Session Start: Mon Mar 05 13:46:40 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat hi ya Zena! hey Kate How are you doing, Georgia! I'm going to go check if anyone new has signed up or needs help to get to class back in 10 minutes just fine for an old lady thanks OK brb Hi Georgia and Zena. Yay! My new IRC client works!! I missed last week because I couldn't get into the class room with Internet Explorer. Hello, Kate. That sounds exciting stuff. Class was cancelled last week, nobody could get in oh! Well, that would explain it! :) Well, this works better anyway, because it is just an extension in Firefox which I normally use. I was doing the duck dance and telling Computer Genius he'd better put it right or else no more gingerbread for him! Doh! Did I have a big lump of humble pie to eat! :) What are you tatting at the moment? just starting a wedding hanky for my niece to be what about you? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat That sounds lovely. I haven't done any hankies in years but what a coincidence, I was thinking about them today, real fancy efforts. I suppose the wedding one will be an eyeful when you've done it. *** Tatter is now known as Eliz I'm doing a collar for a wedding suit for a friend. hope it will be nice wow! collars I've seen look too much for me Hi, everyone. Missed getting to meet with you last week. beautiful, though They can be a bit daunting but you could start with a pretty length that fits at the neck of a cami for evening wear Hello, Eliz *** Tatter has joined #tatchat ok I'm back hey Eliz good to see you March 5, 2007 our lesson for today is ZenaDfly http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/zena.html did everyone get to see it? no, not yet *** Tatter is now known as Katia open chat continues 7 min. hi ya Katie It wasn't there when I looked so I've put the photo and instructions at my site www.theseaofdreams.com/tatting Hello Everyone Hello, Katia oh great Zena it is always good to have a back up Thanks, AK. It's good to be here. Thank Computer Genius! everyone knows that the room locked us out last week? Hi Katia. she was threatening him with no gingerbread! That's quite a threat! Yes! I spent 30 minutes before I decided it wasn't me! I was away in Seattle and didn't know about it. The two lessons will be repeated in April or later in March I hope lol well I know sometimes my computer just freezes up and won't do anything soI alwasys figure the problem is me but this time it was the server not us! me, too oh whose got gingerbread pass it around I love gingerbread made with molasses I've had to give CG double shares as an apology. but today we settle for pear crisp. we got a box in the mail last week ah well one must keep CG happy Shall I send you my recipe later? it's molaases, all right! zena please feel free to send it to me also :) Give me your email, I'll be pleased to. lady_elhasa @hotmail.com AKTATTER@aol.com ok 2 more minutes open chat Got that! yumm! I'd like the recipe too! email, please katelingo#huttar.net (change # to @) thanks OK LETS GET SIGNED IN PLEASE 2 sec someone at the door GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA K Zena Herbert, sollan44@yahoo.co.uk oops! solaan44 etc Eliz Davis, Arkansas USA, tatknot@yahoo.com OH OH MY TUPOES ARE INFECTIOUS! ELIZ I HOPE YOU WERE SAFE FROM THOSE TORNADOES LAST WEEK WE LOST A LITTLE PIECE OF THE HOUSE SIDING IN BIG WINDS BUT NOTHING MAJOR yes, thank you. Alerts all day, but weather was calm. GOOD OK THE LESSON TODAY ZenaDfly http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/zena.html IS