'm glad to hear..thank you for telling me.
<Mimi> I got to the rick rack book too - tatting is at the end (of the 10.5 meg, don't go there dial uppers)
<NancyCarol> 12OK Firefox is behaving on the rick rack now
<AKTATTER> the Manning Handbook of Needlework 1910 pages 43-46 were the only tatting pages
<Liz> Thank you for the worning, Mimi
<Tine> ok
<NancyCarol> 12LOTS of good stuff out there.
<AKTATTER> what is a dial upper?
<Liz> Too much
<AKTATTER> you mean dial up[ connection !
<BJs> 05Yes
<LindaSDavies> someone without broadband
<BJs> 05back in the stone age   it's New Mexico folks
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02LOL BJ
<Mimi> That's ok BJ... but in Texas even they have it ;)
<Liz> Those of us that live WAY out in noman's land
<Tine> Haha BJ
<BJs> 05NM is a 3d wld country  
<AKTATTER> and Star Needle work JOurnal 6 pages
<AKTATTER> I have posted about 18 items that are new I think
<BJs> 05goody
<AKTATTER> just have to work out the kinks in the links
<Liz> it's West Virginia also.
<Laura> 13I'm glad all of this will be in the notes
<LindaSDavies> Has anyone proposed today?
<BJs> 05that rhyms  kinks  links
<AKTATTER> oh we didn't sign in!
<AKTATTER> GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA
<NancyCarol> 12NancyCarol Bhm Ala
<Tine> no we did not
<Laura> 13lblanton2750@charter.net
<JaneEb> Not blooming likely - I LOVE living in sin!!!  No proposals ever!!
<BJs> 05beverly june davis  Silver City New Mexico  BJs beeloyal1@aol.com
<LindaSDavies> Linda S Davies Stoke-on-Trent, England
<Laura> 13USA
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Sherry Pence, Ladyshuttlemaker@hotmail.com, Boise Id
<AKTATTER> jANE!!!
<Tine> Tine Vedder from the Netherlands
<Liz> Elizabeth Posey, weaver_wool@yahoo.com West Virginia
<JaneEb> Jane Eborall in the back of beyond wherever!!
<LindaB> 10linda barnes woodbridge, va, usa  lingram2@comcast.net
<DorcasAnn> Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, In, USA
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<Marie> 06Marie Smith Anderson SC  tattingwithmarie@yahoo.com
<BJs> 05just don't get in back of a hippo!
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Are you feeling better Laura??
<Laura> 13Yes, much better thank you
<JaneEb> Hey, BJ you'll love what I'm up to now!!!
<BJs> 05hummmm 
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Hi Jane!
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<Cynthia> Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater OK tattingalong@yahoo.com
<AKTATTER> OK WHAT i HAD HOPED TO DO TODAY
<BJs> 05Dare I ask, What?
<LindaSDavies> Hi Cynthia
<JaneEb> Hey, Sherry!
<Tine> Hi Cinthia
<AKTATTER> BESIDES SHARING THE NEW PUBLIC DOMAIN ITEMS
<Marie> 06Hi Cynthia
<JaneEb> Ask but I'm not telling!!
<Liz> Jane, you are being bad agsain
<AKTATTER> WAS TO LOOK AT THE CORONATION CORD BOOKLET PAGE 4
<BJs> 05oh you!
<Cynthia> Hi everyone
<NancyCarol> 12Hey Cynthia
<AKTATTER> BUT IT SOUNDS LIKE NOT EVERYONE WILL BE ABLE TO DO THAT
<BJs> 05just describe it - and I'll visualize  
<Tine> Yes me to
<Cynthia> me too
<LindaSDavies> Ok AK I've got page 4
<Laura> 13me too
<NancyCarol> 12got it
<Liz> I'am working on it
<Mimi> You mean http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page4.gif
<AKTATTER> SHALL WE GIVE IT A TRY THEM?
<Marie> 06Not me :-(
<AKTATTER> THEN?
<Laura> 13yes
<LindaSDavies> what are we going to try?
<BJs> 05go for it
<Liz> It is looking very interesting
<AKTATTER> THE PAGE 4 OF THE CORONATION BOOKLET
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Whoo hoo!
<AKTATTER> IF YOU LOOK AT THE EDGE NUMBER 5
<AKTATTER> HOW COULD WE DO THAT IN TATTING??
<Cynthia> printing it
<BJs> 05very carefully?
<AKTATTER> WHAT I SEE IS A LINE OF SPLIT RINGS
<LindaSDavies> OK
<AKTATTER> WITH A LINE OF PEARL TATTING CHAINS ON EITHER SIDE?
<Liz> there are 4 of them with the number 5
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<AKTATTER> WHCIH JOIN TO THE SPLIR RINGS
<Tine> Nice
<LindaSDavies> yes I see 4 as well
<Mimi> Ah, you mean the top one made from size 5
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<AKTATTER> RIGHT HAS THE NUMBER 5 ON THE LEFT THE TOP EDGING
<AKTATTER> LATECOMERS PLEASE SIGN IN
<Liz> do you mean the one that is the at the bottom?
<Mimi> Mimi Dillman, Sun City TX ntrop@ix.netcom.com
<StitchingSharon> Sharon Fawns Hillsboro Kentucky -- late, sorry
<AKTATTER> THE PATTERN AT THE BOTTOM TO ME COULD BE A VARIATION OF THE TOP ONE
<AKTATTER> HERE THERE IS A LINE OF PEARL TATTED CHAINS
<Tine> o
<AKTATTER> ON THE TWO SIDES
<Laura> 13I see which one you are talking about now and I do see split rings
<NancyCarol> 12I'm confused.  there are five edgings, 4 with 5s out to left
<LindaB> 10yes, in one of them the rings are laying on their sides
<Cynthia> 05Looks like it is to me
<AKTATTER> BUT A PEARL TATTED CHAIN WITH REGULAR RINGS THROWN OFF IN THE CENTER
<AKTATTER> ON THE PAGE 4
<AKTATTER> THE TOP AND THE BOOTTOM EDGINGS
<LindaB> 10kk
<AKTATTER> OK ON THE BOTTOM EDGING THE CENTER LINE THROWS OFF OPPOSING RINGS
<BJs> 05c
<AKTATTER> THOSE RINGS JOIN TOT HE PEARL TATTED CHAINS
<Tine> nice
<AKTATTER> THERE IS A LITTLE DESIGN BETWEEN THE RINGS
<LindaSDavies> I thought coronation cord was no longer available
<AKTATTER> THAT COULD ME PICOTS
<Cynthia> 05beautiful
<DorcasAnn> I got some at IOLI in Denver
<AKTATTER> THAT IS THE POINT LINDA YOU NAMED IT
<AKTATTER> IT IS BECAUSE THE CORONOATION CORD IS NOT AVAILABLE
<DorcasAnn> It was old
<AKTATTER> EXCEPT AS ANTIQUE THREAD AS 9 $ YEARD
<AKTATTER> BUT THAT DOESN'T MEAN WE CAN'T UTSE THESE OLD PATTERNS
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<AKTATTER> IF WE LOOK AT THE PATTERSN 
<Tine> yes we can
<AKTATTER> AS WE JUST LOOKED AT THE TOP AND BOTTOM EDGING ON PAGE 4
<AKTATTER> YOU CAN BEGIN TO SEEN SUBSTITUTIONS
<LindaB> 10so you're saying instead of the coronations cord we are making splitrings?
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<AKTATTER> RIGHT LINDA
<LindaB> 10kk
<SueH> Hi all :-)
<LindaSDavies> Hi Sue
<LindaB> 10hi Sue
<Laura> 13Hi Sue
<Tine> Hi sue
<NancyCarol> 12Hey Sue
<BJs> 05Hey Sue
<AKTATTER> NOW LOOK AT THE SECOND EDGING FROM THE TOP
<Cynthia> 05Oh how was corronation cord different from threads we can get now?
<AKTATTER> THIS ONE IS DIFFERENT
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02hiya sue
<LindaB> 10kk
<AKTATTER> IT WAS MADE FAT AND SKINNY IN PLACES
<LindaSDavies> it is different thicknesses along the thread
<Marie> 06Hi Sue!
<SueH> Corronation cord runs from thin to fatter - like a curve in a standard way...
<AKTATTER> SO IT BEND AND COULD BE JOINED IN PATTERNS
<Cynthia> 05oh that makes sense
<SueH> Look at the fromt of the Suanders book (Dover)
<BJs> 05y
<AKTATTER> NOW MIMI MAYBE YOU CAN SEE WHAT I SEE IN THE SECOND PATTERN FROM THE TOP?
