Session Start: Mon Feb 27 13:58:06 2006 *** Now talking in #tatchat hello all Hello Georgia Hello, AK Marian in the bottom of the window is a skinny narrow window type your name there and hit the enter button let's see if it works hey MJ Dorcas! *** Tatter is now known as Marian we aare doing bobbin lace tyring to trying Okè I hope its works just try success!!!! it works! I was ready to go to your house and get it fixed so glad you could join us all the way from the Netherlands Marian what a lovely treat! << just a baby lacer still but one day Hello Marian *** Tatter has joined #tatchat glad you could join us Marian It take's a long time en now its rihgt,hoera *** Tatter is now known as Susanne Hella Susanne from Denmark! Thank you dorcas Hi Susanne yep we must just be patient Yes it is me, hello Hello, Susanne Hello all any one been tatting today? seems like I have been typing all day not tattig I have., making an Easter basket I want to say hello to you all. the little one with the beads? no beads Yes I was tatting and almost forgettong class Marian you are in the tatting group of Reit? Easter patterns are always my favorite I have been tatting to day,I make bookmarks for anyone who want one,its a great succes reaady to make the eggs ready bring it to club okay If you main the group of Riet? yes thats right have to get the other project done first. Oh just got an email from Ben Fikkert hopehe can join us too That would be fun *** Tatter has joined #tatchat welcome Tatter type /nick yourname Yes I have thta email to,there was a member of our site she made de cat on a broomstick en let it move on the pc.very nice. Interesting tatting some easter tatting links: http://www.bellaonline.com/subjects/5891.asp http://www.geocities.com/emmacrew/tatting/ Tatter to change your name just type /nick yourname oh remember this one? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/ingeregg.html 12And the chicken? www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/tmcgegg.html oh yes let me look I ask Jolande of she send that cat to yuo,do you think that passible www.celtess.net/Tatting/Main.html http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/ingerchick.html that would be fun to see 12Inger does some awesome designs ok let's get started today PLEASE SIGN IN GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA Must she send it to your normal email adres FEB. 27, 2006 YES TO AKTATTER@AOL.COM PLEASE MaryJaneBrittingham,Santa Claus.In USA OUR LESSON FOR TODAY http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html AND 12Susanne aka Dantatter, Aarhus in Denmark Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html TATTER JUST YPE YOUR MESSAGE IN THE SKINNY WINDOW AT THE BOTTOM TODAY WE ARE PLEASED TO WELCOME DORCAS NEWKIRK WHO PREPARED THIS BASIC INTRO TO COPPER WIRE TATTING FOR THE CLASS THANKS DORCAS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK WOULD YOU LIKE TO TALK US THROUGH THE BASICS? it was fun where do you want me to start? *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) HOW TO PICK WIRE I use the Artistic Wire because it is flexible and pretty SO MANY COLORS I WAS SURPRISED I prefer size 34, but these ornaments worked better with 28 I used the "silver" wire, wire coated with silver then the color put on top, it makes it shiny SO IS 28 THICKER GAUGE THAN 34? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat OR THE OTHER WYA? much thicker WELCOME TATTER JUST TYPE /NICK YOURNAME OK SHINY IS ALWAYS GOOD FOR TREE ORNAMENTS The lesson kind of explains itself, I tatted a wire chain for the lenght I needed to go around a cookie cutter and then cut and tied. YES MAKING A BASIC CHAIN THE LENGTH NEEDED *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) THEN MOLD AROUND A FORM LIKE THOSE COOKIE CUTTERS AND FINISH OFF A SIMPLE BUT EFFECTIVE WAY TO TRY OUT COPPER WIRE TATTING Ok.I think its enough for one evening *** Tatter has joined #tatchat OK MARIAN SO GLAD