Dntats4u: It is in the Mid-West, below the great lakes AKTATTER: hello all! LizAndrsn: Dorcas, a couple years ago I purchased tatting patterns from a lady that met LizAndrsn: you in an air port, and had kept your email addy AKTATTER: Riet, you are such a sweetheart, I got mypresent on Sat. :) Rietsurtel: O yes I se I flow over you last year I think LizAndrsn: I passed it along to Georgia, and the rest is history :) Dntats4u: who was that? The jr. High girl I taught to tat at O'Hare? LizAndrsn: No - just a Seller on eBay. Rietsurtel: o is it arived that is fine Dntats4u: wonder who it was? OnlineHost: GilmaBSB has entered the room. LizAndrsn: I remember that she has vintage sterling shuttles, but never learns and wouldn't part with her shuttles LOL GilmaBSB: Hi, girls! LizAndrsn: Hi Gilma OnlineHost: AJtat has entered the room. Rietsurtel: hi Gilmsa GilmaBSB: Hi, Liz Rietsurtel: sorry Gilma GilmaBSB: Hi, Riet, good you are here! Dntats4u: Oh, I'll bet it is that lady in Florida, I think she has a catalogue and sells stuff and she has pictures of vintage lacemaking equipment but won't sell it, just new stuff OnlineHost: MousemicW has entered the room. Rietsurtel: Hi Mouse MousemicW: hi all LizAndrsn: Beans! Old, used shuttles know the way to tat -- just put them in the right hands MousemicW: how are you riet Dntats4u: I know OnlineHost: CricketLacer7 has entered the room. TattingBina: Hi all LizAndrsn: Bina babe! GilmaBSB: I love those aero shuttles, very easy to work with MousemicW: hi bina GilmaBSB: hi, Bina OnlineHost: Clunymimi has entered the room. CricketLacer7: Thanks teacher, Hi everyone. I missed ya. Clunymimi: Good evening all. LizAndrsn: Mimi - hi GilmaBSB: Hi, Mimi Rietsurtel: hi bina MousemicW: hi mimi OnlineHost: lillyslip has entered the room. Rietsurtel: I just bought an aero on ebay a real one with the name on it MousemicW: cool riet OnlineHost: TarStt has entered the room. AKTATTER: ok everybody in now?? AKTATTER: missing anyone GilmaBSB: I got 3 and 15 bobbins lol LizAndrsn: Viva la eBay! TarStt: I'm here Rietsurtel: yeh sometimes I allow myself to do that CricketLacer7: PRESENT LizAndrsn: Is Gina Brammet joing us tonight? GilmaBSB: I dont think they are too expensive lillyslip: I'm here TattingBina: hey Cricket I tried to send you email it bounced Rietsurtel: Girls I think I know a little bit of your feelings of 9-11 OnlineHost: TamTats has entered the room. lillyslip: or should say, Liz, I'm Gina LizAndrsn: My mistake - didn't recognize you there ;-) Rietsurtel: here in holland it is awfull at this moment , TarStt: what happened Riet? CricketLacer7: I got a new server so I'm not with AOL anymore. lillyslip: I know, all these pseudo names :-) AKTATTER: gina plans to behere Rietsurtel: A how do you call that the same as the boys who atacked your country mordered an artist OnlineHost: jeanies202 has entered the room. LizAndrsn: I once worked telemarketing with a