AFTERNOON AND EVENING SESSIONS BOTH Session Start: Mon Jan 30 14:00:08 2006 *** Now talking in #tatchat Jan. 30 2005 afternoon class 3PM ET (New York Time) http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/beetonrosette.html *** Tatter has joined #tatchat http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf welcome! *** Tatter is now known as Susanne http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys.pdf Hi susanne http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html Hi Georgia http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/15147. The entire Beeton book free download how are you doing? got any tatting projects going? Oh I have not had time to study for class tonight, sorry *** Tatter has joined #tatchat not a problem you can listen in or go print the lessons *** Tatter is now known as maryjane Mary Jane you finally made it! Yes I will listen Mary Jane did you work this pattern with Gina this week? yes I did., still don't havae the Sunday program on computer yet this room is better MJ No what pattern is that from Gina *** Tatter has joined #tatchat the heart rosette? OK I am here but ther eis no one? Am I in the right place...? no I didn't see that http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html AK it's me Sue http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf *** Tatter675 has joined #tatchat Dorcas Ann hey Sue type: /nick yourname Hi Dorcas Ann Hi, Mary Jane, are you feeling better? Hi Sue and Dorcas Ann How do I get a name? type: /nick yourname I forgot how *** Tatter is now known as Yorkiesue Yes, I think I am back to normal still havae busted lip Soo now I should be here & named thanks for your note earlier Sue I sent it on to the tatter in Zimbabwe welcome... I could also check the Ring membership if need be? ok 675 just type: /nick yourname what are we doing today that would be lovely too http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf that is Gina's variations OK made a note to aid me poor brain this is the long version of Wally's http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys.pdf this is the short version http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html nickDorcas I don't think it worked yoi forgot the / slashmark /nick yourname Or use the little white bow to the right I must say I love what the girls have done to Mrs B box - sorry me too very creative work Yes lovely work Doesn't that Wally evr sleep! Soo many examples and thinking outside the box it is a good antidepressant for her Tatting is so good for many things Wow Bo's managed to help me make the type large enough for me to read! The wonders of it all :-) I can't beleive I am here and it's workjing! :-) /nick Dorcas It's provided me with some very strong friendships dorcas are you using mirc? the site sponsored by simplyspace ok inthebottom right there is a box that says change nick in the tiny white box below that type dorcas and hit the enter button *** Tatter675 is now known as Dorcas I didn't see the white box yeh dorcas Susanne that is one of the greatest things about tatting; we might not have met face to face but we all friends thanks :) ok lets get started please 12Well done PLEASE SIGN IN GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS USA 13I think I might now have purple text? 13YEA! 12Susanne aka Dantatter, Aarhus in Denmark Dorcas Newkirk, Evanvsille, IN WTG SUE JAZZ IT UP! mary Jane Brittingham., Santa Claus In Usa GLAD YOU COULD STOP BY THIS AFTERNOON 13Sue Hanson, SE London, England WE ARE LOOKING AT THE