Session Start: Mon Oct 09 18:05:06 2006 *** Now talking in #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter has left #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter913 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter913 is now known as soultatter *** Tatter991 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter079 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter991 is now known as maremi22 *** Tatter079 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** maremi22 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter is now known as Sandriver Hello Georgia and soultatter.. 12hi, and hola! sandriver and georgia! Hola soultatter qwhere are you from? 12argentina, bs as *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Yo soy de Peru *** Tatter is now known as Sherong 12carmen renne, im claudia 12how are you? Hola Claudia ... no te reconoc'i por el nick hello all http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/ioli2007angel.html *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Hello Sherong ... hello Lynn is that you? I just figured out how o make the font larger Hi, yes it is me. at the bottom of this window is a narrow one to enter text ok Lynn I want you to type this on a new line *** AKTATTER is now known as yourname *** yourname is now known as AKTATTER * /nick: insufficient parameters darn did that not work? ok type the part in quotes "/nick lacenlynn" without the quotes *** Tatter is now known as lacenlynn good job! now open another window in IE and go print off the lesson http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/ioli2007angel.html helo sheron claudia carmen 12hi georgia 12hi all! Ok I feel dumb, what is IE Hello Georgia! Internet explorer :) 12open a new window got it Lynn? you can have more than one internet window open ok, I got it. Sheron I have had so much trouble with corrupted files that I am sending the discs to Ron to upload from there Set the site to allow popups, then click (or maybe double click) on the URL and it will open I am finding out about another way tosend files, FTP I am sending the files to the AntiquePatternLibrary also do you hve a website or ftp program? Did you get the message about Prof Griswold? sorry to hear about the Prof's passing No but Julia said she could talk me through it. Will have to see what is involved. *** lacenlynn has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) Ron recommended SmartFTP to me *** Tatter has joined #tatchat wb tatter Where do you get it? free download for educational purposes Hi, cyberspace, printer doen;t like me tonight This is an educational purpose isn't it? http://www.smartftp.com/download/ yes definitely well printer are notoriously finicky *** Tatter is now known as lacenlynn Judith will tell me where to upload the files to. great *** Sandriver has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** lacenlynn has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat don't forget your seatbelts {{{{click}}}} *** Tatter is now known as lacenlynn Seems like we need to pass the duct tape lol claudia is this your first time here? 12no, the second time I am glad that you found your way back :) 12thanks!! *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 12how can i put the smiley? the colon key : Hope plus the parens key ) :) HOpie! 12:) am I here?? 12ok!! how do I change nick to? type the words in quote but without the quotes "/nick Hope" *** Tatter is now known as Hope there you are! or just type your name lower right under "chabge nick to" and hit enter wooohoo!! hi love... company gone?? yep Big George left today we drove him over the Indy had a nice drive through the autumn leaves on the way home 12lovely!! HOW LONG was he there?? 2 weeks is there corn now?? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat every day there is less all the beans harvested today corn starts soon welcome tatter so there is an empty field?? type the words in quote but without the quotes "/nick Hope" *** Tatter is now known as Sandriver empty except for a flock of geese and 4 deer gleaning wb carmne ok open chat continues for 10 minutes *** Tatter has joined #tatchat poor rabbits.. no hidy from patch now *** Tatter is now known as tatcat14 Hi Ok, I am gonna go and reinstall my printer and print off that page, is there anything else I need to know or do? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 12hi hope, tatcat14 hi lol.. I can't match up the names!! but HI YALL I will talk southern like Erin.. :-) *** Tatter495 has joined #tatchat How big a flock?? *** Tatter863 has joined #tatchat of geese" *** Tatter495 is now known as essm HEY MARTHA!!! Hi that's all you need to do Lynn Hi Marta & Hopie is that you?? how I loved your palmettos HAT!! do you wear it or display it?? tntc Hope so many of them Martha welcome type the words in quote but without the quotes "/nick yourname" ok, then I will talk to you later. to change your name lynn I loaned the hat to the Palmettos for their state fair you still here? yes can you see the pattern on screen? yes then yo could just follow along from there and print later ok this is a short lesson and you might miss something good :) ok open chat continues 5 more min it is an awesome hat!!! any one written a good pattern bok recently, Martha? and you look adorable in it!! *** Tatter is now known as MargaritaE hello Margarita what kind of pattern book??? 12hola margarita! jumping up and down... Buenas noches the wonderful kind filled with critters like Martha wrote! Does knitting count? MORE CRITTERS??? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat No new books yet, a few patterns in progress *** Tatter is now known as Riet Hola Claudia Hi Riet Riet Riet Riet!!!!!! Hi Riet Hi everyone, Jon here riet!! LOVE YOU!!! Hola Margarita! Good evening all Hola Carmen Jon? wan faizonyusoff? *** Hope has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) to change your name This is my first time in an online class, so not too sure how to work with it. type the words in quote but without the quotes "/nick yourname" Maybe we need to add the velcro *** Tatter has joined #tatchat yes we seem to have air turbulence tongiht lol what is velcro? Yes, Jon is wanfaizonyusoff a seat belt Riet oooohhhhh *** Tatter is now known as Hope huan ying!!!! Jon from Malaysia riet it is so good to see you back inclass! it is almost time for class to start Joh- was the Wiggly star YOURS?? yes it is a long time ago let's begin by signing in please GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS USA AKTATTER@AOL.COM Hope love2tat@gmail.com Miami Fl Happy Tatter do you all know that i will bicome grandma in march 2007 Eva Shock Barclay MD OCT. 9, 2006 sheron goldin, columbia, sc, sherongb@yahoo..com CONGRATULATIONS RITE! Martha Ess Greensboro NC essm@bellsouth.net 12CLAUDIA, ARGENTINA, BS AS. CLOELO@GMAIL.COM OUR LESSON TONIGHT IS Lynn Weasenforth, Clarksburg, WV. Jon- is the Wiggly Star yours?? Carmen Renee, Peru, carlat476@gmail.com Riet Surtel-Smeulders Tilburg Holland Surtel-Smeulde@kpnplanet.nl http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/ioli2007angel.html oops lacenlynn@msn.com Margarita E. Colombía, maremi22@gmail.com THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TONIGHT THE PATTERN TONIGHT IS FROM THE thanks for having us!! 12YOU ARE WELCOME ORGANIZERS OF THE IOLI2007 CONVENTION IN TULSA OKLAHOMA USA *** Tatter863 is now known as Jon FOR THOSE OUTSIDE THE USA GOOD joN! THE IOLI *** Riet has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) IS THE INTERNATIONAL OLD LACERS, INC. AN INTERNATIONA GROUP OF LACEMAKERS THERE IS AN ANNUAL CONVENTION yes Hope, the Wiggly is mine THIS YEAR WAS MONTREAL CANADA 2007 IS OKLAHOMA USA AND 2008 IS ILLINOIS NEAR WHERE I LIVE! *** Tatter has joined #tatchat AT EACH CONVENTION THERE IS A GIFT BAG AND DECORATIONS FOR THE TABLES AND STUDENTS AND TEACHERS *** Tatter is now known as Riet THIS YEAR