ThreadsCanada: Actually I'm Rita - is there some way to change the name?? OnTheGo731: no you get to keep this name in here OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. Lady Elhasa: no but we will learn your name after a while Lady Elhasa: BTW im Katia Smeullie: Georgia the oictures I mailed are the cat from last week and the thistle from this week ThreadsCanada: All righty then - this is fun ThreadsCanada: Hi Katia AJtat: Is Rita the Rita from Palmetto with the tatted fan class? OnlineHost: Quiltinbe has entered the room. ThreadsCanada: Yup - that's me :-) Quiltinbe: Hi Everyone AJtat: Great. I really liked the fan. ByHisWord2: Sorry I have to go Good night AJtat: But I have to finish it up though. ThreadsCanada: Did you take that class? AJtat: Yes. OnlineHost: TattingWally has entered the room. AJtat: Enjoyed it very much. Smeullie: Hi Wally Lady Elhasa: Hi Wally TattingWally: Hi y TattingWally: all! ThreadsCanada: Give me a hint - Name ThreadsCanada: Hi Wally AJtat: AJTat is Anna Jean from Memphis ThreadsCanada: It's so good to see you here :-) AKTATTER: Riet thte last download Ihave from you is Aug 6 about Ineke OnlineHost: lingram222 has entered the room. OnlineHost: LadyJudith has entered the room. lingram222: hi Georgia! OnlineHost: TattingWally has entered the room. TattingWally: I'm back! LadyJudith: hi everyone, thanks for the invitation, Geirgia lingram222: I can't believe I made it tonight...I finally figured out how to log on AOL chat. LoL AKTATTER: great! OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. Lady Elhasa: Hi Judith lingram222: Thank you for the invite, Georgia!!! AKTATTER: OK LET'S GET STARTED AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Smeullie: I wasn't in your class Rita but i met you in the vending room AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM OnTheGo731: Jeanne Zukowski Lake Peekskill, NY Lady Elhasa: Katia Vallée Sherbrooke, Québec, Canada lady_elhasa@hotmail.com lingram222: Linda Barnes, Woodbridge, Va lingram2@comcast.net AJtat: Anna Jean Phillips, Memphis, TN AJTat@aol.com TattingWally: Wally Sosa needledreams@yahoo.comCarolina, PR Quiltinbe: Stephanie Whittington Charles Town, WV Quiltinbe@aol.com ThreadsCanada: ThreadsCanada - Rita Cochrane, Princeton, Ontario, Canada LadyJudith: Corie Geller, Woodland Hills, CA ... sorry for the typo, Georgia Smeullie: Riet Surtel-Smeulders Tilburg The bNetherlands Surtel-Smeulde@kpnplanet.nl AKTATTER: OCT. 22, 2006 THE LESSON TONIGHT IS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/rcthistledopin.html AJtat: brb neighbor coming home and have to make sure she gets in her house. AKTATTER: OK AJ AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TONIGHT AKTATTER: TO RITA COCHRANE AKTATTER: FROM AYR CANADA FOR SHARING HER AKTATTER: THISTLE DO PIN WITH THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS AKTATTER: RITA, I HAVE THE FIRST QUESTION!! ThreadsCanada: Shoot AKTATTER: WHAT DOES THE "DO" MEAN IN THISTLEDO? AKTATTER: SHOOT? NO THA'S AFTER THE CLASS RITA OnTheGo731: Rita since you will be teacing you get to go to Capital letters ThreadsCanada: I have no idea - Karey Solloman named it AKTATTER: LOL Smeullie: Rita please caps ThreadsCanada: OK AKTATTER: OK THEN GO TOCAPS NOW RITA AKTATTER: LET'S TAKE A QUICK LOOK AT THE PATTERN OVERALL OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. AKTATTER: THIS THISTLE HAS A STEM AKTATTER: A LRAGE CALYX MADE FROM BEADED MIGNONETTE Smeullie: This is not nice Who cicks me out every time AKTATTER: