Session Start: Mon Apr 16 13:56:53 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat hello tatters! Hello !! If you are using the Tat Chat Client webpage, there is a space in the bottom right corner. *** Tatter436 has joined #tatchat hello 436 12the bottom of the box on the right is a white box type your name in that box Hi, Daft old git in the UK signing in!! If you are using the Tat Chat Client webpage, it is in the bottom right corner. you can also change your name by typing /nick yourname *** Tatter935 is now known as Katia hey daft come join the fun rofl hi ya katia 04No empty box in the bottom right.. helo Eliz sorry about that- didnt mean to repeat myself I'm hoping this time my name will change to JaneEb Hello Georgia ! *** Tatter436 is now known as JaneEb *** Tatter242 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter481 has joined #tatchat 12Hi Jane Got it!! ah jane glad you made it *** Tatter242 is now known as DorcasAnn *** Tatter481 is now known as icela Hi everybody hello Jane *** Tatter221 has joined #tatchat Dorcas Mary! Hi Jane and everyone else *** Tatter221 is now known as Zena welcome 221 05hi Jane hello everyone *** Zena is now known as ZenaThank ah Zena thanks so much for the earring pattern Hello 05hi Dorcas and Icela. 05hi Zena ok tatter remember just type /nick yourname hi Linda and Mary hi linda Tatter, did you see AK's instructions? Type / followed immediately by your nickname and hit enter. 05oh yes, I can't forget hi to Georgia! Hello everyone 12it has been a long time since i have been able to join you all hi linda Hi Georgia Would you like to use the pattern tonight? work does get in the way of our tattin ginny 12yes it sure does and sleep 12yes i work 2 jobs so i have to sleep some also 04I read the instrcutions Debbie *** ZenaThank is now known as Zena 04Opps that didn't work?? 12but i took two days off after Hector so i could rest up I got a bit enthusiastic like this type only /nick yourname put a forward slash in front of your name Tatter 13I hear hector got snowed in. how many lucky tatters got to go to Hector?? oh snowed in ! 04Like this/Debbie 12well it snowed today and everyone finally got out 13good thing I didn't go 12i took Nina to teh air port this morning *** Tatter885 has joined #tatchat 12I am hoping Debbie got out in Rochester on time 13she may be stuck there the rest of the day it is lovely to see you all here today *** Tatter885 is now known as ladyshuttlemaker thanks goodness for theinternet *** Solaan has joined #tatchat let it snow let it snow let it snow 12yes she might be but she wanted to go and ist and hope for a flight 12no more snow i have about 8 inches now hi sherry 05I didn't make this year, but am hoping to be able to go next year for the 10th anniversary. Hi Everybody I'll be there for the 10th one too Hello! 12i will be there also i wouldnt want to miss it Well, we've had the hottest April for donkey's years over here so ya, boo sucks!!! *** Tatter944 has joined #tatchat Solaan and Zena are one 05my goodness, 3 more inches of snow since this morning??? Tatter, do it again, but only enter the slash followed by your name--no other text 13Well you all need to come to the Palmetto Tat Day this year. It is always a blast when Jane and Mark are there oh bummer and the freeze took nealry all our blossoms last week 12yes 12it isnt good here at all CG has been correcting me and I've become two people. oh I am going to miss Palmettos :( 13Why g Hello