Session Start: Mon Sep 24 13:57:00 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat 12Hi Georgia! hello all 07That is a good thing! HI there! 07Hi Georgia. Did you think you would see me here? 12Oh, I'm all hyper and excited today, Georgia! I am going over to aol to see if anyone needs help to sign in that is really super to see you Marie! ygg Steph! will you two hold the fort a few minutes? thanks *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Susanne 07Hi Susanne. 12Evening all 07Hi 07Susanne I am Marie from South Carolina 12I almost thought I was late hi Susanne 12Hi Marie, I am Susanne from Denmark 07I came an hour early to see if I could get in. Never been here before. so open chat continues for 10 minutes 12You are here Marie, no worries 07What do we say? what ever you want in the first 10 minues Marie 07Steph, where are you from? we catch up on old friends make new ones 12Yes very true Steph I have several emails from you still in the in box I"ve been going as fast as I can but it is hard to catch up did everyone get the lesson pages printed ok? 12Georgia an online tatter from the US is coming my way next month oh really from the class?? 12ok, just got back. Why don't husbands need to check their business e-mail until RIGHT at 3 p.m.? 12Not sure if she attends classes, it is Camille "in knots" from California oh I know her! She will be fun oh dh s are like that 12I can't print - I'm going to have to read off teh screen again today. grrr. 12She's coming through the town where I live and we will meet even if it is only for coffee did everyone see the note about the thread colors? that is really special to meet someone from the tatters anywhere 12oh, yes. What's the difference between 'ombre" and "variegated? 12Yes I saw the thread email, we need purple threads ombre = light med dark med light med dark med light etc 07Yes purple! 12and ombre is what we're "allowed", right? variegated = separate and distince colors, pink blue green yellow 12ok, so no variegated. 12Yes it is exciting to be able to meet an online tatter here at my homeground, roflol OK Suz and Marie please send your emails in as I am forwarding them to the company yep no variegated 12Ombre variegated then 12Ok, I sent an e-mail to you abotu thread colors already. 12No sorry, ombre purple ok great purple is always my passion 07Marie Smith Anderson SC tattingwithmarie@yahoo.com Mariea nd i got to go the Palmettos events this tear year 07Is that what you wanted Georgia? 12Can you reveal what the name of the thread is? it was a great event that is fine Marie I just meant to email a message about the color thread choices :) 07Not much thread made here anymore no I can't yet and not the manufacturer yet 12OK, thanks it seems like so much of the thread come for different places overseas these days little fom the USA 07I am glad someone is going to make new colors. me too I like the turquoise and Chocolate Brown Hershey's BRown I'll bet 07They usually discontinue some 12and in many places, you ahve to order it online because nobody "local" stocks tatting threads except for the el-cheapo "bedspread cotton" that is terrible thread, too! 12I can only get the threads online except for white Aida and DMC I still miss those lovely variegate Manuela threads well thank goodness for online suppliers! ok let's sign in please 05I can get 5 colors of Cebelia size 20.... 12Yes true 05and they're awful colors, too. GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA SEPT. 24TH, 2007 OUR LESSON TODAY CONCERNS THE CLASS PROJECTS 05Stephanie Wilson trompete@bellsouth.net Athens, Georgia, USA THE LINKS ARE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/ptg/bdayflowersnotes.html 12Susanne aka Dantatter@gmail.com - from Aarhus in Denmark A DISCUSSION ON DESIGNING AND http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/ptg/birthdayflowersbk.html 07Marie Smith tattingwithmarie@yahoo.com Anderson SC USA SUGGESTED FLOWERS FOR THE BIRTHDAY FLOWER OF THE MONTH AND FLOWER PHOTOS LET'S LOOK AT THE FLOWER PHOTOS BRIEFLY FIRST PLEASE IN THE SEARCH FOR A LIST OF BIRTHDAY FLOWERS I FOUND THAT MORE THAN ONE FLOWER WAS CONSIDERED THE RIGHT FLOWER SO IN MOST