ANTIQUE PATTERNS OF MRS BEETON LAST FALL SEVERAL TATTERS IN CLASS VOLUNTEERED TO REWORK THEESE ATQ PATTERNS 13oops miss the e sue.hanson99 USING MODERN TATTING TECHNIQUES AND THIS IS THE FIRST BATCH TO DO GINA TOOK ON THE #8 ROSETTE FROM THE BEETON BOOK THE BEETON BOOK IS AVAILABLE FREE DOWNLOAD http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/15147. THERE ARE 3 FILES POSTED GINA'S http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf wALLY'S LONG DOWNLOAD VERSION http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys.pdf AND THE SHORT WALLY VERSION http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html HAS EVERYONE SEEN THE WORK BY GINA YET? *** Mineaj has joined #tatchat *** Mineaj has left #tatchat HELLO MINEA AND WELCOME PLEASE SIGN IN 13Yes - it looks like she used true rings? OOPS THE ORIGINAL BEETON PATTERN DID NOT USE TRUE RINGS BUT CHAINS 13I meant Gina GINA'S VERSION 1 IS ALL CHAINS JUST LIEK THE ORIGINAL 13OK thks THE SECOND VERSION GINA MADE TRUE RINGS IT DOES CHANGE THE LOOK VERSION 3 USES TRUE RINGS BEADS ON A PICOT AND OVER A PICOT AND ADDS DECORATIVE PICOTS 13Thought so and opens it up to the SLT &2 colour I THINK THE RED BEADS WITH THE WHITE IS RATHER STUNNING EXACTLY RIGHT SUE THAT IS VERSION #4 NOTICE THE EXTREME CURVES ON THE CHAINS THEY ADD TO THE HEART SHAPED LOOK JUST COMPRESS YOUR CHAIN BACK TO THE STARTING POINT BEFORE EVERY RW OR JOIN ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FIRST 4? 13Just thought of another variation. Beads for the dimple ring. On the core thread - maybe? SURE IN FACT YOU WILL SEE THAT ON WALLY'S VERSION NEXT GINA CONSIDER THE ROSETTE AS AN EDGING OR INSERTION 13 OK getting a head of meself... YOU MAY NOTICE THAT INSERTIONS TEND TO HAVE EVEN # REPEATS 13MMM an insetions to make a choker? SO GINA ADDED A REPEAT TO MAKE A SIX SIDED MOTIF AND SHE ADDED JOINING PICOTS THESE PICOTS CAN JOIN THE MITFS SIDE BY SIDE AND ON TOP AND BOTTOM IF DESIRED CHOKER NECKLACE GOOD GINA ALSO DID A MOOKMARK VERSION AND PLEASE NOTE HOW THE RIBBON FEEDS THROUGH THE MOTIF 13Moo mark? LOL LOL ALRIGHT SUE NO MAKING FUN OF MY TYPOES THEY JUST GET WORSE 12lol THE BOOKMARK RIBBON COMES UP BETWEEN 3 "HEARTS" OVER THE INNER CHAIN 13Me too someone keeps moving the keys! ACROSS THE OPEN SPACE AND DOWN IN THE SAME AREA WELL I LIKE IT WHEN PATCH JUMPS ON THE KEYBOARD THEN I HAVE SOMEONE TO BLAME IT ON my cat likes to paw type, too THIS LEAVES MORE OF THE TATTING SHOWING A WISE CHOICE OK ANY QUESTIONS ON GINA'S VERSIONS? 13Thinking... the ribbon could be used to tie on the choker? SURE COULD OR YOU CAN TAT ONTO A FASTERN LET'S LOOK AT WALLY'S VERSION SHE BEGANWIT THE SAME VERSION 13Gina's 6 side make a grand flake :-) TRUE SUE! 12Yes sure HER FIRST VERSION WAS TEH ORIGINAL DESIGN ALL CHAINS THEN I DID A BAD THING TO WALLY I SAID WHAT IF? 13meanie AND SENT HER DOWN A HARD ROAD THIS WAS MY CHALLENGE LOOK AT THE OPEN CENTER IT IS FIVE SIDED I THOUGHT THAT A FIVE POINT STAR DESIGN COULD FILL THAT OPEN SPACE. SILLY ME AS YOU CAN SEE THE BULK OF THE THREAD COMPLETELY FILLED THE AREA IN THE CENTER BUT WALLY WENT ON TO PLAY WITH THE PICOTS ON CHAINS AND RINGS/MOCK RINGS ALIKE NOW THIS WAS MY IDEA REGARDING ONLY THE INNDER 5 CHAINS NUMBER THEM 1-5 CHAIN ONE 2 - 1 - 2 CHAIN TWO 2 - 1 - 2 CHAIN 3 2 +JOIN TO 2ND PICOT OF CHAIN 1 1 - 2 CHAIN 4 2 JOIN TO SECOND PICOT ON CHAIN 2 1 JOIN TO FIRST PICOT ON CHAIN 1 CHAIN 5 2 JOIN TO SECOND PICOT OF CHAIN THREE 1 JOIN TO FIRST PICOT OF CHAIN 2 NOW THAT SHOULD MAKE A 5 PT START BUT i COULDN'T GET IT TO WORK SO IF ANY OF