AND FLUFFY PURPLE FIBERS FOR THE FLOWER PART AKTATTER: OK RIET PUT ON THE SEAT BELT {{{CLICK}}} TattingWally: aw... Riet want some duct tape or velcro? Smeullie: I did and have glue lingram222: better make it super glue... AKTATTER: RITA, ARE THERE ANY SPECIAL PITFALLS WE SHOULD KNOW ABOUT BEFORE STARTING? Smeullie: pitfalls ThreadsCanada: THE BIGEST ONE IS MAKING SURE YOU CARRY THE DOUBLE THREAD UP THE SIDES AKTATTER: SPECIAL PROBLEMS Smeullie: thanks ThreadsCanada: NONE REALLY OnTheGo731: YES how do you join in the top of the beads on row 1 AKTATTER: WELL MAYBE WE SHOULD START AT THE BEGINNING AKTATTER: WHICH RING IS THE FIRST ONE WE TAT? ThreadsCanada: THE BEADS ARE SLID UP THE CORE THREAD AS YOU MAKE THE FIRST RING OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. ThreadsCanada: THE LARGE BASE RING IS MADE FIRST Smeullie: i did it you can see it here AKTATTER: WELL SHOULD WE LOOK AT THE THISTLE DIAGRAM UPSIDE DOWN THEN? Smeullie: http://bengelblog.blogspot.com/index.html OnTheGo731: DOn't be nervous Rita we are all here to tell you if you do it wrong LOL ThreadsCanada: THE REST IS DONE IN ROWS ThreadsCanada: THE FIRST ROW IS A LITTLE TRICKY ThreadsCanada: YOU JOIN THE FIRST RING TO THE THREAD ON THE FIRST BEAD AKTATTER: OK NOW WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? AKTATTER: THE BEAD IS SITTING ON THE PICOT AKTATTER: THE THREAD GOES THRU THE BEAD OnTheGo731: so you are actually working int he round for the first row no turning rw or anythig correct? ThreadsCanada: YOU WILL HAVE A BARE THREAD OVER HALF THE BEAD BECAUSE IT IS ADDED AT THE SHUTTLE THREAD AKTATTER: AND WE JOIN TO ONE SIDE OF THE BEAD? Smeullie: no the bead is on the shuttle thread AKTATTER: OK THE BEAD IN ON THE SHUTTLE THREAD AKTATTER: AND THE RING THREAD SHOWS OVER IT AKTATTER: SO WE JOIN TO THE BARE THREAD SHOWING ONTOP OF THE BEAD? AKTATTER: HAVE i GOTTHAT RIGHT NOW? ThreadsCanada: YES AKTATTER: WHEW! AKTATTER: OK WHAT'S NEXT? OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. OnTheGo731: wait ThreadsCanada: THE NEXT JOIN IS OVER THE 2DS BETWEEN THE BEADS ThreadsCanada: THE THIRD ONE IS ON THE BARE THREAD AGAIN OnTheGo731: I do not see a bare thread my thread goes through the bead since I loaded beads ontlt he shuttl;e\ AKTATTER: ROESJE THE CAT IS CUTE RIET Smeullie: isn't he AKTATTER: WE NEED TO MAKE A NOTE RITA AKTATTER: LOAD THE BEADS ONTO THE SHUTTLE BUT DO NOT BRING INTO THE RING LOOP YET AKTATTER: JUST MOVE THEM FROM THE SHUTTLE THREAD UP INTO PLACE ThreadsCanada: THAT'S RIGHT AKTATTER: IS THAT RIGHT? AKTATTER: OK Smeullie: When you read the pattern it doesn't say put beads in the loop on your lefthand Smeullie: that is how i found out AKTATTER: WELL THE SECOND RING INDICATED ONE BEAD ON THE RING THREAD ThreadsCanada: WHEN DOING THE NIGNONETTE RINGS YOU WILL NEED TO BRING THE BEAD INTO THE LOOM BEFORE STARTING THOSE RINGS AKTATTER: GOOD NOTE OnTheGo731: \inside the loom hand would be ready to go on without addig after right Smeullie: the pattern sais that OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. ThreadsCanada: YES JEANNIE THAT TattingWally: I'm a little lost... SO the beads are bring from the shuttle into possition but not in the hand loop, right? AKTATTER: FOR RING 1 YES ThreadsCanada: YES WALLY ONLY FOR THE FIRST BIG RING TattingWally: And which one is that? AKTATTER: RING 2 HAS ONE BEAD ON THE RING THREAD Smeullie: the one you start with wally ThreadsCanada: THE STARTING RING IS THE LARGE ONE AT THE BASE TattingWally: ah, okay. OnTheGo731: