TattingBina: HI g AKTATTER: Dec. 11, 2005 AKTATTER: The last lesson of 2005 AKTATTER: DonnaHxmas http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/donnahxmas.html AKTATTER: JudiB doily http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/judibadvtatpg90doily.jpg TattingBina: so where is everyone? AKTATTER: LizAJBpicotproject http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/jblizapicotproject.pdf LizAndrsn: Hey Georgia AKTATTER: Well the holidays mean that everyone is very busy AKTATTER: glad you are here Liz LizAndrsn: Must be a good sale or two I don't know ab out LOL TattingBina: I think Carolyn may join us she is on AKTATTER: I have not seen those "saturn" shaped satin-wrapped ornaments before AKTATTER: great shape LizAndrsn: Oh, those are regular shaped -- I messed with photo shapes to fit TattingBina: ROFL LizAndrsn: I used odd sized ornaments -- since I usually don't put up a massive tree AKTATTER: oh you!! you hadme fooled LizAndrsn: Tiny ornaments need love too! TattingBina: do you have a image of Liz's finished doily outside the pdf file? AKTATTER: NO I don't think so. Liz did you send one? LizAndrsn: huh? No doily from me -- that i rememeber AKTATTER: Just the photo of Judi's TattingBina: HI Carolyn cfgtat: hi bina, Liz Georgia! cfgtat: is this it for class tonight? AKTATTER: hi ya Carolyn LizAndrsn: Hi Carolyn cfgtat: I'm still trying to download the last pdf file. AKTATTER: it is a long one AKTATTER: remember there is a trick to that AKTATTER: Bina you remember it? cfgtat: must be. I must be the last person on earth with dial-up internet! AKTATTER: no I'm stuck with it too now cfgtat: the right click and save as? TattingBina: Nope me too AKTATTER: yes right click TattingBina: yep cfgtat: I forgot to do that. TattingBina: dial up totally sucks AKTATTER: otherwise I would grow cobwebs waiting for it to download AKTATTER: totally cfgtat: I can get the low speed dsl here for $15 a month. I may have to switch! AKTATTER: my only other alternatice is smoke signals AKTATTER: and that makes it hard at night cfgtat: and when it's really windy. AKTATTER: lol TattingBina: LOL AKTATTER: ok let's the four od us sign in one last time AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM cfgtat: Carolyn Groves Frostburg, Md. mdtatter@yahoo.com LizAndrsn: Liz Anderson, Colorado Springs, CO lizandrsn@aol.com TattingBina: Bina Madden Everett WA tattingbina@gmail.com AKTATTER: THANKS ONE AND ALL FOR JOINING IN TONIGHT AKTATTER: LIZ TOOK ON A PROJECT THIS FALL LizAndrsn: Wow - I think that echoed AKTATTER: STUDYING A PATTERN BY JUDI BANASHEK AKTATTER: :) AKTATTER: JudiB doily http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/judibadvtatpg90doily.jpg AKTATTER: IF YOU HAVE PRINTED THAT OFF YOU CAN SEE THE ORIGINAL DOILY AKTATTER: IT HAS ALL RINGS AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: IT HAS SOME UNUSUAL PICOTS AKTATTER: i ASKED LIZ TO WORK UP A MODEL FOR THE CLASS AKTATTER: WHO KNEW WHAT A TANGLED WEB THIS WOULD BE AKTATTER: LIZ WHAT WERE THE FIRST PROBLEMS YOU ENCOUNTERED? LizAndrsn: Well, i tried to make this a 6-arm snowflake LizAndrsn: But it cupped mizerably AKTATTER: i WONDER IF IT COULD BECOME A "HAT" CROWN OR BONNET? LizAndrsn: When I returned to the 12 arms, it still cupped, but not as drastically AKTATTER: HATS ON MY MIND FOR NEXT YEAR'S WORKSHOPS AKTATTER: AH OK LizAndrsn: For a pencil, perhaps! cfgtat: do you think tension had something to do with it? AKTATTER: LOL AKTATTER: WELL LIZ PROBABLY GOT TENSE AS SHE WORKED ALONG AKTATTER: BUT SHE STARTED OUT OK I THINK LizAndrsn: I used a picot gauge -- which I never do LizAndrsn: Still had problems, and the gauge slowed me down AKTATTER: I WOULD THAT THOUGHT THOSE LITTLE RINGS WOULD MAKE IT NECESSARY TattingBina: they usually help with consistency AKTATTER: AND 6 DIFFERENT SIZES OF PICOTS! LizAndrsn: Ok, I admit I look at the picture more than pay attention to directions LizAndrsn: And wind the picots AKTATTER: ME TOO LizAndrsn: Make that "wing" it AKTATTER: OH I USE GAUGES cfgtat: sounds like what I do a lot! TattingBina: I use gauges only if absolutely necessary AKTATTER: THIS PATTERN NEEDED A "WING AND A PRAYER" cfgtat: I have 2 sets of gauges and never used them. TattingBina: pretty good at eyeballing LizAndrsn: The cupping stems mostly because the number of rings and/or stitches do not LizAndrsn: increase as you move to each progressing round TattingBina: but I always a guage when spacing rings in single shuttle work AKTATTER: IT WOULD BE IMPOSSIBLE TO AVOID CUPPING THEN cfgtat: sure sounds like it. AKTATTER: UNLESS THE THREAD BETWEEN RINGS IS ENORMOUS LENGTH LizAndrsn: I w onder if Judi didn't put it under a truck to flatten it foe the pic! AKTATTER: LOL WISH SHE WAS ONLINE SO i COULD ASK AKTATTER: I DO LIKE THE LOOK ACHIEVED IN THE OUTER RINGS THO cfgtat: it does look like it was really pulled hard. LizAndrsn: Still, as a ball cover, it works out ok AKTATTER: i AM AMAZED THAT IT CONVERTED TO THAT SO WELL TattingBina: or even a baglet beginner AKTATTER: OH BTW LizAndrsn: And the double picot on the last round, large ring, lends itself to all sorts of bead possibilities TattingBina: you can always add to the length AKTATTER: THE USE OF THAT CONTRASTING THREAD AKTATTER: T O SHOW WHICH ARE THE OUTER PICOTS WAS A GREAT IDEA LizAndrsn: Thanks - I kept getting confused AKTATTER: THE DOUBLE PICOT ON THE RED THREAD VERSION AKTATTER: MADE IT LOOK LIKE DOUBLE SWAG OF BEADS TattingBina: interesting AKTATTER: AND DID YOU GO THROUGH THE RED BEADS AGAIN TO "TIE " IT TO THE BOTTOM? LizAndrsn: It's actually 3 - I have a large bead in between the picot gap LizAndrsn: I threaded thru the single bead to attach to the bottom AKTATTER: WELL NEVER TOO MANY BEADS I SAY TattingBina: I agree LizAndrsn: Gaudy - if nothing else LOL cfgtat: absolutely. AKTATTER: THE VERSION IN WHITE ON THE SHINY BALL? AKTATTER: LARGER THREAD? LizAndrsn: I believe it's Cebelia 20 LizAndrsn: The red thread is Cebelia 30 AKTATTER: THE LARGER THREAD MADE IT LOOK MORE DENSE AND SEEMED TO CLING TO THE BALL MORE LizAndrsn: I moved the stitch counts to 6's instead of 4's when I worked with the smaller size threads LizAndrsn: Shiny balls are about the size of a plum. The satin balls are more like a tennis ball AKTATTER: aRE THERE ANY OTHER QUESTIONS FOR LIZ? TattingBina: very cute Liz LizAndrsn: Thnks cfgtat: nope. really nice ornaments. LizAndrsn: Fewer things to buy this year. AKTATTER: aLTHOUGHT