Session Start: Mon Feb 05 13:27:39 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat Feb. 5, 2007 3PM ET class *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter369 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter369 is now known as Katia *** Tatter is now known as Zena Hello early birds hi Zena Have you had a good week? beside its cold its alright and you Yes, fine, thank you. It's been chilly here but not as fierce as with you. I've been doing some new hats for the Spring range nice what are you tatting lately I've started on my snowflake stock for next Christmas - I'm almost ashamed to say it! And I've been playing wiht some little beasties. Andd you? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter804 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as RuthPerry Hello, Ruth Hi Zena *** Tatter804 is now known as DorcasAnn beside preparing 3 classes i also have been tatting some snowflake and some terry mcgriffin bell for next xmast Hello Dorcas Ann Hello, everyone Hi ruth and Dorcas Ann 05Hi Dorcas I'm relieved to know I'm not alone! Do you find bells are as popular as snowflakes? well up here bell are new most people never saw those type of bell but snowlake are well appreciated hello all Hello G 05Hi Georgia Whereabouts are you, Katia? Bells are fine but most tatters I know tat snowflakes Hello, Georgia *** Tatter has joined #tatchat i live in a town name sherbrooke in Quebec Hi, Georgia Hi ya Dorcas! Ruth Zena you got good seats? Eh bien! My brother lived in Toronto for many years Katiatat did you get the email about gilles? nice around 6 hours from where i am Fine, thanks, I can see everything from here *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) she just signed up for the class 05The best seat in the house... sitting here with some suisse mocha, chocolate mint cookies and my tatting and computer hmm chocolate *** Tatter has joined #tatchat let me go look Georgia I thought you might see if she lives close to you Kat 05No, mmmmmmmmm - CHOCOLATE I've a gingerbread in the oven.... Ruth I sent the message about the classroom to the list already 05Cool! I made oatmeal raisin cake out of the leftover oatmeal from breakfast today good on a cold day That sounds good - details later, please! *** Tatter is now known as Susanne 05We have a pot of gumbo on Yum! did everyone get the lesson printed ok? 12Evening all This is like a Jacob's Join Edda Guastalla has added a diagram to the gentian flower I had to get it from the index Susanne so nice to see you 05Why is it call gentian? 12Likewise Georgia that is the name of the flower it is found in the Alps 05Ok, I've never been to the alps. Used to make a potent liqueur i did nt recieved any thing from gillesyet *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Hope Hi, Hope 12Hi Hope Hi All... Hello, Hope - what a lovely name Hello hope look here http://www.pbase.com/edwina_b/flowers_of_the_dolomite_alps 05Hi Hope!!! brrrr 65 in Miami - do you have your winter coat on? I only sent the note to you Katia I thought you might write her and say hi lol ruth i sure have mine -27 in sherbrooke with the wind It was 10 above here this morning 05But isn't that normal for the north pole or thereabouts? Georgia send it to me by aim GillesThibault 2012 de Casson Trois-Rivières