LizAndrsn: Evening Georgia OnTheGo731: did you get my invite I was afraid we were in the wrong room AKTATTER: yes I was fiddling around with the log manager sorry AKTATTER: did you all see the not about the new pagea dded? OnTheGo731: HOw is your Mom cfgtat: oh no didn't see that. AKTATTER: CopperWireTat http://www.geor giaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html OnTheGo731: yes they aare beautiful AKTATTER: CopperWireTat2 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html AKTATTER: Mom has not fallen since they moved her to the new room OnTheGo731: that's good AKTATTER: but she had a misbobble on Fri she was just excited about AKTATTER: going out and cut some fingers in a door jam OnTheGo731: not good AKTATTER: tok her to lunch with some neighbors for catfish AKTATTER: and then to the DQ for ice cream AKTATTER: and thento get a perm AKTATTER: wore her out! OnTheGo731: full day for her LizAndrsn: Would'a worn me out too! AKTATTER: did wear me out! cfgtat: you sure kept her busy. OnTheGo731: Aren AKTATTER: try to make a big day of it esp on a good day for her OnTheGo731: Aren't you having a birthday in a couple of days AK AKTATTER: why yes! AKTATTER: kind of you to remember OnTheGo731: Happy BIrthday AKTATTER: thanks OnTheGo731: I knew it was right before mine LizAndrsn: Well well well - Happy Birthday early :) AKTATTER: but I'm sure not opening any packages or letter from Chile this year lol LizAndrsn: And to you too, Jeannie OnTheGo731: thank you AKTATTER: Happy Birtheday to you too Jeanne OnTheGo731: I'm going to be 60 and really excited about that don't know why cfgtat: happy b'day to both of you! LizAndrsn: Yikes! Is that still and issure G? AKTATTER: well it took until the 23rd I thingk to block all the addresses she was using OnTheGo731: greaawt just what you needed AKTATTER: got them last death threats sent to FBI Ron & the cyberpolice and yahoo AKTATTER: but nothing since then so I feel greatly relieved AKTATTER: boy was she mad when I made that scam public LizAndrsn: If only people would put their energies into something useful OnTheGo731: I'm glad you made her public AKTATTER: and I had truly thought ofher as a fellow tatter and friend OnTheGo731: I should have written down all the names in case she comes into another group AKTATTER: me too I heard from so many "little ol ladies" AKTATTER: in the class that had sent or were about to send stuff to her AKTATTER: I think I still have that email so email me later Jeanne I send it OnTheGo731: ok AKTATTER: well I suspect we may be lonesome tonight AKTATTER: as the Olympic final festivities are about to start I think OnTheGo731: looks like it LizAndrsn: No Dorcas, either? AKTATTER: guess not OnTheGo731: we were just talking about our cold and wind 14 and very windy here AKTATTER: so for the record let's do our thing AKTATTER: FEB 26, 2006 AKTATTER: PLEAS SIGN IN LizAndrsn: Her work that used to be on the Artistic Wire site was true eye candy OnTheGo731: Jeanne Zukowski Lake Peekskill, NY cold and windy AKTATTER: AKTATTER@AOL.COM GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP IL USA cfgtat: Carolyn Groves mdtatter@yahoo.com Frostburg, Md. AKTATTER: YES IT WAS GREAT LizAndrsn: Liz Anderson, Colorado Springs, CO lizandrsn@aol.com AKTATTER: