Rietsurtel: Hi All craftyshuttle: Hello Everyone ginnylee435: Hi Everyone AKTATTER: Hi riet I see email from you in the box hi ginny Gloria! craftyshuttle: How are you Riet this morning? Rietsurtel: Georgia how are you and the weather craftyshuttle: Yes, how much do you have Georgia? AKTATTER: 7 degrees but was sunny today; nothing as bad as Alaska so far AKTATTER: flooding is still widespread but we can still drive out of the lane so we are ok craftyshuttle: Good. AKTATTER: just enoug snow so we can track the deer, poosums and birds in it AKTATTER: possums sorry Rietsurtel: I a, fine, slept from 10 oclock in the evening until 2 in the morning was tires bui qant to go to class craftyshuttle: It is suppose to be down to about 16 in Tennessee tonight. AKTATTER: that is great that you can join us so late at night for you Riet AKTATTER: we are getting a few tatters at the Mon afternoon/ mid-evening time slot for you too now Rietsurtel: yes , Georgia open my mail please AKTATTER: gloria do you have an abalone thread winder? AKTATTER: ok i will craftyshuttle: No, I do not. craftyshuttle: I finally had to quite collecting......the expense was out weighing my income. he he craftyshuttle: When I lost my husband, I also lost part of the monthly income. Rietsurtel: Don't you got pension when your husband dies craftyshuttle: Yes, Riet, I get part of what he was drawing, but not as much as he was. Rietsurtel: o ofcourse craftyshuttle: I always depended upon him to pay the bills, now that is my responsiblity.......and they must come first. he he OnlineHost: AJtat has entered the room. craftyshuttle: I was finally able to get the homework website. craftyshuttle: How is your weather in the Netherlands, Riet? Rietsurtel: yeh I know AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/rietbunny.jpg AKTATTER: wellone thing about collecting, gloria is that eventually you can begin selling some Rietsurtel: we have at this moment some cold and in the night it is freezing AKTATTER: I've been doing that with my stamp collection to help out nowthat we are rtired too AKTATTER: disposable income isn't what it used to be lol craftyshuttle: That is the trouble, Georgia, I do not want to sell any...... AKTATTER: ah that is hard parting with our "babies" so to speak Rietsurtel: But you can live verry well with almost nothing as I had to do craftyshuttle: My heirs mention the possibility of selling them when I am gone, I will not know. craftyshuttle: At least they do not take us as much space as some collections. Rietsurtel: where are all te stidents OnlineHost: Jtvandersl has entered the room. Rietsurtel: students OnlineHost: Tjneudorf has entered the room. AKTATTER: yes Riet we can all make do with a lot less AKTATTER: welcome tina AKTATTER: hi ya terry Tjneudorf: hi there Jtvandersl: hello AKTATTER: hi Anna jean Rietsurtel: when you have to, just like me it is a sport to be happy with almost nothing AJtat: Hi, I have been tatting cluny leaves like crazy. Love em. AKTATTER: the lesson for tonight http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/barkertrio.html Rietsurtel: hi Tina and Terry Tjneudorf: Hi Riet OnlineHost: cfgtat