Québec G8Y 7E8 CAN gilles.thibault@ewol.com LOL Ruth im way south then the north pole oh I just sent it now Hopie! ill contact her i know someone near there to teach her 05:-) it has warmed up to 12 here today I actually had to move the heat dial up to 65! thanks katia ok we sould get started please sing in lol... with our hi humidity it feels cold to Miamians GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM Zena from England Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA Hope Green love2tat@gmail.com Miami Fl 05Ruth Perry Overland Park, KS rjpoms@yahoo.com 12Susanne, Aarhus in Denmark THANKS SO MUCH FOR COMING TO CLASS ON SUCH A COLD DAY! Katia vallée serbrooke q canada lady_elhasa"hotmail.com lol IT FEELS GOOD TO HUDDLE OVER A "HOT" COMPUTER! 05;-) OUT LESSON LINKS FOR FEB 5, 2007 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/hearthankymask.html *** Hope has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2007/ruthpheart.jpg http://www.thebaileys.themutual.net/mardipat.htm LET'S START WITH rUTH PERRY'S PETIT ONE SHUTTLE WORK HEART BTW IF YOU ARE A NEW TATTER PLEASE RAISE YOUR HAND? NO ALL OLD TIMERS HERE I THINK! 12lol, how do we do that 05wHATCH WHO YR CALLING OLD YOU JUST DID SUSANNE OPPS EXPERIENCED TATTERS IS THAT BETTER? 12I am not a new tatter, sorry 05THANK YOU IF YOU ARE INTERESTED IN STUDYING ONE SHUTTLE WORK MARK MYERS HAS A LOVELY NEW BOOKS http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/myershow2.html 05GEORGEOUS BOOK! *** Tatter has joined #tatchat and its a good one for shuttle only *** Tatter is now known as Hope wb hope WB HOPE IT REALLY IS AMAZING WHAT WONDERFUL WORK CAN BE TATTED WITH JUST ONE SHUTTLE 05HOPIE, FASTEN SEAT BELT, WE DON'T WANT TO LOOSE YOU AGAIN *** Tatter has joined #tatchat RUTH WOUL DYOU LIKE TO TALK ABOUT THE HEART PATTERN? I can't minimize this page and go get something else on computer :-( can someone tell me how to?? 05SURE.. THIS LITTLE HEART, AND I DO MEAN LITTLE IS PERFECT FOR EARRINGS 05IT IS GREAT FOR USING UP A YARD OR SO OF THREAD ON A SHUTTLE Ruth- when I went to file the pattern!! GOT 2 WINDOWS OPEN HOPE? I found where I had a copy from years ago... and with it a wee heart tatted by Carol lawecki in # 20 Manuels-- it is SO precious TATTER YOU CAN CHNAGE YOUR NAME BY TYPING /NICK YOURNAME 05JUST RINGS NO SPACE BETWEEN THEM and so tiny done in the 20 LEAVING NO SPACE FORCES A CURVE IN THE WORK? 05THE STITCH COUNT AND THE THREE BEADS GIVE THE HEART SHAPE 05RING 2 - 3 - 2 IS A RING THAT GIVES A FAIRLY STRONG CURVE I like the diagram over the heart.. 05AND THE 2 - 2 - 2 IS LESS OF A CURVE. 05THE RING AT THE POINT GIVES A DECORATIVE "POINT" TO THE BOTTOM OF THE HEART 05EVEN THO THIS HEART IS LITTLE, IT CAN BE HELD "INSIDE OUT" TO DO THE FINAL JOIN That's really sweet. Could you hang it upside down? AND THE THREE BEADS ARE O NTHE SHUTTLE CORE THREAD BETWEEN THE CLOSED RINGS 05IT DOESN'T LOOK GOOD IF THE TATTING IS LOOSE OR UNEVEN, SO IT'S A GOOD PROJECT TO PRACTICE IMPROVING YOUR TATTING FRO MORE INFO ON BEAD BASICS Beadbasics http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasics.html 05GEORGIA TEACHES TATTING IMPROVEMENT CLASSES AT TAT DAYS - VERY GOOD TO GET A HANDLE ON HOW TO MAKE IT LOOK BETTER TIGHTER THE BETTER? 