lady who called herself "Sybell" TarStt: I'm so sorry to hear that. Rietsurtel: hi jeanny OnlineHost: Mm13131 has entered the room. jeanies202: Hi to you all GilmaBSB: terrible death for everywhere, so sorry about all the families! AKTATTER: how come riet what happened?? Rietsurtel: Yeh I think it is something going world wide, but there are still a lot of verry good poeple AKTATTER: oh yes I read about Van Gogh's murder by terrorists so sorry to hear it rriet AKTATTER: let's keep a good thoughtfor al lthose in harm's way today :) GilmaBSB: good people now a days are suffering under the terrorism Mm13131: Yes, Riet, so sorry for all those families Rietsurtel: It was Theo van Gogh a collumnist who wrote and said awfull things about the islam and now they murdered him AKTATTER: mimi i see your epic in the mailbox wow can't wait to get caught up on it AKTATTER: freedom of speech comes at an awful price sometimes Dntats4u: I'm sorry, Riet Rietsurtel: what is an ewpic GilmaBSB: Thanks God here in Brasil we don't have this, but criminals play ther caracters. AKTATTER: epic= magnum opus LizAndrsn: Prefer magnum champagne, AK LOL Rietsurtel: yes but I think freedom will also say to do it with respect GilmaBSB: How can they thing that God would be pleased with so much hate? AKTATTER: crime is rampant tooo but you know what, I have never known anyone who tatted or collected postage stamps who was a criminal nor a terrorists AKTATTER: maybe tatting and philately should be taught in sschools. Clunymimi: I hope it helps, Georgia. AKTATTER: magnum? wow you are really thirsty Rietsurtel: Or as my moeke said a person that loves animals can't be bad LizAndrsn: Well, I'd pass it around to my friends here AKTATTER: true riet!! and so many taters are cat people also Rietsurtel: will they beleef you Liz AKTATTER: ok we must get started now plet's sign in please AKTATTER: GEORGIA SEITZ AKTATTER@AOL.COM GREENUP ILLINOIS ginaBea1630: gina Butler in OKC www.ginabea.com AKTATTER: 11-14-04 LizAndrsn: Liz Anderson, Colorado Springs, CO Mm13131: Miriam Brown Waterloo, IA AJtat: Anna Jean Phillips, Memphis, TN (AJTat@aol.com) lillyslip: Gina Brummett, Lafayette, Indiana, rabrummett@purdue.edu jeanies202: Jeannie Schultz in Lewiston, NY GilmaBSB: Gilma Elias, Brasilia, Brasil gilmae@brturbo.com.br Dntats4u: Dorcas Newkirk, Evansville, IN, USA Dntats4u@aol.com Rietsurtel: riet surtel-smeulders from Tilburg Holland r.surtel@home.nl TarStt: Tara Hamilton Zebulon, NC tarstt@mindspring.com TattingBina: Bina Madden, Everett WA TattingBina@aol.com Rietsurtel: Hi Gina !!! TamTats: Tammy western NY state US TamTats at frontiernet dot net OnlineHost: MARKEI1234 has entered the room. Clunymimi: Mimi Dillman, Snohomish, wa Dntats4u: Gina, are you in the Lafayette Lacers? lillyslip: yes, I am OnlineHost: cfgtat has entered the room. lillyslip: we met yesterday in fact AKTATTER: GLAD TO SEE YOU ALLHERE TONIGHT AKTATTER: