Session Start: Mon May 07 13:55:02 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat hello all Jane is that you? HI Kate *** Tatter is now known as Katia Hello Kate and Georgia hi Katia! what a morning for phone calls eh? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as mjb welcome Mary Jane Hello Georgia How is your Mother? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat I'm here!!! *** Tatter is now known as JaneEb Hello JaneB *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Hiya hello MJ and Jane hi ya Jane welcome tatter Thanks for the nudge, AKA!!!!! mom is better it was a rough week but all is well Hello anytime J *** Tatter is now known as SueF hello tatter welcome that;s good Sue good to see you Thanks, glad to hear your mom's better Eliz's ice cream cone is darling! yes it is a clever idea I wonderful what else it will be used for next? I bet Jane could make it something for Tatland ok Jane you are on! http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/edavisavsquare.html everyone got the pattern ok? Ooops, reminds me there's a tatperson still to be done but ..... I have the pattern this time great mj always another tat person lurking, the display was a great hit Jane at Spokane 5 more minutes I get bored with things so quickly that's why there's been no more for a while. Currently working on 1 ring 3D earwigs! Better call Dorcas., be right back. I love your newest earing Jane Hello everyone Just having a nap so I can stay awake to have some ice cream! 1 ring 3d earrings oh my where? glad you woke up Kate :) Well, a bead magazine asked me for something VERY simple so it's just rings and loadsa beads! Mind, haven't heard from them for a month!!! These earwigs are for a friend!! oh well! then I'll be watching the covers of the bead magazines! has everyone seen the tatting with the coronation cord in the homework files by Dan Rusch-Fischer? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/homeworkindex.html shall we start? PLEASE SIGN IN GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa@hotmail.com The link didn't work for me. MAY 7 2007 Mary Jane Brittingham, Santa Claus, Indiana usa Jane Eborall - somewhere in the UK!!!!! Link didn't work for me either!! THE LESSON IS PRESENTED BY ELIZ DAVIS OF ARKANSAS THE HOMEWORK LINK? Kate Huttar, Dallas, TX, uSA, katelingo at huttar dot net the specific link for the coronation cord DRAT BRB Language, dear AKA, language!!! here the link guys ;) http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/edavisavsquare.html Susan K Fuller Loveland Colorado rlskfuller@comcast.net OK TRY NOW http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/homeworkindex.html WELL i HOPE THAT WORKED BETTER. dAN rf IS A VOLUNTEER AT THE LACE MUSEUM AND HIS WORK WAS FEATURED THIS MONTH AT A FANMCY MUSEUM EXHIBITION Here is the link it is trying to go to, but still no luck. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/http ALONG WITH A FEW OTHER LACEMAKERS WE MIGHT KNOW *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** SueF has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) HIT THE REFRESH BUTTON FOR THE PAGE SO IT WIL LPICK UP THE CORRECTION *** Tatter has left #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat OH DEAR THEY ARE FALLING LIKE FLIES whoops closed the wrong box THAT HAPPENS SO OFTEN WHEN WE LOOK AT SOMETHING DURING CLASS LOL *** Tatter is now known as SueF Or fleas? WB sF *** Tatter has joined #tatchat LOL WELL AT LEAST NOT TICKS!! I tried, but still not working. Maybe it is just me. I'll try later. HAS EVERY ONE HEARD THE TICK JOKE TODAY? nope oh, no! not the fleas no hno Ooooh, you've heard it toooooo?!?!?!? Wasn't it that naughty boy Mark that started it? TICK WARNING! > I hate it when people forward bogus warnings, and I > have even done it myself a couple times unintentionally...but this one > is real, and it's important. So please send this warning to everyone > on your e- mail list. > If someone comes to your front door saying they are > checking for ticks due to the warm weather and asks you to take your > clothes off and dance around with