OnlineHost: Mm13131 has entered the room. Dntats4u: how do you do it? cfgtat: Want me to do it G? AKTATTER: up at the top it say AKTATTER: oh sure carolyn thansk cfgtat: sent it. AKTATTER: thanks Dorcas I don't know why it won't let me invite people anymore cfgtat: Hello Miriam! How's W'loo?? AKTATTER: hi ya MM cfgtat: Georgia, want me to invite anyone else? AKTATTER: if I get anymore IM's cfgtat: I don't seem to have a problem with that. AKTATTER: please try Tarstt again she got bumped cfgtat: ok Mm13131: Wating for the snow! cfgtat: wow! we had a gorgeous spring day here. I expect we'll get nailed with cold stuff later. Dntats4u: are you expecting snow? Mm13131: sis you have the thunder boomies a while ago, AK? Mm13131: did AKTATTER: still going on now mm but to the south of us a bit AKTATTER: Rich is watching the tornado watch warnings for me cfgtat: I just looked at the weather maps looks like a nice band of snow AKTATTER: snow? oh no!!! my daffodils are up Mm13131: Be SAFE! Dntats4u: I have daffodils up cfgtat: there looks like a wide area for the tornatod watch too. AKTATTER: I will mm will dive for cover if they get close AKTATTER: it was so warm here nearly 70 most of the day cfgtat: I sent another chat invite to tarstt but looks like she got bumped again. Mm13131: Telll Rich we are waiting for his git fiddle!! :-) AKTATTER: he too worn out to pick to night he was digging post holes AKTATTER: for bird feeders AKTATTER: ok it looks like it is about time to start AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Mm13131: Those I do enjoy too! AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS AKTATTER@AOL.COM cfgtat: Carolyn Groves mdtatter@yahoo.com Frostburg, Md. ginaBea1630: <<gina Butler in OKC www.ginabea.com AKTATTER: MARCH 12, 2006 Mm13131: Miriam Brown Waterloo, IA AKTATTER: TEH LESSON FOR TONIGHT IS Dntats4u: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN Dntats4u@aol.com OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. Von Evans: Yvonne Evans Redford Mi. vonmarie@mac.com Von Evans: I am new so bare with me AKTATTER: HOWEVER WE ARE CONTINUING THE DISCUSSION Mm13131: Gina so good to see you AKTATTER: OF ROLL TATTING AND ADDRESSING BLOCK TATTING ALSO ginaBea1630: hi! Miriam! OnlineHost: TarStt has entered the room. Von Evans: one sec AKTATTER: OH GREAT cfgtat: it worked this time!! TarStt: wooo hooo I'm here! AKTATTER: NOWIT WON'T LET ME SEND THE URLS TarStt: thanks Carolyn AKTATTER: WELCOME AKTATTER: Hees57 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/heesbk5edge7.pdf AKTATTER: ok AKTATTER: thanks everyone AKTATTER: for stoppin gby tonight TarStt: Tara Hamilton, Zebulon, NC tarstt@mindspring.com AKTATTER: the Sopranos season debut is at 9PM ET so setr your vcrs AKTATTER: lol Von Evans: ok back OnTheGo731: Jeanne Zukowski Lake Peekskill, NY AKTATTER: let's look at the edging AKTATTER: this is FROM THE BOOK #5 BY AKTATTER: MARIE ANTOINETTE HEES EDGING #7 AKTATTER: NO DATE ON HER BOOK BUT IT LOOKS LIKE 1917-ISH AKTATTER: ALTHOUGH THE ACTUAL TATTING OF THE PATTERN AKTATTER: SEEMS STRAIGHT FORWARD OnTheGo731: I like this edging very pretty AKTATTER: THE METHOD OF MAKING A DIAGRAM FOR IT AKTATTER: PRESENTED SOME OPTIONS AKTATTER: GREAT JEANNE AKTATTER: BTW Von Evans: the edging did look pretty AKTATTER: MEMé HA ALREADY DONE A SAMPL E OF IT IN COLOR AKTATTER: IN THE HOMEOWKR FILES AKTATTER: Homework http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/homeworkindex.html AKTATTER: i THINK IT IS THE SECOND ONE ON THE LIST AKTATTER: THE FIRST QUESTION IS SIMPLY WHERE TO START? OnlineHost: Mm13131 has entered the room. cfgtat: I'd start at the big center ring. AKTATTER: LET'S TRY STARTING WITH THE BIG RING AKTATTER: ME TOO CAROLYN IT IS r 7 - 7 AKTATTER: BTW AKTATTER: ON THE ORIGINAL PHOTOS I DISCOVERED AKTATTER: THAT THE DS COUNT AKTATTER: DID NOT ALWYS MATCH THE INSTRUCTIONS AKTATTER: SO THAT BIG RIND IS IN RED AKTATTER: THEN YOU CAN RW AND TAT THE GREEN CHAIN AKTATTER: OR DNRW AND WRAPPING