has entered the room. Rietsurtel: hallo cfgtat: hello everyone. AJtat: Riet, I like your bunny homework. So colorful. cfgtat: We are finally getting some snow!! OnlineHost: Tugboatannie1962 has entered the room. Rietsurtel: yes do you thank you is a bunny a hare? Tugboatannie1962: I made it AKTATTER: wow anna I am glad to hear that Mimi's lessons are always inspirational AKTATTER: you can have all of my snow!! Rietsurtel: welcome annie Tugboatannie1962: hi Tjneudorf: we just got dumped on too and you are welcome to have it all AJtat: I found a bookmark of Mimi's with cluny that I am practicing on. AKTATTER: the open chat continues for 3 more minutes AKTATTER: lol I know that feeling Tina. I am so glad to be here in Illinois now! Tugboatannie1962: Just had two more newbies this week OnlineHost: popawho has entered the room. Tjneudorf: we only have it for a week or so and thats long enough for me Rietsurtel: hi Pop AKTATTER: we went to town to get groceries with snow all around us and I realized how happy I was not to be afraid that I might freeze to death just getting groceries! Tjneudorf: it started to rain so it will be gone soon AKTATTER: newbies!! that's great popawho: Thanks Gloria craftyshuttle: Jane, I must have done something wrong. I could never get lionlam40 to work. AKTATTER: the lesson for tonight http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2005/barkertrio.html craftyshuttle: AS you know, computers and I do not get along. AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/rietbunny.jpg Riet's homework of the bunny edging just in! popawho: lionlamb is aim express craftyshuttle: You made it to class, anyway. Tjneudorf: very nice bunny edge Tjneudorf: I like that craftyshuttle: I liked the crisscross picots. OnlineHost: Clunymimi has entered the room. Rietsurtel: hi Mimi Clunymimi: Hello all! Ok, so what was this about me?? :-) AKTATTER: there'e mimi!! Anna Jean has been making clunies Mimi :) Clunymimi: She has? That's great! AKTATTER: Anna what was it you were working Mimi's bookmark? popawho: Crisscross picots are very interesting AJtat: Mimi, I am clunying all over the place. I have several about 10 inch long cluny chains. AJtat: And then the Dianna bookmark. Clunymimi: My goodness! 10-in chains straight to the Dianna bookmark? THat bookmark is quite advanced! Clunymimi: Excellent work! Rietsurtel: don't you dream clunnies now Clunymimi: By the way, chains of clunies can be used like coronation cord. AJtat: How well I know. Adding in that extra shuttle is something. popawho: John is calling me, be right back Clunymimi: But you run out of the cord really fast!! OnlineHost: JMMAcademy has entered the room. Rietsurtel: where can I find that bookmark please AKTATTER: chains of clunies???? coronation cord??? oh my the mind boggles at the thought AJtat: And keeping the split ring open while you work on the cluny is hard. Clunymimi: I'll look Riet. BRB AKTATTER: LET'S GET STARTED AKTATTER: PLEASE SIGN IN Clunymimi: http://home.netcom.com/~ntrop/mimi/dianna.html craftyshuttle: Gloria Zaugg, Winchester, TN gzaugg@vallnet.com AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ GREENUP