YOU JOINED US NOW PLEASE COME AGAIN *** Tatter514 has joined #tatchat ONCE WE HAVE THE BASICS OF COPPER WIRE IN MIND THEN IT IS EASY TO GET INSPIRED JUST LOOK AT THE LITTLE ANGEL it goes slower than tatting with thread because you want to avoid kinks, or if you get them you need to take them out right then TATTED BY DIANNA STEVENS IT IS A PATTERN BY MONA HAHN SO NOT KNOTS IN THIS EITHER! WELCOME 514 *** Tatter004 has joined #tatchat TO CHANGE YOUR NAME JUST TYPE /NICK YOURNAME 12Hello *** Tatter004 is now known as JaneEb WELCOME JANE! Hi, Jane HELLO TATTER That was not finishd I want to say thta I go on holliday with my doughter her hasband en tree little kids to Oostenrijk in to the snow.So I come over 14 Days back. Thanks, Georgia - found the url!! 12my id is supposed to be newtat OH MARIAN HAVE A SAFE TRIP! I though it was later!!!!!!! OK TATTER TYPE /NICK NEWTAT 12this is Nita Schwenn Georgia 12LOL Jane WELCOME NITA! BRAND NEW MEMBER OF THE CLASS hello Jane 12Nick Newtat And this ,we have I meeting saterday in Rhenen met de frivolitè club(thats Tatting) Hi Nita, JAne here - late as usual!!!!!!!!1 12oh goodness where is the class Hi jane but you made it Hi everybody - mad Jane arrived to sit in the corner as usual!! 06Hi Jane and Nita I go for the third time and it is always very fanny and we learn from Riet new tatting things WELL TELL EVERYONE HI FOR US MARIAN AND INVITE THEM TO COME VISIT THE CLASS TOO rIET IS A WONDERFUL TEACHER AND A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR she does good work 06Is she going to the US this year also for Palmetto DORCAS HAS JUST TALKED US THRU THE BASICS OF CHOOSING WIRE FOR BEGINNING PROJECT I shel say that to the other members of the club.I see there is a tekst gone. YES RIET WILL BE AT PALMETTOS OK 06Well, she's not going as far away as I am, lol OK WE SHOULD HAEV A CONTEST TO SEE WHO COMES THE FARTHEST TO CLASS ONE DAY BUT IN CYBERSPACE I GUESS WE ARE ALL NEXT DOOR NEIGHBORS! 06I am going to Australia to meet tatting friends Hey, Georgia, is THAT Sue joining us? Bet she's fallen asleep!!!!!!! Too much time on her broomstick!! i EMAILED HER AGAIN! Good nihgt.Im going now. 06Bye Marian Bye Bye Must I do something or is it good so? JUST SAY GOOD NIGHT Sorry I missed out - I'll look out for the log. Just lost the plot!!! AND THEN CLOSE THE BOX MARIAN GLAD YOU CAME TO VISIT Nothing new there!! Bye to you all WELL THERE IS STILL PART TWO JANE Oh, part 2 - when? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html RIGHT NOW! THIS SECOND PAGE WAS SENT IN BY CAROLYN REGNIER *** Marian has left #tatchat OH.... Somebody send me a brain QUICK!!! ONCE WE HAVE THE BASICS THRE IS A LOT WE CAN DO LOL NOW JANE IN THE 2005 IOLI CONVENTION IN DENVER 06Sorry, we need our own Jane, lol CAROLYN TAUGHT THIS CLASS NONE TO SPARE HERE JANE CAROLYN WOUND THE WIRE ON A PLASTIC SHUTTLE THE SAMPLES SHE SHOWS US ARE MADE WITH SIZE 30-34 GAUGE WIRE Shame on you. Not sharing a brain with a poor old soul like me!! WELL LITTLE OL LADIES AS OLD AS I AM NEED ALLWE GOT LEFT! OK *** Tatter514 is now known as JIM 06You have a brain judged from your designs WITH PATIENCE AND MANIPULATION OF THE WIRE YOU ARE DO RINGS CHAINS PICOTS SPLIT RINGS EVENJOSEPHINE KNOTS 04I'm going RED writing!! WELL SAID SUSANNE! BUT AFTER THE TATTING IS DONE IT GETS MASHED DOWN GENTLY I THINK IT LOOKS JUST LIKE JEWELRY IN THESE THREE PHOTOS AND PATSY GOODMAN Mash with a hammer SENT IN A SAMPLE SHE MADE IN THE CLASS TOO http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/pgcopperwiretatcorsage.pdf and in the larger photo on the page you can see a wide variety of flowers leaves, hearts brooches butterflie *** Tatter is now known as newtat s and i think that there are a great many patterns from french beaded wire flowers that could be adapted as well *** Tatter has joined #tatchat any questions? newtat!! you did it!! welcome tatter to chang eyour name type /nick yourname ok no questions? this week three book reviews were posted *** Tatter has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 05i finally saw that white spot by reading your e mail, they should make it a nother color 05Can you use a different name than the one you signed up with?? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/fujishigetatlace.html you can use any name at all 05I wanted to be tattered, as I know I will be before this is over LOL http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/edisaxefrench.html and this one is a real jewel http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/pffrench.html lol hang in there nita *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter519 has joined #tatchat anyone have books to recommend? any new patterns spotted online? sorry I'm late...I forgot. welcome tatter and 519 is that sue and friend? *** Tatter519 is now known as Linda welcome linda 04My little bible is still Patti Duff's Mini Tats and boy wouldn't those work up well in the copper wire too I like that book too... esp that teddy bear in copper Susanne got me hooked on Lene Bjorn's books! 04BEAR in copper wire. That's a challenge I'm NOT going to take on!!!! 06;-D Linda Lene does great work 04One was enough!!!!!!!! 05oh I want to make that teddy bear, but know it is too challenging right now ;o) Susanne lol your bear was so cute jane 06That bear is so awesome 03Hi all joy in OZ and I've recently been looking thru Georgia's books. oh??@@!! 06Lots in those also 04That bear was an absolute PAIN - one in the butt towards the end!!! esp book 5 so many tatters has such creative pieces in it Love the star in copper wire!!! lol Guess I missed the bear? jane link us? 03Sorry I haven't been arouns much lately tatter type /nick yourname 05JaneEb, polly has a 6 week class at the rec center in april. I will probably go to that Please! you are always welcome any time 04Bear's here http://www.users.globalnet.co.uk/~nickeb/bear3D.htm thanks jane thank you Jane! That bear! He's soooo cute!!!! 04Great - six week class? You'll be able to teach us lot some new tricks after that! 05ha ha, it is one day a week on tuesday 06lol 03I have my tatting class here today so I am longing for Norma to arrive to see your remarks re her doily 04Linda - he's still a pain in the butt!! Well, on the design side. Pretty easy to tat from scratch, I guess!! 05She also has a one time class in needletatting in april on the 4th Joy? from downunder! pleas say hi to Norma for us 10in size #20 I might be able to tat him, but the faeries in #80...I love them but don't think so... 03YES thats me Hello everyone joy type: /nick joy 03I will say Hi to Norma from you all 10can you believe it's only alittle over a month until Hector, NY? *** JIM has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) wow oh no! i'm not ready yet *** Tatter is now known as joy but i got my green beer pin cushion done at las great joy1 you did it 10it's a short month in February! yep only one more day to go 03I had forgotten not been here for so long please invite all your class to visit us too 10I can hardly wait...then I get to actually meet Georgia! 05is this chat once a week? 04Hi Joy from Oz oh blush 10and some other online friends? I Hope. 10oh Hi Joy! should be lots of tatters there this year esp s it is international tatting day april 1 03I would love to try tatting with wire Hi Jane Linda and all 06Among them Tia and Ginny - oh envy, lol 10Ginny said 55 have registered already. super! 04STOP talking about tat days in USA!! Making me go GREEEEEEEN going to workshops is really an eye-opener 10I have a "wire tatting shuttle" I bought from Georgia and while ago and still haven't tried it. 04Green with jealousy. So wish I could get to Palmetto this year aaahhhh oh oh! give it a try those points are just loose enough to do well for wire 03Cant get my class to visit as it is this afternoon when you wil all be off chat ah well say hi then 06Jane, come to Australia with me then - roflol 10you all have Julie Pattersen classes and we missed those... :o( 10that's supposed to be a sad face... 04Ooooo, Susanne - sounds cool. Got to get Nick a new knee first!! 