your arms up, DO NOT DO IT!! > THIS IS A SCAM!! They only want to see you naked. > I wish I'd gotten this yesterday. I feel so stupid. ROFL good one lol OK NOW i GUESS I SHOULD GET SERIOUS BUT DAN' WORK IS REALLY GREAT HOPE YOU CAN SEE IT LATER SO NOW THE DAVIS PATTERN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/edavisavsquare.html eLIZ AND HER HUSBAND ARE ONA TRIP AND SHE HOPES TO BE WITH US TONIGHT BUT SENDS HER GREETINGS TODAY AS YOU READ SHE TOOK AN ANTIQUE PATTERN AND USED IT AS THE JUMPING OFF POINT FOR A NEW DESIGN THE YELLOW SQUARE HAS TEH DS COUNT ON IT BUT REMEMBER THAT THE RINGS DO NOT JOIN IN THE FIRST ROUND SO IT WILL FLOP ABOUT THE OUTER ROW AFFORDS A LOT OF POSSIBILITES FOR PICOT PLAY eLIZ USED THE ALLIGATOR JOIN TO CLIMB OUT INTO THE OUTER ROW IS THERE ANOTHER WAY WE COULD TAT THIS? What is a alligator join REMEBER THE JAWS OF AN ALLIGATOR OPEN WIDE AND CLAMP DOWN ON SOMETHING SO YU TAKE ONE THREAD UNDER THE WORK AND ONE THREAD OVER THE WORK AND THEN CLAMP DOWN AND MAKE THE NEXT HS/DS A VERY TIGHT ONE IT IS JUST A WAY TO CROSS OVER THERE IS A LINK TO THAT JOIN ON THE LIST Oh, I didnt' know that join had a name!! I'm using it in a Palmetto pattern this year!!! OH SUPER JANE! THE "OFFICIAL" TERM FOR IT IS THE "BURDA CAPTURE JOIN" BYT BUT THE CLASS THAT ALLIGATOR JOIN WAS MORE DESCRIPTIVE AFTER CLIMBING OUT That's when you take the shuttle thread over and the chain under another part of the pattern? Is that the join? THE CHAINS ATTACHED OVER THE SPACE OF THREAD BETWEEN THE TWO RINGS I saw your photo AK, are there written directions or diagram too? YES THAT IS THE JOIN LET ME LOOK SUE *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) I DON'T SEE ANY OTHER PHOTOS WILL MAKE ONE IF YOU NEED IT *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatter) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat OK thanks for looking NOW THE CHAINS JOINED TO THAT SPACE BETWEEN THE TWO RINGS WITH A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN I printed the pattern., but no directions WHAT OTHER JOIN COULD WE USE? OK MJB i WILL MAKE A LITTLE BLURB FOR IT WE COULD WRAP A DS OVER THE THREAD thanks AS IF WE WERE DOING A SPLIT CHAIN NOW WHAT ABOUT THOSE 4 PICOTS IN THE CENTER OF THE MOTIF *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) ELIZ DID NOT JOIN THEM I THINK IT WOULD BE A GREAT PLACE TO MAKE LONG PICOTS AND CROSS THEM WHEN JOINING WHAT DO YOU THINK? good idea, or swirl join Or a ring on the first chain and then join the rest to picots on that ring! YES SWIRL JOIN GOOD IDEA TOO OK AFTER THE SQUARE IS DONE THEN ELIZ GOT FUNKY WITH IT SHER ADDED THE ROUND OF RINGS AND CHAINS FOR THE ICE CREAM PART AND A LITTLE SQUIGGLE FR THE CONE AND VOILA A COOL TREAT FOR TATTERS THAT RING WOULD BE GOOD FILLER TOO JANE NOW ABOUT THE CONE THE TWO LOWER RINGS JOIN THE TWO UPPER RINGS ARE SPACED WIDE APART AND DO NOT JOIN BUT WHAT IF THE FIRST UPPER RING AND THE FIRS LOWER RING AND THOSE LONG PICOTS ON THEM AGAIN? IF THEY CROSSED OVER WHEN JOINED YOU WOULD HAVE A LITTLE DIAMOND PATTERN THERE JUST LIKE ON THE DQ CONES! Super idea It would look cute on a note card for a party invite EXCELLENT IDEA we need a cake to go with it HMM I'M UP FOR CAKE SO THEN ELIZ LEAVES US WITH A CHALLENGE USE THIS SQUARE IN OUR OWN DESIGN IN THE NEXT TWO WEEKS THEN SEND IN THE PHOTO A SCAN JPG ETC OR THE REAL THING IF YOU NEED IT SCANNED AND WHO KNOWS THERE MIGHT BE A PRIZE INVOLVED ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERN? not for now not at the moment *** Tatter has joined #tatchat not now sorry I'm late. *** Tatter is now known as Linda WELL GLAD TO SEE YOU ANYTIME BUT WE ATE UP ALL THE ICE CREAM ALREADY did I miss everyone? oh shuck...and I wanted at least one cone. LoL LAZY SUMMER AFTER NOON JUST RIGHT FOR ICE CREAM LINDA DID YOU GET THE PATTERN PRINTED OK? I wasn't sure if it was today or not, am I wrong or did the email say the 8th??? NO I WAS WRONG yes, I did thank you. I HAVE A CALENDAR FROM THE UK I GOT AS A PRESENT THIS YEAR My summer starts next week AND I KEEP FORGETTING THAT IT STARTS THE WEEK WITH MONDAY INSTEAD OF SUNDAY oh ok..thought