Session Start: Wed Jun 20 14:05:20 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat <|Pia|> I move with my Family on Oktober to canada New Brunswick, 13what color/colors did you work the celtic bookmark, Pia? 12I'm ...hmmm...about an hour and a half, maybe a few more minutes, from Atlanta...sort of north-east hello all 12Hi Georgia! 13hi Georgia..we're getting aquaninted. <|Pia|> Light orange and yellow and red welcome one and all to the solstice event 13oh wow, I bet that's beautiful. Pia is new to class? 12I've been looking forward to this since the last Monday night class. <|Pia|> Iam in the first class great! we are so glad you could join us Pia here is the lesson for today http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/brigittenbuttons.html bring it up on screen or go print it off to follow along <|Pia|> and from germany Here is my Blog Http://www.schwanewede.org/blog and there is the first of den Bookmarks I make 12Ok, I have it printed. very nice pia, great bookmark I love your quilting and socks too 13yes, the quilts are beautiful too. <|Pia|> yes I do what I can :-) 13how long have you been tatting Pia? 13small class here today. *** Tatter has joined #tatchat yes but this is summer here stateside *** Tatter is now known as Bob welcome bob let's sign in please GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Sorry I'm late, computer trouble 12Stephanie Wilson, Athens, Georgia, USA swwilson@uga.edu JUNE 20 , 2007 ONLINE TATTING CLASS CELEBRATES THE SOLSTICE Ria "Bob" Kishen Wirral UK <|Pia|> Iam fresh in tatting now 4 weeks , the Bookmark I finshed in 4 days WITH CREATIVE BUTTON DESIGNS 13Linda Barnes Woodbridge, VA, US lingram2@comcast.net THAT IS GREAT PIA, BOB GO SEE PIA'S FIRST BOOKMARL Http://www.schwanewede.org/blog THE LESSON http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/brigittenbuttons.html 13only 4 weeks and you've tatted the celtic bookmark, WOW! THE INSPIRATION http://www.teddys-handarbeiten.de/ <|Pia|> yes CHRISTINE SALZINGER'S WORK WAS THE INSPIRATION FOR TODAYS' LESSON HAS EVERYONE VISITED HER PAGE ALREADY? 13yes GOOD! <|Pia|> Yes I read the page bRIGITTE NETTLES CONTACTED CHRISTINE AND ARRANGED TO USE HER METHOD TO BRING THIS LESSON TOTHE ONLINCE TATTING CLASS *** Tatter has joined #tatchat .WELCOME TATTER *** Tatter is now known as LadyShuttleMaker THE BUTTONS USED IN THE LESSON WELCOME SHERRY PLEASE SIGN IN <|Pia|> and I must By tomorrow the Buttons CAN BE PURCHASED STATESIDE AT WAL*MART ON EBAY AT on ebay http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=beadinmama item # 8200069070 Jun-19-05Jul-09-07 02:30:02$2.99New 7/8" Prym Creative Button Forms (pack of 10)8200069146 Jun-19-05Jul-09-07 02:31:13$2.99New 7/8" Prym Creative Button Forms (pack of 10) Sherry Pence Boise Id. Ladyshuttlemaker@hotmail.com AND ONLINE UK http://www.kcgtrading.com/tools.php scroll down to m for make your own buttons AND TEH PACKAGE OF BUTTONS LOOK LIKE: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/prymbuttonpackage.jpg ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE TYPEOF BUTTON BEING USED? OK THE BUTTON IS ROUND AND HAS CIRCULAR GRID 12sorry, no question about the buttons, I've been off admiring Pia's work. Very nice indeed! YES IT IS, REMIND ME TO SHOW YOUT HE MOTIF FOR A TATTED QUILT BLOCKPIA LATER THE SECOND AND THIRD PHOTOS OF THE LESSON SHOW THE GRID VERY WELL THE BUTTON IS TO BE COVERED WITHTHREAD BRIGITTE ADVISED THAT WE START AT THE EDGE AND YU CAN EITHER CROCHET AROUND IT OF EVEN BETTER TAT AROUND IT THE THIRD PHOTO SHOWS THE NEEDLE BEING USED AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE AND THE DS ARE "WRAPPED" ON IN THE MANNER OF COVERING THE BARE THREAD IN A SPLIT CHAIN ANY QUESTION ABOUT THE EDGE? 12I'm fine with the edge. OK NOTE THAT YOU CAN ADD PICOTS TO IT ALSO I think I'm ok with that too. NEXT WE ECORATE THE INSIDE WITH FANCY STITCHES AND FANCY THREAD HERE ARE SOME SOURCES OF INSPIRATION NEEDLEWEAVING