05YES, AS LONG AS IT'S NOT SO TIGHT THAT THE THREAD BREAKS 05TIGHT BUT EVEN TENSION - THE BETTER OK GOOD 12Tight is a problem sometimes though I find josephine knots difficult to make tightly YOU MEAN SOMETIMES IT IS TOO LOOSE SUZANNE 05I PUT A JUMP RING THROUGH ONE OF THE RINGS AT THE TOP BUMP OF THE HEART AND A JUMP RING BETWEEN THAT ONE AND THE EARRING HOOK SO IT HANGS NICELY IT IS THEIR NATURE TO BE "LOOSEY" 12No I mean that the thread breaks and it puts a strain on my arm also 05THE PICOTS NEED TO BE SMALL ALSO DID YOU START THE JK AND END IT WITH A FULL DS? 12My tatting is very even - and tight too AH WOW YOU MUST BE STRONG OK ANY QUESTIONS ON THIS TINY HEART BY rUTH? 05EXPLAIN 'JK" No, I end after the 7 or 8 first halves 12I can feel it is not good for my arm anymore Josephine Knot THE MORE HS THE "CURVIER" THE JK JOSEPHINE kNOT WHICH = JOSEPHINE RING, NOT A KNOT AT ALL JUST A LEFTOVER TERM FROM EARLY NEEDLEWORK DAYS Yes, I'm making them as apples on a little tree 05I DO A FULL DS AT THE BEGINNING AND END OF JOSEPHINE RINGS ME TOO *** Tatter579 has joined #tatchat 12That is a good idea which I will remember to do Do you find that makes them easier to draw up evenly? that's a great tip, will try that *** Tatter579 is now known as Maryjane 05:-) WELL A "JOSEPHINE KNOT" USED TO BE A CARRICK BEND KNOT IN EMBROIDERY AND MACRAME http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk.html 05A JOSEPHINE RING IS THE THING WITH HALF DS Hi, Mary Jane *** Tatter is now known as tatknot WELCOME mARY GLAD YO UMADE IT I couldn't get on., computer problem 05HI MARY JANE Hello, Mary Jane 05WE WERE JUST FINISHING UP TALKING ABOUT MY LITTLE HEARTS 12Great you could come Hello Everybody I THINK IT A NECESSITY OF MAKING THE JOSEPHINE RING ZENA 05IT ONLY TAKES ME ABOUT HALF AN HOUR TO TAT A PAIR OF EARRINGS AND I SELL THEM FOR $10 Thank you, I'll give it a good try and report back. Do you use post fittings as wll as hoks? 12That sounds very good Ruth sorry, hooks i THINK THAT IF I STARTED AT THE SECOND "THREESY" RING ON THE RIGHT, i COULD CLIMB OUT USING A LONG TAIL AND MAKE A NECKLACE OUT OF THIS LEART TOO MAKE 6-8 IN A ROW PERHAPS? 05I DON'T, BUT YOU CERTAINLY COULD OR YOU COULD MOUNT A HEART IN A SMALL RING THAT IS ALREADY ON A POST That's a smart idea! MANY THANKS TO RUTH PERRY FOR SHARING THIS PATTERN WITH US 05I'VE SEEN A LOT OF LOOP EARRINGS Thank you, Ruth RUTH, BTW DO YOUHAVE THE LINK TO YOUR WEBSITE HANDY? Thanks, Ruth, I like it 12Yes thank you Ruth 05YOU'RE WELCOME - ENJOY thank you Ruth *** tatknot is now known as Eliz HI YA ELIZ Hi, Georgia. so great to be here. been long time OK LET'S LOOK AT HELEN'S MARDI GRAS MASK YES IT HAS BEEN ALONG TIME HELEN'S EMAIL ADDRESS IS NOT WORKING SO IF ANYONE HAS A RECENT CONTACT I WOUL DSURE LIKE TO HAVE IT http://www.thebaileys.themutual.net/mardipat.htm THE TWO WINGS OF THE MASK ARE MIRROR IMAGES OF EACH OTHER BUT THOSE NASTY WORDS "CUT AND TIE" APPEAR HERE WHAT DO YOU THINK? My heart sinks IF WE STARTED WITH RING N ON THE DIAGRAM EITHER SIDE LOL ME TOO ZENA 12lol WE COULD TAT AROUND MAKE CHAIN I A SPLIT CHAIN MAKE THAT CENTER NOSE PIECE RING A SPLIT RING COME OUT INTO CHAIN 1 ON THE OPPOSITE SIDE WITH A LITLE SPLIT CHAIN AGAIN AND TAT AROUND MAKING IT ALL ONE PIECE? BUT DO YOU SEE WHAT PROBLEM POPS UP? ON THE CENTER NOSE PIECE RING? GOSH WHAT A RESOUNDING