<SueH> Please can I have the link?
<AKTATTER> AND LOOK AT HOW AWFUL THAT DOUTACHE BRAID THEY ADDED IN THAT DOILY LOOKS
<Mimi> Don
<Mimi> Don't do it Georgia!!
<LindaB> 10http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page4.gif
<AKTATTER> YES YES!!!
<AKTATTER> A LINE OF CLUNY LEAVES!!
<AKTATTER> SEE IT???
<Mimi> Clunies as sub for coronation cord - caution!!
<Mimi> I told you my story about that, didn't I/
<NancyCarol> 12I saw tht coing!
<AKTATTER> A LINE OF PEARL TATTED CHAIN
<AKTATTER> THEN A LINE OF CLUNY LEAVES
<AKTATTER> WHICH JOIN TO THE CHAIN'S ONE SIDE
<LindaSDavies> wow!
<Tine> a nice
<Mimi> In a straight edging, it's probably not too overwhelming
<Laura> 13you are going to force me to learn clunys
<AKTATTER> NOW THERE IS MORE DECORATION
<Mimi> Caution when doing a doily that gets bigger and bigger with each round
<AKTATTER> RIGHT LAURA
<Mimi> Unless you *really* want to make a lot
<AKTATTER> TRUE MIMI CLUNY LEAVES SHOULD BE USED IN MODERATION
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02You'll love clunies Laura
<Mimi> Make sure it's an inner round ;)
<LindaB> 10where is the doily that you speaking of???
<AKTATTER> BUT FOR A LITTLE EDGING?? IT WOULD WORK
<Mimi> It's in one of the Priscilla books
<LindaB> 10oh ok
<Mimi> Cant' remember which one 
<BJs> 05Ah I'm learning Cluny from Mimi in Spokane   yeah
<AKTATTER> WE MENTIONED THE DOILY ONTHE COVER OF A DOVER BOOK BY SANDERS TOO
<Mimi> Yes you are!
<NancyCarol> 12Lucky BJ
<Mimi> I'll show you the doily then BJ
<AKTATTER> OK EXAMINE THE MIDDLE EDGING ON PAGE 4
<Mimi> I always tell the coronation cord story
<SueH> k
<BJs> 05yes blessed be
<AKTATTER> PLEAS DO MIMI
<SueH> 05checking me colour...
<Mimi> I had a ball of LBH thread - teal green, beautiful
<SueH> 05,05...
<AKTATTER> K
<Mimi> That book with the coronation cord
<Cynthia> 05c
<Mimi> and your idea
<Mimi> the first round of subs was fine
<Mimi> although that twisty, twisty thread was a bear for closing clunies
<BJs> 05.
<Mimi> but after 16 I was OK
<Mimi> next round of clunies
<Mimi> had 32 leaves to do
<NancyCarol> 12Wish I could be in Spokane.
<Mimi> it took awhile too
<AKTATTER> OH OH
<Mimi> but I still didn't notice
<Mimi> Can you tell how many were in the 3rd round??
<Mimi> 16, 32....
<AKTATTER> OH GOSH
<BJs> 05ewww a lot of clunies
<Cynthia> 0564?
<NancyCarol> 12Yikes!!
<Tine> yes
<Mimi> You got it Cynthia
<Laura> 13shoot me now!
<Mimi> I wondered why, after a week of 1+hour drives
<SueH> 05,05Mimi can so Cluny in her sleep!  LOL
<Mimi> in the carpool
<Mimi> that I was only 1/2 way around!!
<Mimi> Well, 
<BJs> 05LOL
<SueH> 05,05check
<Mimi> when I counted tha the next round was going to have 128
<Mimi> I decided it looked just fine as a small one at 64 thank you very much
<Mimi> The end :)
<Cynthia> 05eeeeeeeeeeeeeeekkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk I'd give up and redesign it
<BJs> 05I guess
<Tine> o
<NancyCarol> 12Sue - I'm not seeing your comments --- just seeing solid brown rectangles?
<SueH> 00,05Mimi can do Cluny in her sleep
<Cynthia> 05wise tatterm Mimi
<SueH> 00,05It's gone strange
<BJs> 05I thought perhaps Sue's remarks were x-rated  LOL
<LindaSDavies> you are typing in negative Sue
<LindaB> 10this has some clear pictures of the book your are mentioning, Georgia
<SueH> 08,05Try again
<Mimi> But it's still a great idea, subbing clunies in moderation
<BJs> 05She has back ground color instead of fore ground
<NancyCarol> 12OK Now I can read them.  Must have some highlighting on
<SueH> 08,05OK
<AKTATTER> LOL THAT'S OUR SUE!
<Tine> clunies are difficult 
<SueH> 13,05OOO I give up...
<BJs> 05not good
<Cynthia> 05interesting effect color and color
<AKTATTER> OK CAN WE TRY ANTHER PAGE?
<AKTATTER> You mean http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page5.gif
<LindaSDavies> that'sa pretty colour Sue
<Mimi> please
<Cynthia> 05yes
<Laura> 13sure
<BJs> 05Sue click on the top little "a"
<SueH> 13,05Don't ask how it happened - I don't know... :-?
<JaneEb> I once made that doilly with the cord in that's on that Dover book.  Probably still got it somewhere!
<BJs> 05Not the bottom yellow one
<SueH> 13,05OK thanks
<SueH> 13,05No didn't work...
<SueH> 13,05...
<Tine> ..
<SueH> 13,05...
<BJs> 05test
<SueH> 00,05testing
<Marie> 06I am laughing so hard I cannot type!!!!!
<BJs> 05I will void in my Depends
<Tine> ojeeeeeee 
<LindaSDavies> not to worry Sue, we still love you!
<SueH> 00,05I am clicking on the top one
<JaneEb> Could you use a braid like wot I make for my bracelets for a Coronation cord, do you think?
<SueH> 00,05now I am underlied!  Ekkk
<AKTATTER>  THIN WE COUDL JANE
<NancyCarol> 12Will all this be preserved for all time in the logs?!!
<AKTATTER> CAN YOU LINK US TO A PHOTO??
<BJs> 05Well underline not bad
<AKTATTER> UNFORTUNATELY YES NANCY
<BJs> 05That is the bottom A   my bad
<AKTATTER> HAS EVERYONE SEEN PAGE 5 YET?
<NancyCarol> 12got it
<Cynthia> 05yes I got it
<Mimi> Got page 5
<BJs> 05n
<LindaSDavies> yes AK
<Laura> 13I can't wait to print this out!
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02yep
<Tine> n
<AKTATTER> OK LOOK AT THE MIDDLE EDGING
<Liz> no!
<StitchingSharon> 06no
<AKTATTER> NO CLUNY LEAVES THERE
<Mimi> Aw
<Tine> n
<AKTATTER> I SEE ONLY SPLIT RINGS
<Cynthia> 05there are 4
<AKTATTER> WITH REGULAR RINGS THROWN OFF OPPS=IOSING SIDES
<LindaSDavies> which is the middle out of 4
<SueH> 05,05could be a bit of block tatting though?
<AKTATTER> OOPS
<AKTATTER> SECOND FROM BOTTOM
<LindaSDavies> OK
<AKTATTER> THIRD FROM TOP
<JaneEb> IF you made a braid like this http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/braid.htm and shape it which is easy then that coulcd replicate a Corrie cord.
<LindaSDavies> very pretty
<Laura> 13beautiful
<SueH> 03,05maybe a bit of block tatting?
<BJs> 00ccc
<Tine> .
<SueH> 13,05v
<Liz> This log is going to go down in history!!
<BJs> 05c
<Cynthia> 05it could be a challenge but fun to do with blcok
<Marie> 06I think SCMR with thrown off rings
<SueH> 00,05GGGGGGGGGGGGGGgggggggggggggggggggggggggggrrrrrrrr
<AKTATTER> YEP JUST LIKE THE TITANIC
<AKTATTER> OH SURE MARIE COUDL DO
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02That's what I was thinking Marie
<Liz> HAHAHAHAHA! I got to go, be right back
<AKTATTER> BUT WHAT ABOUT THE OUTER EDGE
<Cynthia> 05I was afraid I would be so lat I'd miss all the fun
<Liz> at least BJ has her Depends
<SueH> 05,05I am so very sorry
<BJs> 05lol  like the lady astronaut
<AKTATTER>  5 SCMR CONNECTIN THE A PICOT ON THE RINGS?