ILLINOIS AKTATTER@AOL.COM OnlineHost: LizAndrsn has entered the room. Jtvandersl: Terry Vanderslice The Woodlands TX AKTATTER: HI LIZ, I FINALLY GOT A LOON AT THE NEW MUNOZ BOOKLET AKTATTER: LOOK LizAndrsn: Evening Clunymimi: Mimi Dillman, Snohomish, WA, ntropATix.netcom.com LizAndrsn: How is it? AJtat: Anna Jean Phillips, Memphis, TN ajtat@aol.com OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. LizAndrsn: Liz Anderson, Colorado Springs, CO cfgtat: Carolyn Groves Frostburg, Md. Tugboatannie1962: Cheryl Birch Springfield, OR USA ginnylee435: Ginny Weathers Auburn NEw York JMMAcademy: Hannah Moad Springfield, MO JMMAcademy@aol.com AKTATTER: 6 PG LEAFLET COLOR PHOTO ON FRONT AKTATTER: HANNAH HOW NICE TO SEE YOU HERE Tugboatannie1962: sorry it won't take my email address OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. JMMAcademy: Thanks good to be here cfgtat: wouldn't take mine either. OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. ginnylee435: mine either AKTATTER: WELL THE LESSON IS OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. AKTATTER: HMM Rietsurtel: Thank you Mimi for the bookmark AKTATTER: WELL AOL STRIKES AGAIN OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. AKTATTER: WWW AKTATTER: GEORGIASEITZ AKTATTER: .COM AKTATTER: /2005 AKTATTER: /BARKERTRIO.HTML AKTATTER: JAN. 16/17, 2005 OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. AKTATTER: the first homework is in already from riet AKTATTER: www AKTATTER: georgiaseitz.com AKTATTER: /homework AKTATTER: /rietbunny.jpg AKTATTER: everyone still there?? ginnylee435: i am here still AJtat: Yes AKTATTER: OK AOL ISBEING WEIRD cfgtat: I'm still here. AKTATTER: BUT LET'S GO ON Clunymimi: Riets bunnies are too cute!! Clunymimi: How about JK's for the tails? Rietsurtel: Riet Surtel Tilburg Holland r.surtel#home.nl AKTATTER: YES THEY ARE CUTE AS A "BUNNY" LOL AKTATTER: OH THAT IS A GOOD IDEA OnlineHost: jeanies202 has entered the room. AKTATTER: WELCOME JEANIE popawho: Signing in: Jane Poparad Tullahoma TN Rietsurtel: I replaced @ for # that works OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. Clunymimi: And of course the JK's need to be white (3rd shuttle, sorry) OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. AKTATTER: GEORGIASEITZ.COM AKTATTER: /2002 AKTATTER: /JK/jk.html AKTATTER: OR MAYBE PUT WHITE BEADS ON THE TAIL RING???? AKTATTER: OR MAYBE USE FLY FISHING THREAD THAT IS FUZZY WHITE Clunymimi: You bet! Or what about beads under the green ring to be like Easter eggs he's just hidden? craftyshuttle: That's an idea. OnlineHost: jlathemtx has entered the room. AKTATTER: OH EXCELLENT!!!! OnlineHost: jlathemtx has left the room. OnlineHost: jlathemtx has entered the room. AKTATTER: WELCOME JIM Rietsurtel: You can put in picots and cut and made them dlossy AKTATTER: YES FRAYED PICOTS LIKE ELGIVA NICHOLS DID! jlathemtx: Hello. Jim from Wills Point AKTATTER: WELCOME BACK JIM Rietsurtel: Can you tell me is a bunny the same as a hare AKTATTER: THANKS FOR YOUR MESSAGES ON THE ALPHA NUMERIC THINGY AKTATTER: YES RIET, BUNNY = HARE, BUT HARE IS WILD AKTATTER: AND A WILD HARE IS NOT THE SAME AS A WILD HAIR OnlineHost: Tjneudorf has left the room. craftyshuttle: Where is Wills Point?: Clunymimi: :-) AKTATTER: OK LET'S TAKE A LOOK AT THE LESSON AKTATTER: /2005/BARKERTRIO.HTML AKTATTER: AS YOU HAVE READ OnlineHost: LizAndrsn has left the room. jlathemtx: CraftyShuttle, go east from Dallas about 60 milles. AKTATTER: I AM MISSING THE DATE INFO ON THE PAGE craftyshuttle: Thanks. AKTATTER: IF ANYONE RECOGNIZES IT PLEAS LET ME KNOW FOR THE RECORD OnlineHost: LizAndrsn has entered the room. AKTATTER: THESE ARE ALL SIMPLE LOOKING EDGINGS AKTATTER: WB LIZ AKTATTER: BUT THEY EACH PRESENT PROBLEMS FOR THE UNWARY TATTER craftyshuttle: So true. AKTATTER: WINDOW EDGING #1 LizAndrsn: Thnx AKTATTER: DIAGRAM #1 AKTATTER: THAT SHOWS THIS EDGING DONE IN TWO PASSES AKTATTER: THE TINY RINGS HAVE 3 PICOTS AKTATTER: BUT THEY DO NOT JOIN TO EACH OTHER AKTATTER: WHAT PROBLEM DOES THIS PRESENT?? ANY GUESSES?? Clunymimi: Twisting? Flopping? AKTATTER: ABOSLUTELY CORRECT! craftyshuttle: That is my guess. jlathemtx: When you are doing picots, what is the length of the space you create? How do you keep them consistent? AKTATTER: THESE UNCONNECTED RINGS WILL FLOPPY ALL OVER THE PLACE AKTATTER: JIM CREATING PICOTS IS A GOOD QUESTION AKTATTER: SOMETIMES YOU CAN JUST EYEBALL THEM AKTATTER: BUT IN MANY CASES AKTATTER: YOU NEED TO MEASURE THEM AKTATTER: YOU CAN USE A PICOT GUAGE AKTATTER: CUT FROM CARDBOARD WOOD OR PLASTIC AKTATTER: OR THESE DAYS AKTATTER: WE ARE BEGINNING TO INCORPORATE A DIFFERENT METHOD AKTATTER: OF MEASURING INTO OUR TATTING AKTATTER: YOU WILL NOTICE NOW AKTATTER: INSTRUCTIONS THAT SAY AKTATTER: MAKE A PICOT WHOSE LENGTH = 2 DS Tugboatannie1962: I've used a knitting needle the ones for doing socks or gloves AKTATTER: SO YOU LOOK TO USE HOW MUCH SPACE TWO DOUBLE STITCHES TAKE UP AKTATTER: AND MATCH THAT FOR THE PICOT Rietsurtel: that is what Ben goes and we are doing now in our guild AKTATTER: THAT IS A GOOD TOOL FOR MEASURING ANNIE, ALSO A TAPESTRY NEEDLE AKTATTER: I THINK MAKING THE SIZE OF THE PICOT AKTATTER: RLEATIVE TO AKTATTER: THE SIZE OF THE DS Clunymimi: Me too Cheryl. Small diameter knitting needles work great (tatting needles do too) AKTATTER: IS A GREAT ADVANCEMENT AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT THE CHAIN ON THE THIS FIRST PASS OF THE EDGING Clunymimi: It is indeed, Georgia, helps take some of the guessowrk out. Rietsurtel: you can than tat with all kind off threas isn't it LizAndrsn: Helps take into account thread size, too AKTATTER: NOTICE IN THE OLD PHOTO jlathemtx: Is the length of the picot the size of the DS after it is pushed together or while it is spread apart. AKTATTER: RIGHT GOOD POINTS ALL OF THEM AKTATTER: THE SIZE OF THE DS = THE LENGTH OF THE "CAP" OR BAR OR THE DS AKTATTER: IN THE OLD PHOTO THE CHAIN IS SCALLOPED Rietsurtel: you say that in the pattern vertical or horizontal AKTATTER: AND HAS A PICOT MID WAY AKTATTER: HORIZONTAL AKTATTER: SO TAT THE 5 DS AKTATTER: THEN SNUG UP THE DS AKTATTER: THIS FORCES A CURVE INTO THE WORK AKTATTER: MAKE THE PICOT AND THEN CHAIN 5 AGAIN AKTATTER: SUNG UP THE DS BEFORE YOU MAKE THE NEXT RING AKTATTER: NOW TELL ME WHAT PROBLEM WE FACE AT THE END OF