Session Start: Mon Apr 09 14:07:58 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat ah ha! Hi Georgia Hi Georgia hello all glad to see everyone Hello Georgia hope you all had a good holiday weekend are you okay Georgia? did anyone get snow? Yes all day Santa Claus got snow yes I am fine Mary Jane buthave some more tests to do this week and in May I couldn'tr believe the snow and baseball games having to be cancelled back in east mother nature always gets the last word in tatter to change your name type /nick yourname well we did had a grenn christmast and now a white easter so what is next We had a cold weekend, but nice. ok shall we get started? Yes, would you believe we got snow down here in Texas?! cold summer would be ok with me Katie oh my TX too! PLEASE SIGN IN 10Me too....I don't do so well in the heat GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM About 15 min of flurries, but still... Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa@hotmail.com Mary Jane Brittingham Santa Claus In usa APRIL 9 2007 OUR LESSON FOR TODAY http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/spencebfly.html Susan K Fuller, Loveland, Colorado, rlskfuller@comcast.net OR ON THIS PAGE 10Sherry Boise ID Ladyshuttlemaker.etsy.com http://myweb.cableone.net/ajpence/tattingpattern.htm Kate Huttar, Dallas, TX katelingo @ huttar.net WE ARE HAPPY TO HAVE SHERRY PENCE WITH US TODAY TO PRESENT HER PATTERN DOES EVERYON EHAVE THE BUTTERFLY PRINTED OKK NOW? i do I don't IN THE PHOTO OF THE PURPLE BUTTERFLY PLEASE NOTE THERE WAS SOME FADING AT THE CENTER BOTTOM BUT THERE IS A CHAIN SEGMENT THERE PLEASE REFER TO THE DIAGRAM OK WELL WE WILL WAIT A MOMENT FOR YOU TO PRINT THEN mARY jAN IS THERE A MEMBER OF THE RING OF TATTERS HERE TODAY? 10A bigger pic can be seen at http://myweb.cableone.net/ajpence/tattingpattern.htm GREAT THANKS SHERRY *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) ROFT HAS STARTED THE RING OF CHATTERS GROUP IF INTERESTED IN JOINING AND IF YOU ARE ALREADY AN ROFT MEMBER JUST GO TO EMAIL mICHELLE AT ringofchatters-owner@yahoogroups.com READY MJB? *** mjb has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as mjb OK THEN PLEASE NOTE THAT ON THE CLASS PAGE i HAVE EDITED SHERRY'S INSTRUCTIONS SLIGHTLY TO REFLECT THE FORMAT WE USE MOST OFTEN IN CLASS ALSO NOTE IN THE LIST OF ABBREVIATIONS 10Thanks...I'm a newbie THAT SHERRY USES SR TO INDICATE A SMALL RING AND NOT A SPLIT RING OH SURE SHERRY WE ARE JUST HAPPY TO SHARE YOUR WORK SO SHERRY WOULD YOU LIKE TO POINT OUT THE STARTING SPOT ON THE DIAGRAM 10Sure...It would be the first of the inner connected rings 10Hope that makes sense OK THAT PAIR IN THE WING THAT FACES AWAY FROM THE BODY SOWE COMPLETE THE DOUBLE RINGS AND RW AND WE CHAIN AROUND THESE RINGS JOINING FIRST AFTER 4 DS SO THAT MEANS ONCE WE HAVE RW'D THEN WE ARE JOINING TO WHAT IS THE RING ON THE LEFT? 10yup WHEN THAT IS COMPLETED THEN ARE WE HEADING DOWN TOTHEBOTTOM TIP OF THE WING OR UP TO THE UPPER SECTION OF THE WING? 10Yes that is correct! LARIGHT THEN THAT 10 - 2 CHAIN MAKES A PICOT TO WHICH WE ATTACH THE BODY LATER ON GOT IT! SO WE CONTINUE THE RING AND CHAIN ALTERNATING 10:) BACK AROUND TO THE SPOT WE STARTED AND THEN GASP OH ONT HORRORS! GADZOOKS WE CUT AND TIE!!! WELL WE DON'T NORMALLY DO CUT AND TIE BUT TATTERS IS IT POSSIBLE TO AVOID TEH C&t IN THIS BUTTERFLY?? 