CASES I HAVE NOTED 3 CHOICES AND I PHOTO IS GIVEN WHERE i COULD FIND ONE THE EMAIL TODAY SHOWS THAT A FWE OTHER PHOTOS HAVE BEEN FOUND AND I WILL UPDATE THE PAGE AFTER CLASS SO WE NEED TO DECIDE 3 THINGS ABOUT THE BOOKLET 05Oohh..I love stargazer lilies....they're gorgeous. ME TOO OH! NOTE THE sEPT. MORNING GLORY PHOTO i TOOK THE PHOTO MY SELF IN aLASKA AT THE sTATE EXPERIMENTAL FARM AND IT WON A PHOTO CONTEST I NEVER FOUND OUT WAS IT WAS UNTIL AFTER WORDS 05that's really a pretty one, too. 12Awesome I DIDN'T MORNING GLORY CAEM IN COLORS LIKE THAT OK 07They are beautiful *** Tatter has joined #tatchat PLEASE TURN TO THE DESGIN PAGE *** Tatter is now known as needledreams WELCOME WALLY! hi all! sorry i'm late 05In the South they look a little different, but they come in a lot of colors...and grow wild. MARIE THIS IS WALLY SOSA 05Hi Wally! 05Got another motif done! 12cool! 12I haven't finish anything today 07Hi Wally WALLY WE JUST LOOKED 12Hi Marie AT THE FLOWER PHOTOS AND NOW WE ARE TURNING TO THE DESIGN NOTES http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/ptg/bdayflowersnotes.html *** Tatter has joined #tatchat WELCOME TATTER *** Tatter is now known as Kate KATE GOOD TO SEE YOU HERE Hi Georgia! And all! LATECOMERS PLEASE SIGN IN Kate Huttar, Dallas, TX USA 12wally sosa, egypt, needledreams@yahoo.com SO WE JUST LOOKED AT THE BIRTHDAY FLOWER LIST AND WE ARE TURNING TO THE DESIGN NOTES PAGE 07Hi Kate 12did u got the photos i sent? WE NEED TO ANSWER 3 QUESTIONS *** Tatter has joined #tatchat I HAVE 3 EMAILS I NTHE INBOX WALLT TTHANKS 12ok. Hiya TATTER TO CHANGE YOUR NAME TYPE /NICK YOURNAME HI YA TATTER 12yahoo has been acting weird on me today. 12wasn't sure if they got out THE THREE DECISIONS ARE *** Tatter is now known as JaneEb It's JaneEb struggling to change my nickname AGAIN!!! 1. ARE WE GOING TO USE ONLY NEW PATTERNS NEVER USED ANYWHERE BEFORE? 12Hi Jane! 07Hi Jane HEY JANE YOU MADE IT! 05HI Jane! Hi all!! Hi Jane! 2. ARE WE GOING TO OFFER ONLY ONE FLOWER SELECTION FOR THE MONTH OR MORE? 12Hi Jane 3. ARE WE GOING TO INCLUDE PATTERNS FOR LEAVES 121. yes 122. no 123. yes 12lol Make up yer mind, Wally!!! 12i'm just answering the questions. :) OK THANKS WALLY Ah, gotcha!! 07I agree with Wally. Yes, no, yes! In that order DOES ANYONE ELSE HAVE A DECISION YET 12I think that it depends if we can get all new pattern for all the flowers. 05ok....there is a carnation pattern from sometime around last Mother's Day on Georgia's lesson index Hmmm.... 1. Seems like new patterns would help encourage new designs. 05that I think will be hard to improve OK GOT MARIE 05It makes a really wonderful carnation. On the other hand, there are some wonderful patterns already in existence that I would love having on something like this. STEPH I THINK THAT THE PATTERNS SHOULD BE ALL NEW ALSO I LOOK AT IT LIKE THIS WE HAVE LOTS OF PATTERNS SHARED ONLINE ALREADY 05Either way is fine. I think new designs or you'll have the problem of tracking and checking with the designer for permission???? SO WHY WOULD ANYONE WANT TO DONATE $$ TO THE SCHOLARSHIP FUND 12SOme flowers are look alike because they're from the same family, so if we can make variations of a pattern tehn we'll have less patterns to make FOR SOMETHING THEY CAN PRINT FOR FREE? 12that's right 05Well....that's another consideration - the designer of an already-existing 05pattern would ahve to agree to donate it...for the book Good point. 12i would preffer all new patterns SO JANE VOTES YES ON 1? HOW ABOUT 2 AND 3? ANY OTHER VOTES? 05ok...on the how many flowers question - YES STEPH? 05Why not see if more than 1 flower design is submitted for each month? 05I mean, if all we GET are ....lilies.... GOOD POINT 05then we don't have to wonder if we need to include the other flowers for that month. 2. If there are... exactly what Stephanie said. :) 05And if we get tons of good designs for everything on the list, 12also I think some people are going to do flat flowers and other 3-d flowers 05then we ca ninclude them all for that month. yes, exactly! Would be nice to have both flat and 3D OK WE VOTE NOT TO DECIDE ON #2 12lol AND EVRYONE VOTES YES ON #1 AND #3 RIGHT? 