THE LINKS FOR TONIGHT ARE AKTATTER: CopperWireTat http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat.html AKTATTER: AND AKTATTER: CopperWireTat2 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html cfgtat: I've been thinking about doing some stuff with wire. but wondered how hard it is on the hadns. AKTATTER: THIS IS A BASIC LOOK AT COPPER WIRE TATTING AKTATTER: DORCAS SAYS THIS IS EASY AKTATTER: AND CAROLYN SAYS IT JUST TAKES GETTING USED TO MAKING THE WORE WORK FOR YOU AKTATTER: THE BASIC PREMISE IS TO JUST TAT AKTATTER: WITH FINGER TATTING AKTATTER: OR WITH THE COPPER WIRE WOUND ON LOOSE PLASTIC SHUTTLE AKTATTER: THE METHOD REMAINS THE SAME AKTATTER: BUT THE FINISHED PRODUCT IS MALLEABLE AKTATTER: AND THEY BOTH ENCOURAGE US TO SMASH IT DONW AKTATTER: YOU CAN TAT SIMPLE CHAINS AKTATTER: AS DORCAS DID IN THE FIRST SAMPLS cfgtat: that was news to me. AKTATTER: WAHT WAS NEWS? FINGER TATTING? cfgtat: no smashing it. AKTATTER: OH! WELL i HAD SEEN THAT DONE ON BOBBIN LACE COPPER WIRE PIECES AKTATTER: SO I EXPECTED IT AKTATTER: OK THE CHAINS THEN WE MOLD AROUND SOMETHING LizAndrsn: And I'd forgotten about smashing it! AKTATTER: LIKE THE COKIE CUTTERS DORCAS CHOSE OnlineHost: Dntats4u has entered the room. AKTATTER: OH THERE SHE IS! AKTATTER: WELCOME DORCAS LizAndrsn: Welcome Dorcas AKTATTER: I WAS JUST SAYING THAT AKTATTER: YOU TATTING THE LONG CHAINS AKTATTER: AND THEN MOLDED THEM Dntats4u: Sorry, I was in Myrtle 2006 AKTATTER: YOU WERE USING COOKIE CUTTERS I BELIEVE Dntats4u: yes OnTheGo731: Very nice Dorcas AKTATTER: DARN THAT 2006 ROOM WOULDN'T LET HALF OF US IN! cfgtat: yes very interesting. AKTATTER: SO WE ARE BACK HERE AGAIN Dntats4u: thank you AKTATTER: AND AFTER THE TATTING WAS DONE YOU SMASHED IT DOWN TOO Dntats4u: with a tack hammer Dntats4u: gently cfgtat: would a rubber hammer work too? OnTheGo731: just put the ends together and smash does it seal them together Dntats4u: I don't see why not AKTATTER: I THINK THESE SAMPLES ARE SIMPLE ENOUGH TO GET ANY TATTER TO TRY IT AT LEAST ONCE AKTATTER: ANY OTHER TIPS FOR US DORCAS? cfgtat: have you used any of the colored wire? Dntats4u: I have used all of the colors cfgtat: cool. AKTATTER: THERE IS CERTAINLY A WIDE CHOICE OF COLORS AVAILABLE NOW Dntats4u: use a gentle touch with the wire Dntats4u: I prefer size 34, almost like thread, but it didn't lend itself to this project AKTATTER: DID YO FINGER TAT SHUTTLE TAT OR NEEDLE TAT THESE? Dntats4u: I wind the wire on a bobbin and use my Susan Bates shuttle cfgtat: I was wondering if it's better to wrap the wire, as in needle tatting. would that be easier on the hands? AKTATTER: OK ANYTHING TO BEWARE ABOUT? LizAndrsn: The wire isn't exactly kind to shuttles -- did you find that too? Dntats4u: It doesn't hurt your hands Dntats4u: I haven't found that it hurt mine Dntats4u: how do you mean? AKTATTER: SHOULDN'T USE A WOODEN SHUTTLE WITH WIRE AKTATTER: STICK WITH PLASTIC LizAndrsn: I ground down a couple Clover picks tatting with wire - I didn't use a hook Dntats4u: ah AKTATTER: DOES THE WIRE BREAK EASILY? Dntats4u: the size I used for this project doesn't, the size 34 can AKTATTER: OK GOOD TO KNOW THAT AKTATTER: MANY THANKS DORCAS FOR PREPARING THIS AKTATTER: BASIC INTRO TO COPPER WIRE TATTING LizAndrsn: Beautiful and