<LindaSDavies> is Sue being censored
<SueH> 05,05I am so very sorry
<LindaB> 10rofl
<Cynthia> 05split rings and rings?
<BJs> 05drives my daughter crazy
<NancyCarol> 12Will Sue's censored comments be revealed in the log?
<SueH> 00,05I am so very sorry (third try at apologising!
<AKTATTER> ALL IS PUBLIC LOL
<Liz> I'am laughing so hard I can't see the monitor!
<BJs> 05NAH YOU ARE NOT  LOL  ROTFLMYO
<LindaSDavies> take more water with it girl!
<AKTATTER> BUT WHAT IF THOSE OUTWRAD FACINF RINGS/SCMRS
<LindaB> 10I'm about to "wet" myself...
<Marie> 06Have picots on sides of SCMR, then chain down to them
<AKTATTER> HAD 5 PICOTS
<Liz> Sue, it is okay, I needed a good laugh today
<AKTATTER> AND WHAT IF THEY WERE DAISY PICOTS
<SueH> 00,05How did yer know I had a drop of Kentucky?
<Tine> .
<AKTATTER> YOU WOULD HAVE EACH RING CROWNED BY A DESIGN
<BJs> 05lol  toddy for the body?
<AKTATTER> NOW LOOK AT THE BOTTOME EDGING
<Laura> 13SCMR's with thrown off rings and daisy picots?
<Cynthia> 05I need a mini lessor on daisy picots
<AKTATTER> DOES ANYONE SEE A CONNECTION TO OUR ONGOING TOPIC OF STUDY HERE?
<SueH> 00,05I go with Laura
<Cynthia> 05thick and thin?
<Tine> n
<BJs> 05dense element
<Mimi> block tatting
<LindaSDavies> block tatting/clunies
<AKTATTER> YES THAT IS WHAT I SAW ALSO
<Liz> I forgot what page 5 was, had it here in front of me, I was looking all over IE for it.
<LindaB> 10you're are using different techniques to replace the coronation cord?
<SueH> 13,05Hope this is it
<AKTATTER> BLOCKS ON THE OUTSIDE ATTACHING TO RINGS ON THE INSIDE
<NancyCarol> 12Yeah, I see some little blocks
<Mimi> Or the crocheting, Linda
<BJs> 05Sue is in the pink
<AKTATTER> PERHAPS ANOTHER PEARL TATTED CHAIN AS THE HEADER
<AKTATTER> RIGHT LINDA
<LindaB> 10k
<Cynthia> 05c
<BJs> 05k
<SueH> 13,05I'd start with the header then attach the design
<AKTATTER> NOW WHAT ABOUT THE TOP TWO EDGINGS
<AKTATTER> DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY IDEAS?
<LindaB> 10don't you think the headers are crocheted though?
<Tine> n
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02more clunies?
<AKTATTER> BUT WE ARE SUBSTITUTING PEARL TATTED CHAISN FOR THE CROCHETED HEADERS
<LindaB> 10sorry, ok
<Laura> 13find something more simple to do?  LOL
<BJs> 05encapsulate?
<SueH> 13,05Yes & No...  Riego had some pearl headers
<Cynthia> 05but more fun
<Mimi> I see them in the 2nd one Sherry, connecting the sets of 4 rings
<AKTATTER> i CAN SEE A LINE OF CLUNY LEAVES IN THE SECOND EDGE FROM THE TOP
<AKTATTER> WITH TWO RINGS THROWN OFF ON EITHER SIDE
<Liz> Me too
<Tine> o
<SueH> 13,05They are almost angels dancing in no 2
<AKTATTER> BUT THE TOP EDGING HAS ME STUMPED
<AKTATTER> THERE IS SO MUCH CROCHET IN IT
<SueH> 13,05Rings done like Mary did, carrying the thread up behind?
<Liz> Cluny on their sides?
<SueH> 13,05can folks read me?
<Liz> yes
<LindaB> 10yes, sue
<NancyCarol> 12Yes, Sue
<LindaSDavies> ooh yes Sue
<BJs> 05yes sue
<Laura> 13you are fine Sue
<SueH> 00,05Thks
<Cynthia> 05yes it is fun, Sur
<StitchingSharon> 06k
<Cynthia> 05Sue
<NancyCarol> 12You're quite conspicuous!
<Marie> 06Or Mathew Takedo's single shuttle split ring?
<AKTATTER> YEP sUE HAS BEEN NIPPING AT HE SHERRY AGAIN AND IS DANCING WITH THE PIXIES
<SueH> 00,05I usually am... Back to AK, sorry
<AKTATTER> GOOD IDEA MARIE
<LindaB> 10sue, why not use purple and red...REd Hat colors? *giggle*
<AKTATTER> JEWEL TONE COLORS ARE FORME!
<AKTATTER> OK LAST PAGE TO REVIEW
<LindaB> 10k
<SueH> 13,05I seem to be stuck with the brown background...
<BJs> 05me too  jewel colors
<SueH> 03,05no matter what I do
<Tine> me too
<LindaSDavies> which page AK?
<BJs> 05well pink type easier to read
<SueH> 00,05white easiest to read...  Where did this page come from looks like machine made lace???
<LindaB> 10I like the brown with green letters?
<NancyCarol> 12You're fine unless you select brown type on brown background
<BJs> 05lol
<LindaB> 10lol Nancy
<AKTATTER>  http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page12.gif
<SueH> 00,05Thats was the censored text... brown on brown!
<AKTATTER> OK PAGE 12
<SueH> 00,05It's an idea for when you have a guest AK?
<Tine> m
<BJs> 05haha
<Laura> 13okay page 12
<Liz> going to page 12
<LindaB> 10which border on page 12?
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02ooooh pretty
<NancyCarol> 12OK, just three this time?
<AKTATTER> YES IF WE HAVE ANY ROWDY GUESTS WE'LL BLEEP THEM SUE
<LindaSDavies> Wow these are involved!
<Marie> 06can't get pg 12
<AKTATTER> SEE THE TO PEDGING
<AKTATTER>  http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page5.gif
<LindaB> 10yes
<AKTATTER> PRETTY SURE i TYPED IT OK THIS TIME
<Laura> 13yes
<AKTATTER> MIGHT BE A TRAFFIC JAM
<AKTATTER> THE TOP EDING LOOKS TO ME LIKE
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02I see block tatting
<AKTATTER> AN UNDULATING LINE OF RINGS
<AKTATTER> WHAT DO WE CALL THAT?
<LindaSDavies> yes lots of block tatting
<AKTATTER> WHEN THE ONE SIDE HAS SMALMER RINGS
<Cynthia> 05millipede?
<NancyCarol> 12Oh, my!  That one makes me exhausted to think about!
<Cynthia> 05definately
<LindaB> 10me too Nancy..
<AKTATTER> AND THEOTHER SIDE HAS LARGER RINGS AND WE MOVE BETWEEN THE TWO?
<AKTATTER> IT CREATES A NATURAL CURVE TO THE WORK
<Liz> almost got it, I would love the crochet patterns for these!
<LindaSDavies> don't know
<AKTATTER> A LINE OF BLOCK TATTING DONW THE CENTER WOULD BE EXCELLENT SHERRY
<NancyCarol> 12Slinky
<SueH> 00,05ooo I like #5 page 5...
<LindaB> 10lol
<DorcasAnn> that's how I do stacked tatting
<AKTATTER> MILLIPEDE TATTING! I LIKE THAT
<LindaSDavies> brilliant miilipede
<Laura> 13I can see blocks in the center too Sherry
<BJs> 05Inger had a block cross on her pattern site, too
<Liz> Millipede?
<Cynthia> 05too many Animal Planet programs
<AKTATTER> THE LINE OF CROCHET WORK ON THE TOP OF THE EDGING
<AKTATTER> COULD BE REPLACED WITH RING/CHAIN
<SueH> 00,05Thank could be done with chains for the cord... ANd then split rings with beads inside...
<BJs> 05more legs than a centipede
<Laura> 13grandbaby is waking up.  I might have to go
<AKTATTER> IWTH PICOTS ON THE RINGS WHICH ARE OVERCROCHETED OR "WRAPPED" AFTERWARDS
<LindaB> 10the tail of a dancing dragon...
<SueH> 00,05Same one block tatted blcoks...
<Liz> OHHHH!