THE OKLAHOMA (ok) GROUP NEEDS HELP SO WE HAVE BEEN INVITED TO TAT UP THESE ANGEL WINGS AND SEND THEM IN 1. THE WINGS MUST BE WHITE 2. SIZE 20 SUGGESTED 3. I FORGOT THE PATTERN FOR THE ANGEL'S HALO PLEASE MAKE A NOTE R 12 P SEPARATED BY 2 PICOTS THIS IS A ROUND CENTER RING THAT MEANS YOU BEGIN THE RING IN THE MIDDLE OF A SET TAT 1 DS P 2 DS ETC. AND END WITH 1 DS HIDE THE ENDS THE OLD FASHIONED WAY 4. PLEASE SEND WINGS AND HALO ONLY TO THE OK FOLKS DEBBIE BEEVER 21731 N 4028 DRIVE BARTLESVILLE OK 12...separated by 2 picots o 2 ds? ds OOPS YEP SEPARATED BY 2 DS 12:) 74006 usa 5. TEH GROUP IS ALSO ASKING FOR TATTING TIPS AND TECHNIQUES 1-2-2-2-2-(TO 12 PICOTS) 1, close ring THEY ARE PREPARING A BOOKLET AND IF YOU SEND IN SOMETHING THEY CAN PUT IN THE BOOKLET YOUR NAME WILL APPEAR IN PRINT! THANKS SHERON 12thanks sherong NOW LETS LOOK AT THE PATTERN hugs Sheron!! IS ANYONE HERE TONIGHT A BRAND NEW TATTER? A little experience, self taught 12me too, like lacenlynn OK GREAT PLEASE LOOK AT THE FIRST DIAGRAM YOU SEE THE 4 GREEN RINGS I'm self-taught too, but i think i can follow this THEN SAMLLER RINGS IN BROWN AND CHAINS IN BLUE a lot of us started self taught THE SECOND DIAGRAM SHOWS YOU WHICH PART TO TAT FIRST RING 1 THEN YOU HAVE A CHOICE TO MAKE TRADITIONALLY YOU WOULD REVERSE WORK THAT MEANS TO MAKE THE TOP OF THE RING THE BOTTOM THAN BEGIN THE CHAIN IN BLUE JUST 3 DS sorry, how do i make the diagram appear? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/turningwork.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/ioli2007angel.html THIS IS THE LESSON JON OPEN IT IN ANOTHER WINDOW YOU CAN EITHER RW = REVERSE WORK AND TAT THE NEXT 3 DS FOR THE CHAIN IN REVERSE HALF STITCH ORDER THAT MEANS TAT THE SECOND HALF STITCH FIRST AND THE FIRST HALF STITCH LAST OR DO NOT REVERSE WORK AT ALL AND SIMPLY WRAP (NOT TAT) THOSE 3 DS ok, got it THAT IS DIRECT METHOD TATTING, WRAPPING THE THREAD IN THE MANNER OF DOING A SPLIT RING YOU CAN SEE A PICTURE OF WRAPPING AT GREAT JON! http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2003/encap/encap.html that would require 2 shuttles instead of 1 shuttle and ball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sing the picot length to shape the wings 04what are they going to do with those wings Ok, how do you hide threads the old fashioned way. Told you I am new.:) THEY ARE MAKING THE WINGS FOR THE ANGELS YOU CAN 1 WHIP STITCH TO THE BACK, 2 GLUE TO THE BACK, 04and than where are the angels going 3 THREAD ENDS ON A BLUNT TAPESTRY NEEDLE AND HIDE IN THE RING IT IS BEING GLUED ON AND WILL NOT SHOW goodies for guests TY THEY ARE FOR THE 2007 IOLI CONVENTION RITE RIET OK WITH CHAIN 8 IN BLUE YOU BEING THE OUTER ROUND YOU MIGHT WANT TO USE A PICOT GAUGE TO GIVE REGULARITY TOTHE PICOTS 04ok can they tell us how they make the tassels I mean the length and how manny wraps HERE ARE SOME PHOTOS TO SHOW HOW TO USE THE PICOT GAUGE YOU SEND ONLY THE HALO AND WINGS They will get the tassels and attach what we send THEY BOUGHT A HUGE LOT OF TASSELS AND WILL PUTIT TOGETHER THERE THAT MAKES IT CHEAPER TO MAIL IN AN ENVELOPE TOO THE SMALLER RINGS IN BROWN ATTACH TO THE LARGER RINGS THIS BRINGS UP THE THOUGHT ABOUT JOINS Might use a CD mailer and put between cardboard to keep flat TRADTIONALLY TATTERS HAVE USED THE UP JOIN BUT IF YOU WANT TO CREATE THE ALL FRONT/BACK SIDE LOOK 04just was wondering , to make some for my gasts after some for the IOLI TO THE WORK THEN YOU SHOULD USE THE DOWN JOIN all wite does it matter? I THINK THEY WOULD BE GREAT TREE ORNAMENTS TOO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/joins/103joins.html DOES IT MATTER? IT IS ALL A MATTER OF PREFERENCE BUT JUDGES AT COMPETITION NOW LOOK FOR THE FRONT/BACK SIDE LOOK TO THE WORK white dot on white wont show IF YOU ARE TATTING IN MORE THAN ONE COLOR THE USE OF THE DOWN JOIN HELPS TO ELIMINATE THAT SPOT OF WRONG COLOR WHICH SHOWS IN THE UP JOIN AND THE DOWN JOIN 05if it is a down join, the next st is the first half