SHARED WITH THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS BY ZENA HERBERT OF THE UK Has everyone seen it now? thanks for the pdf Zena--love those! THIS IS YOUR FIRST TIME SHARING APATTERN WITH US BUT I KNOW IT WILL NOT BE THE LAST I hope not! ZENA PLEASE REPEAT THE LINK FOR YOUR WEBSITE www.theseaofdreams.com/tatting Kate Huttar, katelingo#huttar.net Dallas, TX USA Katia Vallée Sherbrooke QC Canada lady_elhasa @hotmail.com ZENA'S DRAGONFLY HAS BUT SIX SPLIT RINGS 4 SETS OF CHAINS back sorry was nt able to controle my self i had to buy some chocolate AND ONE HANGING CLUNY WHAT A LOT IS PACKED INTO THIS LITTLE DESIGN! LOL KATIE I BET THE BOYS HAVE IT EATEN BEFOR CLASS IS OVER I wanted to find a way to use these different techniques an this little thing seemed OK di know they will ZENA WOULD YOU LIKE TO TAKE US THROUGH THE DIRECTIONS? Certainly. I've started with 2 suttles, CTm and begun at the lower end of the body with SP of 5/5 http://members.aol.com/SLWelker/ctm.html CTM INFO ZENA PLEASE GO TO ALL CAPS that's split ring, the another of 6/6 then four rings of 7/7. So far so good? BASIC SPLIT RING INFO Splitring http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/5082/TatOnline/spring_instruction IS THAT BETTER? SO FRA SO GOOD YES THANKS IT MAKES IT EASIER TO SEE THE LESSON NOTES FROM THE CHATS FOR THE LOWER WING I'VE USED SH2 FOR THE STS AND SH1 FOR THE CORE HERE'S THE POSH BIT. *whisper* hush zach... you ll distract georgia LOL TELL ZACH HE IS CHEWING TOO LOUD DEAD SPIDER HAND POSITION FOR SPLIT RINGS http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/SplitRings.htm CH OF 1DS, VSP, 2DS, 4P SEP BY 2DS, EACH P A BIT LONGER THAN THE PRECEDING ONE DID YOU JUST EYEBALL THE PICOTS? OR USE A PICOT GAUGE? THEN 7DS. THIS MAKES THE TURNING POINT OF THE TOP OF THE WING. I EYEBALLED THEM I DON'T OFTEN USE A GAUGE OK JOIN INTO THE LAST P WORKED, SO THAT THE CH TURNS BACK ON ITSELF AND THIS IS THE BALL THREAD JOIN? inverted join ball thread join www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/joins/invertedtat.htm Jane E THE STS OF THE CH FACE INWARDS, TOWARDS THE MIDDLE PART OF THE WING. IS THIS CLEAR?THIS IS AN ORDINARY CH JOIN, DONE WITH THE THREAD OF SH2 RIGHT THAT IS WHAT WE ARE CALLING A BALL THREAD JOIN / SH2 JOIN IT IS COMING MORE INTO USE THESE DAYS CONTINUE WITH 2DS, JOIN TO NEXT P, DOWN TO THE START OF THE CH OK AT THE BASE OF THE WING, JOIN INTO THE VSP WE STARTED WITH. LEAVE A SP OF .125" AND THEN? WORK THE UPPER WING. SH2, AS BEFORE. VSP, 2DS, 6P SEP BY 2DS, EACH A BIT LONGER, LIKE BEFORE, FOR THE TURNING CURVE AT THE WING TIP, WORK 9DS CATCH THE THREAD OF SH2 IN A LOOP THRU THE LAST P MADE. DRAW THE LOOP THRU THE P AND THREAD SH2 THROUGH THIS LOOP FROM BACK TO FRONT. OK DON'T PULL IT TIGHTLY. LEAVE ENOUGH THREAD SO THAT WHEN YOU PULL THE LOOP BACK YOU HAVE ENOUGH TO MATCH HALF THE LENGTH OF THE PICOT YOU'RE JOINING TO YOU COULD SLIP A PICOT GAUGE OR PIECE OF CARDBOARD INTO THE LOOP TO PREVENT IT FROM DRAWING UP TOO MUCH ALSO MAKE THE JOIN SECURE AND WORK 1DS, LEAVING ENOUGH THREAD TO MATCH THE FIRST HALF OF THE 'PICOT' JOIN YES, THAT' A GOOD IDEA WORK A FULL DS, NOT JUST THE 2ND HALF OF THE ST AS PER A NORMAL JOIN AH HA! THAT POINTS OUT A DIFFERENCE WORK 1 MORE DS, THEN ANOTHER 'JOIN' INTO THE NEXT P. OK eACH PICOT JOIN HAS TWO FULL DS BETWEEN TAKE CARE THAT THE DECORATIVE KNOT OF THIS PICOT JOIN STAYS CERTAL IN THE WING SPACE SORRY, CENTRAL AT THE WING BASE, JOIN NORMALLY INTO THE VSP. ARE WE ALL TOGETHER? YES THE "KNOT" ADDS A LOT OF TEXTURE TO THE OVERALL DESIGN yes OK HERE yes both of us LEAVE