THE TURN OUT TONIGHT IS SMALL, LIZ, THE IMPACT OF YOUR WORK IS ALREADY WIDELY FELT. LizAndrsn: May sign up to do model tatting next Christmas, too TattingBina: I am reminded of your mini heart ornaments Carolyn AKTATTER: i SOMETIMES THINK I SHOULD POST ALL THE EMAILS I GET AFTER A PATTERN GOES OUT AKTATTER: AND YOURS HAS ALREADY EXCITED SEVERAL TATTERS cfgtat: oh the heart on the glass? LizAndrsn: Wow - who knew?! TattingBina: yeppers cfgtat: I have a whole bunch of different shape glass ornaments that are just waiting for some sort of tatted cover. AKTATTER: THAT IS A GREAT IDEA LIZ, NEXT YEAR WE NEED A GARLAND OF PEARL TATTED CHAIN WITH SMALL TATTED SNOWFLAKES HANGING FROM IT LizAndrsn: I'll get on it -- after the reindeer fly AKTATTER: THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR DOING ALL THIS WORK FOR US. AKTATTER: :) cfgtat: I've also found some really cute colored glass mini ornaments at Dollar General. they are screaming for a small tatted cover. LizAndrsn: :) TattingBina: great job Liz LizAndrsn: Yup - I used small one from DollarTree for mine AKTATTER: MANY THANKS TO JUDI BANASHEK FOR GRANTING PREMISSION TO USE PATTERNS FROM HER BOOK LizAndrsn: Shall we try this again tomorrow? TattingBina: Dollar stores are great to find mini ornaments cfgtat: Dollar Tree had some!?!? I better get in there and check it out! AKTATTER: ADVANCED TATTING IN THE ONLINE TATTING CLASS LizAndrsn: I cut mine off a garland AKTATTER: YES WE WILL REPEAT IT TOMORROW AKTATTER: DONNA HAMBY ALSO PREPARED A LESSON FOR US AKTATTER: IT IS A PROJECT TO SHOW LizAndrsn: Cool - I look forward to that AKTATTER: HOW NEALRY ANY TATTED EDGING OR PATTERN AKTATTER: CAN BE ADAPTED FOR A HOLIDAY ORNAMENT AKTATTER: DONNA USED A PATTERN OF ROGER'S AKTATTER: THAT IS QUITE TRADITIONAL IN NATURE AKTATTER: ADN MANAGED A VERY ATTRACTIVE GLASS ORNAMENT FOR US TO TRY OU cfgtat: I liked that one too. have several of those glass ornaments. AKTATTER: MY ONLY SUGGESTION WOULD BE TO LEAVE OFF THE MIDDLE RED RIBBON AKTATTER: AND DANGLE SOME OF HER LITTLE FLOWERS DOWN INSIDE cfgtat: yes it sorta takes away from the tatting. AKTATTER: TO FILL THE OPEN SPACE BETWEEN TOP AND BOTTOM TattingBina: ribbon is a bit wide TattingBina: maybe thinner ribbon AKTATTER: BUT MANY THANKS TO HER AND ROGER AND ETATTERS FOR MAKING THAT PATTERN AVAILABLE TO US cfgtat: I like the way it lookw with light coming through it. AKTATTER: YES AND IF A LIGHT WERE CLOSE TO IT AKTATTER: OR EVEN IN IT WOUL DBE EVEN GREATER AKTATTER: THE POSSIBILITES ARE AS EVER WITH TATTING ENDLESS LizAndrsn: :) AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS? cfgtat: nope. LizAndrsn: I'm good TattingBina: nope I am good AKTATTER: tHIS IS THE LAST MEETING IN THIS CLASSROOM cfgtat: thanks so much liz. LizAndrsn: My absolute pleasure AKTATTER: MYRTLE'S PLACE IS NOW OFFICIALLY CLOSED. LizAndrsn: Merry Christmas, Myrtle and all TattingBina: Merry Christmas and please be safe out there:) AKTATTER: AS EVER THE CLASS WOULD NOT HAVE BEEN POSSIBLE WITHOUT AL LTHE VOLUNTEERS TO HELP cfgtat: merry christmas! AKTATTER: TAKE CARE ALL HAPPY HOLIDAYS HAPPY TATTING AKTATTER: AND GOOD NIGHT LizAndrsn: Good night -- see you next year TattingBina: ciao all AKTATTER: :)