YOU FIGURE IT OUT PLEASE LET ME KNOW LOL I WON'T ASK FOR QUESTIONS ON THE 5-PT STAR FILLER I'M AFRIAD OF WHT YOU MIGHT ASK! 13Onto these joining picots a shank button could be added? Similar to Janice Blair's Wreath brooch YES OF COURSE THE CENTER CAN BE FILLED WITH BEAD OR BUTTON NOW i THINK THAT WALLY'S BEADED VERSION ARE THE BESTOF ALL 13Sorry been infect by Karey |I see buttons everywhere... TAKE A LOOK AT THE BOTOM OF HER PAGE THAT FIRST ONE HAS THE BEADS ON THE SHUTTLE FCORE THREAD SUE AND LOOK AT THOSE POINTS 8 BEADS! AND THE PLACEMENT OF THE BEAD INSIDE THE RING/MOCKRING REALLY MAKES IT POP PUT! 13Isent wally a cleaned up version. been plying with me paiting thing... Beautiful they am :-) OUT! AND THE CHOICE OF LARGE BEADS ON THE LAST VERSION EMPHASIZED THE HEART SHAPE I THINK ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BEADED VERSIONS?? 13Yep I was wondering how she added these? 13Large beads SHE DOESN'T SAY BUT YOU COULD JUST PULL SOEM OF THE CORE THREAD THRU THE BEAD AND CENTER IT SLIP SHUTTLE THROUGH THE LOOP BEFORE REMOVING THE SLACK 13I looked at the scan enlarged and the thread goes in at the base of the mock ring... So wondering if she joined a loop taken through the large bead under the middle bead of the ring.. SHE CERTAINLY COULDHAVE DONE IT 13joined under the middle bead 13Like it whatever - I am going to HAVE to play! ANY OTHER QUESTIONS ON THE BEETON ROSETTE? WELL HAVE FUN WITH IT SUE! 13Ooo the time... IF ONLY 13mm WELLTHAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TODAY? ANY GENERAL QUESTIONS? 12No EVERYONE HERE KNOWS THE SHOELACE TRICK OK? 13SHame now I have got here and the others are soooo quiet! 12Yes 13Yes love it THEY ARE IN AWE OF SUE HANSON! ME TOO 13naaa you maybe but not me 12Yes we are, lol OK THEN MANY THANKS FOR STOPPING BY TODAY 13I don't bite... well not often! 12Thanks Georgia THIS LESSON REPEATS AT 8:30pm et NEW YORK TIME TONIGHT BYE NOW HAPPY TATTING! Session Close: Mon Jan 30 14:40:24 2006 Session Start: Mon Jan 30 19:26:25 2006 *** Now talking in #tatchat 03I was born in Trenton hello all 03hi georgia 05Hello 12Hi Georgia hello Georgia 03i told you i'd hit myself in the head when you told me what slt meant great work on the bookmark sara lol Donna we have so many abbreviations yea, and I surrer from mental pause most of the time Thank you very much Georgia see, i suffer *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as Anita hi all hi Anita 05Hi, Anita Hi Anita how is everyone tonight? so, how cold is it in Alaska these days Georgia? *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter576 has joined #tatchat 12Georgia I am in the class already, sitting in the background I'm peachy, I am always peachy, a little fuzzy around the edges hiy aRiet I was looking at smeullie my bro told me it was -46 on Thurs. pm *** Tatter396 has joined #tatchat 12no in this class I can gave my own name bbbuuuurrrrrrr I have a balmy 48 degrees here in Illinois today adn no snow! you aren't in alaska any more? *** Tatter337 has joined #tatchat I moved in Sept. 2003 retired to the home farm in Greenup IL http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/beetonrosette.html *** Tatter337 is now known as alphaprimavera Happy? it is wonderful here good green winter lots of sunshine *** Tatter396 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) brb had everyone seen the book review? Allo everyone! i am not that big a fan of sunshine, lived in Fla for years, hated it love the snow but don't get much of it around here I love the 4 seasons 12you mean Ben' book? me too *** Tatter086 has joined #tatchat Allo Riet! *** Tatter086 is now known as Darla i can't wait to check out Mark's new book 12hi alpha *** Tatter387 has joined #tatchat ok back *** Tatter376 has joined #tatchat I just got off work and haven't had a chance to see what it's alla bout *** Tatter376 is now known as ginabea to change your name type: /nick yourname 12is there a new book from Mark? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/myershow2.html yep! *** Tatter is now known as Terry he is so great, he came to visit a few years ago, we had a great time Hey terry! here's Ben's book his wife is so nice too Hello Hello Terry http://www.georgiaseitz.com/reviews/fikkertbk2.html *** Terry has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) oh oh we scared Terry off http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/15147 http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf the long download http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys.pdf the short version http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html *** Tatter387 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Tatter has joined #tatchat *** Tatter650 has joined #tatchat *** Tatter is now known as ATerry welcome back terry 12hi terry wb to change your name type in the skinny window at the bottom /nick yourname Yorkiesue here again hi ya Sue you night owl hi sue *** ATerry is now known as Terry well I was tatting and saw the time 12hi Sue are your eyes still open to change your name type /nick yourname Yep sweetie how are you *** Tatter650 is now known as yorkiesue 12i am mmmm it goes , beeing here is good for me ok let's get seated and sign in please *** tatcath has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL usa I came earlier and frightened the porr sould! LO LOL poor sould soul anita hobden, ahobden@hotmail.com, london ontario 12sheron goldin, columbia, sc, sherongb got AK fingers Donata from North Carolina usa JNA. 30, 2005 EVENING SESSION < 12Riet Surtel-Smeulders from Tilburg in The Netherlands r.surtel@home.nl Hi Sheron 12Hi Sue Hi Donata ANd Gina hey sweetie Darla Bohn, Andover, MN, Darlagbohn@aol.com THANKS EVERYONE FOR STOPPING BY TONIGHT Carmen, Peru South America 12Hi Gina !!!!! 12Lets see if the laptop behaves today Paule Primeau Boucherville Quebec Canada alpha.prime@vl.videotron.ca Sara_emilia sara_emilia1970@yahoo.com.ar Argentina SHERON I AM POSTING NEEDLECRAFT MAGS YOU SENT TODAY. GOING WELL SO FAR howdy! to the gals across the water Sue Hanson SE London UK YE WE ARE VERY INTERNATIONAL TONIGHT YEA!! 12I sent some ti prof. griswald so we will have a second site also cool PERU ARGENTINA HOLLAND UK CANADA AND MANY POINTS IN BETWEEN SUPER WORK SHERON 13should be purple now :_) TONIGHT WE ARE LOOKING AT A STUDY OF SOME ANTIQUE PATTERNS Allo Sue Hanson from Canada 12ti prof.griswald???? 13Quien de Argentina? LAST FALL WE TALKED ABOUT THE MRD. BEETON BOOK OFNEEDLE WORK 12Have jpegs of Priscilla #2, have to PDF trhem WHICH IS AVAILABLE IN FREE DOWNLOAD http://www.gutenberg.org/etext/15147 13alpha? SEVERAL TATTERS IN CLASSVOLUNTEERED TO REWORK THE ANTIQUE PATTERNS IN MODERN TATTING TECHNIQUES My name is Paule THIS FIRST BATCH IS PREPARED FOR THE CLASS BY GINA BRUMMET I love your designs SARA I THINK IS ARGENTINA? SO LET'S LOOK AT GINA'S PAGE *** Tatter has joined #tatchat 13Thank you...me better be quiet. AK is busy chat after clas? WELCOME TATTER TAKE A SEAT AND SIGN IN PLEASE *** Tatter is now known as tatcath CROSS CHAT IS ALLOWED A LITTLE