3. Leaves are good. yes 12yep. we need more leaves!!! I THINK IT WOULD ROUND OUT THE BOOK TO HAVE LEAVES 12I can't make bouquets without leaves! SEVERAL TYPES ACTUALLY 05Leaves would be excellent, especially for bouquets of 3-D flowers. 05I'm not much on botany....do the leaves of these flowers look similar? OK i WILL ADD THESE VOTES WITH THE EVENING CLASS FOR A TOTAL LAER TONIGHT 07Sounds good. not to vote on 2 yet.I love leaves as much as the flowers 12a lot of these flowers look alike NEARLY EVERY FLOWER LOOKS A BIT DIFFERNT LOOK AT THE PHOTO PAGE OTS OF LEAVES IN TEH BACKGROUND 12lots of them are long and skinny Thinking about this the smallest amount needed are 12. If you ask for flower designs giving the guidlines for the seasons (bearing in mind our seasons do vary) then wait and see what comes in then decisions can be made on how many for each month and whether they are 3D or flat! Phew, I'm exhausted!! YOU KNOW THE LEAVES ON THE MAIDENHAIR FERN 12But leaves would have to be cluny tatting, right ? ARE EVEY BIT AS PRETTY AS A FLOWER I THINK 05for 3-D flowers we might have a sort of "generic" shape, then alter it to get the individual kinds of flowers, maybe? THAT IS POSSIBLE STEPH THAT SUMS IT UP JANE 05We don't need cluny for leaves - just a shape. You could have a lacy leaf without cluny tatting.... 12or they can be generic leaves. like a florist use different folliage for a bouquet TRUE BUT CLUNIES ARE LOVELY FOR LEAVES ESP THE HANGING CLUNY TALLY 12I think we should not use a lot of cluny tatting, it is not a technique everyone can do 05oh, I didn't think about a florist's bouquet.... OK HAS EVERYONE HERE TODAY DESIGNED A PATTERN BEFORE HUH? JANE? 12I have an idea for the snowdrop and it's clunny snowdrops. :) WE NEED BABY'S BREATH FORA FILLER Duh, let me think about that, AKA!!! OOHHH WALLY YGG KATE SUSANNE YOU HAVE DESIGNED BEFORE? 05no 05never 12What is so funny designing something only a few can tat OK THEN LET'S JUST LOOK AT THE BASICS 07I do iris and violets and several different leaves Well, Stephanie, now's the time to have a bash. YES BUT IT WILL INSPIRE MANY EVEN IF THEY CAN'T TAT IT YET 12No I am not a designer, I just turn edgings into bookmarks sometimes 12at least for me, it's the challenge to learn something new. no, I am not a designer WELL SUSANNE LOOK AT THE LINK TO jANET fENTONS PAGE 05Turning a corner on an edging is about as far as I've evern gone. You too, Kate, time to have a go. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/aprilflake.html hmm... sEE SUSANNE JANET'S SNOWFLAKE AT THE BOTTOM 05ok...I see.... 12we did that also with an edging made by dr.stork. remember? RIGHT WALLY 05I'll be back in a moment THAT EDGING SUSANNE WAS TURNED INTO A SNOWFLAKE *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 12also, if you look at the tat-along project you can see how from a simple motif, people come with tons of different ideas 12i updated the albums and the motifs this week *** Tatter is now known as HoneyBeeMelissa BUT GATHERED UP IT BECOMESA FLOWER 07Hi Melissa! It's Marie! WELCOME MELISSSA LONG TIME NO READ 12Yes I have finally found it, lol HI I just saw the email for the time of the class and was like this is NOW SO GLAD YOU JOINED US 12Thanks Georgia I will study it later WE ARE DISCUSSIN THE BIRTHDAY FLOWERS BOOK AND THINKING ABOUT DESGIN OK LOOK NEXT HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/meloni/ambow.html THIS IS THE CONCEPT OF 12ah.... teh bow! BACH VS BEETHOVEN THEORY OF DESIGN 12so pretty SOIN ESSENCE WE HAVE TWO STYLES that bow is stunning would I be able to do that (is it advanced?) LIKE ANNA MELONI'S BOW WE MAKE AN OUTLINE AND WE FILL IT WITH TATTING BACH OR WE MAKE AN OUTLINE AND SURROUND THE HOLE WITH TATTING BEETHOVEN *** Tatter has joined #tatchat AND SOMETIMES THE OUTLINE ITSELF BECOMES THE DESIGN *** Tatter is now known as LindaB SEE THE PUMPKINS sorry I'm late........ http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/pumpkin1.jpg thank you LINDA HOW NICE YOU MADE IT TODAY 07Hi LindaB 12Hi Linda :-) MELISSA ANYONE CAN DO THAT BOW 05oh, that's cute! ... YU JUST MAKE A OUTLINE 05I'm back... AND TAT ANYTHING YOU WANT TO FILL IN THE HOLE MAKE IT UP AS YOU TAT ALGON ALONG AND JOIN ONCE IN A WHILE oh wow that is interesting TO THE OUTLINING EDGE I'm printing it out now 12i can't remember the name now but there's a tatter that tat's from coloring book and her designs are all split rings 05so you sort of tat from the "outside" to the inside. Don't forget to write it down as you go, though!! RIGHT STEPH SO THE BACH METHOD WHERE YOU FILL IN THE HOLE 05oh....I've always tried to figure out how to get from teh middle to the outside. 