Session Start: Mon May 21 13:48:14 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as mjb *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Hello Georgia., *** Tatter is now known as Katia Hello Katia Hello Mj *** Tatter has joined #tatchat How you doing today *** Tatter127 has joined #tatchat greet great *** Tatter127 is now known as LadyShuttleMaker *** Tatter is now known as babs hello ladyshuttlemaker 02Good afternoon!!!! hello ladyshyuttlemaker lovely day in In Hey Babs you made it :) 13Hello everyone *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 13yep, thanks for your help in getting me figured out *** Tatter is now known as TATKNOT its was a pleasure Babs Hello Elize Hi Katia! *** babs has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) hello all oups no e at the end sorry i typed your name in french ;) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Hi hello Georgia *** Tatter is now known as babs No problem. It gets lots of spellings! welcome back Babs 13Thanks, I accidentally left:( 06It snow here in Idaho this morning Ole my, snow in May wow ... High of 86 here today and partly cloudy. Feels great! 06This global warming is freezing me out :) 13Wow! My husband and I were talking about that this morning *** babs has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) What happened to babs? anyone as glue to keep babs on her chair? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as DorcasAnn hi Dorcas Ann Hello DorcasAnn hi DorcasAnn Hello everyone poor babs and Joy is still trying to get inalso *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as babs 13Sorry, my computer and I are not co operating welcome back babs Eliz did you get the 3 jpgs ok? haven't checked my email didn't have time. let me go look. it is so pleasant here on the farm great breeze got the bookmark with 3 squares and another bkmk of yours *** babs has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06poor babs *** Tatter has joined #tatchat lets ask babs if she isusing mirc next time *** Tatter is now known as babs poor babs she is having alot of trouble today compare of last week babs are you using mirc? no she is nt using mirc 06what is mirc? *** pia has joined #tatchat 13Nope, I'm not using mIRC, I'm using the Int'l classroom from the beginner's class link http://www.mirc.com/get.html Thank you, Georgia! You found IT! http://www.georgiaseitz.com/mirchow2.html Erin Holloway found it for us! Welcome Pia its nice to see you 13mIRC and I don't work together:) Greeting from Germany :-) The mirc thingy is a program that help syou get into the classroom more easily those are the links to download it free I'm very grateful. Will get pattern ready for 6/4. 13Hi Pia! and there is a tutorial on how to set it up one time and you are done Heello everyboby its nice to see 2 of the beginners class here this afternoon 13I tried mIRC last week and then couldn't find anyone hello Pia Gruss Gott! we changed to Tuesday last week and next week we meet on Tuesday again because of the Memorial Day holiday 06It will be a good class... I PROMISE oh my i hope ill be ale to attend next week i have learn so many Tatting in the last week Pia, hows the weather in Willich-Anrath today? that is great news pia Its fine evening here and sherry we are really looking forward to your "cluny" class ok shall we get started? PLEASE SEIGN IN Its nnot raining Sunny an light windy GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA 06Sherry: Boise ID: LadyShuttleMaker@Hotmail.com Eliz Davis, Arkansas SOUNDS LIKE GOOD WEATHER TO TAT IN PIA Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa@hotmail.com MaryJane Brittingham Santa Claus., Indiana Yes its beetter to tat as to knit :-) Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA GENAU!! OK TODAYS ISMONDAY MAY 21, 2007 THE LESSON FOR TODAY IS THE FOLLOW UP CLASS TO THE CHALLENGE OF MAY 7 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/edavisavsquare2.html AND WE HAVE ELIZ DAVIS HERE AGAIN TO INSPIRE US WITH HER IDEAS FOR VARIATIONS ON THIS ANTIQUE SQUARE A PATTERN BY ANNA VALEIRE DOES EVERYONE HAVE THE LESSON PRINTED? 13Pauline Ely Tooele UT USA babsbrooktatting@hotmail.com My Tat from the challengee is to half ready iam in the 2. round :-) 13I do finally i LOVE THE NAME OF YOUR HOMW TOWN BABS GREAT WORK PIA KEEP AT IT OK eLIZ WOULD YOU LIKE TO START US OFF? 13Just wait until you try saying it:) To Morrow Is mak a Picture OKAY NOTICE IN BOTH PATTERNS, THE VALEIRE SQUARES ARE NOT JOINED TO EACH OTHER AS THEY ARE TATTED. JOINED WITH NEXT ROUND INSTEAD I LIKE THIS LOOK AND MAKES IT EASY TO TAT UP BUNCH OF V-SQS TO USE ANY WAY I WISH. OK TATTED AND FINISHED OFF SEPARATELY GOT IT! DO ANY OF YOU HAVE ANY OTHER IDEAS FOR WHAT THE FIRST BOOKMARK SHOULD BE CALLED? ICE CREAM CONE WAS INSPIRED BY TODAY'S DESIGN. 06It reminds me of a fleur de lis I CAN SEE THAT, LADYSHUTTLEMAKER. NOTICE ARMS ARE SAME AS CONE. ALL JOINS IN THIS PATTERN ARE TO CENTER PICOTS ELIZ I HAVE NO NAME BUT i THOUGHT OF A USE WHAT, GEORGIA? I WAS THINKING OF IT BEING THE CORNER MOTIF OF A TABLECLOTH THE SINGLE POINT LAYS ON THE TABLE 06Lovely AND TEH THREE SMALLER POINTS DANGLE OFF OH, THAT SOUNDS NICE. OKAY, BACK TO THE PATTERN. PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF I MISS SOMETHING YOU HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT. OK Mine calls if it ready my red cross. I have Red theard (flora 10) IT IS DEFINITELY A CROSS PATTERN RED, SIZE 10 WILL WORK FINE PIA, JUST BE A BIT BIGGER. ALL UNMARKED RINGS ARE 3-3-3-3 (TWO EXCEPTIONS ONLY) OK NOW THE DIFFERENCES FIRST TWO RINGS OF OUR ICE CREAM SCOOP JOINED TO EACH OTHER AND INTO SAME P OF SQ. AT THE WAIST BAND? THAT SURE COULD BE AN ANGEL WITH OUT STRETCHED ARMS NO, AK. I'M TALKING ABOUT WHERE THE ICE CREAM STARTED, BOTTOM OF SCOOP. OH THERE OK DO YOU SEE THAT SAME SET OF TWO RINGS ON SIDE, NEAR BOTTOM, OF CROSS? YES THIS TIME THEY ARE JOINED TO SAME P OF SQ BUT NOT TO EACH OTHER. JOINING TO EACH OTHER WILL PULL CHAINS ON EITHER SIDE OF THEM TOO TIGHT. WOULD HAVE TO LENGTHEN THOSE CHAINS. LETTING THEM SWING FREE, LET'S ME KEEP SAME CHAIN COUNT THROUGHOUT. NICE CONSTRUCTION IDEA QUESTIONS SO FAR? not so far OK HERE OKAY, LET'S MOVE UP THE PATTERN A BIT LOOK AT RINGS THAT CONNECT TWO V-SQS. I USED AN 8-8 RING IN THIS DIAGRAM, JOINING INTO CENTER Ps OF THE TWO SQUARES AT SAME TIME. THIS GIVES US A NICE GAP BETWEEN THE TWO SQUARES SO BOTH SQUARES' PICOTS ARE VISIBLE I SOMETIMES USE THE 3-3+3-3 RING HERE. THAT LETS ME KEEP RING COUNTS SAME THROUGHOUT. SMALLER RING BRINGS IT IN CLOSER TOO USE WHICHEVER YOU PREFER. BOTH WORK GREAT. OK THAT PRETTY WELL COVERS IT. ANY QUESTIONS? IT LOOKS LIKE IT IS ALL FRONT SIDE BACK SIDE WORK TOO 06Yes, I'm not sure I understand the alligator join I USUALLY WORK MY PATTERNS UP IN TRADITIONAL TATTING. 