Session Start: Mon Mar 27 13:58:20 2006 *** Now talking in #tatchat *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as nlibin Hello, G. hi nina I am checking to see if anyone needs help getting into class brb nina there is no one asking for help i am afraid it is just you and i today what do we do? well shall we just try again tonight? good ok then see you tonight 8:30PM ET see you at 8:30 bye for the recorfd today is March 27, 2006 *** nlibin has left #tatchat the lesson wil be http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/nlibingreeniris.html bye *** Disconnected Session Close: Mon Mar 27 14:11:39 2006 Session Start: Mon Mar 27 19:32:35 2006 *** Now talking in #tatchat 13Hi AK Hi Georgia *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 06hi Georgia! 12Hi Georgia hello all! *** Tatter is now known as Lori 13Made it and on time Hi Lori 13Hi Lori Hi Georgia! Hi, AK hi ya Carmen got your wish :) *** Lori is now known as LoriHey 12Georgis, meet Vickie, this is her first time *** Tatter has joined #tatchat hey Dorcas Sue you night owl *** LoriHey is now known as Lori 13Hey loriHey :-) *** Tatter is now known as nina 12Georgia: I tried Collingbornes today without luck, just take it down and I will give you a new copy at Palmettos Hey Sue! *** Tatter328 is now known as della welcome Vickie pull up a seat in the front Thank you Georgia *** della has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) Della how good to see you here also for the first time I think oh oh lost della *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 13who was della? Hi Nina, beautiful work ah there is nina *** nina is now known as nlibin Della new to class 13Hi Nina how are you sweetheart? Thanks Tatter you can change your name by typing /nick yourname 06hi Nina, all of those beads! wow! fine, thanks I'm going to go see if anyone needs help getting in brb 13good you weren't doing soo well last we spoke... hi everyone I'm new don't know what i'm doing 13don't worry neither does anyone else LOL *** Tatter269 has joined #tatchat 06that's exactly what I was thinking, Sue. LoL tatter type you name in the white space at bottom right and hit enter 13if you type /nich yourname it will put the name in for you *** Tatter269 is now known as alphaprimavera 13test 12confusion reigns supreme!! I was thinking not to worry, Sue will tell you what you need to know 13still me Phew! *** SueH is now known as yourname not a test! 12Nina, the pendant is beautiful! 13darn it did it on me /nick SueH not my name? 06rofl 13who am I anyway LOL 12You did just what you told her to do who are any of us really thanks, terry 13Mmm it is Nina and I love the Barrette on Palmettos *** Tatter688 has joined #tatchat 13but she puts her name... is theresa or her mom in class now?? 12Sue - just use the box lower right I came up as tatter instead of della what now? hey Paule I see you type /nick Della 13Ak now nown as Della Hey Georgia I see you too! 13darn I am still wrong /nick SueH 12Hi Paule evening gals 13test hello 688 *** Tatter is now known as della *** yourname is now known as SueH Allo Terry! Terrific pendant! 13HURRAY!!! and I thought I was going to have problems, at least I am still Donata *** Tatter688 is now known as Mm mm you made it!! 12Well all three of you glad to see you back to yourselves 13Hi MM from Aussi land? Be right back changing computers *** alphaprimavera has left #tatchat 06hi Mm *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Mm is now known as Mmno 13were making a right mess of who we are tonight... ROTFLOL 12As the newcommers can now see - don't worry, be happy and join in the fun (((L))) is it really you? 06leave a little room for rofl for me too, please... LoL *** Tatter352 has joined #tatchat 12You don't have to be in the state of confusion to be here but it helps 12Yes Sheron, it does *** Tatter945 has joined #tatchat lol who said that? I saw that sheron 13It's OK for you lot it 2.40 am here! *** Tatter997 has joined #tatchat if your wern't int he state of confusion when