Session Start: Mon Feb 11 15:00:46 2008 *** Now talking in #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat I hope somebody will hang around and set me straight. 06yeah, anyone want to join me in the "happy dance"??? 12hi Georgia at last! 06yeah, hi Georgia!!!! 12you were locked out too? 12Believe it or not - I finished last wks homework and am 3/4 done on Sue's heart. My blocks aren't quite square; but they are there! hooray! I had given up hope Hooray! Teach has arrived! 12Hi Teach that is great BJ 06don't give up Georgia.. Hi Georgia! 12boy do i have questions for you today! 12I got ALL confused! Can you see what a determined group we are?! 06I am in FL on someone elses computer. *** StitchingSharon has quit IRC (Quit: ) 12it is easy to loose one's place 06very determined! Jon from Malaysia has got one done already Please save this note. Welcome The class begins at the half hour so determine which time zone you are in and adjust to 8:30PM ET on Monday. An additional class will make it easier for the European tatters to join us at 3PM ET Mondays. Tatters in Australia, New Zealand, Southeast Asia, China and Japan will need to take the international dateline into consideration also. World Clock http://www.worldtimezone.com/ The first 10 minutes will be set aside for open chat. Come in and get a cyber seat. After the open chat, I, or the guest host tatter, will announce the start of class. All members are asked to sign in for the roll call. You need only type in your name and hometown. This helps us find tatting buddies. If you add your email address, be sure to substitute the symbol "#" for the symbol "@" for privacy. The host will then switch to all caps and color fonts as available. A topic is introduced, a pattern is discussed, and there will be numerous pauses so that questions may be asked. During this time please keep the cross chatter to a minimum. Feel free to ask any questions or to ask that a segment be repeated. Lessons will be posted online prior to class. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/2008index.html Attachments will NEVER be sent with class email notes. Be sure to have your firewall in place, virus protection updated and check your computer frequently. One extra note: I am now living in the state of Illinois way out in the countryside. I am at the mercy of the elements here. The weather brings frequent electrical storms here and that means that I may not to able to join the class or have to leave it suddenly during a storm. During such moments, I hope that a long time member of the online tatting class will be able to guide the class. If no one is available, then the lesson will be repeated the next week. Remember we need lots of help keeping the class going during the year and all volunteers are welcome. Email me anytime. It may take a day or two to get a reply at times but they say that "patience" is a tatter's middle name. Int'l classroom http://www.simplyspace.com/tatting Please remember to keep the link to the classroom private. This is the international classroom open to all tatters with an email address. Click and wait for the aplet to load then sign into class. You may want to update your java aplet too. www.java.com (free download) If your computer does not accept the aplet thingy then please use this better alternative, MIRC. Mirc how2 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/mirchow2.html This how to is easy just go step by step. Once installed getting to class is just one click away. Homework from class is posted. If you do not have a website or a place to post your tatting you are welcome to send it to the class. Homework http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework oops *** Tatter is now known as StitchingSharon soory wrong script 12My ISP is timing out a lot 12so if i get bumped off, that's what's going on. this is Jon from Malaysia's block heart http://tatsaway.blogspot.com/ I had to call Ron the webmaster 12I'll send in my first effort if I get the energy, before next class 3 cheers for Ron hooray hooray hooray *** Winkerbill has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatter) 06hip hip hooray for Ron!!!! feb. 11, 2008 afternoon session greatly delayed 06I thought *** StitchingSharon has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 06I was being thrown out because *** Tatter790 has joined #tatchat Big Hooray for Ron!! 06i am on a different computer. let's do a quick sign in with hometown and name He fixed it! *** Tatter is now known as StitchingSharon *** Tatter790 is now known as Winkerbill 12Bev Davis Silver City, NM USA 04Threw me out again 06Marie i already got thrown out. NancyCarol Bhm Ala USA 04Sharon Fawns Hillsbor KEntucky USA GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL Ria Bob Kishen, Wirral, UK Stephanie in Georgia for now 06Linda BArnes, Woodbridge, VA lingram2@comcast.net love2tat Hope Green Miami Fl 06Marie Smith tattingwithmarie Where is the servier for this system located? 