SILENCE LOL THE NOSE PIECE RING HAS THE BEADS OVER THE JOINED PICOTS you won't be able to join with 2 picots each side we wait with bated breath, that's why IF DOING THIS WITH THE SHUTTLE WE WOULD HAVE TO ADD PIECES TO EACH OF THE 2 SHUTTLES OR UNWIND USE NEEDLE TO GO THROUGH THE BRIDGING PICOT WELL WE COULD MAKE THE JOINS i HTINK ELIZ THE SPLIT RING SIDE WOULD HAVE TO BE A SLJ OR LHPJ I THINK 12What is a LHPJ OR MAYBE JUST LEAVE THE BEADS OFF THE OPICOTS so the problem is how to get that first bead in place? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/lhpj/lhpj.html 12Thanks YES AND TO EXIT BOTH THREADS THROUGH ONE BEAD *** Susanne has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat SUSANNE THIS JOIN IS LIKE MAKING A WRAPPED DS (AS IN A SPLIT RING) BUT THE THREAD YOU COVER IS THE TOP OF A PICOT what if we add extra beads and leave one on each thread making 4 each side THAT IS A GOOD SOLUTION ELIZ *** Tatter is now known as Susanne SUSANNE THIS JOIN IS LIKE MAKING A WRAPPED DS (AS IN A SPLIT RING) BUT THE THREAD YOU COVER IS THE TOP OF A PICOT PLEASE NOTE THAT THE MARDI GRAS COLORS ARE I don't know it, either, Susanne, so I'll check it ou, too PURPLE GREEN AND GOLD 12Thank you and sorry for being absent SEAT FOR SUSANNE {{{{ CLICK}}}} OK ANY QUESTIONS ONT HE MASK? You missed the cookies LOL 12lol Zena I didn;t get a cookie or a seat 12lol OK THIS IS NOT PATTERN OF THE REGULAR LESSON BUT EDDA SENT THIS GENTIAN PATTERN AROUND http://digilander.libero.it/chiacchierino/news05/genziane.html No thanks, I'll give it a whirl, first. It looks interesting AND SHE ADDED TODAY THE DIAGRAM FOR IT and here I am shuttles in hand waiting for your hanki edging lol LOL WELL JUST A QUICK NOTE THEN it looked SO SIMPLE THOSE ARE LONG CHAINS 12:-) THE SHORTER CHAINS ON THE ENDS OF THE BLUE BLOSSOMS JOIN TO THE TOPS OF PICOT WHICH ARE RATHRE LONG I JUST THINK THIS WOULD BE A GREAT SPOT FOR THE LHPJ TO PRACTICE IT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/lhpj/lhpj.html DOES ANYONE SEE ANY PROBLEMS IN IT? OK THANKS TO EDDA FOR SHARING WITH US Not that leap out at me 12I didn't have time to study it, sorry not at first sight OK HOPIE YOU'RE ON *** Tatter has joined #tatchat THE LAST PATTERN FOR TODAY IS AN ANTIQUE HANKY EDGING I RECEIVED THIS AS A GIFT THIS WEEK *** Tatter is now known as Kate HI YA KATE hell kate Looks pretty 12Hello Kate YOU CAN SEE THAT IT HAS INITIALS EMBROIDERED ON IT Hi all. Sorry I'm late. Forgot while getting the girls down for nap! :b Hi, Kate WE COULDN'T TELL IF IT WERE A G OR AN S BUT BOTH WORK FOR ME! Hello, Kate YOU ARE WELCOME ANYTIME KATE thanks AND YES HOPE THIS IS A SIMPLE REPEAT lol simple THE RINGS ARE ALL FOURS 12You were lucky there, Georgia AND THE CHAINS ARE 6 right YES I WAS ! BETWEEN EACH PICOT OR JOIN YOU CAN SEE THE BASIC OUTLINE AND THE DS COUNT BUT NOW TAKE A LOOK AT THE CORNER no! wait THE REAL ONE AND THE DIAGRAM OH! big ring, big chain, big ring OK HOPE Where do you start the hankie pattern right? then you go around the 2nd big ring adding the small 4+4 rings to it? i WOULD START WITH A SIDE RING mj thanks BIG RING YOU COULD START THERE TOO R 4 - 4 - 4 - 4 CLR RW CH 6 - 6 RW R 4 + (JOIN TO FIRST PICOT ON INITIAL RING) 4 CLR RW CH 6 - 6 RW ETC JOIN THE UPPER 2 RINGS IN THE SAME PICOT MAKE THREES RING