10What happened? sHERRY HAS US TO CUT OFF AND THEN ATTACH TO THE UPPER LEFT PART OF THE WING AND START AGAIN 10no AH SHERRY IT IS ONE OF THE THINGS WE TRY TO AVOID WHILE TATTING UNLESS AS IN THIS CASE I CAN SEE NO WAY AROUND IT 10I am lost? There is no cut and tie until the end WELL WE GOT ALLTHE WAY AROUND THE INITIAL PART AND SECURED TO THE BOTTOM OF THE 2 DOUBLE RINGS WHERE WE STARTED SO THAT IS THE SPOT WHERE IT CUT AND TIES THEN WE ATTACHED THE THREAD AGAIN AT THE UPPER LEFT PART OF THE WING TO DO THAT LSTA CHAIN SEGMENT WITH ONE TINY RING THROWN OFF ARE WE ALL TOGETHER NOW? 10I don't cut and tie...I flip the work...It is continous until the end OK THEN ANY QUESTIONS ON THE DIRECTION O FWORK IN THE BUTTERFLY'S WING? OK THE BODY THEN IS A SERIES OF SPLIT RINGS ANY ONE NEW TO SPLIT RINGS? no THE BODY IS ATTACHED TO THE WING AT THE SECOND AND NEXT TO LAST SPLIT RINGS 10o.k...I think I might know where we got off track. I apologize if the directions are confusing ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHERRY? NO PROBLEMS SHERRY im good OK GOOD don't think so SHERRY TO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIAL TIPS TO SHARING ON WORKING THIS PATTERN? 10It is a very simple pattern apart from adding the split ring body. 10The chain and sm ring on the top are an add on IT WOULD BE GREAT FOR APPLIQUE I THINK AND IF YOU DID A SECOND WING YOU COULD MAKE IT 3-D TOO I love the half butterflies/profiles. Nice pattern, Thanks, Sherry. 10Just keep in mind that the body is mean to be curved a little so pay attention to the ds's OK WILL DO DID EVERYONE GET A LOOK AT SHERRY'S SHUTTLES LAST WEEK? really nice work Sherry TYPE THAT URL SHERRY 10Georgia...that Ch 10 p 2 was for the upper wing...not the lower wing. I THINK IT IS ON THE BOTTOM OF THE LESSON PAGE TOO 10That might be where the confusion started OK WILL NOTE THAT 10http://myweb.cableone.net/ajpence/tattingpattern.htm 10That url?? THE ONE FOR THE SHUTTLES 10Oopps...It's LadyShuttlemaker.Etsy.Com OH THANKS AND THANKS FOR SHARING YOUR WORK WITH THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS 10My pleasure! ARE THERE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS TODAY? not today IF NOT I AM GOING TO GO FIND A BLENDING FILAMENT TO PUT WITH THIS MONARCG ORNGE THREAD I HAVE AND GIVE THIS A TRY! THIS LESSON WILL REPEAT TONIGHT AT 8:30PM ET (NEW YORK TIME) LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS?? OK THEN MANY THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TODAY Thanks LadyShuttleMaker and Georgia 10you bet HAPPY EASTER HAPPY SPRING HAPPY TATTING TO ALL thank you! Session Close: Mon Apr 09 14:40:10 2007 Session Start: Mon Apr 09 19:32:07 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat hello all 10Hi Georgia, did you get my latest email?? Allo AK Hello Georgia not yet Sherry I will go look hey Carmen hi y Paule welcome Terry *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as sherong 10Please use this link, it has been updated since last class..:) 10http://myweb.cableone.net/ajpence/tattingpattern.htm Hi Georgia boy is this thing slow. I think I'll leave and come back and see what's happening *** terry has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Terry HI all I think it was because of the printer. All's well now Hi Sheron That's a cute butterfly 10thank you So what's everyone up to? 10I just had to spray my stinky dog with some perfume... I had to bo back and reset the printer for landscape. That worked Sherry I can't get to your butterfly... 