ok still lost ThreadsCanada: ALL THE SMALL MIGNONETTE RINGS WILL NEED A BEAD PLACED INSIDE THE LOOM BEFORE STARTING THOSE RINGS OnTheGo731: the first big ring you do not put the beads into your circle fot the ring AKTATTER: OK RITA LET'S STOP AND RECAP THE PATTERN ThreadsCanada: OK AKTATTER: THE LARGE BASE RING HAS NO BEADS ONTHE RING THREAD ThreadsCanada: RIGHT AKTATTER: YOU MOVE 3 BEADS UP FROM THE SHUTTLE THREAD OnTheGo731: are they on te shuttle then ThreadsCanada: YES AKTATTER: IT HAS 2 FREESTANDING PICOTS AKTATTER: THEN IT IS CLOSED AKTATTER: LEAVE A SPACE ThreadsCanada: YES BEADS ARE ON THE SHUTTLE AKTATTER: THEN BEGIN THE NEXT NEXT SECTION AKTATTER: IT IS ALSO NUMBERED RING 1 ON THE PATTERN AKTATTER: BUT IT IS ASET OF RING 1 AND RING 2 REPEATS OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. AKTATTER: SO THE NEW RING 1 AKTATTER: MUST HAVE 1 BEAD BROUGHT ON TO THE RING THREAD ThreadsCanada: THAT'S RIGHT AK - I GUESS I NEED TO CHANG THAT TOO AKTATTER: NOW MY QUESTION ThreadsCanada: YES BRING BEAD ON RING THREAD AKTATTER: WHEN THIS RING SSAYS SBU DOES IT REFERE TO A NEW BEAD OR THE ONE ONTHE RING THREAD? ThreadsCanada: THE BEAD ON THE RING AKTATTER: WB RIET AKTATTER: OK LET;S MAKE A NOTE OF THAT AKTATTER: CLOSE UP THAT RING AND GO TO THE SECOND RING OF THE SET AKTATTER: THIS ONE ALSO NEEDS A BEAD ON THE RING THREAD AKTATTER: AND TEH SBU REFERS TO THE BEAD ON THE RING THREAD AGAIN? lingram222: .... ThreadsCanada: AFTER THE MAIN BASE RING THE REST OF THE BODY IS ALL MIGNINETTE RINGS AKTATTER: HANG IN THERE AKTATTER: OK Smeullie: yes allthe rings after the first are the same OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. AKTATTER: SO INTHE SET WE DO RING 1 RING2 RING 1 RING 2 AND END WITH RING 1 AND THAT FINISHES THE FIRSR ROW? AKTATTER: WB RIET AKTATTER: RING 3 BEGINS THE NEXT ROW?? ThreadsCanada: YES OnTheGo731: the second ring is just attahced as if there were a picot betwen teh two ds correct AKTATTER: OK WHAT IS DIFFERENT ABOUT RING 3? AKTATTER: GOOD POINT JEANNE ThreadsCanada: THE FIRST ROW - WILL HAVE 5 RINGS AKTATTER: AND 4 LENGTHS OF BARE THREAD BETWEEN THEM AKTATTER: SO THAT IS HOW WE GET 8 RINGS ON THE NEXXT ROW OF MIGNONETTE AKTATTER: OK i'M GETTING THE HANG OFIT NOW! OnTheGo731: me too OnTheGo731: ]just got essed up on the first big ring and the 1st row ring AKTATTER: OK THEN THE NEXT ROW IS REDUCED TO 7 RINGS AKTATTER: THE FOLLOWING ROW HAS 6 RINGS AKTATTER: AND THEN WE ARE BACK TO 5 RINGS OF MIGNONETTE ThreadsCanada: THE ONLY DIFFERENCE IS THE PLACE YOU JOIN ON THE BASE ROW IS DIFFERENT THAN THE REST OF THE ROWS OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. AKTATTER: OK WHAT HAPPENS WHEN WE GET TO THE EDGE RITA? AKTATTER: rIET, YOU MUST BE SLEEPY, YOU KEEP FALLING OFF THE CHAIR! OnTheGo731: LOL AKTATTER: :) ThreadsCanada: DO YOU MEAN THE TOP Smeullie: no i am drinking port lingram222: poor Riet. AKTATTER: YES AFTER THE LAST ROW OF MIGNONETTE WHAT HAPPENS? AKTATTER: BTW FOR MORE DETAILS ON MIGNONETTE STITCH: AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/mignon/mignonette.html ThreadsCanada: THAT'S WHERE YOU JOIN THE PURPLE THREAD AND START THE SPLIT RINGS AND SET THE FLOWER OnTheGo731: I like Mignonette stitch goes so fast AKTATTER: http:/www.geocities.com/Heartland/5082/TatOnline/spring_instruction.htm AKTATTER: AH SPLIT RINGS NEXT AKTATTER: anne orr split ring http://www.georgiaseitz.com/ioli/2005/handouts/page2_files AKTATTER: Splitrings2 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/splitring.html