03Are there any books on tatting with wire??? btw there are new additions to the public domain page 06lol hmm can't think of one http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/publicindex.html 06Is a knee more important than a tatting trip to Aus, lmbo several for bobbin lacers tho 03Wire tatting shuttle???????any different from an ordinary shuttle??? well your knee can'tholda shuttle.... 06True, lol well plastic shuttles are recommended Joy but I made several with loose points just particularly for copperwire tatting none broke as far as I heard 10I'm still having problems with the Collingbourne file...I've emptied out my cache and everything. 03I have had the wire for ages but never tried well other have too so if you really want it I will burn a copy on dis for you just email well with dorcas' basic how to you can get started 10sure Georgia..thank you. *** Tatter has joined #tatchat welcome tatter 10sorry I missed the class, I apologize, Dorcas. Hi there! 03Where are Docas's basics???? this class repeats 8:30PM ET (New York time) tonight glad you're here now http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html and then inspiration from CArolyn 05where is the class?? 03Thanks Georgia http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html and one homework sample has already been posted http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/homeworkindex.html 05I thought there was a beginner class someplace this is the class but the beginners will be starting again in March first week MImi Dillmand and Anita Hobden leading you can see earlier work: 05oh ok when in March they are setting the time and date now 05ok http://www.georgiaseitz.com/newtat/newtatindex.html ok last callfor questions??? 06Isn't the wire hard on your fingers? 04Can I go for a peeeeee? no 06lol rofl boy that dorcas is strict! 04Yikes, Dorcas, that's not fair!! I meant the wire ok then many thanks to Dorcas and Carolyn for helping with the class today lol sure Dorcas 06Yes thanks welcome to the new tatters today 04That's even funnier. Thanks Dorcas - I'll have a try at wire tatting - on my 'to do' list now. and thanks to all the international tatters for stopping in today happy tatting all and goodnight! Session Close: Mon Feb 27 14:51:33 2006 Session Start: Mon Feb 27 19:34:51 2006 *** Now talking in #tatchat hi g hello all 13Joy in Assie land or SC? welcome Georgia Hi Georgia Paule did yo finally see the french books? 13Hi Donata you have us worried hi ga AlloG. Joy good to see you 13Hi AK hi again Sue Lori welcome Hi Georgia Sue you are up late? Yes Hi, AK Sue is in the pink I see 13Well the purple didn't show up Terry donata Anita good to see you al lhere Hush, she's eating cookies lol i am hopeing i can get the library to buy the french books here 13Hi Anita the owl lady? cant afford them myself but :) *** Clunymimi has joined #tatchat nope May we sing Happy Bday to you Georgia? 13sorry *** Anita is now known as AnitaH Hi Mimi good idea Paule Hi Terry, is that Terry McGuffin Terry? 13Yes it's her birthday already here! Yes Happy Day Georgia and don't forget the IOLI lending library and I think that Maple Leaf Tatters as a lending libray also by mail Hi Long time no see! See you in Spokane! 13Happy Birrrthday dear Georgia Hello Mimi! You bet oh how sweet Sue! thanks Hi Georgia, see you in Spokane too :) Happy Birthday, Georgia 13I wish Lynda i have to remember there are more anitas here lol I'm so looking forward to comeing to Spokane that is great news Mimi Happy Birthday Terry hope yo are brings that beautiful holiday tree again New boss doesn't know it yet but he's going to have to give me the day off thanks Pats Happy to you... train those new bosses right! or teach them to tat and bring along 13He better or set me onto him... it'll only cost him the air fare! One must start as one wants to continue on... *** Lori has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 13Lori Dunlap has left us? Hallo Sue, good to see you here. That cluny link wouldn't work for me :-( 13What cluny link? Mind slowing in me old age? anyone recognize this link? http://www.antiquepatternlibrary.org *** Tatter has joined #tatchat I'll send it back to you to remind you. It was BL I think? 