ANOTHER.125" SPACE USE A SEPARATE LENGTH OF THREAD TO WORK THE HANGING CLUNY FOR THE HEAD I've been in an out, mostly out :b (taking care of children and making bread). Will have to catch up later. LOG WILL POST TONIGHT KATE << LOVE HOMEBAKED BREAD AFTER SIX FULL PASSES(BACK AND TO) WEAVE FROM R TO L (Zach and my Anna will have to get together. Anna likes to tat, too. She's three.) :) HANGING CLUNY INFO http://georgiaseitz.com/users/sherong/hangingcluny.pdf ARE TEH BEADS ON THE EXTRA EAVING THREAD? THREAD ONE BEAD - I USED SIZE9/00 - ONTO THE WEAVER THREAD AND SNUG IT CLOSE TO THE LEAF BEFORE MAKING THE L-R PASS OK THEY ARE ADDED AT THE LAST MINUTE THEN (hehe send a picture kate of her she could go with zach on g homework page) YES, I PUT THEM ON AS I GO BECAUSE THE WEAVER THREAD IS A SEPARATE LENGTH THAT'S RIGHT! ALWYAS LIKE TO POST NEW TATTERS AT WORK :) OK ZENA ARE YOU FINGER TATTING THE HANGING CLUNY? WHEN THE PASS IS COMPLETED FROM THAT FIRST BEAD THREAD, THREAD ON ONE MORE BEAD YES, I THREAD IT IN A NEEDLE FOR EASE AH i KNEW THERE WAS A TRICK TO IT! good idea USING NEEDLE AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE OPENS MANY POSSIBILITIES FOR VARIATIONS SNUG THE SECOND BEAD CLOSE TO THE LEAF AND MAKE TWO PASSES MORE. THAT MAKES A LEAF OF 9 FULL PASSES WITH BEADS ADDED AS WE GO. I OFTEN DO THAT, I FIND IT CAN HELP WIOTH SHORT THREADS OR TRICKY TIGHT BITS COMPLETE THE LEAF AS USUAL MAKE A LOCK STITCH AT THE BASE TO KEEP THE SHAPE BETTER ANOTHER SPACE OF .125", THEN WORK THE UPPER WING AND THE LOWER WING TO MATCH THE FIRST ONES WE DID. SHTL LOCK JOIN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html FASTEN THE THREADS INTO THE TOP SPLIT RING OF THE BODY AND FASTEN OFF WITH MAGIC INVISIBILITINESS WELL THIS IS QUITE AN EXERCISE ZENA! MANY THANKS FOR SHARING IT WITH US I THINK THE WINGS HERE ARE A PERFECT PLACE TO TRY A BLENDING FILAMENT IT'S REALLY MY PLEASURE! wHAT FUN! nice work Zena TO GET THAT IRRIDESCENT LOOK OF DRAGONFLY WINGS IF YOU LIKE DRAGONFLY PATTERNS HERE ARE A FEW MORE YOU COULD WORK BEADS INTO THEM, THREADING THEM ONTO THE PICOTS yes, I was thinking black thread with an irridescent blending filament http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/sssr/rietdfly.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/rietcelticdfly.html http://www.ds9designs.com/patterns_free.html http://freespace.virgin.net/bo.hanson/Tatting/BeadedDragonfly/BeadedDragonfly.htm OR YOU COULD USE CH FOR THE BODY, WITH LITTLE JK FEET GOOD IDEA eLIZ Wow! beads on the hanging cluny. That sounds like something challenging. OR PUT BLACK SHINY BEAD IN THE CEN TEROF THE SPLIT RINGS TOO YES BEADS ON CLUNY IS SOMETHING I HAVE NEVER DONE YET IF YOU USED CH, YOU'D NEED TO WORK BACK DOWN SIDE 2 OF THE BODY AFTER THE WINGS I've been needing to try inward facing picots and hanging clunies. This looks like a fun piece to practice with! ARE THERE ANY QUESTIONS FOR ZENA? ask me again after I get out the shuttles! OK ELIZ! ZENA HAS AN EMAIL LINK ON THE PAGE AND IN THE LOG TOO ZENA YOU DID A GREAT JOB you could also load the bead onto the shuttle and place them as you need THANKS FOR TAKING US THORUGH THIS thanks so much, Zena Thanks Zena! THANK YOU VERY MUCH, IT REALLY IS MY PLEASURE AER THERE ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS TODAY? thanks zena ya how to keep kid away from this class THIS LESSON REPEATS AT 8:30pm ET (NEW YORK TIME) TONIGHT NAP TIME? done that he woke up at 3 COOKIES AND MILK? DO YOU NEED ME FOR THEN?? That's what I have to do! Maybe I can get one made by then. Then I can check in if I'm having