OUR LESSON OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. GAYL 101: gaylynn carter,, payson UT gayl101@aol.com AKTATTER: PRESENDTED BY GINA BRUMMET AKTATTER: WE WILL ALSO LOOK AT THE THREE FREE TATTING PATTERNS OnlineHost: jlathemtx has entered the room. OnlineHost: jlathemtx has left the room. OnlineHost: jlathemtx has entered the room. OnlineHost: jlathemtx has left the room. OnlineHost: jlathemtx has entered the room. AKTATTER: SHARED BY IRIS NIEBACH ON HER WEBISTE www.iristatting.com AKTATTER: OK JIM FASTENSEAT BELT PLEASE AKTATTER: JIM PLEASE SIGN IN WITH NAME AND HOMETOWN jlathemtx: Seat belt is on securely. AKTATTER: AND WE WILL DISCUSS A DIAGRAM Rietsurtel: is jim a girl or a boy MousemicW: michele waite mousemicw@yahoo.com oswego,ny AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/shapes/8pt.html MARKEI1234: marti, pocatello, idaho jlathemtx: Jim Lathem, Wills Point, Texas TarStt: and your tray table in the upright position LOL AKTATTER: AND THIS IS THE BURDA RING DISCUSSED I NTHE AFTERNOON CLASS TODAY OnlineHost: We're sorry, we are unable to send your message. Please remove the Web address and try again. jlathemtx: What is LOL? AKTATTER: HEY MARTI WELCOME BACK TarStt: laugh out loud AKTATTER: JIM I THINK THIS IS YOUR FIRST VISIT? jlathemtx: Jim is a 62 year young boy! MARKEI1234: thanks, I thought I would never make it! MousemicW: welcom jim AKTATTER: WOW JIM THAT IS TERRIFIC GLAD TO HAVE YO UWITH US GilmaBSB: welcome Jim AKTATTER: WE HOPE THAT YOU WILL ASK QUESTIONS AND SHARE THOUGHTS AND YOUR OWRK WITH US TarStt: Welcome. AKTATTER: OK LET'S BEGINWITH GINA'S LESSON ON THE FALSE PLAIT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/plaits/gbplaits.html AKTATTER: OVER TO GINA AKTATTER: OK DON'T BE BASHFUL GINA AKTATTER: LOL lillyslip: Well, you start with the 4 shuttles AKTATTER: WELL ALRIGHT!!! AKTATTER: OK 4 SHUTTLES OGOT IT CricketLacer7: CricketLacer7 Jacksonville, Florida lillyslip: each pair CTM - continuously wound thread method TattingBina: Caps please Gina:) lillyslip: AND THEN ATTACH THEM TOGETHER Mm13131: Bina! OnlineHost: cfgtat has left the room. OnlineHost: cfgtat has entered the room. lillyslip: WITH THE WEAVER'S KNOT OR WHATEVER WORKS FOR YOU AKTATTER: CTM = http://members.aol.com/SLWelker/ctm.html lillyslip: DOES EVERYONE KNOW HOW TO MAKE A SPLIT RING MousemicW: how do you make a weavers knot ? AKTATTER: STEP 2 AND 3 EXPLAINSIN MICHELLE MousemicW: now don't lol MousemicW: i'm still young AKTATTER: GIVE IT A TRY AN DYOU WILL FEEL THE POP IN THE THREAD lillyslip: MAKE A SLIPKNOT WITH ONE SET OF SHUTTLES AND PUT THE OTHER SET THROUGH TattingBina: Slip knot and thread the other thread thru the loop and tighten the loop over the other thread until it pops lillyslip: YOU START OUT WITH ONE PAIR OF SHUTTLES AND SET THE SECOND SET OUT OF YOUR WAY lillyslip: DO THE FIRST HALF OF THE SPLIT RING AS YOU NORMALLY DO AKTATTER: SPLIT RING HOW 2 