10What seems to be the problem? Cannot find the page 10Did you copy and paste the link? no. Typed it make sure you allow pop ups and double click on the URL it will open in a new window i'm bakc 10Any luck yet Alpha? don't you just hate it when the computer decides to run an update without asking you first! arghhh *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) recheck your settings Carmen thank sfor checking in with Angie and I have not heard from Claudia for weeks *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as BJ Sherry had a few corrections so be sure to check the revised pattern at her site. I'll revise the page on the class website later let's get started! Yes! got a nice blue background with a tiny white square with x PLEASE SIGN IN GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM 10Sherry Boise ID ladyshuttlemaker@hotmail.com 05Beverly Davis Silver City New Mexico, USA beeloyal1@aol.com Terry McGuffin me@terrythetatter, Modesto, CA Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime@vl.videotron.ca sheron goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, columbia, sc 10Alpha...you must have some firewalls set up...I will email you the image if you give me your email addy GLAD TO SEE YOU AL HERE TONIGHT I have to leave in about 15 min. so I'll be disappearing Carmen Renee, Peru, carlat476@gmail.com APRIL 9, 2007 PM http://myweb.cableone.net/ajpence/tattingpattern.htm Sherry it is right up there with my sign in 06Hi Terry, bye Terry! :>) THE LESSON TONIGHT IS A BUTTERFLY PATTERN SHARED WITH THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS BY SHERRY PENCE SHERRY PREPARED A SECOND MODEL TODAY IN DIFFERENT COLORS WHICH REALLY SHOWS THE CONSTRUCTION WELL SHERRY WOULD YOU LIKE TO INDICATE WHERE THE PATTERN STARTS? 10At the Big red "S" on the diagram 10Alpha, check your inbox :) Will do Sherry: Caps please 10BETTER??? Red S fades into the two center rings of the wing teacher uses caps YEP LOTS ! MAKES IT EASIER TO SPOT THE LESSON MATERIAL LATER WHEN READING THE LOGS I SEE THE RED S NOW 10YES IT DOES, BUT THAT IS WHERE WE START SO WE BEGIN WITH THE TWO RINGS IN YELLOW WHICH FACE AWAY FROM TEH BODY OF THE BUTTERFLY *** Tatter has joined #tatchat THEN WE RW AND BEGIN THE CHAIN WELCOME TATTER *** Sandriver has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 06Where do we find the butterfly? >: WHICH JOINS http://myweb.cableone.net/ajpence/tattingpattern.htm 06k TO THE RING ON THE RIGHT *** Tatter is now known as Patti PATTI! WELCOME TO CLASS 10HI PATTI, I JUST ADDED YOU ON MYSPACE TODAY :) Hi! Sorry I'm a little late. IS THIS PATTI FROM OH OR FROM CA WE HAD 2 PATTI 'S JOIN THE CLASS TODAY! YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME ANYTIME WE ARE DISCUSSING THE BUTTERFLY PATTERN BY SHERRY PENCE THERE IS A RED S MARKED ON THE DIAGRAM TO SHOW THE START *** Patti is now known as GardeniaPatti WE ARE BEGINNING WITHT THE 2 RINGS IN YELLOW WHICH FACE AWAY FROM THE BODY OF THE BUTTERFLY HAVE YO UFOUND THE SPOT YET? How's this? I'm Patti from Ohio. GLAD TOHAVE YOU WITH US PATTI, SAY I THINK YOU GOT SNOW THIS WEEKEND? 10YEP...YOU'RE THE ONE Thank you Sherry! The pattern is printing now! ANYONE ELSE GET SNOW THIS HOLIDAY WEKEND? 10YAY!! 10GOT SNOW TODAY 10IN IDAHO BUMMER MESSING UP MY DAFFODILS OK BACK TO THE PATTERN TAT THE TWO JOINED RINGS RW AND BEGIN THE CHAIN JOINING TO THE RIGHT SIDE RING AND CONTINUING OVER TO JOIN BETWEEN THE TWO RINGS AND CONTINUING ON BACK TOTHE BASE OF THE TWO RINGS OK SO FAR SHERRY? 