13Yep it's your vintage site *** Tatter is now known as Mary Yes, that's where you can copy old books. have we seen it before in class? it just came in the mail hello Mary welcome 13Oh that one... sorry I'll see if I can find it again... I got to it via the IOLI site Helo all from rainy Portland 13Some seller they linked to Hi Mary, raining in Modesto,CA too 13OK I recently joined a Yahoo list but nearly all crocher but can live in hopes alrighty let's get down to tatting please sign in MIRIAM!! I DIDN'T SEE YOU LURKING HTERE :) joy in south carolina I joined a new tattng site and they already have one of my Easter egg patterns up Donata, North Carolina USA Mary Rust, MRust79224@aol.com Portland, Or Patsy A. Goodman, Chula Vista, CA, karpap@cox.net Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA that is so cool Terry Mimi Dillman, ntrop@ix.netcom.com Snohomish, WA USA in the rain... GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA I ask if we could sing Happy Bday! YOU MUST LINK US TERRY Terry me@terrythetatter.com, modesto, CA OK 13Just gone there OUR LESSON FOR TONIGHT 13Welcome to the Antique Pattern Library http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html AND Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime @vl.videotron.ca Miriam Brown Waterloo, IA http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html 13This ongoing project is an effort to scan needlework pattern books that are in the public domain, anita hobden, ahobden@hotmail.com, london ontario AH SHUCKS MIRIAM NO NEED FOR ALL THAT 13Sue Hanson sue.hanson@virgin.net SE London UK THAT SOUNDS LIKE AN OK SITE WE'LL HAVE TO CHECK IT OUT It aint the big 59 this time! Allo Anita H we are almost neighbors WELCOME TO THE CLASS INTRO TO COPPER WIRE TATTING ugh my kid just kicked her bed.... found out wood is hard lol DORCAS NEWKIRK HAS PREPARED THE FIRST LESSON FOR US ya not that far away alpha :) DORCAS WOULD YOULIKE TO TALK US THRU THE BASICS PREP? OK 13Looks OK Judith Combs is listed as one of the bods SOUNDS OK THEN SUR THANSK FOR CHECKING 13anytime I would rather tat with size 34, but these ornaments lost their shape with that so I used size 28. AND THE LOWER NUMBER GAUGE IS THE THICKER WIRE RIGHT? I tatted a chain the length I needed and shaped it around a cookie cutter and cut and tied. *** Tatter has joined #tatchat yes yes g WELCOME TATTER SIGN INPLEASE *** Tatter is now known as Lori 13Do you wear gloves or a finger stall? *** Clunymimi has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) Vaps , please! I don't use anything. oop Caps Just bare hands and shuttle 13Hi Lori Dunlop 13? wb lori Hey Sue! 13Hey sweetie hows yer doing? AND YOU WOUND TEH WIRE ONTO A PLASTIC SHUTTLE? Thanks - computer not cooperating :-( The first time I tried I had bandaids on all fingers and couldn't do anything, you don't need them Hi Lori. Do you do conventional chains? 13Clear you history & chache files WELL NOTHING LIKE BEING PREPARED THO lOL I wound my wire on my Susan Bates bobbin dorcas caps please so we can see you better iS THIS BETTER? Aero Shuttle is best, for me. thank you :) GREAT THANKS DORCAS 13SOmeone said bates bends the wire? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat Tx, D WELCOME TATTER PLEASE SIGN IN *** Tatter is now known as Kate HI YA KATE confused does the bates shuttle have a bobbin or no? YES BATES HAS BOTH METAL SHUTTLE WITH BOBBIN Kate Huttar, Texas, USA katelingo#huttar.net AND PLASTIC SHUTTLSE WITH POST 13ONly the metal one I was think blastic Susan Bates sorry.. 