I might have misunderstood...that is very possible...lol ALL MY FAULT this is the last week of the Spring Semester I FIGURE ANYTIME THE TEMP GOES ABOVE 80 DEGREES IT IS SUMMER that's o.k. I just got home from running errands. THIS LESSON WILL REPEAT TONIGHT AND HOPEFULLY ELIZ WILL JOIN US ok ARE THERE ANY GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat how is everyone? DOES EVERY KNOW JANE IS TEACHING A PALMETTOS THIS YEAR? *** Tatter is now known as ladyshuttlemaker wish I was able to come, would love to meet her. I GIVING A BANQUET SPEECH AT PALMETTOS BUT NOT TEACHING THIS YAER HELLO SHERRY wish I could go WELL SAY HI LINDA SHE'S SITTING RIGHT NEXT TO YOU hi everyone...sorry so late that's neat. hi Jane!!!!! GLAD YOU MADE IT SHERRY hi Sherry. DID YOU HAVE ANY QUESTIONS ON THE ICE CREAM CONE PATTERN? hello Sherry what did yours taste ? saw pictures of her Tatpeople that were at Hector this year...they are really cute! Ooooh, AKA, didn't know you were gonna be there!!! YIPEEEEEEE OH YES JANE I JUST FOUND OUT TODAY!!! EEEEKKKK CAN'T WAIT TO SEEE YOU AGAIN Oh, I've got mischief planned, don't worry!!! sorry, but my ice cream will have to be dark chocolate...I did make one previously mint chocolate chip. YOU ARE SO RIGHT LINDA MY ICE CREAM WILL NEVER BE CHOCOLATE AGAIN, IT WAS BANNED FROM MY DIET THIS WEEK Jane you're so creative...how do you ever come up with all of your great ideas? OH HOW SAD I MUST FIND A NEW FAVORITE anything once is a while is alright...think moderation. I USED TO LIKE BLACK WALNUT A LOT Warped mind, my dear, very warped!!!! I LOVE THE WAY YOU THINK MY DEAR ER THAT WAS MEANT FOR LINDA Jane, I kind of doubt that??? thanks, JANE JANE JANE, WARPED IN NOT THE RIGHT WORD, GENIUS COMES TO MIND THO AK, I agree..."genius". Well, maybe years of teaching 4/5 year olds gave me a simple mind!! ROFL...you're too much!!! *giggle* SIMPLEST IS ALWAYS BAST BEST SHERRY DID I ASK IF YOU HAD ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERN? I saw your tatbeads Jane...and I wrote in your book :) LINDA SHERRY YOU BOTH KNOW THE ALLIGATOR JOIN? Yes, and hardest, AKA!!1 You've no idea how many patterns get chucked out cause they're too complicated!! yes, thank you for asking. Hi Lady Shuttlemaker! I only briefly looked, but I think I can figure it all out. YES THERE IS A POINT WHERE THE TATTER MUST ASK IS THIS WAY THE BEST, THE MOST EFFIFICIENT? IS IT WORTH THE STRUGGLE Amen! The bin's by my chair - very useful!!!! So many things get chucked but sometimes it's as well to go back. The latest edging is a no, no at the moment!! THEN WE ALWAYS GO BACK THE SIMPLE AND DIRECT, LEAST CUTS/CLIMB OUTS JANE DID YOU EVER TAT A LITTLE SQUIB AND THEN FORGET HOW YOU DID IT? i DID THIS LITTLE DOGWOOD FLOWER ONCE AND THE JOINS MADE THE DIMPLES ARE THEY LOOK GREAT BUT HOW i TATTED THAT I CAN'T GUESS JUST HAVE BEEN ON AUTOPILOT Only the octopus - 3D. Oh, sorry, you're teasing!!!! :) I sure have done that ANY GENERAL ANNOUNCEMENTS? ANY QUESTIONS? I'm pregnant!!!! not from me...... WITH THOUGHT? Oh, not me my youngest daughter!!! LOL your are Jane???? YES CONGRATA AGAIN ONTHE NEW ONE is this the first time that you will be a grandmother, Jane? 02Congrats...will this be your first grand? lol.. congratz congratulations I was thinking the ice cream cone would be No #4 but I was worried in case Nathan became a permanent 'only one'!! great for a grandchild's sunsuit That's great., I will be a great grandmother in Dec again., that will be 3 Oh, and 2 of Nick's in Cincinnati 02Will you teach any of your grandchildren to tat Jane? YES sUE? IT IS A LOVELY DAY HERE AND MY NEPHEW IS ABOUT TO RUN IN A TRACK MEET SO I WILL SAY GOOD BYE FOR NOW AN DHOPE TO SEE YOU ALL HERE TONIGHT it's nice here in Virginia as well...the sun is so pretty. Thanks for the lesson AK and Eliabeth! bye and thanks, AK Yes, if they want to. Kirsty can but doesn't. Lucy's never been interested. That's why I'm desperate for a girl in the UK!! 02It's lovely here too...in Boise Happy traveling and thanks to Eliz, wherever she is. MANY THANKS AGAIN TO ELIZ DAVIS FOR SHARING WITH THE CLASS! thanks for the