you came it you will be before you leave 12I started the Godiva chocolate around please take a piece and relax *** Tatter945 is now known as Mary 12It will all be over soon ok to change your name just type /nick yourname *** Mmno is now known as Mm 13OOO thank you Sheron ah my I can't ever eat Godiva chocolates again 13WHY? ak thanks sherong, best chocolate in the house *** Tatter568 has joined #tatchat I USED TO WORK AT THE ANCHORAGE INTERNAIONAL AIRPORT AND TRAVELRS *** Tatter has left #tatchat WOULD GIVE ME BOXES AND BOXES OF IT AS THANK YOU PRESENTOS can't see well tonoc typos 12At least I didn't put it on your chair this week, I remembered what happened last week (she sat on it) 13who are all these numbers??? CAN'T EAT ANOTHER BITE OF IT SINCE THEN AND IT SMELLAS AND LOOK SSO GOOD *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 13well you'll HAVE to send it all to me then :-) 12I can eat anything that doesn't eat me first DON'T APOLOGIZE FOR TYPOS MM , NOT HERE LOL Hello from Mary 06or bring some to Hector? 13Hi Mary HI Sue and everyone *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) OK TO CHANGE YOUR NAME JUST TYPE /NICK YOURNAME I'm with you Terry 12We'll have lots of chocolate at palmettos HMMMM 12Come get some *** Tatter has joined #tatchat typo's is my second language 13Wish I could got a ticket for me? LOL Hello everyone 06I'm bringing Lindt's dark chocolate truffles... SELL MORE ON EBAY SUE 12And I will have more public domain books to give Georgia HI YA 352 13hello 352 nick that didn't work LOL TO CHANG EYOUR NAME JUST TYPE /NICK YOURNAME 13nick nick who? *** Tatter is now known as alphaprimavera 12forgot the backslash 13Hi again Alpha TYPE /NICK YOURNAME I have Java User showing OK LETS GET THIS ROWDY GROUP SETTLED DOWN 13I use JAva 06I use Java too. you need some java sue at this hour of the night PLEASE SIGN IN 13LOL Allo again everyone 12Look lower, below that panel to the white box GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA 06Linda BArnes, Woodbridge, VA 12type your name there, below where it says change nick to *** Tatter352 has left #tatchat 12Terry McGuffin, Modesto,CA me@terrythetatter.com MARCH 27, 2006 Donata from North Carolina granma_j@bellsouth.net anita hobden, london ontario canada, ahobden@hotmail.com Mary Rust, MRust79224@aol.com, Portland, ORegon, USA Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, In (USA) Dntats4u@aol.com 13Sue Hanson London England drooling over the get togethers much more than chocolate OUR LESSON TONIGHTIS BY NINA LIBIN http://www.simplyspace.com/tatting Nina Libin nlibin@beanile.com, new york 12sheron goldin, sherongb@yahoo.com, columbia sc OOPS Lori Dunlap, Boiling Springs, SC, loridunlap@gmail.com Carmen - Lima - Peru carlat@viabcp.com http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/nlibingreeniris.html Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime@vl.videotron.ca Miriam Brwoon Waaterlloo, Ioway Linda Vanscoy, Westchester NY *** Tatter has joined #tatchat WELCOME ONE AND ALL TO THE LAST MEETING IN mARCH AND 13Bonjour Paule Vickie Wettstein- Sterling Colorado THE LAST MEETING UNTIL APRIL 10 Bonjour Sue WHEN THE RESULTS OF THE SPRING CHALLENGE WILL BE POSTED 12IOWAY? THEBEGINNING TATTING CLASSES WILL CONTINUE AS SCHEDULED Corn country! THERE WILL BE NO CLASS ON EASTER WEEKEND 12PsssT: We are supposed to ignore typos, they become contagious if we notice them THE OTHERS WEEKENDS I AM AT WORKSHOPS BUT 13I'm not looking THE ROOM IS OPEN 24/7/365 12ok AND YOU CAN USE IT FREELY great 13We could still all meet up at this time? YOU SURE CAN SUE I will if you will 13Getting to be habit forming... 