http://www.georgiaseitz.com/weave/needleweavetat.html i HOPE THAT I TYPED THAT RIGHT THANK GOD NESS FOR COPY AND PASTE BUTTONS <|Pia|> My Daughter is sitting by me, and she say: please make once from me :-) HERE YOU CAN SEE THAT NEEDLEWEAVING HAS BEEN USED WITH TATTING FOR DECADES Gruss Gott kleine Madchen! Wilkommen bei uns THERE ARE LOTS OF VARIATIONS THE 1896 BUTTERICK BOOK POSTED IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN ARCHIVE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/publicindex.html HAS ABOUT 10 PAGES OF GUIPURE PATTERNS, YOU CAN ALSO LOOK AT LACIS, OR NET LACE DARNING FOR IDEAS A WELL NOTE STEP 5 BRIGITTE REMINDS US TO ADD THE CENTER BEAD OR ACCENT I SUSPET ANYTHIN GYOU CAN SEW ON WOULD WORK IF IT CAN BE THREAD UP OK SO FAR? 12like a small charm or something? YES! 13those little filagree gold circle sewn on? Yes I'm with you. Mum's just rung so I'm a bit distracted. back soon. OK BOB 12or a tiny heart or flower OK NOW WE ARE ALL DECORATED UP IT'S TATTING TO ADD MORE TATTING GOOD SUGGESTION STEPHANIE AS YOU LOOK AT THE TWO EXAMPLES BRIGITTE MADE FOR US YOU CAN SEE' THAT SHE USED AN ALTERNATING RING AND CHAIN REPEATS WITH THE CHAINS JOINING TO THE TATTED/CROCHETED EDGE SO NOW WE NEED TO GET INSPIRED WITH OUR TATTING ANY EDGING I SUPPOSE MIGHT WORK DEPENDING ON HOW WIDE AND HOW FANCY BUT HERE ARE SOME IDEAS FOR PREVIOUS LESSONS <|Pia|> and with a needel in behind for a brooch (pin) http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/beads.html midway flower that looks like sunburst. i.e., sunflower beaded RIGHT PIA VERY NECESSARY TO MAKE PIN FOR GIFT GIVING SO RIGHT OFF W CAN ADD MORE AND MORE BEADS!!! AND CHECK OUT THE FLOWER WITH ENCAPSULATED STEM HERE and look at the bottom of this page to see the flower with encapsulated stem from 1896, looks very similar to the beaded sunflower http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/corner/cornertrio.html ANDON THAT SMAE PAGE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/corner/cornertrio.html second one could be snowflake or sunburst NEED MORE IDEAS? <|Pia|> I steal my Daughter some beads :-) she have some GOOD! cAN SHE TAT YET? <|Pia|> No she will learn in the holidays SO LOOKING FOR SUNBURST IDEAS CHECK OUT DAN THE TATMEISTER'S ASAHI SUNBURST and check out Dan's Asahi Sunburst http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/misc_links_instructions_asahi_color_frameset.html http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/misc_links_instructions_asahi_frameset.html PATTERN WITH DIAGRAMS AND COLOR VERSION I'M GLAD SHE IS GOING TO LEARN TATTING PIA, GREAT OPPORTUNITY FOR QUALITY TIME WITH KIDS <|Pia|> we have now 6 weeks Summer holidays STILL NEED IDEAS?? You're full of ideas, Georgia!! 13those should keep us busy for quite a while. WELL THEY OFTEN SAY I'M FULL OF SOMETHING BOB! WELL CHECK THESE OUT BEFORE YOU STOP and Lily Morales' variation of the pattern by Karey Solomon http://www.loopylacer.com/free_stuff/patterns/starburst/ THIS ONE USES BUTTONS ON THE ARMS AND YOU COULD DO THE FANCY BUTTONIN THE CENTER 10That last one is pretty AND REMEMBER HOW WE STUDIED THE CATHERINE WHEEL JOIN RECENTLY? WOULDN'T A NICE COILED WHEEL BE PERFECT AROUNS A FANCY BUTTON?? the catherine wheel done in sunbright orange would be a a great sunsburst http://www.snowgoose.cc/friv/cath_wheel.htm or http://www.ds9designs.com/patterns_free/CatherineWheelJoin.pdf I remember it from a while ago. BUT THIS COULD BE THE ICING ON THE CAKE OR THE TOPPER ON THE TREE SO TO SPEAK and see http://www.georgiaseitz.com/coats14/coats14.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/coats14/pg8.jpg the square/diamond pattern on the right could easily be made into a sunburst or shining star for the top of an holiday tree, perhaps will the addition of long picots to make "sunrays"? 