everyone *** Tatter944 is now known as SusanK 05I'm afraid this nor'easter is going to break my young redbud tree?? not teaching this year ooooh Palmetto will be serious this time!!! NO, AKA, you CAN'T miss Palmetto. Not allowed 13I was hoping you were going to be there this year. I am teaching this year. 12i havent been there yet but maybe some day 13Why serious Jane....??? oh how I would love to see that 04Forward slash followed by my name does work either...?? Well, I shall TRY to be serious but I have got SOME mischief planned!! Palmetto seems overall to be a little more serious than the previous years less light hearted banter coming across so far any way but I know it will be a great event I hopt it isn't too serious Is it because interest in tatting is growing 12Where are the tat beads now are they on there way home yet 04No big deal, will leave it as is, might be my computer or?? Thanks for trying. Mary do you know the cost of the Tatting Hands cds?? Ah, well there's a challenge - I'll have to change my mind then!!! sorry, Tatter. We'll all introduce ourselves shortly. and some people get a bit grown-up about it? 13That is because we are getting so big. I think we had close to 100 people if not over a 100 people show up good for you jane! get the laughter rolling *** icela has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) does everyone have the lessonlink to the tina page? I try to be serious but I'm slowly sliding into senility and old age with a VASTE and untameable sense of humour!!! 12LOL no I don't have the linek 12i love your sense of humor 10yes that edging looks Awesome! you go girl! back peddle ! I don't have it either http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/frauberger1913.html 12ye sit sure is intreguing *** Tatter979 has joined #tatchat i wish sense went with my humour but both are out of control!! thanks 04Of course I don't either, my first time here. icela Zena is your earring pattern for today or a later lesson? georgia do i have 5 min before we start? 06the cd is 15.00 We can do it today if you want *** SusanK has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) I just did it myself so it's fresh in my mind *** Tatter128 has joined #tatchat well Jane in rehab they let people play with string and beads so mayber you will be ok thanks Mary am taking some to sell at Spokane *** Tatter128 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter317 has joined #tatchat Sounds good to me - the mental home I escaped from last week let me play with beads and string!!! ok sure let's do it Fine http://www.theseaofdreams.com/tatting/patterns_files/zena-TatBeadedEarring.pdf I fell off fixing my pop-ups that is Zena's pattern for earring hot off the ether waves *** Tatter317 is now known as SusanK *** ginnyw has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter972 has joined #tatchat to change your name type /nick yourname *** Tatter972 is now known as ginnyw i lost the link ok now let's get started which link ginny? please siGN IN the ear ring pattern GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP IL USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM http://www.theseaofdreams.com/tatting/patterns_files/zena-TatBeadedEarring.pdf 10Sherry..Boise, Idaho ladyshuttlemaker@hotmail.com i tried to open it and the page when blank Eliz in Arkansas COULD BE TRAFFIC JAM WAIT A MINUTE AND RETRY ok Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA 05Linda Barnes, Woodbridge, VA