<SueH> 00,05blocks
<LindaB> 10bye Laura
<AKTATTER> OHA DRAGON    WOW
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02kiss him for me
<Cynthia> 05could work either way
<NancyCarol> 12bye Laura
<AKTATTER> THAT BOTTOM EDGE IS EASY
<LindaB> 10undulating..
<Laura> 13I'll give him lots of kisses
<BJs> 05bye Laura
<Tine> bye Laura
<Laura> 13I like the dragon idea
<AKTATTER> A LINE OF SCMR WITH FANCY PICOTS THROWN OFF
<SueH> 00,05bye Laura
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Fancy picots???
<LindaSDavies> I like that idea AK
<AKTATTER> DAISY PICOTS, INTERWOVEN PICOTS
<Marie> 06bye Laura
<NancyCarol> 12Beautiful
<Liz> I see Multiple butterflies.
<SueH> 00,05page 5 no 4 could be done with stacked picots coming back and crochetting the,
<SueH> 00,05them
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02cool
<AKTATTER> STACKED BUTTERFLIE WOW
<AKTATTER> WHAT GREAT IDEAS
<AKTATTER> OK YOUR MISSION
<AKTATTER> SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT
<Cynthia> 05we could use a mini lesson on daisy and interwoven picots when you get a chance
<AKTATTER> IS TO STUDY THESE OLD EDGINGS
<AKTATTER> AND SEE IF YOU CAN SUBSITUTE BLOCK TATTING
<AKTATTER> OR OTHER TATTING TECHNQUES TO CREAT A TATTED EDGE
<SueH> 00,05You're alking page 12 3 for the stacked butterflies?
<Liz> AUGH!!!  Yes!
<Laura> 13he's up.  Bye everyone.  This was a blast!
<AKTATTER> RIGHT THE BOTTOM EDGE SUE
<BJs> 05If I ever see them, I'll try  but want to finish my Pam Palmer block design
<AKTATTER> BYE LAURA
<SueH> 00,05thks
<Tine> .
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<SueH> 00,05What date is this book please Sheron?
<LindaSDavies> This is going to be quite a challenge!
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02I like this challenge
<BJs> 05prb too advanced for me - but that's okay
<Cynthia> 05we're all up to the challenge, I think therefore I tat
<AKTATTER> http://tatsaway.blogspot.com/2007/10/daisy-picot-snowflake.html
<AKTATTER> EXAMPLE OF DAISY PICOT
<AKTATTER> WITH SO MANY GREAT IDEAS TODAY I THINK WE WILL HAVE LOTS OF PATTERNS
<Tine> yes
<StitchingSharon> 06Way beyond my skills too, but tucking the ideas away for later.
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02I'm glad I got into the classroom today!
<Mimi> I'm glad I came too! 
<LindaSDavies> I'm glad I logged on early
<Mimi> But I need to run now - family calls again
<BJs> 05good idea Sharon
<LindaB> 10I'll agree with that...
<BJs> 05me too
<Liz> Me Too! 
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02bye Mimi....see you soon :)
<LindaSDavies> bye mimi
<SueH> 00,05Leave the ideas in there and tlet 'em fester.  In time to come they will surface as beautiful designs... ;-)
<BJs> 05by Mimi
<AKTATTER> OK i'LL BE BACK TONIGHT AT 8:30PM ET
<Liz> Bye Mimi
<AKTATTER> THANKS SO MUCH FOR STOPPING BY
<Mimi> See y'all soon :)
<AKTATTER> HAPPY TATTING ALL
<NancyCarol> 12Sue will you be back?
<Tine> bye Mimi
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<SueH> 00,05Sees yer real soon Mimi  :-)
<LindaB> 10thank you Georgia.
<Liz> Thank you Georgia
<DorcasAnn> good bye
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<LindaSDavies> bye Georgia
<LindaB> 10bye Mimi
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<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Thanks Georgia!!!
<BJs> 05thank you Georgia
<NancyCarol> 12Thanks everybody.  
<SueH> 00,05No I have to be abead early...
<BJs> 05yeah  now you're sleepy  lol
<LadyShuttleMaker> 02Have a great weekend everyone!
<NancyCarol> 12Well, I'm glad I didn't miss today
<LindaSDavies> Ooh Sue, only you could get into such a fix
<LindaB> 10you too Sherry
<BJs> 05yes, have a good week end
<Marie> 06Thanks Georgia and all of you!
<SueH> 00,05I try... LOL
<Marie> 06I had a ball!
<BJs> 05By Lil Sis
<StitchingSharon> 06I'll be back tonight. 
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<SueH> 00,05Thanks all TAt care :-)
<BJs> 05I'll try  but I have to tat and tat and tat
<Tine> All hae a good weekend
<NancyCarol> 12Georgia - You're the BEST!!!
<LindaB> 10it was great everyone...thank you!
<AKTATTER> :)
<BJs> 05Bye Tine
<BJs> 05Bye Sue
<LindaSDavies> happy weekend everyone
<LindaB> 10same from me too
<BJs> 05By Linda
<SueH> 00,05More good stamps coming through AK  _ sees yer soon  :-) Nite all
<LindaB> 10bye all
<Tine> Bye all
<LindaB> 10bye BJ
<BJs> 05by everyone
<Tine> bye Beverly
<NancyCarol> 12Bye for now.
<BJs> 05bye
<LindaSDavies> bye BJ
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<BJs> 05so long, fare well auf weidersein
<Cynthia> 05Thankseveryone and I'll try to be here tonight as well.  I want to get the sites for another newbe before I go
<BJs> 05farewell
<Tine> tot ziens
<BJs> 05yah
<Tine> haha
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<LindaSDavies> Sorry too late for me tonight 1.30AM
<BJs> 05yawn
<Marie> 06GA when will the log be up?
<BJs> 05it is def a keeper
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<BJs> 05for the sites
<BJs> 05site links
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<AKTATTER> Marie the log is posted after the om class
<AKTATTER> pm class
<Tatter> TEST
<LindaSDavies> are you still lurking, Jane?
<AKTATTER> maybe I should edit it lol?
<BJs> 05aw it is for posterity
<AKTATTER> cynthis you asked about the daisy picot?
<LindaSDavies> Oh now AK LOL
<Marie> 06I was hoping to try the links again to see if they open.
<BJs> 05me too
<BJs> 05I still have hourglassing and no picture
<BJs> 05all this time!
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<LindaSDavies> Sorry can't sit any longer folks, had caudal epidural yesterday and I'm still sore!
<Marie> 06Could you send them to BJ and me by email?
<BJs> 05yes, could you?
<LindaSDavies> Bye everyone!
<BJs> 05please
<BJs> 05bye Linda  Thanks again
<Marie> 06Bye Linda
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<AKTATTER> you want the link to the coronation cord pages?
<Marie> 06Yes. I could only get 1 to open
<BJs> 05or you can post them on lesson site
<AKTATTER> ok type your emai lfor me
<BJs> 05beeloyal1@aol.com
<AKTATTER> oh yes that is what I will do right now
<Marie> 06tattingwithmarie@yahoo.com
<BJs> 05Thank you so much  gotta go  Depends will overflow  LOL
<Marie> 06Love you Sis
<AKTATTER> ok bye for now
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Session Start: Fri Feb 29 19:35:41 2008
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<Cathy> 06wb
<StitchingSharon> 13I am also using the PJirc - tried the Mirc and didn't care for it -- guess it'w what you get used to
<Diana> ty
<Margaret> 04wb
<AKTATTER> hello all
<NancyCarol> 03Hey Georgia!
<Robert> I did not have the same luck with pjirc but I may try it tonight if I have trouble
<Margaret> 04hello Georgia
<Diana> Hello Georgia
<Angie> 05Hello georgia
<Cathy> 06Hello, Georgia
<Robert> hey, georgia
<AKTATTER> Katie I just posted the homework
<alphaprimavera> Bonsoir Georgia
<Margaret> 04I have a couple of general questions about a new pattern I am starting
<occhitat> Hey Georgia!
<StitchingSharon> 13Hello Georgia!
<occhitat> Thanks, Georgia.
<NancyCarol> 03Thanks for sending the links this afternoon.  I've printed out now
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/katievprincessnpea.jpg
<AKTATTER> margaret so ahead
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<AKTATTER> go ahead
<Margaret> 04all I received were pictures
<Cathy> 06Pretty
<Diana> in answer to your earlier question Margaret, yes I tat, what do you mean when you ask "experienced tatter?"
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<AKTATTER> what was the name, the designer's name? is it a pattern online?