WB http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf GINA BRUMMET REPRODUCED THE ORIGINAL ROSETTE IN THE FIRST PATTERN 13OK has everyone signed in? YES ITHINK SO SUE DO YOU HAVE AN ANNOUNCEE=MENT? 13Just soo I'll know later who's here Catherine Edison, NJ OK THEN LOOK AT THE ANTIQUE PATTERN WHAT DO YOU NOTICE FIRST? IT IS ALL CHAINS! it starts with a mock picot, not my favorite MP IS A GOOD CONSTRUCTION TOOL THO yes teacher 13First try I used the drop loop - bad idea... LOL AH SHUCKS MA'AM Drop Loop? GINA'S SECOND TRY USED TRUE RINGS SCMR 13Like yiu would use for an SCMR AH! AND THIS IS WHERE YOU NEED TO REMEMBER THE SLT http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html GINA'S THRID VERSION IS RATHER STUNNING WITH THE WHITE THREAD AND RED BEADS BEADS ON THE PICOTS AND OVER THE PICOTS 05very attractive AND SHE ADDED DECORATIVE PICOTS ON THE OUTSIDE ALSO TEH FOURTH VERSION TOOK IT ONE STEP FARTHER BY ADDING 2 COLORS ANY QUESTIONS SO FAR? Yes What kind of join to the base of the heart? 13May I say that tensioning each chain before the SLT is reaaly important...? THE JOIN IS MADE ACROSS IT IS A REGULAR JOIN THAT IS VERY TRUE 132 shuttles? AND COMPRESSING THE CHAIN BACK TO THE STARTING POINT ALSO ENHANCES THE HEART SHAPE YES 2 13Thks GINA THEN CONSIDERED THE ROSETTE FOR AN INSERTION MANY INSERTIONS ARE MANY WITH EVEN SIDED MOTIF REPEATS SO GIAN ADDED A REPEAT TO FORM A 6-SIDED MOTIF HERE SHE ALSO ADDED JOINING PICOTS JUST BUMPS TO JOINS THE MOTIFS TOGETHER SIDE TO SIDE AND OTHER TO JOIN TOTHE FABRIC ON EITHER OR BOTH SIDES VERY SENSIBLE PLAN NOW LOOK AT THE BOOK MARK TEH SAME PATTERN WITH A RIBBON DRAWN THROUGH IT DID YOU SPOT WHERE THE RIBBON WENT UP AND DOWN? IT COMES UP IN BETWEEN TWO HEARTS OVER THE CHAIN AND ACROSS THE OPEN CENTER THEN OVER THE CHAIN ON OPP SIDE AND DOWN THAT ALLOWS MORE OF THE TATTING TO SHOW AND GOOING UP AND OVER THRU THE EXACT CENTER ANY QUESTIONS? 13Just a thought using the 5 point using 6 motifs one in the centre with 5 around for a mat? i used 3 strands of embroidery thread for one motif.... dont think a ribbon would fit.... have to try it bigger i think :( 13Or a narrower ribbon? :-) SURE IT WOULDMAKE A FINE DOILY would have to be a really narrow one OHH THAT WAS SMALL ANITA 12sue do you like doilies about 1/8 inch Version "2 it says ...ch10, p, 1 ds...What is that picot for?... 13a plaited cord made with the same thread? the whold motif is only about 1.5" SEND ME A PHOTO FOR THE HOMEOWRK FILES ANITA PUT A COIN OR SOMETHING IN WITH IT TO GAUGE THE SIZE sure G.... will scan it right after class VERSION 2 13No Riet - I don't doo doilies LOL Yes first line 12you only design for other tatters VERSION 2 START WITH A MOCK PICOT *ch 5 - (OR JOIN) 9 mp SLT IS THAT THE ONE? *** Sara_Emilia has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) yes then ch 5, bp, ch10,p, 1 ds, rw 13Yep question.... starting with a mock picot..... is that the same as having a paper clip there to start? no *** Tatter has joined #tatchat IS THE START RED OR BLUE? 13That is one method... i am speaking od Gina's version 2 OK THAT PICOT IS THE ONE THT THE CHAINS JOINS TO AFTER COMING OUT OF THE HEART I THINK 13Yes AK it is YES YOU COULD HOLD TEH SPACE WITH A PAPER CLIP OK PUALE? got it! but it doesn't say so in the pattern WELL IT IS A GOOD THING YOU CAME TO CLASS THEN TONIGHT! yes OK ANITA? got it thanks g:) RIGHT THEN LET'S L;OOK AT WALLY'S VERSION *** Tatter576 has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** ginabea has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) *** Mm has joined #tatchat AGAIN WALLY STARTED WITH THE ORIGINAL MM GLAD TO SEE YOU! 13Going back to the original Beeton pattern - what is the "plain" I was studying the stitches and I wondered if it's a drop picot like Nichols did? PLAIN STITCH? 