lingram2@comcast.net Susan K Fuller, Loveland, Colorado rlskfullers@comcast.net Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa@hotmail.com IS THIS THE SPIDERMAN ELIZ? ZENA HERBERT, SOLAAN44@YAHOO.CO.UK, MORECAMBE, ENGLAND Ginny Weathers Auburn, NY lovetotat @hotmail.com LOVELAND CO IS WHERE PIECEWORK MAGAZINE HAS THIER HEADQUARTERS LOVE THAT MAG APRIL 16, 2007 OUR LESSON TODAY ARE http://www.theseaofdreams.com/tatting/patterns_files/zena-TatBeadedEarring.pdf AND Yes, I applied there once but didn't get the job http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/frauberger1913.html MAYBE YOU SHOULD SUBMIT A TATTING PATTERN SUSAN? OK ZENA IS GOING TO PRESENT THE EAREING FIRST This is the tatknot Eliz HAS EVERYONE GOT THE PATTERN NOW? ONE OD MY ELIZ'S HAD A SON WHO WANT SPIDERMAN ON HIS TATTING SHUTTLE 12yes i got it CAN'T WAIT TO WORK ON THAT ONE! ARE WE ALL READY TO ROLL? I THINK SO! I'm the Eliz with the daughter who wants the dragon. 10I'll just be sitting in today due to stiff hands from working in clay all morning... AH I REMEMBER NOW YOU GOT THE SHUTTLES ALREADY? OH SHERRY SIT BACK AND ENJOY No, they haven't arrived yet. I DID THIS TODAY WELL, THIS EVENING, SO THAT'S WHY THE ENDING/START IT A BIT UNTIDY THE PATTERN WILL BE PRESENTED BY ZENA HERBERT I'LL TALK US THROUGH IT OK WE BEGIN WITH A STARTER PICOT TWO SHUTTLERS, CTM AS USUAL, AND THREAD 37 BEADS ONTO THE THRTEAD BEFORE YOU START TO FILL THE SHUTTLES YES, WE START WITH THE PAPER CLIP IT'S QUITE STRAIGHTFORWARD 12what size thread did you use CH OF 8DS I often use a lanyard hook for this I USED A SILKY THREAD, THAT'S WHY IT UNRAVELLED, ABOUT 40S IT WAS A DIFFERENT ELIZ THAT SHIPPED ALREADY SORRY, YOURS A RE WAITING FOR WHEN YO UARE READY *** Tatter373 has joined #tatchat IT WAS WHAT I HAD IN MY BAG *** Tatter373 is now known as marian THE RING IS MADE WITH SH2 12so a fine thread an decela beads BEFORE YOU BEGIN THAT RING, SLIP 9 BEADS Hallo all to all the tatters ONTO THE THREAD THAT YOU WILL PUT AROUND YOUR HAND TO MAKE THE RING WITH You were going to send me a paypal link. I USED A SIZE9/0 BEAD YOU COULD USE FINER IF YOU WANTED 12ok i have some of them PROVIDED THEY FIT ONTO YOUR THREAD AGAIN, I USED WHAT I HAD WITH ME HELLO MARIAN START THE RING WITH 5DS OK ELIZ WILL DO SLIP 3 BEADS DOWN THE THREAD AROUND YOUR HAND AND USE THE TO MAKE A PICOT It was a long time ago that I knotakt he class MOVE 1 BEAD FROM THE SH2 THREAD TO SIT AT THE BASE OF THE PICOT YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME MARIAN PULL UP A CHAIR AND GET COMFORTABLE SO THAT IT MAKES A FOUR-PETAL FLOWER WITH THE THREE BERADS WE ARE STUDYING AN EARRING PATTERN SORRY BEADS It comes that I was making bobbin lace with my nabuur http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/frauberger1913.html http://www.theseaofdreams.com/tatting/patterns_files/zena-TatBeadedEarring.pdf nice effect, Zena On monday evening. 12yes it does look veyr nice IT LOOKS PRETTY IN DIFFERENT COLOURS MAKE 3DS AND ANOTHER 3-BEAD + 1 BEAD PICOT, LIKE BEFORE ANOTHER 3DS AND ANOTHER 3-BEAD+1 BEAD PICOT 5DS AND CLOSE THIS RING CAREFULLY Have you al seen what a beutiful flower we make on the meeting from the dutch tatting goup? ARE WE ALL OK SO FAR? 12yes i am good so far so good, zena EVERYONE ELSE? OK HERE yes fine 06ok here NEWER TATTERS MIGHT LIKE TO LOOK AT THE LAST THREE PHOTOS ON THIS PAGE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasics.html ALL WE DO HERE IS TO REPEAT THIS THREE TIMES IT SHOWS THE USE OF BEADS ON THE CORE THREAD MARIAN YOU MUST GIVE US THE LINK PLEASE SO THAT'S: CH OF 8DS, SH2 R AS BEFORE, AND SAME AGAIN Go to the yahoo site.I see if I can find the link. WE GET THREE OF THESE BEADED RINGS MADE WITH SH2, SITTING ON THE CHAIN MAKE A FINAL 8DS AND JOIN INTO THE LITTLE PICOT WE STARTED WITH NOW WE WORK THE TOP LOOP 12so it is simular to a SCMR CH OF 5DS SLIDE 1 BEAD ALONG FROM SH2 AND MAKE A 1-BEAD PICOT OK MARIAN good point, ginny! 