13http://www.teddys-handarbeiten.de/xstricklieslkette-mit-knopf.htm IF THOSE PICOTS WERE MADE REALLY LONG AND IN GLITZY THREAD IT WOULD BE A REALLY SNAZZY DECORATION I THINK <|Pia|> She can knitt and chroched she is 12 years old I told and show her so much I can 13here Christiane uses the motifs for a necklace. That diamond pattern is lovely 13wow Pia...that's wonderful that she can do those things already. THOSE ARE JUST LOVELY IDEAD CHRISTINE HAS I THOUGHT SO TOO BOB WELL YOUR DAUGHTER WILL LEARN TATTING VERY EASILY I HOPE! Christiane sounds like a very talented young lady! Hang on, your daughter isn't Christiane, sorry. trying to talk to Mum and keep uo with class isn't a good idea. *** Tatter has joined #tatchat <|Pia|> I buy 3 new shuttels so can she learn with me :-) *** Tatter is now known as Kate Hi all WELCOME KATE 12hi Kate Hullo Kate DOES ANYONE HAVE A PATTERN IN MIND THAT MIGHT WORK WELL WITH THESE BUTTONS? I'm 32 and can't knit, so i'm very impressed with a 12 year old who can do so many differnt crafts already. 13well I'm 55 and can't knit either. The buttons might lend themselves to a bookmark pattern, like some of the ones with normal buttons, but fancier. SO THESE ARE ALL GOOD IDEAS! <|Pia|> She see me work on many thinks an so I show her , Learning by doing. In school doesnd learn so exclusiv work ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE METHOD? 12hmmm...they have a little bump on the back, so I'm not sure they'd fit well in a book. TRIM THE SHANK OFF STEPHANIE Or a fancy suncatcher middle. Doesn't Jane E have suncatchers on her website? I DO THAT TO BUTTONS OFFS OFTERN OFTERN GEEZ OFTEN I NEUTER TEH BUTTON TO USE IT IN A DESIGN 12How about fastening one to a barrette (plain) - either sew it somehow or glue it. OHH POSSIBILITIES THERE 12That might look nice in a little girl's hair. <|Pia|> Iam 37 years old :-) << OLD AS DIRT Earrings and a pendant? I haven't seen the buttons in real life, but they don't look too big MAYBE A BRIDAL HEADPIECE? 12ohhh, earrings would be FUN!!! OK ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS TODAY?? THIS DISCUSSION WILL REPEAT AT 8:30 pm et 12I think I'm ok for the moment. 137/8 of an inch in diameter. 10very nice pattern I HOPE THAT NO ONE GOT FROST BITE OR SUNBURN AT THE SOLSTICE PARTY? 12How big is the center hole? 13thank you Georgia. I'm ok. Going to go back and read over what I missed while on the phone. ABOUT 1/4" OR .5 CM 10yes thank you Georgia, you classess are always packed with wonderful info :) 12I wonder if you could leave the center open, "neuter" the button, and use a post-earring as the center.... THE NEXT SUMMER EVENT OF THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS WILL BE JULY 20TH FRIDAY 3pm OR 8:30pm et THAT WILL BE THE SUMMER READING PROGRAM TATTING BOOK PARTY WELL I AM SURE GLAD YOU ALL ENJOYED IT Oooh, book party sounds fun. Yay! We don't have to go all summer with no class! :) MANY THANSK TO BRIGITTE AND CHRISTINE FOR MAKING THIS LESSON POSSIBLE 12I had fun.... I THINK THAT WOULD WORK EASY STEPH OK KEEP IN TOUCH EVERYONE HAPPY TATTING AND ENJOY THE BREAK Thanks for today, I've enjoyed it. 13by all. BYE FORNOW 12Thanks Georgia 10muchas gracias!!!! *** LindaB has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12Bye Session Close: Wed Jun 20 14:51:12 2007 Session Start: Wed Jun 20 19:10:09 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as sherong *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Kosmik-s hello there early birds isthat Patrica from Mexico? ola! Hi Sheron yes!! i'm checking if anyone needs help back soon welcome Pat take a seat and get comfortable have you seen the lesson? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/brigittenbuttons.html thank you! yes! it is very nice!, but I could not get the buttons Hi all Hi! *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter311 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter311 is now known as Stephanie 12hi. sorry i'm late *** Tatter597 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter597 is now known as mjb Not late - still free chat time. 12oh, cool! hello everybody 12Hey, just to put us in the mood, my starflowers (nicotiana) are in bloom, fully open, and they smell heavenly-sweet. hi! 12so we have pretty flowers with a sweet smell to tat by. here in Mexico, everything is turning green because of the rainy days we are having now *** Tatter is now known as Jon hello mary jane hi ya Steph 05Hello everyone 12hi! 8 more minutes open chat welcome jon good to see you here In Indiana., we are very dry., grass brown oh I wish we had that rain the corn sure needs it 12we've been in a drought in Georgia, but lately we've had enough rain to revive things. strange weather everywhere these days 05there's plenty of rain here AK, it flooded the city. 12I have a very small yard, and if I get desperate, we empty the gallon or so of water from the dehumidifier in the house on my flowers every day. I hope Dorcas can make it., Joe is in hospital not serious i hope? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat the usual welcome tatter to change your name type /nick yourname What are we doing tonight? *** Tatter is now known as Omar we are celebrating the solstice with sunburst things good job Omar! http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/brigittenbuttons.html that isthelesson 3 morem inutes open chat okay jon, omar says it is Thursday for him downunder, is it Thursday foryou too? omar just type in the same box anything you what to ask or say i think everyone fell asleep where are you from, 06Yes it is Thursday morning here, 8.40am 12Wow - Jon, Omar, what TIME on THursday is it? Kos = Patricia from Mexico Pat is this your first visit to the classroom? ok let's get started well, I have worked last week with Mili ah mimi is agreat teacher! PLEASE SIGN IN GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM JUNE 20 SOLSTICE EVENT 2007 PM SESSION OR LESSON TONIGHT IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/brigittenbuttons.html Mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus., Indiana usa 06Jon Yusoff, Kuala Lumpur, Malaysia sheron goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, columbia, sc, usa 12Stephanie Wilson, Athens, Georgia USA swwilson@uga.edu BRIGITTE NETTLES SPOTTED THE WORK OF GERMAN TATTERS CHRISTINE SALZINGER ONLINE AT 07Paty L�pez, M�xico City, patyl@gmx.net CHRISTINE SALZINGER http://www.teddys-handarbeiten.de/ THAT IS JUST BEAUTIFUL WORK BRIGITTE WORKED IWTH CHRISTINE TO BRING HER METHOD TOT HE ONLINE TATTING CLASS ADN BRIGITTE HAS PREPARED THIS STEP BY STEP HOW FOR US PAT YOU MENTIONED NO BUTTONS? THIS IS WHAT THEY LOOK LIKE The plastic buttons used may be found online at ebay and other sites and at Wal*Mart, too. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/prymbuttonpackage.jpg The Prym Creative buttons are available at Wal*Mart. also in the UK http://www.kcgtrading.com/tools.php scroll down to m for make your own buttons AND ON EBAY 07I will keep on looking for them http://members.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewUserPage&userid=beadinmama item # 8200069070 Jun-19-05Jul-09-07 02:30:02$2.99New 7/8" Prym Creative Button Forms (pack of 10)8200069146 Jun-19-05Jul-09-07 02:31:13$2.99New 7/8" Prym Creative Button Forms (pack of 10) SO THAT SHOULD HELP IF DESPARATE i WILL MAIL SOME TO YOU :) 06I have not come across them here, maybe I can improvis with something else. A PIECE OR CIRCULAR PLASTIC CANVAS WOULD WORK OR EVEN A CLOTH CENTER LET' S LOOK AT THE PHOTOS THE SECONDA ND THIRD PHOTOS SHOW 12maybe a small (1/2 inch) plastic ring? THE PLASTIC BUTTON IN GOOD DETAIL 06I have used platic curtain rings for sothing before SURE I BET THOSE WOULD BOTH BE WORKABLE BRIGITTE TELLS US TO START BY COVERING THE EDGE OF THE PLASTIC BUTTON ONE PHOTOS SHOWS CROCHET AND THE OTHER PHOTO SHOWS TATTING NOW WHO CAN GUESS HOW THAT TATTING GOT THERE? OH OH NO GUESSES? WELL SHE USED A NEEDLE AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE regular needle 12ummm....we'd rather tat than crochet? 