06This picture doesn't explain it OH OH i DON'T EVEN SEE AN ALLIGATOR JOIN WHERE IS IT NOTED sHERRY? ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE ALIGATOR JOIN IN THE V-SQ ITSELF? 06Sorry, I am refering to Eliz's Ice cream pattern OK DO YOU HAVE A PENCIL HANDY SHERRY 06The link for the alligator join isn't helpling me THE ONLY ALIGATOR JOIN IS IN THE VALEIRE SQUARE ITSELF AND YOU'LL NEED V-SQS FOR ALL OF THESE PATTERNS. 06yes 06right WHEN I'VE TATTED THAT LAST CHAIN AND I'M READY TO JOIN INTO THE BASE OF THAT FIRST SET OF RINGS OK THE PENCIL = THE PIECE OF TATTING/THREAD TO BE CAPTURED BY THE ALLIGATO JOIN YOUR LEFT HAND IS THE LOWER JAW OF TEH ALLIGATOR YOUR RIGHT HAND IS THE UPPER JAW OF THE ALLIGATOR HOLD YOUR LEFT HAND OUT PALM UP PLACE THE PENCIL IN THE PALM WITH THEPOINT AT THE BOTTOM OF THE LEFT THUMB LAY THE RIGHT HAND/JAW ON TOP OF THE PENCIL MESHING YOUR HANDS TOGETHER SEE THAT THE PENCIL STICKS OUT TO THE SIDES? 06yes THE PENCIL = THE THREAD TO BE CAPTURED THE HANDS EQUAL THE BALL THREAD AND SHUTTLE THREADS YOU JUST REACH OVER THE PENCIL AND SET THE NEXT STITCH EXTRA TIGHT LIKE THE ALLIGATOR GETTING READY TO TAKE YOU TATTTING DONE FOR THE FINAL COUNT GOT IT? 06o.k 06Very good illustration... OK ELIZ SHALL WE LOOK AT THE BOOKMARK CORNER NEXT? 06I will practice it when I can free up a shuttle ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE V-SQ OR THIS FIRST BOOKMARK? AH SHUCKS, MA'AM :) 13Oh yes, I have a question about the V-Sq WE'LL LOOK AT THIS SQUARE'S APPLICATION IN THE CORNER BOOKMARK IF THAT IS OKAY? WHEN THAT PIECE IS TURNEDWITH THE THREE POINTS DOWN YES, BABS? I KEEP SEEING A BALLERINA WITH FLOWERS IN HER ARMS 13Does the V-Sq have to have the exact same counts to make it a V-Sq? 13I mean the same number of stitches per ring and chain? I LIKE THAT, GEORGIA. :) YOU'LL WANT TO KEEP THE SAME RATIO OF STITCHES MEANING IF YOU CHANGE THE RING COUNT, CHANGE THE CHAIN COUNT, TOO. 13So you mean an 8 to 5 ratio IF YOU INCREASE THE RINGS/CHAINS BY THE SAME # OF DS THE SQUARE JUST GETS BIGGER YES, BABS. THAT'S WHAT I WOULD DO. BUT EXPERIMENT! THAT'S HOW WE ALL LEARN. IF EITHER CHANGES OTHERWISE THE CONSTRUCTION OVERALL CHANGES 13Could the ring be changed to a dimple ring? LET US KNOW HOW IT COMES OUT. TRY IT, BABS AND SEND US AN IMAGE SO WE CAN SEE HOW IT LOOKS IF YOU USED A DIMPLE RING PLAN AHEAD TO WHERE THE CHAINS WILL JOIN THE RINGS FIRST OK THEN NEXT THE NORNER BOOKMARK CORNER AND REMEMBER THAT THE COUNTS FOR THE SQ THAT I'VE GIVEN YOU WILL WORK WITH THE OTHERS ROUNDS I'VE GIVEN YOU. PIA, KRIEGST DU MIT? CHANGE THE SQ AND YOU'LL HAVE TO CHANGE THE COUNTS OF THE OTHER ROUNDS ja :) ARE WE READY FOR THE CORNER BOOKMARK? 06I love the corner bookmark :) THANK YOU! I'VE WANTED TO DESIGN ONE FOR AGES. THIS PATTERN CAME INTO BEING AS I WAS BOUNCING DOWN THE ROAD DURING THE MAY 7 CLASS SESSION. i LIKE THE WAY YOU INDICATED ON THE PHOTO WHERE TO JOIN THE FRONT HATED TO MISS CLASS, BUT YOU GET ANOTHER PATTERN! AND BACK SQUARES TOGETHER THANKS, AK. LET'S START WITH WHERE TO START. ON THE DIAGRAM I SUGGESTED YOU START WITH A CORNER RING. IF YOU WANT TO GET SAME COILED LOOK BETWEEN RINGS IN CORNER AND CHAIN COMING OUT, Its hard to read english an thinking in german. but it goes always quicker:-) YOU'LL USE BALL AND SHUTTLE AND START BY JOINING TO PICOT OF SQUARE JUST BEFORE THE RING. THIS CHAIN HAS COUNT OF 2-2-2. DO YOU SEE THE PLACE I'M TALKING ABOUT? OK GREAT PIA JUST ASK A QUESTION ANYTIME I SEE IT AFTER