THE EDGING?? AKTATTER: IF IT IS A CIRCLE AND WE MEET THE FRONT WE JUST START THE SECOND PASS Tugboatannie1962: the turn around AKTATTER: BUT IF IT IS A STRAIGHT EDGING AKTATTER: RIGHT THE TURN AROUND Rietsurtel: how do you get the two bows or is that comming after the second row AKTATTER: IF THE TINY RING IS OUR GUIDE FOR THE "FRONT" SIDE OnlineHost: ginnylee435 has left the room. AKTATTER: BOWS??? Rietsurtel: chains sorry AKTATTER: RIGHT RIET THE CHAINS ARE THE START OF THE SECOND PASS Rietsurtel: two gurves? Rietsurtel: curves AKTATTER: SO TO GET THE CAPS OF THE DS ON THE OUTERS IDE OF TEH CHAINS AKTATTER: RIET DO YOU MEAN PERHAPS, THE CHAIN ON THE FIRST ROW IN GREEN? Rietsurtel: yes AKTATTER: HOW IT GETS A "BOW" OR "SCALLOP"? AKTATTER: TO GET THE "BOW" INTO THE GREENCHAIN AKTATTER: TAT 5 THEN SNUG UP THE CHAIN Rietsurtel: yes i understand 1 scallop but two AKTATTER: SNUG UP = COMPRESS THE DS BACK TO THE LEFT AKTATTER: THEN MAKE THE PICOT AKTATTER: CHAIN 5 AGAIN AKTATTER: THEN SNUG UP AGAIN BEFORE YOU DO THE NEXT RING AKTATTER: OK?? Rietsurtel: yes but after the picot it is still 1 scallop i think AKTATTER: YES EACH SEGMENT OF THE CHAIN = ONE SCALLOP AKTATTER: OK THE SECOND PASS AKTATTER: ON STRAIGHT EDGING AKTATTER: YOU HAVE TO TURN THE WORK OVER AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: IF THE TINY RINGS = FRONT SIDE AKTATTER: THEN YOU HAVE TO ORDER THE CHAINS AKTATTER: IN REVERSE HALF STITCH ORDER AKTATTER: NOTETHE SECOND ROUNG CHAINS AKTATTER: JOIN TO EACH OTHER HIGH UP ON THE CHAIN AKTATTER: SO MAKE THAT PICOT A MERE BUMP AKTATTER: YOU WANT IT TIGHT TOGETHER AKTATTER: THESE BIG CHAINS HAVE 3 PICOTS AKTATTER: THE ONE IN MIDDLE A LITTLE BIGGER LOOKS GOOD AKTATTER: THEN THE CHAINS AKTATTER: JOIN TO THE FIRST ROUND AKTATTER: YOU CAN USE THE TRADITIOANL SHUTTLE LOCK JOIN AKTATTER: BUT YOU MIGHT THINK ABOUT USING THE LHPJ AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE FIRS EDGING??? craftyshuttle: You are saying to do the last half of the ds, then the first half ? AKTATTER: RIGHT GLORIA craftyshuttle: Thanks, popawho: what is LHPJ? AKTATTER: LARK'S HEAD PICOT JOIN = MAKES IT LOOK LIKE A REGULAR DS INSTEAD OF A LUMP popawho: Left hand picot join? AKTATTER: LINK IS INCLUDED TO PREVIOUS LESSON ON LHPJ popawho: well I was close. AKTATTER: BUNNY EDGING #2 craftyshuttle: We will have to look there Jane. AKTATTER: LOL YOU SURE WERE! AKTATTER: DIAGRAM #1 popawho: ok crafty AKTATTER: THE BUNNY EDGING! AKTATTER: RIET YOU DID A GREAT JOB ON THE HOMEWORK :) AKTATTER: EARLIER THERE WERE SUGGESTIONS ON IMPOROVING THIS PATTERN Rietsurtel: thanks AKTATTER: THE TINY RING FOR THE TAIL AKTATTER: COULD WELL BE A JOSEPHINE KNOT AKTATTER: OR A THIRD COLOR INTRODUCED , I.E, WHITE LizAndrsn: Good idea! AKTATTER: OR WHITE BEADS ON TAIL/RING AKTATTER: YOU WILL SEE RIGHT OFF AKTATTER: THAT AT LEAST 2 SHUTTLES ARE REQUIRED FOR THIS AKTATTER: WHAT GIVES US THE CLUE?? craftyshuttle: The head on the body of the bunny. Clunymimi: Ring off chain. Rietsurtel: the green cabbage in my edging is not a ring craftyshuttle: What is it Riet? AKTATTER: IS IT A SCMR?? Rietsurtel: SCMR AKTATTER: RIGHT MIMI, THE CHAIN THAT FORMS