lesson Georgia and have a nice day with your nephew and borther maybe I'll catch tonight's class....take care. hope your grandson wins the track meet. GOODBY FOR NOW AND THANKS FOR STOPPING BY THANKS ALL *** Disconnected Session Close: Mon May 07 14:53:03 2007 Session Start: Mon May 07 19:23:06 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Sandriver *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Hi there *** Tatter is now known as sherong Small class so far Hello Georgia and Sherong It's all Georgia's fault - she said class was the 8th *** Tatter has joined #tatchat hello all sure blame it al lon me lol yes I have a calendar from the UK and it starts with Monday instead of Sunday so I sometimes get the date wrong bummer *** Tatter is now known as Mary_ND How's your mother doing+ ? not + *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as BJ Hi All, Mary_ND has joined mom is better she had a rough week thanks hi bj mary Hello Carmen! *** sherong has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as sherong I saw your email about the hairpin lace I will share it with the class too Hit the wrong key - I;m bck 05oops! be back in a minute does everyone have the lesson tonight? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/edavisavsquare.html I rememer doing a shawl in hairpin lace a long time ago ok remember Somewhere at home I have a small booklet on different hairpin lace patterns Hi Georgia ...an interesting hairpin lace web page with many projects and tutorials 05y hi - is the lesson the ice cream cone ? yes that is it Main thing I had to remember was to start near the open end so I could slide extra stitches off when it got too full 05then, no I didn't 'see' it -:>( the hp page http://silvers79.fotosik.pl/albumy/60311.html teh lesson http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/edavisavsquare.html 05thanks 05I, too, have an old needlecraft book that covers hairpin tatting - my daughter hasit at her house! and another page carmen found http://shakerita.multiply.com/photos/album/15 has the how 2 for hp there is also an all tatted version of hp lace Mary Maynard will be publihsing a book on it soon Lacis has reprinted a bunch of hp antique patterns in a new book and there are now 3 sizes of petite hp looms available for sale too we must do another lesson using it next fall ok let's get started please sign in GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM 05Beverly June Davis Silver City, NM beeloyal1@aol.com Mary Baumler Fargo ND mbaumler@gmail.com Carmen Renee, Peru, carlat476@gmail.com sheron goldin, columbia, SC sherongb@yahoo.com the lesson tonight is shared by eliz davis from arkansas she hs been inspired *** Mimi has joined #tatchat BY AN ANTIQUE PATTERN BY ANNA VALEIRE WELCOME MIMI mimi dillman ntrop@ix.netcom.com Snohomish, WA 05Hi MIMI Good evening ladies THE BASIC MOTIF IS A SQUARE PLEASE LOOK AT THE YELLOW PHOTO PLEASE NOTE THAT IN ROUND 1 THE RINGS ARE NOT JOINED THIS WILL MAKE THE WORK FLOP ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT IT'S OK :) YOU CLIMB FROM THE FIRST ROUND TO THE SECOND ROUND WITH AN ALLIGATOR JOIN DOES EVERYON KNOW THAT JOIN? 05n y no IT IS ALSO CALLED THE BURDA CAPTURE JOIN Sorry BJ it's one of the few not in the beginner's class :) THE LESSON HAS THE LINK IN IT 05we'll get to it, I'm sure! http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/burdacapturedring.jpg BASICALLY BJ YOU TAKE ONE THREAD ABOVE THE WORK AND THE OTHER THREAD BELOW THE WORK LIKE THE JAWS OF AN ALLIGATOR OPENING THEN CLOSE THE JAWS BY SETTING THE NEXT HS/DS EXTRA TIGHT IT IS AN EASY CONCEPT 05I have read about it, though. AND A NICE JOIN TO USE WHEN CAPTURING OUTWARD FACING POINTS WHAT JOIN COULD BE USE INSTEAD OF THE ALLIGATOR JOIN? ANY IDEAS? 05I'm guessing "down Join" PERHAPS BJ IF YOU MEAN PULLING A LOOP F OTHE UPPER THREAD DOWN ON THE OTHER SIDE OF THE BARE THREAD BETWEEN THE TWO RINGS AND THEN POSTING THE SHUTTLE THROUGH IT 05y AS THERE IS NO "PICOT" WE COULD ALSO COVER THAT SMALL BIT OF BARE THREAD WITH A WRAPPED DS AS IN MAKING A SPLIT CHAIN Split chain join? THE CHAINS ON THE PIECE