Session Start: Mon Mar 12 14:02:17 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat 12Oh I am glad I made it here in time Hello Georgia 12Hi Georgia hello, AK hello all! Hello everyone! Glad you made it in MJ DN hello there 531 Hello Georgia Hi Georgia hey Katia got the cat fed *** Tatter531 is now known as Susan sweet dh is waiting until after class hello Susan how nice of him ... you better prepare him something he loves ;) I'm going to go check if anyone needs help getting to class brb I was gone last week. *** Susan is now known as SusanK I was sick last week so Dorcas and I didn't to cone to class last week 12I couldn't come last week either Bet they missed us 12lol ;-) I wonder if they were able to have it without us probably not *** katelingo has joined #tatchat I missed class also, but last Mon was the last day I have to go to my Comm college class - YEA! we had class last week maybe they bravely carried on without us? 12lol congratulations, SusanK Hi all! well ya ... sorry we did 12Hi Kate Hello, Kate Somehow we managed. :) Hello Kate congrats SusanK it is good to be finished isn'tit? well you were all missed :) thank you ok open chat continues 3 more minutes meanwhile Thanks, I do still have 1 assign. and the final project to finsh by the 23rd - then I'll be completely done til fall. it is good to be missed Sharon Briggs has a newsletter and I just saw the latest issue sharon briggs shamrock bokmark http://www.gagechek.com/slb/news/ go look and see the chamrock book mark on the lower left what are you taking, SusanK? and you can drool over the gorgeous hyacinth also Right now, the the 3rd ring on the Pricilla Shamrock. Whoops, I thought you said making? I had never heard of a college class like that 12lol I'm taking Teaching,Learning, & Technology to be able to teach online classes. Wow! wish they offered a Ph T in tatting :) ok let's sign in please GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA using powerpoint video presentations and white boards and chat boards - hope to use these to teach tatting Dorcas Newkirk, Evanville, IN, USA THAT IS A TERRIFIC MISSION sk MJB Santa Claus Ind that's beyond me; I'm glad I'm retired Susan K Fuller, Loveland, CO, USA Kate Huttar, Katelingo @ huttar.net, Dallas, Texas, USA Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa @hotmail.com WELCOME ONE AND ALL MARCH 12, 2007 12Susanne aka Dantatter@gmail.com Aarhus in Denmark THIS WEEK WE HAVE MADE A LIST OF SHAMROCK PATTERNS Georgia, did you see my e-mail about next weeks class? HMMM NO NOT YET sk, i AM STILL 90-ISH BEHIND IN EMAIL forgot my email addy, rlskfuller@comcast.net MAYBE YOU COULD RESEND AND MOVE IT TO THE TOP OF MY LIST THAT WAY? THANKS OK I JUST GOT A CALL FROM RUTH PERRY SHE SAYS THAT THE TATTING CALENDAR JUST POSTED HER CELTIC SHAMROCK AND THAT THE WHOLE MONTH OF MARCH HAS SHAMROCK PATTERNS IN IT TAKE A LOOK A T THE CELTIC ONE http://tat-calendar.blogspot.com Yes, I saw it this morning. *** Tatter has joined #tatchat they are very good *** Tatter is now known as Zena EXCUSE ME UPS hello Zena 12Hi Zena I haven't seen today's calendar yet Hi Zena! hi Zena Hello everyone. I didn't realise you have daylight saving and it had come already. Sorry to be late Yes, I teh calendar every morning, great shamrocks Loved that anniversary story, Zena Hello, Zena Oh, Thank you Kate. He was one in a million. I miss him bitterly. WELCOME ZENA 12Yes it is early for daylight savings in the US this year :( I've only been married 4 1/2 years but I feel that way about my hubby. What can you do? God gives everything. 