THE DS ONTO THE CHAIN AKTATTER: AND THEN JOIN TO THE PICOT OF THE RING AKTATTER: YOU COULD MAKE A REGULAR JOIN TO IT AKTATTER: ORA SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN AKTATTER: OR TRY LILY 'S LHPJ AKTATTER: I FYOU HAD RW PREVIOUSLY THEN RW AGAIN AKTATTER: THE NEXT CHAIN SEGMENT IS 7 - 7 AKTATTER: THENYOU DO THE RING AND CHAIN REPEAT IN BLUE AKTATTER: CAN ANYONE TELL IF AKTATTER: THERE ARE JOINS ON THOSE 4 RINGS? AKTATTER: WELL I LEFT THEM OFF OnTheGo731: I don't think they are joined together but think I would ginaBea1630: I would guess there are AKTATTER: IT COULD JUST ME UNEVEN DS I AM SEEING AKTATTER: I AGREE THAT WHEN DOING IT NOW IT WOULD MAKE THE PTTERN AKTATTER: MUCH MORE STABLE IF THOSE RINGS WERE JOINED OnTheGo731: right AKTATTER: CLOSE TO THE TOP I THIN AKTATTER: K ginaBea1630: I think it has joins because you can see the back side of the double stitch where the joins are AKTATTER: THEN YOU COME OUT OF THE BLUE SEGMENT AKTATTER: AND YOU HAVE TO CROSS THE LINE OF THE TATTING AKTATTER: AT THE BASE OF THE RED RING AKTATTER: SO WHAT TO DO? AKTATTER: WELL I WAS THINKING AKTATTER: THAT WE SHOULD DO THE ALLIGATOR CAPTURE JOIN HERE AKTATTER: WHAT DO YOU THINK? ginaBea1630: ah! I must have missed that lesson : ) Von Evans: ok question here. I am a newbie what is an Alligator capture join? just wondering AKTATTER: WELL THAT IS WHERE YOU TAKE AKTATTER: ONE THREAD UNDER AND ONE THREAD OVER AKTATTER: THE WORK LIKE THE MOUTH AKTATTER: OF AN ALLIGATOR OPENING WIDE AKTATTER: THEN CLOSE THE MOUTH ON THE AKTATTER: OTHER SIDE AND MAKE THE NEXT HS OnTheGo731: looks to me like you can only do 2 repeats of this pattern AKTATTER: VERY TIGHT TO CINCH IT IN PLACE AKTATTER: WELL JEANN AKTATTER: AFTER WE DO THAT CAPTURE JOIN AKTATTER: WE ARE ABOVE THE RED RING AKTATTER: WE CAN THEN DO THAT SECOND SECTION OF GREEN CHAIN AKTATTER: ALSO JOINING AT THE PICOTUSED BEFORE AKTATTER: THEN CHAIN OUT AND THROW OFF THE RING BY ITSELD AKTATTER: CHAIN ON AND DO THE BIG RED RING AGAIN AKTATTER: THAT WAY cfgtat: is there a join anywhere along the chain-ring-chain on top? AKTATTER: YOU CAN KEEP GOING AKTATTER: I COULD NOT SEE A JOIN THERE AKTATTER: BUT ONE IS CERTAINLY NEEDED AKTATTER: PERHAPS THE PURPLE RING AKTATTER: CAN DO A SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN AKTATTER: DOWN TO WHERE THE 2 BLUE AKTATTER: CHAINS JOINS? cfgtat: That's what I was thinking. AKTATTER: SO IT ISNT AS STRAIGHT FORWARD AS IT LOOKED AKTATTER: AT FIRST AKTATTER: BTW AKTATTER: PLEASE NOTE THE REDUCED USE OF NUMBERS N THE DIGARM AKTATTER: DIAGRAM AKTATTER: YOU CAN ASSUME IF THERE IS BUT ONE NUMBER IN A RING AKTATTER: ORNEXT TO A CHAIN AKTATTER: THAT THE NUMBER OF DS AKTATTER: IS THE SAME BETWEEN EACH PICOT OR JOIN AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTINOS ON THIS EDGING? AKTATTER: OK THEN PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AKTATTER: AT THE NOTES ON ROLL TATTING cfgtat: I like this one. has some nice possibilities. AKTATTER: PROVIDED BY DALE POMEROY AKTATTER: THANKS CAROLYN BE SURE TO SEND PHOTOS FOR THE HOMEWORK FILES OnTheGo731: will have to try this edging very interesting AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/pomeroyrollnblocktat.jpg AKTATTER: THIS IS ALSO LISTED I NTHE HOMEWORK FILES AKTATTER: IT IS A LARGE FILE AKTATTER: AT THE BOTTOM YOU CAN SEE AKTATTER: A SAMPLE OF ROLL TATTED CHAINS AKTATTER: I KNOW THAT LAST WEEK WE WERE NOT AKTATTER: ALL THE IMPRESSED WITH ROLL TATTING AKTATTER: BUT THIS DOES HAVE A NICE LOOK TO IT AKTATTER: AND THE BLOCK WORK IS GOOD TOO AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO DALE FOR SHARING WITH THE CLASS OnTheGo731: I like the block tatting in that what part is roll tatting AKTATTER: IS ANYONE NEW TONIGHT? cfgtat: and it is fairly easy to do with the needle. AKTATTER: TEH CHAINS ARE ROLL TATTED OnTheGo731: ok AKTATTER: YES I CAN SEE THAT USING THE NEEDLE WOULD BE ADVANTAGEOUS HERE Von Evans: I am new this stuff is pretty but I am not sure if I