http://members.aol.com/SLWelker/splitrng.html lillyslip: IN THE EXAMPLE, I DID 8 DS AKTATTER: MORE SPLIT RING DIRECTIONS = http://www.picotnet.com/TatOnline/spring_instruction.htm lillyslip: THERE IS A BEAD THERE IN THE RING TOO, I FORGOT TO MENTION THAT AKTATTER: BEAD GOES ON EACH RING THREAD??? MousemicW: i was just going to ask that lillyslip: AFTER THE FIRST HALF OF THE SPLIT RING IS DONE, TAKE THE BEAD AND SLIDE IT UP TO THE POINT WHERE YOU WILL BEGIN THE 2ND HALF OF THE SPLIT RING AKTATTER: GMTA MousemicW: :) AKTATTER: BEADED TATTING BASICS = http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2002/beads/beadbasics.html lillyslip: YOU WILL HAVE BEADS ON EACH PAIR OF SHUTTLES BUT ONLY ONE BEAD FOR THE RING YOU ARE CURRENTLY WORKING ON AKTATTER: RIGHT GOT IT THANKS lillyslip: DO THE WRAP FOR THE 2ND HALF OF THE SPLIT RING BUT BEFORE YOU CLOSE THE RING lillyslip: TAKE THE PAIR OF SHUTTLES YOU HAVE NOT BEEN USING AND BRING THEM THROUGH THE RING TO THE FRONT AKTATTER: IT IS IMPORTANT TO NOTE THAT AKTATTER: THE NON WORKING SHUTTLES COME UP THRU THE RING ABOUT TO CLOSE lillyslip: THEN CLOSE YOUR RING AND THE SHUTTLES YOU HAVE BEEN WORKING WITH WILL BE SET ASIDE WHILE YOU START THE NEXT RING AKTATTER: THEY COME FROM THE BACK TO THE FRONT lillyslip: YES AKTATTER: OK Rietsurtel: Is there someone in the chat room that has the name user,,, AKTATTER: USER... NOT THAT I RECOGNIZE RIET lillyslip: YOU MAY NEED TO WATCH AND STRAIGHTEN OUT THE THREADS AND MAKE SURE YOU HAVE THEM STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU START THE NEXT RING. TattingBina: no one on my roomlist by that name Riet Rietsurtel: there is coming up every time a message lillyslip: MAKE SURE YOU HAVE ANOTHER BEAD FOR THE NEXT RING Rietsurtel: ok I will ignore it as I already did lillyslip: WHEN YOU START THE NEXT RING, MAKE SURE YOUR PINCH POINT IS JUST INSIDE THE RING THAT HAS ALREADY BEEN MADE AKTATTER: SO IT IS IMPORTANT TO MAKE SURE THAT EACH PAIR OF SHUTTLES HAS ONE SHUTTLE WITH BEADS WOUND ON lillyslip: THIS KEEPS THEM UP CLOSE AND SNUG AND WILL LOOK MORE UNIFORM. AKTATTER: SO YOUR FINGERS ARE ACTUALLY PINCHING IN THE CENTER OF THE PREVIOUS RING AKTATTER: YOU HOLD THE PREVIOUS WORK LIKE A LITTLE SANDWICH? lillyslip: YES AKTATTER: OK Rietsurtel: It shows itself when you do it lillyslip: ONCE YOU MAKE THE FIRST STITCH, IT WILL STAY AND YOU DON'T HAVE TO WATCH IT lillyslip: YOU CAN ALSO TELL IF IT'S GOING TO BE TOO FAR AWAY FROM THE PREVIOUS RING AT THAT POINT lillyslip: DO THE SAME AS WITH THE PREVIOUS RING, SLIDE THE BEAD UP, MAKE THE 2ND HALF AKTATTER: TOO FAR AWAY WOULD LEAD TO GAPSOSIS! MousemicW: lol Rietsurtel: is that a southeren word aka lillyslip: YES, BUT IF YOU MEASURE YOUR GAPS VERY WELL, YOU COULD GET BY WITH IT. I COULDN'T AKTATTER: WELL WE HATE GAPSOSIS MICHELLE :) LizAndrsn: Shock! Dismay!! TattingBina: LOL Riet MousemicW: i know ak AKTATTER: NO THAT'S A "ak" WORD LOL AKTATTER: GAPSOSIS LOSES RIBBONS lillyslip: AFTER THE 2ND HALF, PULL THE UNUSED SHUTTLES THROUGH BEFORE CLOSING THE RING. Rietsurtel: ok I will put it in my wordbook MARKEI1234: always thought it was gapOHsis AKTATTER: OR MAKES THEM CHANGE COLORS LIKE FROM BLUE TO RED SIGH MousemicW: lol AKTATTER: LOL MARTI GOOD ONE lillyslip: IF YOU FORGET TO PULL THE SHUTTLES THROUGH, YOU CAN OPEN YOUR RING AND DO IT THEN. I FORGOT A FEW TIMES AT FIRST AKTATTER: REOPEN A CLOSED RING AHHHHHHH AKTATTER: SHOCK MousemicW: ak i'll see you all tomarrow night the baby is crying Rietsurtel: yes the same with me AKTATTER: NIGHT MICHELE Rietsurtel: by mouse AKTATTER: IT IS BETTER TO LOOK AND COUNT CAREFULLY THAN TO REOPEN CLOSED RINGS lillyslip: YES AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU ABSOLUTELY HAVE TO... OK Mm13131: They do open ak MousemicW: night all OnlineHost: MousemicW has left the room. Rietsurtel: when you put your shutle through it before closing it is much easier AKTATTER: ANYOTHER TIPS FOR US GINA?? lillyslip: THAT'S BASICALLY ALL THERE IS TO IT. JUST KEEP DOING THE SAME THING FOR THE LENGTH YOU WANT lillyslip: WHEN I DID THE NECKLACE AKTATTER: IS THIS YOUR FIRS TLESSON FOR THE CLASS GINA? lillyslip: I HAD 100 BEADS ON EACH SHUTTLE PAIR MARKEI1234: it really is lovely, Gina AKTATTER: 100 ! Rietsurtel: you can play with it Gina in all kind of ways lillyslip: YES, IT IS GEORGIA TattingBina: Mimi dont you have the Weaver's Knot pictured on your site? AKTATTER: WELL YOU HAVE DONE A WONDERFUL JOB OF IT AKTATTER: YOURBUTTERFLY SLIDE IS EXCELLENT Clunymimi: I can find a drawing - it's from the old Arachne faq. BRB AKTATTER: AND YOUR STEP BY STEP LAYOUT OF PHOTOS AKTATTER: IS TRULY HELPFUL Dntats4u: Good lesson, Gina TattingBina: Excellent Gina LizAndrsn: Brilliant! Rietsurtel: did you all see her other things about this on her bloc lillyslip: AND I PUT 50 ON EACH SHUTTLE BECAUSE THE ONE THAT DOES THE 1ST HALF OF THE SPLIT RING USES THREAD FASTER AND IT SAVED ME RETHREADING BEADS AKTATTER: THAT BUTTERFLY WAS ADAPTED FROM AN ANTIQWUE PATTERN I RECALL? Mm13131: Thanks, Gina AKTATTER: OH THAT IS A GREAT TIP AKTATTER: SHOELACE TRICK? lillyslip: YES, DEC 1915 NEEDLECRAFT MARKEI1234: I want to use my mother's old pearls to make this ... good idea? lillyslip: YES, THE SHOELACE TRICK AT THE BACK AND YOU NEVER NOTICE IT ALL AKTATTER: SLT = http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes2001/fall2001/shoelace.html AKTATTER: OLD PEARLS?? WOW THAT WOULD BE FANTASTIC lillyslip: ARE THEY TINY PEARLS? AKTATTER: BUT IF YOU ARE WORKING WITH REAL GEMS AND STONES ETC TattingBina: Yes Marti, I also got some fresh water pearls recently this would be great for Clunymimi: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Fields/1404/weavknot.gif Rietsurtel: gems??? LizAndrsn: Other than a necklace lenght, what else would you use this for? Clunymimi: Authored by Joan Posener lillyslip: GIVE IT A TRY