10ALL'S WELL!!! *** GardeniaPatti has quit IRC (Ping timeout) AFTER THAT WE START TO CHAIN UP TOWARD THE UPPER PART OF THE WING *** Tatter has joined #tatchat THE LESSON I POSTED LEFT OUT A rw ON THE LINE 8 BEWARE OR SEE SHERRY'WEBSITE FOR THE CORECTED PATTERN ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? 10PLEASE DISREGARD THE OLD PATTERN COMPLETELY...I FLUBBED IT UP *** Terry has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter871 has joined #tatchat 10THE NEW ONE IS GOOD TO GO OK WE'' REPOST THE CORRECTED COPY Did you send me the "new" pattern Sherry? SO THE UPPER WING IS A RING AND CHAIN ALTERNATING PATTERN 10YES ALPHA *** Tatter871 is now known as Sandriver NOTE THE JOINED PAIR OF RINGS ON THE FAR LEFT EACH JOINS TO A DIFFERENT SEGMENT OF THE CHAIN AND THIS WORK CONTINUES ON TO TO ANCHORED AT THE BOTTOM OF THE 2 ORIGINAL RINGS IN YELLOW SO FAR OK SHERRY? 10DOING GREAT GEORGIA! so leave space for several joins when starting the chain THAT IS A GOOD POINT SHERON 10THAT'S A GREAT IDEA the first chain? AND NOW COMES AN UNUSUAL OCCURENCE IN THE CLASS RIGHT PAULE 10I JUST USUALLY SQUEEZE THE JOINS IN THE DIRECTIONS CALL FOR A CUT AND TIE HORROS OH NO! GOODNESS SAKES BUT SO IT IS AND I CAN SEE NO ALTERNATIVE FOR IT SO REATTCH THE SHUTTLE ON THE UPPER WING ON THE LEFT WHERE THE ARROWS POINT 10:( AND TAT THIS EXTRA FLORISH OF A CHAIN WITH ONE TINY RING THROW OFF *** Tatter418 has joined #tatchat 10YOU CAN MAKE THIS ADD-ON IN A DIFFERENT COLOR TO MAKE UP FOR THE CUT AND JOIN :) WELCOME 418 INTRIGUING THOUGHT SHERRY! TO CHANGE YOUR NAME TYPE /NICK YOURNAME THEN THE BODY OF THE BUTTERFLY IS COMPOSED OF A SERIES OF SPLIT RINGS WHICH ARE JOINED TO THE WING AT THE SECOND AND NEXT TO LAST RINGS *** Tatter418 is now known as GardeniaPatti NOTE THAT THE CURVED SHAPE OF THE BODY *** Tatter is now known as JUDY COMES FROMA CHANGE IN DS COUNT IN THE SPLIT RINGS Stop and do a split chain? WELCOME JUDY WHERE SHERON? 10NO SPLIT CHAIN DON'T FORGET THE LONG PICOTS FOR THE LEGS do the wing to the picot left end of top chain, join back to first picot chain is joined to and work back as a split chain THAT WOULD BE A LONG SPLIT CHAIN my first time to chat, might this be a butterfly ? AND YOU NEED TO WEIGH THE EFFORT AGAINST THE EFFECTIVE wwith several joins to picots OH WELCOME JUDY GLAD TO HAVE YOU HERE Ok. I'm back. :) or do as several smaller split chains IS THIS JUDY HOAD FROM ca? 3 smaller split chains OR HOAG? depends on how anti cut and tie you are Lucky me! I'm going to Hector to learn split chains! LUCKY PAULE YOU WILL HAVE A GREAT TIME AT HECTOR Yes it is !!! Glad to finally join you guys ! WELL JUDY THAT IS JUST GREAT Allo Judy WE HAVE JUSTBEEN DISCUSSIN SHERRY'S BUTTERFLY http://myweb.cableone.net/ajpence/tattingpattern.htm SHERRY DO YOU HAVE ANY SPECIAL TIPS FOR US? split chains need practice. I suggest trying on a ring first to get the motion without worying about the thread flopping 10I GUESS THE ONLY TIP I HAVE IS TO REALLY PAY ATTENTION TO THE RW'S IS THERE A DIRECTIONAL CHAIN TATTER IN THE ROOM? I think I am... 10?? WHAT IS DIRECTIONAL CHAIN TATTING? SO PAULE YOU DO NOT RW AFTER RING/CHAIN? 