12Yes sounds like fun dancing in the street, lol True. He does all things well. Even the hard things. gOD ALSO GAVE US TATTING ,ZENA TO HELP PASS THE TIME, SAY OUR PRAYERS AND HEAL :) It was wonderful. Nobody does it in England, so a couple waltzing in the main square on a Saturday morning was too much! :) DID ANYONE SPOT ANOTHER SHAMROCK ON THE CALENDAR YET> MARCH 11 that's a great mental picture :) I have printed out the shamrocks each day 12And a good memory too Thank you, Susanne *** SusanK has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat March 1, 2, 4, 5 WELCOME TATTER TO CHANGE YOUR NAME TYPE /NICK YOURNAME THANKS kATE 12:-) Zena OK LET;S TAKE A LOOK AT OUR LIST Tried to go to Sharon B's and fell off March 6, 9, and 10, have clovers in them *** Tatter is now known as SusanK Probably a couple of others, too www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/shamrock.html EVERYONE KONWS THE PRISCILLA SHAMROCK NOW I WAS ASKED THIS WEEK WHY A SPACE WAS LEFT BETWEEN THE RINGS I just closed the 3rd ring of it! THAT IS TO ALL FOR THE OTHER 2 JOINS, SO 3 JOINS IN ONE SPOT AND THAT MAKES THE FLUFFY CHAINS LAY FLATTER WAY TO GO sk! They would bunch up without the space, right? IT IS A CLASSIC RING SURROUNDED BY CHAINS PATTERN RIGHT ZENA AND MAKE A LUMP AT THE JOIN THESE OTHER SHAMROCKS ARE ALSO THE BASIC RING SURROUND BE JOINS SURROUNDED BY JOINS http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/vangogh/235/just.html http://www.freepatterns.com/list.html?cat_id=330 by Marie Reeves (you need to sign in with your email address to access the pdf) BUT THE SHAMROCK ON THE MARCH 11 DATE OF THE CALENDAR http://tat-calendar.blogspot.com LOOKS SO DIFFERENT DOESN'T IT? BUT WHAT DO YOU SEE CONSTRUCTION WISE? RING SURROUNDED BY CHAINS THE TWIST COMES IN THE ILLUSION CREATED BY THE CENTER DO YOU SEE THE CROSS? NO? NO ONE SEES A CROSSIN IT? The cente cross with the beaded tail? WELL i SURE DID AND I ADMIRE MARILEE FORHER DESIGN WHICH INCORPORATED A RELIGIOUS SYMBOL INTO THE WORK YES THAT IS IT MARCH 11 It makes it lead into Easter I hadn't noticed that. Interesting. AND IT REALLY BRINGS THE LEGEND OF THE SHAMROCK AND sT PAT TO LIFE I like it better now. :) THIS IS A TEST I didn't see that, thanks HOW DID MARILEE GET THE BIG BEAD IN THE CENTER? 12Amazing Yes, I see the cross-wonderful creativity Long picot, threaded bead? I haven't read the intsructions yet YEP JUST LET THE THREAD COME THRU THE BEAD AND PUT SHUTTLE THRU THE LOOP EXCELLENT PATTERN i WISH i KNEW MARILEE BUT WE HAVE NOT MET DOES ANYONE KNOW HER? Maybe Rhoda Ault's technique page 97? Sorry to say, no COULD BE SK 12Oh yes that is very clever OK NOW LET'S LOOK AT THESE PATTERNS http://www.terrythetatter.com/shamrock.html I can't get to that link I NEED THE LINK TO SONJA'S SHAMNROCK I can't access that - says error http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/sonjashamrock.html terry's? No joy with terry's hmm Sonja's is cute, perfect for a bookmark What a neat bay thing! baby, sorry well it is a 3-d shamrock using dimpled rings it is called the peek-a-boo shamrock ornament and sonja's also uses the dimpled ring everyone familiar with how to tat the dimpled ring? yes thank you yes http://www.picotnet.com/Patterns/christinasham.htm try this link for terry http://www.terrythetatter.com/shamrock.html 12Yes but not an expert though christina's keychain pattern is also a dimpled ring but there is no photo for it Yes, have used it for tiny holly so how else can we tat up a dip in the shamrock leaves? look at char and kertsi http://www.kersti.com/tatting/pat_026.