12i'm in OK NINA HAS PREPARED A TERRIFIC PATTERN FOR me too I would like to US MANY THANKS NINA 06I"ll try.. 13Yea it's soo pretty FOR HELPING OUT AT THE LAST MINUTE 04ARE THERE QUESTIONS ABOUT TODAY'S PROJECT? yes THIS PATTERN IS FULL OF BEADS How do you make the 1st ring? 04GO AHEAD is there any tatting in it???? It looks like all beads, beautiful 04I'M LISTENING AND THEY ARE FASHIONED IN THE WAY TO GIVE A SPEICAL BLOCK LIKE EFFECT 04YES, DONATA, BUT NOT MUCH 13How many on each shuttle for the motif? I'm i supposed to be seeing something besides our writing in NINA WILL BE TYPING ONE HANDED AGAIN *** Tatter487 has joined #tatchat DELLA THIS IS THE LESSON LINK *** Tatter487 is now known as celticdreamweave http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/nlibingreeniris.html 04DONATA, PLEASE OPEN THE PATTERN Hello again everybody 04IT IS ALL THERE, THE LOL WE USUALLY PRINT OFF THE PATTERN AHEAD OF CLASS TO TRY OUT 04THREAD, AND NUMBER OF BEADS 13Hi Sherry :-) WELCOME SHERRY PLEASE SIGN IN Hi Sue 12Hi Sherry is there someone that doesn't know me LOL 13The revised bit doesn't give the numbers sorry... 04WHY DON'T WE DO THE SAME THING WE'VE DONE YESTERDAY Sherry Townsend Canandaigua, New ....celticdreamweave@yahoo.com 04GO THROUGH THE PATTERN STEP BY STEP\ 188 SEED BEADS How do you tell if you have the corrected pattern? 85-90 ON ONE THREAD 100-110 ON THE OTHER WOUND CTM Hi Terry Got it! 13Thanx Ak 04IF THERE IS INFORMATION ABOUT THE THREAD AND NUMBER OF BEADS, 04IT IS A CORRECTED PATTERN OK NINA LET'S DO IT THAT WAY I WOULD LIKE TO REMIND EVERYONE TO READ THE ABBREVIATIONS LIST 041) AND 2) CLEAR? IT IS IMPORTANT AS THERE ARE CHANGES FOR THE NORMAL THAT WE USE IN CLASS 13yep thnx Nina no FOR THE NEW TATTERS WE SHOULD SAY THAT THEBEADS ARE ON BOTH THREADS 04I AM TRYING TO FOLLOW THE SUGGESTED LIST OF TERMS AND YOU MOVE THEM INTO PLAY ACCORDING TO THE DIRECTIONS SEE RING 1 HAS 4 BEADS ON EACH THREAD Do we make the first ring with the shuttle with 90 or 110 beads? AND TEH 8 BEADS TOGETHER 04IT MEAND BEFORE STARTING R1 04YOU HAVE TO HAVE 8 BEADS ON THE LOOP 048 MORE BEADS 12but which shuttle should the beads have come from 04THOSE ON THE CORE THREAD 13Soo tatted one up one down like 04WILL COME FROM THE RIGHT HAND SHUTTLE 13I presume shuttle 1 the most beads? THEY ARE LIKE LITTLE BUILDING BLOCK LYING 4 BLOCKS/BEADS ON TOP OF FOUR BEADS/BLOCKS 04YOU SEE, SUE, IT IS CONFUSING 04A LOT OF PEOPLE GOT USED TO MY 04'UP' AND 'DOWN' BEADS 13I know Iam proofing for MArtha and some of the decissions... well... 13It's how I think it Nina 04NOW WE HAVE TO DEFINE THEM AS BEADS ON KNOTTING THREAD 04AND BEADS ON CORE THREAD and how does that relate to the up and down? 13This is OK as long as you don't switch shuttles!? 04ANYWAY, THE LIST OF SYMBOLS FOR THE PATTERN WILL HELP *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 04AFTER YOU TAT POSITIONS 1-2 4 BEADS ON THE KNOTTING THREAD = 4 UP BEADS 13Up is on the knotting thread and down is on the core? Isn't that it Nina? 12Well if you started with the wrong shuttle you can just do a SLT and there are the extra beads waiting. thanks AK 4 BEADS ON THE CORE THREAD = 4 DOWN BEADS 04MAKE CH3, PRETTY STRAIGHTFORWARD, ISN'T IT? RIGHT SHREON GOOD POINT 04YES, SUE, RIGHT AS ALWAYS, FOR THE NEW TATTERS SLT = SHOE LACE TRICK http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html 12Read your tatting. Will the beads be hanging down? They are from the shuttle, sitting up - from the core thread because that's what forms the stitches 04ATTENTION: 04POSITIONS 4 THROUGH 8 IS ONE LONG CHAIN 13I'd say the other way Sheron... Core is down beads 04WITH 5 RINGS THROWN OFF IT I'm getting confused THAT'S OK MARY THIS IS A NEW CONCEPT FOR US 12core of ring is from the shuttle. 13and the down beads 12stitches are from thread wrapped around your hand YOU SEE THE 4 BEADS ON THE KNOTTING THREAD WOULD HAVE BEEN 4 BEADS ON A PICOT EXCEPT THE FOUR BEADS ON TEH CORE THREAD KEEPS THE PICOT FROM BEING DRAWN UP 04CORE THREAD IS YOUR RIGHT HAND SHUTTLE, RIGHT? SO THE STRETCHED OUT PICOT BEADS SIT ON TOP OF THE CORE BEADS 13soo 4 up (picot) on knotting thread - is that it? 12your right about core thread, should have said knotting thread. Thanks for catching THAT'S T SUE 13Poor Nina after all these years to change... 