05Maybe that's why it never worked for me. AND BE LIGHT AN AIRY AS I NTHIS BOW OF ANNA'S BUT COMPARE IT TO THE BLOCKED TATTED IRIS BY SIEGLINDE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/blocktat/irispattern.html I think the pattern you mentioned Wally is on AK's website..isn't it "heidi" *** Tatter has joined #tatchat THE THE HOLE IS COMPLETELY FILLED WITH LACE STITCHES FOR THAT IS BECOMES "FABRIC" 12Ithink her name is Mary, but can't remember well *** Tatter is now known as icela MARY WELCOME! 12like ruth scharf (sp) leaves Hi G ALL SPLIT RINGS? HMM THE NAME ESCAPES ME YES THE BLOCKED TATTED IRIS 07Hi Mary 12yep, I received from here a turtle but i lost it SHARES THAT SAME SORT hi marie Hi Mary OF DENSENESS WITH THE RUTH SCHARF TYPE LEAVES hi kate 12hi mary http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/gerdabfly.html LOOKING AT THE PAGE YOU CAN SEE THAT THE RUTH SCHARF TYPE OF LEAF CAN BE USED I NOTHE WAYS 12yep HERE THE WINGS OF A BUTTERFLY hello needle dreams OR PETALS FOR A POINSETTIA OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THESE POINTS OF DESIGNING ANY ADDITIONS OR SUGGESTIONS? 05I'll need to print this stuff out and study it a while. mARY NEEDLE = WALLY YES THERE IS A LOT TO CONSIDER lol I forgot Wally, good to see you again 12:( u forgot about me! 05Personally I like the lacy airy stuff best, but that's just "me." that is why my brain hurts...LOL 1. ARE WE GOING TO USE ONLY NEW PATTERNS NEVER USED ANYWHERE BEFORE? 2. ARE WE GOING TO OFFER ONLY ONE FLOWER SELECTION FOR THE MONTH OR MORE? 3. ARE WE GOING TO INCLUDE PATTERNS FOR LEAVES I did not link you with needledreams... LATECOMERS PLEASE CONSIDER THESES THREE QUESTIONS FOR THE BOOK I loved doing Gerda's butterfly. 12ok, i'll forgive u. XOXO what do you think we should do G I don't care for my months flower is there more options we can have? (march) WELL i MENTIONED EARLIER THAT THE BIRTHDAY FLWOER LIST DO NOT ALL AGREE OH, I love daffodils! :) It is my flower too. :) SO I CAN KEEP CHECKING ON IT MEL 13well I have an iris pattern from my flower garden. 05oh, I love daffodils, too. JOnquils look similar - WELL I VOTED YES ON 1 DEFER TO LATER ON 2 AND YES ON 3 very similiar LOL I love my month but don't care for the daffs so much I'd rather have a sweet pea LOL There are so many kinds of daffodils/jonquils. 05I sort of dread seeing the daffodils come up. WELL BOTH MARIE AND MARY AND LINDA AND OTHERS HAVE OFFERED PATTERNS 12so, are we're going to see the "progress" in designs? like a page with photos of teh flowers already made so we don't repeat a lot? BUT WE ARE STILL DECIDING IF IT WILL IS there any 'restriction' or suggestion on size of the flowers or doesn't it matter? 05I love the flowers, but it marks the start of "asthma/allergy" season for me. BE ONLY NEW UNPUBLISHED PATTERNS FOR THE BOOKLET NOT SO FAR AS i CAN IMAGINE JANE YOU THINKING OF HOLLYHOCKS? What are the time restrictions, too? 05well...for me to get good at this, the deadline will have to be sometime in 2015 BEFORE THE NEXT PTG MEETING MARIE IS THERE A DATE SET YET? 12lol LOL NOW STPEH 13LOL 12lol Stephanie Daft moo, Steph!! 07Not yet lol, me too, but more like 2050! OK WELL LET'S JUST SAY BEFORE sEPT 08 13my strawberry petals form a lot of other flower petals FOR THOSE THAT CAME LATE WOULD YOU LIKE TO VOTE? OR EMAIL ME IS OK TOO 13maybe they will make it may Thanks - may even get my bfa into gear to do one by then!! 13do you think marie not sure what the votings for 12so, are we're going to see the "progress" in designs? like a page with photos of teh flowers already made so we don't repeat a lot? WELL I WAS THINKING ABOUT ONION RINGS FOR FEB yes, to all three questions for me.