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/charshamrock.html I can get terry on the new link, thanks welcome *** Susanne has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) great *** Tatter has joined #tatchat wb *** Tatter is now known as Susanne here char and kersti create thedimpled effect with twisted picots! wb susanne Sorry, I tried the link and was kicked out Thanks excellent construction tool and yet look at how the same long picot creates even another look in the shamrock wreath by marth ess A shuttle join to a picot below the line of work would dip too wouldn't it? all of them examples use basic tatting skills yes it would sk CHARS DOES THAT IF YOU COMPARE THE CHAINS ON THE SHAMROCKS BY CHAR AND KERSTI CAN YOU SEE THE DIFFERENCE IN THE CURVES? KERSTI HAS A MORE PRONOUNCED CURVE THIS IS A TEST I've used that technique and beaded the picot for spider's legs, the long twisted picot, I mean HOW DO WE GET THAT EFFECT? THE LONG TWISTED PICOT IS VERY EFFECTIVE IN PINEAPPLE TATTING ALSO ANY SUGGESTIONS ON CURVING GHE CHAIN?? TO ENHANCE THE CURVE OF A CHAIN PUSH THE DS BACK TOWARD THE STARTING POINT OF THE CHAIN AND CONVERSELY IF YOU GET TOO MUCH CURVE IN THE CHAIN RUN THE BACK OF YOUR THUMB NAIL ACROSS THE TOPS OF THE DS THAT WILL STRAIGHTEN OUT THE CHAIN OK ANY QUESTIONS ON ANY TECHNIQUES NEEDED FOR THESE SHAMROCK PATTERNS? does the length of the picot make a difference too? No thank you, all in order here YES IT MAKES A CRUCIAL DIFFERENCE SK No thank you, all in order here LONGER LESS CURVE SHORTED MORE CURVE I thought so, thatnks Georgia ANY QUESTIONS ON THE PATTERNS? sorry to repeat mysel, keyboard funny im good I THINK MY KEYBOARD IS FUNNY ALL THE TIME lol BUT USUALLY IT IS JUST OP ERROR LOL Ho-Ho! ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? My keyboard too, makes lots of typos THIS DISCUSSION REPEATS TONIGHT AT 8:30pm et :) OK THEN MANY THANKS TO AL OF YOU FOR STOPPING BY Georgia and all, I'm working on my snowflake to discuss joins next Mon 3/19 Thank you, Georgia. Great list and class. HOPE TO SEE YOU AL LAGAIN SOON thanks for the class Georgia Thank you for having me. Bye, everyone. Bye, Susanne Oh, are the flowers out yet? GREAT ZENA i WILL LOOK FORWARD TO THAT thank you THANKS FOR SHARING EVERYONE It has a COOR with false picot also if anyone has any tip or hints good class GOOD BYE FOR NOW AND HAPPY TATTING Session Close: Mon Mar 12 14:45:56 2007 Session Start: Mon Mar 12 19:43:01 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat 06sorry. I'm in!!!! 06hi Georgia. hello Georgia whew! 06YEAH!!! welcome Welcome gosh where is my seatbelt lol I've been on and off so many times in the last hour my head is swimming sorry to be so late but glad to see you all here *** LindaB is now known as Linda don't need the seatbelt, neeed a picklock or skeleton key brb 06lol *** Tatter702 has joined #tatchat *** sherong is now known as sheron cyber key lol Joyce is this Joyce Schaub? no schermerhorn tatter to change your name type /nick yourname even better Joyce glad to see you here 06she tried and can't get it to work..... thank you ok let's get started PLEASE SIGN IN GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM Mimi Dillman, Snohomish, WA USA, ntrop@ix.netcom.com Margaret Wagner Grants Pass Oregon 06Linda Barnes, Woodbridge, VA lingram2@comcast.net MARCH 12, 2007 PM CLASS joycemscherm@yahoo.com Joyce Schermerhorn, Muncie, IN USA THE LESSON FOR TODAY IS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/shamrocklist.html sheron goldin, columbia, sc sherongb@yahoo.com Linda Nyhus - fiberlily@prodigy.net TATTER, AND 702 IF YOU ARE NEW TONIGHT YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR NAME BY TYPING /NICK YOURNAME erin holloway, tataconic@bellsouth.net, knoxville, tn LINDA WELCOME TO CLASS THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME I BELIEVE? yes ERIN GLAD TO SEE YOU HERE TONIGHT AM WAITING FOR MORE DIAGRAMS :) ANY QUESTIONS BEFORE WE START? *** Tatter741 has joined #tatchat WELCOME 741 TO CHANGE YOUR NAME TYPE /NICK YOURNAME *** Tatter is now known as Anne HI YA aNNE *** Tatter741 is now known as Cheryl\ GOOD JOB cHERYL! I did it! 06yeah, WTG More on the way! SUPER I AM SO INTRIGUED BY THE PROJECT OK TEH LESSON http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/shamrocklist.html *** Cheryl\ is now known as Cheryl2u OH BTW FOR THE NEWBIES PLEASE STO PAND ASK QUESTIONS ANY TIME GLAD