inspiring! cfgtat: yes thanks I'll be looking for the wire now. OnTheGo731: will have to try this I did not have any luck with Marks roses in wire the wire broke all the time for me AKTATTER: YES AND WITH JUST A LITTLE PRACTICE WE MAY BE ABLE TO DO THE FANCY STUFF AKTATTER: LIKE THE SAMPLES CAROLYN REGNIE R SHARED WITH US OnTheGo731: is there a finish we should use onthe wire so it does not tarnish AKTATTER: CopperWireTat2 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/copperwiretat2.html LizAndrsn: Good question! AKTATTER: I THOUGHT THE WIRE HAD A PROTECTIVE COATING cfgtat: would a clear coat of varnish protect it? OnTheGo731: If you use copper it would not right? Dntats4u: I don't know, but I do know that if it is exposed to the direct sun, it fades - bad AKTATTER: OH THAT IS GOOD TO KNOWTHEN AKTATTER: THESE SAMPLE FROM CAROLYN OnTheGo731: then perhaps we can try a clear spray varnish on it AKTATTER: SHOW MORE INTENSE TATTING AKTATTER: BUT THE PREMISE IS THE SAME AS DORCAS' SAMPLES AKTATTER: AND TEH CLASS SAMPLES ARE THE TOP AKTATTER: SHOW THAT THE VARIETY OF THEMES IS ENDLESS OnTheGo731: the tatting is very loosly made as in comparison to thread corrrect LizAndrsn: Wouldn't those surprise and unsuspecting Fair Judge! LOL AKTATTER: YES THAT SEEMS TO BE SO IN ALL SAMPLES WE SEE Dntats4u: yes cfgtat: yes that's what I noticed. AKTATTER: OH BOY THEY WOULD NEW A NEW CATEFORY FOR THAT OnTheGo731: I think that was my problem I was trying to tighten to look like thread rings and chains AKTATTER: THERE WAS A LINK TO A COPPER WIRE ANGEL ON DIANNA STEVENS' PAGE ALSO AKTATTER: THAT ANGEL IS A DESIGN BY MONA HAHN OnTheGo731: yes I have seen that AKTATTER: BUT ITHINK IT WOULD FIR JUST RIGHT WITH DORCAS' TREE ORNAMENTS OnTheGo731: Mark Meyers makes a tatted wire rose also not sure if it is on his site AKTATTER: YES i REMEMBER THAT ROSE AKTATTER: I WONDER IF I HAVE THE LIN KSTILL OnTheGo731: the ornaments are great and the angle with them for my tated tree ornaments cfgtat: is it better to stick with simple designs in wire? LizAndrsn: Ooo, the MiniTats would be good in wire cfgtat: ohhhhh, yes!! Dntats4u: I would think you could use wire for any pattern OnTheGo731: I could not see doing a really coplidated design with wires AKTATTER: OH YES THOSE DESIGNS WOULD BE PERFECT cfgtat: I was thinking jewelry. LizAndrsn: Sure! OnTheGo731: rings and joining icots are not easy with wire I don't think AKTATTER: SO WOULD BEADS ON THE COPPER WIRE BE GILDING THE LILY? cfgtat: absolutely. OnTheGo731: great idea LizAndrsn: Pah! Dntats4u: I made a 3-D tatted, beaded, wire poinsettia once cfgtat: I have some wacky lampwork beads that are too heavy for thread. cfgtat: I'll bet they work great with wire! LizAndrsn: Beautiful - I saw it in your album, Dorcas OnTheGo731: is there a picture of the poinsettia online Dntats4u: my photo album Lily Morales help me set up AKTATTER: WE HAVE TATTED POINSETTIS BUT NOT WIRE? Dntats4u: http://photos.yahoo.com/epctatter AKTATTER: NEAT OnTheGo731: I did the Leaf in a poinsettia but not sire OnTheGo731: wire Dntats4u: it was in wire, 34 LizAndrsn: Do you recall how long it took to make, Dorcas? Dntats4u: yes, 25 hours AKTATTER: OH I LOVE THE CATS AKTATTER: AND THE NINJA TURLE AKTATTER: TURTLE AKTATTER: WHAT WAS I