13platic a quick AK there LOL :) 13plastic would think the post one would bend the wire but other one should be ok Hi everyone Susan Bates also has a white, Aero style shuttle, but not as sturdy as the gray ones. 13yea forgot... catching brain drain from Jane OK DORCAS WE'RE ALL WOUND UP AND WE BEGIN WITH A TATTED CHAIN ARE YOU FINGER TATTING THE WIRE? TO MANIPULATE IT? i JUST TATTED A NORMAL CHAIN WITH DS OK 13flipping or wrapping? HMM THAT IS AGOOD QUESTION SUE? sOMETIMES THE 28 WOULDN'T FLIP AND i HAD TO MANUALLY MAKE IT FLIP BUT NORMALLY i FLIP THE WIRE 13TY WOULD WRAPPING BE BETTER FOR THE WIRE? 13yes because of the tensile thing of it IMHO I would think you could control the tension better wrapping it 13then the wire doesn't have to chage the knot? THIS WILL DEMAND EXPERIEMENTATION is there a trick to keeping it from kinking when you tat? YE ANITA THERE IS A TRICK BE GENTLE AND GO SLOW YOU MUST DEFINITELY HOLD YOUR TONGUE ON THE RIGHT SIDE LOL WHAT DO YOU DO, PATSY? lol that would be something my kids would help me with lol 13If wire kinks, get hold of each side of it and rorate it... BTW PATSY SEND IN HOMEWORK ALREADY 13it will undi the kink what if you are a lefty Georgia, tongue on left? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/homeworkindex.html OF COURSE! 13Yes Patsy's buquet is very pretty i FOUND IT BETTER TO TAKE A KINK OUT AS SOON AS i SAW IT Well, I use a shuttle and do the ds as usual then manipulate the wire to flip. SOUNDS GOOD THEN HOW DID YOU HANDLE THE ENDS DORCAS? 13Oh yes the tongue a neccessary accessory LOL *** Clunymimi has joined #tatchat Do all of you use 2 shuttles to make a chain? WB MIMI I had a hard time learning to manipulate that darn wire. LOL or chain and ball? i TIED AND SORT OF MASHED AND BENT THEM Sorry, unexpected reboot by Norton NEARLY ALWAYS ANYMORE PAULE IT ALLOWS YOU SO MUCH MORE FREEDOM TO BOOGALOO ALONGTHE WAY iF YOU TRY TO WORK THEM IN, IT MAKES A LARGE LUMP, AS LEAST FOR ME 13Boot up the.... butt> 13? nORTON JUST UPDATED ME TOO Now Sue :) SO WE MAKE OUR CHAIN 13BOOGALOO? THEN FORM IT AROUND THE COOKIE CUTTER? YES AND THEN SMASH THE WIRE DOWN GENTLY with a hammer that is such a great idea Dorcas WITH A HAMMER BOOGALOO IS LIKE DOING SOMETHING EXTRA WITH SH2 FLOATING RINGS ETC You can't pull the stitches tight, 13OOO frustration fixer! LOL 13never heard of that one before ANYTHING TO BEWARE OF i THINK IT LOOKS BETTER WITH THE STITCHES LOOSER adnd then what? after the hammer? WELL IF YOU HAD BEEN TO CLASS MORE OFTEN..... :) 13Scream - got yer! AFTER THE SMASHING THE ORNAMENT IS READY TO HANG One thing good. Is you can hammer away and no matter what, it looks good. LOL OK ANY MORE QUIESTIONS FOR DORCAS? yOU ARE FINISHED AFTER THE HAMMER 13Only recently would the machine let me :-( Why the hammer? 13Never realised was running with a very old Java 26';OOLGH IT FLATTENS THE WIRE, GIVING IT A BETTER APPEARANCE SORRY PATCH SAYS HELLO It also tempers the wire, making it harder. 13Yes plea, how long lengths at a time do you work with? so you hold the work sideways while hammering? Do you tie it somewhere? or just let it hang where it may? I FILL MY BOBBIN 13Parden? I LAY THE WIRE PROJECT DOWN FLAT AND HAMMER AWAY 13Hi Patch IF THE WIRE IS ON A BOBBIN WOULD THE LENGTH MATTER? Nice thing about wire, you don't have to hide ends. AND I BET THAT FLATTENING IT HELPS IT KEEP IT SHAPE ALSO You mean you hammer the WHOLE thing? 13One thing I learnt with BL is to wight the end with a bead, the wire springs and can get in the eye YES When you join, just twist two pieces together and hammer. how do you temper? 13just tie a big bead on end of chain WOULD JOINS BE NECESSARY? 