5DS, JOIN TO LITTLE PICOT AS BEFORE YES, IT'S JUST LIKE A MOCK RING 12i just taught them at Hector so they are easy fo rme to see right now END OFF AND THAT'S IT! I hope it goes so http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/Frivolitekring/photos/view/75dc?b=1 OH THAT IS GOOD SIMPLE TO WORK AND YOU CAN MAKE SEVERAL FOR FRIENDS AND FAMILY 12it looks so easy but very nice THE SINGLE BEAD P AT THE TOP OF THE 5DS,5DS CHAIN MAKES IT EASY TO THREAD AJUMP RING INTO Will you stiffen the earrings? If so what do you use? WHEN YOU WANT TOMOUNT THE FITTING This are mine but with the foto's there are more. *** Tatter912 has joined #tatchat I like the use of the i-bead picot at the top for the jump ring IF I STIFFEN THEM, I USE A PVA STIFFENER, SAME AS ON MY HATS I FOUND THAT WITHOUT THE BEAD AT THE TOP FITTING EARWIRES WAS DIFFICULT WELCOME LATECOMERS PLEASE SIGN IN 12does that make the beads cloudy TO DO NEATLY AND SECURELYT SECURELY MARIAN THAT IS A LOVELY LITTLE FLOWER CAN YOU TELL US HOW IT WAS TATTED? THE PVA? THANKS ZENA THAT WAS A GREAT PRESENTATION Yes its very nice. 12yes the pva WE APPRECIATE YOU SHARIN GYOUR WORK WITH THE CLSS. NO, I ONLY DAB IT ONTO THE DS PART OF THE WORK Thank you, Zena! 10Thank you Zena thanks Zena 12oh ok I DON'T DIP IT OR SPRAY IT 12i will try that YOU'RE ALL VERY WELCOME. I'M PLEASED YOU LIKE IT IT'S MY NEW BABY AND SO MANY COLORS AND SO MANY BEADS WE CAN USE FOR IT 12i will try a pair tonight to give to my daughter DID EVERYON SEE THE FLOWER BY MARIAN? tHEY'RE VERY QUICK TO MAKE 10The link didn't work for me YOU PROBABLY NEED TO BE A YAHOO MEMBER 06yes it is awesome Marian. iamrtst signiong in the link requires that we be members of that yahoogroup I just saved the join page to my favorites! OH YOU ARE mARTH FROM iLLINOIS Yes I can thell you but can now not fing it. PLEASE WELCOME A NEW TATTER TO THE GROUP 10I am a yahoo member...I'll trya again.. *** Tatter838 has joined #tatchat OK MARIAN IF YOU FIND HOW TO MAKE IT PLEASE SEND TO ME AND I WILL SHARE WITH EVERYONE I have in a book and find it for you i send it to your e mail. THANKS MARIAN OK NAMELESS TATTERS TO CHANGE YOU NAME PLEASE TYPE /NICK YOURNAME NOW LET'S LOOK AT THE ANTIQUE EDGING sorry I am late., been pulling weeds ALWAYS WELCOME ANYTIME http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/frauberger1913.html o no not in a book, on a page I pick up downstairs and send it to you. OK MARIAN I WATCH FORIT EVERONE HVE IT PRRINTED? yes thank you 12i have it in another window got it THE NAME TINA FRAUBERGER SHOULD BE FAMILAR TO US i have it also SHE ARE HER HUSBAND TATTING TATTING IN THE EARLY PART OF THE 20TH CENTURY SHE WROTE AT LEAST 3 TATTING PATTERN BOOKS DURING AND AFTER WORLD WAR 1 THEY TAUGHT TATTING TO THOSE BLINDED DURING THE WAR *** Tatter912 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) I find it but it is in dutch *** Tatter838 is now known as mjb 05may I ask what is PVA stiffener??? HELLO MARYJANE NO PROBLEM MARIAN It's