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<Robert> Katie, very nice work on the princess
<Margaret> 04rw means to rotate your work from top to bottom, does 'turn your work' mean to rotate it from right to left?
<AKTATTER> oops
<Sherong> Lost internet connection. Had to reconnect
<AKTATTER> rw = reverse work
<Cathy> 06c
<Margaret> 04I understand rw but not turn
<AKTATTER> turn work = turn from right to leaft as the page of a book
<Robert> .
<Angie> 05c
<Diana> ok, I think you and I were in the same beginner class Margaret
<NancyCarol> 03Beautiful princess & pea!
<occhitat> Thank, Robert.
<Margaret> 04the pattern is from Monica Hahn's Christmas  Angels and Other Tatting Patterns
<Margaret> 04two shuttles and a ball
<Robert> .
<Margaret> 04at the bottom of the pattern when using the second shuttle it says to 'join to the shuttle thread'  Is that a lock join?
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html
<AKTATTER> see that lesson for examples
<AKTATTER> let me look at the pattern what page?
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<Robert> I have been working on the block Christmas heart from a lesson os so ago.  I just finished a few minutes ago.
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<Robert> I have a picture at http://picasaweb.google.com/docfoster7/Tatting/photo#5172577818195166722
<Robert> hello Ruth.
<occhitat> Hi, Ruth!
<Robert> Thanks again for the patterns.
<Angie> 05Hi Ruth
<alphaprimavera> Allo Ruth This is Paule
<RuthPerry> 06Hello everyone!
<RuthPerry> 06You're welcome!
<Robert> I just received some emarld color thread in the mail today and I can't wait to try a few of them out.
<AKTATTER> magaret does the pattern have a name?
<Margaret> 04page 9
<Diana> For anyone interested, but most likely you all know, Sew Thankful has a closeout sale on Presencia Perle Cotton .79 cents each
<AKTATTER> goof price
<Margaret> 04simple Christmas tree
<AKTATTER> good 
<Diana> yep stocked up
<AKTATTER> ok page 9
<RuthPerry> 06Where is Sew Thankful?
<Margaret> 04it is j by shuttle thread
<Robert> http://www.sewthankful.com/
<Diana> http://www.sewthankful.com
<AKTATTER> yes a shuttle lock join
<StitchingSharon> 13VERY nice heart Robert!
<Diana> beat me to it Robert, thank you
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html
<Robert> Thanks. 
<Diana> Lovely heart Robert!
<AKTATTER> any other general questions?
<Robert> I threw two failures inthe trash
<Diana> lol
<AKTATTER> good job Robert
<Diana> happens to me like that too
<Angie> 05c 
<Margaret> 04I have never worked with two shuttles that way before where you start the second one towards the end of the pattern
<Robert> I am stronger for finishing it.
<Diana> two shuttles seem SOOO much easier to me
<AKTATTER> never throw out boo boos, make a boo boo bear or add to a crazy quilt
<Diana> ahh great tip!
<Robert> i have no idea what a boo boo bear is.  but I could have made an army this last month.
<Diana> lol!
<AKTATTER> as I look at the pattern I wondering what the need forthe second shuttle was
<Diana> thats funny 
<Margaret> 04what is your suggestion, Georgia
<alphaprimavera> Now where is Robert's heart that everybody is oaoaing about?
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<AKTATTER> ah I see it now
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<Robert> alphaprimavera check out http://picasaweb.google.com/docfoster7/Tatting/photo#5172577818195166722
<AKTATTER> if the pattern had started with two shuttles Magaret
<Margaret> 04hi, Cynthia
<Cathy> 06Hi, Cynthia
<AKTATTER> it would have been better
<Robert> hello cynthia
<AKTATTER> in that case the two small rings in the base of the three
<AKTATTER> are using the second shuttle to tat them
<alphaprimavera> OK Robert Will do so after class
<Cynthia> 06Hi everyone
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> just do the entire pattern with 2 shuttles and there will be no problem
<Angie> 05c
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<Robert> ok
<Margaret> 04where do i use the 2ne shuttle throughout?
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<AKTATTER> load both shuttles ctm
<alphaprimavera> Well Terry!
<terry> Hi all
<AKTATTER> ctm  continuous thread method http://members.aol.com/SLWelker/ctm.html
<Margaret> 04so don't use the ball at all then?
<Robert> greetings
<NancyCarol> 03Hey Terry
<Margaret> 04hi, Ruth
<AKTATTER> one shuttle will just act as the ball thread
<AKTATTER> until you reach those two rings at the base of the tree
<RuthPerry> 06Hi Terry, Hi Margaret!
<AKTATTER> then use the second shutle to throw off those two rings
<AKTATTER> nope no ball
<AKTATTER> ok let's sign in please
<Margaret> 04that is another term is a different book I didn't know what meant
<terry> Hi Ruth, Nancy, Margaret, are we using coronation thread?
<AKTATTER> GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> TATTER 074 YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR NAME JUST TYPE /NICK YOURNAME
<Cathy> 06Cathy lucie296@yahoo.com, Valdosta, GA USA
<Diana> wow Robert, I love the Sue Hanson, Blue heart you did, you have been busy
<NancyCarol> 03NancyCarol Bhm Ala bookjazz at yahoo
<StitchingSharon> 13Sharon Fawns Hillsboro Kentucky USA
<Margaret> 04throw off rings.  is that ring off chain where you change the places of the shuttles?
<RuthPerry> 06Ruth Perry Miamisburg, Ohio rjpoms at Yahoo.com
<Angie> 05Angela Miracle al_miracle@hotmail.com Davison, MI
<terry> Terry McGuffin me@terrythetatter Modesto, CA
<Sherong> Sheron Goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, columbia, SC
<alphaprimavera> Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime@vl.videotron.ca
<AKTATTER> WHICH TERM MARGARET?
<Cynthia> 06Cynthia Stevenson Stillwater Oklahoma, USA  tattingalorn@yahoo.com
<occhitat> Katie Verna, Creedmoor NC, katie at r-v-r.com 
<Diana> Diana KLinke , Indianapolis, IN ladyhawke49@comcast.net
<Robert> Robert Lee Foster Walnut Ridge AR, USA docfoster7 at gmail.com
<terry> Yo Katie
<Marie> 05Marie 
<Marie> 05Smith 
<AKTATTER> IT IS SO GOOD TO SEE SO MANY OF YOU HERE TONIGHT
<Margaret> 04throw off rings
<occhitat> Yo, Terry!!!!
<Robert> Thanks Diana
<Marie> 05AndersonSC  tattingwithmarie@yahoo.com
<RuthPerry> 06Hey Robert, are you a Doctor?
<AKTATTER> THAT MEANS THAT YOU NEED A SECOND SHUTTLE, AND THAT RING ARE BEING TATTED
<Margaret> 04margaret I. Boos, maggiep54@sympatico.ca London, Ontario, Canada
<AKTATTER> ON THE OPPOSITE LINE OF PROGRESSION
<AKTATTER> SO IF YOU TATTED A RING WITH SH1
<AKTATTER> THEN TATTED A CHAIN USING SH2
<Margaret> 04so throw off rings is the same as rings off chains?
<alphaprimavera> Hey Margaret!
<AKTATTER> YOU CAN STOP ON THE CHAIN AND TAT RINGS ALSO
<AKTATTER> THAT = THROW OFF RINGS
<AKTATTER> YES BUT YOU CAN ALSO THROW RINGS FROM SPLIT RINGS
<Robert> Ruth, I am a PhD not the kind of doctor that can do any good.
<AKTATTER> AND THROW THEM OFF SCMR
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<RuthPerry> 06Piled Higher and Deeper, huh?
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<Robert> Indeed
<RuthPerry> 06What field of study?
<AKTATTER> 074 JUST TYPE IN THE SKINNY WINDOW AT THE BOTTOM OF THIS SCREEN /NICK YOURNAME
<Margaret> 04Georgia, did we make a record on the big football day?
<Cynthia> 06Hi Natasha! Glad you made it
<alphaprimavera> Margaret relax everything will come clear
<Diana> Anyone ever bought or tried the "Cinnimon Lace" tatting books?
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<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> OK OHHH NEVER HEARDA OF THEM1
<Margaret> 04hi mimi
<Diana> http://www.cinnamonlace.com/default.asp
<AKTATTER> IS THERE ANYONE HERE FOR THE FIRSTTIME TONIGHT?
<Natasha> Hello! I am Natasha from Nashua, NH
<Margaret> 04me
<Robert> New Testament Studies
<NancyCarol> 03Hey Mimi -  Back for more fun?