12hi miriam I was wondering too 13MMM the pattern startes with 1 plain THE TWO HALF STITCHES WERE SOMETIMES CALL THE PURL STITCH AND THE PLAIN STITCH ADN SOMETIMES CALLED TEH FRENCH STITCH OR THE ENGLISH STITCH 13OK soo what are the picots in the old pattern? I thought they were purpls 13purls 12and the picot is between first and seconf halfstich YES SOEMTIMES CALLED PURLS, DOTS, PICOTS, 12they used the term purl for more than 1 thing YES UNFORTUNATELY THERE IS A LOT OF CONFUSINO AMONGTERMS AND REMEMBER 13rotters - just to comfuse me! LOL THEY COULD WELL BE DOING THIS WITH A NEEDLE USED AS IF IT WERE A TATTING SHUTTLE INSTEAD OF ACTUALLY TATTING WHENEVER POSSIBLE LOOK AT THE PICTURE AND TAT WHAT YOU SEE JUST USE COMMON SENSE NOW AFTER WALLY GOT GOING I DID A VERY BAD THING TO HER 13Ahhh that is why it looks like an extra stitch at the base of the ring... They joined with the needle round the base... THAT WAS A COMMON WAY TO DO I THEN USING THE NEEDLE AS IF IT WERE A SHUTTLE ALLOWS YOU TO PLACE DS IN PLACES WHERE WE WOULDN'T THINK O FIT DOING WITH WITH A SHUTTLE OR IT WOULD MAKE US WRAP THE DS ON AS IF WE WERE MAKING A SPLIT CHAIN BACK TO POOR WALLY 13Yep only to look at that Dutch book... 12or fingertat 13Sorry INDEED SO! I ASKED WALLY TO CONSIDER THE OPEN CENTER AND CONSIDER FILLING IT WITH A FIVE PT STAR AS YOU CAN SEE FROM HER CENTERS THE BULKOF THE THREAD OBSCURED THE DESIGN WOULD ANYONE LIKE TO TRY IT? LOL I THOUGHT NOT 13Thats what I was playing with before I came here OK WALLY' SECOND VERSION IS STILL ALL CHAINS 13wasn't working IN VERSION 3 SHE BEGAN TO PLAY WITH THE PICOTS 12is there room anough for a 5 point star AND IN THE 4TH ONE SHE ADDED DECORATRIVE PICOTS would be a tight fit I THINK MAYBE 13I can see version 3 with stiffened picots fro points MAYBE IF THE PICOTS WERE TIGHTLY TWISTED BEFORE JOINING IT MIGHT WORK OH YES THAT WOULD WORK SUE *** tatcath has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer) NOW LET'S LOOK AT WALLY'S BEADED VERSION 12or made them shorter 13The beaded one's are COOL! I THINK THAT FIRS BEADED ONE WITH 8 BEADS ON TH4E PICOT IS GORGEOUS Agree! 13 looks like a double picot 12where are the beaded ones AND PUTTING THE SMALL BEAD IN TEH CENTER OF THE HEARTS CHANGED THE LOOK A LOT I NO LONGER SEE IT AS A HEART SHAPE BUT FILIGREE WORK AT THE BOTTOM OF THE PAGE beaded motif as a pendant? http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html AN EXCELLENT IDEA CARMEN sandriver... i was thinking the same thing THE LAST BEADED ONE HSA BEADS ON TEH PICOTS AND A LARGE BEAD IN THE CENTER OF THE HEART 13OOO yes Carmen 12o dum blond didn' print that part sorry THERE WERE TWO PAGES FOR WALLY RIET TEH PDF IS A VERY LONG DOWNLOAD TEH HTML IS SHORT AND HAD THE BEADS AT TEH BOTTOM OF THE PAGE 12yes I see , I have 4 but still is more ANY QUESTIONS ON WLLY'S MODELS? How do you put a bead at the center? she did a wonderful job, thank her for us YOU CAN DO IT SEVERAL WAYS YES AMNY THANKS TO WALL AND GINA BOTH SUE WHAT DID YOUR ENLARGED SCAN SHOW? 13I'll sent you just the picture Riet 13In your in box.... about now YOU CAN BRING SOME OF THE CORE THREAD DOWN THRU THE BED AND JOIN TO IT YOU CAN MAKE A PICOT ON THE LAST OF THE CHAIN BEFORE THE RW AND PULL IT BACKWARDS 13I think the mock picot was made longer bead + a bit for joining. Then the chain worked to the central bead and the join made 13 But thats only a guess YES THAT IS A GOOD GUESS 12Thank you Sue ANY OTHER QUESTIONS? the 8 beads? 