IN ONE PICOT BUT THIS EDGING MAKES THE CORNER EASY NO NEED TO GET OUT THE MAGIC MIRROR OR ANYTHING IT IS JUST WHEN SEWING DOWN THE PICOTS TO THE FABIC FABRIC THE LAST PICOT ON ONE CHAIN IS SEWN DOWN THE CHAIN AND RING AND CHIAN ARE TATTED THE NEXT PICOT IS SEWN DOWN IN THE SAME SPOT AS THE PREVIOUS ONE OVERLAPPING A BIT THAT MAKES IT SO EASY nice! ANOTHER WAY TO TURN A CORNER EASILY IS TO MAKE 2 OF THE CHAIN ELEMENTS JOINING THEM IN THE SAME SPOT ALSO ANY QUESTIONS?? That certainly seems straightforward no so far A GOOD PATTERN FOR BICOLOR WORK 12No questions DECORARIVE PICOTS COULD CERATINLY BE LEFT OFF yes, i like the two color look OF BEADS COULD BE ADDED Like a very fancy jug cover MANY THANKS TO tERRY FOR SHARING THIS PATTERN WITH THE CLASS Thank you! yes, thanks GOSH RUTH, EDDA, HELEN, TERRY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR HELPING OUT 12Thanks ANY OTHER QUESTIONS TODAY? thanks 12No none I shan't be here next week, sorry. Family duty calls. IF YOU HAVE ORDERED THE LAVALLE CDS AND FOUND A PAGE MISSING PLEASE EMAIL ME AFTER CLASS good lesson YOU JOIN US ANYTIME ZENA THANKS HOPIE Great, thank you Can I come back tonight? :) I may have some after I review Edda's pattern and hlpj's but good for now *** Katia has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 12Thanks for today - and the funny typos too ;-) THIS ROOM IS OPEN 365/24/7 AND MAY BE USED BY ALL TATTERS THIS LESSON REPEATS AT 8:30pm et TONIGHT Bye, Susanne - have fun PLEASE DO KATE ANYTIME 05BYE ALL Thank you 12Bye all bye all Good night THE BEGINNERS CLAS IS LED BY MIMI AND ANITA AND MEETS ON THURSDAYS 9PM et good bye! Bye *** Tatter485 has joined #tatchat *** DorcasAnn has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) MANY THANKS FOR STOPPING BYE 12Thanks Georgia YOU ARE MOST WELCOME thanks Georgia BYE FOR NOW AND HAPPY TATTING ALL *** Tatter485 is now known as katia Session Close: Mon Feb 05 14:56:01 2007 Session Start: Mon Feb 05 19:10:08 2007 *** Now talking in #tatchat 06Hi Georgia hello all T McG?? 06That's me thank you thank your thank you :) 06I couldn't pass it up. 04we didnt get humming birds but this is our first year of feeding the birds 06It was all just the way you rec'd it. I didn't do the tatting hi ya Betty Linda Mary glad you got in ok 04has any one seen a red bird to tat??? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat serendipidity :) 06We'll have to check with Jane 04hey gerogia 04I'd love to find one! *** Tatter is now known as sherong 06Hi Sheron Hi all. 04of coarse if it has split rings I will have to wiat! LOL 06How's SC. 06Nah, you'll be doing them in 10 minutes Cold but no snow. Icela is here in SC also 06She's been silent. May be away from her computer 10hi Georgia. 04oh you have faith Terry so I will say I am going to learn the splits!!! 06you bet! *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 10it's 13 degrees F here right now in Virginia. 06Georgia, we decided your idea to meet here is a good one so Betty and I are meeting tomorrow night same time, same place. http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/drakebird.html 0613 in Virginia. Wow, That's cold checking for anyone needing hel pto get into the classroom got the bird page too 06There's the cardinal Betty *** Tatter502 has joined #tatchat