<terry> Hi Mimi, how are your cluny's hanging???
<Margaret> 04I have been in the beginners' classes and two afternoon special events but never a night
<Robert> hey mimi
<mimi1> Hello all, they're watching a movie so I logged in :)
<Natasha> Hello Cynthia! I thought that this session started at 9 PM also. But it's 8:30
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<AKTATTER> sAMANTHA lEACH IS A NAME NEW TO ME
<alphaprimavera> Wellcome Margaret Don't be frightened..
<occhitat> Hi, Mimi!!! I always think of you and of Shuttlebirds last year when I see the flower magnet on my fridge.
<mimi1> Nope, beginners start at 9 becasue I can never make it home from work by 8:30 :-(
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<Natasha> Georgia, I am here for the first time
<Cynthia> 06We're just getting started
<AKTATTER> WELL GLAD YOU CAME ETONIGHT MARGARET
<occhitat> Hi, Hopie!
<terry> Hi Hopie
<mimi1> Hi Katie, we're going to miss you this year
<AKTATTER> NATASHA SO NICE TO SEE YOU FINALLY FOUND THE ROOM
<RuthPerry> 06Hopie!!!
<Hope> Hi All
<Diana> I have been at all the beginners and the Superbowl thing and I bought a valentine shuttle from Georgia
<AKTATTER> OK I HVE POSTED A BUNCH OF PUBLIC DOMAIN ITEMS THIS WEEK
<Margaret> 04hi, Hope
<occhitat> Mimi, gonna visit Hector this year.
<NancyCarol> 03Margaret -  You're the super, dupper prrof reader aren't you?
<RuthPerry> 06Welcome Natasha, we're a friendly bunch...
<Natasha> Georgia, thank you for the great instructions in the e-mail
<AKTATTER> BUT RON'S SERVER HAS BEEN ACTING UP
<alphaprimavera> And Natasha Don't bre frightened either
<mimi1> Good for you Katie! Have fun
<Margaret> 04yes
<terry> Teehee, Hopie is soon moving closer to me to become a dessert rat
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<Diana> I should say, the last beginners
<AKTATTER> HAPPY TO KNOW IT WORKED NATASHA
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<Eliz> Eliz in Arkansas, sorry I'm late
<RuthPerry> 06Hi Eliz
<Cathy> 06c
<AKTATTER> SO I WILL SHARE THEM AS THEY START SHOWING UP
<Angie> 05c
<Margaret> 04hi, elizabeth
<Natasha> Thank you so much for the warm welcome... It's a little too fast for me, but I am sure I'll get used to it :-)
<AKTATTER> THE FIRST COMPLETE BOOK POSTED WAS
<Hope> Yes, packing my bag and headed for Tucson on Sunday...
<AKTATTER> THE CORONATION CORD BOOK
<AKTATTER> AND THAT IS WHAT WE WILL LOOK AT TONIGHT
<Robert> Eliz where in AR are you?
<terry> Arem
<AKTATTER> PLEASE OPEN OR PRINT OF PAGE 4
<terry> aren't those crocheted?
<Robert> .
<alphaprimavera> What is coronation cord?
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<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page4.gif
<Eliz> central, Robert
<Cynthia> 06Natasha did you get the e-mail I sent?
<AKTATTER> CORONATION CORD WAS A VERY POPULAR NOVELTY CORD
<Robert> .
<Natasha> I have not checked my e-mail since 4 PM, Cynthia. I am going there right now
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<Margaret> 04all I get is pictures
<Cynthia> 06You can print direct I thought it would help if I sent it ahead to you
<Cynthia> 06that's right
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<alphaprimavera> Was it made by machine?...
<Margaret> 04my printer has no ink and I have no paper
<Sherong> The pages are saved as jpegs
<NancyCarol> 03Yes, just pictures
<NancyCarol> 03WE are going to come up with patterns
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<Margaret> 04fun!!!
<Cathy> 06c
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<Natasha> 05Thank you SO much, Cynthia!!!! I got it!
<terry> Where are WE going to get coronation cord?
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> LOOK AT IT ONLINE MARGARET OPEN A SECOND BROWSER WINDOW
<NancyCarol> 03WE are also going to be creative with materials and stitches!
<Margaret> 04I have all three opened in separate windows now
<AKTATTER> THE FACT IS TERRY THAT THERE IS NO HOPE OF EVER GETTING CORONATION CORD AGAIN
<terry> I let a package slip thru my fingers by not buying it when I first saw it.
<AKTATTER> SO WE ARE GOING TO LOOK AT THESE PATTERNS WITH THE EYES OF A TATTER
<AKTATTER> NOT A CROCHETER
<Sherong> If you allow popups on this page and double click the URL a new window will open with the page.
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> SO EVERYONE READY WITH PAGE 4?
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page4.gif
<NancyCarol> 03y
<Cynthia> 06y
<Robert> y
<terry> y
<AKTATTER> LOOK AT THE TOP EDGING
<occhitat> y
<Cathy> 06y
<AKTATTER> THIS IS WHAT I SEE
<StitchingSharon> 13ready
<Marie> 05yes
<AKTATTER> A LINE OF TATTED SPLIT RINGS DOWN THE CENTER
<Robert> ok
<AKTATTER> WITH A PEARL TATTED CHAIN ON EITHER SIDE JOINING TO THE SPLIT RINGS
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> THAT LINE IN THE CENTER OF THE SPLIT RINGS COULD BE A BEAD TOO
<Margaret> 04what is a pearl tatted chain?
<terry> cool
<AKTATTER> THAT IS A CHAIN WHICH HAD DS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE LINE OF PROGRESSION
<AKTATTER> http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/maltesesnowflake.html
<Cynthia> 06it takes 2 shuttles and a ball right Georgia
<AKTATTER> LOOK THERE ARE AN EXAMPLE OF PEARL TATTED RING AND CHAINS
<Robert> so two inverted two uninverted?
<AKTATTER> IT TKAES THREE THREADS
<AKTATTER> THE DS COUNT VARIES BUT YES IT ALTERNATES
<AKTATTER> TATTED DS THEN WRAPPED (NOT FLIPPED ) DS
<AKTATTER> AND THEY CAN HAVE PICOTS
<AKTATTER> AND YOU CAN EVEN 
<AKTATTER> THIS IS FOR YOU MARGARET
<AKTATTER> YOU CAN EVEN THROW OFF RINGS FROM THE PEARL TATTED CHAINS
<Sherong> Or one shuttle and two ball threads, flip all stitches
<Natasha> 05.
<Margaret> 04k
<AKTATTER> OK LOOK AT THE BOTTOM EDGING
<AKTATTER> ANY ONE GOT A SUGGESTION?
<Robert> k
<Diana> nice example on the Pearl
<AKTATTER> WOW THE SILENCE IS UNDERWHELMING
<Diana> lkol
<AKTATTER> OK LOOK AT IT AGAIN
<AKTATTER> I SEE A LINE OF SPLITRINGS
<AKTATTER> WITH REGULAR RINGS THROW OFF ON EITHER SIDE OF THEM
<Diana> I think I want to re-take the begginer's class sue to split rings and Pearl chains
<Diana> Due*
<AKTATTER> AND THOSE RINGS ATTACH TO PEARL TATTED CHAINS ON THE OUTSIDES
<Sherong> Same as first but  second row of sr then second row of pt\
<AKTATTER> RIGHT SHERON
<Natasha> 05.
<Cathy> 06c
<AKTATTER> OK IS IT GETTING EASIER TO "SEE" THE TATTING IN THE PATTERN?
<Eliz> You could also have a pearl tatted chain down the middle throwing rings off from both sides
<Margaret> 04I didn't say anything but I guessed rings 
<AKTATTER> OH! THAT IS A GOOD ONE ELIZ
<Robert> .
<Cynthia> 06Natasha does it make sense?
<Eliz> That would mesh nicely with pearl tatted chains on the outside
<AKTATTER> OK LET'S LOOK A THE SECOND ONE FROM THE TOP
<Margaret> 04may I ask if this was tatting or crocheting?
<Natasha> 05Cynthia, a little bit, but I dn't know what the pearl chain is yet... and some other things
<terry> and on the next page, daisies with split rings joining and another row around that with lots of "frillies". this is pg 5 of the booklet, second design down
<AKTATTER> BUT WHAT WHAT THE REST?