13Stamp me feet Dona! I USED JOINS WHEN DOING OTHER WIRE PROJECTS When you run out of a piece of wire. OK DEPENDS ON THE PATTERN THEN donata the hammer would do that ty SOUNDS LIKE FUN HUH pAULE? ER you bet! SOUNDS LIKE FUN, EH PAULE? re bet! 13Yep I want to pla & with beads OK LET'S LOOK AT PAGE TWO NOW THIS CONTINUATION OF THE COPPER WIRE INTRO IS BY CAROLYN REGNIER THE TATTER WITH THE TATTOOED FINGER 13Thinking what kind of joins? i normally use 18ga. for the jewelry stuff i do.... this is more with the craft wire then right? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html I USED THE OLD JOIN That's right Anita - would be very difficult to flex as you need for tatting. WELL THE NEW CRAFT WIRE COMES IS TERRIFIC COLORS TO USE 13Old join? UP JOIN VS DOWN JOIN? TOES TO NOSE 13OK right TY OK LOOK AT THE THREE SAMPLES AT THE BOTTOM THERE YOU CAN SEE JOINS THE CONSTRUCTION LOOKS LIKE NORMAL TATTING 13They are cery regular in construction of the ds 13very THE FLOATING RINGS ON THE RIGHT SAMPLE LOOK PARTICUALY WELL ALL FLATTENED OUT LIKE THAT THESE SAMPLES ARE FROM THE IOLI 2005 CONVENTION IN DENVER TAUGHT BY CAROLYN REGNIER 13Do you know what guage wire please? SHE SAYS 30-34 THE SAMPLES ARE 32 GAUGE They are just gorgeous!! 13Patsy you were there? SHE WINDS THE WIRE ON AN AERO SHUTTLE 30-34 is also good for wire bobbin lace :) YOU CAN ALSO USE BOBBINS AS WE KNOW I was there, but these weren't done in my class. AND YOU CAN USE WOODEN ONES IF THE POINTS AT MADE LOOSELY think alot of craft stores have this gauge listed as "fun wire" brand also 13OK thks Didn't we wind you off some when you were here Sue? lots of colors 13No, we got side tracked... CAROLYN ALSO RECOMMENDS USING A BONE STILETTO Oops :-( TO AID IN MAKING THE JOINS SMOOTH NOTETHAT THE TREE SAMPLES SHOW 13How does she use the stiletto - to widden the picot? I THINK SHE ALSO STICKS SOMETHING THROUGH EACH PICOT TO MAKE THEM UNIFORM TRUE RINGS CHAINS PICOT FLOATING RINGS SPLIT RINGS AND EVEN JOSEPHINE KNOTS Carolyn makes bone Stiletto's out of old broken crochet hooks. WELL THAT WOULD BE A GOOD IDEA TO GAIN REGULARITY INTHE PICOTS They are nice and round Dorcas - how about knitting needle? BUT LOOK AT THE SAMPLE PHOTO ABOVE I DON'T SEE WHY NOT SEE ALL THE FLOWERS LEAVE HEARTS BUTTERFLIE BOUQUETS BROOCHES? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat I THINK THAT WE WOULD FIND A LOT OF TATTING PATTERNS SUITABLE FOR THIS 13Will have to talk to her I broke my favourite bone hook COPPER WIRE TATTING TECHNIQUE AND I THINK THAT ANOTHER SOUREC OF INSPIRATION WOULD BE FRENCH WIRED BEAD PATTERNS 13It screams beaded jewellery to me I HTINK IT LOOKS LIKE GREAT JEWELRY 13independant motifs would move like a mobile AND WE MENTIONED EARLIER THAT PATTI DUFF'S MINI MOTIFS BOOK WOULD BE GREAT SOURCE FOR SMALLER MOTIFS 13Darn wish I'd have got those paxks thay had at Palmettos The stilletos look like she just put the end in a pencil sharpener. 13Ooo yes Patti D's tree with beads for Xmas OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE USE OF COPPER WIRE IN TATTING? DOES ANYONE HAVE A LINK TO MARK'S WIRE ROSE? AND DON'T MISS DIANNA STEVENS LINK TO THE COPPER WIRE ANGEL 13What happens when it gets rained on - any verdigris? How thin of a wire will work? TH ANGEL IS A MONA HAHN PATTERN 13It's not there now... NO PROT4ECTING COATING THESE DAYS 13OK thks AK AH WELL I LOOKED AND LOOKED I REALLY LIKE 34; 36 GAVE ME FITS 13Mona angel... or that little one of Abby Hedgewald THIS WIRE REALLY FADES IF IT IS IN THE SUN FOR A LONG TIME I'll have to get some and try it. I love the look!!1 13Kust thought AK Roll tatting? dorcas 36 too small? 