ThreadsCanada: WHEN JOINING THE PURPLE LEAVE ABOUT 1 1/2 INCH END WHICH WILL BECOME PART OF THE FLOWER AKTATTER: WHAT ABOUT ADDING THAT PURPLE THREAD? ThreadsCanada: NO ENDS TO TIE IN AKTATTER: OHO! OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. TattingWally: I have another question: the 1st round is with R 1&2, the 2nd round R3 and the rest of the rounds R4? AKTATTER: GREAT THINKING ELIMINATING AN END TO HIDE AKTATTER: WB RIET ThreadsCanada: EVERYTHING IS WORKED IN ROWS WALLY ThreadsCanada: NOT ROUNDS Smeullie: I like tatters who do that eliminating an end TattingWally: ok, I meant rows AKTATTER: RING 4 MAKES THE ROWS WITH 7, 6 AND THE LAST SET OF 5 MIGNONETTE RINGS AKTATTER: ME TOO RIET! ThreadsCanada: RING 1 & 2 ARE USED ACCROSS THE FIRST ROW AND RING 3 IS WORKED FOR THE REST OF THE BODY AKTATTER: I'LL BET WE SHOULD USE A PICOT GAUGE TO MEASURE THOSE 2" PURPLE THREAD PICOTS ON THE SPLIT RINGS OnTheGo731: Credit cards work great for those picote Smeullie: or use a pair off siccors at the end AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/shamrock.html ThreadsCanada: WHEN YOU ARE DOING THE TOP SPLIT RINGS MAKE SURE THE PICOTS ARE LONG ENOUGH AND YES A GAUGE IS BEST AKTATTER: PICOT GAUGES BASICS AKTATTER: ALL GOOD IDEAS AKTATTER: NOW RITA AKTATTER: HOW INTHE WORLD DO WE GET DOWN THE SIDE OF THIS THISTLE OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. ThreadsCanada: MAKE SURE THE PICOTS ARE LONG ENOUGH AS TRIMMING IS NEEDED LATER AND YOU DON'T WANT TO RUN TOO SHORT AKTATTER: OK ThreadsCanada: DOWN THE SIDE SIMPLY CONTINUES CARRYING THE PURPLE AND PICKING UP THE BARE THREADS WORKING A CHAIN AS YOU GO ThreadsCanada: WHEN YOU GET TO THE BOTTOM CONTINUE AND MAKE THE STEM AKTATTER: ARE YOU ENCAPSULATING THE BARE THREADS? OnTheGo731: the doubled core thread is used witht he bare threads making 3 encapsutled threads ThreadsCanada: AT THE BOTTOM OF THE STEM SLIDE IN THE LAST 3 BEADS LEFT ON YOUR SHUTTLE AND CONTINUE UP THE OTHER SIDE ThreadsCanada: YES YOUR ARE ENCAPSULATING THE BARE THREADS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/encap/encap.html ThreadsCanada: ALL THESE EXTRA THREADS MAKE A NICE FIRM EDGE FOR THE PIN AKTATTER: SO WE ARE WRAPPING THE BARE THREAD AND THE PURPLE TAIL COVERING IT WITH GREEN DS OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. Smeullie: Question why the first half of the dubble stich ? I did the second is that ok AKTATTER: OH RIET POOR SOUL! HANG IN THERE ThreadsCanada: YES AKTATTER: EACH HALF STITCH WOULD WORK BUT THEY GIVE A SLIGHTLY DIFFERENT LOOK AKTATTER: JK http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/jk/jk.html ThreadsCanada: YOU CAN DO IT EITHER WAY RIET AKTATTER: THAT IS THE NATURE OF THE JK AKTATTER: OK DOWN ONE SIDE AKTATTER: DO THE STEM WITH THE 3 BEADS AKTATTER: THEN BACK UP THEOTHER SIDE OnTheGo731: Is the stem also worked over the coubled over purple thread AKTATTER: AND END AT THE EDGE OF THE PURPLE PICOTS Smeullie: i had problems with the first half becuse the spiral didn't work as i would ThreadsCanada: THAT'S RIGHT ThreadsCanada: THE SECOND HALF WORKS JUST AS WELL AKTATTER: AND HOW DO WE SAFELY FRAY THE PURPLE PICOTS TO FLUFF THEM UP? ThreadsCanada: SO IF YOU HAVE PROBLEMS WITH THE FIRST HALF WORKING THE SECOND HALF IS FINE TattingWally: I don't understand the stem. Where do I make the joins? ThreadsCanada: BEFORE YOU ATTEMPT TO FRAY THE PICOTS MAKE SURE YOU PULL THEM REALLY TIGHT OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. ThreadsCanada: CUT THE TOPS AND I