13don't think sooo LIKE A LARGE PICOT at the top of the heart? DOUBLED OVER 5 BEADS ON OUTER LEG 3 BEADS ON INER LEG JOIN IS MADE IN BETWEEN BEAD 5 AND 6 Ah! they really are beautiful 13the 8 beads, on a loong picot then a couple of ds made then the long picot joined back with 3 underneath & 5 on top 13Is that CA Terry tERRY THE TATTER Texas 13not Terry the Tatter then OK THEN MANY THANKS TO BOTH GINA AND WALLY FOR MAKING THESE PATTERNS TO INSPIRE US 13DITTO NOW NEXT WEEK WE HAVE A VALENTINE'S DAY HEART PATTERN Georgia, are you going to teach needle tatting lessons online? THIS HEART IS A TRUE HEART IN CONSTRUCTIONS when will we get it Georgia? YES WE CAN DO THAT CARMEN BEGINNING LESSONS THO ARE IN THE WED CLASS 12AKA I have a different version of Wally YES rIET DO YOU WANT TO POST IT? THE V-DAY HAS BEADS AND BUTTONS! 12that was on your site CARMEN IF YOU NEED HELP WE CAN ALSO MEET HERE IN THE CLASSROOM DURING THE DAY TOO 12i downloaded it from class on line YES THERE IS A PDF VERSION AND AN HMTL VERSION Needle tatting, I think will be easier to work with wire 12ok TEH HTML VERSION DOES NOT HAVE THE SCAN SCANS IN IT WIRE! DORCAS HAS JUST WRITTEN AND MADE 5 WIRE TATTING PATTERNS FOR US 12Carmen: Checkout the MSN group - needle tatting 2. I SHOULD GET THE PATTERNS THIS WEEK 13I am confused a wire tatted heart? tp://groups.msn.com/NeedleTattingTwo/basicshowtotat.msnw 12It's Roger's site and has good tutorials WIRE AND HEART TWO DIFFERENT LESSONS 12that will feel verry hard are we talking tatting with wire or on wire? 13OK... What are you on about Riet? http://groups.msn.com/NeedleTattingTwo/basicshowtotat.msnw 12???? 13the heart pattern already up? teh pdf version of wally's rosettes was too large to download for some it will be shortly posted shortly and teh wire patterns after that ok that is all i have for tonight LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS? tatting with wire like knitting or crochet with wire SIMILAR BUT USE SHUTTLE OR TATTING NEEDLE G i sent the scan of the motif i did What kind of wire? THANKS ANITA COPPER ART WIRE ALSO COMES IN COLORS it is only a touch bigger than a quarter lol 12georgia did you fix that old book 13What guage please? DORCAS WILL HAVE THE DETAILS FOR US SOON Silver THE COLLINGBOURNES' REFUSES TO FIX SO TRYING IT AGAIN 13OOO been meaning to have a play since I got Sherry & Marks handouts... YOU CAN TAT WITH REAL SILVER WIRE TOO DARLA YOU ARE WAY TOO QUIET TONIGHT 13But is not very friendly to re bend YOU TOO ANONYMOUS TATTER 12yes and you can take copper threads from spools in a dynamo 13Done that in the past for knitting Oh, I'm listening. RECYLCING! GOOD DARLA 13Yep and if you;re liucky nice colours too Taking notes and admiring the handiwork! 12yes thats what we have to do BE SURE TO CHECK OUT MARK'S NEW BOOK AND I HAVE PLENTY OF COPIES OF BEN'S BOOK AND TEH SCHARF BOOK ON HAND thanks Georgia, another great lesson night all I ALSO HAVE A LITTLE BOOK SALE INPROGRESS, MAKE ME AN OFFER I CAN'T REFUSE! THANKS VERY MUCH 12the sharf book 13I've already recommeded it to a tatter Jane Met in Conneticut and she sent her to me for Single Shuttle patterns :-) GLAD TO SEE YOU AL LHERE TONIGHT *** DONATA has quit IRC (Quit: Tatters 4 forever!) Thank you! Good night! niters dear friends GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING ALL Session Close: Mon Jan 30 20:24:59 2006