like PVA glue but thicker LIKE A GLUE hello everybody Hello Mj 12it is like elmers glue *** Tatter300 has joined #tatchat I brush it on the buckram I make my hats with WE HAVE USED HER PATTERNS IN CLASS BEFORE http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/onion/onion.html *** Tatter300 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatter300) *** Tatter882 has joined #tatchat 05oh thanks Ginny.. and it helkps it to keep in good shape HI, MARY JANE IN THAT LESSON WE LEARNED THE USE OF THE ONION RING JOIN 12oh i remember that class Hi Dorcas., I am late. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/onion/onionhow2.html PVA is a white glue that schools in the UK use. It's washable in cold water. It's excellent for stiffening tatting as you can 'dilute' it with cold water and it squidges in well!! HOWEVER, IN THIS PATTERN SHE ISUSING THE TRADITIONAL I wondered where you were RING SURROUNDED BY A TATTED CHAIN Pulling weeds PLEASE NOTE AT THIS TIME THE SECOND DIAGRAM LETTERED A - W *** Tatter882 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) WAS OVERWRITTEN AS WHAT I THOUGHT WAS RING T mj i would exchange your weed for my snow anytime if your interested ;) TURNED OUT TO BEINT HE DIRECTION ACTUALLY RING B 12yes i would love weeds instead of snow also ON THE SIDE OF THE EDING THIS MOTIF FACES RIGHT SO YOU FLOP IT OVER TO FACE LEFT ON THE OTHER SIDE Katia, Okay OK HERE'S THE REPEAT RING A 10 - 5 - 10 THOSE TWO PICOTS BECOME JOINS ON THE NEXT REPEAT THEN RING B IS THROWN OFF THE OPPOSITE DIRECTION SAME COUNT TEH SECOND B IS CHAIN NOTE THAT IS HAS A CURVE IN IT THE CHAIN HAS A DS COUNT OF 15 BUT THE MATCHIN CHAIN ON THE RETURN PASS HAS ONLY 12 THAT BUILDS IN A CURVE 12well i ahve to go the powere is blinkingon and off now BYE GINNY 12bye everyone TKAE CARE STAY WARM bye ginny *** ginnyw has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) THE INNER RING C 16 - 16 THEN YOU WILL BEGIN THE CHAIN AROUND RING C THIS IS A POINT THAT NEWERE TATTERS MAY WANT TO CONSIDER YOU DO NOT HAVE TO RW AFTER RING C YOU CAN SIMPLY ROTATE THE WORK SO THAT THE BOTTOM OF THE CLOSED RING C (6 O-CLOCK POSITION) MOVES TO THE 9 O'CLOCK POSITION AND BEGIN TATTING Aktatter i have send it to you. THANKS MARIAN I WATCH FOR IT Will you let me now if you have it. CHAIN 5 THEN USE THE SECOND SHUTTLE TO THROW OFF THE SMALL RING E YES I WILL ARE THERE ANY NEEDLE TATTERS IN THE ROOM? 05yes *** Katia has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) OK IT TAKES A LITTLE EXTRA EFFORT TO THROW OFF THE RING FROM THE NEEDLE *** Tatter377 has joined #tatchat PLEASE SEE THE LINK SHOWN no OK MARY JANE IF YOU DON'T WANT TO LOOK AT THE PAGE IT IS OK BUT IT HAS GOOD PHOTOS 05I have already, but thank you. 05yes, it's very helpful. MJB ? :) wich link Georgia i was drop off the chat Need to leave - get ready for work bye All! *** Tatter377 is now known as Katia *** SusanK has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) NOTE THAT THE CHAIN IS ONLY 2DS BEFORE AND AFTER THE LARGER RING K IT IS THE THROW OFF RINGS LINK ON THE LESSON PAGE WB KATIA ok thanks BYE SUSAN TAKE CARE I meant I was not a needle tatter 05http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/float/throw2.html RING Q WILL BE JOINING TO RING B YEP MJB i KNOW JUST SHAKING YOUR CAGE A LITTLE :) I thought MJB was being naughty THEN COMPLETE THE 12 DS CHAIN YES I WAS READY TO SEND HER TO THE CORNER ZENA LOL I am naughty., ask Dorcas stand on the naughty stool