AND SEE HOW IT LOOKS TattingBina: thanks Mimi AKTATTER: NINA LIBIN HAS THE MOST EXPERIENCE WITH PRECIOUS AND SEMI PRECIOUS STONES MARKEI1234: Kind of tiny pearls AKTATTER: THANKS MIMI AKTATTER: PURSE CORD lillyslip: I THINK THIS WOULD MAKE A MORE SUBSTANTIAL CORD FOR A BIGGER TATTED BAG, OR A BASKET AKTATTER: HANGER FOR CHRISTMAS STOCKING lillyslip: TRIM ON CLOTHING AKTATTER: CHRISTMAS WREATH Clunymimi: Hanger for your badge at work! lillyslip: YES, IT CURVES NICELY Rietsurtel: for your glasses AKTATTER: BATTENBURG TAPE LACE SUBSITUTE AKTATTER: CHATELAINE AKTATTER: ANY MORE QUESTIONS FOR GINA?? MARKEI1234: oh, you guys are awesome!! so many ideas!! lillyslip: WITH PICOTS ON THE SIDE, YOU COULD ATTACH SEVERAL STRIPS AND HAVE A MAT AKTATTER: OHH NET ONE AKTATTER: UH NO PUN INTENDED THAT WAS A TYPO Rietsurtel: with big thread it will become a carpet AKTATTER: NEAT ONE LOL lillyslip: lol! AKTATTER: BEDSPREAD...ER NO, THAT'S OVERDOING IT AKTATTER: GINA THIS WAS GREAT WORK AKTATTER: THANKS SO MUCH FOR SHARING THIS WITH THE CLASS LizAndrsn: Gee - maybe just a litle -- hehe lillyslip: IT WAS FUN TattingBina: Or even allow the direction of the strip to change creating a pattern using the picot to join AKTATTER: /\/\/\/\/\ APPLAUSE FOR GINA TattingBina: like and snaking of the strip lillyslip: :-) Clunymimi: Thank you Gina! Rietsurtel: I thought you didn't see it but Gina has on her site a lot of this kind of thjings TarStt: Thanks Gina! LizAndrsn: oxox Gina Mm13131: Thanks, Gina jlathemtx: MY MATERNAL GRANDFATER WAS A TATTER. HE SHOWED ME HOW TO TATT WITH A SEWING NEEDLE. THAT WAS A LONG TIME AGO. I JUST PURCHASED A NEEDLE TATTING BOOK BY BARBARA FOWLER, PAXTON, ILLINOIS. TamTats: way to go TattingBina: great lesson Gina AKTATTER: YES GINA TYPE YOUR URL AGAINPLEASE MARKEI1234: thanks much AKTATTER: BARBARA FOSTER PUBLISHES LOTS OF TATTING BOOKS THESE DAYS lillyslip: http://threadsofatattinggoddess.blogspot.com/ jlathemtx: QUESTION: WHAT IS A GOOD SHUTTLE STEP BY STEP BOOK? AKTATTER: AND SHE AHS APPEARED ON SEVERAL EPISODES OF CAROL DUVALL SHOW AKTATTER: THANKS GINA AKTATTER: WE ALSO DO NEEDLE TATTING JIM TarStt: Try Rebecca Jones' Complete Guide to Tatting Jim. lillyslip: You're welcome TattingBina: By the way there is a new needle craft show coming out AKTATTER: WE SHOULD ALL LEARN IT AND DO EVENTUALLY TattingBina: called Knitty Gritty AKTATTER: WHERE BINA? jlathemtx: THANKS FOR INFO. GilmaBSB: thanks Gina, wonderfull work and great class TarStt: It has graphics for needle tatting and shuttle tatting. TattingBina: they aredoing a casting call AKTATTER: THAT IS NEAT ABOUT YOUR GRAND DAD JIM DO YOU HAVE ANY SAMPLES OF HIS WORK STILL? LizAndrsn: knitting - casting.Too punny AKTATTER: LOL jlathemtx: NO, I DO NOT. MY COUSIN DOES AND I HOPE TO GET AT LEAST ONE. AKTATTER: OK LET'S LOOK AT IRIS NIEBACH WORK AKTATTER: HOPES SO TOO JIM LET ME KNOW IF YOU DO I HAVE A BOOK IN PROGRESS WITH A VOLUME