<Cynthia> 06make a list and I'll try to help after
<Sherong> Book is crochet. We are "converting" to tatting
<AKTATTER> WHAT YOU SEE ON THE PAGE 4 IS CROCHET WITH CORONATION CORD
<AKTATTER> EXACTLY RIGHT SHERON
<AKTATTER> THE SECOND ONE FROM THE TOP ON PAGE FOUR LOOKS LIKE CLUNY LEAVES TO ME
<Robert> .
<Eliz> Me, too, AK.  
<Sherong> Or very thin block tatting leaves
<Margaret> 04I am working on a pineapple tatting pattern that was developed in the 1920's as a challenge to convert a crochet pattern
<mimi1> A nice way to accent the edging
<Natasha> 05Cynthia, I will have to look at the chat session when a log is posted for it. I've seen already several things that I am not familiar with yet
<AKTATTER> BUT MIMI CAUTIONS US
<AKTATTER> CLUNIES TAKE A WHILE TO WORK UP
<AKTATTER> OK TURN TO PAGE 5
<Eliz> How about a pearl tatted chain first row.  Then a row of cluny, cluny, split ring, repeat across
<Cynthia> 06Ok but I have a hunch it is cluny, pearl and coronation cord right
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER>  http://www.georgiaseitz.com/~sherong/coronationcordbook/page5.gif
<Diana> page 5?
<Diana> ok ty
<AKTATTER> SO TELL EM AGAIN ABHOT THAT FRILLY ONE TERRY
<AKTATTER> THIS IS SIMILAR TO AN EDGING ON PAGE 4 BUT HERE THE RINGS ARE CROWNED
<AKTATTER> SO I SEE IT THIS WAY
<AKTATTER> AGAIN A LINE OF SPLIT RINGS
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<Sherong> Don't make Coronation Cord any more
<Margaret> 04welcome Back, Georgia
<Eliz> Yeah!  Teacher's back!
<Sherong> Unless you know a spinner who is just learning and making thick/thin spun
<Cynthia> 06it isn't available any more you occasionally see it as vintage with a big price
<AKTATTER> i THOUGHT i WAS GOING TO HAVE TO GO GET A KITE AND A KEY AND PRAY FOR LIGHTNING TO GET BACK IN
<AKTATTER> LOL
<AKTATTER> OK DID YOU ALL CONTINUE DOING THAT PAGE 5?
<Margaret> 04why was it named Coronation Cord?  Used in royalty's coronations?
<Robert> wb, georgia
<Angie> LOL
<Diana> well got to go thank all good night
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<Robert> do not speak too soon Margaret
<Eliz> No, we waited for you.
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> OK ANYONE WANT TO TRY IT?
<Cynthia> 06sure
<Marie> 05Which one on pg 5?
<Margaret> 04on my one yahoo group is a spinner in nearby Kitchener -- a little over an hour up the superhighway
<AKTATTER> WHAT ABOUT THE BOTTOM ONE?
<alphaprimavera> ok
<Robert> .
<Angie> c
<alphaprimavera> If you discount the crocheted squares...
<AKTATTER> OK
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<Robert> I honestly have no idea.  I am taking notes and listening.
<alphaprimavera> That looks like a SCMR to me
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<Eliz> I was wondering if we might get a little block tatting in to replace those squares, but haven't figured it out yet.
<Margaret> 04welcome back NancyCarol
<Cynthia> 06Self Closing Mock Rings, Natasha
<alphaprimavera> With thrown off rings
<NancyCarol> Thks
<Marie> 05Block and pearl in header. Block at bottom of edging
<Natasha> 05Thank you, Cynthia!!! I was going to look it up, but you were quick :-)
<alphaprimavera> With a lot of picots on the top...
<AKTATTER> WELL YOU ARE SURE ON THE RIGHT TRACK
<AKTATTER> WITH THAT BLOCK TATTING ON THE OUTER EDGE
<Cynthia> 06I had to learn that one too, 
<AKTATTER> AND THAT FAN SHAPE COULD WELL BE SCMR'S
<Sherong> Very bottom: Frayed picots?
<Sherong> rather than block
<alphaprimavera> good idea...
<Robert> ok, I think that I can see that
<AKTATTER> OH THAT MIGHT WORK SHERON
<Margaret> 04what is a frayed picot?
<AKTATTER> OR WHAT ABOUT OVERCROCHETED PICOT TOPS LIKE HELMA SIEPMAN DOES?
<AKTATTER> THINK OF A THISTLE MARGARET
<AKTATTER> THE FLUFFY PART
<alphaprimavera> another good idea...
<AKTATTER> WHAT ABOUT THE SECOND PATTERN FROM THE TOP?
<Margaret> 04how is a frayed picot done?
<AKTATTER> WHAT DO WE SEE RUNNING THRU THE MIDDLE OFIT?
<StitchingSharon> 13these make me think of the time when a lot of tatting included crochet.
<Natasha> 05.
<Robert> split ring chain
<StitchingSharon> 13block tatting?
<AKTATTER> THAT IS JUST THE TIME OF IT 1910 ISH
<AKTATTER> THOSE COLD BE SMALL BLOCKS SURE OR CLUNY LEAVES AGAIN
<AKTATTER> THROWING OFF 2 RINGSON EITHER SIDE
<NancyCarol> 03cro-tat is still around?
<AKTATTER> YES IT IS
<AKTATTER> OK LET'S LOOK AT PAGE 12
<Cynthia> 06it has 3 items on it
<AKTATTER> YES JUST LOOK AT THE BOTTOM ONE FIRST
<Robert> Margaret frayed picots at http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/rctthistledo.pdf
<AKTATTER> THIS AFTERNOON WE HAD SOME WILD SUGGESTIONS FOR THAT ONE
<AKTATTER> THANKS ROBERT
<Sherong> URL please
<Natasha> 05wow, I wouldn't even know if something like this could be tatted!
<AKTATTER> SURE IT CAN NATASHA LOOK HARD
<AKTATTER> DOWN THE CENTER
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> MAYBE JUST PLAIN OL CHAINS
<StitchingSharon> 13split rings with rings coming off them down center?
<AKTATTER> WITH THREE RINGS ON EACH SIDE
<AKTATTER> SURE SPLIT RINGS WOULD WORK
<AKTATTER> THOSE RINGS COUDL BE JOINED TO BLOCKS ON THE EDGE
<AKTATTER> OR TO FANCY PICOTS TOO
<Cynthia> 06how about thrown off rings with fancy picots?
<StitchingSharon> 13ring-chain-ring-chain-ring-chain-chain to get you to the bottom?
<Sherong> Long blocks of tatting in center with rings thrown off? or joined on
<AKTATTER> OR MAYBE SUBSITITUE SEVERAL SMALL ER RINGS
<AKTATTER> RIGTH SHARON
<AKTATTER> I;'M, WITH YOU CYNTHIA
<Marie> 05I still like Mathew Takedo's single shuttle split ring for this
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> ONE SUGGESTION WAS STACKED BUTTERFLIES FOR THIS ONE
<AKTATTER> GOOD PLACE TO USE IT MARIE
<Cynthia> 06is there a link?
<Robert> .
<StitchingSharon> 13single shuttle split ring?
<Cynthia> 06how about stacked butterflies
<Sherong> think of a series of partially closed rings, one after the other
<Margaret> 04I have lots to learn
<AKTATTER> WHAT IF THOSE SIDE RINGS HAD ONE LONG PICOT ON THEM
<Sherong> Now come back and do the second half of the rings
<AKTATTER> AND THE RING JOINED BACK TO THE PICOT TO GIVE THE UPPER EGE OF A SECOND WING?
<Cynthia> 06we all do margaret so don't give up
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> THAT I HAD NOT THOUGHT OF SHERON
<AKTATTER> I'M STIL LEARNING MARGARET AT THE LACE CONFERENCE I JUST LEARNED TO DO CLUNY WITH FOUR CORE LINES TO EWEAVE OVER
<AKTATTER> OK LOOK AT THE TOP EDING
<AKTATTER> THIS I JUST LOVE
<Cynthia> 06my favorite
<AKTATTER> ANHY IDEA?
<Robert> single shuttle split ring ? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/sssr/rietsssr.html
<NancyCarol> 03I'm just quietly sitting at the feet of the masters and hoping some little crumbs of knowledge will fall into my head.
<Eliz> I immediately thought of Ruth's boullion stitch.  Would it work Ruth?
<AKTATTER> SAVE SOME CRUMBS FOR ME NANCY
<Robert> you and me both NancyCarol
<AKTATTER> WHAT DO YOU THINK RUTH?