LOOKING FOR? cfgtat: marks wire angel? OnTheGo731: Poinsettia AK you get lost like I do when looking at beautiful pictures LizAndrsn: "Of all the things I've lost, I miss my mind the most.: AKTATTER: LOL AKTATTER: OH YES! AKTATTER: OK BACK TO BUSINESS HERE AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO DORCAS AND TO CAROLYN FOR SHARING THEIR WORK THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS AKTATTER: THIS WEEK 3 BOOK REIVEWS WERE POSTED TOO AKTATTER: SumiFujishigeTatLace http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/fujishigetatlace.html AKTATTER: EdisaxeBeginnerhttp://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/edisaxefrench.html AKTATTER: PFbeginnergreathttp://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/pffrench.html AKTATTER: THAT WAS ONE IS A GEM OnTheGo731: TRhanks so much for the wire idea getting back into my mind AKTATTER: YES IT IS SOMETHING WE ALL NEED TO TRY OUT AKTATTER: WE NEED TO EXPAND OUR BORDERS WITH TATTING LizAndrsn: Road trip -- Hobby store -- wanna come a long! cfgtat: ah, another reason to head to Michael's. AKTATTER: i'M GOING ON TUES! AKTATTER: 65 MILES TO MICHAELS THO AKTATTER: EVEN FURTHER FOR BEN FRANKLIN OnTheGo731: sounds like you are going to be busy with road trips for classes this summer AK cfgtat: same here AK. AKTATTER: WELL APRIL IS BUSY LizAndrsn: Ouch! What you got for our craft AKTATTER: NY MT AND WA ALL IN ONE MONTH AKTATTER: AND SC IN JUNE AND I HOPE THAT TRIP TO MARTHA'S VINEYAR D AREA OnTheGo731: Wow driving to all AKTATTER: DON'T KNOW IF IT IS A GO AKTATTER: GOING TO FLY wa ND mt RENT CAR AKTATTER: THE RETREAT UP NORTH THERE IS ONLY 15 MILES FROM PLYMOUTH ROCK AKTATTER: SO I HOPE WE GET ENOUGH REGISTRATIONS FOR THAT! AKTATTER: LILY MORALES IS IN INDIANA FRI AKTATTER: UP AT ZIGZAG AKTATTER: RUTH PERRY AND LILY AND MEETING WITH MOTHER MACARIA AKTATTER: THE NUN FROM THE CONVENT IN INDY LizAndrsn: Man! Wish I were there too! OnTheGo731: Ruth Perry is so talkented in Tatting AKTATTER: AND oUTSIDE HERE IN THE MIDWEST THERE ARE JUST ROADS EVERYWHERE AKTATTER: ME TOO!!! AKTATTER: SHE SURE IS AKTATTER: AND MOM MAC WORKS WITH REAL GOLD THREAD!! AKTATTER: WOW AKTATTER: OK ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR TONIGHT? OnTheGo731: I was hoping to get to see you in Hector but it looks like Linda and I will miss this year AKTATTER: YES I AM SURE DISAPPONTED ABOUT THAT cfgtat: thanks Dorcas. AKTATTER: BUT NEXT YEAR! Dntats4u: I have never head of Mother Macaria AKTATTER: BLXENIA @ ??? AKTATTER: THAT IS MOM MAC cfgtat: she's not been too talkative on the lists in the past several months. AKTATTER: NEAT LADY WITH HEALTH PROBLEMS BUT ALLOWED OUT OF CONVENT AKTATTER: SO SHE IS ABLE TO MAKE THE TATMEETING AKTATTER: LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? AKTATTER: ALRIGHT HTNE MANY THANKS FOR STOPPING BY OnTheGo731: thank you AK and Happy BIrthday AKTATTER: THIS CLASS REPEATS AT 3pm ADN 8:30pm ET (NEW YORK TIME) AKTATTER: MONDAY LizAndrsn: Thanks everyone - g'night AKTATTER: JANE EBORALL AND SUE HANSON ARE SCHEDULED TO AKTATTER: JOIN THE 3PMet CLASS TOMORROW OnTheGo731: nice I will not be home AKTATTER: THANKS YOU TOO JEANNE OnTheGo731: I have to miss them AKTATTER: LOL AKTATTER: OK GOOD NIGHT ALL Dntats4u: good night