THE BODY THROWS OFF ANOTHER RING Tugboatannie1962: good guess g AKTATTER: SO YOU NEED THE SECOND SHUTTLE Rietsurtel: otherwise you can't do the join from mark AKTATTER: ALSO LOOK AT THE "NECK" AKTATTER: YOU CAN SEE THE THREADS FROMT HE SECOND SHUTTLE LizAndrsn: Mock picot AKTATTER: RIGHT RIET AKTATTER: DIAGRAM #2 AKTATTER: SHOWS THE DS COUNT AKTATTER: ANS IT SHOWS THE ORIGINAL PATTERN AKTATTER: DID NOT JOIN THE BUNNY AND THE CABBAGE TOGETHER AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: AS RIET MENTIONED AKTATTER: IF YOU DO THIS AS A SCMR AKTATTER: THENN YOU CAN PRACTICE THE INVERTED TATTING JOIN AS RECENTLY STUDIED AKTATTER: ANY QUESTIONS ON THE BUNNY EDING?? Rietsurtel: and the edging is stronger AKTATTER: RIGHT RIET THE OVERALL CONSTRUCTION IS IMPOROVED AKTATTER: OK AKTATTER: CRISS CROSS EDGING #3 AKTATTER: MANY TATTERS HAVE COMMENTED ON THE GREAT BOOKTMARK YOU DID RECENTLY RIET AKTATTER: BUT IT SCARES OFF A LOT OF NEWER TATTERS AKTATTER: THIS SIMPLER EDGING WILL HELP US PRACTICE Rietsurtel: wich bookmark AKTATTER: AND BECOME USED TO THE IDEA OF INTERWOVEN PICOTS AKTATTER: THE INTERWOVEN PICOTS LINK = CROSSED PICOTS LizAndrsn: You mean tatting isn't a Kamakazee event? AKTATTER: DIAGRAM #1 popawho: looks complicated but I'm always up for a challenge AKTATTER: LOL LIZ NOPE!! SOME OF US NEED A "NET" PUN INTENDED Rietsurtel: oooo I understand reading the pattern is difficult but when you do it it shows itself AKTATTER: IT JUST TAKES THOUGHT AKTATTER: AFTER ONE OR TWO REPEAT IT WILL BECOME AUTOMATIC AKTATTER: RIGHT RIET AKTATTER: OK THIS PATTERN BEGINS AKTATTER: WITH A LONG CHAIN WITH PICOTS AKTATTER: SECOND ROUND AKTATTER: IS ALL CHAINS AKTATTER: BUT HERE THE PICOTS NEED TO BE MEASURED AKTATTER: JIM YOU WILLNEED A GAUGE TO KEEP THEM AKTATTER: THE RIGHT SIZE AKTATTER: OK THE TWO SIDE PICOTS ARE LONGONES craftyshuttle: I would say especially the long ones. AKTATTER: THE ONEPICOT IN THE CENTER IS JUST A SMALL ONE craftyshuttle: Any suggestion as to the length? craftyshuttle: Size 20 thread? AKTATTER: RIGHT GLORIA YOU MIGHT NEED OVER 2 INCHES DEPENDING ON THE THREAD SIZE AKTATTER: ONLY WAY TO BE ABSOLUTELY CERTAIN Rietsurtel: I did the bunnies in # 80 AKTATTER: IS TO DO ONE SAMPLE REPEAT craftyshuttle: OK AKTATTER: ONCE YOU DETERMIN WHAT WORKS STICK WITH THAT ALL TH E WAY AKTATTER: OK ROUND THREE AKTATTER: AGAIN ALL CHAIN WORK AKTATTER: SHUTTLE LOCK JOINS TO THE CENTER PICOT OF ROUND 2 AKTATTER: THEN PULL OVER THE LONG PICOT FROM THE "NEXT" CHAIN AKTATTER: NOT THE ADJACENT PICOT AKTATTER: JOINTO IT AND CONTINUE TO CHAIN AKTATTER: SNUG UP THE CHAIN BEFORE EACH JOIN AKTATTER: THEN YOU MAKE THE CHAIN WITH THE 3 PICOTS AKTATTER: AGAIN, WITH A SET OF 3 THE MIDDLE LARGER ALWAYS LOOKS GOOD AKTATTER: NOW THE NEXT JOIN AKTATTER: PULL OVER THE LONG PICOT FROM THE PREVIOUSE ROUND 2 CHAIN AKTATTER: AND THAT IS THE WAY YOU GO AKTATTER: NOW HOW CAN WE TAT THIS WITHOUT CUTTING THE THREAD?? Rietsurtel: i think take care you do it always over or always under craftyshuttle: For anyone who does not like to tat chains, this is not the project, is it? craftyshuttle: I would say with split chains & split rings. AKTATTER: RIGHT