<Cynthia> 06me as well
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> IHAD FIRST THOUGHT OF THOSE WE TAT
<StitchingSharon> 13me too! learning something every time I log in here!
<AKTATTER> WITH LARGER RINGS ON ONE SIDE AND SMALLER RINGS ON THE OTHER WHICH MAKES A NATURAL CURVE
<AKTATTER> BUT IN CLASS TODAY
<AKTATTER> IT WAS SUGGESTED THAT THE LINE OF CORONATION CORD
<AKTATTER> BE BLOCK TATTING!!!!
<Marie> 05The rounded blocks like we did with Wally on Monday?
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> ABSOLUTELY PERFECT!
<Eliz> Great idea!
<AKTATTER> AND ANOTHER SUGGESTED THIS WAS THE TAIL OF A DRAGON
<AKTATTER> WOW I WAS IMPRESSED
<AKTATTER> ANY OTHER SUGGESTIONS FOR THIS ONE?
<Cynthia> 06or a centipede or milipede
<AKTATTER> RIGHT
<Natasha> 05.
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<Sherong> Like Janes block tatted chain? 
<AKTATTER> YES!
<Sherong> Or a series of clunies might look more like the coronation cord - thin, thick, thin
<AKTATTER> ANYONE HAVE THAT LINK HANDY?
<Sherong> Tail of a dragon? Was Sherry there?
<AKTATTER> YES BUT THAT MANY CLUNIE REQUIRES A LOT OF DEDICATION
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> NO SHE WASN'T BUT IT IS APT
<Cynthia> 06c
<Margaret> 04k
<AKTATTER> DO YOU WANT TO TRY ANOTHER ONE?
<Cynthia> 06sure
<Marie> 05yes
<Eliz> sure
<AKTATTER> PAGE 7
<Natasha> 05.
<StitchingSharon> 13why not?
<Margaret> 04Georgia, where did coronation cord get its name?
<AKTATTER> SECOND EDGING FROM THE BOTTOM
<AKTATTER> HMM I DON'T THINK I KNOW MARGARET BUT IWILL LOOK IT UP
<Cynthia> 06link, please
<Robert> .
<Eliz> I don't have an image for page 7
<Margaret> 04did you send page 7?
<AKTATTER> PIECEWORK MAGAZINE HAD A ARTICLEON ITS 100TH BIRTHDAY
<AKTATTER> SHIRLEY MACELLERY???? WROTE IT SHE IS AN EXPERT
<Sherong> If you go to the page with the old page and delete the page # and put in the different one it comes up
<Natasha> 05#4 and # 6 are the only ones, where I see some "tatting" details... Boy, I am getting scared how much I need to learn.. :-)
<AKTATTER> RIGHT
<AKTATTER> OK GOT PAGE 7 UP?
<Sherong> We all need to look at things differently
<StitchingSharon> 13we never stop learning
<Cynthia> 06No reason to panic Natasha we all learn a lot
<AKTATTER> SECOND TO THE BOTTOM
<Sherong> That's what we are doing
<mimi1> don't be scared Natasha, just soak in what you can
<Robert> page 7 here
<AKTATTER> THAT IS THE FUN OF IT NATASHA OUR TATTING IS EVER NEW
<StitchingSharon> 13this is laced up like the Celtic stuff
<AKTATTER> OK LOOK ONLY AT THE BOTTOM LINE OF CORONATION CORD
<AKTATTER> IT HAS RINGS AND CHAINS
<AKTATTER> BUT
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> THIS CHAIN CURVES THE OPPOSITE WAY
<Natasha> 05that's true - there is always something new to discover :-)
<AKTATTER> SO WE WOULD NOT RW  TO TAT THIS CHAIN THA FORCES IT TO CURVE UP INSTEAD OF DOWN
<AKTATTER> OK CLOSE YOUR EYES AND BLINK
<alphaprimavera> Just got p 7
<AKTATTER> LOOK AT THE DOUBLE ROW OF CORONATION CORD
<AKTATTER> NOW I SEE A LINE OF ONE SHUTTLE WORK
<AKTATTER> ALL RINGS THROWN OFF AND JOINED
<AKTATTER> BUT
<alphaprimavera> Phew!
<AKTATTER> WHAT IS THAT TWISTY THREAD SNEAKING THROUGH THE RINGS?
<AKTATTER> COUDL THIS BE A BEADED CHAIN WOVEN THROUGH THEM?
<AKTATTER> OR A COLOR CONTRAST AGAINST THEM?
<Eliz> I love that line woven through.  Would be a shame to lose it.
<AKTATTER> WHAT DO YOU SEE?
<Margaret> 04be right back
<Natasha> 05.
<AKTATTER> RUTH IS THIS SOMETHING CELTIC??
<Robert> .
<mimi1> proto-Celtic maybe?
<AKTATTER> REMEMBER THIS ENTIRE BOOK IS UPLOADED JUST SUBSTITUTE PAGE1.GIF WITH PAGE20.GIF AND COVER.GIF FOR ALL 20 PAGES
<AKTATTER> MAYBE SO MIMI
<AKTATTER> I HOPE THAT YOU HAVE ALL ENJOYED THIS LOOK BACK
<AKTATTER> AND I KNOW THAT YOU HAVE INSPIRED ME WITH IDEAS
<AKTATTER> SO THIS IS YOUR MISSION
<Eliz> It has been fun to brainstorm together.
<AKTATTER> SHOULD YOU CHOOSE TO ACCEPT THE CHALLENGE :)
<AKTATTER> LOOK AT THESE PAGES AND SEE IF YOU CAN USE THEM TO CREATE A TATTED PATTERN
<AKTATTER> SUBSTITUTING BLOCK TATTING OR OTHER TATTING TECHNIQUES FOR TEH CORONATION CORD
<Robert> wow.
<Natasha> 05it sure was a lot of fun... I could not even imagie all the possibilities with tatting!!! Way too cool! :-)
<Marie> 05Any of the 20 pages?
<AKTATTER> ANY PAGE
<Marie> 05I accept
<AKTATTER> SUPER!!!
<AKTATTER> ANY QUESTIONS?
<Cynthia> 06I'll give it a try
<Eliz> THank you for the special night of fun
<Robert> .
<AKTATTER> REMEMBER THE EASTEREGG CONTEST WITH A PRIZE DONATED BY HOPE GREEN ENDS ON MARCH 17
<AKTATTER> END OF CLASS
<AKTATTER> GOOD FOR YOU CYNTHIA
<Margaret> 04where and when will the log be up?
<Eliz> Good night everyone!
<AKTATTER> I HOPE YOU ALL HAD FUN
<NancyCarol> 03Great class AGAIN!  
<Natasha> 05Thank you for all great info!!
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<mimi1> Thanks Georgia!
<Robert> Thanks for everything.
<AKTATTER> I WILL TRY IT RIGHT NOW MARIE BUT THE SERVER WAS NOT WORKING EARLIER
<Margaret> 04Georgia, will there be a log? 
<Natasha> 05Cynthia, thank you so much for your help!!!!!!!!!!
<AKTATTER> LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS??
<Robert> Can we do this again on leap year?
<Cynthia> 06I did , great class and thanks Georgia and everyone
<AKTATTER> YES IT WILL POST AS SOON AS I CAN
<Margaret> 04you answered many of my questions and I didn't write down the answers
<AKTATTER> SEE YOU RIGHT HERE NEXT YEAR 
<Marie> 05Wonderful time. But my side is still hurting from the 3 pm class
<Cynthia> 06I don't want to wait 4 uyears
<NancyCarol> 03Afternoon and night classes are always SO different I enjoy both
<AKTATTER> LOL ME TOO
<Margaret> 04will you have a log?
<AKTATTER> WELL THEN THERE WILL BE  SPECIAL EVENT IN MARCH
<Cynthia> 06definately
<AKTATTER> YES MARGARET WILL POST AS SOON AS I CAN
<AKTATTER> OK THEN
<StitchingSharon> 13I learn something new every time I log in here.
<Cynthia> 06Natasha we can stay after and chat if you have time
<AKTATTER> THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TONIGHT
<Margaret> 04did you more tatters on the big football day?
<AKTATTER> GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING!
<Natasha> 05yes, of course I do
<Robert> Margaret if you have trouble with the log e-mail at docfoster7 at gmail.com and I'll help ya.
<NancyCarol> 03THANKS and Bye everybody
<occhitat> Thank you, Georgia, and everyone. Interesting, mind-stretching class.
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