13If yu used the ball around the hand... HMM ROLL TATTING THAT BEARS LOOKING INTO FOR ME IT WANTS TO BREAK VERY EASILY roll tatting????? Mona Hahn Angel in wire: http://www.domesticarts.com/LaceClass/Classtat.html 13take your cat back - on my keyboard now LOL It's a fun litle pattern to do in wire. IN ROLL TATTING THE DS IS IGNORED do you spead butter and jam on that Sue? THE THREAD IS SIMPLY WOUND OR WRAPPED OVER AND AROUND TEH THREAD REPEATEDLY 13See Mary Konior Visual Tatting and the ole Priscilla 1 IT IS A FUNKY LOOK PATCH GETS SO JEALOUS DURING CLASS I HAD TO LOCK HIM OUT 13Normally the 1st & last a ds but would not be necesary in wire that doesnt come undone when you let it go? 13You are soo mean AK no wonder he's on my keyboard! MARY KONIOR, HMM SUE HOW IS THAT PROJECT COMING ALONG? RIGHT SUE what does it look like? I MEAN ABOUT THE 1/LAST DS ON TEH RING TO MAKE IT CLOSE PROPERLY 13Well I've got 9 cards and about 20 more in the post and several tatters have sent greetings via email 13So will make a card up & include the messages gotta run,bye spoiled kitty! cruel to animals, eh? *** Tatter947 has joined #tatchat *** terry has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 13For anyone that doesn't know Mary Konio is very ill brb 13I am collecting get well cards for her 13She's had a stroke but insists she is getting better 13in thread you need the first & last ds to stableise the wrap i don't find a photo on lin epaule but please email me and i will post one tomorrow ty sue 13anytime will have to try that.... never heard of it before 13visually it looks like a vert thing chain ok any other questions for Dorcas tonight ok AK anything about the lesson? 13a very thin chain there were 3 new book reviews posted this week 13any free bandaids? great job Dorcas thanks Great lesson! Thanks a very thin chain without "waistbands" THANK YOU 13better description thanks Mimi many thanks to dorcase and carolyN FOR PREPARING THIS LESSON AND SHARING THEIR WORK WITH US yes, thanks, Dorcas! Makes me want to try, too. AND THANKS PATSY FOR SENDING IN HOMEWORK TOO Thank you for the lesson. me too 13BIG thanks FLOOR IS OPEN FOR GENERAL DISCUSSION Thank you for the lesson and HB tomorrow! what's next Georgia? Now I want to learn more about Roll tatting. Thank you dorcas Me too Dorcas; some in my group will want to try too Happy Birthday, Georgia! thanks for the lesson!!! great ideas to try out :) 13Maru in Iowa rihgt? WELL LET'S DO THE ROLL TATTING I HAVE AN ANTIQUE PATTERN WE CAN USE I'LL SCAN IT UP TOMORROW THANKS KATE send early so we can study before class, OK? THANKS MIMI AND THANKS MIMI AND ANITA FOR TAKING ON THE BEGINNERS CLASS WILL DO DONATA 13Happy birthday to you we love you Georgia, oh yes we dooo :-) Talk you gals next week. Supper time for me. Night. Good night all, happy tatting, thanks G Yes G send early we are all so busy! NIGHT PATSY *** Donata has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** TatPat1 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) Happy b'day, Georgia--and many more!! Trey sends Hugs GOOD NIGHT, IT WAS FUN THANKS MM, MARY 13thank you Ak and all I do love it hre but talk a little too much.. GLAD YO UMADE IT DORCAS I SURE APPRECIATED YOUR HELP 13but whats new> Looking forward to roll tatting lesson. Bye! Happy birthday Georgia *** Lori has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) LOL YOU ARE ALWAYS FUN 13By lori love to you and all NIGHT LORI *** Dorcas has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) 13missed .. THANKS PAULE Is there an example of roll tatting that I can look at online? talk to you tomorrow Thank you google: roll tatting from tribbler I WIL POST ONE TOMORROW MARY AS I COULD NOT FIND OUT ONLINE http://www.tribbler.com/tatman/pictures.html find the cluny bookmark Top rings are roll-tatted 13Not that I remember but have you Mary K's Visual tatting BUT CAN YOU ACTUALLY SEE THEM? Dan points out the roll tatting (thankfully...) GREAT! It's in text on the photo when you click for the enlargement TATTER AND TATTER 947 THANKS FOR STOPPING BY IF YOU WANT TO SIGN IN JUST TYPE /NICK YOURNAME 13Not very easy to see ok have to go... hubby needs the computer for a bit... chat with you all later :) night *** AnitaH has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) ALRIGHT THEN MANY THANKS TO ALL AND HAPPY TATTING 13even enlarged it's inside *** Mm has quit IRC (Quit: ) GOOD NIGHT ALL! 13Have a lovely day tomorrow Session Close: Mon Feb 27 20:19:49 2006