10EXCUSE MY IGNORANCE SHERRY THERE ARE TATTERS WHO DO NOT rw BETWEEN RING AND CHAIN Usually not..but sometime I have to INSTEAD THEY SIMPLY "WRAP" THE DS ON TO THE CHAIN IN THE MANNER OF A SPLIT RING BOTTOM HALF I DO BOTH PAULE DEPENDING ON THE SITUATION IT IS A TIME SAVER IN MANY INSTANCES ON THE PALMETTOS TATTING GUILD NEW TATTING HAND VIDEO 10SOMEONE IS GOING TO HAVE TO SHOW ME THAT TECHNIQUE IN SPOKANE THERE IS A TATTER WHO DOES NOT rw BUT WRAPS THE LEFT HAND FOR BOTH RING AND CHAIN AT THE SAME TIME THE MOST UNIQUE THING THAT i HAVE SEEN SURE SHERRY JUST REMIND ME 10:) OK ANY QUESTIONS FOR SHERRY? Is that Ruth AK? i CAN'T REMEMBER WHICH TATTER IS WAS BUT i WILL LOOK AT THE CREDITS AND FIND OUT MANY THANKS TO SHERRY FOR SHARING HER WORK WITH US TONIGHT SHERRY WHAT IS THAT LINK TO YOUR WEBSITE WHERE YOU HAVE TEH CERAMIC SHUTTLE PHOTOS? 10WWW.LADYSHUTTLEMAKER.ETSY.COM 06yes thank you, it is a charming butterfly! THOSE ARE REALLY SUPER Yes, thank you. This butterfly is cute! ARE THERE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS TONIGHT? 10THANK YOU ALL FOR THE HONOR OF SHARING! ANY BEGINNERS IN THE ROOM? Me! I have a question. YES PATTI? 06I am a 'forever young' forever beginner" lol LOL THAT GIVE TATTING EVER FRESH DOESN' TIT BJ? 10ME TOO BJ :) 06y *** JUDY has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) OK pATTI? I'm needle tatting. I've been adding a knot when I close a ring or chain. Do you more experienced tatters do that? YOU TIE OFF EACH RING AND CHAIN? MOst of them. THAT IS HOW I DO IT TOO ALL RINGS THO IT ISN'T REALLY NECESSARY I've been working with size 10 and 3 and it just seems like it gets the chains tighter. Why do you do it then? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat TO PREVENT GAPSOSIS FROM ENTERING A RING OR STRETCHING OUT A CHAIN PAULE WB TATTER PATTI HAVE YOU JOINED ROGER'S NEEDLE TATTING GROUP? *** Tatter is now known as Judy I sent in my info, but I haven't heard back yet. I think it's a problem on my end. I've beenn reading all the dicussions though. http://groups.msn.com/NeedleTattingTwo/basicshowtotat.msnw THERE ARE GREAT TUTORIALS POSTED FOR NEEDLE TATTING AND SEE TAMMY'S WEBSITE ALSO http://www.frontiernet.net/~TammyRodgers/ THanks! OK THEN ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT? TEH BEGINNERS CLASS MEETS ON wED. WITH MIMI ANITA AND KATIE 10GEORGIA, I WANTED TO SHARE THE MYSPACE TATTING GROUP PLEASE DO 10http://groups.myspace.com/tatting 10I HOPE YOU DON'T MIND...BUT I'VE ADVERTISED THIS CLASS THERE :) IS THERE EYE CANDY POSTED? YES THAT IS FINE 10A LITTLE *** Mimi has joined #tatchat MIMI! Hello, sorry so late 06Hi Mimi! :>) :>) Hi BJ good for you for graduating to this class. And sticking with it! 06I still 'haunt' beginners - I'll neveer give up! It's there for reference too, not just instruction. 06there is always something to learn! Next set of classes is starting next week Wed with meet-and-greet this week. 10SOUNDS LIKE FUN I'm not sure the beginners think so... the lessons are a lot to absorb in just 4 weeks. 06It is very user-friendly AND fun! yes Wednesdays usually work better for me. I usually have dance class on Monday. 06What kind of dance? Scottish country dance and Welsh country dance. 10PATTIE, DO YOU MAKE RENASSAINCE CLOTHING? SO MIMI ALL IS GOING WELL WITH THE BEGINNERS 06ooh now neat! ok, I'm a line dance teacher !! Also 06how neat Yep. and some other time periods too. 10I THOUGHT I READ THAT ON YOUR PAGE THE ONLY DANCE I DO IS THE PILATES SEATED IN A CHAIR DANCE 10VERY COOL LOL 10I'D LIKE TO SEE THAT) OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? Think I'll say nite now. 10NITE THANKS TO AL LFOR STOPPING BY TONIGHT 06no questions, just appreciation for your time Very nice butterfly Sherry thank you for sending the picture