06anderson SC server i DON'T KNOW rON HAS MOVED AROUND A BIT Well, never mind, we are IN!! 04I missed the link for today's lesson 06I even checked to see if I had the update for Java... 12suddenly I can't get popups to get the links....don't know what happened *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 06glad to finally have made it to class! 12we reinstalled Java hello *** Tatter is now known as marco OUR LESSONS FOR TOADY ARE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/shansonblockheart2.html just in time hihi AND 06just must have been a hiccup some where? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/stephwflowerbookmark2.jpg 12hey Marco hello everione HI MARCO 06Actually I am in Gainesville FL today glad to be here are you still bysi? OK WHO HAD THOSE QUESTIONS EARLIER?? 12me tine could not sign in 12I got so messed up .... WE WERE LATE STARTING THE CLASS MARCO GOT LOCKED OUT BUT ALL OK NOW oke OK 12and i've got to check out around 5 for a doctor appointment.... 06I was locked out too BLOCK TATTING IN PRICIPLE OR THE PATTERN? 04I tried to do the Ombre block haert. Ny block looked like an octopus. 12c 04both 12I did ok on the first 2 blocks. it was the 06lol sharon. 12"mirror image" blocks that got me really messed up LOL SHARON , PLEASE SEND IT TO jANE e SHE IS BUILDING A ZOO ON HER WEBSITE 12That, and I couldn't tell if I was frontside or backside half the time, especially on the rings. OKWELL YOU CAN SEE FROM THE NOTE IN RED 04were there some joins not listed in on the pattern?? Like at beginnings and ends of rows? THA SUE HERSELF HAD FORGOTTEN EXACTLY HOW IT WENT 12I ended up backside when I should have been frontside...and vice-versa FIRST THING TO DO IS TO FORGET THE PATTERN 06Hi Big Sis :) 12and I sort of ....invented my own pattern after a while. LOOK FIRST AT THE ACTUAL TATTING 12ok. 12if one gets a block, does it really matter? LOL That's probably a good thing to remember for other projects 06lol BJ THAT IS TRUE BJ block tatting takes a while to get the hang of Sharon, don't worry. WHAT MATTERS HERE this is a block party??? IS THAT THE TOPSOF THE ds k *** Tatter has joined #tatchat LOL YES IT IS hOPIE! *** Bob has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter296 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter296 is now known as Bob *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) That's why we're devoting a whole year to block ratting? :-) tatting 12:-D THE TOP OF THE DS ARE ALL ON THE SAME SIDEOF OF THE CHAIN 12right.... 12Hey yr self NOW PLEASE GO LOOK AT 12i managed that somehow. 12that is why I switched to #10 thread, so I could see i had no time to try it out 12me too. ;-) but i will try this week http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/blocktatting.htm 12ok.... THE FIRST CHAIN SEGMENT HAS THE DS ON THE TOP THE SECOND CHAIN SEGMENT SHOWS THE DS TOPS WRAPPED ON THE BOTTOM BUT 12What is the key to getting the chains to be close to one another? 12I felt like throwing in mock picots! WHEN THE CHAINS ARE FOLDED BACK ON THEMSELF 12i did THE DS ARE ALL O NTHE TOP SIDE OF THE WORK GOT?? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 12so far so good GOT IT? OK ok With you so far 12k 04so far ok SO LOOK AT THE BLOCK ON THE HEART NOTE THAT THE CHAIN THAT PRECEDES BLOCK 3 HAS THE DS TOPS FACING THE CENTER OF THE HEART BUT THE FIRST ROW OF THE BLOCK 3 CHAINS LOVE2TAT/NICK *** Tatter912 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter459 has joined #tatchat FACE THE SAME WAY SO ALL THAT IS NECESSARY *** Tatter912 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter399 has joined #tatchat IS TO EXTEND TEH CHAIN # DS AND FOLD BACK AND WRAP THE SECOND ROW THEN EVERYTHING WORKS OUT IN THE PROPER FACINF DIRECTION TATTERS TO CHANGE YOUR NAME PLEASE TYPE /NICK YOURNAME 12ok, Ok, Got ya. I did that... 12c k 12so far, so good...mostly 06k 12except I got mixed up about whether I was facing front or backside when I did the first 2 rings *** Bob has quit IRC (Ping timeout) *** Tatter399 is now known as Bob 12c *** Tatter459 has left #tatchat 12k 04everythign is made from "right side" OH WELL THAT CAN BE A PROBLEM i JUST ADD A THREAD TO SHOW FRONT SIDE 12I was doing the block tatting with 2 shuttles.... 