could do it yet AKTATTER: WELL YVONNE THAT IS OK AKTATTER: JUST LET IT INSPIRE YOU AKTATTER: THE LINKS FOR THE CLASS LST WEEK AKTATTER: RollTathttp://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/rolltathow2.pdf AKTATTER: ADN IF YOU GO TO THE 2006 INDEX AKTATTER: YOU CAN READ THE LOGS ABOUT IT ALSO Von Evans: will have to do that. AKTATTER: I FYOU WANT PRACTICE ON BLOCK TATTING AKTATTER: www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2/blocktat/frost.html   OnTheGo731: it looks like it would be hard to keep smooth OnTheGo731: or is that not the idea AKTATTER: I'LL BET IT TAKES PRACTICE OnTheGo731: me too ginaBea1630: I suppose some threads would lend themselves better than others for roll tatting Mm13131: Von, if you make a mistake .............we all had to start!=-O AKTATTER: YES THAT IS PROBABLY SO GINA AKTATTER: DI DYOU ALL GET TO VISIT THE 2 NORWEGIAN SITE? Von Evans: I have made my share of mistakes the past week or so AKTATTER: LOL I REMEMBER THOSE DAYS Mm13131: Yes! AKTATTER: IT SEEMS LIKE YESTERDAY AKTATTER: I WAS SURPRISED TO BE TOLD THAT IT WAS OK TO USE AKTATTER: THOSE PATTERNS FROM THE DEFUNCT MGAZINE Von Evans: I dont consider my self new but after 20 plus yrs it takes time cfgtat: I must have missed those. AKTATTER: BUT sVERRE TOLD ME IT WAS PERMITTED cfgtat: which magazine? OnTheGo731: would be anything pre 1926 right OnTheGo731: or 1931 which is it AKTATTER: http://www.ebraathen.com/nuereller.htm AKTATTER: http://www.poppyfield.net/eva AKTATTER: I think the name is Eva AKTATTER: but it is obviously a modern magazine so I was shocked AKTATTER: pre 1931 Mm13131: page cannot be found:-( OnTheGo731: could you try that first one again AKTATTER: http://www.ebraathen.com/nupereller.html AKTATTER: nupereller = tatting in Norwegian AKTATTER: the Angel at Elizabeths site had a problem did you say Jeann? OnTheGo731: WOW AKTATTER: http://www.monroenews.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20060312/LIVING/103120019 OnTheGo731: no just needed a different spelling for nupereller Dntats4u: look at the ring before the left wing AKTATTER: did you all read about Mrs. Jean Ferguson 92? AKTATTER: ah dorcas you spotted it OnTheGo731: yes I did amazing lady Mm13131: http://www.ebraathen.com/nuereller.htm need aan L? Von Evans: wow pretty Von Evans: I read it that is cool OnTheGo731: m change the e to a p AKTATTER: yep it is defintely facing the wrong way AKTATTER: http://www.ebraathen.com/nupereller.html Mm13131: tx OnTheGo731: where is the angel AKTATTER: at the bottom of thepage AKTATTER: http://www.ebraathen.com/nupereller.html cfgtat: looks like the join was to the wrong picot. OnTheGo731: see it OnTheGo731: right cfgtat: or the ring is flipped down. OnTheGo731: I think the ring is flipped over for the picture AKTATTER: or a twisted picot OnTheGo731: the picot looks twisted OnTheGo731: ok I am slow LOL AKTATTER: any way I invited Elizabeth to join us, would be nice AKTATTER: ok that is all that I have for tonight AKTATTER: any general questions? ginaBea1630: thanks! Georgia and classmates! OnTheGo731: how is your weather doing now any new or closer reports Mm13131: Trey sends BLS hugs! Mm13131: niters all OnTheGo731: nite MM OnTheGo731: thanks for another great class AK AKTATTER: Tornado watch in progress up at Spring field IL and moving south and east Dntats4u: try to stay safe tonight, AK; it sounds like it is coming closer Von Evans: oh boy, Michigan cant be far behind AKTATTER: update right now sirens going off on tv OnTheGo731: maybe they will stay off of the ground cfgtat: thanks G! Goodnight all. AKTATTER: fast hard rain moving east OnTheGo731: just rain is ok AKTATTER: sirens up at springfield Von Evans: stay safe AKTATTER: winds dying down now he says OnTheGo731: that sgood AKTATTER: but a second storm AKTATTER: is on the way behind it AKTATTER: ok now you all be safe OnTheGo731: be safe and keep those storms in the air and not on the ground AKTATTER: goo d night happy tatting AKTATTER: :)