12:-) AND "WRAPPED" THE DS ONTO THE PLASTIC EDGE JUST LIKE COVERING THE CARE THREAD 06using the needle .. like buttonhole stitching? IN A SPLIT CHAIN OR PSLIT RING YES THAT TOO JON AND NOTE SHE EVEN PUT IN PICOTS NEXT BRIGITTE SAYS FOR US TO FILL THE CENTER WITH DESIGN FANCY STITCHES FANCY THREADS HERE ARE SOME IDEAS *** Omar has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat NEEDLEWEAVING AND TATTING ARE NATURALS needleweaving for button centers http://www.georgiaseitz.com/weave/needleweavetat.html *** Tatter is now known as Omar ok Am I here now lol AND GUIPURE OR LACIS OR LACE NET DARNING PATTERNS ARE GOOG WB OMAR IN FACT IN THE PUBLIC DOMAIN ARCHIVE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/publicindex.html THE 1896 BUTTERICK BOOK HAS A SECTION OF ABOUT 10 PAGES OF GUIPURE 07I've been ckicking everything but the right thing SOMETIMES YOU CAN CLICK THE LINKS OMAR OTHRE TIMESE YOU HAVE TO OPEN ANOTHER WINDOW AND COPY AND PASTE STEP 5 REMINDS US TO BE SURE TO ADD ON TEH ACCENT BEAD IN THE CENTER Can you click on the link on this page? 07Never mind When you return after the holidays I will probably have to go thru the whole thing again 12umm...this is probably a dumb question....is Guipure a type of needle lace or is it a thread company or what? GUIPURE IS FRENCH WAY OF SAYING NEEDLE LACE/WEAVING ETC 12ohhhhh..... 07Guipure yes AFER WE HAVE ALL THE FANCY STITCHING DONE THEN WE ADD THE TATTING BRIGITTE USED AN ALTERNATING RING AND CHAIN REPEAT 07so, could we say guipure is similar to tat? AND THE CHAINS JOIN TO THE PICOTS SHE MADE O NT EHEDGE OF THE RING NO GUIPURE IS DIFFERENT FROM TATTING LOOK HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/weave/needleweavetat.html 12is the guipure stuff in french or english? SCROLL DOWN TOTHE LOWER PAGE *** sherong has quit IRC (Ping timeout) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as sherong GUIPURE IS AFRENCH WORD BUT USED IN ENGLISH AND MANY LANGUAGES TO REFER TO 07ok THE NEEDLE LACE WEAVING TYPE OF WORK WB SHERON YOU CAN SEE SOME VERY BASIC NEEDLE WEAVING ON THAT PAGE 12thanks. I sure have a lot to learn.... ME TOO, I LEARN NEW STUFF HERE ALL THE TIME :) OK ANY QUESTIONS ABOUT THE METHOD OF MAKING THE PRETTY BUTTON? me too :) 12hehehe...they say the best way to learn stuff is to teach it. I THINK THAT NEARLY ANY EDGING COULD BE USED ON THIS BUTTON *** Mimi has joined #tatchat EXACTLY TURE STEPH *** JB has joined #tatchat WELCOME MIMI PAT HAS BEEN SAYING GOOD THINGS ABOUT YOU :) 12Do you think you could use a clear bead - maybe a faceted one - or does it really "need" an opaque pearl-like bead? HELLO JB HOWS THE WEATHER DONW THERE? STORMY what a relief that I'm not in trouble WELL LET;S LOOK AT SOME IDEAS STEPH ALWAYS WELCOME MIMI HERE IS A FANCY BUTTON USED IN TEH CENTER OF A SUNCATHCHER BY WLLY SOSA fancy button http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/spangles/beadsosaroyalsuncatcher.jpg OPAQUE BUTTON COULD BE SUBSTITTUTED FINE ITHINK AND HERE 06I think a fancy button in the centre would look nice 12Wow, that's really pretty! http://www.georgiaseitz.com/ebay/store/sale/wallysmidastouch.jpg THIS ONE HAS NO CENTER AT ALL JUST A FANCY EDGE BUT IF YOU WANT TO MAKE IT A PIN THEN WE NEED SOMEWHERE TO SEW THE PIN BACK ON AND OF COURSE WE COULD DO THE SUNFLOWER APPROACH LOOK HERE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/beads.html midway flower that looks like sunburst. i.e., sunflower beaded ANY CLASSIC WHEEL FORM COULD HAVE ITS CENTER REPLACED WITH A CREATIVE BUTTON 12ooh, that's cute, too! AND CHECK THIS OUT and look at the bottom of this page to see the flower with encapsulated stem from 1896, looks very similar to the beaded sunflower http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/corner/cornertrio.html second one could be snowflake or sunburst *** Tatter has joined #tatchat WELCOME TATTER 12I guess you'd anchor all the picots in the little loop at the back of the button...and make them longer so the tatting shows around the button?