Stich50: Hello Happy New YEar Mm13131: evening dear friends! Mm13131: How is BLS? AKTATTER: Gong Hsi Fa Tsai Happy Lunar New Year! AKTATTER: she had a good day today mm AKTATTER: they had to move her room closer tothe nurses's station this week AKTATTER: but she is settling in well OnlineHost: Dntats4u has entered the room. AKTATTER: welcom Dorcas Dntats4u: hello Mm13131: that sounds good! Will have to send you a pic for her of "my stolen identity~" AKTATTER: lol stolen ? wow Mm13131: My newest great graandsoon goes by Trey! Mm13131: He is a heartbreaker! OnlineHost: Clunymimi has entered the room. AKTATTER: Mimi so good to see you Clunymimi: Good evening all! OnTheGo731: Hi mimi AKTATTER: oh I will tell mom that mm Clunymimi: Nice to get to be here. I finally heard you are coming to Spokane! AKTATTER: yes I will be there this year Mm13131: Think I may finally get into class tomorrow Thanks to TR Clunymimi: I will have to redouble my efforts to get there. AKTATTER: oh great mm the Monday night class is always fun too AKTATTER: I hope so Mimi Clunymimi: I may be changing jobs (will know tomorrow). My vacation status is unknown. The good news is the job is 15 mins commute from here (less if I hit the lights right) AKTATTER: 15 min! that is will a great time and money saver Clunymimi: So even if I can't make it to Spokane this year, I will be able to catch the evening classes on Mondays :) AKTATTER: I hope it is as interesting a job as you nowhave AKTATTER: oh that wil be fun Mimi Clunymimi: Not quite, but enough that it is worth the change to lose the 3.5 hours per day commuting. Mm13131: Always nice to have you with us Mimi AKTATTER: commuting time is such a loss Clunymimi: Nice to see you too Miriam. Clunymimi: I hope that's tongue in cheek Georgia AKTATTER: unless you can carpool and sleep, read, study or tat on the way :) AKTATTER: :) Clunymimi: Have a carpool but it's too dark this time of year to do anything but try to find things to talk about to keep the driver awake AKTATTER: did you all see the new posting ? AKTATTER: Wally's pdf is a long download AKTATTER: so I put up an html also AKTATTER: gee that is a different point of view AKTATTER: I rejoice every day that there is so much EXTRA sunlight donw here Clunymimi: Nice job by Gina and Wally. the PDF is missing the beaded photos, the html has it all I think? Mm13131: worked well here AKTATTER: yes it does but it misses the 2 red photos I didn't have separate copies of them AKTATTER: the pdf would not let me copy it AKTATTER: adn Jane Eborall posted 2 new patterns today Clunymimi: The crab is cute. AKTATTER: ok let's get started Mm13131: Didn't know WHO you are AKTATTER: Jane's work is always good AKTATTER: what was that mm? AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Clunymimi: Mimi Dillman, Snohomish, WA USA ntrop@ix.netcom.com Mm13131: Miriam Brown Waterloo, IA Stich50: Linda VanScoy North Salem, NY AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP IL USA AKTATTER: JAN. 29, 2006 AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2006/beetonrosette.html OnlineHost: cfgtat has entered the room. Dntats4u: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN cfgtat: Carolyn Groves Frostburg, Md. mdtatter@yahoo.com AKTATTER: WELCOME CAROLYN AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf OnTheGo731: Jeanne Zukowski Lake Peekskill, NY cfgtat: sorry I'm late. AKTATTER: THIS IS GINA BRUMMET'S VARIATIONS ON THE MRS BEETON ROSETTE PATTERN #8 AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys.pdf AKTATTER: THIS IS THE PDF WITH wALLY SOSA'S VARIATIONS AKTATTER: BUT IT IS A VERY LONG DOWNLOAD AKTATTER: AND THIS IS WALLY VARIATIONS IN HTML AKTATTER: BUT IT HAS