USUALLY START WITH A PIN TO SEPARATE THE THREADS FIRST AKTATTER: THE STEM TWISTS BACK ONITSELF LIKE IVY TWINING ThreadsCanada: THEN YOU CAN USE AN EMERY BOARD TO BRUSH THE THREADS UNTIL YOU LIKE THE LOOK AKTATTER: AH EMERY BOARD OK Smeullie: emery board AKTATTER: GOT IT WALLY? AKTATTER: THE FILE TO CARE FO RYOUR FINGERNAILS TattingWally: not yet... AKTATTER: MAKE A PIECE OF CHAIN AKTATTER: BRING IN THE 3 BEADS AKTATTER: MAKE MORE CHAIN AKTATTER: BUT DO IT WITH ONE HALF STITCH TattingWally: so I make the 25 and the JKChain wrap it around the normal chain? lingram222: Rita, can this thistle pattern be needletatted??? AKTATTER: THIS FORCES THE CHAIN TO TWIST AKTATTER: REACH OVER AND JOIN ANYWHERE ON THE CHAIN ThreadsCanada: YES AKTATTER: TAT MORE TWISTY CHAIN lingram222: o.k., thank you. AKTATTER: REPEAT TattingWally: now I got it. OnTheGo731: Wally the stem continues from the side you attach to the free picot make the stenm and reatach to the other free picot from the first main ring OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. ThreadsCanada: THATS RIGHT JEANNIE AKTATTER: WELL THIS IS A FASCINATING PATTERN OnTheGo731: Great !!!!~ I think I got tit AKTATTER: i THINK THIS METHOD OF MIGNONETTE OnTheGo731: it LOL AKTATTER: WOULD ALSO MAKE A GREAT BASKET SHAPE TattingWally: does thistle comes only in purple? or are there other colors? AKTATTER: WITH THE STEM BEING A HNDLE INSTEAD OnTheGo731: cute I dea AK AKTATTER: I ONLY KNOW THE PURPLE ONE WALLY Smeullie: It just gave it the look as the real floweer has OnTheGo731: purple is all I have seen ThreadsCanada: THISTLES COME IN PINK AND YELLOW ALSO VERY PALE GREEN THAT I KNOW OF TattingWally: cool! OnTheGo731: they are a beautiful weed whick I do not like except forthe looks of it AKTATTER: WOW THAT' SGREAT A WIDE VARIETY AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR RITA? AKTATTER: LET'S HAVE A ROUND OF APPLAUSE FOR OUR GUEST TEACHER AKTATTER: HOORAH!!!!!!!!! OnTheGo731: Rita the thistle is beautiful thanks for sharing and you did a great job LadyJudith: thanks for the pattern Rita AKTATTER: YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THE PATTERN AND TEH CLASS RIAT ThreadsCanada: I USUALLY LEAVE A FEW IN MY GARDEN EVERY YEAR Smeullie: hio hio hio hoera!!!!! lingram222: clap clap clap OnTheGo731: Clap Clap CLap AJtat: !!!!!!!! Quiltinbe: Thanks Rita it is beautiful. AKTATTER: ANY LAST COMMENTS RITA? Lady Elhasa: thanks rita for this wonderfull pattern lingram222: thank you, Rita. AKTATTER: THIS LESSON REPEATES MON 8:30pm et AKTATTER: THERE WILL BE NO 3 PM et MONDAY CLASS MOM HAS DR'S APPT. TattingWally: thanks for the pattern. I'll have to work on this one! :-) AKTATTER: ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? OnlineHost: Smeullie has entered the room. ThreadsCanada: I WILL MAKE SOME ADJUSTMENTS ON THE PATTERN AND GIVE IT TO THE CLASS TO POST THE CORRECTIONS AKTATTER: YOU ARE BACK JUST IN TIME TO SAY GOOD NIGHT RIET AKTATTER: THANKS RITA OnTheGo731: One last commment MORE Patterns Rita the clss loves more patterns TattingWally: G... I'm not receiving any mail from the class AKTATTER: AND MANY THANKS TO ALL OF YOU FOR STOPPING BY ThreadsCanada: THANKS TO EVERYONE FOR BEING PATIENT WITH ME LadyJudith: i have a question for riet after the class is over AKTATTER: OH YES THE CLASS HAS A VORACIOUS APPETITE FOR PATTERNS AKTATTER: SUER THING LJ lingram222: we all have PAS..LoL AKTATTER: OK THEN THANKS AGAIN RITA AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT ALL AND HAPPY TATTING