12me too 12i kind of like it better that way ME TOO 04I had 2 shuttles CTM, but it seemed like 1 shuttle did all the work HEY BOB GLAD YOU MADE IT 12but I got REALLY mixed up starting iwth the 3rd block it's easier to manipulate with two shuttles than having a ball attached as well. RIGHT OK SO FOR THE PATTERN OVERALL 12i just like working iwth 2 shuttles...\ hello Bob 12I like working with two shuttle, in general IT STARTS WITH THE UPPER RIGHT SIDE BLOCK Hi Marco, long time no see. I hope all is well with you. DOWN TO THE LOWER RIGHT SIDE BLOCK 06k OVER THE TO LEFT SIDE BLOCK yes bob i know UP TOTHE RIGHT LEFT UPPER SIDE BLOCK 12THAT is where the trouble startd fro me BUT 12the 3rd block mostley i am not home before ten o clock our time i am lucky that things went wrong in the class BUT IF YOU TATTED THE CLOVERLEAF AT THE BOTTOM FIRST THAT WOULD MARK THE FRONT SIDE FOR YOU AND YOU CAN STILL DO IT IN ONE PASS It sounds like you're working too much, Marco! 12HUH??? no no monday evening is my sportsevening USE STARTER PICOT TO BEGIN THE CHAIN BEFORE THE CLOVERLEAF AT THE BOTTOM that is the problem TAT CLOVERLEAF 12OH.......... TAT CHAIN AFTER THE CLOVERLEAF 12ok MOVE INTO BLOCK 3 ON THE DIAGRAM ( LOWERE LEFT SIDE BLOCK 12so far I can see this working.... 04I'm lost. We are starting with the cloverleaf? CHAIN UP TO THE LEFT SOLITARY RING TAT BLOCK 4 ONDIAGRAM (UPPER LEFT SIDE) USE SPLIT RING TO CLIMB OVER TO THE RIGHT SIDE SPLIT RING THEN BLOCK1 ON TEH DIAGRAM (UPPER RIGHT SIDE) THROW OFF SINGLE RING CHAIN DOWN TO THE LAST BLOCK 2 ON THE DIAGRAM (LOWER RIGHT SIDE) ATTACH TO THE START PICOT CHAIN AROUND OUTSIDE DOES THAT MAKE IT EASIER? 12. 12Wow....now i'm REALLY confused. LOL 12lol JUST BECAUSE THE DESIGN SAYS START HERE it is a good thing that we can look back on this 12i'll have to go back and look at the log, draw the thing out that way.... 04Lost me at the split ring YOU CAN TRULY START ANYWHERE THAT IS EASIER 12THEN give it another try. JUST TRACE THE PATH 12I stopped looking at the diagram and just looked at the poto and that helped 06would your second block after the clover end up wrong to make split ring at top??? SEE WHERE YOU NEED A SPLIT RING OR CHAIN 12I can't see how I can do it in 1 pass and still get the outside chains on there.... i DON'T KNOW 12i'll have to practice a bit on this one, I guess. 12I'm 'in' block four - so haven't tried getting out as yet 06I'd start at the top with a block, then rings and chain down to block at bottom, chain, clover, chain and back up the other side????? MIGHT HAVE TO ADD OR SUBSTRACT A CHAIN 12My biggest problem was that blocks 3 and 4 seem to have the bars facing the center.... THAT IS EVEN BETTER LINDA 12and I had trouble with picots ....trying to join the next one to the "underneath" of the chain before 06then do the heart outside part...that way you wouldn't have to do splitrigs. 12especially since they were small SIMPLIFY IS ALWASY GOO 12the vsp D 12i don't mind the split rings. I like them. ;-) 06it would be all complete without split rings or split chains. 12no split chains! please 06I don't mind split rings either, but why do them if you don't have it...lol 12Hey! I discovered last week that split chains are EASY using a needle to tat! i hate splitchains 12well....cuz I LIK Edoing split rings. ;-) LOL WTG! th ey come out very bad with me THEY CERTAINLY ARE EASIER WITH THE NEEDLE 06that's why I like diagramed patterns...you can start most anywhere you want. 12ok....Georgia...the first two blocks were easy to do. 06very much so... 12I like split rings NOW they are easy now that I know how to do themn 06I love split chains 12the other two blocks faced 'inward" and I had a lot of trouble with them. i will try that sometime 12is there a trick to it....doing block tatting when OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BLOCK HEART 12I'm still learning the split chains from Lil Sis's instructions SHARED WITH US BY sUE hANSO? 12you're sort of on the "bottom" of the chain instead of the top? marie, come to the netherlands and help me please hihi 12I actually had an easier time with Sue's pattern than the first pattern. 