FEWERE PHOTOS AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html AKTATTER: YOU ARE ALWAYS WELCOME CAROLYN ANYTIME AKTATTER: LET'S LOOK AT GINA'S PAGE FIRST PLEASE AKTATTER: LAST FALL THE BEETON BOOK WAS POSTED ONLINE AND SHARED AKTATTER: AND SOME OF THE CLASS TATTERS VOLUNTEERED TO REWORK AKTATTER: THE ANTIQUE PATTERNS USING MODERN AKTATTER: TATTING TECHNIQUES AKTATTER: THIS IS THE FIRST OF THAT PROJECT TO GO ONLINE OnlineHost: Mm13131 has entered the room. AKTATTER: PLEASE LOOK AT THE ANTIQUE ROSETTE IN BLACK AND WHITE AKTATTER: WB MM AKTATTER: AT FIRST GLANCE IT LOOKS LIKE SIMPLE RING AND CHAIN AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: IT IS ALL CHAIN AKTATTER: ACTUALLYU BACK IN THE OLD DAYS AKTATTER: THERE WERE MANY TATTER WHO NEVER MASTERED THE RING AKTATTER: AND THEY JUST TATTED CHAINS AKTATTER: JOINING BACK ON THE CHAIN WHERE NEEDED TO CREAT E A RING AKTATTER: LET'S LOOK AT GINA'S FIRS PATTERN OnlineHost: TattingBina has entered the room. AKTATTER: WELCOME TARA AND BINA AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN OnlineHost: TarStt has entered the room. TarStt: Hello TattingBina: Bina Madden, Everett WA tattingbina@gmail.com AKTATTER: THE FIRST ONE IS THE ORIGINAL REPRODUCED AKTATTER: THE SECOND ONE GINA MAKES TRUE RINGS TarStt: tara hamilton Zebulon NC tarstt@mindspring.com AKTATTER: AND ADDED A BEAD OVER THE PICOT JOINS AKTATTER: THE THIRD VERSION IN WHITE WITH THE RED BEADS AKTATTER: IS RATHER EYE CATCHING AKTATTER: IT HAS TRUE RINGS AND BEADED PICOTS AND BEAD OVER THE PICOT TarStt: what is the link please? AKTATTER: AND THE FOURTH VERSION AKTATTER: ADDED2 COLORS AND DECORATIVE PICOTS cfgtat: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/antiquerosetteinterpreted.pdf AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html AKTATTER: LINKS ON PAGE OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. TarStt: thanks OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. AKTATTER: 2006/beetonrosette.html AKTATTER: any questions so far? Clunymimi: None so far. AKTATTER: ok next GINA CONSIDERED THIS PATTERN TO BE USED FOR AN INSERTION AKTATTER: REMEMBER THOSE ANTIQUE MOTIFS YOU DID A STUDY ON CAROLYN? cfgtat: oh the 5 and 6 sided ones? AKTATTER: RIGHT! AKTATTER: FOR INSERTIONS THE PATTERNS TEND TO USE EVEN REPEATS AKTATTER: AND THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT GINA DID HERE AKTATTER: ADDED A REPEAT TO MAKE 6-SIDED FIGURE AKTATTER: AND THE ADDITION OF THE SMALL PICOTS AKTATTER: ALLOWED FOR JOINING MOTIF TO MOTIF AKTATTER: AND MOTIF TO CLOTH ON EITHER OR BOTH SIDES AKTATTER: AND THE LAST PHOTO AKTATTER: THE INSERTION HAS BEEN TURNED INTO ABOOK MARK AKTATTER: BRINGING THE RIBBON UP OVER A CHAIN AND ACROSS THE OPEN CENTER AKTATTER: LEFT MORE OF THE TATTING SHOWING AKTATTER: THAN IF IT HAS JUST GONE IN AND OUT AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON GINA'S VARIATIONS? AKTATTER: ALRIGHT LET'S LOOK AT WALLY'S VERSION AKTATTER: REMEMBER THE PDF IS A LONG DOWNLOAD AND THE HTML IS SHORTENED AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys.pdf AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/public/beetonrosettewallys2.html AKTATTER: NOW HERE WLLY BEGAIN WITH THE SAME MOTIF AKTATTER: DOING ALL CHAINS NO RING AKTATTER: JUST LIKE THE ORIGINAL BEETON ROSETTE AKTATTER: THEN I SUGGEST FILLING THE CENTER AKTATTER: AND WALLY BRAVELY TOOK ON THE IDEA AKTATTER: REMEMBER THIS IS A 5-SIDED FIGURE AKTATTER: WITH A SMALL OPENING IN THE CENTER AKTATTER: SOWHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPEND? Clunymimi: twisted join AKTATTER: WELL THE IDEA WAS TWISTED THAT WAS FOR CERTAIN AKTATTER: BUT WALLY TIRED TO MAKE IT WORK Clunymimi: meaning, have to