GLORIA ALL CHAINS HERE AKTATTER: RIGHT AGQAIN GLORIA AKTATTER: CLIMB OUT OF ROUND 1 INTO ROUND 2 WITH A SPLIT RING AKTATTER: NOTEDIN PURPLE ON THE DIAGRAM LizAndrsn: mock picot rnd1 to rnd 2 AKTATTER: THEN CLIMB FROM ROUND 2 TO ROUND 3 MAKING A SPLIT CHAIN AKTATTER: AND THEN EXITING THRU THE SPLIT RING AKTATTER: BUT AKTATTER: WTACH OUT AKTATTER: WATCH OUT Rietsurtel: split ring???? AKTATTER: OOPS MY MISTAKE!! AKTATTER: YES THAT FIRST ONE IS A MOCK PICOT Rietsurtel: ok thanks AKTATTER: PLEASE CORRECT THAT ON YOUR NOTES OF THE LESSONS AKTATTER: LAST PARAGRAPH AKTATTER: FIRST MENTION OF SPLIT RING SHOULD BE MOCK PICOT AKTATTER: OK ANY QUESTIONS ON CRISS CROSSING ?? AKTATTER: I HOPE YOU WIL AL TRY IT OUT Rietsurtel: and the second one also isn't it? AKTATTER: YES BOTH PLACES RIET AKTATTER: I AM SO ACCUSTOMED TO WRITING SPLIT RING AND SPLIT CHAIN TO GETHER IT IS A HABIT I GUESS Rietsurtel: there is another problem in my bunnies AKTATTER: PROBLEM RIET? Rietsurtel: to make it after the tail of the bunnie your thread is on the wrong side AKTATTER: AH WHAT SHOULD WE DO ?? AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html craftyshuttle: I hate to ask this stupid question, but Georgia how did you know about Riet's homework? I have enjoyed this lesson best of all, so far. Rietsurtel: when you rant the chain in the same color. so i did s SLT and then brought the green thread over the chain and the browh thread under Clunymimi: Gasp...not another shuttle? AKTATTER: SO HAPPY TO HEAR YOU ARE ENJOYING THE LESSON GLORIA AKTATTER: EVERYONE IS ENCOURAGE TO SEND IN THEIR HOMEWORK craftyshuttle: by US mail ? AKTATTER: RIET'S GOT HERE JUST BEFORE CLASS AND i HAVE POSTED IT TO THE HOMEWORK FILE Clunymimi: I can see the SLT now. popawho: Me too! Rietsurtel: no bypicture AKTATTER: http:/www.georgiaseitz.com/homework/rietbunny.jpg Rietsurtel: or next time I bring it myself craftyshuttle: Thanks........I am such a computer idiot. craftyshuttle: That is the way, Riet...... AKTATTER: email is faster gloria, a scanner is agreat tool to use online Tugboatannie1962: even digital camer AKTATTER: good note about the slt riet, everyone please add that note to the lesson craftyshuttle: I finally gave my scanner away.....I could never figure out how to use it. AKTATTER: bring your shuttles anytime riet:) Rietsurtel: o that is a pitty AKTATTER: DIGITAL CAMERA SO HELPFUL TOO AKTATTER: OK THAT IS ALL I HAVE FOR TONIGHT AKTATTER: I DO HAVE A PROBLEM THO AKTATTER: I JUST REALIZED THIS WEEKEND Rietsurtel: yes i am looking forward to june than i am comming Tugboatannie1962: thanks g AKTATTER: THAT SUPERBOWL SUNDAY IS COMING UP popawho: Thank you AK craftyshuttle: I had two people to hook it up: one amateur and one professional.......but both times I could never print any emails. AKTATTER: WE NEED A SUPERBOWL SUNDAY SNOWFLAKE!! craftyshuttle: So what are you suggesting? popawho: I think I actually learned something tonight Rietsurtel: when is that super ball jlathemtx: Please excuse my clarification question. AKTATTER: AH GLORIA SCANNER AND PRINTER SOMETIMES ARE ONE MACHINE BUT SOMETIMES NOT OnlineHost: cfgtat has left the room. AKTATTER: HEY