JOINING AT THE END OF THIS CHAIN WITHOUT REVERSING WORK, MAKE A RING OF 8-8 WITH SHUTTLE THREAD. NOW ROTATE INSTEAD OF RW AND CONTINUE CHAIN THAT WILL ENCIRCLE THIS RING. ARE YOU ALL WITH ME? CHECKING THE PHOTO yes GOT IT THE SHUTTLE JOIN INTO THE 8-8 RING GIVES THE SAME HEART SHAPE TO THE CORNER THAT EXISTS IN THE 4 PARTS OF THE V-SQ. NEW TATTERS MIGHT WANT TO REVIEW http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html FOR ROUNDER CORNER, TRY CATHERINE WHEEL JOIN. JOIN TO BASE OF RING AND CONTINUE FOLLOWING DIAGRAM. TO REVIEW JOINS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/joins/103joins.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/edging3.htm THE RED + SIGNS IN THE DIAGRAM SHOW YOU WHERE YOU WILL JOIN http://www.ds9designs.com/patterns_free/CatherineWheelJoin.pdf INTO PICOTS OF BOTH FRONT AND BACK V-SQ. MAKE SURE THE SQUARES ARE LINED UP TOGETHER! AFTER THAT LAST RED + JOIN, CONTINUE TATTING AROUND THE TOP SQ ONLY. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/lhpj/lhpj.html QUESTIONS? THIS SOUNDS LIKE SUCH A GOOD PROJECT FOR GIFT GIVING AND EASY TO WORK NO MATTER WHERE YOU ARE TRAVELING OR AT HOME I INCLUDED THE BROWN IMAGE SO YOU CAN SEE THE POSSIBILITIES FOR USING THE SQUARE AS A MOTIF FLAT AND LIGHT WEIGHT GOOD FOR MAILING TOO i have take a photo from my work in my blog under tatting Http://www.schwanewede.org/blog OK I LOOK FORWARD TO SEEING IT, PIA I'VE GOT AN APPT AND CAN'T STAY LONG ANY OTHER QUESTIONS BEFORE I HAVE TO LEAVE? 06Thank you Eliz!!!!! YOU ARE ALL VERY WELCOME Thank you Thank you 13Thank you thank ELiz thank s i SEE IT AND THE BUTTERFLY TOO P IA eLIZ GO SEE PIA'S WORK SHE DID A GRAET JOB ON THE SQUARE THANKS SO MUCH ELIZ I HOPE TO SEE YOU ALL NEXT WEEK. MORE VALEIRE SQUARE PATTERNS ARE COMING 6/4. SUPER!!!! The last photo ist th work to day I WILL. GOTTA HIT THE ROAD NOW. BYE! OK ARE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERNS BYE ELIZ *** TATKNOT has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06Can I ask an off the topic question? PIA COMPARE YOUR SQUARE TO THE GREEN SQUARE OF THE BOOKMARK OH SUER SHERRY SEE IN THE MIDDLE PIA ELIZ VARIED THE PICOTS AND JOINED THEM 06Have you ever done 5 shuttle tatting or heard of it? I HAVE ONLY USED 6/12 PERSONALLY BUT FOR THE CLASS LILY PREPARED A NEW VERSION OF AN OLD PATTERN WHICH USED 12 SHUTTLES AND KAREN BOVARD HAS PREESNTED A CLASS ok I look IN WHICH I UNDERSTAND THAT 40+ SHUTTLES WERE USED 06Are there places to see this mulit shuttle work? LET ME LOOK A MINUTE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/1896/1896.html 06Very cool... and I thought I was being clever but I am put to shame 06I just came up with a 5 shuttle grape edging http://ladyshuttlemaker.blogspot.com/ i DON'T FIND A PHOTO OF kAREN'S WORK ON FILE BUT i WILL BE HAPPY TO ASK HER OH WELL!! A GRAPE EDGING I WILL GO LOOK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? THAT IS REALLY CUTE SHERRY YOU BETTER WRITE IT UP FOR US 13Keep up the good work Sherry, very creative 06Thanks... there are some methods I used that I don't know what they are called 06or how I would even write it up hAVE YOU LOOKED AT THE ENCAPSULATION LESSON? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/encap/encap.html THAT MIGHT HELP YOU CLARIFY YOUR THOUGHTS ON IT OK THIS IS THE LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? dORCAS, MJB DID YOU TWO FALL ASLEEP? YOU ARE SO QUIET TO DAY no THIS CLASS REPEATS AT 8:30pm et NEW YORK TIME still here REMEMBER NEXT WEEK WE MEET ON TUESDAY SAME TIME SAME PLACE ANY GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS? 06Georgia, I will send you the cluny pattern soon for your review no THANKS SHERRY 13Thanks for the update on the class next week OK THANK YOU ALL FOR STOPPING BY BYE FOR NOW AND HAPPY TATTING Session Close: Mon May 21 15:01:15 2007 Session Start: Mon May 21 19:08:25 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as LindaB Hi Georgia! *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Terry Hi Georgia, where's everybody? Hi Linda Our tatting group meets tonight so I just bopped in for a minute. 05hi Terry...sorry I was doing a bit of web surfing..how are you tonight? I'm great 05I don't know...it doesn't start until 8:30pm, right? I have our group one Monday night and teach one monday nite so don't get her very often Yes, that's 5:30 CA time 06I missed last week too. I stopped by then too hello all Where in the world are you 06it's 8:30pm in Virginia. Hi Georgia. still early 06Hi Georgia. I have 16 part the hour past I know but it's tatting group tonight ah 06I like to come early, if I can..so I can chat a little before the class. I was out playing car all day today, getting new one registered, smogged, etc. i posted your bookmark in the homework files busy, crazy day and I took a good look at the Jacobs photo will start looking for it Oh good, I hope someone recognizes it. I have it nearly done. oh neat new car New very old car hello linda It's a 1989 Jaguar. Totally cool oh my how fancy 06oh neat..a convertible of course. pretty racy too It feels like you're sitting on the ground No, but in FANTASTIC condition you restored it? 06that great, what color? Lovely leather seats, wood interior stuff, white Everything seems to work. We took it in and had it prettied up and they washed the engine I got as far as the left had turn lane in a 5 lane road and it died. Had to get a tow truck 06that so neat. 06your bracelet is pretty! Thanks!! My group is going to do them tonight so I can show them the sssr *** Tatter has joined #tatchat welcome tatter *** Tatter is now known as sherong hello sheron Hi Georgia Hello Sheron Hi Terry and Linda also 06hi Sheron What's up? What's everyone tatting on these days? working on xmas ornaments this summer and pincushions I'm working on a forever project, an altar cloth that will be 48" X 23" I have the width but will be doing the length forever. It's a neat pattern done in 4 rows so no ends to mess with 06I'm working on "star spangled doily" by Sharon Albers is it all tatt or edging? I'm also working on a butterfly that I saw on a web site. the picture was 1" square Altar cloth is all tatting I'll send a picture I remember that doily. Itj's lovely 06it is pretty, but I'm having problems with the last row cupping on me. I also did 3 bookmarks this week and have a 4th nearly done. 06I have to figure out how many increases that I need to make for it the lay flat. I do a lot of test tatting on doily patterns to try to avoid that *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 06you sure have been busy, Terry. I haven't tatted very much lately, been crocheting purses. I tat pretty steadily. I'm not fast, just steady I teach 2 classes a month and have a group that meets once a month. I always have a project for them We are doing a bracelet tonight 06you sure are a busy lady!