ON GENTLEMAN TATTERS AKTATTER: http://www.iristatting.com/files/free_patt_download.jpg AKTATTER: this was the white edged mat shraed with the class this wrrk AKTATTER: week AKTATTER: IT IS A TRADITIONAL RING CHAIN REPEAT BUT PLEASE LOOK AKTATTER: AT THE CORNERS AKTATTER: SHE TURNED THE 90 DEGREE ANGLE AKTATTER: BY LEAVING OUT A CHAIN/RING SEGMENT GilmaBSB: is the nr ##3? AKTATTER: AND MAKING THE NEXT MOTIF START AKTATTER: LIKE A MIRROR IMAGE AKTATTER: #1 I THINK IT WAS GILMA GilmaBSB: ok AKTATTER: VERY NEATLY DONE I THINK AKTATTER: NOW LOOK AT THE SECOND FREE PATTERN AKTATTER: http://www.iristatting.com/files/FREE_PATT_COMPL_2W_B_COPIA.JPG AKTATTER: this has a 6 pt motif AKTATTER: the three motifs joined together is nicely done segment OnlineHost: Rietsurtel has left the room. AKTATTER: but I DRAW YOUR ATTENTION TO THE LITTLE RINGS TarStt: I'm not getting the pattern to come up. AKTATTER: THESE RINGS ARE THROWN OFF THE CHAIN AKTATTER: GO TO HER MAIN PAGE Mm13131: no pattern AKTATTER: WWW.IRISTATTING.COM Clunymimi: http://www.iristatting.com/FREEPATT2.html AKTATTER: AND CLICK YOUR WAY IN TO THE FREE PAGES MIGHT BE A TRAFFIC JAM JUST NOW TarStt: Thanks. AKTATTER: THIS IS A GOOD PRACTICE PIECE USING 2 SHUTTLES AND FLOATING RINGS AKTATTER: AND LAST PATTERN AKTATTER: http://www.iristatting.com/centrino-8-web-DWLD.jpg AKTATTER: THIS DOILY SHOWS ONLY AS A PHOTO IN MY COPY HOPE THAT THE AKTATTER: DIAGRAM IS ADDED LATER MARKEI1234: oh, crum, is this the doily or the butterfly? AKTATTER: DOILY AKTATTER: THIS WAS A NEAT USE OF THE TRADITIONAL HEN AND CHICKS PATTERN AKTATTER: BUT IN PARTICULAR NOTE AKTATTER: THE USE OFNEGATIVE SPACE ON THE INSIDE AREA AKTATTER: NICELY DONE AKTATTER: OK NEXT AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/burdacapturedring.jpg AKTATTER: THAT IS THE PHOTO UNABASHEDLY STOLEN FROM AN OLDER BURDA TATTING BOOK AKTATTER: IT ILLUSTRATES THE ALLIGATOR JOIN SPOKEN ABOUT IN CLASS EARLIER THIS FALL AKTATTER: IT IS NOT REALLY A JOIN AT ALL AKTATTER: BUT ONE TATTED ELEMENT CAPTURED BY ANOTHER AKTATTER: THIS IS THE ESSENCE OF NINA LIBINS WRAP JOIN OnlineHost: Rietsurtel has entered the room. AKTATTER: IMAGINE THE JOWS OF TH ALLIGATOR AKTATTER: OPENS WIDE AKTATTER: THE PREVIOUSLY TATTED WORK IS INSERTED AKTATTER: AND THE JAWS SNAP SHUT AKTATTER: THE TWO WORKING HTREAD THEN MAKE THE NEXT DS AKTATTER: EXTRASNUG AND YOU CONTINUE TATTING Clunymimi: Sounds like a variation on the wrap join to me. OnlineHost: MARKEI1234 has left the room. AKTATTER: RIGHT MIMI AKTATTER: OK KEEPING THAT ALLIGATOR THING INMIND Rietsurtel: please aka which part of the lesson i was out AKTATTER: I NEED SOME HELP MAKING THIS DIAGRAM INTO A WORKING MODEL AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/burdacapturedring.jpg AKTATTER: AND NEXT WE DO AKTATTER: http://www.georgiaseitz.com/2004/shapes/8pt.html jlathemtx: how do you keep your picots the same size? AKTATTER: THE QUADRANT