12Marco, come visit me and we'll go see Marie NOT SURE WHAT YOU MEAN sTEPH 04I think I can do it -- just as written. 06I would love to 12well...on the 1st two blocks the bars were ...umm...where you could join easily to the last chain.picots were on "top" 06marco 12on the 2nd two blocks, picots were on "top" of teh last chain, but you were tatting "below" the last chain.... AH WELLJUST REMEMBER yes? THAT THE BARS O NTHE BACK OF THE WORK ARE JUST PICOTS THAT NEVER GREW UP 12or was I doing it backwards and upside down? YOU CAN JOIN TO THEM Do you mean joining to the core thread? 06We could all get together. 12i think so....maybe? 06You would all love split chains after that were do you live? 04about those joins on the bloks 06when I look close Sue's blocks aren't all going the same way??? 12she lives close to a huge candy store, Marco! LET'S SEE 12yum candy woh mmmmmmmmmm choclate 06different angles... 06South Carolina USA NO THE UPPER RIGHT ONE SLANTS DIFFERENT DIRECTION 06one on the top right is different? 12jelly beans, white choc, milk choc...dark...all kinds of stuff...and ice cream, too. ;-) 04we join at the ends on every other row? 06but all are blocks it is a bit far he 12Don't the blocks both slant inwards towards the center? 06Near Russell StoverCandies THERE IS A GREAT DIFFERENCE IN THE ANGLE OF THE UPPER TWO BLOCKS 12the bottom blocks slant towards the benter, top blocks slant towards the outside? 06yes, it is...glad it isn't just me that sees it...might help some of those having a hard time? BUT i THINK THAT IT IS INHERENT IN THE WORK 12I was concentrating on making a block and didn't pay attention to slant 06oh yes, it looks fine. 12i'll have to practice it a bit more, I think. me too WELL WE WILL HAVE PLENTY OF PRACTICE THIS YEAR :) 12good. I need it. ;-) OK WE HAVE A BONUS PATTERN 04looking at the text on sue's block B is non-flipped stitches? F is flipped? A FIRST TIME ORIGINAL 12good because I think that is the key to this especially FROM OUR OWN wINKERBILL sTEPH, WERE YOU JUST DOODLING WHEN YOU DREW THIS UP? 06All right!!!! Winkerbill 06you go girl! 12had too much thread left over to throw out, so I decided to see what happened. 12y 12and that's what came out. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2008/stephwflowerbookmark2.jpg 12;-) EXCELENT USE OF LEFTOVER THREAD, OR TAT BUTTERFLIES FOR pALMETTOS :) 04way to go Winkerbill! OK THE CENTER RING 5 PICOTS AND YOU CLIMB OUT TAT 6 RINGS 12usually I do little flowers to use up thread it's very pretty, Steph! SLJ TO THE INNER PICOTS 12thanks 06great job! really like your bookmark, Step AND THEN CHAIN AROUND WITH PICOTS ON THE OUTSIDE RIGHT SO FAR sTEPH? 12umm...yes 12. OK NOW THAT CHAINS it is al lovely bookmark stepanie THAT IS NOW AREGULAR CHAIN IS IT? 12well...I made 7 picots on the center, but may have left aone or two unused WSA THAT NODE STITCH? 12yes. SO HOW MANY IN THE SET? 12It was supposed to be "set stitch" but I think I started backwards 12umm..3 of the 1st half, 123 of the 2nd half ch [3,3] AND YOU USED THE SECOND SHUTTLE TO THROW OFF A RING 12right CONTINUED THE CHAIN RW THROW OFF RING 12yes MORE CHAIN SET STITCH AND FINALLY END WITH A TASSEL 12right. 12. OK aktatter what is a tassel? THAT IS AN EASY PATTERN TO FOLLOW THE BUNCH OF THREADS AT THE END MARCO ok THE TAILS ooooooooooooo i see HERE ARE SOME EASY DIRECTIONS FOR MAKING TASSELS ANY OTHER QUESTIONS?? 12n No questions here. http://www.ehow.com/how_5885_make-tassel.html *** Marie has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06did you mention the number of stitches used for the flower? *** Tatter897 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter897 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatter897) ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS OR ANNOUCEMENTS? *** Tatter458 has joined #tatchat 06I missed that part... 04question about last week's heart. *** Tatter458 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12the rings I used were 3 - 5 - 5 - 3 LOOKS LIKE 3 OR 4 DS BETEEWN PICOTS OR JOINS YES SHARON 06ok thank you. SHARON? 12but you can probably make them bigger if you want, I just was using up half a shuttle full of thread *** Tatter034 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter034 is now known as Marie 12wb marie OK LSAT CALL FOR QUESTIONS 12Thank you Georgia see you tonite Try to get my homework turned in today 04Had to find the pattern. I ended up with an octopus... were there some joins left out of the text?