of the ds? 04but in white juges will see it too MAKES THE BARS ON THE PICOTS ON BOTH SIDES OF THE JOIN LOOK THE SAME tassel would need to be about twice the height of the wings. THAT TOO IS A MATTER OF CHOICE JON FOR ME THE JOIN IS JUST THAT AND I FOLLOW WITH A FULL DS 04thanks essm THE TASSELS THEY ARE USING ARE 3.5 " 12how long the halo´picot? THE LAST DIAGRAM i MADE MINE ABOUT 1/4" 04longer than in the wings as far as the picture shows THE LAST DIAGRAM GIVES THE DS COUNT BETWEEN PICOTS AND JOINS NOTE THAT THE SHOULDER AREA OF TEH WING HAS A CHAIN OF 9 DS NO PICOTS IF YOU ARE MAKING ONE OF THESE FOR YOURSELF AFTER STIFFENING THE WINGS TAKE 10" OF RIBBON AND PULL TROUGH THE WINGS ON EACH SIDE OF THE JOIN OF THE 9 DS CHAIN THE 9 DS CHAIN BTW JOINS TOT HE CENTER RINGS WITH A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html OK ANY QUESTIONS?? do we stiffen the wings for them or will they, and if we do what should we use. STIFFEN WINGS WITH STARCH, GLUE OR FABRIC STIFFENER elmers glue? I HOPE THAT EVERYONE WILL TRY AT LEAST ONE OF THESE TO HELP THE IOLI GROUP PUT SURE LYNNDILUTED A BIT WITH WATER with small tassels you can put tape on the thread before you trim the bottom so the thread doesn't shift around as you cut. It makes a neat look. I haven't tried it on tassels this big though BUT TACKY GLUE MIGHT BE BETTER IF YOU WANT TO MAKE YOUR OWN TASSELS ok, sorry so many ?s. THERE IS A PATTERN ALREADY POSTED FOR USE IN THE CLASS I'LL GET THE LINK I will use Brush on Sealers. I have a choice of Matte, Gloss and High Gloss HEY LYNN WE LIVE FOR THE QUESTIONS yes, I have been told the only stupid ones are the ones not asked http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/hheartmark.html AT THE BOTTOM OF THE HEART BOOKMARK ARE DIRECTIONS FOR TASSEL MAKING THAT;S RIGHT LYNN OK THIS IS ALL THAT I HAVE FOR TONIGHT ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS?? how soon are they needed SOONER IS BETTER good question1 04yesterday8-)) WE DONT WNT ANY LITTLE OLD LADIES BURNING THE MIDNIGHT OIL THE NIGHT BEFORE THE CONVENTION BECAUSE THEY ARE SHORT *** Tatter has joined #tatchat WELCOME TATTER how many are needed, should we make more than one? THE LINK FOR THE IOLI WEB SITE IS AT THE BOTTMOF THE ANGEL PAGE I HOPE YOU WILL GO CHECK IT OUT back (AAARG) THEY HAVE FREE PATTERNS POSTED TOO *** tatcat14 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) WB hi I AM SURE THAT MORE THAN ONE WOULD BE WELCOME BUT FOR AN ABOSLUTE COUNT PLEASE EMAIL DEBBIE *** Tatter is now known as tatcat14 HAPPYLACER@AOL.COM can I print this page after we are done so I can refer back to it? YES YOU ARE WELCOME TO PRINT OUT ANY AND AL LOF THE CLASS PATTERNS AND THIS LESSON'S LOG WILL BE POSTED ONLINE TOO THE LINK TO THE LOG IS ON THE 2006 LESSON INDEX PAGE has the international log work? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/2006index.html THIS ROOM IS SET UP TO MAKE A LOG FOR ME AUTOMATICALLY I have not been able to get the log I THINK IT MAKES ONE FOR ANYONE USINGMIRC YOU HAVE TO GO CLICK THE LINK 12the link of the 2 october, doesnt work oh ? let me look Well now I know it wasn;t just my puter giving me fits again Jon- could you email me please? love2tat@gmail.com lol mines possesd (joking) I get alot of "this page is unavailable" signs ok i see a typo 05sure Hope, later ok? 12we can save this log another way I'll fix it when I upload this page yup here to check aback tomorrow Thank You well i have a lot of ypoes i am afraid i am a rotten typist ok then many thanks for stopping by tonight it is good to see so many new faces and familar friends thank you... :-) Riet take care Ok, I will go play with the printer now. Gracias 04thank you and till next class good night all and may angel wings take flight! 05thanks to all, this is fun! good to be here tonight Thank You for class buenos noches zai jian ttyl It's only.... 24 hrs from Tulsa.... 12bye!! lol bye now Thank you Georgia! Session Close: Mon Oct 09 20:21:54 2006