12Yes Nina 04KNOTTING THREAD IS ON YOUR LEFT HAND 04SUE AND EVERYONE, I AM SO EAGER TO STANDARDIZE THE TERMS, HAVE TO GET ADJUSTED MYSELF 12Start with 8 beads on the thread you wrap around your hand and then you will be adding 8 beads from the shuttle. ME TOO NINA IT TAKES GETTING USED OT IT *** Tatter568 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) FOR THE NEW TATTERS 13I still think calling it the knotting thread for the hand is wrong... That used to be the core, the one that makes the knot the ball was the auxillary! THAT LJ IN CH 3 = LOCK JOIN http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/shtljoin.html 04YES, LJ IS A LOCK JOIN OR SHUTTLE JOIN 13Way back historically I mean... Now it's changed? does that mean something else if you are an old tatter G? 13Pensionable! LOL 12gotta run. ttfn *** Terry has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) WELL i ALWAYS CALLED IT AUX THREAD OR SH2 THREAD VS THE CORE THREAD OR FOUNDATION THREAD 13Nigfht Terry BUT SO MANY NAMES FOR THE SAME THING SO WE ARE TRYING TO STANDARDIZE 13Agreede AK 04POSITIONS 4, 5, 6, 7 HAVE A RING AND A CHAIN IN THEM 13All the books I have reasearched it is sooo 04PLEASE LOOK THROUGHT THE PATTERN *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Nina...I am going to miss you at Hector this year have to go now--will return this time next week It will seem weird without you bye Mary 04I AM GOING TO MISS EVERYONE IN HECTOR 13Night Mary OK mARY TRY THE BEGINNERS CLASS OR SEE YOU ON aPRIL 10TH 04JUST TO STIR YOUR INTEREST: bye now--see you in April, Georgia *** Mary has left #tatchat BYE mARY 04WALLY MADE THIS PENDANT IN ONE HOUR 13I hate to say this but I think we will have problems on this standard. The rest of the world don't know about it! WELL WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHOERE 13Wally tats soo fast! Wally is super duper fast! SHE IS SPEEDY 04IT IS TRUE, WE HAVE TO START SOMEWHERE 13Yes AK but why change concepts already set? but where will it all end???? *** Tatter397 has joined #tatchat I WOULD LIKE TO DRAW ATTENTION TO RING 6 WELCOME 397 04I DO NOT SPOTTED ANY CONCEPT CHANGING *** Tatter397 is now known as tatcat14 12Way down the road. But look at how far we have come in the past 10 years 13And why they don't use + for all joins and disingush them by +LJ etc why? what did ring 6 do to you G RING 6 SHOWS THREE PICOT SITUATIONS WITH BEADS Good night 13Nigh Sherry hope to see some of you at Hector 12nite shery BY ESHERRY *** celticdreamweave has left #tatchat 04IT IS SIMPLY LARGER THAN OTHERS RING 6 FIRST PICOT HAS 4 BEADS ON THE KNOTTING THREAD AND 4 ON THE CORE THREAD 04AND HELPS TO CREATE THE SHAPE SO IT STAYS STRECHED OUT AS WE DESCRIBED EARLIER 04I WANTED FROM THIS PENDANT *** Tatter997 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 135 up & 5 down at both sides and the Trilim at the point THE NEXT PICOT HAS 2 BEADS ON THE PICOT AND ONLY ONE BEAD ON THE CORE 04NO, SUE 12I need to go also. See you April 10 SO A TRIANGLUAR PICOT *** sherong has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 13missed that one sotty 13sorry! AND THE MIDDLE PICOT HASONLY BEADS ON THE KNOTTING THREAD THE PICOT ITSELF SO THEY DANGLE LIKE "NORMAL" 04TRILLIUM IS ATRIANGLE LOOKING DOWM IT IS A GOOD STUDY IN THIS TYPE OF BEADING 13yep agreed. sorry 04POINTED PICOT IS A TRIANGLE 13yep tiangle 13triangle OK TRILLIUM VS TRIANGLE GOT IT *** tatcat14 has quit IRC (Ping timeout) 04TRILLIUM PICOTS SHORTEN THE INNER LINE 13I think she got it... :-) 04AND MAKE THE OUTLI LONGERNE YES I SEE THAT IT DOES THAT ENHANCES THE CURVE SO TO SPEAK 04RIGHT, AK 13I'm thinking in tiny #15 beads for earrings 04CHANGING NUMBER OF BEADS ON THREADS HELPS TO DESIGN THE WANTED OUTLINE 13I think I understand your designs more from tonight than ever. Thank you Nina 04THAT IS WHAT I HOPE TO TALK ABOUT IN DESIGNING CLASS AT PALMETTO'S I 'VE BEEN SAVING THIS COPPER METALLIC EMBROIDERY THREAD I THINK THIS WOUL DBE A PERFECT DESIGN FOR IT 13Sharn't be there :-( 13OO with what beads AK? CREAM AND SOFT PEACH 04CAN'T WAIT TO SEE IT *** Tatter762 has joined #tatchat 13OOOO rich *** Tatter762 is now known as TatPat1 13Hi Pat WB PATSY