problems. ZENA WE WOULD LOVE TO HAVE YOU BUT i KNOW THAT IS IT 2-3 AM YOUR TIME YES, THAT' RIGHT. I'D PROBABLY BE IN SLEEP-MODE BUT I'LL COME IN YOU WISH YOU ARE MOST WELCOME :) OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? I'LL TRY THANKS EVERYONE FOR STOPPING BY THANKS ZENA BYE FOR NOW HAPPY TATTING ALL Thank you for having me Thanks AK & Zena thank for the class Session Close: Mon Mar 05 14:40:43 2007 Session Start: Mon Mar 05 19:28:59 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat Do you like her patterns? I'm not on her mailing list yet 12I just finished Mimi's class and she 'promoted' me LOL 06hi Georgia! Hiy'all Good evening, Georgia I'm hoping to bring in some new tatters this week. I have a class starting tomorrow. 12good evening, Georgia Zena, you night owl how nice to see you here Hello G. congrats BJ at joining the big time! *** Tatter is now known as Sandriver Thank you - it's nice to be with you all Hi greetings to everyone 12lol CG good to see you here Linda, Carmen too Hey Betty *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 982 you can change you name by typing /nick yourname Hello Georgia! open chat continues 10 minutes 06thank you Georgia...how was your last teaching job? *** Tatter is now known as Jon *** Tatter582 has joined #tatchat that gingerbread recipe looks good! 06hi Jon. the LPS meeting was swell a real no stress event and lots of fun Oh, good! CG has taken the tin to bed with him and hidden it somewhere safe 06which gingerbread recipe jon welcome 06fun is always good! Zena shared it Hi, Jon Hello everyone 06oh I guess I missed that? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as icela 06hi Mary. Zena's Gingerbead: Grease and line two 9"sq tins. Oven temperature 160deg C. 8ozs butter 8ozs brown sugar 1 large egg 7 fluid ozs molasses 10ozs self-raising flour,sieved with 1+1/2 teaspoon baking soda, 1 heaping teaspoon each cinnamon and ground ginger, 1/2 teaspoon each ground nutmeg and salt and 1/4 teaspoon ground cloves. scant 10 fluid ozs boiling water 3-4 pieces stem ginger, chopped 4ozs chopped pecans or walnuts (optional) Melt the butter. Beat in the sugar and the egg. (I use a wooden spoon, not a mixer). Add the molasses. Add the flour sieved with the spices. Beat well. Add the boiling water, the ginger, the nuts. Pour into the tins. It is a very loose batter. 60 - 75 mins baking time. Test for doneness as usual with a skewer. Cool in the tin. Keeps well, freeze/thaw stable. Very good with lemon butter icing or with soured cream. I hope you enjoy it! It doesn't rise much but it is so yummy - let me know what you think when you try it. Kind regards, Zena If you want to email me on solaan44@yahoo.co.uk I'll send it to you. hi gi hi linda Mary, thank you thank you the tin was just great sorry there is no chocolate left to pass around it was kind of you to share that with me pipped at the post (ho-ho!) 12I am glad you liked it G 12Is it 'soft' or 'hard' gingerbread? 12I didn't think there would be. I know you liked the tin 582 982 you can chang eyour name by typing /nick yournmae hinged lid was great It's a bit soft and chewy, not hard at all, more like a squidgy cake 12you are the greatest g *** Tatter582 is now known as sherong welcome sheron Sorry -thought I had linda Stacked flower is by Teri Dusenbury 12Sounds really good! YUM 12what is good stacked flowers...LOL It certainly doesn't get the chance to display its keeping qualityies still looking for the url I will email it to you 06thank you Georgia, it looks like you won't have to bother Zena? LoL 12Oh I got Jan's book Linda That's fine. Enjoy it! 06ok, thank you Betty. is it at esnips? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat you can find most of teri's patterns here http://www.esnips.com/_t_/dusenbury 06oh good, *** Tatter is now known as alphaprimavera 12the book is really great everyone paule bienvenue Whew! I am glad to be in with you! Allo Georgia! *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 12why what happened alpha paule aujourdui je lise un roman un histoire du France, du Midi, du Carcassone. Tres intrigue Could not get in last week! 06I'm sure that I will..thank you for sharing the recipe. C'est quoi le titre? I could not get in last week either sorry the classroomm got locked last week all better now *** Tatter is now known as essm Labryinth martha wwelcome Bonjout Martha! glad to know it wasn't us Charles Trenent venait de Carcassone, je crois? oui 12as usual i fell asleep...its that retirement thing...LOl Hello Paule 3 more minutes open chat I wish I could fall asleep easily... 12G is the recipe going to be in the log...I love gingerbread it is already Mary will post he log after class 12oh good I'm so pleased it has had such a great reception. I do a mean lemon meringue pie, too. 12i love gingerbread with lemon sauce or whipped cream 12thats another favorite of mine Zena Paule, I read your note and the lesson with Debbie will be rescheduled for later this month or in April I don't believe it! Watch this space next week! Key Lime pie for me please 12my husbands favorite ruth;s lesson will be repeated also *** CarolynG has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) OK AK We can't easily get good limes here, just wizened little apologies 04do any of you Quill? I do some I quilt 12not me 06no, but it's lovely. sometimes I attach tatting to it a long time ago I quilled a few snowflakes 982 to change your name type /nick yourname 12I tried it once and the quill flipped across the room i love the look of quilling 06I do the same with COLCHA EMBROIDERY gillian buchanan is a master quilller ok let's get started I used to make earrings and brush them with jones tones to siffen and sparkle them. 05I don't either but I like the look of them Is quilling the same as quilting? please sing in SIGN IN LA LA LA 04I do it on gift boxes or around pictures and certificates and wedding anouncements but thinking I could tat 04quilling is with paper rolled up it is pretty 12LOL GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA I've quilled before too sheron goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, columbia, SC 06Beverly Davis, Silver City, New Mexico beeloyal1@aol.com ZENA HERBERT, ENGLAND, SOLAAN44@YAHOO.CO.UK 12icela/mary donohue icela52@bellsouth.net columbia sc 04Betty McDermott ntmatt2540@msn.com Salina , KS usa QUIULLING PATTERNS ARE GOOD INSPIRATIONS FOR TATTING PATTERNS 05jon wanfaizonyusoff @yahoo.com.my from Malaysia ONION RINGS joyce schermerhorn, muncie, indiana Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime@vl.videotron.ca MARCH 5 8:30PM ET 06Linda Barnes, Woodbridge, VA, USA Carmen Renee, Peru, carlat476@gmail.com THE LESSON IS BY ZENA HERBERT Martha Ess essm@bellsouth.net greensboro NC ZenaDfly http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/zena.html IT IS ALSO POSTED AT ZENA' WEBSITE 04Linda what is your email http://www.theseaofdreams.com/tatting 06lingram2@comcast.net oops sorry, forgot. THANK YOU, GEORGIA jOYCE IT HAS BEEN SUCH A LONG TIME joycemscherm@yahoo.com JOYCE CHANGE YOUR NAME JUST TYPE /NICK JOYCE it has! Joyce MANY THANKS TO ZENA WHO IS STAYING UP EXTRA LATE