fold over your work to make the last join in the small space AKTATTER: THIS IS HARD TO EXPLAIN Clunymimi: to keep the finished result from being twisted AKTATTER: THE CENTER HAD 5 SIDES AKTATTER: AND I SUGGEST THE CHAIN BE 1 - 2 - 1 AKTATTER: AND THE IDEA WAS TO CROSS THE PICOTS TO JOIN ON CHAINS OPPO AKTATTER: SITE AKTATTER: TO CREATE A 5-PT STAR cfgtat: but there isn't a true opposite! AKTATTER: SAD BUT TRUE CAROLYN AKTATTER: BUT i COULD DRAW IT AKTATTER: AND i JUST COULDN'T MAKE IT WORK IN THREAD AKTATTER: LOOK AT THE CENTERS AKTATTER: DOES ANYONE SEE WHAT i WAS TRYING FOR? cfgtat: a star shape? AKTATTER: RIGHT AKTATTER: OK CHAIN ONE HAS 2 PICOTS cfgtat: maybe the fact that the picot actually has 2 threads threw it off so it ended up looking a bit cluttered. AKTATTER: CHAIN 2 HAS 2 PICOTS AKTATTER: CHAIN THREE JOINS TO THE SECOND PICOT OF CHAIN ONE AKTATTER: AND HAD ONE PICOT ON IT AKTATTER: CHAIN FOUR JOINS TOTHE SECOND PICOT OF CHAIN 2 AND THE FIRST PICOT OF CHAIN ONE AKTATTER: CHAIN FIVE JOINS TO THE FIRST PICOT OF CHAIN 2 AKTATTER: AND THE SECND PICOT OF CHAIN 3 AKTATTER: OR THAT WAS THE PLAN AKTATTER: cAROLYN THAT MIGHT BE THE PROBLEM IN A NUTSHELL AKTATTER: SO WALLY WENT ON TO PLAY WITH THE PICOTS AKTATTER: SEE VERSION 3 AKTATTER: AND THEN THE TWO EXCELLENT BEADED MODELS cfgtat: it looks fabulous with beads. AKTATTER: THAT FIRST IS GORGEOUS WITH THE 8 BEADS Clunymimi: It does indeed - the beads inside the rings are inspired. AKTATTER: YES AND THE LARGER BEADS ON THE SECOND VERSION WERE REALLY A GOOD CHOICE AKTATTER: NOW BINA MENTIONED SOMETHING ABOUT A DIFFERENT WAY TO DO THIS?? AKTATTER: BINA? AKTATTER: OH OH I MUST HAVE PUT BINA TO SLEEP AKTATTER: I'LL HAVE TO SET OFF SOME CHINESE NEW YEAR'S FIRECRACKERS TO WAKE HER UP AKTATTER: SAY DOES ANYONE KNOW WHY FIRECRACKERS ARE USED AT LUNAR NEW YEAR? Mm13131: too early for that over her way! AKTATTER: FRIGHTENS OFF EVI LSPIRITS AND ATTRACTS GOOD FORTUNE TattingBina: LOL no I went to get a cup of coffee sorry AKTATTER: AND THIS IS THE YEAR OF DOG, TRIED AND TRUE AND TRUSTY Mm13131: why? AKTATTER: WELL ANY QUESTINOS ON THE VARIATIONS? AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO GINA AND WALLY FOR SHARING THEIR WORK WITH US cfgtat: and bina's alternate method is?????? AKTATTER: I GUESS BINA IS KEEPING IT A SECRET Mm13131: Need to find tatting time! TattingBina: Oh just that when I saw the model on G's site AKTATTER: TOO TRUE MM TattingBina: that I thought that the HMSR could be used to create the impression of the ring AKTATTER: WHAT IS THE LINK FOR THAT TECHNIQUE BINA? TattingBina: using two HMSR's back to back TattingBina: http://www.paradisetreasures.com/hmsr.html TattingBina: havent had a chance to tat one up yet though AKTATTER: THANKS i HOPE SOMEONE WILL TRY A VRSION OF THE ROSETTE USING THAT TECHNIQUE AKTATTER: HINT HINT AKTATTER: OK THAT IS ALL THAT i HVAE FOR TONIGHT AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS IN GENERAL? AKTATTER: THE WILL BE A CHANGE IN THE NEW TATTERS CLASS AKTATTER: tAMMY IS GOING TO A 4-WEEK ROTATING CLASS AKTATTER: THE BASICS PRESENTED IN 4 LESSONS AND THEN THE CLASS WIL JOIN US AKTATTER: AND NEW BEGINNERS START AGAIN Clunymimi: That's a great idea Georgia! A 4-week intro for folks who don't feel like they can start out with the regular class! AKTATTER: YES WE HOPE IT WILL GET THEM IN THE MAINSTREAM AS QUICKLY AS POSSIBLE AKTATTER: ALRIGHT THEN MANY THANKS AGAIN TO ALL FOR HELPING OUT WITH THE CLASS AKTATTER: THIS LESSONS REPEATS MON 3pm et AND 8:30pm et (NEW yORK TIME) IN THE INTERNATIONAL CLASSROOM Mm13131: Niters all AKTATTER: SEE YOU AL LNEXT WEEK! TarStt: Night all AKTATTER: HAPPY TATTING Stich50: good night all cfgtat: goodnight all.