POP I AMDELIGHTED TOHEAR THAT craftyshuttle: Mine was not.l Clunymimi: What about a Pro Bowl of Superbowl Sunday Snowflakes? So many are real classics but may not have been seen by some of the class. jlathemtx: Here goes. I find a needle that has the diameter of two double stitches. AKTATTER: OK JIM GO FOR IT AKTATTER: I THINK THE LAST SUNDAY OF JAN OR FIRST SUNDAY OF FEB RIET craftyshuttle: Normally, last Sunday in Jan. AKTATTER: MIMI THAT IS INSPIRED!! AKTATTER: OKPROBLEM SOLVED! Rietsurtel: and that is amsrican football? AKTATTER: RIGHT RIET jlathemtx: I make a picot. I push the picot so it makes a loop. Clunymimi: When in doubt, check the archive :-)) Rietsurtel: there is a shuttle from Mark jlathemtx: Then do I push the needle through the loop of the picot? popawho: Super Bowl is FEb 6th AKTATTER: ARE YOU NEEDLE TATTING OR SHUTTLE TATTING?? AKTATTER: THANKS POP! jlathemtx: Needle tatting. craftyshuttle: Mimi, Sweetie, that is easy for some, but for me finding an archive is a nightmare. AKTATTER: OK THEN YOU NEED TO USE A GAUGE OnlineHost: popawho has left the room. LizAndrsn: There was a Celtic snowflake contest winner from 3+ years ago that doesn't show in the archives... AKTATTER: LAID ACROSS THE TATTING NEEDLE AT AKTATTER: A 90 DEGREE ANGLE AKTATTER: OH LIZ HAS IT FALLEN OFF? i'LL CHECK IT PLEASE SEND ME EMAIL REMINDER LizAndrsn: ok jlathemtx: Ok. I think I finally have it. The height of the picot from the edge of the needle to the top of the picot is the diameter of the needle. Right? Clunymimi: That's okay, crafty, Georgia knows how. AKTATTER: THIS GAUGE LAID ACROSS THE NEEDLE PHYSICALLY PREVENTS AKTATTER: THE "PICOT" LOOP OF THREAD FROM BEING CLOSED ANY FARTHER AKTATTER: LEAVE IT THERE Rietsurtel: http://www.tat-man.net/ftballpat.html AKTATTER: UNTIL YOU COMPLETE THE SECOND HALF STITCH AKTATTER: THEN REMOVE THE GAUGE AKTATTER: AND PUSH THE PICOT OVER TO TOUCH THE LAST DS MADE AKTATTER: THAT SHOULD DO IT FOR YOU JIM craftyshuttle: Good night, all and thanks Georgia. OnlineHost: craftyshuttle has left the room. AKTATTER: RIGHT JIM AKTATTER: NIGHT GLORIA jeanies202: Thanks AK and Good-night all Jtvandersl: sorry, I ended up with a phone call, night AKTATTER: AH THE FOOTBALL PATTERN TAHT IS GREAT Rietsurtel: good night OnlineHost: jeanies202 has left the room. AKTATTER: OKTHIS LESSON REPEATS MONDAY AT 3pm AND 8:30pm et (nEW yORK TIME) AKTATTER: THANKS TO AL LFOR STOPPING BY! Rietsurtel: meaby you can use it in a snowstat? Clunymimi: Thanks Georgia! Tugboatannie1962: bye thanks georgia, later jlathemtx: Thanks to everyone for their help. Have a great week. AJtat: Thanks for a good lesson. Good night. AKTATTER: RIGHT RIET MINIGHT MIMI GLAD TO SEE YOU AGAIN ANNIE LizAndrsn: Oh that Mark! JMMAcademy: thanks for a great class AKTATTER: KEEP UP THE GOOD CLUNIES ANNA OnlineHost: Tugboatannie1962 has left the room. OnlineHost: Jtvandersl has left the room. Rietsurtel: georgia thanks i am going back to bed good night all AKTATTER: HANNAH TAKE CARE AKTATTER: BYE TERRY AJtat: Gotta learn something new all the time. AKTATTER: SLEEP WELL RIET AKTATTER: :) GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING ALL