TO REPEATOR BACK UP ANYTIME TOO AND AS YOU CAN TELL FROM THE ABOVE PLEASE DO NOT LAUGH AT MY NUMEROUS TYPOES I TAT BETTER THAN I TYPE I HOPE *** Tatter702 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) LOOKING AT THE LIST OF SHAMROCKS WE HAVE FOUND QUITE A FEW OF THEM THIS AFTERNOON RUTH PERRY CALLED AND SAID THAT THERE ARE SEVERAL ON TEH TATTING CALENDAR INCLUDING TODAYS *** Tatter has joined #tatchat http://tat-calendar.blogspot.com March 1, 2, 4, 5 11 12 IF YOU WANT TO GO GET THE ONES FROM THE 11 AND 12 OF MARCH WE WILL ADDRESS THEM IN CLASS DID ANYONE BRING A NEW PATTERN? OR FIND ONE NOT ON THE LIST? OK THE LESSON PAGES SHOWS THE PRISCILLA SHAMROCK AS OLD FAVORITE OF THE CLASS AS IT TEACHES THE USE OF THE PICOT GAUGE AS WELL AS MAKING A SHAMROCK I WAS ASKED THIS WEEK ABOUT THAT PATTERN *** Linda has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter547 has joined #tatchat WHY DOES IT INDICATE 1/2" SPACE BETWEEN THE RINGS *** Tatter547 is now known as Linda WB LINDA ANYONE HAVE A GUESS? thank you...grin. to give space for the rings to be able to lay on each other YES IT IS THE SPACE THAT IS NEEDED CHERYL AT THAT SPOT THERE WILL BE 2 JOINS IF YOU JOIN OVER THE PREVIOUS JOIN IT MAKES A LUMP I'm sorry, which one are we doing first? AND THE CHAINS DO LAY AS NICELY THE MAIN PAGE PRISCILLA SHAMROCK thank you. THIS CONSTRUCTION IS A VERY TYPICAL ONE FOR A SHAMROCK *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat THIS IS A TEST WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN A CLOVERLEAF AND A TREFOIL not sure shape Dawn ? FOIL = LEAF *** Tatter292 has joined #tatchat TRE = 3 3 same rings vs 2 one size 3rd larger THREE LEAFS FOR THE SHAMROCK = 3 RINGS center is larger *** Tatter292 is now known as tatcat14 YSE! TYPICAL A CLOVERLEAF IS CONSIDERED TO HAVE A LARGER CENTER RING Sorry I am late. WELCOME! BUT THE BASIC SHAPE OF THIS SHAMROCK IS A RING SURROUNDED BY CHAINS THERE ARE OTHER SIMILAR CONSTRUCTIONS IN THIS LIST *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) CAN YOU SPOT THEM? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter326 has joined #tatchat green being the overall color *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) http://www.freepatterns.com/list.html?cat_id=330 by Marie Reeves (you need to sign in with your email address to access the pdf) http://www.fortunecity.com/victorian/vangogh/235/just.html www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/shamrock.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/twshamrock.html ALL THOSE ARE BASED ON RING SURROUNDED BY CHAIN I BELIEVE *** Tatter has joined #tatchat http://www.geocities.com/sugar_lips_girl/clover.html this is Samantha's CAN YOU SPOT ANOTHER TYPICAL CONSTRUCTION IN THE LIST *** Tatter326 is now known as Sandriver *** Linda has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter494 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter494 is now known as Linda shoot I keep closing the wrong window. THANKS FOR THAT LINK THAT IS DEFINITELY A RING () CHAIN FORM stems are made from chains YOU SHOULD WRITE SAMANTHA'S NAME ON THE PATTERN IF YOU PRINT IT OFF EVERY TIME YOU POST A PATTERN YOU SHOUL DHAVE YOUR NAME AND DATE ON IT SOMEWHERE sure IS THAT SAMANTHA MELNYCHUK?? SPELLING? WELCOME CARMEN that sounds right. TATTER YOU CAN CHANGE YOUR NAME BY TYPING /NICK YOURNAME OK http://freewebs.com/needletattingtwo_0/groupTARdoily1.htm this was a TAR doily from Needletattingtwo OH GOOD ANOTHER ONE! thanks Sorry, having trouble with popups THAT HAS LOTS OF TREFOILS/CLOVERLEAFS IN IT OK LOOK AT THESE PATTERNS http://www.picotnet.com/Patterns/christinasham.htm http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/sonjashamrock.html http://www.terrythetatter.com/shamrock.html THESE ARE ALL BASED ON DIMPLED RINGS HAS EVERYONE DONE A DIMPLED RING ALREADY? ANY QUESTIONS ON IT? yes yes