LINES ON THE DIAGRAM ARE JUST AN AID TO PLACEMENT AKTATTER: YOU CAN USE A PICOT GAUGE JIM AKTATTER: OR MEASURE THEM AKTATTER: FOR IMPORTANT WORK USE THE GAUGES Clunymimi: Diagram for Iris' hens-n-chicks doily: http://www.iristatting.com/FREE-PATT-3.jpg LizAndrsn: Where did this design come from? AKTATTER: OR YOU COULD GET A TATTOO of one inch marks on your finger like carolyn did lol Clunymimi: And one other free pattern from Iris with dimpled rings! Clunymimi: http://www.iristatting.com/FREEPATT-HEART4.html AKTATTER: WHERE LIZ? OUT OF THE DUNGEON OF MY MIND AGAIN, I WAS INSPIRED BY A PIECE OF JEWELRY I ADMIRED AKTATTER: THANKS MIMI LizAndrsn: LOL TarStt: Jim picots can be made the same size with the help of a picot guage. AKTATTER: THAT IRIS MUST HAVE BEEN BUSY TODAY REVAMPING HER WEBSITE :) Clunymimi: Yep, I was surprised to find the diagram of the doily, had mourned it's absence before. AKTATTER: use of picot gauges = http://www.georgiaseitz.com/classes/pgminidoilyexercise.html AKTATTER: OH A4TH ONE! lillyslip: yes, I liked that doily too. A perfect one for framing. OnlineHost: MARKEI1234 has entered the room. lillyslip: I've had the heart too and no time to do it yet. AKTATTER: OK ON THE 8 PT DOAGRAM AKTATTER: IF ANYONE IS INSPIRED TO MAKE IT LET ME KNOW AKTATTER: THERE ARE MANY OPTIONS AVAILABLE FOR DOING IT OnlineHost: TamTats has left the room. AKTATTER: AND IT HAS THE POTENTIAL TO USE MANY OF THE TECHNIQUES STUDIED IN THE LAST FEW WEEKS AKTATTER: OK LAST CALL FOR QUESTIONS?? jlathemtx: Thanks to everyone that replied to my question. AKTATTER: AGAIN MANY THANKS TO GINA FOR HER LESSON AKTATTER: AND TO IRIS FOR SHARING HER WORK ONLINE TOO MARKEI1234: couldn't find my papers and when I went to the site, my entire computer shut off. Won't do that again. Now I am way behind AKTATTER: JIM WE ARE ALWAYS GLAD TO HELP AKTATTER: THIS LESSON REPEATS IN THE INTERNATIONAL CLASSROOM TOMORROW (mONDAY ) NIGHT AKTATTER: 8:30pm et (nEW yORK TIME) OnlineHost: cfgtat has left the room. LizAndrsn: Fabulous class tonight - lots of possibilities AKTATTER: THE MONDAY 3 PM ET CLASS WAS MOVED TO EARLIER TO DAY AKTATTER: GOT DRS APPT TOMORROW BUT WILLBEBACK INTIME FOR CLASS LizAndrsn: Goodnight all AKTATTER: THANKS LIZ HOPE YOUARE INSPIRED :) AKTATTER: NIGHTERS OnlineHost: LizAndrsn has left the room. TarStt: Good night all. Mm13131: ginaBea how do these classes keep so interesting? MARKEI1234: good testing, Georgia. nite, nite AKTATTER: :) GAYL 101: goodnight and thanks lillyslip: good night all OnlineHost: TarStt has left the room. AKTATTER: THE LOG WILL BE POSTED SHORTLY OnlineHost: MARKEI1234 has left the room. AKTATTER: THANKS TO ALL FOR STOPPING BY OnlineHost: lillyslip has left the room. Dntats4u: Good night, good lesson, thanks GilmaBSB: The tat world is allways interesting Jim jeanies202: Good class. Thanks to all and Good night Mm13131: Trey sends hugs AKTATTER: GOOD NIGHT AND HAPPY TATTING